1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance. On 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: this episode, I'm just gonna run through the gear I've used. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Now that season's kind of wrapped up. My Oregon archery 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: el hunt, my Western Washington musli or el hunt, the 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Montana rifle hunt for deer, as well as my Kansas 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: arch whitetail hunt. There's gonna be a lot of overlap 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: between the gear I used on a lot of these, 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: but I'll go into the specifics on you know what 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I used that was different from hunt to hunt, kind 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: of what my layering system looked like, maybe what my 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: meals looked like on these. I'm not gonna have a 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: guest on this episode, just gonna be me kind of 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: rattling off the gear that I used, how it performed, 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: and in maybe any changes I'm gonna make, So we 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of cover it all from archery elk out west 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: all the way back to an eastern whitetail hunt, where 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: you're gear clothing, all that changes drastically. But like every 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: epid sort of Cutting the Distance, I'm gonna start off 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: with a few questions. I went to the Phelps game 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: calls messages that we've got and pulled these out of them, 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: but if you have any questions for me or my guests, 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: feel free to email them to us at CTD at 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: phelps game Calls dot com or like where we got 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: these questions from. Hit us up with some social media 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: messages and we'll do our best to get them in. 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: So my first question was from Steve Barker, and he's 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: asking about broadheads for lower poundages. He mentions that his 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: wife and daughter both shoot forty to forty five pounds 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: and for white tails they've shot lighter seventy five to 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: eighty five grain heads with great success. And he's asking, 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: what would you recommend on ELK. So I want to 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of start off with shot placement, you know, very cliche, 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: but shot placement is ultimate and you need to, you know, 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: have an arrow. If you're going to go up and wait, 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: you need to make sure you know you got your 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: your the right arrow, the right spine on that arrow 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: to make sure it works. So a lot of times 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: I ask I would ask you, like, is there seventy 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: five to eighty five grain head doesn't meet all the 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: legal requirements for that western state or the state it 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: may not even be a Western state, but the state 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: that you're gonnahut elk in. If they meet all of 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: those and they shoot them very well, I would say 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: maybe continue to shoot those. Or if you're one of 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: those on the fence about mechanical versus fixed blades, stay 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: with the same weight, but maybe switch to a fixed 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: blade head as long as it meets the minimum cutting 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: diameter and so on and so forth. I'm a big 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: fan of continuing to use what works. Yeah, if you're 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: starting from scratch, some things I would consider on elk, 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: regardless of whether you're shooting a big setup like me. 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, and my big setup comes mainly from having 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: long arms and and you know, full length arrows. But 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: I would look at like a cut on contact head. 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm currently using iron rolls standards. I like the design 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: of them. I like, you know, the the tounel point, 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: I like how sharp they are, I like how they fly, 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: how they spin. But also if you maybe don't want 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: to go spend as much on iron wheels in the past, 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: I've had some great success with slick tricks viper trick. 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: It's also a cut on contact. That blade is you know, 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: in the elk before the farrell ever is it's already 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: cutting tissue, and it's got less resistance you know, to 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: some of these non cut on contact heads in my opinion, 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: you know, chisel trips, chisel tips, they talk about breaking 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: bone and stuff better. I'm from from what I've seen. 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick to cut on contact and then 68 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: get good penetration. And to get good penetration, I'm also 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: going to lean towards a smaller cutting diameter I'm gonna 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: look for. You know, I still shoot, as I mentioned, 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: the S one hundred, which is the standard iron will. 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I may be wrong, but it's either one inch or 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: one in sixteenth inch cutting diameter, very small. And what 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I really want when I shoot a bowl at any 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: angle is a whole in and a hole out. I 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: want that arrow to drive through as deep as I 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: can and ultimately hopefully give me, you know, two holes 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: to blood trails. So I've hunted with Kelly Smith, who's 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: my good buddy, Charlie Smith's wife. I've saw her shoe 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: elk and blow right through him, and I believe she's 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: only shooting in the low fifties. So I think you 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: stay away from those heavy front leg bones, heavy shoulder bones. 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Maybe give yourself a little more room for air behind 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: that front leg and make sure you're still hitting square 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: in the lungs. Don't risk it. A forty to forty 86 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: five pounds setup should be fine. You know, shot placements important, 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: but with that cut on contact small cutting diameter should 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: should be the trick. Jumping into the next question from 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Steven Adney, he's asking about overnight trips and what size 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: pack he needs. You know, he needs in order to 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: stay out for three to five nights at a time. So, Steve, 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna probably get a whole bunch of answers from 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different people. You know, they're the 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: minimalists that try to pack. You know, I'm not bringing 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: any extra change of socks, underwear, clothes. You know, I'm 96 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna have a sleeping bag and I'm gonna 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: put a piece of taiek over me and that's gonna 98 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: be their sleeping arrangement. So it really depends on how 99 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: how comfortable you want to be, how many luxuries you 100 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: want to pack along what your food looks like. But 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: I've always been of of the the idea I want 102 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: as big a pack as possible, and it's not so 103 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: much for what I'm going to pack in or to 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: let me overpack on the way in. But what it 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: does allow me to do is, uh, if I do 106 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: kill something and want to get my camp back out 107 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: on that trip, I've got additional room without having the 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: daisy chain. All of my camp supplies on the on 109 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: the outside of my pack. So you know, I'm I'm 110 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: hunting with a pack that's anywhere from sixty five hundred 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: to seventy five hundred cubic inches and people may say, well, 112 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: that's huge. I have yet to see my pack not 113 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: compressed down to two thousand cubic inch packs, and that's 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, for a couple extra ounces of material. It 115 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: gives me the ability to blow that pack way up, 116 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: you know. You add the snow collar on and so 117 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: I can pack my uh you know, really really kind 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: of push my pack up, you know, as I need to. 119 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm more of a simple guy, so I have one 120 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: large compartment. I don't have this thing organized down. If 121 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: I need to do any additional organization, I'll use different 122 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: dry sacks to to separate things. But for the most part, 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm just I stuff into the bottom. So I would say, 124 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: some guys if you're very very you know, space conscientious 125 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: and and ultra light and really packing the minimum. Some 126 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: guys can get by on a three thousand, you know 127 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: cupikinch pack for a three to five nights day. You know, 128 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: really all your after you've got your sleeping system in there, 129 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 1: and and it's really just adding additional food at some point, 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of additional fuel, maybe a little 131 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: bit of additional water storage. But that's really all that 132 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: changes in my overnight kit. My my base kit, whether 133 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: it's one day or five days, looks the same. I've 134 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: got some sort of shelter, whether it's a it's an 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: ultra light you know. I've been using a seak outside 136 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: cuban fiber tent, floorless tent that weighs, you know, under 137 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: two pounds. If I'm grabbing my kafaro saw tooth, if 138 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, with a stove, I'm 139 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: able to get it in five pounds. I've got to 140 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: put those in there. When I'm spiking out, I'm using 141 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: a stone glacier fifteen degree bag, so I get that 142 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: stuffed in there, a sleeping pad, and that's really my 143 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: base and then from there it's really just adding on 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: additional food. You know, on a longer trip, I may 145 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: throw in an extra pair of socks, extra pair of skivs, 146 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But that's really what my system is. 147 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: So you really have to kind of find out for yourself, 148 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Steve on what you're comfortable with what you need to 149 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: have in there. But I would say anywhere from three thousand, 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: but I would urge people to go a little bit larger. 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't take up much extra weight. You can compress 152 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: all that extra space, and I'm one for I can 153 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: save the weight in minimalizing my pockets. I don't need 154 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of pockets on the outside. I don't need 155 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of organization on the inside. As long as 156 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: everything can fit in there, I'm gonna dump all that 157 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: when I get to camp anyways and have all kinds 158 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: of room, you know, I can use them zip block 159 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: bags or whatever to separate other stuff. And that's really 160 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: my my simplified system for for overnight trips. And you know, 161 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: we've packed in anywhere from you know, one night to 162 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: ten night, and I'm using that same pack for everything. 163 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: You know, there there's we'll get into it a little 164 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: bit here as I as I talk about what pack 165 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: I use on these hunts and why, But I'm really 166 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: looking for other things, like, you know, can the suspension 167 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: all the wait comfortably? You know some of those things. 168 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Can I get it all in there for my pack out? 169 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, anywhere from you know, some guys can make 170 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: it even smaller than three thousand, but I would say 171 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: for the majority, you're gonna be at that three thousand 172 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: and thirty five hundred cubic inch all the way up 173 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: to the larger, you know, expeditions style packs. But uh yeah, 174 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: you just have to kind of test and find for yourself. 175 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: But once again, once again, once again, if you have 176 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: questions for me or my guests, please email us at 177 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: CTD at phelps game Calls dot com, or hit us 178 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: up on social media, send us a social message, and 179 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: we'll do our best to get those on there for myself, 180 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: Dirk or any of our guests. So everybody nowadays seems 181 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: to be doing you know, pack dumps or gear dumps. 182 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: I just really wanted to go through I used quite 183 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: a bit of New Year this year. Some of the 184 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: stuff's been old, and I just kind of wanted to 185 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: walk through my four hunts, kind of go over the 186 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: gear I used kind of start to finish, you know, 187 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: and maybe some things people don't talk about or things 188 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: that aren't that glorified, but really just kind of go 189 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: through what we use. So my first time of the 190 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: year was an archery Oregon el hunt. The unit I 191 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: was in wasn't really set up to spike out in. 192 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: There were a few spots to spike in there, but 193 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to film in them, so it didn't 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: make any sense to to you know, spike in or 195 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: set up for those. So this is what I would 196 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: consider like a Waltint base camp. I only have a 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: twenty by sixteen Waltint which was set up for me 198 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: and my camera guy, so there was all kinds of 199 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: room we did. You know, we weren't worried about grizzly 200 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: bears or anything like that, so we had our cook 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: system inside that same tent. We had our table inside 202 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: that tent. All of our gear easily fit with our 203 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: two cots inside that tent. Since this hunt was going 204 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: to take place in the middle of September, we elected 205 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: not to pack the stove, which takes up a bunch 206 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: of room and we would have had to gather firewood 207 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: and whatnot. We figured with the temps we wouldn't need 208 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: a wood wood stove. About day five or six, when 209 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: the temperature started to drop into the freezing, we were 210 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: starting to wish we had a stove. And it's not 211 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: so much that your sleeping bags weren't able to handle it. 212 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: It was just, you know, it wasn't as fun, you know, 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: sitting around in the wall tent and all of your 214 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: your puffy coats and whatnot, trying to get ready for bed, 215 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: or just to sit up and have a conversation, you know, 216 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: about the hunts, that day's hunts, tomorrow's hunts, just conversations 217 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: in general. What we used to cook on that one. So, 218 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of our hunts were back packing. 219 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: You see a lot of the jet boils or the 220 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: MSR reactor stoves or whatever little system we use with 221 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: the iso buttane. On this one, knowing that we were 222 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: gonna have a base camp, we we grabbed a five 223 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: gallon bottle of propane and we just packed along a 224 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: two burner camp chef stove to be used on this hunt. 225 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: And rather than have to have a bunch of pans 226 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: and cleaning them, we elected to just have the griddle insert. 227 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: So this is what I use on all of my 228 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: my trips to the dunes with the family. We do 229 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: a lot of cooking on this. It's easy, it's simple. 230 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: You know. Around home we use a blackstone, but you know, 231 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: we're camping. The camp chef's a little more durable and 232 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't care as much about it breaks down a 233 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: little bit easier, so we just throw the camp chef 234 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: in the back of the truck. It's kind of indestructible, 235 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: always reliable. So yeah, just use that camp chef for 236 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: all of our cooking. It got a little boring. It 237 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of uh, you know, burgers and hot 238 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: dogs and uh you know brought worst and then we'd 239 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: go back through burgers. We did have steaks one night 240 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: and uh my camera guy Dave's brought some brisket for 241 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: the first night, so we switched it up. But it 242 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: was a lot of canned vegetables, you know, burgers and 243 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that, which was which was plenty for us 244 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: as far as food on a normal hunt. On a 245 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: normal year, I eat a lot of just whatever, you know, uh, 246 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: you know the Belvida breakfast bars, you know, any of 247 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: those you know, nice bars, any kind of just glued 248 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: together corn syrup tight bars seemed to kind of fill 249 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: my pack. This year, I went a little bit different direction. 250 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: I was trying to eat a little bit more healthy, 251 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: try to get a little bit more fat me and 252 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: a little bit less quick carbs. So a lot of 253 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: what I ate this year was a lot of keto 254 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: nut mixes, a lot of bags of nuts. We brought 255 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: some like hard parmesan cheese. There were some ultrafat packets 256 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: that used to be like f bomb packets, but now 257 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: they're like ultrafat packs, which is like a macadamia nut 258 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: mixed with some with some coconut oil, you know, heavy 259 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: calorie type stuff. A lot of meat sticks, so I 260 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: bought a lot of There's a Bavarian meats company. They 261 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: make these little short Lndieger's, like two in a bag. 262 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: I'd throw one or two of those packages in my 263 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: pack every day and then really just kind of really 264 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: boring food selection, but kind of just grinded it through 265 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: the hunts with just minimal you know land Dieger meat sticks, 266 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: nut you know, bags and nuts. And then I was 267 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: eating I don't remember the exact brand, but they're like 268 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: a baked protein bar you know, like sixteen the thirty 269 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: thirty grams of protein per bar just to it was 270 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of a little treat throughout the day, a little bit, 271 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, satisfy that sweet tooth, but that was really 272 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: all I ate through the day. And then we'd come 273 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: home and have kind of a big, a big meal 274 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: on the camp shift. So that was kind of my 275 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: eating a lot different than what you see a lot 276 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: of these guys pack or what I've packed in the 277 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: pass where it's you know, a bag of sour patch kids, 278 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: gummy worms, you know, whatever you can find and get to. 279 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Really just kind of went a different direction this year 280 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: and tried to try to be a little more healthy 281 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: throughout the hunt, and I see, I think it kind 282 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: of kept my energy levels higher and more sustained. Maybe 283 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't as good you know on a on a 284 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: steep incline or a quick run up a mountain, but 285 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: overall start to finish, I felt a lot better. We 286 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: mentioned our cots and sleeping bag and the wall tent. 287 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: So when I'm in a wall tent, I've got my 288 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: canvas cutter system, and then I've just got my Kafaro 289 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: fifteen degree synthetic bag. Kind of stuffed in that it's 290 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: plenty warm on a hunt like this, the fifteen degrees 291 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: is plenty. It does a good job keeping me warm. 292 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: The canvas cutters outfitted with four inches of memory film 293 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: that kind of lays in the bottom, and I just 294 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: kind of keeping an old pillow stuffed in there, a 295 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: real you know, I don't even know what it is, 296 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: a cotton pillow or whatever the heck. You know your 297 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: old standard cheap pillows are made out of and that 298 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: that system is great. I do. I do have an 299 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: old school caught. I need to upgrade to get a 300 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a bigger one because it seems like 301 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm touching all four sides of this thing. But that's 302 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: just kind of my system. I actually sleep better sometimes 303 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: on this cotton sleeping bag with the FULM system than 304 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: I do when I get home on my bed, so 305 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: real comfortable and just kind of makes it gives me 306 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: a good night's sleep. As far as when I got 307 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: to this hunt, you know, what was I going to 308 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: be shooting this year? You know, in the past, I've 309 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: been shooting some psc options. This year, I went back. 310 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: My good buddy Corey Miller is working for Black Eagle 311 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Arrows and Darton. I went to a three D shoot 312 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: with him and Eastern Montana and got talking with him 313 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: and Randy Kits, the owner of Darton and Black Eagle, 314 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: just a great guy, and we talked to them and like, yeah, 315 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I'll go ahead, and you know, I haven't shot at 316 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Darton forever. I've never shot a Darton, but let me 317 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: let me shoot you guys, got let's make sure we 318 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, we like them, and and so yeah, we 319 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: just kind of to try something different. So I ended 320 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: up shooting a Darton Vera City. I don't know if 321 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: it's Verocity or Veracity thirty five. Really liked it. It's 322 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: a little bit heavier than like the PSC thirty four 323 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: mock thirty four that I shot last year, but I 324 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: held the bow a lot better. Lighters not always better, 325 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to keeping a bow on target 326 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: and how much the bow's reacting. At least for me, 327 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I felt way more confident in this bow. The bow 328 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: shot where I wanted it to, and one of the 329 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: big bonuses it tuned up very very easy. Now it 330 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: may have been because I had, you know, Henry Bass 331 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: come to my place and get it all tuned up, 332 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, a great, great archery shooter. We also kind 333 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: of knew tuning it into into where the new arrows 334 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: were going to be, that there weren't gonna be a 335 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: lot of changes between a broadhead and we were shooting 336 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: them side by side as we got them tuned, so 337 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: right off the bat we basically had our bow broadhead 338 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: tuned as well as shooting field points great. We didn't 339 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: mess with paper, which is something I really liked. We 340 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: just went straight to shooting broadheads and field points and 341 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: got them to dial in. I really liked that system 342 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: because from when I switched from field points to broadheads 343 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: full time, everything was just kind of dialed and ready 344 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: to go. Really really liked that bow. Like I say, 345 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: it's a little heavier to pack around, but I will 346 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: trade a little bit of you know, in the grand 347 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: scheme of it. What's a half a pound a pound? 348 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: Even when I know, I draw that bow back and 349 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: in my mind's at ease because that pins just kind 350 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: of sitting where I want. Really liked it. Shot great. 351 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: We'll get to the shot on the bowl and you 352 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: can't ask for much more than that. At the end, 353 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: arrows I shot blacks black eagle, X impacts for those 354 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: of you who don't know, I've got a thirty two 355 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: inch draw and it's all of thirty two inches. If 356 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: bows would let me go farther, I could probably get 357 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: another half inch, if not more, out of them. So 358 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm shooting a two to fifty spine, a very stiff arrow, 359 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: and these arrows are full length, so I don't cut them. Thankfully, 360 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: the Black Eagle, you know a lot of times that 361 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: the imperfections come at the ends. Thankfully for me, the 362 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Black Eagle X impacts pretty straight all the way through. 363 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: So we just take a full ink shaft, get them 364 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: prepped up, and that's what I'm shooting. We add some 365 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: weight to the tip, so along with that iron will 366 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: s one hundred, I'm adding some weight to to the 367 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: tip on the insert as well as the the I'm 368 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: gonna get this wrong, and hopefully I'm shooting basically a 369 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: half sert. I believe we've got basically a hidden system 370 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 1: down inside that then attaches you know, to that, to 371 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: that arrow, and it's great. I can if I need to. 372 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't get too hung up on tuning my broad 373 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: heads or getting everything to match in. But but that 374 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: system gives me about two hundred and twenty grains I 375 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: think plus mnus in the front. So I end up 376 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: shooting about a five hundred and seventy to five hundred 377 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: and eighty grain arrow, thirty two inches of draw at 378 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: about seventy two and a half pounds, and we're shooting 379 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: at you know, mid to eighties. So I'm not one 380 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: of those guys that just chases crazy high arrow weights. 381 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: I build my setup backwards, so I look at the 382 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: bow's rated speed, know where it's going to be, and 383 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: then I just kind of build my arrow to put 384 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: me at the mid two eighties. I found mid two eighties. 385 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: Keeps my pin, my pin GAP's pretty tight, but also 386 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: make sure that tune in broadheads isn't too much of 387 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: a pain in the neck. And so just kind of 388 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: sat there my rest on that that bow is a 389 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: black Gold Ascent Pro. One thing that I do a 390 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: little bit different than others is I shoot all green pins. 391 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: I set up my twenty thirty forty for an one 392 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: to nine pin, and then I set up my fifty 393 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: yard pin as an nine all green. Some people are like, 394 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: well that's confusing. I just it's easy to keep track 395 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: and it keeps me honest. I just I have to count, 396 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, twenty thirty, forty, and then trust me. After 397 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: a while, it just becomes second nature. You know. If 398 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: you're Hayman thirty, you're using your second pin and so 399 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: on my fifty yard pins my slider. I don't think 400 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: I ever slid my site all year, aside from getting 401 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: my site tape set. So it's there, but I hopefully 402 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: never have use it, and I never intend on using 403 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: it unless the situation, you know, requires it. But for 404 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: the most part, don't like to mess with that cider. 405 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: I use tight Spot's new five arrow quiver light. It's 406 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: got the rubber hood with some cutouts on it. And 407 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: then for a rest, I had the rip Chord microadjust 408 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: drive cage, and for a stabilizer, I've got like a 409 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: ten inch spider with four or five ounces on the end. 410 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Really kind of settles my bow down for me and 411 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: balances out pretty nice. So that's really all I've got 412 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: going on with my bow. We got the Dart and 413 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: Varasty black Eagle arrows, iron Will broadheads, gold black Gold 414 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: Ascent Pro, We've got tight Spot, and then we got ripcord. 415 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Pretty simple and for me as much as I like 416 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: this bo, my ultimate goal when I get shooting this 417 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: thing is to have absolute confidence at any range that 418 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot an ELK that that that I'm gonna 419 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: hit that thing within that kill zone. And I haven't 420 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: been as confident in this in one of my setups 421 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: since I shot my Elite thirty five whatever that was 422 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: ten years ago. This is this has had me, you know, 423 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: very I guess my Voked thirty five from PSC I 424 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: was pretty confident in, but got really confident in this bow, 425 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: which is for me is ultimately what matters when I'm 426 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: out in the field. I know I'm gonna make a 427 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: shot when the shot prevents itself. So what's on my feet? 428 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: For boots? I usually I've had all kinds of issues 429 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: with boots over my years. I've tried almost every mountain 430 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: boot and then ultimately settled on Crispy brickstalls we've used. 431 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: They used to have the Black, which were like a 432 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: Flex Level five, and then they had like the Brown, 433 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: which I believe were like a Flex level three. Brown 434 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: was non insulated. Black had two hundred Graham's inslation. Well, 435 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: fast forward to twenty three, Krispy brought out a bunch 436 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: of new boots around the Brickstall series, and one that 437 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: really caught my eye was the Brickstall pro Gta. So 438 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: it has a synthetic a synthetic fiber on the outside, 439 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: same last, same everything else as a bricks all same 440 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: lay system. But we had a synthetic fiber, and we 441 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: also had the gore tex. And one thing I didn't 442 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: know if I was gonna like it or not, but 443 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: it is a light gray boot. They added two undred 444 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: grams of insulation to this boot, which for September August 445 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: September hunts. I'm like, I didn't know if I was 446 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna like it, but I didn't notice any issues throughout 447 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: the hunt. These boots were dang near perfect. We had 448 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: just a little bit of separation of the rubber ram. 449 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: But I also wore these boots for sixty plus days 450 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: in the mountains. You know. All over performed flawlessly. We 451 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: we did some did some touch ups with some marine goop, 452 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: cleaned them out, and they're backed as good as new. 453 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: Everything else on the boot held up great, So I 454 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: can't complain about about those. But while I'm giving you 455 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: recommendations on boots, I also need to caveat this with 456 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: do not take somebody's recommendations for boots unless it's like 457 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: maybe on the durability, everybody's foot's different. Everybody's got a 458 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: different last that they build their boots on. Even within 459 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: the same brand, Like all the boots won't fit the same. 460 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: They'll put one on one last one on a different one. 461 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: So that's take it for durability. But I'm not saying 462 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: that everybod needs to go out and try the crispy brickstalls. 463 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: But for me, a guy with a lot of foot issues, 464 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: they worked great. Maybe just as important as the boots 465 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: or the socks. What what you've got on between your 466 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: your foot and the and the boots. I've used to 467 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: be a smart wool guy. I've I've tried all of 468 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: these different brands and ultimately ended up on darn tough 469 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: full cushion socks. They they have a way tighter you know, 470 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: weave or a knit or whatever you want to call them. 471 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: They're tighter, they're more comfortable, they're more durable that I 472 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: just don't have heel issues, blister hotspot issues with darn 473 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: tuffs on, and so I don't know if it's a crispies. 474 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a darn tuffs, but whatever 475 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: it is, those two are going to go in a 476 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: combo and I'm gonna stick with them. So darn tuff 477 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: full cushions inside the crispy brickstalls are a month system 478 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: for me. What's on your back? We talked a little 479 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: bit earlier on one of the listener questions. I'm still 480 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: using an old school I've got a forty four mag 481 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: from Kafaru and I've got a Cavern from Kafaru, which 482 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: is about a sixty five hundred cubic inch pack. I 483 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: no longer carry a big hood. I found that I 484 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: just ended up stuffing it full of too much crap 485 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: that I don't need. So I just ran a Kafaro 486 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: Cavern big open pack and it works great for me. 487 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: And what I really like about the Kafaro is I've 488 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: been using them since twenty eleven. The suspension has never 489 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: ever let me down. Well, I shouldn't say never. I 490 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: had one issue on my Oregon Bowl in twenty one 491 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: where one of my load lifter straps had broke a buckle. 492 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that I couldn't get taken care of 493 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: with some five fifty para cord and then Kafaro took 494 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: curve of it right away as soon as I got out. 495 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: So it's not ideal to have equipment break. But I've also, 496 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: in whatever it is a thirteen years now, only ever 497 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: had one issue, and I'm not gonna say that it 498 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: wasn't mine, because when you switch packs around and have 499 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: to reconnect everything, I may have, you know, messed something 500 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: up on how I connected that loadlifter, but been super 501 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: happy with the Kavaro. You know, my packs squeak free, 502 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: which is one of the things that I used to 503 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: drive me nuts about my old packs, and then that 504 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: one pack. I like how it's organized. I've got a 505 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: spotting scope pocket on the outside. My tripod attaches very easily, 506 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: very quick to get in out of, and we'll pack 507 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: way more than I ever will be able to. Another 508 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: thing that I do when I when I have meat 509 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: as well, a lot of people like this pack will 510 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: separate away from the frame. I carry a one hundred 511 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: liters dry bag and I just drop all of my 512 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: meat into that dry bag until I get out, unless 513 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be a real long pack out, and 514 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: then I've got to try to figure out how to 515 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: get some air to it. But packs worked great for me. 516 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: As far as clothing. On a September hunt, I like 517 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: to be able to layer. And whether it's an archery 518 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: hunt in September, whether it's a rifle deer hunt in 519 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: ten degrees, I like to try to get by on 520 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: three lays, you know, three layers I like to have. 521 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Like in September, it's usually gonna be the wick against 522 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: my skin. If is it gets more colder, we may 523 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: move into the kiln or even into some heavier you know, 524 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: first light stuff, whether you know it's a furnace or 525 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, some of those other ones. But usually for 526 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: me it ends up being the wicic early season, and 527 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: then we go to kiln, you know. After that, then 528 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: I like to go with either a fleece or you know, 529 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: whether it's the origin hoodie or like the klamath over 530 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: top of it. And then from there I go to 531 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: the big coat, whether it's you know, for me right 532 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: now it's the chamberlain. You know, we're we're we're going 533 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: into that With those three layers, depending on how I 534 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: mix and match them, I should be able to get through, 535 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, any situation early season all the way to 536 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: late season. I was able to test out first Slight's 537 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: new pattern this year. The circle pattern kind of built 538 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: for new Western open environments, and I tell you what, 539 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: at least on the Oregon Elkin, it blended in great 540 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: with some of that open yellow grass more open country. 541 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm not real thick dark timber seemed to perform really, 542 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: really well. As far as my harness. You know another 543 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: sister company I've worked with Paul well before we ever 544 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: joined up at Meat Eater. You know, I'm using their 545 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: front opening bino system. On my right pocket since I'm 546 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: right handed, I've got my rangefinder pocket, and on my 547 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: left wing, I've got an E three pocket and they 548 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: I've got a little velcro strap in there and that 549 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: allows me to hold my thumb release. So I've got 550 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: my archery release on my left pocket, my rangefinder on 551 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: my right, and then my binos straight down the middle 552 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: optics I used. I use these on all my hunts, 553 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: a loophole ten by forty two binos. I used to 554 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: use the BX five's. They've got some new range finding 555 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: binoculars out now, the BX four range finding binoculars. I'm 556 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: still using some old prototypes that I was given three 557 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: years ago out the glass and I really really like them, 558 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: so that's what I'm still continuing to use. And then 559 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: for a rangefinder on the archery, I ended up with 560 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: the r X five full draw range finder. I love 561 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: that thing. It's quick, it calculates my my true horizontal distance, 562 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: and I can trust that thing whether I'm shooting hundred 563 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: yards you know, on a three D course straight downhill, 564 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: always seems to give me the right answer. So once 565 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: we did find some success on the hunt, my knife 566 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: that I use was a bench made hidden canyon hunter. 567 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: I like to have a big, heavy duty blade that's 568 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: that's sharp. I get in there and try to do 569 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: quick work. I used. I love, you know, havalons and 570 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: stuff when you're when you're caping or around the face 571 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: or the heads, or but for skinning quickly making sure 572 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: you're not cutting to hide, I'd much rather take my 573 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: bench made hidden canyon knife or those type of knife, 574 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, those five inch type fixed blades that you 575 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: can rip, you know, rip and tear and kind of 576 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: get through that animal really quickly. Maintains a great edge 577 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: and it's very very easy to sharp. And I also 578 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: carry in the same pocket a work sharp field sharpener 579 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: just with the you know, real easy to touch up 580 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: that knife and get things back to the way they 581 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: were to start with. And we'll talk a little bit 582 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: on the meal deer hunt when you're when you're having 583 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: some success and you're you're ending up on all of 584 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: the on all the processing. You know, we we had 585 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: to get through five six seven deer with those and 586 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: that work sharp field sharpener just works quick calls. I 587 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: can't I can't go through through what we use without 588 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: mentioning mentioning calls. So we release that new unleashed two 589 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: point zero this year. And while a lot of guys 590 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: like I still just love the metal bugle tube. I 591 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: love the ring, I love the residents we get out 592 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: of a of an aluminum material. So I ended up 593 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: sticking with our metal bugle tube this year. I threw 594 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: an easy sucker on form my external. I actually didn't 595 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: pack a Mini X. I don't believe if I did, 596 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: I didn't use it a whole lot. And then for diaphragms, 597 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: I ended up using a combination of the Pink amp, 598 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: which is my signature call the Green amp, and then 599 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: also threw in a Pitch Black two occasionally on that hunt. 600 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: So I don't pack a lot of calls, don't need to, 601 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: but that was kind of what we had headlight. When 602 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: things got dark, I was actually using the lead lenser 603 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: MH eight style headlamp. I like it because I can 604 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: charge it. If I get back to the truck after dark, 605 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: I can hit it up, hook it up to my 606 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: USB charger, get it charged up for the rest of 607 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: the day, and if I happen to be out too 608 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: long or can't or can't you know, get it charged. 609 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: I can take out the rechargeables and dump in normal 610 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: double A batteries and we're right back to going. It 611 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: also comes with the case that acts as a battery pack, 612 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: so when we're on at least for the first couple 613 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: of days, you know, if we're not using our headlamps 614 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot, I can recharge that thing, you know, three 615 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: or four times and without having to dip into to 616 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: the lithiums and get that thing recharged. You know, game bags, 617 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: everybody's what game bags you use. I'm like, I using 618 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: the sordid grab bag over all these years. You know, 619 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: I've got some Margali, I've got some tag bags. I've 620 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: got some that Loophold sent me. We've just got a 621 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: big mix of game bags and after washing them and 622 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: having forty different bags kind of sitting in the shop, 623 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: I'd usually just grab and they've all worked fairly well 624 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, don't have any complaints there, so 625 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, aside from that, that's really kind of the gear. 626 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: The main gear that we used on on this, uh 627 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, archery l hunt on X was used. One 628 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: thing I didn't mention, which you know, we did use 629 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: a lot of on X. You know, depending on whether 630 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: we were next to property boundaries, need to figure out 631 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: where we're at how to get access, so a lot 632 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: of on X was used to make sure we're staying 633 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: in place. And uh yeah it was that. That was 634 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: the gear that I use on that, And a lot 635 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: of this is gonna carry over. So then my next 636 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: hunt of the year rolls into like a Washington rolls 637 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: into my Washington muzzli or hunt really similar temperature to 638 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: Oregon archery hunt. So a lot of the gear is 639 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna stay the same. But one thing I do want 640 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: to kind of highlight is the muzzloader that I've always used. 641 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: The Traditions Northwest edition. You know. So we used to 642 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: have some stricter rules on traditional muzzleloaders. A couple of 643 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: years ago they changed those rules, and so this year 644 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: I was able to use a Remington seven hundred Ultimate muzzleloader. 645 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: For those of you that haven't seen it, I think 646 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: it's a short and three oh eight case with a 647 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: magnum rifle primer as your ignition system, and then the gun. 648 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: I need to be careful what I say. The gun 649 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: doesn't say it's designed to use Blackhorn too O nine, 650 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: but I move forward with black Horn two nine, so 651 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: I'm not endorsing it, not saying it's it's okay for it. 652 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: I do have a new breach plug coming for it, 653 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: which is set up for Blackhorn too and nine. But 654 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: I used that original ignition system inititional or that original 655 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: breach shot Blackhorn two O nine. Ideally you should be 656 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: measuring your powder by weight on a scale, but I 657 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: was using one hundred and five grains by volume, which 658 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't even want to get the math wrong. Ends 659 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: up being somewhere between like seventy two to seventy five 660 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: grains by weight, a fairly light load. But because I 661 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: didn't have the breach correct that stock Remington seven hundred. 662 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: Ultimate breach isn't designed for black horn two nine, and 663 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want a gas cut that breach. I kept 664 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: it pretty dang light, and then I this year elected 665 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: to use Federal Trophy copper borlock two seventy, very easy 666 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: to load, very very accurate of my gun. So with 667 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: all of that being set up, worked very very well, 668 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: and I'm actually sitting here holding one of the mushroomed bullets. 669 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: Performance was amazing on boat first bullet from long distance, 670 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: you don't quite get the expansion that bullet passed through. 671 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: My follow up shot from sixty yards mushroomed out perfectly 672 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: and was lodged in the opposite shoulder that that worked 673 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: great and you couldn't ask for a better performance on 674 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: the bullet We did recover h on this one, we 675 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: we a little bit different style. I haven't been able 676 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: to get an elk out hole in a long long time, 677 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: but this el cap and to die and some property 678 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: that we had permission to get to. So on this 679 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: hunt we used a retrieval vehicle which was we have 680 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: a can am which actually my daughter's can am Trail 681 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: one thousand. She likes to put around the yard and 682 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: go for little nature drives and whatnot. So we hooked 683 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: that up. We're able to get to that bowl and 684 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: ultimately get that bowl out hole, which is is real nice, 685 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's nice to clean up when you 686 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: get back to to the We have a meat shop 687 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: with an eight x ten you know, cooler and and 688 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: all of that. And so got it back to the 689 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: home and was able to break that thing down and 690 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: the can am came in real nice because the property 691 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: owner didn't necessarily want to take our truck out there, 692 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: but didn't mind if we had a small little UTV 693 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: and so that that worked out, you know good. But yeah, 694 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: everything else aside from that was very similar. The same clothing, 695 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: same boot, same pack, same everything aside from the weapon. 696 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: That one was right in my backyard. So you also 697 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: switched up camp and you ended up you ended up 698 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: just staying at home, and it's kind of nice being 699 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: able to come home, get a good night's rest and 700 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: then you know, get up an hour hour and a 701 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: half before daylight and get going. Next hunt on my 702 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: my list was my Montana rifle deer hunt. This is 703 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: kind of always one of those ones I look forward 704 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: to every year. It's always a great fun hunt with 705 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: my family and uh so this one on this one 706 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: we uh the weapon we ended up using the our brothers. 707 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: It's a custom built rifle. I used to be in Washington, 708 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: then went to Utah and now he's ultimately in Texas. 709 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: But we used in our brothers custom built gun and 710 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: seven short action ultramag. So I had that gun kind 711 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: of custom built from Mountain hunts, you know, elk capable, 712 00:35:53,719 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: shoots really well, defiance action, you know, uh, jewel trigger 713 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: proof barrel. And then all three of us ended up 714 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: shooting our deer with that same gun. All one shot, 715 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: one kill, very very minimal meat damage and a lot 716 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: of people are going to be surprised. A lot of 717 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: people don't like the one ady Burgers. But to this day, 718 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: with that gun, I've had very very many, very very 719 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: few animals make it more than ten yards. Most of 720 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: them die on impact, and if they don't, they pile 721 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: up pretty quick. So very happy with how that performed. 722 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: My wife shot her deer at five hundred and eighteen yards, 723 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: hit it perfectly right behind the high point on the shoulder, 724 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: didn't damage hardly any meat. My son shot his buck 725 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: at one hundred and fifteen yards with it, and I 726 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: shot mine at about two eighty all one shot one 727 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: kill and placed very very well one ad Burgers. We 728 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: reload that gun with r L twenty six. One thing. 729 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: We actually we reduce that load in the off season. 730 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: R L twenty six is an alliant powder and it's 731 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: very It's supposed to be temperature stable, but it's as 732 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: crazy as it gets at times. It doesn't like to 733 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: shoot in cold, doesn't like to shoot in the hot. 734 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: We've had pressure signs. But it does give you ultimate performance. 735 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: But we were able to kind of curb those issues 736 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: or kind of make them less of an issue by 737 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: reducing that seating the bowl a little bit farther and 738 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: that gun just shoots lights out. So yeah, we reload 739 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: that one top that gun off. That gun has my 740 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: maybe my favorite scope of all time. It's the Loophole 741 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: Mark five five to twenty five by fifty six a 742 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: thirty five millimeters two. That gun has tracked perfectly all 743 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: the time. It dials up where you want it, it drops 744 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: back where you want it. It's easy to get on target. 745 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: It's got a great eyebox, especially for me. It's maybe 746 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: not as big a issue. But for my wife and 747 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: son that are shooting the guns that also have the 748 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: cheek piece set right where it's good for me, they 749 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: can always acquire their target very quickly. And been really 750 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: happy with that scope number one. It's repeatable. Uh number two, 751 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: it's got some great glass in it and never never 752 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: let me down. So I really like that set up. 753 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: That hunt. I don't know if anybody have been in 754 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: Montana when it's uh after a snow or a freeze. 755 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: That hunt on a few days pushed my raptor to 756 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: everything that it had, you know, all four and we 757 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: didn't try to tear it up. We were trying to 758 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: sometimes just get turned around, you know, four wheel drive 759 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: differentials locked and you know, traction control off, advanced track off. 760 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: That thing with without a U t V or the 761 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: ability like that got us into some areas, you know, 762 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: even even some of the county roads were a little 763 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: bit sketchy. But that hunt ultimately dried out and it 764 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: became real nice. But yeah, I that one. We also 765 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: used the loophole spotter the and I'm gonna get this wrong, 766 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: the I use all straight. I believe it's the Essex four. 767 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Yeah, SX for spotter from loophold straight. 768 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's a great glass. Let's just sit behind 769 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: it for a long time, and uh, you do all 770 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: the spotting there trying to think if there's any other 771 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: gear on that hunt that we used a little bit differently. 772 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: It did start to get cold on that hunt, so 773 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, you start to I'm I'm a big cis 774 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: when it comes, you know, to to gloves, and so 775 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: I always end up I don't know, I believe there. 776 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: We weren't using the brooks down. We were using the heavier, 777 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: the alpine cold weather glove on this hunt. And then 778 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: there's I think I had the Alpine cold and then 779 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: my wife and son had the grizzly two point zhers. 780 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: Just we we added heavy gloves. We we were in 781 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: our chamberlain a lot more on that. And then this 782 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: is where we start to switch to the kiln series 783 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: from the wick. We start to go to a heavier 784 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: mid layer, and then we started to chain on top. 785 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: Especially when you're doing long glassing sets without a lot 786 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: of movement, movement really kind of seemed to be the answer. 787 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: Trying to see anything else on that rifle hunt that 788 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: we did a little bit different now. I think that's 789 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: about it as far as different gear, you know, same 790 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: thing boots. We were still rocking the Krispy brickstalls. It 791 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: wasn't that that twiner grams and insulation kind of kind 792 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: of knocked that edge off when it starts to get cold. 793 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: Everything else is similar those hunts. We we airbnb it 794 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: my wife and kidder along. I want it to be 795 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: enjoyable for them, so and don't get me wrong, I 796 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: like to to have a comfortable camp and be able 797 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: to shower every morning. So I kind of like like 798 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: those ones. And then just we just finished up our 799 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: Kansas archery hunt once again. Our biggest change is our 800 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: weapons kind of going back and then our clothing on 801 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: this one. So I went back to the dart and 802 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: Varasity thirty five, same exact arrow setup. Anybody that paid 803 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: attention during Whitetail Week, I did a little blurb on 804 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: the bow I've been using for Whitetail, and I just 805 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: don't change my Western setup. It's it's a monster out here. 806 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't need to shoot any faster. I don't switch 807 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: my broad heads. One thing I did run into a 808 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: little bit of an issue when I went to shoot 809 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: my buck. You know, you get in these blinds, whether 810 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 1: it's a tree stand, you've kind of got all kinds 811 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: of room. You're in a blind, You've got limitations. You know. 812 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: I'd always draw my bow. Sometimes my elbow would hit. 813 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: And one thing that happened right when I was going 814 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: to shoot my buck this year is I've got that 815 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: ten inch spider stabilizer on it. Sometimes it's hard to 816 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: draw your boat. You know, you got your arrow kind 817 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: of hanging out the windows even to get your bow drawn, 818 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: just so things aren't in the way. And I didn't 819 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 1: realize my ten inch stabilizer was going to hit off 820 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: of the windowsill the inside. And so next year I 821 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: may look at before I go to whitetail hunt, coming 822 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: up with a different stabilizer system, you know that maybe 823 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: has more weight but on a shorter bar, something to 824 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: that effect, to prevent, you know, any of that from happening. 825 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: I've never felt cold enough yet that I couldn't draw 826 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: my boat back. You know, even when I do get chilli, 827 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: I I kind of practice make sure I get my 828 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: boat back, and I haven't had any issues yet. So 829 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: knock on wood that that nothing all happen there So 830 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: clothing changes up a lot when I'm not Western hunting, 831 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 1: when I can't get up and walk and go to 832 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: to warm myself up or or you know, create some 833 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: of my own heat you're stuck in a tree stand. 834 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: So one thing that I did this year, you know, 835 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: last year it was really really cold and I kind 836 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: of barely just got buy on my Solitude set up. 837 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: So this year the Solitude kit worked great. You know 838 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: in that forties I would say forties, the thirties on 839 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: that one, I would put my Kiln hoodie on on 840 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: the bass layer. I would wear my Source jacket over it, 841 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: and then I would play with zipping or unzipping or 842 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: walking to my stand without my Solitude coat on. But 843 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: then I'd have my Solitude bibs on for the majority 844 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: of the hunt. One thing I also change up all 845 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: my white toe hunts is my boot system. Those those 846 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: crispy mountain boots. Even two hundred grams installations just aren't 847 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna cut it. So I've got some lacrosse. I can't 848 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: even I believe there are sixteen one hundred grams and insulation. 849 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: And let me, I'm actually searching Google right here while 850 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking at it. I believe they're the Alpha 851 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: Burley pros that are in Yeah, Alpha Burley Pro sixteen 852 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: hundred grams in first light cipher. I believe, so where 853 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: those and I also just wore my darn tuffs in 854 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: those and they seem to be enough to get me 855 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: through those thirty to forty degree days. Yeah, I mean 856 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: we used We used quite a few Summit tree stands. 857 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: We used a lot of Millennium tree stands. You know 858 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: a lot of these are already set up on the hunt. 859 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: My buddy Randy that owns the proper, but he's also 860 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: got some red neck blind set up. You know, we're 861 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: using Summit harnesses, safety harnesses on those hunts. We did 862 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: add to Dave Smith decoy. I don't know it's one 863 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: of the bucks. I don't know if it's like a 864 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't know the exact name of it, but uh, 865 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: it worked on a couple sites. We've had some bucks 866 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: coming bristled up. But there are times where you know, 867 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: maybe some smaller deer, some dozeddn't necessarily like it when 868 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: they kind of show up out of the blue. So 869 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: it worked on the bucks that it was meant to 870 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: work on, but kind of you know, was a little 871 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: suspect to some of the gear that didn't want to 872 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: see that buck that close to the stands. But uh yeah, 873 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: Dirk had some better success with it than I did, 874 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: and and some bucks that really committed to that thing. Yeah. 875 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: Other than that, that's kind of the gear we used. 876 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: We don't get too crazy, too fancy with our gears. 877 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: Kind of the same stuff year after year. There's not 878 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: a lot of major changes that I want to make 879 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: to my gear. I'm I'm I try to put more 880 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: attention on the on the hunting better and different than 881 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: I do and my gear. So that's really what we've got. 882 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: You know, the calls on that white to hunt, I 883 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: guess we need to talk about that a little bit. 884 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: I used the beta as well, but we also tested 885 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: some new calls. You know, we've got some new calls 886 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: coming out for twenty four with some pretty cool features. 887 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: You know. We also got to test our rattling bag, 888 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: which seemed to at times have gear running by us. 889 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: So the rattle and bag worked really well. But yeah, 890 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: that was what we used in Kansas. That's kind of 891 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: what I used for all of twenty three and if 892 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: twenty four seasons. Started tomorrow. I wouldn't hesitate to go 893 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: right back out in the field with it. There was 894 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: no gear that I used that I thought really really 895 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: failed me or that I wanted something better. So yeah, 896 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: thanks for listening, cutting the distance. That was my gear 897 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: for twenty three. Feel free to send us an email 898 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: to CTD at Phelps game Calls dot com if there's 899 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: any gear you want opinions on or like us to 900 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: test out or take a look at. I'm always interested 901 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: in what's new and what's out there and maybe something 902 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: that we're overlooking. But I appreciate y'all. Good luck if 903 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: you have any Fall hunts left, and we'll catch you 904 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: on the next episode.