1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Welcome in we have it feels like we got a 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: lot of awful stories sometimes that stack up, and today 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: is one of them. For many of you on the 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: West Coast. I'm Clay Travis, He's Bock Sexton. We are 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: here with you for the next three hours trying to 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: bring sense to an otherwise insane world. 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you spending your time with us. 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: As we sit here counting down the days until Donald 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Trump is inaugurated and takes back control of the United 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: States government. There continues to be activity on Capitol Hill, 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: a Republican speaker and a Republican Senate. We will break 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: down the latest there. There's interesting moving parts. But as 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure many of you have been paying attention to 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: since yesterday evening when wildfire started and then the winds 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: kicked up, there is just an awful situation in LA. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Lots of homes being burned down, many people being put 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: in incredible peril, and we certainly are following that. We 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: know many of you probably are listening on your radios 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: in the Los Angeles area to us right now aware 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: of everything that is awful that is taking place in 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: so many different communities out there. But we've talked about this before, Buck, 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: But I went away to college in Washington, d C. 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: I've lived in Nashville for the vast majority of my life. 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: But the city that I've probably spent the most time in, 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: certainly over the last fifteen years or so, other than 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: my home, is Los Angeles. I have a ton of 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: friends out there. I've spent a great deal of time 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: working at Fox Sports, variety of different television programs, many 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: amazing friends and family that live in that area now, 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: and so I know these area as well. I know 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 2: you've spent a decent amount of time in Los Angeles also. 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: But for those of you out there that might not 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: be paying as much attention or have not had the 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: news on this morning, let me give you a little 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: bit of an update here from the press conferences that 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: have recently occurred. This is La County Fire Chief Marony 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Anthony Moroney explaining there's over five thousand acres burned, no 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: containment that has happened so far, still two thousand acres burning. 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Listen to this as what it sounds like. This is 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: the latest in Los Angeles, La County. 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: The Palisades Fire is located in both La City and 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: La County. We have well over five thousand acres that 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: have burned and the fire is growing. We have no 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: percentage of containment. 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 4: We have an. 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: Estimated one thousand structures destroyed and also no reported fatalities 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: and a high number of significant injuries to residents who 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: did not evacuate, in addition to first responders who are 51 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: on the fire line. For the Eton fire, it is 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: located in both the Angelus National Forest, the Alta Dina 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: area of La County, and Pasadena. We have over two 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: thousand acres burning at this time and the fire continues 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: to grow with zero percent containment, and unfortunately, we have 56 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: two reported fatalities to civilians. 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: So that is the absolute latest. That was just in 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: a press conference. Here is the CBS News National correspondent 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Jonathan Vigliati explaining what exactly he is seeing in terms 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: of how rapidly this fire has been spreading because the 61 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: winds are so strong and so significant, carrying the flames 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: so many different directions. Listen to cuttoo. 63 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: We're here at the heart of the Pacific polisdays in 64 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: a neighborhood that is a total loss. You've got a 65 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 5: home here. I'm going to flip over here, another home loss. 66 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 5: Let me go over this way. Homes own this street, 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 5: con this one completely leveled. The firefighters here, they're not 68 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: trying to save these structures, they're trying to prevent these 69 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: flames from jumping to other neighborhoods. To see all these efforts, 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: in some cases, they're being carried more than a mile 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 5: in advance of these source flames, lighting. 72 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: Other homes on fire. 73 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: So Buck, we'll get into some of the responses that 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: have not been occurring at a level that Los Angeles 75 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: residents deserve here in a little bit. But for right now, 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: it's a true calamity that is befalling the nation's second 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: biggest city, and it is getting worse. It would appear 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: right now before it's going to get better, given the 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: winds are still whipping around my understanding this morning in 80 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: Los Angeles in a fairly significant way. 81 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 6: It's horrific, Clay, and people are able to see so 82 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 6: many different perspectives of this because of the instant connectivity 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 6: that we all have. The videos from inside of living 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 6: rooms as there are flames, you know, lapping at the 85 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 6: at the fence nearby, or at the pool nearby, from 86 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 6: people's homes. 87 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: It's very visceral. 88 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 6: All all feels too real for people who are just 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 6: observing this because of the ability that we have to 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 6: get those those real time images. The actor James Woods, 91 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw this. He had just 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: I believe, just finished construction on a home in the area, 93 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: and he had video that he shared of the flames 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 6: right right off his deck. I mean, this is what 95 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 6: people are dealing with, and he's not sure what the status, 96 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: you know, Thoughts and prayers to James and his wife 97 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 6: and family. I think James and his wife are fine, 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 6: based on what I've seen on acts. They got out. 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 6: But people have lost homes, They've lost everything in the homes, 100 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 6: thousands of them, and it's it's a tragic. It's a 101 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 6: tragic situation that's playing out. And I understand that, you know, 102 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 6: we don't want to politicize things. You don't want to 103 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 6: move into the Okay, a bad thing happens. 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Now, let me find some. 105 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: Way to assert how this fits into my own political framework. 106 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 6: But I think you also have to look at this 107 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 6: responsibly and say, is los Angeles prepared for this kind 108 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: of a situation, um, just a natural disaster. Is there 109 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 6: Forestry management in the state of California still a huge problem. 110 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 6: There are clips of Trump talking about this from years 111 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 6: ago where he's like, they're doing a terrible job. They 112 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 6: won't clear the underbrush because of the environmentalists, and then 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 6: it just burns too hot and too fast and it's 114 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: too dangerous. I mean there's and I even gotten to 115 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 6: the mayor of. 116 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: Last what I think we should play. The mayor of 117 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles is gone. For those of you out there 118 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: who do not know, there was a highly contested mayoral 119 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: race in Los Angeles between two Democrats. So this is 120 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: a Democrat battle, Rick Caruso, who is a very successful 121 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: billionaire developer, and Karen Bass. Karen Bass won. She's in Ghana. 122 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a sect. Yes, Africa right 123 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: now watching the Ghana East president be inaugurated supposedly, so 124 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: she's not even a present. But here is Rick Caruso saying, 125 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: this is on Fox eleven News, that there's no water 126 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: coming out of the fire hydrants. They have not done 127 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: the appropriate prep to be able to handle something like this. 128 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Listen to cut five. 129 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 7: What is most concerning to me is our first responders, 130 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 7: in our firefighters who are trying to battle this. There's 131 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 7: no water in the Palifate. There's no water coming out 132 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 7: of the fire hydrant. This is an absolute mismanagement by 133 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 7: the city, not the firefighter's fault, but it's other city. 134 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 7: And I'm going to be very honest. We've got a 135 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 7: mayor that's out of the country, and we've got a 136 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 7: city that's burning, and there's no resources to put out fires. 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 7: So if you look at your pictures, you don't see 138 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 7: the firefighters there because there's nothing they can do. It 139 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 7: looks like we're in a third world country here. 140 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: That's Rick Caruso buck again, highly contested mayoral battle, the 141 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: current mayor of Los Angeles not there, supposedly flying back 142 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: from Africa. But what he's talking about. Rick Caruso, for 143 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: those of you who don't know, ran basically as a 144 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani Michael Bloomberg esque character, right while he was 145 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: more Republican, a little bit to the right, but still 146 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: many in many ways having to appeal to a Democrat base. 147 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: But this is and I know, and by the way, 148 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: if you are dealing with these fires right now, and 149 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: you are listening to us, and you want to tell 150 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: us what you are seeing. Eight hundred and two eight 151 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: two two eight a two. We have a huge LA 152 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: Area audience. I would like to hear from people there. 153 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: And to Rick Caruso's point, Buck, there are tons of 154 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: people out there. 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 8: I know. 156 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: We've got a clip of the actor Steve Gutenberg, who 157 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: I saw out on the street trying to help people, 158 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: trying to get people safe. Let's play that cut too. 159 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: There are tons of amazing people out there, but the infrastructure, 160 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: as Rick Caruso just said, is not allowing the good 161 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: people to do the most good. In other words, much 162 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: of the government is getting in the way of the 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: better instincts of so many people. Here's Steve Gutenberg one 164 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: more clip from on the ground talking about the challenges 165 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 2: in Pacific Palisades. 166 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 9: Here on Palisades Drive, if anybody has a car and 167 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 9: they leave their car, leave the keys in the car 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 9: so that we can move your car, so that these 169 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 9: fire trucks can get up Palisades Drive. What's happening is 170 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 9: people take their keys with them as if they're in 171 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 9: a parking lot. This is not a parking lot. We 172 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 9: really need people to move their cars. So if you 173 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 9: leave your car in Palisades Drive, leave the key in 174 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 9: there so a guy like me can move your cars 175 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 9: and get them up there, so that so that these 176 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 9: fire trucks can get up there. 177 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 7: It's really really important. 178 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for talking to us live sir. 179 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: What's her name? My name is Steve Gutenberg. Steve this area. 180 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 9: I live in the area. I live right up the hill, 181 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 9: and thank goodness, but I have friends up there right 182 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 9: now and they can't evacuate because it's stuck on Kalisa's drive. 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: So that is the actor many people will know buck 184 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: Steve Gutenberg, which he's not even you know, he's just 185 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: trying to help his community. But it is that clip 186 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: woind viral. You can see him standing amidst the fire, 187 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: trying to help people out and evacuate people who need help. 188 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 6: And I think that this is it's worth noting that 189 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 6: this is not the first of these kinds of fires 190 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 6: in even recent years. I mean, you can go back 191 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 6: and what was that I'm looking here, Clay at in 192 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: twenty twenty there were really rough yeah, you know, wildfires 193 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 6: out by this way. I mean, this is you know, 194 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 6: this is a fire season that this may be the 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 6: worst of any individual fire, but rough fire seasons have 196 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 6: been happening for years, and there is an issue of 197 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 6: forestry management and resources because they're putting right, if the 198 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 6: state of California is spending as they are, millions and millions, 199 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 6: I think they've even put you know, in the billions 200 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 6: toward this over time. Yeah, since twenty eleven, this was 201 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 6: from twenty twenty, they've spent six hundred million dollars on 202 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 6: fire prevention efforts. Now, so you could assume now it's 203 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 6: gone up considerably. It's probably over a billion dollars on 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 6: fire prevention. And you say, well, what have they been 205 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 6: able to accomplish with this? When the mayor is gone 206 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 6: and when there's no water in the no water for 207 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 6: the fire hoses from the hydrants, and the evac efforts 208 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 6: are hamstrung by a lack of necessary personnel. What are 209 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 6: people supposed to say? I've also seen, and this is troubling, 210 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 6: just to add on to all of this, that people 211 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 6: lost their fire coverage. 212 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: Have you seen this play? 213 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 6: There's these comments online at least people have lost fire 214 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 6: coverage for their houses in just the months before this. 215 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so people. 216 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: There are going to be people who have Now you know, 217 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 6: this is where now does the federal government declare there's 218 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 6: some kind of a national emergency situation. I mean, what 219 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 6: ends up or if you a federal emergency situation, what 220 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 6: ends up happening here remains to be seen. 221 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: But it's a disaster. 222 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 6: It's a mess, and if you know, first and foremost 223 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: thoughts in perse everybody affected by it, and we hope 224 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 6: everybody gets out safe, and then I think there does 225 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 6: need to be a conversation about accountability for the state authorities, 226 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 6: not the firefighters who are out there risking their lives 227 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 6: and taking in smoke and everything. By all accounts, they've 228 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 6: been doing incredible work. And the fire teams they have 229 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 6: are are phenomenal that are trying to fight these things 230 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 6: and trying to, you know, prevent this from getting even 231 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 6: worse than it is. But at the top management level 232 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 6: of dealing with really it's a forestry issue, right, I mean, 233 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 6: that's what it comes down to. I think more than 234 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 6: anything else, the dry kindling, the tinder, and the underbrush. 235 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 6: Are they spending enough time on this? Are they bowing 236 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 6: to the environmentalist concerns that just demand you don't touch stuff. 237 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 6: Those are valid questions when people are turning around and 238 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 6: looking at how could something like this happen and get 239 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 6: so out of control? 240 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: No doubt, And we're going to continue to take your calls. 241 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: We'll play some of these cuts again. To Buck's point, 242 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: this was a very foreseeable tragedy, and are the people 243 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles being served by the best possible representatives 244 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: that could be dealing with this tragedy right now? I 245 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: think the answers no, And certainly the mayor didn't know 246 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: this was going to happen. But why in the world 247 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: is the mayor of Los Angeles that an African inauguration ceremony? 248 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 249 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 6: I mean I would just also say, Clay, we know 250 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 6: that California is on a major fault line. You know, 251 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 6: I if California had a I didn't they just had 252 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 6: an earthquake pretty recently, right, But if California had a 253 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 6: relatively modern earthquake and entire buildings were collapsing because the 254 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 6: code didn't actually have them prepared for it, that would 255 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: be a lack of preparation, right. I mean, just because 256 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 6: something's a natural disaster, it doesn't mean that you can't say, well, 257 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 6: Hold on a second. Did you you know in Florida 258 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 6: we're prepared for hurricanes all the time. Doesn't mean that 259 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 6: it's going to be perfect. Obviously, you do the best 260 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 6: you can with the response, but you gotta be ready. 261 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: When Rick Caruso is saying that all of our fire 262 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: hydrants don't have actual, you know, water in them, I. 263 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 6: Mean it seems reasonable that the fire hydrants, yeah, should 264 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 6: have water in them. 265 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: That seems reasonable. 266 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: I want to know why that, Why they don't have that, 267 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 6: why they haven't collected the water for that? 268 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: All right, we'll take some of your calls on this. 269 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 6: We've got a lot of you listening California, so please 270 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 6: do call us, and our sponsor. 271 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: Here is Chalk. 272 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 6: My friends, you don't need a New Year's resolution to 273 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 6: decide that it's time to feel great and have as 274 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 6: much energy as you can get. 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We're talking about these terrible wildfires out in 290 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 6: Los Angeles area, Pacific Palisades, very well known, a very 291 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 6: beautiful area, very well known area to people that know the. 292 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles terrain. 293 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 6: A lot of incredibly beautiful homes, a lot of people 294 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 6: and the community there have been there for a long time. 295 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: Somebody who's not there right now on our way back, 296 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 6: I believe is the mayor of Los Angeles, Mayor Karen Bass. 297 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 6: This is Fox eleven reporting on this saying, while Los 298 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 6: Angeles is burning, the mayor, as Clay pointed out, is 299 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 6: in Ghana, Africa. 300 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 10: Play it you're wondering where is La Mayor Karen Bass. 301 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 10: She's been in Ghana, so she's apparently on her way back. 302 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 10: That's why we have not seen her on the scene. 303 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 10: We saw Governor Newsom at the scene earlier. We know 304 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 10: that President Biden happens to be in town, but we 305 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 10: have not seen him on camera. 306 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: With all of this, I mean, Biden anywhere near my lames, 307 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't know they can get away. 308 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 6: I think they know that no one, not a person 309 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 6: on the planet, would feel better with some Biden with 310 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: his aviators on and a mask photo op right now, So. 311 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I think I don't think they're going to do that. 312 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 6: You've seen Gavin Newsom, though he's starting to, you know, 313 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 6: as if him taking a photo of himself staring at 314 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 6: the fires from a distance makes anyone feel better. 315 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: This guy has mismanaged the state of California. I always 316 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: say it. I love it. 317 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: It's paradise in so many ways except for the politics, 318 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 6: except for the people in charge. 319 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you mentioned that Buck. 320 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: I was out driving around looking at Christmas lights with 321 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: my kids in the car recently in my neighborhood where 322 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: I live in Nashville area. 323 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Just recently, in. 324 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: The last year and a half two years, you have 325 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: suddenly seen USC and UCLA flags going up all over 326 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: my neighborhood. Californians are overwhelmingly saying I'm out. I can't 327 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: deal with what they're doing there anymore. And you see it, 328 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: like just with the teams that they root for out 329 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: of nowhere, we started seeing maybe the last basically since 330 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: COVID happened, people have been bailing on California. In fact, 331 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: I got some data. Maybe we'll hit you with it 332 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: later in the show. Did you see the U haul 333 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: data on what states people are leaving and what states 334 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: people are moving to? I thought it was interesting. Spoiler alert, 335 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: California for a fourth straight year leads the nation in 336 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: people leaving that state to go somewhere new. 337 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that hasn't changed. 338 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 6: We want to take some of your calls on this 339 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 6: eight hundred two two eight eight two. 340 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: Once something's on the Internet, it can be impossible nearly 341 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: to get it removed. 342 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: That includes your personal data. 343 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: If a cyber attacker get hold of your data tries 344 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: to use one or more of your accounts for their 345 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: own selfish game. 346 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: That's online identity theft. 347 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: Important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting 348 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: our lives is also important. 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Comedian He's going 365 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: to be on with us at the top of the 366 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: next hour to actually tell us what he has been seeing. 367 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: I've seen his tweets, he is in close proximity to 368 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: some of these fires, so we will get the latest 369 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: from there. By the way, several of you calling in 370 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: and want to explain we're we're asking a question. I 371 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: think it's a legit question. Unfortunately, one that is hyper 372 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: important at this point in time. You have fire hydrants 373 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: with no actual water in them. According to the man 374 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 2: who was runner up for the mayor of Los Angeles, 375 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: who would we played that audio for you just a 376 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: little bit ago, Jim and Megalia, California. You work for 377 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: a water company up in that area near where the 378 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: Paradise fire happened. Why would the fire hydrants not have water? 379 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: According to Rick Caruso, who was nearly elected the mayor 380 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: of of LA Area, what happened. 381 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: Well, what we experienced here was that all the structures 382 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: that burnt those were basically services that were wide open, 383 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: just running onto the ground. And then all the customers 384 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: that had put sprinklers on their roofs or whatever else 385 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: to try to prevent their house from burning out, they 386 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: had their services open. So you have water means that 387 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: are sized to feed the population plus fire prevention, but 388 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: all that together it overruns the system. 389 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: So it they just drained. 390 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: Your theory is that they have that some of the 391 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: people who are trying to keep their houses from being 392 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: burned down have just drained the entire water reservoir system 393 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: for lack of a better way of describing it, in 394 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: that area, so that there is no water for the 395 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: firemen to be able to basically pull out. 396 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: Yes, and with like with the town of Paradise losing 397 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: over fourteen thousand structures, they were throwing five million gallons 398 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: a day at the system and it was just bleeding 399 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: out throughout all the empty services. So there was, you know, 400 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: nothing that the firefighters could have done because there's there's 401 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 4: no water there. And it's not anybody's fault. It's just 402 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: what do you do put? You know, thirty six inch 403 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 4: water means down little streets. That doesn't that doesn't make. 404 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 6: Any sense than Jim, what do you make of Jam? 405 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 6: I've got a question, what do you make of the criticisms? 406 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 6: I mean, for example, we've got Trump put this out, 407 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 6: he said Governor Gavin Newscomb. Sorry, I'm just reading what 408 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 6: this is what the president wrote, so you know that 409 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 6: this is what he wrote. 410 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: Anyway. 411 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 6: Governor Gavin Newscomb refused to sign the water Restoration Declaration 412 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons 413 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 6: of water from excess rain and snow melt from the 414 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 6: north to float daily into many parts of California, including 415 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 6: the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way. 416 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: Is water mismanagement, from what you can see, a major 417 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 6: problem just leading up to I mean, not just because 418 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 6: of this event we're seeing, but is that just generally 419 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 6: the case that the state of California is mismanaging water. 420 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: I think there is some mismanagement, but you know, it 421 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 4: can come down to you know, infrastructure repair and all that. 422 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 4: But that doesn't seem to be the case in this 423 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: In this instance, it doesn't seem like that the infrastructure 424 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 4: is failing. It just seems like there's just no water 425 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: because it's just bleeding out somewhere else. I don't think 426 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: that the water company they'll have to investigate to make 427 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: sure they had you know, power generators that they're pumping 428 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: stations to keep water going while the fire is in place. 429 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: But it's, like I say, I think it's just. 430 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: Just it sounds like you're telling us it's just too 431 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 6: I mean, this fire is too big, too fast, and 432 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 6: you're gonna run out of water. I mean, there's just 433 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 6: no realistic way to have enough water to fight this. 434 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: Is that fair? 435 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: That's yeah, that's what That's what we encountered here in 436 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: the Paradise Micguellia area was it was just it overrun us. 437 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: It was just too much to try to keep up with. 438 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Jim for calling in bringing that 439 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 6: expertise from working at the water company. And stay safe 440 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 6: up there in California. Thank you, Craig in Columbia, South Carolina, 441 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 6: used to live in so cal. 442 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: What's up, Craig, Well, thank you, but thank you. 443 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 8: Buckley, take it by call. I live at Burbank, California, 444 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 8: graduated Burbank High which is in right next to what's 445 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 8: called the Verdugo Hill which periodically caught on fire. And 446 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 8: the issue is La City was written up by the 447 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 8: La Times within the last couple of years, where water 448 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 8: leaks from their pipes eight billion gallons of water a 449 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 8: year and nothing has been done to fix that infrastructure. 450 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 8: They were at that time. The issue was how do 451 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 8: we retain the water we have? And they came up 452 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 8: with something called shade balls, and I suggest you look 453 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 8: up with that nonsense. But the reaction is they lack 454 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 8: water every year. If you notice that the rose bowl 455 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 8: that it's always tends to be clear air every year 456 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 8: from probably early December to late February, they have a 457 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 8: condition called Santa Ana winds, which blows at about somewhere 458 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 8: between a low of thirty miles an hour coming down 459 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 8: the canyons from the desert, to as much as seventy 460 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 8: miles an hour. I used to be a flight instructor 461 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 8: in the place called Silmar, and we took off at 462 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 8: this time of year to the north because that's where 463 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 8: the winds came from, and I could take off in 464 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 8: a small Sessma. Usually took off at about seventy miles 465 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 8: an hour and actually fly backwards over the ground after 466 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 8: I took off. Oh wow, the winds book Yeah, yeah, 467 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 8: the wind blow that strong below the canyon. So if 468 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 8: you have a fire, okay, how do you get water there? 469 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: You can't? 470 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: Craig, why did you leave? Why did you leave Southern California? 471 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: You live in Columbia, South Carolina. You moved across the 472 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: whole country. Sounds like you love the place. It's a 473 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: beautiful place. Why was your decision made to leave a 474 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: lot of Californians. In the last four or five years, 475 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: in unprecedented numbers have been moving elsewhere. You particular why. 476 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 8: I left in nineteen eighty eight job issues. I was 477 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 8: at the point of my career where I was working 478 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 8: in banking, and I have one career next. My next 479 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 8: career job was to go back to work in the headquarters, 480 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 8: and I detested that, so I left banking completely. I 481 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 8: went to work for my largest customer, who had a 482 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 8: plant in Mississippi. So I moved and people around me. 483 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 8: I lived on the beach. 484 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I bet there's not a lot 485 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: of people who moved from a beach in California to Mississippi. 486 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm just guessing that's not a traditional travel path. 487 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 8: My friends thought I had lost my mind. Trust me, 488 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 8: they all said, what, You're going to Mississippi. Yes, And 489 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 8: I lived about three hundred two hundred miles from the 490 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 8: ocean in Mississippi. I eventually built a house on a 491 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 8: big lake there in Tennessee, so I know both Tennessee 492 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 8: and Mississippi. I live. If you look at the map 493 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 8: the state of Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, the state lines all 494 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 8: intersected about a mile from the house at the lake 495 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 8: I lived out then I've been from there to Baltimore, 496 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 8: and I moved here to South Carolina about twenty seven 497 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 8: years ago. Never look back. In fact, South Carolina today 498 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 8: reminds me of what California was like back in the 499 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 8: early sixties. So, I mean, it's just crazy what's going on. 500 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 8: But and I do see a lot of California license 501 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 8: plate yeah, which is even more hilarious. But the issue 502 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 8: out there really is more management of infrastructure. It's not 503 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 8: rocket science. The place used to be called a valley 504 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 8: of smokes by the Indians. Why because it was always 505 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 8: forest fires. Oh okay, what do you need to do? 506 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 8: Clean out the deadwood? And that's been prohibited for decades. 507 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 8: I think. 508 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we tray have a clip clip from Trump thank 509 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: you for the call, by the way, And it's interesting 510 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: he mentioned this book. Do you know the number one 511 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: city that people state that people are moving to according 512 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: to U Haul South Carolina, where he lives now, and 513 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: he said it reminds him of California and sixties. And 514 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: you know the number one state that people are moving 515 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: from California. That's a little bit of a tease. I 516 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: think we have the clip from Trump talking about how 517 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: they need to do a better job of trying to 518 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: pull down the debris in southern California to try to 519 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: stop the spread of wildfires. 520 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: Go we play that, guys. 521 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 11: I know Gavin's committed. We're all committed. I'm committed to 522 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 11: make sure that we get all of this cleaned out 523 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 11: and protected. We've got to take care of the floors, 524 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 11: you know, the floors of the forests very important. You 525 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 11: look at other countries where they do it differently, and 526 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 11: it's a whole different story. I was with the president 527 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 11: of Finland and he said, we have much different We're 528 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 11: a forest nation. You called it a forest nation, and 529 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 11: they spend a lot of time on drinking and cleaning 530 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 11: and doing things, and they don't have any problem. And 531 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 11: when it is, it's a very small problem. 532 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: I remember Trump getting ridiculed for this back when it happened. 533 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: I think that clip is from twenty eighteen after the 534 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: Paradise fire. Interestingly enough, and forest management evidently is not 535 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: as aggressive because of environmental concerns associated with bringing down, 536 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: as you said, buck underbrush in these communities, and so 537 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: it allows there to sometimes be standing brush, which is 538 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: oftentimes the fuel that can help to propel the fire 539 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: to become as substantial as it is. 540 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to join us, he with us. 541 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: No, well, at the top of the next hour, I 542 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: was gonna say, but Jimmy, one more call here, Jimmy 543 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: and Santa Barbara, which got for us. 544 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 12: Good morning, clan Buck. I'm one of the conservative holdouts 545 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 12: here and proud to be a resident of the state 546 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 12: that had Ronald Rake and as governor. We have the 547 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 12: Rake and Ranch here and the Presidential Library here, and 548 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 12: there still are a lot of conservatives in California, you have, 549 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 12: believe it or not, but we're trying to, you know, 550 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 12: hold out here, and we're just up against so much 551 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 12: government regulation and taxes that we're just we're getting caught up. 552 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 12: We've got to have a revolt. We gotta take back California. 553 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. 554 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, Gavin Newsom somehow managed to 555 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: stay as governor even after the recall efforts. So California 556 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 6: has got a ways to go, uh politically, And I 557 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 6: don't know, especially for people that live in some of 558 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 6: the major cities in California, you would think that the 559 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 6: mismanagement San Francisco, mismanagement Los Angeles. Uh, just the poor 560 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 6: leadership and the suffering of those communities that have resulted 561 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 6: from bad decisions, the crime problems, all this, you would 562 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 6: think that there would be a much greater political backlash, 563 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 6: in my opinion, than there has been, but so far 564 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 6: that has has not really been the case, although there 565 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: have been some movements toward a little bit of accountability 566 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 6: and more Republicans getting elected in California that resulted in 567 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 6: some house seat pickups. But you know, right now, Clay, 568 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 6: it just looks like, I mean, first of all, everyone's 569 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: still trying to figure out what's you know, what's the 570 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: full the full damage and containing everything and dealing with 571 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 6: this this strategy as it unfolds. But there is no 572 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 6: sense that there's competent leadership at the very top, and 573 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 6: that makes everything, i think higher anxiety and perhaps adds 574 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 6: to the sense that this is going to be a 575 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 6: particularly devastating fire, which is it's a tragedy all around. 576 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: To his point, By the way, Buck, in twenty twenty four, 577 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: California had six point one million Trump voters, so one 578 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: of the top states for Trump support in the entire nation. 579 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Obviously, it's a huge population state. 580 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: Texas had six point four million, so California had almost 581 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: as many Trump voters as the state of Texas. In 582 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty California actually had more Trump voters than the 583 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: state of Texas. Now, again, population numbers are huge, uge 584 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: in California, but there are still a lot of Republicans, 585 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: about forty percent of the state that voted for Donald 586 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: Trump in twenty twenty four. But yes, and obviously the 587 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: success that we have with this show, which we think 588 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: all of you in California, we have a monster audience 589 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: all throughout the state, is a testament. 590 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: I think it's our second biggest listening state after Texas. 591 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: I think Texas is number one, in California's number two. 592 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: I believe, I have to check. I think you're probably 593 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: right on recently, but. 594 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 6: I also think, you know, you see what has happened 595 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 6: in California, and it's fair to ask. I'm not talking 596 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 6: about the fire specifically, just the way that it's been mismanaged. 597 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 6: It's fair to ask what would it take for some 598 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 6: of these people in California to see Bill Maher was 599 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 6: asked recently would you vote Republican? 600 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: And he said no, never yeah, I sit here and. 601 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 6: I go, well, what, why do you think anything will change? 602 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 6: You know, this is a little bit of the definition 603 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 6: of insanity, right. The people that recognize that there's problems 604 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 6: in that state that need to be addressed, put the 605 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 6: same people with the same ideas and the same approach 606 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: in positions of power to handle it, and they wonder 607 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 6: why it doesn't get better. It's a one party state now, 608 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 6: I mean this is I know there's a lot of 609 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 6: Republicans there, but Democrats want a California America. We all 610 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 6: know that that's the whole that's the long term plan. 611 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 6: So you know, it's it's concerning. 612 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: Blue states and blue cities combined is disaster for voters. 613 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: You know, there are some red states with some blue 614 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: cities in that's fine. There are obviously a lot of 615 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: red states that are just deep red. But again, Californians 616 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: made the choice to have I think poor governance, and 617 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: they keep doubling and tripling down on it. Rick Crusoe, 618 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: I think we'd be doing a better job of dealing 619 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: with what is admittedly an awful tragedy and cataclysmic, catastrophic 620 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: event right now in the LA area for many people. 621 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: I think you'd be doing a better job in care 622 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: in Bass. For one thing, he'd actually be in the 623 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: country as opposed to attending the Ghana an auguration. I mean, 624 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: which is, let's be honest, super weird. 625 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: The people I just wanted to do the people of 626 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles pay for that trip? I mean, really, are 627 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: you paying? Question? I would? I don't know, but I'd 628 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: be very curious to know. 629 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, what in the world reason could 630 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: there be for the mayor of Los Angeles to be 631 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: going to the inauguration of a Ghana president. It's not 632 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: like there's some huge overlap between Ghana and LA right, 633 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they have some monstrous trade partnership. Look, 634 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: we all stockpile keepsakes in our home, items of sentimental meaning, 635 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: old photos, good examples, video cassettes, film reels, especially at 636 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: the end now of the holiday season, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years. 637 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: How many new great family memories did you make? Probably 638 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: a lot, hopefully a lot, and you probably made them 639 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 2: on your phones digitally, and you've probably been sharing that 640 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: with your friends and family digitally. Oh, look how much 641 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: the kids grew Here they are in front of the 642 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: Christmas tree. 643 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: This year. 644 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: Oh look, Grandma and Grandpa getting deposed with the kids. 645 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: My goodness, it's an amazing photo. It's an heirloom for 646 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: you and your family. But what about the ones from 647 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: the eighties and the nineties. They're not preserved because oftentimes 648 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: they're on vhs. They're old photos. They haven't been digitally preserved. 649 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 6: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got Cracket Coffee, 650 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 6: my friends, for all of you. 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Actually ran 660 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 6: downstairs to brew some in the commercial break there, so 661 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 6: I gotta go get it. 662 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: In a second. I want to also read this real quick. 663 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 6: We've got Adam Carolla is going to call us to 664 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 6: talk to us about what he's seeing and hearing as 665 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 6: a Los ANGELESO, and you know, just bring us. 666 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: Up a speed there. 667 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 6: But I read part of this before Trump's tweet. Governor 668 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 6: Gavin Newskim refused to sign the water restoration Declaration and 669 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 6: he said he wanted to protect it essentially worthless fish 670 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 6: called a smelt by giving it less water, it didn't work, 671 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 6: but didn't care about the people of California. Now the 672 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 6: ultimate price is being paid. Clay Trump not holding back 673 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 6: at all on this one, going right after the poor 674 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 6: leadership of California. 675 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it again goes into these 676 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 2: are imminently foreseeable fires. As awful as they are, we've 677 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: seen them for decades throughout the history of Los Angeles. 678 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: How is the City of Los Angeles preparing for them? 679 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: Do any people think that the city and the state 680 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: have done a phenomenal job it appears to be. The 681 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: answer is no. We're going to continue to update you. 682 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: We'll ask Adam Carolla about this. He's right there on 683 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: the scene. Will join us top of the next hour. 684 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you spending your Wednesday with us 685 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: here on clay and buck