1
00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,200
Speaker 1: If you can succeed in sports them. When I say succeed,

2
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,080
Speaker 1: they don't mean just perform thoughtfully and score a lot

3
00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,840
Speaker 1: of points. I mean if you can succeed as a

4
00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,479
Speaker 1: teammate and you're going to figure out how to be

5
00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,160
Speaker 1: a good teammate in the workplace, you can succeed.

6
00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,200
Speaker 2: Pick somebody up when they're down.

7
00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,360
Speaker 1: You're going to probably succeed better as a father when

8
00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,919
Speaker 1: you've got to pick your kid up. So you know,

9
00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,520
Speaker 1: these lessons are really critical because I think they're really

10
00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,959
Speaker 1: ironed out and even full display in sports.

11
00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,200
Speaker 3: This is the Reform Sports Project.

12
00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,760
Speaker 4: I'll podcast about restoring healthy balance and perspective in all

13
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,400
Speaker 4: areas of sports through education and advocacy. Hi, this is

14
00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,879
Speaker 4: Nick Bonacor from the Reform Sports Podcast. Today, I'm speaking

15
00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,960
Speaker 4: with Adam Newman, the chief of Staff and Special Advisor

16
00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,360
Speaker 4: to the President from the Baltimore Ravens. Prior to joining

17
00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,040
Speaker 4: the Ravens in twenty twenty three, Newman served as the

18
00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,680
Speaker 4: chief of Staff for Strategy and Operations and Deputy council

19
00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,560
Speaker 4: for the Big Ten Conference. Adam and I discuss his

20
00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,800
Speaker 4: career path, the important lessons you learn from sports, and

21
00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,800
Speaker 4: how to instill better values in youth.

22
00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,480
Speaker 3: That got a freaking awesome guest.

23
00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,800
Speaker 4: Chief of Staff, Special Advisor to the President of the

24
00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,039
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens, Adam Newman. Adam Man, great to connect. Thanks

25
00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,720
Speaker 4: for coming on, bro.

26
00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,160
Speaker 2: Thank you brother. It's good to be here and always

27
00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,119
Speaker 2: great to talk to friends.

28
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,679
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate you Man, I love your energy. Hey,

29
00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,760
Speaker 4: oh new gig. You were with the Big Ten, I

30
00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,559
Speaker 4: mean real quick for the audience, I mean, you got

31
00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,480
Speaker 4: this wonderful new gig. You're from Maryland, all this going on,

32
00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,679
Speaker 4: Can you give us a background as to how the

33
00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,280
Speaker 4: hell you ended up you know with the Ravens in

34
00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,280
Speaker 4: the world you were in now your previous background with

35
00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,480
Speaker 4: in the Big Ten and kind of what got you here?

36
00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, life is about relationships, and

37
00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,679
Speaker 1: it's about really giving it your all and doing the

38
00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,480
Speaker 1: right thing. And that's sort of I think been the

39
00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,959
Speaker 1: story of my career. You know, I'm a lifelong of

40
00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,600
Speaker 1: Baltimorean at heart. My grandfather was the longest working employee

41
00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,880
Speaker 1: ever in the history of the state of Maryland, for

42
00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,760
Speaker 1: over sixty years working bridges, graduating at Johns Hopkins at

43
00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,800
Speaker 1: like age twenty back when that was possible and then

44
00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,400
Speaker 1: sort of grinded through that and just stayed in that.

45
00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,960
Speaker 2: Job and did great work for the state of Maryland.

46
00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,400
Speaker 1: And that's always been in my blood, always a lifelong

47
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,280
Speaker 1: MEMORIALS Ravens fan. My parents are University of Maryland, the Lums,

48
00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,520
Speaker 1: and always felt close to that connection to that school,

49
00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,200
Speaker 1: and sports was just really big in my family. And

50
00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,440
Speaker 1: I certainly was not athletically gifted enough to pursue any

51
00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,480
Speaker 1: sort of career in athletics, but I always wanted to

52
00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,000
Speaker 1: be near athletics, and I believe that sports was a

53
00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,840
Speaker 1: reminder that people could be bigger than themselves, and I

54
00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,840
Speaker 1: think nowadays you really need that reminder. It's a permission

55
00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,320
Speaker 1: to dream.

56
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,800
Speaker 2: That's what sports really is.

57
00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,160
Speaker 1: It shows you that you can reach deeper, too, and

58
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to be around that. I wanted to touch that.

59
00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,079
Speaker 2: And I was.

60
00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,639
Speaker 1: Blessed to serve as a legal intern for the Minnesota

61
00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,520
Speaker 1: Vikings and worked my butt off and established a close

62
00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,520
Speaker 1: relationship with then chief operating officer Kevin Warren, who ended

63
00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,360
Speaker 1: up becoming the commissioner of the Big Ten Conference. And

64
00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,760
Speaker 1: at the time I was working as a lawyer at

65
00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,359
Speaker 1: Simpson Thatcher and Capital Markets.

66
00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,440
Speaker 2: When you made the call to me.

67
00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,600
Speaker 1: And it even started prior to that. When I was

68
00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,280
Speaker 1: at Yeshiva University as an undergrad. I was making twenty

69
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,800
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a year as a fellow, and they

70
00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,400
Speaker 1: allowed me to sit in some of the board meetings,

71
00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,480
Speaker 1: and that's a credit to the president of the university.

72
00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,080
Speaker 1: But that's where I met mister Mark Wilf, who owned

73
00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,920
Speaker 1: the Vikings and connected me to mister Kevin Warren at

74
00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,040
Speaker 1: the time, and worked really hard as a legal intern.

75
00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,200
Speaker 1: Kind of always wanted to be that sticky note if

76
00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Warren ever, moved from the Vikings and said hey,

77
00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,120
Speaker 1: I need somebody to help, and that's sort of what happened,

78
00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,919
Speaker 1: and he left to be the commissioner of the Big Ten,

79
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,200
Speaker 1: which you might remember was a surprise to a lot

80
00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,960
Speaker 1: of folks. I think other folks with more collegiate experience,

81
00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,119
Speaker 1: I think we're sort of the front runners. But Kevin

82
00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,440
Speaker 1: blew them away, which is not surprising, and met with

83
00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,520
Speaker 1: those presidents and chancellors and did incredible work at the

84
00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,960
Speaker 1: Big Ten conference over the last four years and now

85
00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 1: finds himself as the president of the Chicago Bears. When

86
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,240
Speaker 1: he decided to move I kind of thought, I really

87
00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,760
Speaker 1: want to break back into professional sports. And this opportunity

88
00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,600
Speaker 1: came thanks to president Sashi Brown and Eric Tacosta and

89
00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,560
Speaker 1: incredible owner Steve Bushatti, and the opportunity to return home

90
00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,240
Speaker 1: where I had of you know, three grandparents living, including

91
00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,280
Speaker 1: my grandfather who I mentioned, two brothers, my broth, both

92
00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,760
Speaker 1: my brothers who I love dearly.

93
00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,320
Speaker 2: And their kids, six nieces and nephews, both my parents.

94
00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Tons of friends and family and of course a grade

95
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,680
Speaker 1: seven to eleven that I've been patronizing for for many years.

96
00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,760
Speaker 2: It's just an incredible opportunity to be back. Man.

97
00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,880
Speaker 4: I love it, dude, love your energy, and I love

98
00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,440
Speaker 4: how you brought up the word relationships, because I mean,

99
00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,160
Speaker 4: that's something we talk about a lot, and quite frankly,

100
00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,760
Speaker 4: I'm always someone speaking a lot about the doors that

101
00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,200
Speaker 4: can open as a result of sport participation. And you know,

102
00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,120
Speaker 4: nowadays it seems like and I don't want to just

103
00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,120
Speaker 4: say nowadays, because I mean kids dream. I love how

104
00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,200
Speaker 4: you said that too. Sports gives you the opportunity to dream.

105
00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,719
Speaker 4: But let's face it, not everyone can plain in the

106
00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,720
Speaker 4: Big Ten. Certainly, not everyone can play in the NFL. Hell,

107
00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,520
Speaker 4: not even kids can be Division three athletes like I was,

108
00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,480
Speaker 4: you know, or you know, junior college like you know.

109
00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,040
Speaker 4: Sports ends at the highly competitive levels for everybody at

110
00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,520
Speaker 4: some point. The question is when the doesn't mean you

111
00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,960
Speaker 4: can't take that experience and find a path in sports

112
00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,880
Speaker 4: or in anything, and you leverage those relationships to help

113
00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,720
Speaker 4: you find your passion your career in whatever space that is.

114
00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,159
Speaker 3: So you know, what is it about.

115
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,560
Speaker 4: Your experience growing up that made you find your passion

116
00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,840
Speaker 4: in sports and helped you propel to get to where

117
00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,320
Speaker 4: you are now?

118
00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

119
00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,440
Speaker 1: I think it's really the lessons you learn in sports, right,

120
00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,279
Speaker 1: I mean I was always part of organized sports.

121
00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,000
Speaker 2: I can't.

122
00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't think I have a memory of childhood not

123
00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,559
Speaker 1: doing something, whether it was a Jewish community center soccer league,

124
00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,000
Speaker 1: or playing volleyball or newcom during Color War, if that's

125
00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,680
Speaker 1: still a sport.

126
00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,120
Speaker 2: If it is a sport, I apologize. I just don't know, you.

127
00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,800
Speaker 1: Know, playing flag football, tackle football, basketball tennants. Again I

128
00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,440
Speaker 1: say playing loosely. Please please don't think of me as

129
00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,040
Speaker 1: some gazelle running down the field.

130
00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:49,800
Speaker 2: That's not what it was.

131
00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,880
Speaker 1: But just you learn so much playing sports. You learn

132
00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,240
Speaker 1: how to win. What that means, you learn how to

133
00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,400
Speaker 1: be gracious, You learn how to pick up your teammates,

134
00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,800
Speaker 1: You learn how to control your fire and your anger

135
00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,560
Speaker 1: and your passion.

136
00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,880
Speaker 2: You learn how to get better.

137
00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,840
Speaker 1: Right, you start saying to yourself, you know what I

138
00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,960
Speaker 1: want to I want to start dribbling better. So next

139
00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,960
Speaker 1: thing you know, you're watching the television at nine o'clock

140
00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,640
Speaker 1: at night and you got two basketballs and you're just

141
00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,040
Speaker 1: dribbling them as much as you can. So it feels

142
00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,920
Speaker 1: like it's like on a string for a certain point.

143
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,599
Speaker 1: I remember when I started growing and my father wanted

144
00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,440
Speaker 1: to change my jump shot because I was shooting from

145
00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,359
Speaker 1: the waist and I needed to elevate that more, you know,

146
00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,159
Speaker 1: to a more professional jump shot. And I remember the

147
00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,840
Speaker 1: hours I spent perfecting that and getting better and you know,

148
00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760
Speaker 1: becoming a better three point shooter. So there's just so

149
00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,040
Speaker 1: many pieces of life that when I look at it,

150
00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,280
Speaker 1: I say, well, when's that time that I really remember feeling.

151
00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,560
Speaker 2: Out of gas or pushing a little harder than I

152
00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,520
Speaker 2: thought I could.

153
00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,400
Speaker 1: Or picking up a teammate, or any of these type

154
00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,479
Speaker 1: of examples that folks have in sports. And I think

155
00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,840
Speaker 1: that's what makes it so powerful, and that's what made

156
00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,280
Speaker 1: me want to be around it, and having that is

157
00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,159
Speaker 1: the baseline for your subject matter every day. It's just

158
00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,440
Speaker 1: a it's a huge opportunity to put a smile on

159
00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,080
Speaker 1: your face when you wake up because you know that

160
00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,200
Speaker 1: you're working in a where there's growth, where there's potential,

161
00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,680
Speaker 1: where people like I said, or keep on.

162
00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,080
Speaker 4: Dreaming, how do we take because everything you're saying, not

163
00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,520
Speaker 4: only do I agree with. It's one of the reasons

164
00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,680
Speaker 4: I started the Reform Sports Project because it seems like

165
00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,760
Speaker 4: we've lost our way. You know, I know things change

166
00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,640
Speaker 4: with time, there's adaptation, things evolve. Sports has evolved, The

167
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,280
Speaker 4: industry has evolved quite frankly, Adam. It's very infrequent now

168
00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400
Speaker 4: where kids are playing different sports in different seasons. Every

169
00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,000
Speaker 4: single sport is year round. It's very unique to have

170
00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,360
Speaker 4: strong local community leagues like recreation sports. Everything is travel

171
00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,360
Speaker 4: which is great. There's a lot of advantages and things

172
00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280
Speaker 4: that come with that. But as someone who is working

173
00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,600
Speaker 4: and I mean, let's face it, the premiere, you know

174
00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880
Speaker 4: how many kids aspire to go play in the Big ten, right,

175
00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,800
Speaker 4: the Big ten, the SEC, the ACC the Pack, to

176
00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,960
Speaker 4: all these major power five quote unquote conferences. Even though

177
00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,040
Speaker 4: there's conference realignment all the time. You know, there's a

178
00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,960
Speaker 4: tricka down effect.

179
00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,160
Speaker 3: Right.

180
00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,200
Speaker 4: Kids want to go play at Ohio State, they want

181
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,920
Speaker 4: to go play at you know, whatever the hell it is,

182
00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,960
Speaker 4: you know, at Clemson. You know, I know it's the ACC,

183
00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,720
Speaker 4: but they want to go play Michigan. They want to

184
00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,120
Speaker 4: go play at these big time power schools. They see

185
00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,080
Speaker 4: kids now getting nil money and that's now happening even

186
00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,760
Speaker 4: in high school ranks. You know, what is the impact

187
00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,360
Speaker 4: that you think has transpired with the changes that you're seeing,

188
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,920
Speaker 4: particularly at the Big ten or in these major power conferences.

189
00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,280
Speaker 4: How do you think that maybe impacting youth sports?

190
00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:20,520
Speaker 2: Right?

191
00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,880
Speaker 4: Because it's costing so much money, there's so much more

192
00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,400
Speaker 4: of a chase to to go D one and play

193
00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,320
Speaker 4: at this level, and the pressure, pressure, pressure, you know,

194
00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,760
Speaker 4: is there anything that you've seen that as that has

195
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,559
Speaker 4: negatively come as a result of the big shining star

196
00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,640
Speaker 4: that's on major college sports.

197
00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:37,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

198
00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,959
Speaker 1: I think anytime the emphasis is money and something as

199
00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,720
Speaker 1: pure as what sports should be at its fundamental piece,

200
00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,720
Speaker 1: I think you lose something. So the more that that

201
00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,720
Speaker 1: trickles down to even like you said, like the junior

202
00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,760
Speaker 1: ranks and everything becomes about you know, winning and losing

203
00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,280
Speaker 1: and growing.

204
00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,360
Speaker 2: I think you really you.

205
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,360
Speaker 1: Lose some of the purity of the sport, and you

206
00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,199
Speaker 1: lose some of the love of the sport, of why

207
00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,880
Speaker 1: people seek to be great. I mean you brought up

208
00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,880
Speaker 1: travel teams. I'll be totally frank with you. My nephew's

209
00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,000
Speaker 1: on a travel baseball team. I love him to death.

210
00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,840
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, he would not have been

211
00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,920
Speaker 1: on a travel team. There's just no way in hell.

212
00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,160
Speaker 1: Travel was reserved for almost really elite players. And I

213
00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,840
Speaker 1: think the marketing now is so funny, like everyone's on

214
00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,480
Speaker 1: the travel team almost because that's what's so.

215
00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 2: Important, is winning.

216
00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,160
Speaker 1: And I'll be completely straight with you, I could not believe.

217
00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,599
Speaker 1: I was at one of his games and each of

218
00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,160
Speaker 1: the players had warm up music, like walking up to

219
00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,079
Speaker 1: warm up music.

220
00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,840
Speaker 2: And I was I turned to my brother, I said, dude,

221
00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,360
Speaker 2: this is wrong.

222
00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:33,640
Speaker 3: Man.

223
00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, you're not seeing it. And I'm

224
00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,200
Speaker 1: telling you there's something that's rubbing me the wrong way

225
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,679
Speaker 1: about this. Like I used to play basketball with shirts

226
00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,600
Speaker 1: and skins, and forgive me if that's inappropriate on this podcast, but.

227
00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,719
Speaker 2: That's the way we played at Towson basketball camp. That's

228
00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,080
Speaker 2: how we played at Loyo with Maryland Basketball.

229
00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,520
Speaker 1: Camp and my mom picked me up from camp and

230
00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,320
Speaker 1: I was excited to be there, and I was sweating

231
00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,040
Speaker 1: through the roof in June in Baltimore, and it just

232
00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,040
Speaker 1: isn't that way anymore.

233
00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,120
Speaker 2: And I think that if you destroy act folks from the.

234
00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,440
Speaker 1: Beauty of the game of just playing for the sake

235
00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,040
Speaker 1: of playing, I think it does detract from some of

236
00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,679
Speaker 1: these lessons and what's important. So you know, to your point,

237
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,520
Speaker 1: you look at even at the college ranks when you

238
00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,760
Speaker 1: think about nil and the transfer portal, allowing folks to

239
00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,120
Speaker 1: just kind of move around as quickly as possible, and

240
00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,040
Speaker 1: in some ways some would say, you know, avoiding certain

241
00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,760
Speaker 1: commitments or moving around. And I'm not sure that all

242
00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,600
Speaker 1: these rules are going to be solved in one day,

243
00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure all the fixes and the band

244
00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,960
Speaker 1: aids are worthwhile. So I think to your point, we

245
00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,880
Speaker 1: have to just keep reemphasizing that sports for sports, and

246
00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,280
Speaker 1: if that ends up being Division one in the NFL and.

247
00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,800
Speaker 2: All those great things, that's terrific.

248
00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,840
Speaker 1: But sports are for everyone, man. I mean, sports are

249
00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,640
Speaker 1: not just for the one percent. And I mean, dude,

250
00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,160
Speaker 1: it's really the one percent the NCAA has a great

251
00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,240
Speaker 1: commercial that you know, ninety nine percent of student athletes

252
00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,000
Speaker 1: do not become professional athletes. So and I like to add,

253
00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,120
Speaker 1: and by the way of that one percent, I mean

254
00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,640
Speaker 1: only like point zero zero zero one percent are going

255
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,600
Speaker 1: to the NFL and the NBA.

256
00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,920
Speaker 2: Some of those other folks are going, you know, two.

257
00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,160
Speaker 1: Different countries, and not all of those are great for

258
00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,400
Speaker 1: their families, and not all of those provide great salaries.

259
00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,880
Speaker 1: So and we talk about the folks that are actually

260
00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,640
Speaker 1: making money. And then once you're in the NFL, I

261
00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,240
Speaker 1: don't need to tell you the statistics. I mean, what's

262
00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,160
Speaker 1: the average you're in the NFL for for a few

263
00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,600
Speaker 1: years and then you're out. I mean, so you really

264
00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,959
Speaker 1: need to prepare kids to say sports is a part

265
00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,520
Speaker 1: of your life, whether it's helping you make money or not.

266
00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,800
Speaker 1: And if we're not doing that, we're doing a real disservice.

267
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more, dude.

268
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,880
Speaker 4: And you know, there was, you know, a recent situation

269
00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,360
Speaker 4: that's been all over the news and it's really you know,

270
00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,280
Speaker 4: and I've been in enough locker rooms to see situations

271
00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000
Speaker 4: like this, but you know what's unfortunately, you know, taking

272
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,600
Speaker 4: place in the media now with with Northwestern, and it's

273
00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,120
Speaker 4: certainly not the only case where you know, hazing has

274
00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,920
Speaker 4: taken on, you know, a life of its own, and

275
00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,439
Speaker 4: it's really detrimental. But you know, bullying, these things are

276
00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,480
Speaker 4: are situations where and I know we're talking about major

277
00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,079
Speaker 4: collegiate sports. Been all over the headlines, you know with Northwestern,

278
00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,760
Speaker 4: but that stuff happens.

279
00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,520
Speaker 3: At all at all ages.

280
00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,360
Speaker 4: And you know, you mentioned being a great teammate earlier, like,

281
00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,360
Speaker 4: how are ways in which parents you know, or at

282
00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,080
Speaker 4: least for instance, when you were in the Big ten

283
00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,120
Speaker 4: or even now in the professional like, like, what are

284
00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,720
Speaker 4: ways in which that I guess as leaders, right, as coaches,

285
00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,679
Speaker 4: as administrators, we can go about trying to put measures

286
00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,200
Speaker 4: in place to prevent these things from happening beforehand, Like

287
00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,680
Speaker 4: what's a way to maybe not allow that particularly. I

288
00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,840
Speaker 4: mean again, people hear these stories and they think it's funny,

289
00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,840
Speaker 4: and you know, and and you know, when you're younger

290
00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,000
Speaker 4: to make fun of kids, you know, kids are it

291
00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,560
Speaker 4: is what it is. I have six of my own

292
00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,960
Speaker 4: and got almighty five of them are boys, and they're

293
00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,600
Speaker 4: all over each other all the time. Right, But there's

294
00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,680
Speaker 4: a line and when do we know when that line

295
00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,280
Speaker 4: is crossed?

296
00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think to begin, I would tell you that

297
00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,680
Speaker 1: I think education starts in the home. You know, so

298
00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,720
Speaker 1: much of how I think folks turn out as a

299
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,680
Speaker 1: result of the folks that they're surrounded with, and primarily

300
00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,040
Speaker 1: that's their siblings and their parents, and their grandparents and

301
00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,880
Speaker 1: their relatives. And they need to be taught what respect

302
00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,240
Speaker 1: looks like at a very very young age, and that

303
00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,880
Speaker 1: respect needs to be closely watched, and it has to

304
00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,760
Speaker 1: be clear that you know, a lot of people speculate

305
00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,280
Speaker 1: and talk about if you want to see how someone

306
00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,440
Speaker 1: really is, like see how they're playing on the basketball court,

307
00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,400
Speaker 1: or see how they're playing on the football field, because

308
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,120
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll see people who are really kind and generous,

309
00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,680
Speaker 1: but then suddenly they're on the field and they're suddenly

310
00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,439
Speaker 1: not violent in a good way. Of course, it's good

311
00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,439
Speaker 1: to be violent and hit people in the proper way.

312
00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, like you're alluding to like

313
00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,160
Speaker 1: being a poor teammate and you know, ranking on your

314
00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,600
Speaker 1: fellow friend and doing things that are sort of crossing

315
00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,800
Speaker 1: that line. And I think, you know, there's no right answer,

316
00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,120
Speaker 1: There is no bright line rule.

317
00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,160
Speaker 2: So I think what you're speaking.

318
00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,640
Speaker 1: About, but I think again, I think it's about educating

319
00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,840
Speaker 1: people on the way they need to behave and the

320
00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,400
Speaker 1: way they need to comport themselves on and off the field.

321
00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,000
Speaker 1: And that's a tall task when emotions are high and

322
00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,680
Speaker 1: sweat is flowing and sometimes blood is flowing too.

323
00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,480
Speaker 2: But it's something we got.

324
00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,360
Speaker 1: To rise up to because, as we're talking about very

325
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,960
Speaker 1: clearly now, and I'm very serious about this, like sports

326
00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,240
Speaker 1: are a metaphor for life, man.

327
00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if you.

328
00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,880
Speaker 1: Can succeed in sports, And when I say succeed, I

329
00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,000
Speaker 1: don't mean just perform thoughtfully and score a lot of points.

330
00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,199
Speaker 1: I mean if you can succeed as a teammate, and

331
00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,559
Speaker 1: you're going to figure out how to be a good

332
00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,719
Speaker 1: teammate in the workplace. In the workforce, if you can

333
00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,760
Speaker 1: succeed you know, to pick somebody up when they're down,

334
00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,920
Speaker 1: you're going to probably succeed better as a father when

335
00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,760
Speaker 1: you got to pick your kid up. So you know,

336
00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,600
Speaker 1: these lessons are really really critical because I think they're

337
00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,720
Speaker 1: really ironed out and are really on full display in sports.

338
00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean, some of my best memories I wasn't even

339
00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,480
Speaker 1: there for they're just watching them on TV.

340
00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god.

341
00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,120
Speaker 1: Like I remember there was a softball player and she

342
00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,360
Speaker 1: I think broke her leg like running through first base,

343
00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120
Speaker 1: and the opposing team like picked her up, carried her

344
00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,200
Speaker 1: and tapped her other foot on each base as she rounded.

345
00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,560
Speaker 2: Second, third, and home and it cost them the game.

346
00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,600
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure had they not picked her up,

347
00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,600
Speaker 2: they would have lost the game. So there were serious consequences.

348
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,360
Speaker 2: But you can't forget a moment like that. You almost

349
00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,160
Speaker 2: feel like it's part of you.

350
00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,800
Speaker 4: When we returned, Adam and I dive into prioritizing lessons

351
00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,000
Speaker 4: over performance when it comes.

352
00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,400
Speaker 3: To youth sports.

353
00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,720
Speaker 4: Where we left off, Adam and I were about to

354
00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,840
Speaker 4: dive into personal responsibility and whose obligation is to instill

355
00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,920
Speaker 4: better values in youth sports. It starts at home, right,

356
00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about accountability, and at least that's

357
00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,720
Speaker 4: what I took away from what you were saying in

358
00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,400
Speaker 4: that very beginning, their accountability.

359
00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,000
Speaker 3: And it's so easy to get lost.

360
00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,160
Speaker 4: I love how you keep bringing it back to extract

361
00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,920
Speaker 4: the lessons, and it's so easy to get lost in

362
00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,840
Speaker 4: the performance. The wins, like if your kids being a

363
00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,760
Speaker 4: clown or not being a good teammate, but yet goes

364
00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,200
Speaker 4: four for four in the baseball game, Like, are we

365
00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,280
Speaker 4: not going to address the fact that your kid was

366
00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,480
Speaker 4: a bad teammate, Like that'd be the first thing that

367
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,880
Speaker 4: I would be correcting. I don't care how well or

368
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,040
Speaker 4: poor my kid performs, that doesn't matter. What matters is

369
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,640
Speaker 4: how they treat other people, Like rather than having a

370
00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,760
Speaker 4: set of glasses on, that's strictly looking at youth sports

371
00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,400
Speaker 4: from a performance person perspective, like they're in professional ranks

372
00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,920
Speaker 4: right when we're all being fans cheering for pro sports, Like,

373
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,400
Speaker 4: let's let's let's separate the fact that these are professional athletes,

374
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,880
Speaker 4: that these are kids. They are learning and like the

375
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,120
Speaker 4: NCAA commercial is ninety nine percent of these kids are

376
00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,000
Speaker 4: going to go professional in something else other than sports,

377
00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,640
Speaker 4: Like let's remember that the things that they learn along

378
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,200
Speaker 4: the way or what are going to serve them through.

379
00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,000
Speaker 4: It's really hard to keep that on the forefront. Are

380
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,280
Speaker 4: there things that are done, you know, in the Big

381
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,080
Speaker 4: Ten or even in you know, professional sports from your

382
00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,880
Speaker 4: standpoint to help people or these athletes or even the parents,

383
00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, like, is there is there education that's

384
00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,320
Speaker 4: done to help people understand being present, putting things in perspective,

385
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,280
Speaker 4: and how to compartmentalize, like, you know, the athletic piece

386
00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,560
Speaker 4: versus the lesson piece.

387
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,280
Speaker 2: I think so for sure. And I think also I'll

388
00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,480
Speaker 2: start even at the youth level.

389
00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,040
Speaker 1: I remember my father coached many of my baseball teams.

390
00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,080
Speaker 1: And again, it's so funny you mentioned this because I

391
00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,520
Speaker 1: would have never thought about this. I don't even know

392
00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,200
Speaker 1: who this person is, but there was this award well

393
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560
Speaker 1: with Little League in Baltimore called the Mitchell David Award.

394
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed to said, I don't know the Mitchell David is.

395
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,760
Speaker 1: I'll have to look it up after this podcast. But

396
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,040
Speaker 1: the Mitchell David Award on our teams was more important

397
00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:10,920
Speaker 1: than who won the MVP.

398
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the Mitchell David Award was like, I.

399
00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,840
Speaker 1: Think, if you want the MVP, you might get like

400
00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,280
Speaker 1: an ice cream call, and if you won the Mitchell

401
00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,960
Speaker 1: David Award, you were like taking out the dinner.

402
00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,360
Speaker 2: And the Mitchell David Award was all about sportsmanship.

403
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,320
Speaker 1: So that's a coach thoughtfully thinking, yeah, it matters that

404
00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:25,600
Speaker 1: we went.

405
00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,959
Speaker 2: Of course, winning is huge, winning, winning is critically important.

406
00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,880
Speaker 2: No one's denying that.

407
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm a fierce competitor, and I firmly believe that.

408
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,640
Speaker 2: But how you are off the court and.

409
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,720
Speaker 1: How you're doing as a teammate and who you're helping

410
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,320
Speaker 1: along the way, and are you cheering on your teammates?

411
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,760
Speaker 1: Are you helping teammates with issues? If a new teammate

412
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,639
Speaker 1: joins your team, are you helping them around? You know,

413
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm a new employee here in Baltimore. You know, there

414
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,359
Speaker 1: are so many people here that are going out of

415
00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,199
Speaker 1: their way to help me do things that are like

416
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,879
Speaker 1: jokes to them, like where are the thumbtachs.

417
00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't know where that is.

418
00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,360
Speaker 1: That's a big deal for someone to show you where

419
00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,040
Speaker 1: that is. You know, that's a Mitchell David type experience.

420
00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,120
Speaker 1: So that's on the youth level. I think what I've

421
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 1: seen in the Big Ten and certainly at the Ravens,

422
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 1: but I'm really new here is I think very similar

423
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,640
Speaker 1: things are valued by the better programs. And I'll say

424
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,719
Speaker 1: that even in the Big Ten, I think the best programs,

425
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,880
Speaker 1: the best football coaches, the best volleyball coaches, best synchronized

426
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,479
Speaker 1: women coaches, they find a way to show value in

427
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,880
Speaker 1: ways other than winning, and show you how to win

428
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,159
Speaker 1: on and off the field.

429
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 2: You know, you see the.

430
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,199
Speaker 1: NFL does that obviously with the Walter Payton Man of

431
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,159
Speaker 1: the Year and how big a deal that is.

432
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,399
Speaker 2: But I think individually with teams.

433
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 1: When there are certain rewards that coordinators give or you know,

434
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,840
Speaker 1: on the business side, if the president or other folks

435
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,160
Speaker 1: on the senior leadership team are awarding folks for performance bonuses,

436
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,800
Speaker 1: but they're not just based on how much revenue you

437
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 1: increased for the team. It's not just how many expenditures

438
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 1: you reduced for the team, but it's actually about other qualities,

439
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 1: like how kind you are to people, how inclusive you

440
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 1: are to others. There are ways to put metrics on

441
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 1: those things, and I would encourage everybody to get in

442
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 1: the business putting metrics and putting winning in the hands

443
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 1: of other qualities, not just the precise way, and not

444
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,680
Speaker 1: to focus on just the narrow bottom line. I think

445
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 1: the more you do that when that's the only goal,

446
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,880
Speaker 1: you find that those teams don't succeed as much.

447
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 4: So it's interesting because you know, more and more youth

448
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 4: sports is really turning into it's the commercialization, it's the

449
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 4: professionalization of youth sports. Like we mentioned the travel sport thing,

450
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 4: and you know, kids are playing seventy five one hundred

451
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 4: baseball games from a spring and summer, traveling over the country,

452
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,360
Speaker 4: getting anil deals really starting to mimic like a college.

453
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 4: You know, we're getting personal trainers, We're taking our kids

454
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 4: to private workouts. We're like I've literally had guests on

455
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 4: that said, yeah, have parents call me and saying, you know,

456
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 4: what's the best way to have my eight year old

457
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 4: train like an eighteen year old? And it's like, you know,

458
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 4: how do I wanted to get a college workout? And

459
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,679
Speaker 4: it's like, well, he's eight, you know, like you're not

460
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 4: supposed to, you know, but that's like what people are chasing.

461
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 4: So it's it's almost hard to separate, especially now as

462
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 4: you're seeing more and more athletes compensated and you know

463
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,640
Speaker 4: they're still working that out right with nil, what's you know.

464
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 3: What's the right way to do what's the wrong way

465
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 3: to do it? You know, how do we do so?

466
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 4: Like do administrators do people in charge at the collegiate

467
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 4: ranks need to of these conferences the NC double A,

468
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 4: Do they need to like come out and like literally

469
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 4: say youth sports are not the same, like cut the

470
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 4: ship part of my language, Like we can't be you know,

471
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 4: can't be trying to mimic what we're doing with it,

472
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 4: you know, young adults versus young children. But like, how

473
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 4: do you get that message across to parents and coaches,

474
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 4: particularly the youth coaches. Who are you know, who are

475
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 4: who running these organizations?

476
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 2: I think it's really hard.

477
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 1: You're talking now about like actual values, and when I

478
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: talk about values and this is just a personal piece,

479
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm like a big personal responsibility person.

480
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: I think that sometimes we think too much.

481
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: We ask for whether it's the government or others to

482
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: dole out legislation or.

483
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: Point out certain things. I don't know that it's on the.

484
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 1: Nc double A or the NFL or any of those

485
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: folks to really you know. I mean, yes, they can.

486
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: They can be influential because they're they're big people and

487
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 1: know they have influence on the world and on the

488
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: world of sports. But I think a lot of it

489
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: is again they hate to take it back, is really

490
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 1: going to be on parents, and on communities and on

491
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: churches and synagogues and other you know, youth establishments and

492
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: other communal folks to get around and say, what are

493
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: the values of our family?

494
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: You know what is the responsibility of our family.

495
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we can just always rely on big

496
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: organizations to kick out policy and say, well, it's up

497
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: to you to really make sure that youth coaches aren't

498
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: as tough or aren't expecting X, Y and Z. I

499
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: think we have to personally decide that this is something

500
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: that we're not going to stand for at this level.

501
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: And that's seven years old.

502
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna, you know, schlet my kid

503
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: to some travel camp because that's the only baseball game

504
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: in town. We have to figure out, you know, another place.

505
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: And if that means playing on a field that doesn't

506
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: have you know, perfect you know, bases everywhere or perfect

507
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: lines and the grass is a neatly cut, that's okay,

508
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: because that was okay twenty years ago, right, that was

509
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: okay fifteen years ago. Now we're talking about how everybody

510
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: in needs jerseys with their name on the back. I mean,

511
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: I can't even and I know it's cheaper to print,

512
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: so I mean, that was another thing I saw on

513
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: my nephew's baseball game. I just couldn't believe it, Like

514
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: they have names on the back of their journeys for

515
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 1: a ten year old playing baseball.

516
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: That's shocking to me. It's just looking at it just

517
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: read to me with warm up.

518
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: Music and names on the back that like, what are

519
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: we really focusing on right now? Doesn't seem to me

520
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: like we're focusing on those right things. But again, I'm

521
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: not gonna blame the league. I'm gonna blame my brother.

522
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell him, heybuddy, like I don't know why

523
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: that's a thing, and I don't think that's gonna set

524
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: the right example on the right message.

525
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: Dude.

526
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 4: I love that answer, Like, stop looking for someone to

527
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 4: guide you, stop looking for big business or big leadership.

528
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: Like it starts in the home. It starts with making

529
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 4: a decision that is far greater than just you know,

530
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 4: the small time frame your kids are playing a sport,

531
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 4: and really look at it from a vantage point of

532
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: how do I want to help shape my child's character?

533
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 4: Like what values do I want to instill in him

534
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: or her? And there's no greater influence than a parent

535
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 4: than a guardian if some sort that's who's around the

536
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: kid to coaches are impactful, but you know, I don't

537
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: know if anyone's is impactful, certainly as as a parent

538
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 4: or guardian so I put putting the onus on on

539
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: that I think is such a valid point, you know,

540
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: because people nowadays it just seems like, man, we want

541
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: to find a scapego want to find a reason why

542
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: things are screwed up, And hey, tell me what when

543
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 4: sometimes we got to look in the mirror and just say,

544
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: we're not gonna deal with this anymore.

545
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna put our foot down.

546
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: We're gonna do what's in the best interests of our

547
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: child in our family, because we know at our core values,

548
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 4: you know what this is all about. And and man,

549
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: I just think that's a great point that we don't

550
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 4: we don't oftentimes do because it's.

551
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: A lot easier to blame other people.

552
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 4: Well tell me this, Adam, what can we expect from

553
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 4: you going forward now with the Ravens.

554
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: What are you going to be doing now on your

555
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: day to day?

556
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: Day to day is really just helping as much as

557
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: I can. You know, I'm new.

558
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: When you're new in a job, I think the most

559
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: important thing you can do is ask questions. I'm going around.

560
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: Meeting as many people as I can, coffees, lunches, whatever

561
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: it is that takes.

562
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: Just asking people what they do and how I can

563
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: help working primarily on the business side, you know, across

564
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: different sectors and assisting the president and you know, all

565
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: the different various industry points that are critical right now

566
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: for the Ravens. And I think ultimately it's a great

567
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: football team and a great football town, a great football organization,

568
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: a great fan base, great pillars. If I say to myself,

569
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: I've always been a Purple fan, and I think historically

570
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: and incredibly consistent organization, two Super Bowl since inception, and

571
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: pretty much always competitive and a very fierce, tough brand

572
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: of football, and anything we can do on the business

573
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: side to you know, help the team succeed, not only

574
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: again as we've been speaking on the field and winning

575
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: games and beating the Steelers and winning the Super Bowl,

576
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: but also in addition to helping the community and giving

577
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: back to the community, you know, making sure Purple Friday

578
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: is special in Baltimore, and ensuring that we're speaking at

579
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: local schools and ensuring that our athletes are you know,

580
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: professionally speaking at different engagements and giving back to the community.

581
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what this town is all about.

582
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: That's what drew me back to this town. And I'm

583
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: just so excited to keep meeting more people and you know,

584
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: helping any way that I can't.

585
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: And so I know you're on social media on Twitter,

586
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: where else can people find connect with you and see

587
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: what you're doing.

588
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: You know, I'm on Twitter at Adam J. Newman and

589
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: other social media. I guess I'm on LinkedIn. Like LinkedIn,

590
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: It's fun to see other people's paths. I always encourage people,

591
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: and people say how to break into sports? I say,

592
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: do There's a free resource. It's called LinkedIn. You literally

593
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: can stalk people and see exactly what they did and

594
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: get where they got, and then you can say to yourself,

595
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: hey maybe I should go to law school, or hey

596
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: maybe I need this master's degree, or hey maybe I

597
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: need this type of experience. So I'm a big LinkedIn

598
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: fan just for you know, connecting with people. So those

599
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: are probably the two primary ones. But I'm always open

600
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: to have a conversation. And I'm not a big sleeper.

601
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: I preach it, but I don't do it. So I'm

602
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: up a lot. So you know, if people shoot me

603
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: at a text or you tweet or anything like that,

604
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm usually down to catch up and you get to

605
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: know people.

606
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 4: Adam Newman I am freaking stoked you came on. I

607
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 4: can't thank enough for sharing. Appreciate the insight, bro. I

608
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: wish you nothing but continued success and really appreciate your

609
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: chiming in here.

610
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, brother.

611
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I hope we get to spend more time together soon

612
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: and you know, break bread and you know, just keep grinding,

613
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: because that's that's.

614
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: Really what it's all about.

615
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Like we said, this is about relationships and just appreciative

616
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: of the opportunity to speak and hang.

617
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: Out a little bit tonight.

618
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 4: That's Adam Newman, chief of staff and Special Advisor to

619
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 4: the President of the Baltimore Ravens. Thanks for listening to

620
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 4: the Reform Sports Podcast. If you've enjoyed this episode, we

621
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 4: would appreciate it if you took a moment to rate

622
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: and review our podcast.

623
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: As we work to grow our community.

624
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: Of supporters and advocates for more reform sports content, please

625
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: subscribe to our newsletter and blog at Reformsports.

626
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: Project dot com. You can also follow

627
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: Us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.