1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the postseason edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Olana Rizzo. We're bouncing around with 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: the days a little bit because of my schedule traveling around, 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: but I appreciate everyone's flexibility with our show. I appreciate 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: your flexibility in bearing with us. Alana. How are you. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: We're having an interesting start to the ALCS. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, great to be with you. As always, the 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: hardest working man in the game, bebopping all over the country, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: I tell you what so much though, Ken for home cooking. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: Both of the road teams on each side have won 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: going home with a two nothing advantage. 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: It's really surprising, Alana, and especially surprising on the American 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: League side, after the way the Blue Jays looked in 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: the Division series against the Yankees. But we have a 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: potential problem ahead here, and I want to start with 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: this before we dive into the two series. We have 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: a situation where both of these series could end in 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: five games or less. Certainly that's a possibility. The home 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: team has to do in each case is win two 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: of three, and if that happens, we're looking at a 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: long layoff before the World Series for both teams. Now, 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: if you remember last year, MLB had determined that it 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: was going to perhaps not perhaps it was going to 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: start the World Series earlier, move it up if the 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: two lcs's ended in five games or less, if there 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: was going to be that kind of gap. This year, 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: they've abandoned that plan. In August, the league announced that 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to do that. The World Series would 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: start on October twenty fourth, regardless. So that's the way 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: it's going to go. So if the Mariners, for example, 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: sweep the Blue Jays, if this series ends Thursday night, 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: which would be the case if it went four games, 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: they're looking at a one week layoff, And if the 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Dodgers sweep the Brewers, it's a believe a five or 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: six day layoffs. So I don't know that that's ideal. 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: You want to carry the momentum from these two series 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: into the World Series. But at the same time, the 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: other end, as we've seen, is that it gets teams rest, 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: It allows the pitching in particular to refuel and recharge. 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know how it's going to turn out. 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Maybe both these series end up going long and we 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: don't have that problem, but it's certainly a possibility the 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: way these two things have started. 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're almost hoping as a fan that, you know what, 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: at least the team that hasn't won a game yet 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: can at least wins one, make it at least a 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: five game series to make it interesting and not have 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: such a huge layoff. Let's talk about the Dodgers and 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: the Brewers. First, Brewers down two in the series, both 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: those games, of course at American Family Field. They head 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: back to Los Angeles now, But what about the starting 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: pitching ken for LA, the biggest issue was the Dodgers' 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: bullpen is so bad. We really haven't had to see 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: them in the last two games because of Snell and 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: y'a Momoto. 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's right, a lot. If the bullpen doesn't pitch, 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: it can't be an issue. And actually it was a 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: bit of an issue in Game one because of when 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Snell left the game what happened. But my goodness, these 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: two guys have been absolutely brilliant. Go to Jason Stark 61 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: story in Today's Athletic to see just how brilliant it 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: was in the context of history. Eight innings from Snell, 63 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: nine from Yamamoto, and they've basically suffocated the Brewers. It's 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: as simple as that. It's no discredit to the Brewers. 65 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: They ran up against two incredible pitchers and two guys 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: at the top of their game, and the Brewers issue 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: from the start of this series was the fact that 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: their pitching is not as whole as it was, say 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: in July, there's no woodrift, there are other issues that 70 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: have come up, and it's just a little bit of 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: a shame that they're kind of operating at a disadvantage. 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Don't really have a starter for Game three. But all 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: credit to the Dodgers here, and I know I've questioned them, 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: You've questioned the Milana I believe as well for kind 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: of coasting through the season. Well, they seem to have 76 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the right idea. They seem to be doing this right. 77 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: There's two games away from going back to the World 78 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Series with a chance to be the first back to 79 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: back champions since the nineteen ninety eight to two thousand Yankees. 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been pretty crazy to watch, and I tell 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: you what, to see Blake Snell go as long as 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: he did, and to see Yamamoto have a complete game, 83 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 2: those are back in yesteryear in terms of the way 84 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: that the game used to be played. You don't see 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: that very often anymore. What do you make ken of 86 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: the series that you've been covering with the Toronto Blue 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Jays and the Seattle Mariners. I'm really surprised that Seattle 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: has been as good as they have been, only because 89 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: of the flight in the fifteen inning games and the DS. 90 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: What do you make of it? You're seeing it from 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: a different vantage point. 92 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: All of this is surprising the Mariners and the Blue Jays. 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: And I was just concocting some numbers this morning about 94 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays offensive performance in this series. It has 95 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: not been good. They have in the first two games 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: one hit, one after the second inning, one hit after 97 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: the second inning. Hard to win that way. And this 98 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: is a team that, of course, in the Division series 99 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: against the Yankees, put up thirty four runs in four games. 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: That's an average of eight point five runs per game. 101 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: And suddenly they're averaging two runs per game against the 102 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: ma Owners, who have just pitched brilliantly, even after an 103 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: aborted start from the Logan Gilbert in Game two when 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't good. It wasn't good at all. I pitched 105 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: three innings, So I am surprised, obviously, by the performances 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: of both teams. Here, the Mariners seem to have carried 107 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: their momentum from the DS, regardless of playing fifteen innings 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: in Game five, into this series, and certainly tonight, playing 109 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: at home where their fans have been waiting the entire 110 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: franchise history for the team to make the World Series, 111 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: the atmosphere will be supercharged, But the atmosphere was supercharged 112 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: at Rogers Center until the games kind of got away 113 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: from the Blue Jays and then it got quiet. So 114 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't rule anything out actually in either series the 115 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: way this season has Gonalana and you know this. We've 116 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: seen teams get hot, we've seen them get cold, and 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: we've seen it happen quickly, happen quickly to the Blue Jays. Here, 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: the Mariners are playing at a high level. They're really good. 119 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: They have the pitching advantage the next two nights in 120 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: terms of the starters. But at the same time, would 121 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I be shocked if the Blue Jays won tonight and 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: then with Max Schurz are going tomorrow, this series would 123 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: get a little bit more dramatic. I would not be shocked. 124 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: So the whole key to me as bad as the 125 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: Blue Jays bullpen has been is the offense. They have 126 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: to score, they have to get the lead, and they 127 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: have to just create a margin for error for their 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: pitching staff, which they've been unable to do in these 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: first two games. Ken. 130 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: What would be dramatic, though, is if the teams that 131 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: are down two right now somehow came back and won 132 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 2: this dang thing and made their way to the World Series. 133 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: What we're seeing right now, Ken, is unprecedented. You can see. 134 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: They're a tweet by David Vasse. Only five teams have 135 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: come back in the Best of seven LCS history after 136 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: being down oh to two. Could it happen this year? 137 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. 138 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure either, because these teams have started 139 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: two on the road, and in this era of seven 140 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: game LCSs since nineteen eighty five, that has never happened 141 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: where a team down two on the road has won 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: in nineteen You see this tweet right here. Yes, it 143 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: happened in nineteen seventy, but that was a three game LCS, 144 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: so it was a little bit different. This is going 145 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: to be a difficult task for both these clubs, no question, 146 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: and certainly with the Brewers now facing Glass now on Otani. 147 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: It's really difficult the Blue Jays too, because it's Bieber 148 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: and Schurser versus George Kirby and Luis Castillo. They don't 149 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: have the edge in either of those matchups. So obviously 150 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: it's an extreme challenge that these teams are facing. It 151 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: would be shocking if it turned around. But at the 152 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: same time, John Smoltz talks about this all the time 153 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: on the broadcast and he played in so many postseasons. 154 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: All it takes is one game to shift the narrative, 155 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: and if the Blue Jays win tonight, the narrative does shift. 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Now a lot would be on sures of tomorrow, and 157 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: Sure has not pitched I believe since September twentieth. It's 158 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: a tall task, but he's Max Schurzer. 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Why are so many managers 188 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: fired and not general managers? It seems like he was 189 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 2: in on our production call, Ken Rosenthal, Luke. 190 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: I am going to say that we need to wait 191 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: a little bit and I'll get into this more ondooed 192 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: in Dork. But you ask the right question, and it's 193 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: certainly statistically something that people should be thinking about. Right now. 194 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: We have eight managerial openings. We have one general manager opening, 195 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: the one in Colorado. That seems to suggest it imbalance, 196 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: does it not. It seems to suggest that the accountability 197 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: is not quite the same. And here are the managerial openings. 198 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: You can see them right there, the padres joining the list, Angels, Braves, Giants, padres, 199 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: twins as the current openings interim managers yet to be decided, 200 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: but these jobs must be considered open as well. Nationals, 201 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Orioles and Rockies. The Rangers have filled theirs with Skip Schumacher, 202 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: so certainly in each case with the managers, and Mike 203 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: Schultz a little bit of an exception because he retired. 204 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: But when a manager jerial change takes place, there are 205 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: certain justifications. You can see why it happens. But at 206 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: the same time you can make the same questions and 207 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: have the same questions about general managers, and they never 208 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: seem to be held as accountable. But we'll be back 209 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: with more when we get back to Through the Door 210 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: of the Week. 211 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: All right, Our next question is kind of related to 212 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: managerial openings. But this is from Brionna. Which Hi, Brianna, 213 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: that's my sister's name. That is not my sister, but 214 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: that is my sister's name. She wants to know ken 215 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: is the padre's job a good one? And I'm inferring 216 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: that she's asking because it seems like there's a lot 217 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: of turnover in that position. In San Diego. 218 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: There has been a ton of turnover under Aj Preller, 219 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: who took over in the fall of twenty fourteen. I 220 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: don't know if I have my math right, but I 221 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: believe the next manager will be their seventh under Preller 222 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: in like eleven years. That's an incredibly high rate of turnover. Now, 223 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: is the job a good one? Well, that's a multi 224 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: layered question. The team is good, right? The team is 225 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: certainly good. Manny Machado maybe not what he was offensively 226 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: in his prime, but it's still a really effective and 227 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: good player, Tatist Crona Worth, all the guys that they have, Bogarts, 228 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: this is a good offensive team. It's a team with 229 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: a great bullpen. It's also a team that has serious 230 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: rotation questions because of the potential free agencies of Dylan 231 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: Cees and Michael King, and the payroll questions that they 232 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: are having now with Peter Sidler no longer with us, 233 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: their owner who was so willing to spend and spend 234 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: whatever it took it seemed to bring a championship to 235 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: San Diego. Would say the job is a good one. 236 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: It's certainly better than some of the ones we just 237 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: listed because the team is closer to winning. But at 238 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the same time, there has been a high rate of 239 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: turnover among their managers, and if you're looking at the job, 240 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: you have to keep that in mind. You have to 241 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: wonder what's going on here? Why is it that managers 242 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: seem to not last very long in San Diego. Now, again, 243 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: Schill is a little bit of a different story because 244 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: of what he said that the job took a mental, 245 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: physical and emotional toll on him. There's stuff coming out 246 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: now that suggests that there was more going on. John 247 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: Hayman had a note today about friction with the coaches. 248 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Kevin ac in the San Diego Union Tribune wrote a 249 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: story about friction with the coaches. There were other things 250 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: going on here. But at the same time, that's the question, right, 251 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: is this job desirable? I would say the answer is yes, 252 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: but you have to have your eyes wide open. 253 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. It seems like there's, like 254 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: I said, a carousel in terms of managers. Thank you 255 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: Brianna for the question. The next question is from live 256 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: z k one. I hate this, I hate that this 257 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: is even a question. But could we see Tarek Scougble traded. 258 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: The answer is yes, Liz and or Live And the 259 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: reason is he is one year away from free agency. 260 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: He is a guy that obviously is at the top 261 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: of his game. He's going to win his second straight 262 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: Cy Young Award, and the Tigers, while they might want 263 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: to keep him, and while they might have the resources 264 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: to keep him, I would not expect that they're going 265 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: to be able to sign him to an extension before 266 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: he hits the open market. Tarek Scouble is represented by 267 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Scott Boris. Scott Boris's clients generally not always generally prefer 268 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: to establish their values on the open market through free agency, 269 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: and certainly if you're Tarek Scooble, yeah, you want to 270 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: do that. So could the Tigers blow him away? I 271 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: guess that's possible, but I don't expect that to happen. 272 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at the potential loss of a 273 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: picture of this caliber, yes you have to entertain the 274 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: idea of trading him and getting more than a draft 275 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: pick in return. Because if you put Trek Scooble out 276 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: on the open market, not the open market for free agency, 277 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about the trademark, You're gonna get some 278 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: interesting offers. There's no question. I can think of one 279 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: team in particular that could badly use Tarrek Schouble and 280 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: it's the New York Mets. And that's just one team. 281 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Every team would want him. He is that good. So 282 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: if you're the Tigers, yes, you have to entertain this 283 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: rather than face the risk of losing him for only 284 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: draft pick compensation. It's simply good business. 285 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: And you know what, it's the same type of question 286 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: I would imagine for Paul Skeans on the national league side. 287 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: A question here from Daniel Alvarez. Will Paul Skeans get 288 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: traded this offseason? Almost the same situation? 289 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: Right? Not at all, really, because a lot of just 290 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: a difference in control. Now. I know while you're thinking 291 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: it's the same situation because he's not going to sign there. Yes, 292 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: but skeens, I don't know the exact number of years 293 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: of control left. I believe it's four, and even if 294 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: it's three, whatever the case might be. The I mean, 295 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: the Pirates have to at least think about the future. Now. 296 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: If I were them, I would keep him, and I 297 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: would say, let's take a look at improving the team 298 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: for next year and taking advantage of the time we 299 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: do have Paul Skins, because that time is obviously precious. 300 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: It's not a situation where you can say we only 301 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: have Paul Skins now for one more year. No, you've 302 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: got him for a couple of more years, and if 303 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: you can do this right, you can actually get him. 304 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking up how many years of control right now 305 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: because I want to get this straight. So if I'm 306 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: the Pirates, maybe I start listening. But yes, I'm right, 307 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: it's four years more of control. So you run the 308 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: risk of him getting hurt of course if you keep him. 309 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: But at the same time, my goodness, they have pitching 310 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: to compete. They don't have offense to compete, but they're 311 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: in a division where they can be reasonably competitive if 312 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: they make the right moves and if they spend some money. 313 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. Now, if you're the owner Bob Nutting, 314 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: and you're not going to spend, and you're the general 315 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: manager Ben Charrington and you know you're under restrictions with payroll, 316 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: and you really can't do much other than maybe trade 317 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: some of your pitching for hitting, which is something they 318 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: absolutely should do. Well, maybe then you look at trading 319 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: schemes too, But my goodness, you've got this unbelievable pitcher. 320 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: Try to win with him? How about that concept? 321 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: What a thought? Try to win with him? I love it? Ken, 322 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: All right, another question here, I will flip you the bird. Well, 323 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: I hope not, geez. I know I'm behind on the news, 324 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: But why isn't Ron Washington coming back, obviously coming back 325 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: to manage the Angels. That's one of the openings. Is 326 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: he not well enough to return? What do you know, Ken, Well, 327 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: this was. 328 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: The Angel's decision not to bring him back. And they 329 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: may have decided because he's coming off a quadruple bypass, 330 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: because he is I believe seventy four that it just 331 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: wasn't the right circumstance to keep Ron Washington as their manager. Now, 332 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: we know Wash want us to still and he wants 333 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: to be back in the game in that capacity, but 334 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: certainly the health and the age would discourage maybe teams 335 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: from hiring him. And that's unfortunate in a lot of 336 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: ways because he is someone that makes the game better. 337 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: But this was the Angel's decision, not Ron Washington's to 338 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: not come back as manager. 339 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy lives and breathes a baseball, been around 340 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: this game for a very long time. Certainly wishing him 341 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: well in whatever the future holds for Ron Washington. Okay, 342 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: coming up on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal on this 343 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: special edition on Wednesday, we are talking about Dude and 344 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Dork of the Week. 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Game two of the Division Series 374 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: home runs off Trek Scooble, Game five of the Division Series, 375 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: the walk off in the fifteenth and then in the 376 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: LCS he has been absolutely a dominant player four for nine, 377 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: home run three RBIs. What's interesting is the perception is, 378 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: after all, I just said he's having this amazing postseason, 379 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: but he was only four for twenty two in the 380 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: Division Series. Just so happened that the hits were incredibly clutch, 381 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: the two homers off School as I mentioned, and the 382 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: walk off in Game five. But for all of that, 383 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Hoorye Polanco a much deserving due to the week, especially 384 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: he was lingered on the free agent market until February second. 385 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Nobody wanted Horray Polanco. Guess what for seven point seven 386 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: five million might have been the best signing of the winter. 387 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. My Dude to the Week 388 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: goes to Max Munsey, and I also want to thank 389 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: the Athletics for dfaing him. I understand he was a 390 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: different player at the time. I'm saying this tongue in cheek, 391 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: but Max Munsey didn't have a job and he was 392 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: kind of just sitting on the couch and here come 393 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Daughters and gave him an opportunity. And 394 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: the reason he's the Dude of the Week, Ken is 395 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: because he now holds the record for most post season 396 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: home runs in Dodger's history. That's pretty impressive when you 397 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: think about the fact that this guy didn't have a 398 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: job at one point. He wasn't a homegrown talent like 399 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: the Corey Seegers of the world. But he's he's on 400 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: the list with the Justin Turners, Corey Seegers, Duke Snyder's. 401 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: Congratulations Max Munsey, And honestly, he could have another one 402 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: just by that much if that ball that was supposed 403 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: to be a Grand Slam ended up into that eight 404 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: six to two double play. But a home run last night. 405 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: Congratulations to Max Munty. Okay, time now for our dork 406 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: of the week right after this. Okay, I'm gonna go first, 407 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: I think my dork of the week. And let me 408 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: preface this by saying, it is a very difficult job. 409 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: What homeplate umpires do really the entire officiating crew for 410 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, and obviously in the postseason they have 411 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: two additional guys trying to make sure they're doing things right. 412 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 2: But Doug Eddings, my goodness, I'm not sure if it 413 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: was it was a bad night or what's happening. But 414 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: if you take a look at what happened in ALCS 415 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: Game two. Can I know you're there, but it's just 416 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: it's not a level of accuracy that we're looking for 417 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: in the postseason ninety one percent overall accuracy, a lot 418 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: of missed calls in terms of balls and stripes. So, 419 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: Doug Eddings, you were my dork of the week. I 420 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: know it's a difficult job. I'm not saying it isn't, 421 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: but at the most important and critical time of the season, 422 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: you got to be a little bit better than that 423 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: behind the plate. 424 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Hey, it wasn't his best night, there's no question about that. 425 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: Both teams had some beef with him. But at the 426 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: same time, this outcome of the game was ten to three, 427 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: so it was not like Doug Eddings influenced the outcome 428 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: of the game. But alaha, I hear you. At this 429 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: time of year, you want to see the absolute best 430 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: from the umpires. Now, I will go with my dork 431 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: of the week, and the questioner before kind of stole 432 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: my thunder when he asked why there are so many 433 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: managerial openings and not enough openings. That is what I 434 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: wanted to discuss. It's not a singular dork of the week. 435 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: It's just a trend in the industry where the managers 436 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: get blamed and often, as I said, rightly so, but 437 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: the gms seem to go and rebuild and rebuild and 438 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: endlessly go on this loop. It's not right. And I 439 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: don't know what owners are thinking when they allow certain 440 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: gms to just keep going with their rebuilding plans or 441 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: to keep going after failures that get managers fired. But 442 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: it seems to be that the gms are far more 443 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: secure than the managers, and there is an imbalance there. 444 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: There's no question about that, and no one in the 445 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: industry would dispute it. And in some cases, and I'm 446 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: not going to name names in this particular show, this 447 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: particular time, in some cases it just seems a little 448 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: bit odd, to say the least. So I guess the 449 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: dork of the week would be the industry, which is 450 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: pretty broad for dork of the week, But it's the 451 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: industry for blaming managers when gms all are just as responsible, 452 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: if not more so, for the construction of the rosters certainly, 453 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: and the direction of the team. 454 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, do you how often is 455 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: it that the general manager and manager are a tandem, 456 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: a package deal if you will, like for example, in 457 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: New York. That's the one example I can think of 458 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: the most with Brian Cashman, perhaps Aaron Boone. Now, Brian 459 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: Cashman has been the GM of the Yankees for twenty 460 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: something years, maybe almost thirty years, So how often does 461 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: that happen ken where it's like, if the manager's going 462 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: to go, the GM has to go with them, or 463 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: vice versa. 464 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: Washington Nationals, that was a good example of a situation 465 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: where they fired both. And it doesn't always work out 466 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: that way. Sometimes it does, And Alani, you make a 467 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: great point there. Cashman and Boone are very closely linked, 468 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and it's difficult to imagine the Yankees dismissing one without 469 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: the other. Now, I wrote at the end of the 470 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: DS and I had members of my own family disagree 471 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: with me on this, but I wrote that what happened 472 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: with the Yankees this season was not cause to fire 473 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: either one of them. And I know there are fans 474 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: of the Yankees who are very frustrated with what has 475 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: gone on here and the fact that it seems to 476 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: end the same way every year. Well, a lot of 477 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: fan bases would take the Yankees' problems and a lot 478 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: of fan bases would like to be in the playoffs 479 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven or not twenty seven straight years, but have 480 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: winning seasons twenty seven straight years the way Cashman is done, 481 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: and to have the record that Aaron Boone has compiled 482 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: over this time as well. As I wrote in that column, 483 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: only one team gets to win the World Series. It's 484 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: hard to win the World Series. It's really hard. And 485 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: if the Dodgers do it back to back, it's going 486 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: to be the first time in a long time that 487 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: that has happened. But at the same time, to get 488 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: back to the original point here, it's a question of accountability. 489 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: And if you want to say, as a Yankee fan 490 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: that Cashman and Boone should be held more accountable for 491 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: the fact that they're not going further, I get that. 492 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: I just don't think that this season would justify that. 493 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: If you want to look at the whole picture and 494 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: say it okay and make a change, but I don't 495 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: see that happening. 496 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, front office accountability, but really an industry wide problem. 497 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: All right. So for those of you that are still 498 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: with us, we appreciate it. Let me ask you this, Ken, 499 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 2: this is a situation with the Dodgers up two to oh. 500 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: A lot of comments, obviously on the Dodgers' territory post 501 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: game about the need for a salary cap. Well, there's 502 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: some other big money teams that are not in the 503 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: postseason anymore, Ken tell me more. 504 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Well, Alana, you raise a great point there, and I 505 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: understand certain fans are going to react that way because 506 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: the Dodgers have spent a gazillion dollars and spent it 507 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: pretty well. As it turns out. Blake Snell one hundred 508 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: and eighty million, Yamamoto three hundred and twenty five million. 509 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: Those were the first two pitchers in the LCS for them. 510 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: They're both good. And Oh Glass now with his one 511 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million dollar extension and Show Hey with 512 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: his seven hundred million dollar deal four hundred and eighty 513 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: in present day value. Those guys are coming. So yeah, 514 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: I get the point. But at the same time, I 515 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: would also say the Phillies are out. They were a 516 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: top five payroll team. The Mets didn't even make the playoffs. 517 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: They were a top five payroll team. The Yankees, another 518 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: big money team, get knocked out in the Division Series 519 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: by a Toronto Blue Jays club that is not a 520 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: cheap team by any stretch of the imagination. They're top 521 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: ten payroll, but at the same time they're not this behemoth. 522 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: So fans can say, yes, the sport needs a salary cap, 523 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: and there's a legitimate argument you made on every side 524 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: of this argument or question. But I would suggest that 525 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: the price of a salary cap, and when I say 526 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the price, I mean the cost to the sport with 527 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: a work stoppage that might last. I don't know as 528 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: long as the year. That's too excessive. And as I've 529 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: said before, figure out a way in this economic system 530 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: to make it fairer. I don't know that anyone would 531 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: suggest that the system is working great. It's not teams 532 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: like Cleveland and Pittsburgh and smaller market teams, even though 533 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: some of them are run poorly. Pittsburgh they are at 534 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: a disadvantage, Tampa Bay out of disadvantage, Milwaukee at a disadvantage, 535 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: no question about it. But the way in my view, 536 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: to make this better is to give these teams breaks, 537 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: more advantages, more ways to compete, more draft picks, perhaps 538 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: greater revenue sharing money. However you want to do it, 539 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: there's a formula out there to make this better and 540 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: it's never going to be perfect the way this sport 541 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: is designed without a cap. But again, do you want 542 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: to cap at the expense of losing a season because 543 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: that is the question that the sport is ultimately going 544 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: to face. And as much positive momentum as baseball has 545 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: right now, and it does, a lot of good things 546 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: have happened. Same time, let. 547 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Me ask you this really quickly, Ken, when you say 548 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: that they're at a disadvantage, we don't have a ton 549 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: of time. Maybe I shouldn't set you up. But why 550 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: are they at a disadvantage? Is because the owners just 551 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: don't have the same amount to spend. 552 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Yes, economic disparity, the amount of revenue that these markets generate, 553 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: it's not even close. Los Angeles versus Pittsburgh is a joke. 554 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: Los Angeles versus Milwaukee is a joke. Now, owners in 555 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: the certain small markets can spend more than they do, 556 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: and that's part of this problem here, It's part of 557 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: the equation. But at the same time, there's no denying 558 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: that the amount of revenue generated in individual markets is 559 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: vastly different and growing wider all the time. 560 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we appreciate the insight as always, Ken Rosenthal, 561 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: the hardest working man in the game. Where we look 562 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: forward to seeing you as the ALCS continues on Fox, 563 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: and at some point next week Fair Territory is coming back. 564 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: We're not certain yet, we're struggling everything with en schedule, 565 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: But for you guys listening and watching, thanks so much 566 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: for being here. 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