WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Warner Talks Murray Extension 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.400 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:10.320 he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain presented 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:14.520 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Harry's Gonna score touchdown Slam 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.319 to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:22.799 came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:28.800 you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford? State Farm? 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.760 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:37.640 And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:46.479 Slash podcasts. The Reds Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, flurring rage 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.560 taking over. Here's Paul Calvc. I'm ready. I'm one hundred 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.880 percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.880 if it doesn't get any better than that, horn, unleash 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.680 the far Well. We certainly know who's putting the big 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:08.360 into Big Red Rage tonight, the guy holding the big bag, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:14.440 the guy shouldering the big expectations to who much is again? 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.119 Much is required? I think I've heard that somewhere before. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.160 Ron Boefley, I think I have as well, Polly, Yes, yes, 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.039 maybe on Sundays. This is the Kyler Murray Big Red 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.800 Contract edition, all presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.119 are santan Ford. Shortly it'll be starring Kurt Warner, who 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.280 knows a thing or two about the physician. Can't wait 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.360 to get Kurt's thoughts on all of this. That was 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.480 a great get there, Polly, Well, very well done by 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.520 our Jim al mondro Ron Wolfley. Your reaction when earlier 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.200 today I believe you were maybe even on the air 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.680 when this news came down. If you weren't, you spent 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.200 a good four hours talking about it. No exactly, Polly, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.800 it was. It came down just before we actually hit 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:01.440 the air, Polly, And a lot of relief actually, because 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.920 once again this whole thing could have gotten really, really bad. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.280 The fact they got it done even before you got 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.680 close to training camp, Pauly. I mean I thought maybe 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:18.000 the twenty fifth, maybe Monday, after a weekend, right maybe 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.480 the twenty six, Pauly, when they were actually going to 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.320 report right up to the deadline, and that was not 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:29.600 the case. So pleasantly surprised that they got this deal done. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.120 I believe it was about one thirty this morning, and 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.920 now you know what you can move forward. So what 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:41.800 is it? A two hundred thirty million dollar extension five years, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.040 maybe a two thirty point five so you're just ahead 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.760 of Deshaun Watson in the annual compensation forty six point 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.960 one million per year locked up through twenty twenty eight. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.240 Depending on what you believe. Sports Illustrated says it's about 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.960 one hundred and five million guaranteed one hundred and sixty 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:01.440 two million guaranteed for injury. Either way, it's the biggest 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:06.000 deal in Arizona Cardinals history. And earlier today, Cliff Kingsbury 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.840 on the Dave Pass Podcast just talking about, you know 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:14.399 what a generational talent and an all time contract. He's 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.760 going to continue to get better. The contract deal I 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.359 feel really good about. He's our future here. I mean 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.280 the talent I have said it since I got here 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.920 is generational. Each year you look at the statue, you 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:29.000 look at any wins, anything, it's gotten dramatically better. And 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.480 that's what I've been really excited about. I knew when 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.200 we drafted him he had a chance to be one 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.679 of the top guys in the league. I think he's 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.720 proven that. I mean, kids come in Rookie of the Year, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.839 back to back Pro Bowls. I think he takes criticism, 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.560 which we all do. I think some of his is 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.240 unfair for some reasons I won't get into here, but 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.880 we know what he brings, and every Sunday we line 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.440 up with him as quarterback, we have a real chance 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.040 to win any game. You know what, Pauli, The Cardinals 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.640 officially have their franchise quarterback party. I mean, whether I 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.560 want to call him a franchise quarterback or not, PAULI, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:02.560 they officially have their franchise as quarterback. And I love 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.640 the fact that Cliff Kingsbury acknowledged right in the beginning 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.000 of that clip that Kyler Murray is only going to 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.280 get better, because that's what I believe. I believe he 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.600 is only going to continue to mature as a man 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.200 and mature as a player. Well, we've seen two Pro 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.599 Bowls in his first three years, not too bad. And look, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.920 we've seen defensive coordinators lose a lot of sleep. I mean, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.599 if you think about what he presents, from the athleticism 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.520 to the armed talent to the accuracy, you still think 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.599 of the potential in the upside, you understand why they've 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.080 locked him up through two twenty eight. Intriguing. A little 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.159 comment there from Cliff Kingsbury though just maybe on some 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:48.640 unfair or untoward criticism when it comes to Kyler Murray. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.080 That was intriguing. In fact, it's a really good Listen 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.040 to Dave Pash podcast. You got to check it out 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.719 wherever you get your podcasts and follow along on Twitter 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.480 app Haash Pod. And then here's the head coach defending 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.680 Kyler and some of the aspects of his game on 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.720 and off the field with Dave. Everybody's going to have 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.880 their their own opinion. But the kid came to the 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.360 worst team in football and the worst offense by far. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.760 You know that that had occurred in a long time 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.040 in this league, and all he's done has improved every year. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.560 He's improved the organization, he's improved the team. And because 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.320 he doesn't smile and wave at the camera every day, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.160 all of a sudden, he's this this villain and never 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.040 got in trouble off the field. You've never heard one 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.760 bad thing about him off the field, negative towards any 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.800 person in the building. And so at times I think 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.160 there's certain aspects to him that that draw that criticism. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.320 But we're thrilled the progress he's made and where the 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.279 thing's head and I know he's excited about this upcoming season. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:44.960 You know, as Justin Pugh said on a recent addition 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.440 to the pash Pot quote, we've all seen what this 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.400 looks like without Kyler Murray, and nobody wants that again. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.080 Because Cliff Kingsbury is definitely right. Twenty eighteen, they weren't 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.240 just thirty second in the NFL and offense, they were 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.279 historically bad so. And as he also told Davey said, hey, 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.960 look at Kyler's best when he is at his best. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.760 I don't know who's better in this league. You think 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.680 about that, Polly, I know, man, seriously, this is something 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.120 that we've had many, many conversations about Kyler Murray and 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.960 the talent of Kyler Murray. When you think of his 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.440 arm talent alone, he's right there with the best in 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.839 the league. When you think about his legs, his ability 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.039 to run the ball, he's right there with Lamar Jackson, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.200 one of the best in the league. Now you put 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.919 those two things together right there, that's incredible from a 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.359 talent perspective, Paul, I'm not talking about success at the 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.840 quarterback position, which he's had an awful lot of, by 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.159 the way, Okay, but I'm not talking about that. I'm 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.600 talking about from a talent perspective, a skill set perspective. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.000 He's a combination of Pat Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. He 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.000 is now. He doesn't have the stature the build of 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.320 those guys, but his skills set is just like that, 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.000 a combination of the two. You can't tell me that. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.320 The LA Rams just over a year ago, right last offseason, 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.520 when they pulled the massive deal for Matthew Stafford said 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.320 we better keep pace in our own division. Not long after, 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.160 the San Francisco forty nine ers traded away three first 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:21.560 round picks for Trey Lance. They wanted themselves a future 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:26.080 of football type athlete and quarterback. It's just it's something 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.760 where he resets that bar and what the opponents are thinking. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.080 You know, It's what Larry fitzher Old said last week 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.200 in the NFL Network. He's a guy that everyone around 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.920 the league has to prepare differently for. Yes, and Larry 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.120 also said, loosely quoting, there's nobody in the game as talented, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.040 that as as diverse and array of abilities in terms 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.400 of that athleticism, ability to throw the ball, etc. But well, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.400 what is the charter for Kyler Murray. Now, I mean, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.040 the expectation isn't just to be a great quarterback. You 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.760 have to be a great face of the franchise. You 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.840 have to be a great leader, and in my opinion, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.600 you have to be a big part of the culture 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.720 going Yeah, Paul, I heard you saying that earlier today, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.760 and you are so right on the money in regard 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.280 to that, He's got to be the culture of the 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.520 Arizona Cardinals going forward. That means, PAULI, he's got to 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.560 accept that responsibility. And that's one of the big things too. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.080 That is one of the big stories about Kyler Murray 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.200 and the signing of the extension today, the fact that 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.800 the Arizona Cardinals are not going to go into a 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.240 training camp with this as a story, Paul, because that 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.080 could have been really, really nasty. That could have been bad. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.160 And you know, a Cliff Kingsbury actually got his wish. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.400 He wanted Kyler Murray to be signed from day one, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.959 going into training camp when they all were supposed to report. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.160 He wanted Kyler Murray there. And that is going to happen, Paul. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.680 Days in advance, as a matter of fact, that's going 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.240 to happen. I think that's a big deal. And you 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.160 know what, Look, we can all look at this date 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.839 and it kind of makes sense because quarterbacks reported today 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.120 for the Arizona Cardinals, so they sync it up with 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.960 this state. Okay, I get it, But fun the agent 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.679 has been clamoring for this since basically day two of 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.280 the offseason, right, and we got the Tolstoy length manifesto 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.360 on all caps, and we got the scrubbing of the 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.960 social media and a lot of that's just the process of, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.360 you know, negotiating a contract in twenty twenty two. I 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.480 get it. The agents, the bad cop, the quarterbacks of 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.320 the good guy. I get all that. But the fact 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.040 that the Cardinals waited this long, I think there was 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.640 more to it than that. For example, I think they 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.720 wanted to demonstrate to the agent and any future agents 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.080 trying to maybe flex a little muscle and accelerate the timeline. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.280 No, no no, no, no no, we'll do this on our terms, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.880 on our own calendar. You're not going to get this 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.679 before the draft. And then number two, maybe, just maybe 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.920 they wanted to have a series of conversations with Kyler 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.000 Murray as Mike Garrelfolo, the NFL Network reported way back 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.520 in early February at the start of this offseason. You know, 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.360 the Cardinals very much wanted Kyler to take a step 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.080 forward in a lot of these areas we cite. You know, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.720 it comes to leadership and having a bigger voice with 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.280 his teammates. I'm guessing the Cardinals, I'm speculating, but I'm 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.200 guessing that they made that point to Color you know what, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.559 this is now expected of you as one of the 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.000 highest paid players in the game. Yeah, and you know, Paully, honestly, 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.079 once again, to be fair about it's I don't really 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.640 thinking the quarterbacks reporting if he would have missed that, okay, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.960 would have missed that. Even the players reporting on the 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.160 twenty sixth, even the players doing that, I think you 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.920 could could you could say, Okay, there's still time for 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.520 him not to miss that first practice, because that first 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.400 practice is going to be huge to me, I mean 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.640 as a team collectively. I'm the twenty eight that to 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.679 me was always the drop dead day once again. Episode 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.240 thirty three of The Day Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals Say 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.080 a Coach Clip King's very available now via your preferred 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.000 podcast provider. Get the latest updates via Twitter at pashpod 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.480 All right, So everything we waited all off season four right, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.880 Phil in the blanks, how many years, how many millions? 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.920 How much is guaranteed? The deal is done, The deal 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.360 is big, and now some of the big questions for 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.800 a guy who's been there and done that. Kurt Warner 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.200 joins us. Next on the Big Red Rage presented by 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:16.200 santan Ford in Gilbert. Here comes Kyler Murray, the number 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.360 one overall pick in the NFL draft, and the future 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.720 of the franchise takes the feel for the first time. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.080 That is a great throw, a great read by Kyler Murray, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.680 or you could just see it, Kyler Murray and the 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:33.160 confidence starting to grow. They have seen the Heisman Trophy winner, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.319 a winner his whole life, backing it up with his play, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.120 had a thirty half the twenty at the fifteen ten 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:45.040 five clips down, Kyler Murray, you are ridiculous. Murray magic. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.520 Nasty is as nasty does. And we all know that 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:54.600 Kyler Murray is nasty. The stuff you see in dreams 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.680 and in video games, but not in the NFL. Some 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.640 Murray magic in the form of a Murray montage right there, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.160 the collective voice of the Arizona Cardinals day passion around 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.480 wolf yours truly Paul calvci on The Big Red Rage 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.760 presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert so Wolf. I was 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.120 on this radio show earlier today than national host. He 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.240 hits me with how confident are you that Kyler Murray 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.679 will lead the Arizona Cardinals to a Super Bowl? Paul 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.040 calvac and I went with, well, yeah, I mean, you know, 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.680 Lamar Jackson flamed out in his first playoff game, and 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.440 so did Peyton Manning, and they've done pretty well form themselves. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.880 But there's really only one person truly qualified to answer 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.240 that question, the old right, the only quarterback ever to 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.480 lead the Cardinals to a Super Bowl. We were there, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.720 and he joins us. Now, in fact, we have so 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.880 much to talk about we do. Don't even have time, Kurt, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.440 for all your accomplishments and accolades. Let us go with 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.040 the Hall of Famer. I think that covers a Kurt Warner. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.200 How are we doing? I'm doing good? How are you 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.480 guys doing? I'm getting ready for a great season. Excited 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.920 that Cardinals got Kyla are locked up and we don't 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.880 have to worry about that drama going in the season. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.559 But I'm doing well, and I'm sad about this upsoming 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:06.439 season in the health. Yeah, thank you so much, gray 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.360 Beard for joining us. We really do appreciate this. But 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.400 just give me your thoughts in general on Kyler Murray 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.040 of course, and the Arizona Cardinals and the signing of 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.400 this contract. What was the first thing you thought of 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.400 when you actually heard the news? Well, I mean the 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.679 first thing you always think, because I always come from 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.439 a player's mentality, and that's good for Kyler. I mean, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.200 it's it's incredible that you know, a young kid like 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.160 that has proven enough to earn that kind of contract, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.120 and we're talking about, you know, generational wealth that you're 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.960 excited for guys when they get to that point and 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.800 they sign on the dotted line with something like this, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.720 you know, beyond that, I'm just excited because thinking about 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.760 Kyler Murray's he's gotten better every single year and he's 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.000 a young kid that's still growing and that's still you know, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.079 working his way to what he can be. But he's 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.040 done enough in the short period of time that he's 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.000 played to warrant getting this next deal. And you know, 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.320 now obviously, you know, like all these teams now they're 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.720 hoping that Kyler lives up to that contract, and living 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.760 up to that contract can look a lot of different ways. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.960 I mean, I think big picture wise, we're always going 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.960 to say, you know, leaving the team to a super 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:25.040 Bowl is part of getting that big deal. But we've 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.520 seen other guys in this league. You know that Drew Breeses, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.200 the Aaron Rodgers that have been great year in and 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.520 year out and have led their teams to lots of 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.400 wins and lots of playoff opportunities and opportunities to compete, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.760 that have only played in one super Bowl in twenty 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.560 years and you know, eighteen years. And so there's lots 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:50.000 of different ways to qualify living up to a particular contract. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.280 And so how it's going to be defined, you know, 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.000 we'll see four years from now. But I love that 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.640 they locked him up. And as I said, I love 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.800 that this young kid has done enough in a short 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.120 period of time to say I warrant this kind of deal. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.360 And now, you know, hopefully he steps into that and goes. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:08.480 But now I want to live up to it. I 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.080 want to live up to what forty six million dollars 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.840 a year means in whatever capacity that is. And uh, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.800 and I hope he rises to that challenge. Kurt Warner 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.320 joins us on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.600 Ford in Gilbert. NFL Network will probably cover one of 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.120 the Cardinals practices during Card's camp. If you could challenge 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.480 Kyler Murray to get better in one area this season, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.400 what would it be, Kurt, Well, I mean, I think 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.440 it would just be playing in the pocket and challenge 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:43.160 him to, you know, learn to trust his eyes more 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.400 than his legs, you know. And it's easy for me 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.880 to say because I had no legs, you know, but 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.120 when you have legs like Kyler Murray, I understand how 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.960 it's easy to just go oh, at the end of 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.000 the day, just let me out athlete everybody. But I think, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.800 you know, for him to take that next step, he's 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.800 to be willing to trust his eyes and make decisions 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.520 inside the pocket and allow his arm and his mind 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.560 to beat people, not his legs. And that's where I 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.720 would challenge him. The legs were always going to be 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.560 a part of things, but makes the game easier by 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.760 learning how to play in the pocket and learning how 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.120 to make those decisions and trust that you don't have 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.760 to win games by being an athlete all the time 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.000 because he's such a gifted, gifted thrower. You know, I 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.400 was talking to somebody on the radio today and I 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.160 think if you put all the skill sets of every 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.480 quarterback in the National Football League together, from athleticism to 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.560 throwing ability, put it all together, he may be the 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.120 most talented quarterback we have in the National Football League. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.360 He is such a gifted thrower of the football. And 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.240 that doesn't mean just a big arm. He understands how 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.840 to make different throws. He understands how to throw with touch, 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.600 you know, and allow his players to get to the 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.080 football and making it easier on his plays. And so 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.960 it's a rare combination of his athleticism as well as 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.520 his throwing ability. Now, if he can piece together, you know, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.400 getting better every year inside the pocket and making those 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.480 layouts game in and game out, man, you know, it's 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.840 already scary. You know, what did you say on the intro? 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.600 Nasty is as Nasty does, and he's nasty, There's no 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:28.840 doubt he's nasty. But if he could develop more inside 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.679 the pocket along with everything else he has, man, it 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.040 would really really be nasty for every NFL defense. So 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.680 where do you think schematically this offense. Do you think 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.720 this offense needs to evolve, Kurt, And if so, how, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:50.280 um Well, I mean that's a tough question because again, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.800 evolution a lot of times comes down to what you're 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.640 able to do and what you're able to hang your 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.720 hat on. You can't just always force an issue. You know, well, 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.280 we haven't been good at this, so this is all 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.800 we're gonna do. I just think the evolution really needs 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:10.080 to come from Kyler and then come Cliff to figure 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:15.160 out how he can take those steps inside the pocket 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.919 without forcing it too much to not allow Kyler to 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.000 do what he's capable of doing right now at this 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.040 point in his career. So it's a fine line between 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.600 forcing the issue because you believe he's got to get 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.439 better in that capacity if they ever want to compete 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.720 against the best teams and compete for championships. But you 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.760 can't sacrifice success and what he's done, you know, I 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.000 mean the last two years, first half of the season, 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.400 he's been in the MVP conversation, So you can't sacrifice 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.360 allowing him to be Kyler Murray. So it's really a 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.120 fine line. When we talked about that evolution and how 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:56.400 do you push that envelope in that area without sacrificing 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.719 those other things that he's really really good at this 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.800 point in time in his career, and you have to 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.520 find that balance. And a lot of times I always think, 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.320 you know, that's what training camp and preseason is for. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.520 Is Okay, we're not expecting Kyler to running. We don't 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.000 want to running around making all these plays in training camp. 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:15.840 I want him to stay in the pocket. I want 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.080 to force him to play more in the pocket, and 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.600 then if we can make some growth there in training camp, 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.840 we can see some of that in the regular season 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.480 when it's time to just say, Kyler, ball in your hands. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.320 We need you just to play your game when we're 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.040 between those lines on Sunday. So I think a lot 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.840 of the evolution happens more in the off season and 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:39.399 in training camp and OTAs in preseason, as as opposed 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.640 to expecting guys to every week get incrementally better at 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.879 something when they're in the midst of the season and 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.240 game planning and going out and just trying to win 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.000 the next contest. Kurt Warner, I guest on the Big 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.919 Red Rage. You know we were around back in the 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.159 Super Bowl run and before then, Kurt As you know 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.640 when people talk about Super Bowl forty three, and I'd 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.679 tell him, you know, I'd really started three years earlier. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.840 Kurt Warner, more than any person in that locker room, 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.720 was responsible for changing the culture of the Arizona Cardinals. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.800 And we hear that about Kyler that he should be 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.960 a bigger part of that, that the decision makers want 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.000 him to have a bigger voice with his teammates and 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.199 more of a leadership role. What does that mean to you? 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.360 Can you just simply define that? What would you tell 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.000 a young quarterback in terms of that aspect of their 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:26.240 job description? You know, it's it's always twofold. The first 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.879 thing is, well, I would say the biggest thing is 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.119 you have to get guys in your locker room to 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:36.000 believe and it's twofold one. It's getting them to believe 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.679 in who you are as a player, that you know 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.280 that you can do whatever this need, this team needs 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:47.040 you to do to win every single game, that you've 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.120 got the talent or the ability, or you're putting in 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.560 the time, whatever it is, that those people watch you 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:55.960 in that locker or watch you go to work every 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.280 day and go, okay, we got a guy not just 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.320 a talented guy, but a guy that i'm and I 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.199 can go to battle with every week, and he's going 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.239 to find a way to carry us when we need 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.000 to be carried. So that's the first thing, is you 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.840 have those figureheads in your locker room that will bring 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.359 everybody with them. And then the second part is to 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.560 be a guy that can instill belief in everybody else 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.920 from the standpoint that of what they're capable of. When 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:27.040 I came to Arizona, the biggest thing was I don't 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.080 think anybody ever believed that we were going to win. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.800 Nobody believed what we were capable of, what the possibilities 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.919 were with that team, you know, based on the past 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.800 and the history and the guys that had been there 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.720 and had never won, and so there was really no 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:44.680 belief that we could ever get to the mountaintop. And 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.639 so that was my job when I got there, was 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.280 a show them that I'm capable of leading them there 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.000