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Speaker 1: Here Tween go. This is it. Caught by Kurt at

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki and Bertrand Berry. And we have a last

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Speaker 1: second roster addition in here as Paully pencil Neck, Paulli

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Sea Report. Let's see here b right off

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Speaker 1: the top. More physical, more leadership. That's what Steve Kim

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Speaker 1: Some were unexpected. I think the word was shocked, the

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Speaker 1: word Steve Kim used when it came to the availability

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Speaker 1: of Rodney Hudson before he pulled the trigger on that trade.

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Speaker 1: Some decisions and expenditures and investments perhaps against the grain

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Speaker 1: the sentiment that's out there, and then some, as Steve

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Speaker 1: talking about Patrick Peterson moving onto the Vikings. The off

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Speaker 1: and we are here to cover it. The Cardinals Red

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Speaker 1: How about you tell you know here we are? You know,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was on the sideline, I

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Speaker 1: I'm in the huddle, leading things and hoping to get

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Speaker 1: know that's the way it goes. Next man up. You're

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Speaker 1: always one play away. And we thought this in the

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Speaker 1: pec and we're gonna have a lot of fun, and hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what the off season is all about. This

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Speaker 1: is why, truly in a lot of reasons, you know,

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Speaker 1: there is no off season. There's always news, there's always

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Speaker 1: seemingly something happening. Just give me a couple of takeaways

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Speaker 1: There's a serious need right now at cornerback. But it'd

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Speaker 1: of this offseason by the Big Red. Well, so far,

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Speaker 1: I've been really encouraged by their ability to bring in

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Speaker 1: where there were areas of concern. And so I thought

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Speaker 1: Kime executed the Rodney Hudson trade, sending a third round

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Speaker 1: just a number. Man. I feel like I have a

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Speaker 1: lot left in the tanking, you know, I still feel

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Speaker 1: feel young, Lakes feel young. You know, last year was

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Speaker 1: a difficult year for me playing with these different quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: coming off an injury. But you know, I wouldn't change

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Speaker 1: that for anything in the world. I think that that

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Speaker 1: made me a better person, you know, on the field,

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Speaker 1: mentally stronger. But I know I feel like I got

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Speaker 1: a lot more years left in me. Hitting free agency,

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Speaker 1: he was looking for a place that would fit his

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Speaker 1: skill set and it also gave him an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: win on Sundays, and for him, that was the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: And a big reason why he said, was because it

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Speaker 1: will be through or he'll be catching passes from, and

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Speaker 1: that would be Kyler Murray. You know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: this lady's going to you know, the quarterback who can

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Speaker 1: really create and I feel like he plays at a

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Speaker 1: very high level to where you know, he don't have

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Speaker 1: to sit back there. He can move around, make plays

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Speaker 1: on his legs and just get the ball out. You know.

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Speaker 1: Talking to coach Lewis and I'm pretty sure he's been

451
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Speaker 1: to a couple of practice and he said he told

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Speaker 1: me one thing but about Kyler man he can slay AJ.

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Speaker 1: He gonna be very happy and that coach Lewis be

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Speaker 1: trained Marvin Lewis, the former Bengals head coach who was

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Speaker 1: the man that coached AJ Green for so many years.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it's good to have intel on the inside,

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Speaker 1: even if you're coach Lewis and you know you're still

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Speaker 1: sort of on the sidelines, but you're well aware of

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Speaker 1: what's going on here in the state of Arizona. Queen,

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Speaker 1: you are a veteran and you've been around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You know talent, and you know guys that can play,

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Speaker 1: and you know how to bottom right out of the gating.

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Speaker 1: And Coach Lewis definitely has an eye for at body

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Speaker 1: talent and he he saw that Kyler Murray is the

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Speaker 1: good and of course, having the relationship that he had

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Speaker 1: with AJ Green, AJ Green was going to trust him

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Speaker 1: with his judgment and so it was really one that's

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Speaker 1: once he signed off and kind of gave it that

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Speaker 1: deal of approval, if you will, then I think it

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Speaker 1: was easy for AJ to make that call. And getting

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Speaker 1: back to what Mike was saying, as a veteran, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to be in cold weather

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Speaker 1: situations all the time because it takes you a little

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Speaker 1: while to warm up. As a guy that spent some

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Speaker 1: time in cold weather environment, I was more than happy

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Speaker 1: to end my career here in Arizona because going out

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Speaker 1: there with seventy degrees all the time and indoors on grass,

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Speaker 1: that is definitely a much better proposition than being in

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Speaker 1: the frozen tundra or being in Minnesota or somewhere where

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Speaker 1: it's cold and it takes the muscles a little while

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Speaker 1: to warm up. So that definitely is an underrated issue

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Speaker 1: that a lot of veterans that move around the other

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Speaker 1: locations definitely considered. Yeah, and if you're playing in the

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Speaker 1: cold weather city, you maybe you know, have a car

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Speaker 1: you can start up, and then you got to walk

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Speaker 1: from there to the facility. That's not the case here. Now,

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Speaker 1: you look at Green's sixty five career touchdown passes, seven

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Speaker 1: have covered least forty yards and thirteen have gone for

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Speaker 1: fifty yards. Now, again, if he's get in single coverage,

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Speaker 1: you take the fifty fifty shots with him, because again

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Speaker 1: his catch radius is very well, he's tall, he can

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Speaker 1: spot the ball in the air. So I expect it

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Speaker 1: maybe we will see some more big playability, not only

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Speaker 1: from him, possibly Hopkins if they want to double one

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Speaker 1: side or the other. Yeah, and you look at the

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Speaker 1: trickle down. Now you've got Hopkins on one side, Green

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Speaker 1: on the other, and according to general manager Steve Kime,

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk on the inside, depending on what happens with

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, but they believe Kirk might be better suited

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Speaker 1: for a slot position as far as a wideout is concerned.

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Speaker 1: So you've got your top three and of course depending

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Speaker 1: again on what happens with number eleven. We wait and see.

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Speaker 1: Is here we sit on March twenty third, not knowing

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Speaker 1: what Larry Fitzgerald is going to do. We have had

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Speaker 1: halftime here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast at

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Speaker 1: Go by Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, and of

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Speaker 1: course this show, The Cardinals Read Sea Report. Visit Easy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash podcast for more information. Because he

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Speaker 1: loves talking about the offense, be trained. We've got more

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Speaker 1: offensive line discussion in the second half of the show.

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Speaker 1: Right here on the Arizona Cardinals Rightdio Network. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are trading for Raiders Pro Bowl center Rodney Hudson. I

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Speaker 1: assume the Cardinals wanted him and it wasn't officially released,

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Speaker 1: so they snooped in there and said, hey, before he

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Speaker 1: gets the open market, before we have to, is there

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Speaker 1: any way we can trade for this nice moved by

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Cardinals are moving. Seismic shift is what the

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Speaker 1: owner of the Cardinals said a week or two ago

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Speaker 1: about the salary cap. They're making their team better over there.

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Speaker 1: You got to respect it. Around Kyler and Cliff Kingsburger

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Speaker 1: talking more offense, speed train, you got to love it

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Speaker 1: because you need to be able to score points in

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Speaker 1: this league. Pat McAfee on the Pat McAfee showed discussing

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Speaker 1: the acquisition of Rodney Hudson, the man in the middle

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Speaker 1: for perhaps at least the bits of a revamped offensive

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Speaker 1: line at least from the center to the right guard position.

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham is back at right tackle, or at least

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Speaker 1: you would assume so he would not come out and say, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm the starter. He would prefer to say I'm competing

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Speaker 1: for that right tackle spot. But yes, the offensive line

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Speaker 1: is the utmost important if this team wants to take

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Speaker 1: it to the next level with Kyler Murray in year three.

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Speaker 1: As we continue here on the Cardinals Red seawre Port,

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Speaker 1: Craig Riel, lu Mike Drecky, and Bertram Berry. When you

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Speaker 1: look now Beatrain at this offensive line left to right, Humphreys, Pugh,

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Speaker 1: Hudson still question market right guard will get into Brian Winters,

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Speaker 1: but there could be some moving parts there and Beacham

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Speaker 1: at right tackle. What do you like about what the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have on that offensive line. I like the fact

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Speaker 1: that they have experience. They may also have ability, and

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Speaker 1: you could talk about guy that we're here before and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to talk bad about them, but it's

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Speaker 1: an upgrade account. And I think Steve Time has done

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Speaker 1: a great job of diagnosing and what this team needed

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Speaker 1: as far as offensive line helping, and he went out

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Speaker 1: and address those needs. And when we start talking about

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Speaker 1: experience and just all around ability to do your job well,

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Speaker 1: that always helps your offense. And when you have those

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Speaker 1: five guys that are much more solidified, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: one thing to have them playoff season together, that's big,

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Speaker 1: that's important. But when you start talking about guys that

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Speaker 1: can employ really well and they're they're all sixteen games.

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Speaker 1: Now you have yourself a nice foundation. And you know,

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Speaker 1: meeting potatoes is something that I grew up on as

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00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: a as a lead of text, and I love me

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Speaker 1: to meet the tables, you know, but it's got to

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Speaker 1: be chicken because but when you started talking about that,

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Speaker 1: you want to build from the inside out, and I

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00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: thought the Cardinals did a great job of really in

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Speaker 1: that foundation. This offseason was bringing in those two creators well.

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Speaker 1: Beacham specifically played all sixteen games, started all sixteen games

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Speaker 1: last season, allowed only three sacks according to Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: and there was some question on whether or not he

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Speaker 1: would return to the Cardinals in twenty twenty one. But

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, there is a big reason why Beacham

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Speaker 1: is back wearing a Cardinals uniform. Sean Coogler is a

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Speaker 1: big reason why I made the decision to come out

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Speaker 1: to the Desert last year and really probably one of

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Speaker 1: the single most important reasons why I signed back this year.

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Speaker 1: Sean Coogler is the guy that stood on the table

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Speaker 1: and drafted in two thousand and twelve. I probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: play right tackle for another coach, just being honest with you,

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Speaker 1: that to me, MJ was the biggest takeaway when we

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Speaker 1: had a chance to hear from Beacham once again as

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Speaker 1: far as resigning with the Cardinals, because it speaks to

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Speaker 1: the word that you've been using a lot this offseason,

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Speaker 1: and that is relationship. It pays to have good relationships

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Speaker 1: amongst teammates, players and coaches because it does go a

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Speaker 1: long way. Because Beecham maybe could have gone somewhere else

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Speaker 1: and made more money, but he is comfortable here and

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Speaker 1: certainly likes who he's playing for and with, and he

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Speaker 1: was a pleasant surprise. I mean, you didn't know in

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Speaker 1: the whole situation at right tackle and Marcus Gilbert opted out,

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Speaker 1: and then you're thinking, all right, you know, Justin Murray

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Speaker 1: does have experience over there, and we know Murray's flexible

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Speaker 1: at guard to both guard spots. So yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed. And I think he's a great locker room

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Speaker 1: guy and I like to hear him the way he speaks. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but Sean Coogler every time we talked to his lineman,

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Speaker 1: and you know how I feel about him. And at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, I think they

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Speaker 1: they're disappointed how they finished last year, and there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why they went out and got Rod in the

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Speaker 1: Hudson and you know, Steve said, you know, he's been

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Speaker 1: the GM, you know since Spruce Arians and him came

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Speaker 1: in together. But he said, this could be the deepest

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Speaker 1: offensive line they've had, possibly since he's been the general manager.

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Speaker 1: And really, when you look at it, let's just say hypothetically,

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Speaker 1: you know, we look at the start five Humphreys, Peughs, Hudson, Murray,

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Speaker 1: and Beecham. Now you're looking at Josh Jones twenty three

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Speaker 1: years old, Max Garcia. He could play both Gardens center

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, Brian Winters, which we're gonna get into twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: Mason col twenty four, Lamont Gilliard twenty five, Josh Miles.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have sixteen offensive lineman unner and they're hoping their

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Speaker 1: second unit there will not be a drop off if

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Speaker 1: somebody goes down. Well, let's get into winter. Because he

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Speaker 1: was the most recent offensive line addition Garcia Rees signed,

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Speaker 1: but Winters signing to a one year contract. Eight seasons

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Speaker 1: are excuse me, eight seasons in the league last season

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Speaker 1: with the Bills, after seven seasons with the Jets. But

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Speaker 1: someone who is very physical six foot four three hundred

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Speaker 1: twenty pounds. He'll come in to compete for that right

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Speaker 1: guard spot, whether that is Murray, Jones or certainly Winters

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Speaker 1: who has the experience. Here's the general manager on Winters

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Speaker 1: and Garcia joining the mix. The addition of Brian Winters

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Speaker 1: excites me. He's a guy that I've watched for years,

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Speaker 1: dating back to Kent State when he came out, really

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00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: physical player, a small are, really good quickness in a

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Speaker 1: short area, and I think he does a great job

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Speaker 1: in pass protection. So he's a guy that certainly will

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Speaker 1: have a chance to compete. And as well as signing

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Speaker 1: back Max Garcia, who can play guard or center for US.

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00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: We hear that word once again, be trained pass protection,

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00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: something that Rodney Hudson is known for. Do we expect

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00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more dropbacks from Kyler Murray than

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Speaker 1: maybe we saw last season or the year before. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's definitely possible, and the better you feel

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Speaker 1: about that group. And the one word that I'm focus

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Speaker 1: in on is competition and the fact that there is

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Speaker 1: competition at the offensive line and there aren't just you

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00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: you just have to patch up and go with what

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Speaker 1: you got. Now, there's going to be real competition this

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Speaker 1: offseason as far as who's going to be starting on

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Speaker 1: his offensive line, and anytime you have that competition, you're

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00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: going to have guys playing at their best. And I

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00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: think the team ultimately vinecants from that because no matter

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00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: who is going to be in there, you know that

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00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: they are going in and they're giving you everything that

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Speaker 1: they have so and if something were to happen unfortunately

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00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: due to injuries or something like that, then we know

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Speaker 1: that they can come in and the guy that was

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Speaker 1: behind him is going to be playing at a high level. Two. So, competition,

645
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Speaker 1: to me is the word that I took away from

646
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Speaker 1: that whole statement from Steve Time because that's the element

647
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Speaker 1: of what the National Football League is at every position.

648
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Speaker 1: I know quarterbacks don't usually have it, but I think

649
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Speaker 1: every other position, competition is what makes the team who

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Speaker 1: they are. You're exactly right. You look at Garcia, He's

651
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Speaker 1: played twenty one games over the past two seasons, including

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Speaker 1: fourteen last year. He had fifty seven games in Denver,

653
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Speaker 1: and you're look at Winters. I mean, he's twenty nine

654
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: years old. He started both that left and right guard.

655
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Speaker 1: He's appeared in one hundred and six games eighty eight starts.

656
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Speaker 1: So again, these guys are veteran guys where you're not

657
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Speaker 1: relying on a young Lamont Gilliad or Josh Miles or

658
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Speaker 1: in this case, Mason Cole As Our producer Jim Mohundro

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Speaker 1: alerted me to yesterday Winters and Kelvin Beacham three seasons

660
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: together with the New York Jets. So some relationships there

661
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Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Yes, before you even gets to,

662
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Speaker 1: you know, an offseason workout, there's some knowledge of what

663
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Speaker 1: you're jumping into if you're Brian Winters on that right

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Speaker 1: side now left guard. There's certainly been a lot of

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Speaker 1: discussion about Justin Pugh. He's under contract but a high

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Speaker 1: cap number, so he was one of those names that

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Speaker 1: perhaps people thought, hey, you know what, maybe you move

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Speaker 1: away from him, or you asked to restructure. Gile manager

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Speaker 1: Steve Kin has been very consistent though, praising pu all

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Speaker 1: off season, and he did earlier this week when Pugh

671
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Speaker 1: was once again the subjects of what was going to

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Speaker 1: happen at the left guard position. I do see Justin

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Speaker 1: as our left guard, and I think he had hit

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Speaker 1: one of his best seasons as a pro last year,

675
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Speaker 1: played extremely consistent and really excited about you know, what

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Speaker 1: he did for us on the field, and Pugh wants

677
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Speaker 1: to be here because does we do have clarification now

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Speaker 1: that there is some restructuring done with Justin Pugh's contract.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Pugh went on social media to confirm the

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Speaker 1: news quote to clarify, I restructured my contract and took

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Speaker 1: a pay cut to stay with the Cardinals. I love Arizona.

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00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: I want to finish my career here. Now let's go

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Speaker 1: win a ring. End of tweets Betrand. It sounds great

684
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Speaker 1: because you want players to want to be here. Yes,

685
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: you do want players to be here. And unfortunately for Justin,

686
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: he understood the business side of it with his number

687
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: and what the Cardinals needed to do. Most of the time,

688
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Speaker 1: restructuring does mean pay cut in the NFL, and unless

689
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Speaker 1: you're a quarterback and then you're just trying to get

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00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: money allocated for the salary cap and and you know

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Speaker 1: you get that money in the form of a bonus.

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Speaker 1: But everybody else has to kind of look at it

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Speaker 1: as restructuring means pay cut. And I had to go

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Speaker 1: through it my last year or second last year here

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, and you have to make business decisions.

696
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: If you are comfortable where you are and you feel

697
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: like that team has an opportunity to do something special,

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00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: then you're much more apt and willing to do that.

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Speaker 1: If you don't feel like the team is going anywhere,

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Speaker 1: or you don't really love it where you are and

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00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: you feel like you could find greener pastors, then you're

702
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Speaker 1: less willing to restructure or take that pay cut. And

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Speaker 1: so for Justin Pugh, he's the guy that understands that

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Speaker 1: he's playing that long game again and he's looking for

705
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: not immediate dividends, but he's looking for the long term payoff,

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Speaker 1: which is the possibility of getting into the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: having an opportunity to go win a Lombardi Trophy. It's

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Speaker 1: the business side of the National Football League. But Pugh

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Speaker 1: did play well according to the general manager, and this

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Speaker 1: was earlier in the offseason. Quote I think Justin Pugh

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Speaker 1: had his best year as a cardinal end quote now

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Speaker 1: and p has acknowledged this much because the one knock

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Speaker 1: on Pew last season MJ was the number of penalties

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Speaker 1: for false start and four holding penalties, and that was

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Speaker 1: can't happen, especially when all of a sudden you're looking

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Speaker 1: at a first and ten to a first and twenty.

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Speaker 1: But Pew understands that first and foremost, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to belabor the point, but it is something that

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Speaker 1: he brought up himself before anyone could ask. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: either look at it. I mean thirty two false start

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Speaker 1: penalties most of any team. You know. Humphreys had six,

722
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Arnold had five, Cole had four, Pew as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: four and then nine total. Clearly that's got to improve

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Speaker 1: because they were the most penalized team in the league.

725
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: And you can't shoot yourselves in a foot. Again, I

726
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: have no problem if a guy's going to grab a

727
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: guy instead of getting Kyler Murray hurt. But pre and

728
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: post nap penalties, those are mental airs and the stalled

729
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: drives drives that we all became familiar with in twenty twenty.

730
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: The Cardinals a number of stalled drives and you don't

731
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Speaker 1: want to see that's certainly this coming season in year

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Speaker 1: three for Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: all right, Betran, let's talk some defense and the one

734
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: big hole on that side of the ball, cornerback. What

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00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: does this team do because there are well there are

736
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: still options on the table, and then of course there

737
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: is the draft. But as far as what's currently on

738
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: the roster's slim pickings, it is the Cardinals Red Sea

739
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: where Port Craig Riolu, Mike Dreckie and Bertram Berry all

740
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Speaker 1: year round. Eleven AM on Tuesday's talking the Arizona Cardinals.

741
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: As we get closer and closer to a full offseason,

742
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: hopefully still in the midst though of free agency. This

743
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Jones ready for the snap.

744
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: He's got it at the twelve yard line. Cards come

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00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: after it. He gets the kick away, It's high and deep.

746
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: Peterson backing up. He'll field it at the twenty run right, slips,

747
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: gets back up, runs a lot twenty five, thirty, thirty five,

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Speaker 1: forty Peterson, forty five, fifty Peterson number four time the

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Speaker 1: end of the record for a single season, takes it

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Speaker 1: all the way, but a touchdown, a middle return, Patrick

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00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: Peterson's bread and butter, right up the guts to the house.

752
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson dropped the sickle baby. The grim Reaper is here.

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00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: It is certainly going to be strange odd to see

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson in a different uniform in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: but Cardinal Vans you'll be able to see at p

756
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium as the Vikings will play the

757
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals this coming season. As the Cardinals and Peterson move

758
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: on ten seasons and it's unfortunate that things just didn't

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Speaker 1: work out. But as we discussed with Justin Pugh and

760
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Speaker 1: our last segment, sometimes it's the business side of the

761
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: game and you have to move on. And now the

762
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals gentlemen have to move on and look first and

763
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Speaker 1: foremost at the cornerback position because without Patrick Peterson, even

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Speaker 1: with Peterson back in the fall, this was a position

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Speaker 1: that needed to be addressed because right now, Byron Murphy

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Speaker 1: and Robert Alford the only two corners on the roster

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Speaker 1: with any kind of experience at all, something the general manager,

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00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Steve Kim knows all about. You know, every team has holes,

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Speaker 1: and one thing you don't want to do is you

770
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Speaker 1: don't want to panic and do things that are put

771
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: you in a tough situation from a cap standpoint. So

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to monitor the market. There's different avenues that

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Speaker 1: we can take, whether it's through free agency, trade options,

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Speaker 1: or even the NFL Draft. So three options there be

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Speaker 1: trained to fill what certainly is a needed and was

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Speaker 1: going to be a need heading into free agency, and

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Speaker 1: here we are one weekend. It still is a need.

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Speaker 1: It is definitely going to be a need that I

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Speaker 1: am thirteen that see what I did that there are

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Speaker 1: many options that you that you can go with as

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Speaker 1: far as finding that shut down corner, whether it's free

782
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Speaker 1: agency or the draft. I'm certain of it. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think of this as uh one of those needs

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Speaker 1: that we've talked about four years for the Arizona Cardinals

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00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: and when we've dropped to Patrick Peason, and he was

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Speaker 1: a guy that was a no brainer because everybody that

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00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: was anybody that that was in the know knew that

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00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: that Patrick Peason was a can't miss guy. And I'm

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Speaker 1: certain that there is a can't miss cornerback coming out

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Speaker 1: of the draft this year. So I think that that's

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00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: a great way to go as far as as looking

792
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: at at a guy that is can't miss and has

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00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: come from success and and and I used to winning

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Speaker 1: at a very high level. I'm certain that I can

795
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: I can come up with somebody that that that fix

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Speaker 1: that bill. So whatever the Cardinals do, I know that

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00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: they will make sure that they do their due diligence,

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00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: but but I'm certain that they will make sure that

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Speaker 1: they they find the guy that they can lock in

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Speaker 1: and plug in that position and feel the boy that

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00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: patch peops the left very subtle there be trained the

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00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Cardinals certainly, But are they certain that that guy will

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00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: be there at number sixteen? I guess that would be

804
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: my comeback and Patcher certain Now you certainly have Byron

805
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Murphy on the roster. M Jay, someone that the Cardinals

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00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: did invest heavily a couple of years back as far

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Speaker 1: as the draft is concerned, and there was some talk

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Speaker 1: that maybe you move him from the slot to one

809
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: of those outside corner positions. Yet it might not be

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00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: the case. According to the general manager, Byron can play outside.

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Speaker 1: He's done it before. You know. To find guys who

812
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: can play inside is a little more difficult than years

813
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Speaker 1: in the past. And it's a really tough position with

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Speaker 1: two way goes and the quickness that's required to play inside.

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Speaker 1: And we think Murph's one of the better inside corners

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00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He can play outside as well. You know,

817
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: in this day and age, as much as teams are

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00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: going three and four wide, I think your slot corners

819
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Speaker 1: is just as valuable as your second corner. I know.

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Speaker 1: We will sit there and say, well, your base personnel,

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00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: you have a couple of corners. The way the league

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Speaker 1: is going, you have to have your nickel or dying

823
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: package out there, so you know, they move him around.

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Speaker 1: To me, he's physical, he attacks the ball, He's really

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00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: good in tackling in the open field. So if that's

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Speaker 1: where he's has his biggest upset or upside, leave him

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Speaker 1: there and then try to find get another corner. It

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Speaker 1: is a deep draft a corner. Now. It's a matter

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Speaker 1: of what the Cardinals do at sixteen, how many come

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Speaker 1: off the board. There are some corners out there, and

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Speaker 1: just based on the information we got within the last

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00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty minutes, obviously with just some pew restructure,

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Speaker 1: may give the Cardinals an opportunity to go out and

834
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Speaker 1: try to find a corner. Now, because when you go

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Speaker 1: out and make these signings for Hudson and Watt and

836
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Speaker 1: aj Green and you retain Marcus Golden, that money drives

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Speaker 1: up pretty quick. And even be trained, if you are

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Speaker 1: certain that the Cardinals will draft a corner, you do

839
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Speaker 1: need to sign one or two or even acquire one

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00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: or two because right now as you look at it,

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00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: you have a hole at numbers one and two. As

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00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: far as the cornerback position is concerned, with our question

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Speaker 1: and looking at the lay of the lands where the

844
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: NFL that's concerned, you need three or four cornerbacks that

845
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: can go out there and play at a really high level.

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00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: Because you're looking at the offenses and the number of

847
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: receivers that are coming into the league and that are

848
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: being taken advantage of, you have to make sure that

849
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: you're able to match up with those big time receivers.

850
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: And if you have enough cornerback and enough pass us,

851
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: then you can definitely do that. Though it's going to

852
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: be various ways that they go about it, but again,

853
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm certain that there's one that they can find in

854
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: the draft that can come in and feel avoid very quickly.

855
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: And we are certained that we will be back next

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Speaker 1: week here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report. There is time,

857
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Bird Gang for this team to still feel the needs

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