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Speaker 2: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Hotels Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Rod Joint is always on.

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Speaker 4: My cost Kiaren. I was chewing some gum. I took

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Speaker 4: it out because I'm a Negro, so yeah, I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. The official webinar of the show

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Speaker 3: what it is. Y'all were just doing these down and

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Speaker 3: dirty shows, doing them late night this holiday season, so

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Speaker 3: with the flow. We talk about what we want to

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Speaker 3: talk about because nobody can tell us what to do. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's our show, and yeah we don't have a boss,

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Speaker 3: so we are own bosses, so we just talking today.

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Speaker 3: I guess the best thing to do is get into

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Speaker 4: Name regular ass Norman Dude, born ass news. Nothing spectacular news. Hey,

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Speaker 4: just that regular ship, y'all, regular ship, y'all?

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Speaker 3: All right, I'd like that beat. Let's talk about this

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Speaker 3: regular ass news. All right? So what's going on? A

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Speaker 3: mother of a New York City heiress paid a d

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Speaker 3: programmer big bucks after her daughter was quote unquote brain

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Speaker 3: washed by a collegist woke agenda. What yes, yes, you

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Speaker 3: heard me correctly. I think this may have an article

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Speaker 3: on it. Let me see if I could play this

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Speaker 3: article a.

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Speaker 2: Bomb show report on the University Versity of Florida's College

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Speaker 2: of Medicine.

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Speaker 4: It chose the school incorporates critical.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, actually no, this is a Fox News thing

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Speaker 3: saying talking about how woke news is da DA, DA

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Speaker 3: is woke agendas in the colleges are fucking up the kids. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so the article is this New York City pharmaceutical eras

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Speaker 3: Annabelle Rockwell is claiming that her mother paid three hundred

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Speaker 3: dollars a day to a d programmer at the believing

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Speaker 3: her daughter had been brainwashed by attending an all female,

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Speaker 3: elite liberal college that left the young woman totally indoctrinated

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Speaker 3: in the strange from the parents who raised her.

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Speaker 4: What that means. She got out away from y'all, learned

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Speaker 4: some shit and was like, oh, y'all fucked up?

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Speaker 3: How come what parents do? The kids don't count as indoctrination, right?

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Speaker 3: I left school very anxious, very nervous, very depressed and sad,

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Speaker 3: Rockwell told the twenty nine told I guess the New

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Speaker 3: York Post, she's twenty nine. Now. I saw everything through

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Speaker 3: the lens of oppression, bias and victimhood that I came

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Speaker 3: to the school as someone who saw everyone equally. I

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Speaker 3: automatically assuming that all white men were sex as my

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Speaker 3: thoughts were no longer my own. I find this so

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Speaker 3: interesting in that, well, it seems like they's spending us

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Speaker 3: for some type of media thing. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: so neat and clean of just I was a good girl.

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Speaker 3: Then I went to college and the woke liberal indoctrination

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Speaker 3: made me think black lives matter. And thank god my

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Speaker 3: mom was able to deprogram. Y'all don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: an ad for the deprogrammer or what, but the idea

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Speaker 3: your parents. Yes, and that was such a big threat

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Speaker 3: And I think this is one of the reasons I

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Speaker 3: don't do the kids are our future shit, because the

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Speaker 3: kids grow up and the kids need the parents, and

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Speaker 3: these are the parents. And the same way, a lot

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Speaker 3: when it comes to, you know, politics. They can't afford

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Speaker 3: to be out here in the world being like, nah,

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Speaker 3: fuck with my parents saying I'm voting for Democrats and

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Speaker 3: I'm pro LGBTQ. They can't afford it. Their parents not

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Speaker 3: with that shit. And you still want to be in

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Speaker 3: their good graces or you need the money or the

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Speaker 3: room and board. Guess what you're gonna be either quiet

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Speaker 3: or something like this. Woman Rockwell, a former competitive figure

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Speaker 3: skater skater grew up in the Upper East Side, told

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Speaker 3: The Post that at first she was elated to attend

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Speaker 3: Mount Holyoke College, a sixty thousand dollars a year women's

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Speaker 3: institution in Royal Massachusetts, in twenty eleven. Now, why would

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Speaker 3: you think you will go to attend that kind of

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Speaker 3: women's school, for number one, unless it's like religious women's

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Speaker 3: where it's like we're doing this because.

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Speaker 4: The curriculum we are religious. Note you're going to be

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Speaker 4: open to any and everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she did not participate in the MOHA chop and

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Speaker 3: International Initiation RITRO meant to shrug off gender roles by

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Speaker 3: cutting one's hair by her junior year. However, she told

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Speaker 3: the Post she knows a shifting herself. After taking a

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Speaker 3: gender study class, this professor tells me about patriarchy. I

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Speaker 3: barely knew what the word meant. I didn't know what

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Speaker 3: she was talking about. I wasn't someone that into feminism.

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Speaker 3: I just knew that I felt I had always been

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Speaker 3: free to do what I wanted. I never experienced sexism,

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Speaker 3: but I was told that the patriarchy. And you don't

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Speaker 3: even understand it's been working against your whole life. You've

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Speaker 3: been oppressed and you didn't even know it. Now you

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Speaker 3: have to fight it. And I just went down this deep.

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Speaker 4: Rabbit hole because you didn't want to face the reality

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Speaker 4: of what the people were telling you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not saying it's impossible to be affected

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Speaker 3: by like the group think and the group peer pressure

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Speaker 3: that comes with any group dynamic, whether you agree or

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Speaker 3: did disagree with the group. But what I think is

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Speaker 3: funny is the reason I think it sounds like a

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Speaker 3: product she's not even talking about, Like I got on

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Speaker 3: it's and the colleges are such a big boogeyman for

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Speaker 4: Get them on strip education because they feel like, because

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Speaker 4: the studies have shown that you need a dumb workforce.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that to insult workers because I'm

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Speaker 4: a worker two, but you need your workforce dumb down, right,

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Speaker 4: because when your workforce is dumbed down, guess what they'll

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Speaker 4: do with low wages. Guess what they'll do with abuse.

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Speaker 3: And here it is at the end, Rockwell, who now

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Speaker 3: fundraises for their conservative advocacy group Pragger. You said her

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Speaker 3: intention is not to smear other class and ads, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just promotion of Like, listen, if you start to

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Speaker 3: care about anything other than white men, you are part

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Speaker 3: Good greed. White people really be putting this shit in

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Speaker 3: the news like this is good, this is a good story.

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Speaker 3: Everybody should learn from this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's a signal to other white people. Hey, parents,

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Speaker 4: you know, don't don't fear if your child goes out

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden start telling you that you're

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Speaker 4: and shit like that. Basically, you're promoting the program. Here's

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Speaker 4: the program to quote unquote deprogram them, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I still don't see where the like D

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Speaker 3: programmer truly comes in, Like I'm looking to see. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So her mother said that she threw a vase in

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Speaker 3: the window and anger of what a dotor or. In

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Speaker 3: addition to the costly D programmer, she also enlisted the

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Speaker 3: help from her daughter's tennis coach, Scott Williams, but was

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Speaker 3: warned and Mike takes seven years before Annabella will revert

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Speaker 3: to her old ways of thinking. This is the scariest shit, man.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine the pressure of being some little white

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Speaker 3: maybe my parents full of shit. Maybe some much stuff

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Speaker 3: they believe in is actually wrong, going against what they

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Speaker 3: then motherfucker's like, we brought a deep programmer in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the worst thing that could ever happen is

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Speaker 4: you realize that all the things we've been showing you

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Speaker 4: I can't speak for myself for most people, whenever you

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Speaker 4: to process how you were raised. It's just naturally and

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Speaker 4: no parent is perfect. So you'll actually start analyzing things

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Speaker 4: and you'd be like, well, you know, maybe that was

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Speaker 4: But some parents they can't handle that because for some people,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's also just not just college, right like

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Speaker 3: you said, it's leaving the house, yes, seeing other ways

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Speaker 3: just white kids, I mean just any kid. And we

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Speaker 3: always had that, Joko. They get to college and they're

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Speaker 3: the ones who wild out the hardest when their freshmen,

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Speaker 3: cause it's like, I have never been under the I've

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm out here wiling for life. I'm drinking to

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Speaker 3: I think that's they.

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Speaker 4: Don't have boundaries and they don't know their own limits

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Speaker 4: because they never really was raised where they could test

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Speaker 4: them in a safe environment, and you have your parents

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Speaker 4: I can do what I want to do, and you

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Speaker 3: I think also, just on another level, this is a

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Speaker 3: why do white women vote conservatives because people always think

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Speaker 3: they're voting against their self interests. People always say stuff like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Because what voting liberal, voting progressive really means for a

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Speaker 3: In other news, this is some local Charlotte news. A

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Speaker 6: Lucy McDermott, the owner of Stash Charlotte, says she was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and let me know if it does any issue

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Speaker 6: More than one thousand, three hundred dollars to ship a

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Speaker 3: With the holiday's approach, Yes, a thousand, three hundred dollars

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Speaker 4: What happened doing.

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Speaker 2: A lot of us are going to be shipping presents

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Speaker 2: to friends and family. Wbtv's Caroline Hicks on your side,

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Speaker 7: I own a yarn, fabric and sewing machine store in Charlotte.

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Speaker 6: Lucy McDermott ship's inventory frequently, but what happened this time

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Speaker 7: I had received a trunk show from a fabric company.

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Speaker 7: Contained a couple of quilts, some dresses, nothing heavy. Had

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Speaker 7: been to I think two or three other shops prior

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Speaker 6: She thought she did everything right before dropping this box

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Speaker 7: I measured it weighed.

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Speaker 3: For those that don't know camp how far is Gastonia

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Speaker 4: That's right up the street.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's like literally less than twenty thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Max sent it on its way and I thought everything

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Speaker 6: It got there just fine, fine, until it wasn't.

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Speaker 7: So a week later I received an email that said, hey,

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Speaker 7: your shipment was overweight and oversize, and so we've charged

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Speaker 7: you an additional one three hundred and twenty one dollars.

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Speaker 7: And I thought, okay, this is a mistake, right.

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Speaker 6: This is where McDermott says things got complicated.

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Speaker 7: First, I contacted UPS, but they wouldn't talk to me

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Speaker 7: because I went through a secondary shipper called Pirate Ship

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Speaker 3: Now it's the name of the secondary shipment is Pirate Ship.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying it's your fault or that

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Speaker 3: you blame the victim. But Pirate Ship this seemed like

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Speaker 4: The Pirates is back, They're not on there on the

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Speaker 4: seventh seeds no more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like this seemed like, well how powering works, like

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Speaker 3: I got your I got your cargo, made it, you know,

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Speaker 3: it got me booty or whatever. It just seemed like

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Speaker 4: A lot of people probably use third party ship like this.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't I honestly don't know. I've

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Speaker 3: never I've never used a shipping company I had not

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Speaker 3: heard of and had it work like It's like I'm

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Speaker 3: the only ones I've used are like you know, the

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Speaker 3: ones that you know dhl uh ups usps, you know, FedEx.

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Speaker 3: I've never Like, honestly, if I saw an option on

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Speaker 3: They could be that I'm fucking up, that it's a

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Speaker 3: the package. I still would be like, I'm good. I

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Speaker 6: Do the shipping label through that company, pirate Ship for

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Speaker 7: So I contacted pirate Ship, filed the dispute, submitted all

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Speaker 6: She tried to speak with me.

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Speaker 3: She got on the phone with him and they was like,

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Speaker 3: look at me, look at me, I'm the captain.

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Speaker 6: Now, someone in the company. But all she got were

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Speaker 3: At this point, I should come out sorry as a boy,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't find that answer for you, Nigga. For thirteen

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Speaker 3: find you for my money.

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Speaker 4: Dog, what why would be at the office's first fucking

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, they even have a physical office. I

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Speaker 3: bet it's in Nigeria. Okay, I'm sorry Nigeria's but come on, actually,

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Speaker 3: y'all be kind of proud of this, so somewhere right feel.

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Speaker 3: I was like, yes, NFTs Ah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely lived.

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Speaker 7: And that's when I contacted you, and I also contacted

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Speaker 7: from pirate Ship again telling me that ups has graciously

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Speaker 3: This is what I love about credit cards. I hate

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Speaker 3: about banks because credit card company, you'll be like, these

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Speaker 3: niggas stole my money. I tried to resolve it. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here's your money back, and guess what we gonna investigate. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: when the credit card come to get the call on

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Speaker 4: everybody to get to that wh they got motherfucking centse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, credit card company, don't just do you like, uh,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like no credit card, like something didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: They ain't delivered. He's your money back. God, all the

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Speaker 6: Did you ever get an understanding of how this happened?

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Speaker 7: No, no one explained to me what had happened.

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Speaker 6: So I reached out to Pirate Ship to get answers,

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Speaker 6: a spokesperson telling me somehow the machines saw the package

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Speaker 6: as being larger than the carrier's maximum limits, which at

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Speaker 6: that point very expensive penalties are applied.

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Speaker 3: Somehow it sawid as being But was it or not right?

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Speaker 3: And what? And how much bigger did it? Think it

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Speaker 4: Like that's crazy, right, blaying the machine? Kiss my ass?

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Speaker 3: Oh this was scared of shit out of me, right, And.

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you this some shit they do all the

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Speaker 4: time and and like that, and they go back and forth.

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Speaker 4: People just like fucking it. They just pay uh uh.

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Speaker 3: Somebody gotta get hurt.

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Speaker 6: Paul Bartholomy first.

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Speaker 3: Of all, who'd have fucked got thirteen hundred extra dollars?

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Speaker 3: Who just got it sitting around like, oh okay, they they

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Speaker 3: got me for thirteen hundred, but you know, lost ninety

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Speaker 3: six bricks had to fall back.

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Speaker 6: I'll be all right with the Better Business Bureau says

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Speaker 6: it's a lesson we should all learn.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now they just getting into the other shit. I

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Speaker 3: She didn't go shady shippers?

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Speaker 4: Black market shippers?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: And so basically, dude, you're telling me what we've been doing.

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Speaker 4: Just go straight to the because I guarantee you doing

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Speaker 4: straight to gups ups would have handled that, and now

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Speaker 4: bet you guess what they machines wouldn't have mistakenly oversized

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Speaker 4: your package and you showed them the paperwork.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, that's ghetto as fucked that it

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Speaker 4: You know, right, it's programmed to do that. Trust.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a website Pirate Ship Ship Packages with

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Speaker 3: Pirate Ship number one choice for small businesses and entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 3: No monthly fees, markup or hidden costs. I think thirteen

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Speaker 4: There's a calling fees, I guess. So, I guess most

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Speaker 4: if you joined a membership persponsible.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, they just say that it's you can save

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Speaker 3: up to fifteen percent compared to what it costs to

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Speaker 3: go to the USPS. But I like, the USPS is

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Speaker 3: one of the few things in America that actually runs

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Speaker 3: well and costs less than it should. I don't even know,

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Speaker 3: like if you, honestly, if your business need to get

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Speaker 3: fifteen percent below USPS, it might not. Business might not

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Speaker 3: be the thing you need to be in because good grief,

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Speaker 3: all right? Bealinciaga, the fashion line sued their own ad

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Speaker 3: campaign people. They fouled a twenty five million dollars suit

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Speaker 3: of a controversial ad amid BDSM Teddy Bear backlash. Good god, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: over the luxury brands BDSM Teddy Bear ads. The Fashion

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Speaker 3: House brought the suit Friday against production company North six Inc.

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Speaker 3: And set designer Nicholas das Jardins and.

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Speaker 4: His idea BDSM for Kids.

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Speaker 3: BDSM Teddy Bears. But they are trying to seek redress

436
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Speaker 3: for extensive damages, defendix calls, and connection with an advertising campaign.

437
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: Butlinciaga hired than to produce. Now, I'm guessing that at

438
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: some point it has to be approved by you or else.

439
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: How does it get into a magazine or an advertising

440
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: spot like someone had been Lynciaga said yes to what

441
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: y'all got back, and so I mean, let's they just

442
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: completely went rogue and the ad campaign you knew nothing

443
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: about it and without approval.

444
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: Just y'all approved one thing and then they did something else.

445
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

446
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 4: Trust it's some emails, some paperwork got signed, Like they're

447
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: gonna be like, well, such such approved, like we don't

448
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 4: understand y'all just told us no. Yeah, so they five

449
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: million dollars. Of course they gonna fight this.

450
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: Right, what do you mean twenty five million dollars? Of

451
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: course they gone for.

452
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Speaker 4: A loss to like like the people that did to

453
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Speaker 4: be there, sem they're gonna be like, well, y'all approved this, Like.

454
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 3: Oh well I haven't heard that side of it yet, Okay,

455
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 3: but uh yeah they But Blissiaga is saying, you know,

456
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: this is what happened.

457
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Speaker 6: Now.

458
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the pictures, and the thing is, I

459
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 3: don't look, I'm not a pedophile. I don't know how

460
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 3: pedophilia works, to be honest, y'all. But it's like a

461
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: little kid holding the bear. I mean, it's like it's

462
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: apparently it's it's not bad enough. They can't put it

463
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: in this unless there's some other images they aren't showing.

464
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: Like is it like a little harnessing.

465
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the bear has like a spike collar and

466
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: all this shit. I mean, just it looks to me,

467
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: it's more that it looks stupid. Then I'm like, oh

468
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: my god, this is so sexual. Like the kids don't

469
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: even look like they know what the fuck the bear

470
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Speaker 3: is that shit?

471
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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it's a smaller children for those of

472
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Speaker 4: you that can't see it.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't like I'm not saying no one

474
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: should be offended, but I don't find it. Like if

475
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Speaker 3: I saw this picture what I know in this article,

476
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like, my god, they are trying to

477
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: make child point. I'd be like that's stupid, God.

478
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 4: But like that's inappropriate. What is this?

479
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: Like what are you even selling? Are you selling the bear?

480
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: Are you selling?

481
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 4: Like?

482
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: What the fuck? And who? Like who is a BDSM

483
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: teddy bear for? Like I don't know what. I don't

484
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 3: know fashion, I don't know what this is about. But yeah,

485
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: it just seemed more stupid than anything else, and it

486
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: seemed like someone other than me would have thought it

487
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: was stupid before putting it in a fucking advertising thing.

488
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: But it sounds to me because like Kim Kardashian had

489
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: a statement about it and how it was disgusting as

490
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: a mother children, and she's reevaluated her relationship with them

491
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: as a fashion brand. Like so it's a pretty big,

492
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: pretty big deal for her to even say something, because

493
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Speaker 3: you would think that with them suing their own advertising

494
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: unit or whatever, you could just be like, well, it

495
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: look like they handle it. They ain't got nothing to

496
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: do with me. But even she's like, nah, this is

497
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: too far, So I guess we'll find out.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see kind of what happens. But yeah, with businesses,

499
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 4: for most businesses, there's too many checks and balances, you know,

500
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Speaker 4: unless you went through and then they had some extra

501
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: shit a went a rent roll or some shit that

502
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: you was like, the fuck is this? I could see

503
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: it being a problem with there, but you have too

504
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: many checks and balances and it crossed too many people.

505
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: Was desk before, you know, because it's too much money.

506
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 4: It costs too many people desk before it hit hit

507
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: the Wait.

508
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: Who was the person that thought this was hot fire?

509
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: Until somebody thought it was Who was the person that

510
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: thought this was hot fire until the fucking pushback. Because

511
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: that's what happened. Somebody was in the office like, yes,

512
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: this is it, this is what we won't this is

513
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: what we need. And then and then somebody was like, uh,

514
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: have you seen Twitter? We're trending not the good way

515
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: over Elon musk all right. Tender users say situation situationship

516
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: is a valid relationship status.

517
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: What that means is that it's a complicated situations yep.

518
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: Is when you're not quite dating someone, but you're not

519
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: just sleeping with them either. If it sounds murky, it's

520
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: because it is. Young singles are down for the vagueness, however,

521
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: as long as it's clearly defined. In an end app

522
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: survey among tender users ages eighteen to twenty four of

523
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: the UK, US and Australia done last month, one in

524
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: ten respondents said they prefer situationships as a way to

525
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: develop a relationship with less pressure the app.

526
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: Saw is not a full fledged commitment.

527
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: The app saw a forty nine percent jump in members

528
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: adding situationship to their profiles from January to October this year.

529
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they let you know it, Frank, not looking for

530
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: a relationship like you know, casual if it's turn into

531
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 4: something cool, but you know, don't expect to get basically

532
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Speaker 4: one hundred.

533
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: I think also these like the kids now, especially since

534
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: the Internet, I think they like labels as much as

535
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: they kind of don't want to be defined by anything.

536
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 3: They want to define everything. I mean, you know, we

537
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: saw the started this when it was like Facebook has

538
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: thirty seven different genders, and people were like, what, you know,

539
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: our generation of schot often at it. But I mean

540
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: you go fast forward a few years and like everybody

541
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: got some different shit. You know, oh I'm a sapeo sexual,

542
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: I'm of this, I'm you know, stuff that we think

543
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: didn't need a label. You know, they were like, oh yeah, okay,

544
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: sure it's got a label now. So I think situationship

545
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: as a romantic, you know, term for whatever trust or

546
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: entanglement you're in, that kind of makes sense that they

547
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: be into that. You know. I think also coming out

548
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: of the pandemic, you probably got a lot upticking all

549
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: this shit too, because now that people got choices, they

550
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 3: can go outside, it might be getting a little complicated.

551
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: That's why that is to complicated, that that is simplify that.

552
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, young singles are down to play the field

553
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: this year at Tender Road and the release, but they

554
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: after for a high quality roster where everyone was on

555
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: the same page. Yeah, I think if this symbolizes communication,

556
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: I think that's healthy because I mean, what's more hurtful?

557
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: Rejections always hurtful. But I think when people don't even

558
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, what's that number one question? What are we?

559
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: You know, when you can't even like define what the

560
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: fuck this is and it's like, are we seeing other people?

561
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: Are we not? Am I am I tripping? If I

562
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: stop seeing other people? And I like, whatever that situation is,

563
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: what is that you know? And I guess if you're

564
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: if you're also looking at it economically, a lot of

565
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: times people don't have the money to really do relationships,

566
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: relationships I don't think. Yeah, I don't think a lot

567
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: of people have the money to do dating. The way

568
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: that we grew up thinking dating was uh, we're still

569
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: in denial about it because if you listen to people

570
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: talk about dating more even more even even more rigid

571
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: than their like Cis had monogamous framing the most to me,

572
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: the most like dogmatic framing is people having money. The

573
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: a option is that you have the money to go

574
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: do traditional dating, to go out to restaurants, spend the

575
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: money on that or entertainment or whatever. And some people do,

576
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: but I think less and less people do. And the

577
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: idea of going Dutch paying for yourself or someone outside

578
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: of the traditional being whoever just has the most money.

579
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: I think those things are interesting. I think situationship sounds

580
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: like something. Maybe you could say, oh, it's not just

581
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: us going out on dates, it's us hanging out of

582
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: each other's houses or something something that doesn't, you know,

583
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: cost as much. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if

584
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: some of it was was by that. And almost nobody

585
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: talks about economics when it comes to a relationship. Everyone

586
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: just talks about romance and love and gender roles. But

587
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: after I read that book, Fuck, it's something poor I'll

588
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: look it up in a second. But after I read

589
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: this book about I think it's called poorly something. I'll

590
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: tell you a second. Anyway, after I read this book,

591
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff about the myths of poverty

592
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: poorly misunderstood. I think that's what it's called, or poorly understood.

593
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: But some of the myths of poorly understood that, Yeah,

594
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: that's what's called some of the myths about poverty, like

595
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: if you get married, you're less likely to be poor,

596
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: and that's why we need to promote marriage and lower

597
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: income families. And then that da da da. I mean,

598
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: but I mean it's correlated in that Statistically, if you

599
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: look at it, it's you can actually factually prove married

600
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: people are more likely to have the stable household, household,

601
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: more income, blah blah blah. What they never talk about

602
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: is that's also because people that have money are more

603
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: likely to get married. Like, correct, you already have the money,

604
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: so your life was more stable than a person that

605
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: never had the money in the first fucking place. So

606
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: it's not just marriage as a status immediately push you

607
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: in another tax bracket. It's people in another tax back

608
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: and have the luxury of Oh, I think I want

609
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: to get married. I can afford a wedding, I can

610
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: afford a house, I can afford to have kids. Yes.

611
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: And the thing is, you know, when people talk about marriage,

612
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 4: people from every financial background getting married, and so you

613
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: have the working poor which also get married, and a

614
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: lot of times, guess what, they still the working poor.

615
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: It doesn't bump them out of a tax bracket. You know,

616
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: and even some people listen to side of my boys

617
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: have parents that worked. Both of their parents worked, and

618
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: they still struggled and barely making it, or they are

619
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: the parents that are like, I'm barely making it. So

620
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: people say that and you might get a little bup.

621
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Speaker 4: But you know, like you say, if you are financially stable, yes,

622
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: that statistic is true.

623
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that's a big part of keeping mind. Also,

624
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: the sub is from eighteen to twenty five, So if

625
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: you're single on your forty listening our show thirty five whatever,

626
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: this may not sound cool for you, And that's fine

627
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: because they're probably just talking about younger people, correct, and

628
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: the trends of that. Also, they they in their mind

629
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: it takes the pressure off of it, which which is

630
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: interesting because to them, no pressure means it can build

631
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: towards a relationship, which is so interesting, right because I

632
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: know for a lot of us coming up, it was

633
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: if you do not have a goal, if you do

634
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: not have some pressure, you ain't never gonna get the relationship, right,

635
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: And here they are these younger kids being like, no,

636
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: if we don't put pressure on ourselves, maybe well a

637
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: relationship will develop without us having a specific goal.

638
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: In mind, right, because my generation be like, be just

639
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: don't waste my time, like you know what, I'm feeling like,

640
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: I have shit to do. I could be fucking somebody else.

641
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: Why am I wasting my time with you? If you know.

642
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: And a lot of that's patriarchy, which puts a lot

643
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: of that pressure, you know, to do those things to

644
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: be like hey, we gonna do something or nah, because

645
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: I could be doing something else with my time. My

646
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: time is precious to me.

647
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's just interesting. I think that's it sounds

648
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: like it's more about vibes are having a good time

649
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: than necessarily building towards something. And I wonder if that's

650
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: a cycle too, Like as they get older, will they

651
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: then feel the pressure, because I wonder if you gave

652
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: us a survey from eighteen to twenty four, most of

653
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: us would have been like, yeah, I'm cool with whatever, right,

654
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: And then once you get to like to that age

655
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: where there's peer pressure and family pressure that like be

656
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: moving towards some type of goal. I wonder if that's

657
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: when people go no situationship ain't gonna cut it for

658
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: me either, you like, are you gonna meet my kids?

659
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: Or are you not gonna meet my kids, like, we

660
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: need to figure this out early, and often you know.

661
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: Right, and then it puts the pressure back on and

662
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where you know, I understand,

663
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 4: but a lot a lot of that don't fit for everybody.

664
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: It's personality wise. Some people they can vibe their way

665
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: all the way through motherfucking life, and some people that go,

666
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: that shit ain't for me.

667
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. While most men don't have enough close.

668
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: Friends, yeah, okay, go ahead.

669
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: Less than half of men report being satisfied with their friendships,

670
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: and only one in five said they had received emotional

671
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: support from a friend in the last week, comparing that

672
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: to four and ten women. According to a twenty twenty

673
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: one survey from the Center on American Life. This falling

674
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: out for friendships between men begins around middle and late

675
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: adolescents and gross starking adulthood, said Judy E E. Chong Chu,

676
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: who teaches a class on boys psychological development at Stanford

677
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: University in California. And those who do maintain friendships with

678
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: other men say they tend to have lower levels of

679
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: emotional intimacy than women report. Boys don't start emotionally connecting,

680
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: they become emotionally disconnected. Yeah, they've become emotionally disconnected, say

681
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: doctor Naobi Way, a researcher and a professor of applied

682
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 3: psych psychology at New York University. Which is interesting coming

683
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: off of that study we talked about, yess, they were

684
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: people getting lonelier in the pandemic, and loneliness leading to

685
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: the higher racist depression for people that are you know,

686
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: like single or isolated during the pandemic.

687
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: Yes, I disconnected. Then again, it's not because a lot

688
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: of it's a society. How do we raise young men

689
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: like you, particularly straight young men like how do we

690
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: raise them? You know, we raised young women to socialize,

691
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 4: We raised them to get to be friends, we raised

692
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: them to be emotional. We raise them we throw babies,

693
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 4: baby dolls in their hands, something to take care of.

694
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: We don't do boys like that.

695
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: I think also, like the labor of friendship and relationships

696
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: is something that is instilled in women and girls from

697
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: an early age that and it's reinforced throughout your entire lifetime.

698
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: Whereas for men, the labor of the friendship isn't necessarily considered.

699
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: It's not saying you shouldn't be friends or that you're

700
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: not there for your friends or something. But like the

701
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: friendship being something that can take work, be work, you

702
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: get better at something that you know, you strive for

703
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: and maintain. I think it's that's definitely not something that

704
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: has been instilled in me from the perspective of men

705
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: need to do that. Like what kind of like when

706
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 3: someone talks about the value of a man, I think

707
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: a lot of times friendship and caring for others is

708
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: not near the top of what makes a man valuable

709
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: to people, right.

710
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: Right, And it's also just is just God say, I'm

711
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: not a man, but me on the outside, you know,

712
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: looking in as being a woman is just one of

713
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 4: those things where they're not taught that. And a lot

714
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: of men are emotionally stunned and they've never really been

715
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: challenged to kind of think outside of themselves. Women are

716
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 4: actually think outside of yourself. Care, care, care, care to

717
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: the detriment of your life. Care, put everybody in, everyone

718
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: and everything before you. A man he isn't trained to

719
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: put everybody in everything before himself.

720
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: I think also though, there's this thing of men are

721
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: often it's seen as weak to want things emotionally. So

722
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: for example, everyone's experienced this. You ask a man something

723
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: like what do they want for their birthday or Father's

724
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: Day or Christmas or something, And like a vast a

725
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: big amount of men will either say nothing, or they

726
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: have no idea, or they haven't thought about it, or

727
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: the worst one to me is to be left alone,

728
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: you know, or whatever in a way that we would

729
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: never accept that from the matriarchs, the women in our lives.

730
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: Right if your wife says, if you say, what do

731
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: you want for your birthday? And they go to be

732
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: left alone, It's like, what's wrong is this? You know,

733
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: like we're supposed to make a fuss over you. We

734
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: need to make you feel wanted, you know, even if

735
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: you'll see even times where like fathers, the men in

736
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: the house take on that role for that day, like

737
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: y'all listen, y'all be quiet, gonna go, we're gonna go

738
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: to this restaurant.

739
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: Y'all, y'all better thank y'all, mama, y'all better tell y'all

740
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 4: mother thank you.

741
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: Right, And so there's like there's like that's even supposed

742
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: to be part of being a man. Is that that

743
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 3: idea of like and you make sure that woman, because

744
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: if you ain't doing that, no d D you know.

745
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: But it's kind of interesting to think, like I think

746
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: a lot of times men cut themselves off. I don't

747
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: think they're cut off like I don't think it's just

748
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: they walk in the house and women go, shut the

749
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: fuck up, where's the money. I think they cut themselves

750
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: off because for whatever reason, like emotionally, I'm not supposed

751
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: to make a big deal out of myself or whatever.

752
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: And I think that's that could be part of it too.

753
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: And then they don't get that, so meaning that they're

754
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 3: not gonna get that from their families because they're cutting

755
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: it off before their family can even get involved, you know.

756
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: So then when it comes to like your friendships, I

757
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: think the time the things that a lot of men

758
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: commiserate over is dislike perceived misery, you know this the

759
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: old ball and chain, my kids getting on my nerves,

760
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: my job, you know whatever. And it's not really necessarily

761
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 3: it's not really like giving you a chance to be supported,

762
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: you know, as a friend. It's just more like oh women, right,

763
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: you know, like it's not it's not like a hey man,

764
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm going through this thing and I was feeling this

765
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: that you know, I know, I as you know, being

766
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: raised how I was how I was raised, and then

767
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: being around the people I was, you know, other men, black,

768
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: black boys, black men. It can be weird when you

769
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 3: start having conversations that are emotional that aren't emotional based

770
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: on just anger or comedy, you know. And I think

771
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: those conversations sound weird too people if you've never experienced it.

772
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 3: And this isn't just a black thing, by the way.

773
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: I mean even when I used to go to the

774
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: bar with my white friends like once a week, it's

775
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: all just sports, the weather, jobs, traffic. But sometimes I

776
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 3: have conversations with like Justin or something and it's about

777
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: like anxiety or you know, we hang out with a

778
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: friend and he's talking about you know, I'm in therapy,

779
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: and this is what's going on with my family, this

780
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: is what's going on my brother and this said and

781
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: the other, and we sit there and we just talk like.

782
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: No one's trying to like joke it away, no one's

783
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: trying to be like but it takes practice, is my point.

784
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: I was not raised like that, and I don't think

785
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: I was raised in some type of emotionally, uh. I

786
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: actually think I was lucky to be raised in the

787
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: house I was with the father I had as far

788
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 3: as when it comes to like emotions and stuff. But uh,

789
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: but definitely my experience has been one where you're the

790
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: oddball if you do engage on something deeper than just

791
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: you know, bitches in basketball or whatever the fuck you know, and.

792
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: They think something's wrong with you. And also it's one

793
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: of the reasons why if women might be talking or

794
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 4: a group of women might be talking and we might

795
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: be getting emotional or talking about things, because this thing

796
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: women talk about a rat range of things and we'll talk, cry,

797
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: continue to talk, laugh like we like you can go

798
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: through a whole circle with women and everybody hug you

799
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 4: so ight, girl, see you next week and we'll be fine.

800
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 4: But if you ever seen like women talking to a

801
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: man walking in the room, it's like it's like emotions

802
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: and they they panic, they want to crack jokes like

803
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: and sometimes I could be annoying because I was like,

804
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: bitch and nobody actually to come in here, fuck up

805
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: the move go on where you come from?

806
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it, you know, I think it takes

807
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 3: practice to be in that mode. I think a lot

808
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: of times humor and anger are like this shit that

809
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: men are taught we can put up to keep us

810
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: from you know, the creamy caramel nuggat inside. You know,

811
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: it's like, no, we gotta have this tough out of

812
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: shell of uh of, just like rock you know, rock

813
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: solid dark chocolate. You know, I'm saying with tobarons, guys.

814
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: Something else I've realized too, And I know I said

815
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: this before, uh I've realized that for a lot of men,

816
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: a lot of the men that I've been around, the

817
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: older they get, the more they tap into their emotions,

818
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: the more they're open, the more they're they're not a

819
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: lot of them are not as angry, you know, particularly

820
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: if they've done work on themselves. A lot of them

821
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: will tell their friends that they love them. A lot

822
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 4: of them will hug their friends and they it ain't

823
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: just a motherfucking gap, you know, and shit like that.

824
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: But it's in my opinion, I'm like, it's sad that

825
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: you got to wait, you get old before you get

826
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: to that point of your life.

827
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: I think, you know, talking in very general terms like

828
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: we are, I think it works both ways, the same

829
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: way that it takes a long time for women to

830
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: stop needing all to approve or support and being like

831
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: I'm a lean into myself, like whatever your program with

832
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: young is what you're gonna be undoing and seeing the

833
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: benefits outside of that, hopefully the rest of your life.

834
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: You know, like you know, it's like it's it's like, oh,

835
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: I don't need other people's approve or a codependency, like

836
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: you know, I love. I love nothing more than when

837
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: uh you know, I have friends friends that are women.

838
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: I love when women hit that age where they be like,

839
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck if you think I'm fat,

840
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: or I should be married, or you don't like whatever,

841
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: like fuck it, Like I'm grown, I pay my own bills.

842
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: It's nothing for you, nothing you can do for me.

843
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 3: Uh Like, maybe I'll stop coming coming to this place

844
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: if you keep talking to me like that.

845
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I got trusted.

846
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: I know women that took them. It took them decades

847
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: to to be able to do that work internally, to

848
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: be able to be like I don't give a fuck.

849
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: Of course, as a man, we're conditioned the other way.

850
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: We're told to not give a fuck in times when

851
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 3: we really should. You know, when you should be seeking connection,

852
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: when you should be talking to somebody, when you should

853
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 3: care about when something is bothering you and you're pretending

854
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 3: that it's not. And so, as you said, men get

855
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: older and then all of a sudden they come in

856
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: to like, oh shit, I am fucked up about this.

857
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: This does bother me, and I haven't been talking about it,

858
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: but yeah, I think a lot of it is just patriarchy, man,

859
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: the way we're taught to engage with each other. Because

860
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: a lot of this isn't just men don't experience these things.

861
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 3: It's am I allowed to share this thing? And if

862
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 3: I do? Am I gonna be ridiculed? Am I gonna

863
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: be kicked out of the group? Am I gonna be

864
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: made fun of? If I'm gonna be isolated? So let

865
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: me just pretend everything when it's really not correct.

866
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: And it's also one of those things too, to where

867
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: a lot of men use their wife as the emotional

868
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: support that they actually need to lean and depend on

869
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: other men for.

870
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: Possibly not all.

871
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: But some do.

872
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: And so this is what I'm gonna say though real quick.

873
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: In a marriage, people are going to be each other's

874
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: emotional support. Yes, I think it becomes an issue when

875
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: you're the sole emotional support. That's what I mean, And

876
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: that's what a lot of men do. Is like it's

877
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: because I think there's nothing wrong with being supportive of

878
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: each other emotionally, y'all should be, but it's it's then

879
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: when it's like I'm leaning on you as my only outlet,

880
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: it can be a lot because it's like you should

881
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: talk to other people out because the other thing too,

882
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: you gotta be careful with is you might not want

883
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: a man leaning on other men depending on the topic,

884
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: because some niggas some of them because it's not giving

885
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: good advice, you know, like I hope that they have

886
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: a good, honest friends, and it takes a while to

887
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: build that because it's for me, I know, being outspokenly

888
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: the way I am, that's been helpful for me to

889
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: build real relationships. So I'm never going to be a

890
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: person has a lot of friends. I don't believe in that.

891
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: But I am a person that has to me the

892
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: friendships I have. I feel like I'm more deeper than

893
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: the most people's average friendship. And the thing I will

894
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: say is leaning on people or talking to people emotionally,

895
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: whatever that circle of trust that you build, it has

896
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: to still be authentic because I think what happens is

897
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: a lot of men have surface level friendships that they

898
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: quote unquote lean on and to me, I've seen that

899
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: become so destructive. I still remember playing basketball at my

900
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 3: work league, and most of the people at my job

901
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: at the time that played in the basketball team black dudes.

902
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 3: And so it's like a way for the you know,

903
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 3: handful of black dudes at our company to hang out

904
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: play basketball together, and you know, you get to know them,

905
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: and you know, of course, it leads to like, oh,

906
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: you know, I'm having a cookout, man, why don't you

907
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: come over. I'm doing this, I'm doing that. And this

908
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: was a year where I was out of school and

909
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: you still were in school. It was your senior year.

910
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: And I remember playing basketball with these men and you know,

911
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: men that I kind of you know, you quote unquote

912
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: look up to them. And the fact that they're older,

913
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: they're married, they got their houses, they got good jobs,

914
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: they work in the place you work. They normally have better,

915
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: you know, higher positions than you. So it's like something

916
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: that aspired to So it's kind of like, okay, cool,

917
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: some brothers I played ball with two times a week

918
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: or whatever, and at the time, I was playing basketball

919
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: every night anyway, so what's another night to play with

920
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: the team, you know, And so I really enjoyed playing

921
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: ball with them. It started spawning off and the other stuff, like, oh,

922
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: we go play ball at a different gym. We'd go

923
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: and go go to someone have a cookout at the house,

924
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: and we'd all go to that or something. You know,

925
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: they'd invite you to something. And I remember going to

926
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: a couple of those things and meeting their family and

927
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 3: their kids. And then I remember one day I was

928
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: playing ball, and there's sometimes there's like people that come

929
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: in and watch us play ball and stuff, if somebody's

930
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: wife and their kids will come in or something. But

931
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 3: there's a couple of times they'd just be like girls

932
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: sitting there watching us, and I'm just like, I don't

933
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: know who they with. Maybe they like basketball, they like

934
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: rec league basketball as much. Maybe they're super fans. Who

935
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: gives a fuck, right if not my business. And I

936
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: wouldn't have called any of these people my friends, even

937
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: though I would have said, you know, coworker, colleague, we cool.

938
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: So I remember one time I was there and this

939
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: girl was there, and and the girls will always be

940
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: dressed a bit provocatively for a fucking rec league game

941
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: with a bunch of forty year old married men, and shit,

942
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: and so I.

943
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: Remember, this is no gym or anything around.

944
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn't like you going to the sit sideline

945
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: of the NBA game, right You're sitting on some bleachers

946
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: in the middle of the fucking Charlotte reck League basketball courts.

947
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: And so I remember this one time, this woman was

948
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: sitting there and I was thinking one like, oh, she

949
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: might be my age, because I think I was on

950
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 3: like twenty one, twenty two, and these guys are mostly

951
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: like thirty five and older with kids and families. And

952
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 3: so this guy is like, oh shit, man, hey talking

953
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: to another player. Hey, man, your wife is here. Man,

954
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: your wife is here. And he's like, oh shit, oh no, man,

955
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: she yes, she's about to pull up. Man, I don't

956
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: know what we're gonna do. What we're gonna do. So

957
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: they come over to me, as the twenty one year

958
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 3: old single guy who's uh fiance is still three hours

959
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: away at Fairville. So they come up to me, a

960
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: guy who's gone to their fucking family barbecue and shit, no,

961
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: they and they rod my wife come in. If she

962
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: asked you about that, the girl in the stands, you

963
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: just say she with you, And I said, I said one,

964
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: I said no, I'm not listen judge me how you will.

965
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't measure my friendships and relationships this way. I'm

966
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: not the homeboy to help you cheat. I'm just not

967
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: that guy. I'm never gonna be that guy. It's low

968
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: key offensive to me that you thought I was that guy.

969
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: I wouldn't because I like, I'm that person.

970
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: I would never ask you to do some shit like that.

971
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: And you just need a different type of friend and

972
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: you just need to know your friends better. I just

973
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 3: sat that dude, I'm a square. Leave me out of it.

974
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, so he asked me that, and I said no,

975
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: which is, you know, interesting because I'm twenty one in

976
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: this person's thirty something, and they looking at me like

977
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: they disappointed. I'm looking at them like I'm disappointed. I'm like, nigga,

978
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: I thought y'all was fucking happy family man, and shit,

979
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: you niggas is out here helping trying to help this

980
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: nigga cheat, and they can't say because the families all

981
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: know each other, you can't say it's one of them

982
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: because it's like, oh, she know my wife and my kids,

983
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: So you can't say, oh, that's.

984
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: House is a ship.

985
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I'm like, well, then if she's coming

986
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: up here with your kids and asking about people in

987
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: the stands, she already think you cheap? Correct, Why would

988
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: she even ask me that shit? And maybe they told

989
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: her that was my girlfriend or some shit, or maybe

990
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: they didn't. I don't know. I never got involved in it,

991
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: but I still remember like the kind of disappointment I

992
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: felt like, huh, like that's that's what y'all about, that's

993
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 3: what y'all own. And the way that everyone got information

994
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: what makes me think back to my whole point of

995
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 3: when it's like lean on other men a lot of times,

996
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: you can't go to another man for some mature shit,

997
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 3: cause niggas be on funck shit a lot of times.

998
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: And unless you unless you stand ten times ten toes down.

999
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: And now this is what I'm about, you know the

1000
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: way that I dude. Then sometimes dudes will be real

1001
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: with you.

1002
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: But it's a lot you have tom that I'm like, yeah,

1003
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: don't don't come.

1004
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: It's a lot of work that really isn't worth it

1005
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: unless you really are that way. I've had so many

1006
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: real conversations with dudes my whole life, but it's almost

1007
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: one hundred percent because of how they see me, like

1008
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: they see me as relationship god. They see me as

1009
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: guy that doesn't mind looking soft in love. They see

1010
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: me as guy that h doesn't cheat.

1011
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: Like he's the widow. Let's go talk to him.

1012
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but they'll but it's interesting because they'll be

1013
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 3: that way with me and they wouldn't be that way

1014
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: with another dude. You see what I'm saying, Like, like

1015
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: it's just you know, I've had so many relationship talks

1016
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: with men that, by the way, talks I'm not seeking out.

1017
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: I have.

1018
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 4: Friends.

1019
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm good not talking to this. I don't know you

1020
00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 3: like that.

1021
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: A lot of people have a lot of deep conversations

1022
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: just randomly.

1023
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: Because the other thing is I'm pretty not judgmental. So

1024
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: like if you are on some cheating shit or whatever,

1025
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: I don't I'm never gonna like give you a speech

1026
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: or try to like wake you up. I'm just like

1027
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: apparently that's how you get down. We're not friends anyway, peace,

1028
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: you know, like it's not my business and whatever comes

1029
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: of that is what will come of that. So like

1030
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: it's never me seeking it out. But I've had so

1031
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: many conversations with people that are like it's almost like

1032
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: I can not be full of shit around you, or

1033
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: you're not encouraging me to you're not measuring me by

1034
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: things that other people would consider like toxic quote unquote.

1035
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: So now I can talk to me. Yeah, and so

1036
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that you know anyway, So when

1037
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 3: I hear about a lack of friends, I think about, like,

1038
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 3: what is your friendship measured by? And how deep is

1039
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: it in the first place, Because if your homeboy comes

1040
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: to you with, you know, something serious and not as

1041
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 3: something that be vulnerable, are you prepared right for real?

1042
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: Or are you on some you know? And for some

1043
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 3: people it's an age thing, like they were prepared now,

1044
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: but it's twenty five. They would have said, Man, let's

1045
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: go get some bitches, let's go out to the club.

1046
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: You know.

1047
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: Fuck that shit. When you actually need to talk to

1048
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: them about their heart being broken or whatever else they're

1049
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: going through, right, they sometimes they just need that emotional support.

1050
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: And I know I'm talking a lot here monopolizing it.

1051
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: I don't mean to be. But the other thing I

1052
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: would add too, is there's a shit ton of anger, resentment, entitlement,

1053
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: very dangerous emotions in the average man. And you don't

1054
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: have to look any fucking further than the statistics of

1055
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: violence in America, Matt, whether it be mass shooting, domestic violence,

1056
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: interpartiononal violence, whether it be you know, just like men

1057
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: have a violence, it's problem because we have an emotion problem.

1058
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 3: And when you can't express your emotions, you can't live

1059
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: in all facets of your emotions. When you can't be vulnerable,

1060
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 3: you turn into something.

1061
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: Like.

1062
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 3: We know the formula and we know where it ends,

1063
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: and it normally ends with things aggression and violence and

1064
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 3: acting now, and it's terrible to see people not even

1065
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: be able to find themselves until they're somewhere locked up

1066
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: in a cage, before they have to really do some

1067
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 3: internal reflection about where and why they are that way.

1068
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 3: And the programming is so reinforced when it comes to

1069
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: that shit, it's almost impossible to even communicate with people.

1070
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 3: I've I remember I've talked to people before where you

1071
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 3: just you're talking to a man and as they're talking,

1072
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: I'm realizing, like, oh, you're kind of an in cell.

1073
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: You don't know your in cel, Like, you don't know

1074
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: that you would never think of yourself that way, but

1075
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: just the entitlement you feel, the obsession you feel about

1076
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: sex and women and the anger you have towards them

1077
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: that is not normal or okay. It may be normal

1078
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: at this point, but it's not okay, and it's gonna

1079
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: stop you from ever really being able to truly accept

1080
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: and love yourself because you're so obsessed with measuring yourself

1081
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 3: in the ability for conquest and stuff. Not even by

1082
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 3: the way, not even loving romance. A lot of times

1083
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: people take it easy on the in cels and make

1084
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: it seem like they just are so frustrated the lack

1085
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: of romance. But it's normally just sex. If you listen

1086
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: to the how they talk, it's like if I was

1087
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: a drug dealer, you know, It's like if you was

1088
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: a drug dealer, be a probably a drug dealer not

1089
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: getting no sex. You kind of a whack nigga, right.

1090
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: And the thing is, and this is on the out,

1091
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 4: like I said, on an outside looking in a lot

1092
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 4: of our watch anime Beach just don't want to fuck me.

1093
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: It's like, well, you might just be a whack ass

1094
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 4: nigga that loves anime. It's sometimes it could just be you. Yeah,

1095
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: And I think, like Dak, like women can't pick up

1096
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: on you being whack.

1097
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so earlier when you talked about men

1098
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: getting older and stuff. I think getting older allows you

1099
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: to do some of that introspection if you're inclined to.

1100
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: And I think the opposite for women. And you know

1101
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: we're very generally very sis y'all know what we're talking about, right,

1102
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: But the opposite is for women. Where women get it

1103
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: takes a while for them to get older and start

1104
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: being like it is about me, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,

1105
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: I mean not it is about me, but it isn't

1106
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: about me. In that a lot of the ship people

1107
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 3: are heaping on me ain't got it's not personal. It acts.

1108
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They

1109
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: just see a vagina or woman or and just they

1110
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: start with a bunch of stereotypes and advice and shit,

1111
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: I didn't ask for a lot of pressure that I

1112
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: don't need. And then as they get older, they're like,

1113
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: it's about me and for me the value I put

1114
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: in myself? What, how do I feel? How does this

1115
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: make me feel? Why should any how the shit makes

1116
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: why should how it makes other people feel be the

1117
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: big denominator on what I do. I think that's what

1118
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: happens for women and for men, it goes from me me, me, me, me,

1119
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: selfish to getting older and being like I need other people.

1120
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: How I make other people feel is important, How I

1121
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: communicate with, how how I'm there for them, how they're

1122
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: there for me. I think it's just there. You're just

1123
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 3: it's like watching two opposite things curve the opposite way, right.

1124
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: Because that's kind of how you've been trained. And I

1125
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: know for a and even for myself, the older you

1126
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 4: get that is true, particularly being a straight woman, uh,

1127
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 4: because that's the only perspective I have. So for me,

1128
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: you do get to the point where you be like,

1129
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck and I actually don't care,

1130
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: and no, I'm not doing that. No I'm not going there.

1131
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: No I'm not doing that function. I don't give fuck

1132
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 4: what y'all doing. You know, the older you get, your more,

1133
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: you're more, you're quicker to say kiss my ass, and

1134
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 4: people don't respond well to that for women, and it's

1135
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 4: like women get like men get praised for that and

1136
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: women get penalized for that. You know, it's like I'm

1137
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 4: taking control over my life and I'm telling you what

1138
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 4: I am and am not going to do, and all

1139
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I'm the problem, and that's where you

1140
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: have to go to the I don't care phase in

1141
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: your life. And from talking to older women, a lot

1142
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 4: of them say that they didn't actually get there till

1143
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: they got into like their forties. For a lot of women,

1144
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 4: they say, if by forties to fifties, they say, right

1145
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 4: around in there, they said, that's a lot of older

1146
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: women said, that's a sweet spot where you've lived long

1147
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: enough and you've experienced life long enough that you kind

1148
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 4: of know who you are and what you will and

1149
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 4: won't put up with. And that's why for some men,

1150
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: they quote unquote have issues with older women because the

1151
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: older women be like, bitch, I'm not doing that. No, no, no,

1152
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 4: kiss my ass, I'm not doing that. I'm setting my ways.

1153
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 4: And it becomes like a tussle because a lot of men,

1154
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 4: like you said, they still into that patriarchy and a

1155
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 4: lot of women is like fuck you and that patriarchy.

1156
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 4: And they've done studies and we've read them here they

1157
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 4: say like when people get older, men want to get

1158
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 4: married and women are like a fuck a marriage.

1159
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because men looking for a caretaker in many cases.

1160
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just so I don't find it. I

1161
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: think that study is kind of just revealing in some

1162
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: things that we already kind of knew exists. And then

1163
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 3: the last part of it talks about how to build

1164
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 3: friendships and how to It says, you know, you gotta

1165
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 3: start small. You don't necessarily have to reveal all your

1166
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: vulnerabilities everybody. You don't have to have a lot of friendships.

1167
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: You gotta respect each different friendship and protocol with it

1168
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: and different people's boundaries and stuff. But I think the

1169
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,479
Speaker 3: biggest thing is you have to admit that you need

1170
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: and want other people.

1171
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 4: Correct And.

1172
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: Then the other thing I would add this not in here,

1173
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 3: is that to me, you gotta be reciprocal, meaning you

1174
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: can't want friends and not want to be a friend.

1175
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: I think I think there's a lot of people that

1176
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: see friendships and relationships very transactional now, and especially now

1177
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: that so much of our worth can be measured and

1178
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: follower count and retweets and virility and shit. I think

1179
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people need to look at what is

1180
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: the true value of a friendship for them, and what

1181
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 3: is the true value of being a friend? What is

1182
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: the cost and the labor you want to put into that?

1183
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: Because I think it's fine to say I'm gonna have

1184
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 3: three friends and that's probably gonna be it. And it's

1185
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: fine to say I'm gonna have ten friends. But whatever

1186
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: you decide, you know, like the idea of like being

1187
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: doing that work or or how figuring out those boundaries

1188
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: for yourself is so important because I mean, I think

1189
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: we've all every person's had friendship, heartbreak, friendship. We always

1190
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: talk about romantic mismatches, but friendship mismatches somebody. Somebody's friendship

1191
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: style is I need to call you every day, and

1192
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: your friendship style is hey, text me and I'll talk

1193
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 3: to every blue moon if we need to. Like some people,

1194
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 3: is we gotta go to lunch every week. Some people,

1195
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: as you know, I'll see you when I'm in your town.

1196
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna stretch it out too much. Like

1197
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: figuring out what's best for you and fending those matches,

1198
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: you have to be willing to fail at that. You

1199
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: have to be willing to give it a try. So

1200
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: those are the things I think about when I read

1201
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 3: that article.

1202
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said, when you talk about that, you

1203
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 4: literally start touching into you know, different things, because for

1204
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: a lot of people, they have different levels of friendships.

1205
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 4: You know, for some people. I can, you know, speak

1206
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 4: for myself. I have some people I go, well, oh

1207
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 4: that's the buddy. I go to the movies with. Oh

1208
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 4: that's the buddy. I go walking with the old that's

1209
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: the buddy. You know. We do this with, we do

1210
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: that with, and we're still friends. It's just different spots

1211
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 4: for different people, because, like you said, you have to

1212
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: adjust the friendship according to the people too.

1213
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, all right, let's move on to some other stuff.

1214
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: Let's see maybe we do some Let's see if any

1215
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 3: fucking with black people stuff like turning around. Yeah, yeah,

1216
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: we got some fucking with black people we can do.

1217
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: We pull up the fucking with Black People's song.

1218
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: Who who the fucking with them people? Because they boun

1219
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: fucking with the people, because they with them black people

1220
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: were just fucking looking black fu.

1221
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: That's right. The show is foggy. Starbucks workers suspended over

1222
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: alleged monkey label on a drink.

1223
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 4: Every child should have a new toy for Christmas.

1224
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's an article of just playing

1225
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: this happened in Annapolis, Maryland at the Starbucks. Y'all. You know,

1226
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 3: we love we love the we love the punkin spice,

1227
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 3: but we don't love the races.

1228
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 4: I like the strawberry frappuccino.

1229
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me see if I can play the volume.

1230
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1231
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: That's how impeccable brands the company that an honest mistake.

1232
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: That's how impeccable brands the company that operates the Starbucks.

1233
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: An Annapolis small explains why an employee entered monkey where

1234
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: Monique Hugh's name should have been.

1235
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 8: If you didn't hear my name, you should have said,

1236
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 8: excuse me, can you repeat yourself? Not once did she

1237
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 8: do that. She she labeled me, which she wanted to

1238
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 8: label me.

1239
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: As the only black woman in the shout out to.

1240
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: Social media. Sometime I think about what it must have

1241
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 3: felt like back in the day before social media, you know,

1242
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 3: the eighties. But sometimes I think about like way back

1243
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: in the day, like before even like the century. Yeah,

1244
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 3: just like when black people used to have to deal

1245
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 3: with this kind of shit, and it just you know

1246
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: what you did. You went home and you told your

1247
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: wife or your husband and your friend and yeah, your family,

1248
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: but you but you didn't. You weren't able to pick

1249
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 3: up your phone, turn the camera on, post it on TikTok,

1250
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: and then if enough people seen it that got outraged,

1251
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: you was on the news that night, like, man, shout

1252
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 3: out to that social media. That is one good thing

1253
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: we don't talk about right the.

1254
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: Shop at the time if you believed the incident was

1255
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: racially motivated. Since the story first aired, we have heard

1256
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: from a Starbucks spokesperson and from the CEO of Impeccable Brands,

1257
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 2: a Starbucks licensee and operator of the store.

1258
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: In a letter.

1259
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: They told Pugh that they have suspended the employee involved

1260
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: pending further investigation, and apologized. Their message reads, in part quote,

1261
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: we believe, following our initial investigation, that the label was

1262
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: made in error. However, this is not the warm and

1263
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: welcoming experience we want to create for our customers, and

1264
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: we are actively working to ensure this does not happen again.

1265
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: We are exploring other opportunities to better train our staff

1266
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: in understanding cultural and racial sensitivities to ensure all future

1267
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: interactions are welcoming and inclusive.

1268
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: Okay, this is an unpopular opinion in a hot take,

1269
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 3: but man, I'll be feeling bad for these big ass

1270
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: companies when one person do some racis because now you

1271
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: gotta lie like, oh, we got to train everybody with sensitivity.

1272
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 3: It was one racist. We didn't know they was going

1273
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 3: to be racist. They should just be fired and that

1274
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: should be the end of it, right. I also love

1275
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: the idea of suspension, like it's Kyrie over, Like we

1276
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: suspended them five games and it could be more. But

1277
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 3: they need to figure ain't y'all.

1278
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 4: Ain't y'all fighting against union? You ain't got no union

1279
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: to fight against? Fire them?

1280
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, why why is this even none?

1281
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 8: All?

1282
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: That sounds cold to be honest, to just be like

1283
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 3: fire motherfucker. But I mean this seemed pretty pretty cut

1284
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: and dry to me. Maybe hey, nobody made a mistake.

1285
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 4: It was a bitch you put money in there here?

1286
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, what's gonna be the explanation that would even

1287
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: be plausible for you to be? Like, Okay, you know

1288
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 3: what it.

1289
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 4: Shit happens y'all sa people all day. Who else would

1290
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 4: you call the motherfucking monkey kiss my ass?

1291
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: Like I thought she said her name was monkey. I said,

1292
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: what's your name? She's Oh wait, isn't her name Monique?

1293
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 3: Hold on? Let me see what was her name? Monique Pew?

1294
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: Maybe she thought she said her name was monkey? Oh

1295
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: my god, because then what.

1296
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 4: Do you do after again, ma'am, could you repeat that?

1297
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, mm hmmm. I figured it out. I

1298
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: solved a fucking mystery. She thought she said her name

1299
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 3: was monkey for real. Mh well, boys, that egg on

1300
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: your face, because I don't even know what I'd do

1301
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: if I, for black person said their name was monkey,

1302
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: I'd be scared to ask them to say it back.

1303
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: I'll be like, I don't want those signs. They don't

1304
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: know it's versus. I'm not gonna tell them. I want

1305
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: to be the first motherfucker to let them know what.

1306
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: Was your initial thought when you got this apology.

1307
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 8: That it was focus and the fact that they keep

1308
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 8: saying that it was an honest mistake, So now it's

1309
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 8: an honest mistake in a labeling error to say that

1310
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 8: you're taking the necessary steps to make sure that that

1311
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 8: word isn't put on any more customers drinks.

1312
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,480
Speaker 4: It's like, what were you doing before.

1313
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: A Storybuck spokesperson made sure to differentiate.

1314
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: Oh whoaa, what if someone's name is monkey and now

1315
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 3: they're in the system because Monique here that went overboard

1316
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: and made sure it's not in the Starbucks system. Ever,

1317
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 3: That's that's crazy. I might won't watch it to be name.

1318
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: Muggy between a Starbucks operated store and a license store,

1319
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 2: but Peugh says there should not be a difference in

1320
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 2: how you were treated.

1321
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 8: It's triggering because it's basically just like, Okay, this occurred

1322
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 8: in our store, but we're wiping our hands clean.

1323
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 4: Maybe corporate doesn't even get involved.

1324
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: Carl Willis seven News, Yeah, and what kills me.

1325
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 4: A lot of them do this between the corporate and franchisees. Bitch,

1326
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 4: when I go I see fucking McDonald's, I don't know

1327
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 4: the goddamn difference. So when I go to a Starbucks,

1328
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 4: it's multifucking Starbucks. Like as a customer, I don't know

1329
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: if you're a franchise these is not a franchise ease.

1330
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 4: That don't fucking matter to me.

1331
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear what you said, but we're not gonna

1332
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of the corporate infrastructure in franchise

1333
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: ease today. That like, that's just how it. That's unfortunate,

1334
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 3: but that's how it is. Like basically Starbucks TM or

1335
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck gotta take back the franchise e license

1336
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: from this one company because it's one person misheard somebody

1337
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: and put this ship on the label. That's what it

1338
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 3: seems like would be the reaction that would satisfy people here.

1339
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,520
Speaker 3: And I think that would be actually an overreaction.

1340
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, but but but yeah, but I could see

1341
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 4: the person getting mad, going I just see Starbucks.

1342
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: Of course. I mean, but they was mad. They was

1343
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: mad the song. They don't.

1344
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,879
Speaker 4: They ain't nobody over.

1345
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 3: We're not overdoing what franchise ease. No, I'm sorry you

1346
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 3: had a bad experience, but come on, man, customer not

1347
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 3: always write anyway zero ten hundred, what would you give

1348
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: us a hundred?

1349
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: Don't call me no motherfucking monkey. Asks me clarify if

1350
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 4: you heard wrong, ask me again, clarify. And this is

1351
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 4: not trying to be fun out of top. This is

1352
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 4: what happened. Y'all be doing these cute ass ship when

1353
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: y'all be like, oh no, that's pronounce your name. No

1354
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 4: bitch asks me ask people to spell their names and

1355
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 4: ship like y'all they do that shit thinking it's cute.

1356
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 4: Somebody put monkey in there. Ha ha ha jokes on you.

1357
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 4: The person got mad. It's not funny.

1358
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: No more. Yeah, I don't, I'm not. I get this

1359
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: like a twenty five. It's not making me mad at all.

1360
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 3: I really think it was an honest mistake. And unless

1361
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: they got a pattern of this at this store, or

1362
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: that employee got something that they got on the I

1363
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 3: think that person really thought their name was monkey put

1364
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 3: in the system did not understand how like that it

1365
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 3: was got to turn into, you know, such a racial connotation,

1366
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: and I know I'm sensitive to that kind of shit.

1367
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: I remember my friend, a white guy, had a child,

1368
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 3: white kid, and he would call her little monkey and

1369
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 3: his little monkey and all this shit, and I would

1370
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: tense up every time I heard it, even though it's

1371
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: white people talking to a white kid and there's no

1372
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 3: racial connotation to this shit. So I would be like,

1373
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is how can you keep saying

1374
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: and this kid is a monkey? But it's not racial

1375
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: to them, right because they don't They not thinking like

1376
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: me and you, So I don't, you know, I think

1377
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 3: And this is one of the issues with social media

1378
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 3: and shit too, and how stories are presented to us.

1379
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 3: We always assume the worst, Like this person decided I'm

1380
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: just going to randomly be racist get found out on purpose,

1381
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: because it's not like the label was on the cup.

1382
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't like that thing where you get a receipt

1383
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: from like aha, and they have like something they put

1384
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: racist in the background, like four niggers, and then you

1385
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 3: get your bill and be like, what the fuck is

1386
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 3: four niggas doing on my bill? I think they really

1387
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: thought she said her name was monkey, and they fucked

1388
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 3: up in that. They should have probably asked her to clarify.

1389
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 3: Of course, we're only asking her to clarify because she's black.

1390
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: Let's keep that in mind, which is also a racial thing.

1391
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 3: Like it's because it's like, uh, what's the name of Monique? Is? Like,

1392
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: are you or you thought she said monkey? So you

1393
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 3: are Uh can you say that again? What I said?

1394
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 3: I said money? Okay, oh shit, thank god? Like that

1395
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: could have been it too, but I don't. I found

1396
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 3: it to be more of a mistake than a intentional

1397
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 3: racist thing. So yeah, this is twenty five. It's not

1398
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 3: that big a deal to me. Let's go to the

1399
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: next one. How about this one, Lizzo Denia, she makes

1400
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 3: music for a white audience that she covers Vanity.

1401
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 4: Fair wetting at that woman for years, yes, and she's

1402
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 4: been responding.

1403
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: It's always been I always thought it was weirdly anti

1404
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 3: black when they did that to her. I remember we

1405
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: covered it on the show when Arie Lennox was mad

1406
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: that Lizo won a Soul Train Award and tried to

1407
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: be like the and like definitely took shots at Lizo,

1408
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 3: said she makes white music or some shit, and I'm like,

1409
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of Lizzo's music. It sounds black to me.

1410
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 3: What the fuck? Like, I don't listen to it and go,

1411
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: this is a white lady singing, And like, why are

1412
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: y'all even coming for her? And why is it always

1413
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: gotta be like that?

1414
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, because she crossed over and a lot of our

1415
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 4: favorite artists cross over.

1416
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: And right, So yeah, I think it's sad that years

1417
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 3: later she gotta address it. But she said, this is

1418
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 3: probably the biggest criticism I've received. It's such a critical

1419
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 3: conversation when it comes to black artists. When black people

1420
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 3: see a lot of white people on the artists, they think, well,

1421
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 3: this isn't for me, this is for them. The thing

1422
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 3: is on a black artist, he's just a certain level

1423
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 3: of popularity. It's going to be a predominantly white crowd.

1424
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 3: She continued, explaining, I'm not making music for white people.

1425
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm a black woman. I'm making music from my black experience.

1426
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 3: She says. She creates music for me to heal myself

1427
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 3: from the experience we call life. So I'm making music

1428
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: for that girl right there who looks like me, who

1429
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 3: grew up in the city where she has she was

1430
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: underappreciated and picked on and made to feel unbautiful. She says,

1431
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: am I doing that? Yes, Clapping back at her critics,

1432
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 3: she said, it blows my mom and people say, I'm

1433
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: not making me from a black perspective. How could I

1434
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 3: not do that as a black artist. Yeah, And I

1435
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 3: think there are some artists where you feel like or

1436
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: see them kind of deracifying their music. I don't think

1437
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 3: she does that. I'm not saying it's a phenomenon that

1438
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 3: never happens. I remember listening to like the Black Eyed Peas,

1439
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 3: and they definitely made a switch of like we're gonna

1440
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 3: stay as far away from anything racial, make all this money,

1441
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 3: and we just gonna be, you know, talking about whatever

1442
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: the fuck, but definitely nothing too serious. And you know,

1443
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of times those artists end

1444
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: up regretting that shit and coming back into later years

1445
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 3: like nah, we black. But I don't think Lizo's done that,

1446
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 3: you know, I just think the shoe doesn't fit with her.

1447
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 3: And a lot of that was people working backwards with

1448
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: either disrespecting her because they liked another artist better or

1449
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 3: simply being like, if I see white people enjoying something,

1450
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 3: it must be something wrong with it anyway, all right, zere,

1451
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 3: I can see that.

1452
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 4: I guess a twenty five because this sounds like an

1453
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 4: ongoing battle, and you know what, I'm I'm a bump

1454
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 4: this up to way seventy five. And the reason why

1455
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 4: is because as somebody who likes music is very frust

1456
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 4: it could be frustrating for me to see artists kind

1457
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 4: of go and you know, black people support them, and

1458
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 4: then they cross over and black people still support them,

1459
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 4: but you have a percentage to go. The second white

1460
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 4: people eyes are on you, they change and all of

1461
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 4: a sudden you all to made miss white people, and

1462
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 4: you go, well, I actually made music for everybody, you know,

1463
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: and y'all everybody. But you know, for some reason, once

1464
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 4: white eyes get on me and I blow up, and

1465
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm famous, all of a sudden, I've changed.

1466
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: Because I think a lot of that comes from white supremacy.

1467
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 4: You know, for a lot of us we feel like

1468
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: you're not ours anymore once you cross over to whiteness.

1469
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 4: And you know, for somebody's that's truth. For somebodys that's not.

1470
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 4: But people just automatically just throw and make that assumption

1471
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 4: just for various different reasons. And now that really bothers me,

1472
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 4: particularly when it comes to black women, because I'm a

1473
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 4: black woman and you know, sound like she's had a

1474
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 4: black ass experience and she's singing these things and we are,

1475
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 4: you know, and just because I'm black, you know, I

1476
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 4: could sing about rainbows and a lot of pops and

1477
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 4: you know things that's quote unquote race neutral. It don't

1478
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 4: mean I'm not black, and it don't mean I'm not

1479
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 4: a nigga, you know. But for some reason, people just

1480
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 4: claim once you cross over, all of a sudden, you

1481
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 4: quote unquote sob out of what it may be. And

1482
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: it's not for every artist and not for all artists,

1483
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 4: but it just bothers me, particularly once I see this

1484
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: happen and just see artists get quote unquote consistently attacked

1485
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 4: like that.

1486
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think about it's definitely a seventy five for

1487
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 3: me as well. I think a lot of times it's

1488
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 3: lizo just don't really be bothering nobody, and yet she

1489
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: is so much at the center of criticism in so

1490
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 3: many different ways from so many different groups, and all

1491
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 3: of the reeks of insecurity of that group, whether it's

1492
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 3: people that have, you know, the phobias around people being fat,

1493
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 3: whether it's people that don't like black women, whether it's

1494
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 3: people that you know, like like black people that think

1495
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 3: she's somehow catering to white folks or something. It just

1496
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 3: seems like it's always some shit where it's and she

1497
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 3: doesn't really seem to want to court this shit, Like

1498
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 3: she doesn't seem to be trying to be controversial in

1499
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: a lot of ways. I think I get being I think,

1500
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 3: you know, you could argue she was being provocative with

1501
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 3: the close order the Lakers game, you know, and I

1502
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 3: think she meant to be provocative in that case. That

1503
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:05,440
Speaker 3: but to me, no more provocative than you know, Madonna

1504
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 3: tongue kissing Britney spears of the fucking you know, like

1505
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 3: like yeah, like like nothing that required the level of

1506
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 3: hate and vitriol that comes from it. Like normally people

1507
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 3: just be like that's weird, or you're being annoying, or

1508
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: you're doing too much with her, it just turns into

1509
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 3: some other discussion that becomes like so fucking charged, you know,

1510
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 3: and so I hate that she has to deal with it,

1511
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Because it's like an addition

1512
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 3: to like Tucker Carlson talking shit about her. She also

1513
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 3: got niggas talking shit because Ari Lennox didn't win a war.

1514
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 3: As if there's no fucking way to be a fan

1515
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: of Ari Lennox and Lizzo, one of these black women

1516
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 3: got to go.

1517
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 4: It can only be one, right, Are people are fans

1518
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 4: of of multiple different artists? The things about uh an

1519
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 4: array of different things, you know, across the board and

1520
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 4: all that type of stuff.

1521
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess it got to her and that

1522
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: that's the part that pisses me off, is she even

1523
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 3: got a fucking you know, address this bullshit. Because we've

1524
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 3: seen all these artist especially these young black women on

1525
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: social media where the shit gets to them, it gets

1526
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 3: back to them, they hear it. People think, because we're

1527
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: so not insecure, what's the word, We're so jealous, we're

1528
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: so jealous and envious of these people's positions in society

1529
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 3: and their money and the shit that we just think

1530
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 3: those things insulate you from your mental health, like, hey,

1531
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 3: you're famous. You got the Grammy, didn't you? You know,

1532
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 3: And it's like, and clearly, when this person is in

1533
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: this interview, you're hearing the Grammy doesn't stop me from

1534
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 3: having emotions. It doesn't validate me the way you think

1535
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 3: it would person that's never won a Grammy and not

1536
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 3: been the center of attention in this type of way,

1537
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 3: Like it makes me feel a way. And I think,

1538
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 3: especially with black people, most of the time, we want

1539
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 3: some connection to each other, and so to take away

1540
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 3: that connection or to act like someone doesn't want it,

1541
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 3: it's one of the most hurtful things you can do

1542
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 3: to a black person. And I think you know, right,

1543
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 3: all right, let's wrap this bad boy up with some

1544
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 3: uh some guests. The race. It's time to guess the race.

1545
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 3: It's time. It's time to guess the race. It's time

1546
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: to guess the race. That's right, it's guess the race.

1547
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 3: Time the game. We go around the globe, find different

1548
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,839
Speaker 3: articles and guess the race of the people involved. Karen

1549
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 3: plays alone, she is racist, and then the chat room

1550
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 3: plays along and they are racist and not in the

1551
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: like unintentional Starbucks way. Well you thought someone said monkey,

1552
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 3: but their name was Monique. I'm talking about d These

1553
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: niggas races for real and will be calling people monkey

1554
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 3: and they mean it, but had a nerve to be

1555
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 3: in a chat mad at me because I said it

1556
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: was just a twenty five. I think the person actually

1557
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,520
Speaker 3: made a mistake. And meanwhile they slathering at the motherfucking

1558
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: mouth to call somebody a moon cricket. Right the fuck now, boy,

1559
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 3: I swear to God these people all right. Police identify

1560
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 3: third suspect in a scheme to defraud the vets, not

1561
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: the vets DVA. Yeah, the vets, you know, the veterans

1562
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: of the army on soon, not the like vets of

1563
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 3: like treating dogs shreport Louisians sreeport is Streport. Police have

1564
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 3: issued the arrest weren't for a third person accused and

1565
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 3: the scheme of defraud to defraud veterans out of more

1566
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 3: than a million dollars. Oh Eric Aloud is one of

1567
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 3: on fifty eight counsel identity there fifth day go Damn

1568
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 3: arrest warrants have been issued Monday, following further investigation that

1569
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 3: led to the arrest of two women last week. The

1570
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 3: rest last month was Tsar Rajah Watkins twenty one, who's

1571
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 3: accused of using her position at a job at Teleperformance

1572
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 3: to gain access to the victims. You asked a bank

1573
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 3: account information. She allegedly sold that count information to the

1574
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 3: Stained Glass, the disdained glass.

1575
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 4: They're in the same place as the Pirate Monkey, not

1576
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 4: the Pirate Monkey lordship. Yeah, pirate monkey.

1577
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: Wow? Did you just say monkey by accident? You fucking racist?

1578
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: You know I'm right here. Oh my god, you just

1579
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 3: called me a monkey. No, no black and I'm doing

1580
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 3: the fight. You munked it, Donning on purpose. Dr Horus,

1581
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: you fired the prac rooms fired. I'm a fen I got.

1582
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 3: I'm calling the dudes.

1583
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 4: I'm calling the goddamn news black man.

1584
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 3: This white black man don't have no friends, can't even

1585
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,799
Speaker 3: do a podcast with his own wife without somebody calling

1586
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 3: him a monkey.

1587
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,480
Speaker 4: Apparently than not. It's a microaggression.

1588
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 3: And you make that shit.

1589
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 4: Since you said I did.

1590
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want the franchise to come down here and

1591
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 3: take away your life.

1592
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 4: Well, this franchise is broke, my nigga. Uh, this franchise

1593
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 4: is an employee of.

1594
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 3: One the But yeah, the stained Glass. That sounds like

1595
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 3: what's in the church, does it? The Stained Glass twenty

1596
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 3: one and the others, who police said use a number

1597
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 3: of taxis defraud account holders are more than one million dollars.

1598
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 3: Glass reportedly used the money to buy a home, expensive cars,

1599
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 3: and lavish items. Oh shit, why cans this charge with

1600
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy five councilf I didn't eat the

1601
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 3: who hundred seventy five and glasses chargers sixty five counts

1602
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 3: of identity there. Shreveport Police asked anyone with information to

1603
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: whereabouts of mister Eric Loud to contact them. Now they

1604
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: are all the same race. Karen gets the race, okay,

1605
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 3: the stained glass. I'm not sure how that one went

1606
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: over here, Eric Loud and Zarajah Watkins. Let's give Karen

1607
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 3: some time this one. Okay, she decided black? All right?

1608
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 3: Something about those names, I guess Elishah says, this is

1609
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: nigga shananigas. Tony says, three time employee of the month

1610
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 3: at Parateship Shipping, White, thank you for your dis services. Black.

1611
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: These some monkeys with a qui negroes going gang activity.

1612
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 3: Black Watkins is a nigga name I ever heard one? Uh,

1613
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 3: those sound like black names on the Monkey power Ship.

1614
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 3: Their names jiggers. Three blacks black three fourth, I'm gonna

1615
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: go black colored all the negros. Question three for it?

1616
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 3: Correct answer is and I think the vast majority of

1617
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: y'all said black. You got it right. One person said

1618
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 3: white though, oh yeah, that's his picture. And then I

1619
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 3: knew you notice a black story because if you google

1620
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: the women's names, their picture comes up from uh. If

1621
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, the image search says from lipstick Alley.

1622
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, at least one of one of the pictures.

1623
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 9: Maybe I had maybe it was the other one with

1624
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 9: the stained glass, but this is them.

1625
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, they yuh going to jail. I just

1626
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 3: go to the next one. So far caring is one

1627
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 3: and one, I mean one and zero. A man was

1628
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: arrested at the family Monopoly game turns of violent.

1629
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 4: Oh ship this does somebody have a boardwalk?

1630
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1631
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 4: All the deep blues.

1632
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 3: Okay, at the whole corner.

1633
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 4: Did they have the jail too?

1634
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 3: I'll wait until you're done. Keep going.

1635
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 4: Yes, I am, Yes, I am. The power place in

1636
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 4: the water company, the railroad track. Somebody got mad and

1637
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 4: turned all that ship over. You cheating. Don't be putting

1638
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 4: no more houses on.

1639
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 3: That The Tosa Police Department the rest of the man

1640
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 3: Saturday night after they say a family game Monopoly turned violent.

1641
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: Monopoly is the worst game for a family's Honestly the

1642
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 3: game only thing limit the only people that are good

1643
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 3: added the assholes turning you into a violent rent landlord motherfucker.

1644
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 3: Such a terrible game. Officers a call to a shots

1645
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 3: fired near Baltic Place and Mediterranean Evidence near Admiral Mingo

1646
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 3: just before six thirty pm. The call identified the suspects

1647
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 3: as John Armstrong. Said he chased her down and fired

1648
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: a shot at her and her father. This sounds like

1649
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 3: this was on Thanksgiving for y'all broke out the board

1650
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 3: games instead of just watching the cowboys like every other family.

1651
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 4: Said Oh no, but shit, y'all might shoot you. Get

1652
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 4: over the stack and.

1653
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: When police arrived there immediately took Armstrong and the custody.

1654
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: Investigators learned the family had been drinking alcohol and playing

1655
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 3: Monopoly when a fight broke out between Armstrong and his stepfather.

1656
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,839
Speaker 3: After knocking over the board the game board and turning

1657
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 3: over the furniture, they were told to take the fight outside.

1658
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 4: I was like, y'all ain't gonna be y'all ain't gonna

1659
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: be turning over my goddamn perking. Then I up all

1660
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 4: night making his motherfucking dress and take that shit outside.

1661
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 3: They probably was just mad. They hadn't the food wasn't ready,

1662
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 3: and it was eight thirty and at night, at night,

1663
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 3: the shit it was six thirty. They still hadn't eight

1664
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 3: And then they came out in the form of monopoly,

1665
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 3: angry monopoly on Thanksgiving, just no way to go out.

1666
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 3: Armstrong poured out the gun after getting the cut in

1667
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 3: the head. Well, how do you get a cut in

1668
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 3: the head? That seemed relevant. They might must have threw

1669
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 3: the thimble let his ass or something. Ah. He chased

1670
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 3: his stepfather and step sister down the street, pointing the

1671
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 3: gun at them. Uh. He told police he fired one

1672
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: shot at the ground. Officers did not find the gun.

1673
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 3: They believe he hit in the house before surrendering. Uh.

1674
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 3: The Armstrong was arrested and told and put booked into

1675
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: the Tusa County Jail. He did not pass go. He

1676
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 3: did not collect two hundred dollars.

1677
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 4: No, he did not.

1678
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 3: So he tried to roll. He tried to roll doubles

1679
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: to get out, but so far he's still there. Uh,

1680
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 3: I guess the race, Oh, care's going black for John Armstrong.

1681
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 3: We'll see what y'all believe in the chat.

1682
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 4: Uh only thing they was like they was drinking hennessy.

1683
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 3: Caucasian calamity. A white will shoot you dead over some

1684
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 3: land if it's Monopoly land. Tosa Watchman Saint Charles place

1685
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 3: e goal black, a typical colonizer, white parkway place white.

1686
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 3: Like a lot of whites going on and the guesses here.

1687
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 3: Chance Carr says, nigga to jail. Uh he landed on

1688
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 3: the on the free parking and uh they had some

1689
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 3: money for him to get his bail. But uh, I'm

1690
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: gonna go white. So a lot of people going white,

1691
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 3: I noticed, is getting less guesses as people trying to

1692
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 3: prove they're not as racis as Starbucks. Nigga is not working.

1693
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: Uh country ass white colonize is a correct answer? Is

1694
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 3: white not just kidding his black car? You got it right,

1695
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 3: All of your niggas said white, I said, white, are

1696
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 3: you stood? You stood your ground? You know what called flax,

1697
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:32,839
Speaker 3: just stood the ground.

1698
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 4: I was like, that'sund of like some nigga ship and

1699
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 4: all of them.

1700
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know why his mugshot is giving me

1701
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,799
Speaker 3: Jesse smo let vibe to the truth.

1702
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah that was my jail.

1703
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah that's terrible. But uh yeah shooting over a monopoly

1704
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: you hate to see it. Nothing tears the family apart

1705
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: like monopoly.

1706
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 4: Like monopoly, who know Dominoes and and space? Any of

1707
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 4: them games?

1708
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 3: Right?

1709
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 4: Just don't play them, don't play for money, and don't

1710
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 4: play it seriously.

1711
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 3: Never playing. Hungry, Oh hungry? All right, let's get to

1712
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 3: bonus round cans two for two.

1713
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 4: Yay?

1714
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: Why I am racist?

1715
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 4: How can I be racist about old body or old

1716
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 4: pain in my life? How can I call them niggas?

1717
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 3: Just call them niggas. Go skinny.

1718
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 4: Boom, big.

1719
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 3: High jumping, speed chucking three hundred and sixty degree basketball.

1720
01:33:53,320 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 3: All right? Charles why neck McDonald not why Neck, who

1721
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 3: rocketed the social media fame after an arrest in twenty eighteen,

1722
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 3: was arrested again on Sunday and booked in the Escambia

1723
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 3: County Jail. Charles Dion McDowell faces two charges, one for

1724
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 3: aggravated stalking and another for withholding support for a child

1725
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 3: or a spouse. He was arrested in twenty eighteen for

1726
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 3: a number charges, including fleeing the leading police and drug charges.

1727
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 3: Related to meth cocaine in marijuana. Since his earlier arrest

1728
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 3: in Rose of Fame, he's become part of the Shrimp Gang,

1729
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 3: a collection of online celebrities. He's recorded a music video

1730
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 3: with fellow Neck Means star Daddy Loanneck Guess the race.

1731
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go White Cares go on White guns on

1732
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 3: White Bull country Ship, Charles white Neck McDowell. See what

1733
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: the chat room believes?

1734
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: Now?

1735
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 4: You said you bug gotta say it black?

1736
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 3: Uh so, Oh, it's like a lot of people, are

1737
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 3: you know Cardashian looking neck black a necka it's a

1738
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 3: bee thick ass neck. Nigga black nigra. Uh well caring.

1739
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 3: The correct answer is, I don't know how you missed it,

1740
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 3: but you did it is black?

1741
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 4: Oh? Oh shit, y'all weren't. Lion is making like a

1742
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 4: motherfucker trade trunk. How's this?

1743
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 6: Oh?

1744
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 4: His neck is bigger than his head? What is happening?

1745
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 3: I was not expecting that some people got it right. Yeah.

1746
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 3: When I saw this, I was like, man, he got

1747
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 3: in trouble twenty eighteen, got in trouble this year. What's

1748
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 3: he gonna do next?

1749
01:35:59,200 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

1750
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Nobody like that. Maybe they'll let him go if he

1751
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 3: just gives them a full throat of apology, I'm saying.

1752
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 4: He can out with them small he is. He can

1753
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 4: also he can always say he didn't hear him.

1754
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think he gotta hold his head up.

1755
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's a lot of neck.

1756
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 4: Yes, that is.

1757
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 3: You know, he got all the jokes right. Oh man,

1758
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the final thing. Let's do

1759
01:36:47,680 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 3: some sword ratchetness and get out of here. M sword ratchiness.

1760
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 3: We go around the globe and we find different articles

1761
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 3: about the scourge or sword crimes in the world, and

1762
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 3: we try to spread awareness on our platform because it's

1763
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:33,919
Speaker 3: a very dangerous, underreported, under resourced area of crime in America.

1764
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 3: And it's sad that we don't talk about it, you know,

1765
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 3: all right, let's talk about it. Call a man behaved

1766
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 3: like a character from Joker film before a Semari sort attack.

1767
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 3: A Sydney real estate agent snorted a massive line of

1768
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 3: cocaine with a rolled up banked note and behave like

1769
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 3: a character from the Joker film in the moments before

1770
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 3: he elbowed one woman to the face and the another

1771
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 3: with the Samurai sword.

1772
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 4: Oh damn, you been thought he was gonna go some city,

1773
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 4: didn't he.

1774
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 3: Carl Howard, forty six, is facing a judge alone trial

1775
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 3: and NSW District Court, accused of violent attack at his

1776
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 3: home in Anadale in the Cities in or West in

1777
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 3: the early hours of February eighth.

1778
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 4: Laughing when they was talking to him, and shit, like

1779
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 4: the hell is this?

1780
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 3: Said?

1781
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 4: Way?

1782
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 3: Did they get a load to me?

1783
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 4: Uh?

1784
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 3: He asked, Freedd not guilty the chasm grievously grievous bodily

1785
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 3: harm with intent to murder and causing grievous body harm

1786
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 3: with intent. He offered this shit that he was like,

1787
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 3: why so serious?

1788
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 4: And then you just started attacking everybody.

1789
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 3: He offered guilty pleae to two lesser charges assault occasioning

1790
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 3: actually bodily harm and recklessly causing grievous body harm, and

1791
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 3: proxecutors rejected those of Friday. Judge Anthony Townsend noted that

1792
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 3: the acts carried out by Howard were not in dispute,

1793
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 3: with the sole issue of the trial being his intent

1794
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 3: at the time and the statement tended to the court

1795
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 3: on Friday. I'm gonna describe being petrified and running for

1796
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 3: her life after watching him swing the summer I saw

1797
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 3: to her friend. The man said she and her friend

1798
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,719
Speaker 3: had taken cocaine and drunk alcohol with Howard before gathering

1799
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 3: at his home, and then he started behaving like a

1800
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 3: little boy with a high pitched voice as he skipped

1801
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 3: and read. He said, you want to see how I

1802
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 3: got these scars?

1803
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 4: No, I actually don't. I don't want to see how

1804
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 4: you got those scars.

1805
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 3: She said. Howard grabbed a bag of cocaine, a bag.

1806
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 4: How much cocaine did y'all have? Uh?

1807
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 3: Poured it onto the plate on the kitchen bench, orted

1808
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,719
Speaker 3: a mask of line of cocaine using the note of money,

1809
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 3: before he tried to kiss her friend, who looked back

1810
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 3: toward me in a spiteful evil and then he looked

1811
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 3: back toward me in a spiteful evil manner. Carl continued

1812
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 3: skipping and laughing. Again. It said something to me like

1813
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 3: I need to kill you. You need to die. He

1814
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 3: reminded me of a scene out of the movie The

1815
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 3: Joker as he said it with a smiling his face

1816
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 3: and laughed and sang a child song. Oh what this

1817
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 3: really means? And this is sad news for a friend

1818
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 3: of the show listener Jail coved, but I gotta say

1819
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, unfortunately, this version of the

1820
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 3: Joker has surpassed. He fled his version of the Joker

1821
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 3: in Dark Knight, once again, making it not the best

1822
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,560
Speaker 3: combook movie of all time. Because if you can be

1823
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 3: surpassed by that bullshit and now people dressing like this

1824
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 3: asshole and doing crimes and they're saying the Joker, not

1825
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 3: the Dark Knight, the definitive portrayal of the Joker, I mean,

1826
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:40,560
Speaker 3: how much has that movie fallen off to people in

1827
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 3: such a short period of crime? And I love that movie.

1828
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite movies of all time. And

1829
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm heartbrokens JL honestly, you know not, you know, maybe

1830
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 3: not as heartbroken. He thinks it's better than like Black

1831
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 3: Panther and Sex, But to me, I think I think

1832
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 3: one of the greatest movies of all time period, up

1833
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 3: there with Black Panther. And it's sad to know that

1834
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 3: this version of fucking the Joker is the new fucking

1835
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 3: get dressed up in do crimes. God, that's not good.

1836
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 3: He rushed towards my friend as she crouched down to

1837
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 3: protect herself. Carl lifted the sword above his shoulder, above

1838
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 3: his shoulder height before quickly swinging the sword down onto

1839
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 3: her body as she screamed out Noah, absolute panic and fear.

1840
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 3: The force of them hitting her with the sword made

1841
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 3: me think she was dead. Carl then brought the sword

1842
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 3: up above his shoulder with his focus on me like

1843
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 3: I wasn't even in the room. I rushed toward the

1844
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 3: top of the stairs, running for my life. Both women

1845
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 3: managed to flee, receiving help from neighbors. The CCTV played

1846
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 3: to the court and Howard could be seen climbing onto

1847
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 3: the tray of a youth park at the side of

1848
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 3: the road and lying on his back as the police

1849
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 3: car drove passed, before climbing out and stumbling from the road.

1850
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 3: He was arrested nearby. Police body cam video showed him

1851
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 3: writhing on the ground making growling noises. They said the

1852
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 3: guys have some sort of psychotic episode, and a statement

1853
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 3: one of the arresting officers described Howard as gritting his teeth,

1854
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 3: biting his lips, yelling out nonsensical remarks, and repeatedly saying

1855
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you, speaking the police.

1856
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 4: From about that bag of cocaine he just snorted of

1857
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 4: course he's not in his right mind.

1858
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 3: Right, and if he would have done the superior Junker,

1859
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 3: he would have at least had some better lines I'm

1860
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 3: gonna kill you, I'm gonna kill you. He would have

1861
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 3: been like Gordon and Batman. They're schemers, you know. Speaking

1862
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 3: to the police from a hospital bed, Howard asked if

1863
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 3: the women were okay, and then sobbed, holding his hand

1864
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,799
Speaker 3: on his head, and said, I don't know what happened.

1865
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 3: Oh god, fuck, it's crazy. I'm just really worried about them.

1866
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 3: He later told a forensic psychiatrists He's been awake for

1867
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 3: seven days straight leading up to the incident, drinking alcohol

1868
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 3: and taking up the five grands of cocaine today.

1869
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 4: Fine, don't know how much that is. That shit sounded

1870
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 4: like a lot a day.

1871
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 3: He went through eighty grams in fifteen days, racking up

1872
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 3: twenty four thousand dollars of debt of cocaine money used

1873
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Tobacocain had to be a better way for me to

1874
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,879
Speaker 3: say that, Doctor Olive Nielssen, opining that Howard was experiencing

1875
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 3: toxic delirium from continuous use of a very large quantities

1876
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 3: of cocaine. You don't say, and lack of sleep and

1877
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 3: was most likely and capable of appreciating that what he

1878
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 3: was doing was wrong. What if that's how we find

1879
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 3: out really motivated the joker? Just lots of cocaine, all

1880
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 3: of the drugs. All of the drugs. Like, how did

1881
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 3: he get powers? Oh, he don't have powers. He just

1882
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 3: got that white girl. Okay, that white.

1883
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 4: Girl got him up, Like he just wied out and

1884
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:50,759
Speaker 4: push your tailed.

1885
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 3: Apparently he just does a line and then that's that's

1886
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 3: how that's the album. Yeah, Batman can be defeated by

1887
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 3: a fucking hype. All right, say that's it. We'll be back,

1888
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 3: uh probably next week sometime. We're gonna take the rest

1889
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 3: of this week off. Thanks for listening. As always, sign

1890
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 3: up for our black Friday special. You have any questions,

1891
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 3: email me the Blackoutics at gmail dot com. I'm getting

1892
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 3: your emails. I'm fielding it now and working on them

1893
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 3: and I appreciate y'all that do that. Until next time,

1894
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 3: I love you. Why