1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain presented 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: by satan Ford in Gilbert. Harry's Gonna score touchdown Slam 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford? State Farm? 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. The Reds Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, flurring rage 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: taking over. Here's Paul Calvc. I'm ready. I'm one hundred 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: if it doesn't get any better than that, horn, unleash 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: the far Well. We certainly know who's putting the big 14 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: into Big Red Rage tonight, the guy holding the big bag, 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: the guy shouldering the big expectations to who much is again? 16 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: Much is required? I think I've heard that somewhere before. 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Ron Boefley, I think I have as well, Polly, Yes, yes, 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: maybe on Sundays. This is the Kyler Murray Big Red 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Contract edition, all presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We 20 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: are santan Ford. Shortly it'll be starring Kurt Warner, who 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: knows a thing or two about the physician. Can't wait 22 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: to get Kurt's thoughts on all of this. That was 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: a great get there, Polly, Well, very well done by 24 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: our Jim al mondro Ron Wolfley. Your reaction when earlier 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: today I believe you were maybe even on the air 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: when this news came down. If you weren't, you spent 27 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: a good four hours talking about it. No exactly, Polly, 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: it was. It came down just before we actually hit 29 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: the air, Polly, And a lot of relief actually, because 30 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: once again this whole thing could have gotten really, really bad. 31 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: The fact they got it done even before you got 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: close to training camp, Pauly. I mean I thought maybe 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth, maybe Monday, after a weekend, right maybe 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: the twenty six, Pauly, when they were actually going to 35 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: report right up to the deadline, and that was not 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: the case. So pleasantly surprised that they got this deal done. 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: I believe it was about one thirty this morning, and 38 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: now you know what you can move forward. So what 39 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: is it? A two hundred thirty million dollar extension five years, 40 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: maybe a two thirty point five so you're just ahead 41 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson in the annual compensation forty six point 42 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: one million per year locked up through twenty twenty eight. 43 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Depending on what you believe. Sports Illustrated says it's about 44 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and five million guaranteed one hundred and sixty 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: two million guaranteed for injury. Either way, it's the biggest 46 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: deal in Arizona Cardinals history. And earlier today, Cliff Kingsbury 47 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: on the Dave Pass Podcast just talking about, you know 48 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: what a generational talent and an all time contract. He's 49 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: going to continue to get better. The contract deal I 50 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: feel really good about. He's our future here. I mean 51 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the talent I have said it since I got here 52 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: is generational. Each year you look at the statue, you 53 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: look at any wins, anything, it's gotten dramatically better. And 54 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: that's what I've been really excited about. I knew when 55 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: we drafted him he had a chance to be one 56 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: of the top guys in the league. I think he's 57 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: proven that. I mean, kids come in Rookie of the Year, 58 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: back to back Pro Bowls. I think he takes criticism, 59 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: which we all do. I think some of his is 60 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: unfair for some reasons I won't get into here, but 61 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: we know what he brings, and every Sunday we line 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: up with him as quarterback, we have a real chance 63 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: to win any game. You know what, Pauli, The Cardinals 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: officially have their franchise quarterback party. I mean, whether I 65 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: want to call him a franchise quarterback or not, PAULI, 66 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: they officially have their franchise as quarterback. And I love 67 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the fact that Cliff Kingsbury acknowledged right in the beginning 68 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: of that clip that Kyler Murray is only going to 69 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: get better, because that's what I believe. I believe he 70 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: is only going to continue to mature as a man 71 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: and mature as a player. Well, we've seen two Pro 72 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: Bowls in his first three years, not too bad. And look, 73 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: we've seen defensive coordinators lose a lot of sleep. I mean, 74 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: if you think about what he presents, from the athleticism 75 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: to the armed talent to the accuracy, you still think 76 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: of the potential in the upside, you understand why they've 77 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: locked him up through two twenty eight. Intriguing. A little 78 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: comment there from Cliff Kingsbury though just maybe on some 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: unfair or untoward criticism when it comes to Kyler Murray. 80 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: That was intriguing. In fact, it's a really good Listen 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: to Dave Pash podcast. You got to check it out 82 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts and follow along on Twitter 83 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: app Haash Pod. And then here's the head coach defending 84 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Kyler and some of the aspects of his game on 85 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: and off the field with Dave. Everybody's going to have 86 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: their their own opinion. But the kid came to the 87 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: worst team in football and the worst offense by far. 88 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: You know that that had occurred in a long time 89 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: in this league, and all he's done has improved every year. 90 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: He's improved the organization, he's improved the team. And because 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't smile and wave at the camera every day, 92 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's this this villain and never 93 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: got in trouble off the field. You've never heard one 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: bad thing about him off the field, negative towards any 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: person in the building. And so at times I think 96 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: there's certain aspects to him that that draw that criticism. 97 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: But we're thrilled the progress he's made and where the 98 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: thing's head and I know he's excited about this upcoming season. 99 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, as Justin Pugh said on a recent addition 100 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: to the pash Pot quote, we've all seen what this 101 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: looks like without Kyler Murray, and nobody wants that again. 102 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Because Cliff Kingsbury is definitely right. Twenty eighteen, they weren't 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: just thirty second in the NFL and offense, they were 104 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: historically bad so. And as he also told Davey said, hey, 105 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: look at Kyler's best when he is at his best. 106 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know who's better in this league. You think 107 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: about that, Polly, I know, man, seriously, this is something 108 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: that we've had many, many conversations about Kyler Murray and 109 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: the talent of Kyler Murray. When you think of his 110 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: arm talent alone, he's right there with the best in 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: the league. When you think about his legs, his ability 112 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: to run the ball, he's right there with Lamar Jackson, 113 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. Now you put 114 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: those two things together right there, that's incredible from a 115 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: talent perspective, Paul, I'm not talking about success at the 116 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: quarterback position, which he's had an awful lot of, by 117 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: the way, Okay, but I'm not talking about that. I'm 118 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: talking about from a talent perspective, a skill set perspective. 119 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: He's a combination of Pat Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. He 120 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: is now. He doesn't have the stature the build of 121 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: those guys, but his skills set is just like that, 122 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: a combination of the two. You can't tell me that. 123 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: The LA Rams just over a year ago, right last offseason, 124 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: when they pulled the massive deal for Matthew Stafford said 125 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: we better keep pace in our own division. Not long after, 126 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers traded away three first 127 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: round picks for Trey Lance. They wanted themselves a future 128 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: of football type athlete and quarterback. It's just it's something 129 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: where he resets that bar and what the opponents are thinking. 130 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, It's what Larry fitzher Old said last week 131 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL Network. He's a guy that everyone around 132 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: the league has to prepare differently for. Yes, and Larry 133 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: also said, loosely quoting, there's nobody in the game as talented, 134 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: that as as diverse and array of abilities in terms 135 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: of that athleticism, ability to throw the ball, etc. But well, 136 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: what is the charter for Kyler Murray. Now, I mean, 137 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: the expectation isn't just to be a great quarterback. You 138 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: have to be a great face of the franchise. You 139 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: have to be a great leader, and in my opinion, 140 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: you have to be a big part of the culture 141 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: going Yeah, Paul, I heard you saying that earlier today, 142 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: and you are so right on the money in regard 143 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: to that, He's got to be the culture of the 144 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals going forward. That means, PAULI, he's got to 145 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: accept that responsibility. And that's one of the big things too. 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: That is one of the big stories about Kyler Murray 147 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: and the signing of the extension today, the fact that 148 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are not going to go into a 149 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: training camp with this as a story, Paul, because that 150 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: could have been really, really nasty. That could have been bad. 151 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: And you know, a Cliff Kingsbury actually got his wish. 152 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: He wanted Kyler Murray to be signed from day one, 153 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: going into training camp when they all were supposed to report. 154 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: He wanted Kyler Murray there. And that is going to happen, Paul. 155 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: Days in advance, as a matter of fact, that's going 156 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: to happen. I think that's a big deal. And you 157 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: know what, Look, we can all look at this date 158 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: and it kind of makes sense because quarterbacks reported today 159 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals, so they sync it up with 160 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: this state. Okay, I get it, But fun the agent 161 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: has been clamoring for this since basically day two of 162 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: the offseason, right, and we got the Tolstoy length manifesto 163 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: on all caps, and we got the scrubbing of the 164 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: social media and a lot of that's just the process of, 165 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, negotiating a contract in twenty twenty two. I 166 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: get it. The agents, the bad cop, the quarterbacks of 167 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: the good guy. I get all that. But the fact 168 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals waited this long, I think there was 169 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: more to it than that. For example, I think they 170 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: wanted to demonstrate to the agent and any future agents 171 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: trying to maybe flex a little muscle and accelerate the timeline. 172 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: No, no no, no, no no, we'll do this on our terms, 173 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: on our own calendar. You're not going to get this 174 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: before the draft. And then number two, maybe, just maybe 175 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: they wanted to have a series of conversations with Kyler 176 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: Murray as Mike Garrelfolo, the NFL Network reported way back 177 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: in early February at the start of this offseason. You know, 178 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals very much wanted Kyler to take a step 179 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: forward in a lot of these areas we cite. You know, 180 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: it comes to leadership and having a bigger voice with 181 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: his teammates. I'm guessing the Cardinals, I'm speculating, but I'm 182 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: guessing that they made that point to Color you know what, 183 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: this is now expected of you as one of the 184 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: highest paid players in the game. Yeah, and you know, Paully, honestly, 185 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: once again, to be fair about it's I don't really 186 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: thinking the quarterbacks reporting if he would have missed that, okay, 187 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: would have missed that. Even the players reporting on the 188 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: twenty sixth, even the players doing that, I think you 189 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: could could you could say, Okay, there's still time for 190 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: him not to miss that first practice, because that first 191 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: practice is going to be huge to me, I mean 192 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: as a team collectively. I'm the twenty eight that to 193 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: me was always the drop dead day once again. Episode 194 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: thirty three of The Day Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals Say 195 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: a Coach Clip King's very available now via your preferred 196 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: podcast provider. Get the latest updates via Twitter at pashpod 197 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: All right, So everything we waited all off season four right, 198 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Phil in the blanks, how many years, how many millions? 199 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: How much is guaranteed? The deal is done, The deal 200 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: is big, and now some of the big questions for 201 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's been there and done that. Kurt Warner 202 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: joins us. Next on the Big Red Rage presented by 203 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert. Here comes Kyler Murray, the number 204 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: one overall pick in the NFL draft, and the future 205 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: of the franchise takes the feel for the first time. 206 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: That is a great throw, a great read by Kyler Murray, 207 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: or you could just see it, Kyler Murray and the 208 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: confidence starting to grow. They have seen the Heisman Trophy winner, 209 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: a winner his whole life, backing it up with his play, 210 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: had a thirty half the twenty at the fifteen ten 211 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: five clips down, Kyler Murray, you are ridiculous. Murray magic. 212 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: Nasty is as nasty does. And we all know that 213 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is nasty. The stuff you see in dreams 214 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: and in video games, but not in the NFL. Some 215 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: Murray magic in the form of a Murray montage right there, 216 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: the collective voice of the Arizona Cardinals day passion around 217 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: wolf yours truly Paul calvci on The Big Red Rage 218 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert so Wolf. I was 219 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: on this radio show earlier today than national host. He 220 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: hits me with how confident are you that Kyler Murray 221 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: will lead the Arizona Cardinals to a Super Bowl? Paul 222 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: calvac and I went with, well, yeah, I mean, you know, 223 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson flamed out in his first playoff game, and 224 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: so did Peyton Manning, and they've done pretty well form themselves. 225 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: But there's really only one person truly qualified to answer 226 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: that question, the old right, the only quarterback ever to 227 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: lead the Cardinals to a Super Bowl. We were there, 228 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: and he joins us. Now, in fact, we have so 229 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: much to talk about we do. Don't even have time, Kurt, 230 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: for all your accomplishments and accolades. Let us go with 231 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer. I think that covers a Kurt Warner. 232 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: How are we doing? I'm doing good? How are you 233 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: guys doing? I'm getting ready for a great season. Excited 234 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: that Cardinals got Kyla are locked up and we don't 235 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: have to worry about that drama going in the season. 236 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: But I'm doing well, and I'm sad about this upsoming 237 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: season in the health. Yeah, thank you so much, gray 238 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: Beard for joining us. We really do appreciate this. But 239 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: just give me your thoughts in general on Kyler Murray 240 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: of course, and the Arizona Cardinals and the signing of 241 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: this contract. What was the first thing you thought of 242 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: when you actually heard the news? Well, I mean the 243 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: first thing you always think, because I always come from 244 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: a player's mentality, and that's good for Kyler. I mean, 245 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: it's it's incredible that you know, a young kid like 246 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: that has proven enough to earn that kind of contract, 247 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: and we're talking about, you know, generational wealth that you're 248 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: excited for guys when they get to that point and 249 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: they sign on the dotted line with something like this, 250 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, beyond that, I'm just excited because thinking about 251 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's he's gotten better every single year and he's 252 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: a young kid that's still growing and that's still you know, 253 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: working his way to what he can be. But he's 254 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: done enough in the short period of time that he's 255 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: played to warrant getting this next deal. And you know, 256 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: now obviously, you know, like all these teams now they're 257 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: hoping that Kyler lives up to that contract, and living 258 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: up to that contract can look a lot of different ways. 259 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think big picture wise, we're always going 260 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: to say, you know, leaving the team to a super 261 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Bowl is part of getting that big deal. But we've 262 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: seen other guys in this league. You know that Drew Breeses, 263 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers that have been great year in and 264 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: year out and have led their teams to lots of 265 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: wins and lots of playoff opportunities and opportunities to compete, 266 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: that have only played in one super Bowl in twenty 267 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: years and you know, eighteen years. And so there's lots 268 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: of different ways to qualify living up to a particular contract. 269 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: And so how it's going to be defined, you know, 270 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: we'll see four years from now. But I love that 271 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: they locked him up. And as I said, I love 272 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: that this young kid has done enough in a short 273 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: period of time to say I warrant this kind of deal. 274 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: And now, you know, hopefully he steps into that and goes. 275 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: But now I want to live up to it. I 276 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: want to live up to what forty six million dollars 277 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: a year means in whatever capacity that is. And uh, 278 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: and I hope he rises to that challenge. Kurt Warner 279 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: joins us on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan 280 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: Ford in Gilbert. NFL Network will probably cover one of 281 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals practices during Card's camp. If you could challenge 282 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to get better in one area this season, 283 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: what would it be, Kurt, Well, I mean, I think 284 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: it would just be playing in the pocket and challenge 285 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: him to, you know, learn to trust his eyes more 286 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: than his legs, you know. And it's easy for me 287 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: to say because I had no legs, you know, but 288 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: when you have legs like Kyler Murray, I understand how 289 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: it's easy to just go oh, at the end of 290 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: the day, just let me out athlete everybody. But I think, 291 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, for him to take that next step, he's 292 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: to be willing to trust his eyes and make decisions 293 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: inside the pocket and allow his arm and his mind 294 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: to beat people, not his legs. And that's where I 295 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: would challenge him. The legs were always going to be 296 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: a part of things, but makes the game easier by 297 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: learning how to play in the pocket and learning how 298 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: to make those decisions and trust that you don't have 299 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: to win games by being an athlete all the time 300 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: because he's such a gifted, gifted thrower. You know, I 301 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: was talking to somebody on the radio today and I 302 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: think if you put all the skill sets of every 303 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football League together, from athleticism to 304 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: throwing ability, put it all together, he may be the 305 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: most talented quarterback we have in the National Football League. 306 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: He is such a gifted thrower of the football. And 307 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean just a big arm. He understands how 308 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: to make different throws. He understands how to throw with touch, 309 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, and allow his players to get to the 310 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: football and making it easier on his plays. And so 311 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: it's a rare combination of his athleticism as well as 312 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: his throwing ability. Now, if he can piece together, you know, 313 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: getting better every year inside the pocket and making those 314 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: layouts game in and game out, man, you know, it's 315 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: already scary. You know, what did you say on the intro? 316 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: Nasty is as Nasty does, and he's nasty, There's no 317 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: doubt he's nasty. But if he could develop more inside 318 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: the pocket along with everything else he has, man, it 319 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: would really really be nasty for every NFL defense. So 320 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: where do you think schematically this offense. Do you think 321 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: this offense needs to evolve, Kurt, And if so, how, 322 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: um Well, I mean that's a tough question because again, 323 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: evolution a lot of times comes down to what you're 324 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: able to do and what you're able to hang your 325 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: hat on. You can't just always force an issue. You know, well, 326 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: we haven't been good at this, so this is all 327 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I just think the evolution really needs 328 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: to come from Kyler and then come Cliff to figure 329 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: out how he can take those steps inside the pocket 330 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: without forcing it too much to not allow Kyler to 331 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: do what he's capable of doing right now at this 332 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: point in his career. So it's a fine line between 333 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: forcing the issue because you believe he's got to get 334 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: better in that capacity if they ever want to compete 335 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: against the best teams and compete for championships. But you 336 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: can't sacrifice success and what he's done, you know, I 337 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: mean the last two years, first half of the season, 338 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: he's been in the MVP conversation, So you can't sacrifice 339 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: allowing him to be Kyler Murray. So it's really a 340 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: fine line. When we talked about that evolution and how 341 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: do you push that envelope in that area without sacrificing 342 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: those other things that he's really really good at this 343 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: point in time in his career, and you have to 344 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: find that balance. And a lot of times I always think, 345 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's what training camp and preseason is for. 346 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: Is Okay, we're not expecting Kyler to running. We don't 347 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: want to running around making all these plays in training camp. 348 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: I want him to stay in the pocket. I want 349 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: to force him to play more in the pocket, and 350 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: then if we can make some growth there in training camp, 351 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: we can see some of that in the regular season 352 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: when it's time to just say, Kyler, ball in your hands. 353 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: We need you just to play your game when we're 354 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: between those lines on Sunday. So I think a lot 355 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: of the evolution happens more in the off season and 356 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: in training camp and OTAs in preseason, as as opposed 357 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: to expecting guys to every week get incrementally better at 358 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: something when they're in the midst of the season and 359 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: game planning and going out and just trying to win 360 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: the next contest. Kurt Warner, I guest on the Big 361 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: Red Rage. You know we were around back in the 362 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run and before then, Kurt As you know 363 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: when people talk about Super Bowl forty three, and I'd 364 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: tell him, you know, I'd really started three years earlier. 365 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, more than any person in that locker room, 366 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: was responsible for changing the culture of the Arizona Cardinals. 367 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: And we hear that about Kyler that he should be 368 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: a bigger part of that, that the decision makers want 369 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: him to have a bigger voice with his teammates and 370 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: more of a leadership role. What does that mean to you? 371 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: Can you just simply define that? What would you tell 372 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: a young quarterback in terms of that aspect of their 373 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: job description? You know, it's it's always twofold. The first 374 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: thing is, well, I would say the biggest thing is 375 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: you have to get guys in your locker room to 376 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: believe and it's twofold one. It's getting them to believe 377 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: in who you are as a player, that you know 378 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: that you can do whatever this need, this team needs 379 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: you to do to win every single game, that you've 380 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: got the talent or the ability, or you're putting in 381 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: the time, whatever it is, that those people watch you 382 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: in that locker or watch you go to work every 383 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: day and go, okay, we got a guy not just 384 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: a talented guy, but a guy that i'm and I 385 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: can go to battle with every week, and he's going 386 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: to find a way to carry us when we need 387 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: to be carried. So that's the first thing, is you 388 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: have those figureheads in your locker room that will bring 389 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: everybody with them. And then the second part is to 390 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: be a guy that can instill belief in everybody else 391 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: from the standpoint that of what they're capable of. When 392 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: I came to Arizona, the biggest thing was I don't 393 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: think anybody ever believed that we were going to win. 394 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Nobody believed what we were capable of, what the possibilities 395 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: were with that team, you know, based on the past 396 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: and the history and the guys that had been there 397 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: and had never won, and so there was really no 398 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: belief that we could ever get to the mountaintop. And 399 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: so that was my job when I got there, was 400 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: a show them that I'm capable of leading them there 401 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: and be showing them that they're capable of getting there, 402 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: showing them that they can be better than they have been, 403 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: that when we come together collect we could do something 404 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: that everybody else maybe feels as impossible. And what they 405 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: felt was impossible when I walked into the locker room, 406 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: and that, to me is how you build a cultures. 407 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: It starts with believing, you know. And coach Wiz, I thought, 408 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: did a great job when he came in of staying 409 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: steadfast to what he believed in and saying this is 410 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: how we're going to do it, and we're going to 411 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: do it. And he stayed steadfast in that message and 412 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: in his approach. And it's those kinds of things where 413 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: you see incremental movement and then you start believing. And 414 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: it takes certain people to be able to do that. 415 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: And when you're the face of a franchise, obviously, when 416 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: you play quarterback, that becomes your role. I think a 417 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of people are going to believe, at least to 418 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: a degree that Tyler has the ability to lead them 419 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: and win games with them. We've seen that he's going 420 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 1: to have to convince them that he can take that 421 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: next step and be good enough to win in the 422 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: playoffs and you know, to get to super But the 423 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: second part is to make sure that when they step in, 424 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: the guys in that locker room believes, and that is 425 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: a big part of that position, is connecting with guys 426 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: and pushing guys and understanding how to compete with guys 427 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: every day to push them to their limit, so they 428 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: start believing in what they can accomplish, well, what their 429 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: groups can accomplish. Kurt, We've heard this for so long, 430 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: We really have over the years, of course, that a 431 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback one of the things they have to do 432 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: is work harder than anybody else. First guy in, last 433 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: guy to leave. We've heard that so much. Does that 434 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: still apply in today's NFL? Well, I'm not in today's NFL, 435 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: but I do believe well, Well, to me, as a leader, 436 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: you have to earn respect of the guys around Yes, 437 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: and I think there's lots of ways to earn respect, 438 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you know Wolf as much as me. 439 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: Every time you walk in or hear somebody interviewed in 440 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: the AWE season, you know, everybody says they're the hardest worker. Well, 441 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: everybody can't be the hardest worker. Like, it's not the case. 442 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: Everybody can't be that guy. But you do have to 443 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: figure out what it is that you do that is 444 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: going to earn the respect of the guys around you. Right, 445 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: I felt that I worked hard, but I always felt 446 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: like what separated me was I always felt like I 447 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: was the smartest guy in every room. That you know, 448 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I knew more than everyone else. And that's where I 449 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: earned my respect. Is that I could help teach everybody 450 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: on the offense. I could help talk to guys on 451 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: defense and tell them what I was seeing, and that 452 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: intelligence that I had separated me and earned the respect 453 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: of the guys around me. And I always had their ear. 454 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: They always knew that I knew what we were doing, 455 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: that I knew how to help them, and that's how 456 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I earned my respect. So first guy in, last guy 457 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: to leave. I don't know if that's always the case, 458 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: but I do believe the quarterback or the leaders have 459 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: to earn that respect and have to have something that 460 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: separates them from other guys, something that other guys look 461 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: at and go, man, I want to be that guy 462 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: or that guy's got something different about him. And I 463 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: think that will always apply in leadership roles. Because you 464 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: don't have respect. For whatever reason, you don't have respect, 465 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: it's always going to be hard for guys to follow you, 466 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: and especially when things get tough, or especially when you 467 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: have to ask them to do something they don't want 468 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: to do. They're always going to look back and go, 469 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: well do you do it? You know, are you asking 470 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: me to do something you're not willing to do? And 471 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: so I do think to some degree that applies. I 472 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: just don't think it always applies in exactly the way 473 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: that you're talking about. Like, you know, I know we 474 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: hear that all the time. What are you doing when 475 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: you get in the building and what are you doing 476 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: before you leave? To me, is more important than when 477 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: you get in the building and when you leave the 478 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: respect because it's so true, that's what you're after. How 479 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: that it's distributed, it's probably different today. I'll tell you 480 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: what you want to get ready for this NFL season. 481 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Go to QB confidential dot com. That's QB confidential dot com. 482 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, the driving force behind sharing Hall of Fame secrets, 483 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: building better players, smarter coaches, and more informed fans. At 484 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: QB confidential dot com, you get more of this sort 485 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: of knowledge and insight. Kurt, Thank you, and we hope 486 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: to see you next month. Out of the stadium, I 487 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: am definitely gonna be there. I can't remember the day 488 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: that I'm going to be out of the stadium, but 489 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: I will be covering Cardinal Camp at one point, and 490 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: we look forward to catching up. But it's always great 491 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you guys, and let's go have a 492 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: great season. Right on, great Baird. The good news is 493 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: neither one of you us to wear anymore about being 494 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: tackled from behind by Larry Fitzgerald like it has happened 495 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: at camp in the past. That's good, Kurt Warner. We 496 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: continue with a big red rage presented by Satan Ford 497 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: in Gilbert shotgun snapped at Wilson, straight drop back, steps 498 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: up in the pocket, takes off on far side of 499 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: the forty and drilled by Simmons at the forty one. 500 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is balling how you do things outside of 501 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: the facility and off the field, like going home, and 502 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: how long you choose to study, what you choose to 503 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: do extra, what you choose to do after practice is over. 504 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: That's something that I've always, you know, done, but you know, 505 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: it's just a whole new level when you're a pro, 506 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: just because at this level where everybody's physically gifted, everyone's 507 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: an athlete, and I feel like where people separate them 508 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: is the mental aspect of the games. Isaiah Simmons quoting 509 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: danced Joseph Cardinals defensive coordinator this offseason, and this is 510 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: on Isaiah and Zavian Collins. Quote it's their time, their 511 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: first round picks. They have to help us. End quote 512 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: danced Joseph Aron Wolfley, You're truly Paul CALVISI special thanks 513 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: to Kurt Warner for joining us on the Big Red 514 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. How about Kurt 515 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: making that statement, if you put all the quarterbacks lined up, 516 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: all their skill sets, that Kyler Murray might be the 517 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: most gifted of every quarterback on the planet right now. 518 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: So that was that was intriguing stuff. You talk about gifts, though, 519 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: wolf and you talk about just sheer talent. I mean 520 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons on the defensive side of the ball. You know, 521 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: look he still has massive upside, doesn't he. Yeah, no, 522 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: he does, Polly And once again, I honestly, you know, 523 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: the talent is so obvious on the offensive side of 524 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: the ball. You just look at the offensive side of 525 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: the ball and the talent, Bolly, it's so obvious. When 526 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: you start with Kyler Murray, you got d Hop when 527 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: he comes back, you got Hollywood Brown, you got zacherts 528 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: On and on it goes, Yes, the talent is there, 529 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Yet the defensive side of the ball you can also 530 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: see some talent. And I do believe that maybe the 531 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: folcrum to the entire season, assuming the offense is gonna 532 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: be what I think it's gonna be, and that's one 533 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: of the best offenses in the league. I do believe 534 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: that I expect them to do. With the talent they 535 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: have and the offensive line now that Rodney Hudson is 536 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: coming back, I think they're going to be one of 537 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league. Having said that, maybe 538 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: the entire season rests on the shoulders of the two 539 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: young inside linebackers and how they develop Paul this year, 540 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: because they're going to impact not only Rundown being first 541 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: and ten, second and one to six, but also third 542 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: and obvious of course they're going to impact and these 543 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: are guys that may not come off the field, Paul, 544 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: and because of that, they have a huge opportunity to 545 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: impact not only the rushing game of an offense, but 546 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: also PAULI the passing attack because we know the guy 547 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: who's off the field permanently, and that's Jordan Hicks, team captain. 548 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: Correct guy who played the most defensive snaps if anyone, 549 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: last year, number two in tackles. Guess what, Jordan Hicks 550 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: ain't walking through that door this season, So it's incumbent 551 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: upon those two young inside linebackers. In fact, on the 552 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: Pash podc Yes, I actually honestly do not know the 553 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: answer to this question. I do not hear this part 554 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: of the podcast. Yeah. Dave Pash asked clip Kingsbury if 555 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: he could name a defensive player who he sees making 556 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: a big leap this season. Is there a player in 557 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: particular that when you talk with Vance, you guys are like, man, 558 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: this this is going to be his year. We got 559 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: a feeling about this, dude, Is there anybody? I'd say 560 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. I think we've found a role for him 561 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: that we feel like he maximized what he does best, 562 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: and he's such a dynamic athlete and when he's not 563 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: thinking and just playing fast and attacking the football, good 564 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: things happening for us. And there's year three in the system. 565 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: I really saw some nice flashes this offseason and I 566 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: expect him to play really well. Okay, that comment there 567 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: from clip Kingsbury that we have found a role we 568 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: have found a position that we really think suits him best. 569 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: That yes, that is the big red question. And you 570 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: know what, at the end of the press commerce Vans 571 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: Joseph he was he was from it up by some 572 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: of the media members, what is Isaiah Simmons Where exactly 573 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: is he going to play? And his answer, Vance Joseph was, 574 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: He's a linebacker first and that's where he's playing. Yet 575 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: when we had the open media sessions this offseason, he 576 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: seemingly was playing more safety than linebacker. And we've seen 577 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: him in five or six different positions during regular season games. Yeah, 578 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: and then didn't he also go to Ryan Clark's dB 579 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: Precision Camp. Yes, he did, as a matter of fact, 580 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: right as a dB. Now, listen, I think Isaiah Simmons, 581 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: this is just me pure speculation. I think Isaiah Simmons 582 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: is working on that part of his game because Vance 583 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: Joseph is gonna move him around. He's not only going 584 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: to play that week side inside linebacker. That's where I 585 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: think he's still going to be grounded, where he's still 586 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: going to start, but he's also going to be moved 587 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: around and playing more of a safety position as well. Now, 588 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: once again, I'm not saying he's gonna take Jalen Thompson 589 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: or Buddha Baker's reps. I'm not saying that, maybe they're 590 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: going to just have this true X factor and Isaiah 591 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Simmons out on the field. Now, Paul, you know what, 592 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Playing safety is more difficult I think for Isaiah Simmons, 593 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: and because of that, I think he's spending a lot 594 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: of time trying to work on improving that part of 595 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: his game. You know what, in Week one against Kansas City, 596 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what position he's playing. He's playing the 597 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: position titled the guy who covers Travis Kelsey. That's his 598 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: position in Week one against Kansas Cy. Now after that, 599 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea Well, week two, I guess to 600 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: be the guy who covers Darren Waller. So about that. 601 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: But look, here's my thing on where the Cardinals are 602 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: currently constructed. If you want to get the best eleven 603 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: on the field, Isaiah Simmons obviously is one of the 604 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: most talented guys on that defense. But where exactly, Well, 605 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: if you're a little thin at corner and guess what, 606 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: you know what you have the two outside corners Marco Wilson, 607 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: Buyer Murphy and their head and shoulders above any other corner. 608 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: You keep them on the field, But now all of 609 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: a sudden you need a slot corner. Could that slot 610 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: corner potentially be a Buddha Baker? Yes? Could it be 611 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: a jail And Thompson we've seen that at times, would 612 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: to be an Isaiah Simmons. If the matchup is right, 613 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: it could be. So maybe they keep him on the field, 614 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: but he's not necessary an inside linebacker. He's not even 615 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: on the edge like we saw him at times last year. 616 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 1: But he's that fifth dB, which they don't necessarily have 617 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: right now, especially after the tragic death of Jeff Cladening. Yes, no, absolutely, Polly, 618 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: who knows what vance Joseph is going to do? I 619 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: just during rundown situations, This is me, Paul. I really 620 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: think Isaiah Simmons once again, Isaiah Simmons and Zavan Collins, 621 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: those two young inside linebackers right there. I want to 622 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: see him get the majority of reps inside the box 623 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: as the weekside inside linebacker. This is just me pure 624 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: speculation on this, but if in fact the other team 625 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: has a power personnel group meaning twelve personnel, one back, 626 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: two tight ends, or twenty one personnel, polly, meaning two backs, 627 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: one tight end right or thirteen one back, three tight 628 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: ends if they have a power personnel group in during 629 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: rundown situations. Man, I really hope to see Isaiah Simmons 630 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: lining up is that weekside inside linebacker, But once again, 631 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: he's so wildly talented, they are going to move him around. 632 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: But I also hope, Pauli, that we're going to see 633 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: more nine on seven drills this year in training camp. 634 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: More nine on seven, Pauli, the inside running game drills 635 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: like that, because I think Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins 636 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: really need that kind of work. I hope that happens. 637 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: I mean, look at your own division. You think the 638 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: last place Seahawks will reverse engineer this right? You think 639 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: the last place Seahawks are going to try and run 640 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the ball this year? Say, yes, it's gonna be their 641 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: only option with Gino Smith and Drew Locke, and they 642 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: loaded up in the offseason on running backs and offensive lineman. 643 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: We know what the forty nine ers do with Kyle Shanahan. 644 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: They make you stop the run first, and if you don't, 645 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: he'll run it fifty times. Yeah, and then what did 646 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: the Rams do last year? What did they do after 647 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals jack stopped him? They realize, you know what, 648 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: this ten personnel isn't working without Robert Woods. We better 649 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: go back to that offense we ran with Todd Gurley 650 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: and it was a much more balanced offense. And now 651 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: with a healthy Cam Akers, the word out of the 652 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: Rams camp is they are going to ram it this 653 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: year more with the run game. So for a defense 654 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: that allowed one hundred and fifty yards rushing or more 655 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: five times last year, yeah, you're darn toot that those 656 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: two guys better be up to stop in the run. 657 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: And Polly, why didn't you say Jared Goff? Why didn't 658 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: you say that? Because that's what they did. They took 659 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: it back to Jared Goff. Yeah, Todd Gurley was there, Polly, 660 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: but they brought it all the way back with Matthew Stafford. 661 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that got him into the Super Bowl, 662 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: in my opinion, was putting Matthew Stafford back into the 663 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,959 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Here comes a tackle zone and the play 664 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: action that comes off of it. Haroed Comps, you know 665 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? Enough about the stinking Rams. I want 666 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: your opinion to come full circle here. What is the 667 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: bigger question mark for this Cardinals defense pass rush, meaning 668 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: can you get to the quarterback minus Chandler Jones or 669 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: is it those two young inside linebacker Polly? For me, 670 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: right now, it's still the two inside linebackers, These young 671 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: guys that have wild talent that could impact the other 672 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: team's ability to run the ball and impact their ability 673 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: to throw the ball with those long frames and long arms. 674 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Paul, they could be a force or not. 675 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm looking at in training camp and 676 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: the first time, the first time the first team d 677 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: comes out there, you don't think everyone's looking to see. Okay, yes, 678 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 1: where exactly is Avne and Isaiah sis Hey? Cardinals season 679 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: tickets available now at easy Cardinals dot com, slash season 680 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: four info more the big red rage right after this 681 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: flashhead of downs on the ou twenty five yard line. 682 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: Mr Action going due before how you touch down centers 683 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: seventy five yards? I'm a bassist guy, I'm the fail 684 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray Hollywood Brown. They have been there and done that. 685 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: That was twenty eighteen Kyler's Heisman campaign Oklahoma at Iowa 686 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: State back. The voice of the Cardinals day pass has 687 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: been there and done that. There he was calling it 688 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: on the TV side. I remember right after the trade, 689 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: and it happened on Draft night, Welcome Back into the 690 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: Big Red Race, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Ron 691 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: Wolfley there, Paul Calvc here, and there we were on 692 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: stage with Hollywood Brown after the trade. About a half 693 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: hour after it was announced, Michael Bidwell flew him down 694 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: in front of the Cardinals Draft party. Right that epic scene, 695 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: I got a lot of attention, and I vividly remember 696 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown saying, you know what, Kyler Murray, I know 697 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: how he thinks, he knows how I think these two guys, 698 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: they're literally best friends and wolf how far where do 699 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: you think that goes? That sort of chemistry when it 700 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: comes to production for the Cardinals offense? Yeah, No, I 701 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: think it goes a long way, Paul, I really do. Now, 702 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to prove that, and that's something that's 703 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure they have no problem doing going out there 704 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: improving it. But yeah, I think that chemistry is always 705 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: going to be there, and I think we'll see it 706 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: probably earlier as opposed to later in the season, So 707 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that. At all. I'm just really 708 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: really excited about the dynamic Polly. You know that I 709 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: was talking about this long before Hollywood Brown ever was acquired. 710 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: I was so fired up about Rondel Moore. Why was 711 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: I fired up about Rondel Moore, Polly, Because I thought 712 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: he was going to get more vertical, Right, This was 713 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: a guy that could take the top off for the Cardinals, 714 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: and that's something they really really need. And that wide 715 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: receiver room, the ability of a guy to run down 716 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the field and scare the dog out 717 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: of the safety, scare the dog out of the defensive coordinators, 718 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: and then provide an awful lot of room for the 719 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: guys underneath running their intermediate routes. And now all of 720 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: a sudden, the Arizona Cardinals have that guy in the 721 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: form of Hollywood brown Man, not only what he does 722 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands, but what he does 723 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: without the ball. And this is what I'm fascinated to see, Paulie, 724 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: because I think it's gonna have a dynamic impact on 725 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: this offense going forward. Yeah, Cardinals receiver's coach Seawn Jefferson 726 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: right after the Super Bowl, remember he confirmed you know 727 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: your wants and needs and desires that yes, indeed, Rondel 728 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: Moore will be to downfield a lot more this year. 729 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: And what I'm also intrigued about when it comes to 730 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown is when he told us on the Big 731 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: Red Rage that you know what, I haven't been able 732 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: to even showcase what I can do in the NFL yet, 733 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: he said, I've been a team guy, meaning that Raven's 734 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: offense run by Greg Roman with the multiple tight ends 735 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: in the power run game, so he was always the 736 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: third option at best. Well now, especially without d Hop, 737 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: he could be the very first options. So you gotta 738 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: figure he's going to get a lot of targets. He'll 739 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: get a lot of chances downfield. He told us how 740 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: he according to the analytics and the metrics, he's received 741 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: more cushion than any other receiver in the league. So 742 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: we'll see what sort of respect he gets in that regard. 743 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: And then boom, all of a sudden, you get that 744 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: sort of tandem with Kyler and Hollywood Brown, and then 745 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: you realize, Okay, what does that mean for the Cardinals offense? 746 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: Something Justin Pugh talked about in the Day Pash podcast, 747 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: just Kyler and how guys want to play with him, 748 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: and where the Cardinals are now versus where they were. 749 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: Kyler is in his third year in the NFL, and 750 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: when I was in New York, Eli Manning was not 751 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: a vocal leader. He was the first one in, he 752 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: was the last one out. He did everything right. Kyler 753 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: comes in, he does everything we asked him to do. 754 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: I was here four years ago and we didn't have 755 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I remember that team, and I've seen a 756 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks come through the store justin in twenty 757 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: one years, we had the worst offense and I think 758 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: NFL history. So when Kyler got here, a light went 759 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: back on. Irrelevance came back on. We started playing primetime 760 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: games again. We've been in the playoffs, We've been relevant. 761 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: Our families has something to look forward to every year. 762 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: There's something to be said about that. Yeah, it's only 763 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: gallows humor now. Because you have Kyler Murray and you 764 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: have a top ten offense. It's so nice to be 765 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: able to kind of chuckle that. Alright, Yes, because twenty eighteen, 766 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: when Sam Bradford his face down on the turf and 767 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: then here comes Josh Rosen, it definitely was not amusing. 768 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: Didn't route to a three and thirteen just yet another 769 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: reason why he was handsomely rewarded today. Well, yes, absolutely, Polly, 770 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 1: but also too, I just want to take this time 771 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: because we really haven't mentioned Rodney Hudson and the ability 772 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: to run Rodney Hudson out there on this offense as 773 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: the center once again is absolutely huge. This is huge. 774 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: That was just as big to me, it really was. 775 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: You know what, the Kyler Murray signing is huge, obviously, 776 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: and it's bigger because he's a franchise quarterback, but eliminating 777 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: the distraction was a big deal for this team going forward. Well, 778 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: you know what, signing Rodney Hudson was also a huge 779 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: deal for this team going forward because Polly, once again 780 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, you know Bill Belichick, right, Polly, you know 781 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: what he's done. He's done something a little bit right 782 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: there was very fond of saying, the team that controls 783 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the field more times than not, controls 784 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: the game. And you know what, Polly, it all starts 785 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: with a center snapping the ball. It all starts with 786 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: a guy like Rodney Hudson getting a lot of guys 787 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: lined up, and you give me an offensive line. Your 788 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: offensive line doesn't have to be the best in the league. 789 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: It just has to be good enough to allow your 790 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 1: talent to do what they do, good enough to allow 791 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to do what he does. Good enough to 792 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: allow Kyler Murray to be able to throw the ball 793 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: down the field to d Hop and Marquis Brown and 794 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, and to be able to hand the ball 795 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: off to James Connor. It's got to be good enough 796 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: to allow your skill to do what they do, Polly, 797 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: because we can name all those skill players. But if 798 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: your O line is a liability, you will take the 799 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: l Yep. We've been there and done that. Plenty of 800 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: talented offenses have had a bad offensive line and they 801 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. In fact, I'll go back to the 802 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: playoff game. There's a reason one of the first acquisitions 803 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals may in the off season was a right 804 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: guard because right guard was a liability. Yeah, especially against 805 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: number ninety nine Aaron Donald. And I vividly remember Aaron 806 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: Donald after that game telling the media quote their quarterback 807 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: didn't look comfortable end quote. Ya. That's all it takes. 808 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: That's all it takes for Kyler Murray to play the 809 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: worst game of his NFL career is just him being 810 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: uncomfortable behind an offensive line, especially when there's a real 811 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: liability at a certain position. Yes, Polly, I mean honestly, 812 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: once again, it's all of this is coming together right now. Now. 813 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: They got to go do it. They got to prove it. 814 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm not making any predictions. You know how I feel 815 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: about predictions, Polly. But man, they've got the pieces to 816 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: be one of the best offenses in the National Football 817 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: League bar none. In fact, I had to shut down 818 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: cam Cox from Channel twelve earlier today. He wanted to 819 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: stink in prediction. Absolutely not, no predictions whatsoever. Besides, besides, 820 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Did I think the Cardinals were 821 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: going to start seven and oh last year or ten 822 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: and two? No I did not. And did I think 823 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: they would finish by losing five of the last six, 824 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: including the playoff game. No, I most definitely did not 825 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: think that's the way the Caesar's gonna end. So who 826 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: knows exactly what's coming our way? Yep? All I know 827 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: is it is an unbelievable schedule. 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