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Speaker 2: Welcome to do a media you know, that's that's how

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Speaker 3: So uh here, we are here, We are there.

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Speaker 2: You know a little water for them, are we are

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Speaker 1: Up in a little while. Yeah, we'll brobably switch it

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Speaker 1: to guns, you know.

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Speaker 4: But because it's apropos, we are in your speakeasy.

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Speaker 2: And and and for those.

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Speaker 4: Of you out there who can't really see this magnificent space,

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Speaker 4: this is Wilmer Valderrama is wonderful speakeasy. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: Hey, Aaron, you went into the yourself a bit.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, what's going on, y'all. My name is Aaron.

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Speaker 5: I'm a producer for Docent Migos. Consider me your third

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Speaker 5: amigo for today's episode. I'm over here. And if you

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Speaker 5: have any questions or things. If the audience out there

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Speaker 5: I'll be here to present it to you all.

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited for the journey. And yeah, let's have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Eron Wilmer, I want to know what the inspiration

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Speaker 1: Me too, me too so much. Nobody can get me

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Speaker 2: What was the inspiration?

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Speaker 3: Like, you know, I gotta say, I think Timothy Alton

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Speaker 1: Long time, and I discover him late.

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Speaker 3: And I just love that every single one of these

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Speaker 2: Like what would you how would you describe his style?

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Speaker 3: It's like vintage new, but it's really a vintage, but

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Speaker 3: He also uses vintage artifacts and then gives it new purpose, right,

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Speaker 3: Like there's just stuff like that, and it's just really

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Speaker 1: Welcome to those? Am he goos?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, welcome to those.

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Speaker 3: The podcast so you explore the many topics that run

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Speaker 4: Have our brains, so that you can get a sense

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Speaker 4: of what it's like when Wilmar and I get together

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, perfect segway into like how do we ended

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Speaker 4: Finally it was the it was the strike right, and

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Speaker 4: And we finally did it, and we got together and

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Speaker 3: It's a it's an Argentina and restaurant on Marroo's my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what life hacks you know, what ways do

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Speaker 5: Because this is like a dope friendship and I know

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, this is yeah. I remember I was

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Speaker 3: pop culturally moments in history. And I remember seeing you

447
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Speaker 3: go through the ALBUMA Awards and whatever, and I was like,

448
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 3: of course, I mean like you were.

449
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 1: You were absolutely lifting our community for.

450
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 3: So long, but they weren't that many of us, so

451
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 3: the signal was like just brewing, you know, like we

452
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,199
Speaker 3: were just making them, you know, and but you were

453
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: part of this community that was just breaking ground for

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Speaker 3: all of us. And I was it was more than proud.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to be like that. I just wanted

457
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Speaker 3: to continue to aspire to do that, you know. And

458
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 3: but it was our conversations. And I remember when I

459
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: truly fell in love with Freddie Rodriguez was when we

460
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 3: were on a flight to London, That's right, yeah, yeah,

461
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: and we ended up sitting together like just randomly and

462
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, Freddie, nice to see you, and like yeah.

463
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Speaker 1: And You're like the same.

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Speaker 3: And then we did not take one blink of a

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Speaker 3: nap as from the moment we boarded to the moment

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Speaker 3: we landed, to the moment.

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Speaker 1: We got our bags, we were talking. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how long.

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00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: That flight was like thirteen hours, thirteen hours, and we

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Speaker 3: talked about all of it, and that's when I knew,

471
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Speaker 3: you know, you're gonna be my family for life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, brother. I received that.

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Speaker 4: And you know what's interesting about that, you know, us

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Speaker 4: talking like that for thirteen hours, I mean, what does

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Speaker 4: that say. It said is that there's a lot that

476
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 4: we were holding back. Right. I don't want to say

477
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 4: it's like a therapy session, but you know it goes

478
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 4: to show that that, at least as I'm speaking for myself,

479
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 4: you know, like I didn't really have too many other

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Speaker 4: people that I can talk to like that that understood

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00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 4: the journey, that understood the steps, that understood starting how

482
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Speaker 4: we started and what it was to be there. You

483
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 4: said something a minute ago that was really interesting. A

484
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 4: lot of the projects that we've done, we're always the

485
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Speaker 4: only Latino in that project, you know, and that gets

486
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 4: lonely man, right, you know, you know, you go from

487
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: movie to movie, show to show, and you're always the

488
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Speaker 4: only Latino person, you know, and you don't have somebody

489
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Speaker 4: else there that you can relate to or talk to.

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Speaker 4: And so so then when you get on a plane

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Speaker 4: in London for thirteen hours.

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Speaker 1: It's like I gotta let it alone.

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Speaker 2: I gotta let it out.

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Speaker 1: But there was a lack of community, right, there's a

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Speaker 1: lack of.

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Speaker 3: Awareness, you know, And we were all, you know, lone

497
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: ranger in this thing in different directions, right, we were

498
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: segregated from each other and not allowed to technically commute

499
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Speaker 3: artistically because you're right, like tokenly, you know, we were

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Speaker 3: placed in different projects. And by the way, we were

501
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 3: also where able to play against stereotypes and so many

502
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Speaker 3: different ways, you know, and some all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So it's pretty unbelievable. For me.

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Speaker 3: It was like, you know, I had an accent, So

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Speaker 3: when I was looking at you as a Latina and

506
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Speaker 3: you did not have an accent but also spoke Spanish,

507
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Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta be like this guy because

508
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: I literally could have ship my accent. And I think

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Speaker 3: for right now, I think you can hear that I

510
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Speaker 3: decided to give up on that question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I never but I never felt it was like

512
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Speaker 4: at the forefront.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't strong enough to be the night in jobs,

514
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: but it also wasn't like clean enough to play you know,

515
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: the full American guy, you know. But but I mean,

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Speaker 3: I to your point I think having our journeys, you know,

517
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: clashing this way, and for us to be able to

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Speaker 3: historically record these moments and and say like, we can

519
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Speaker 3: leave this behind and you know, not just for our children,

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00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: but humbly to those who are next. And there's a

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00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 3: beautiful community out there that has been waiting for this space,

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00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: and I dare to say they're inheriting a space that's

523
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: so much more open, so much more marketable, so much

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00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: more fruitful. And I think the idea that this podcast

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Speaker 3: can start this conversation in many ways.

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Speaker 1: On that level, it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: And I you know, I invite everybody in the studio

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Speaker 3: system in Hollywood and all other industries to kind of discover,

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Speaker 3: you know, how much of a partner this community can be,

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Speaker 3: how much of.

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Speaker 4: A partner, how vast our audiences, how big our audiences,

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Speaker 4: The audience that's going to tune in to listen to this,

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Speaker 4: the audience that has followed us for the last thirty years,

534
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Speaker 4: that have watched all our things.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about all those things.

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Speaker 3: We're going to bring all of our friends, you know,

537
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 3: to come and validate these stories. Don't take it just

538
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: from us, but yeah, the idea that we can bring

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00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: other individuals that were part of that journey and also

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Speaker 3: individuals that may be part of the journey we're going next,

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Speaker 3: and we hope everyone enjoys it.

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Speaker 1: And that leads me to my next wondrous question.

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Speaker 3: We've been able to talk a little bit of like

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Speaker 3: the inspiration, what like what kicked our butts into artistry?

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Speaker 3: You know, but I think a lot of people have

546
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Speaker 3: not had the opportunity to hear who is Freddie Rodriguez?

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Speaker 1: You know, like where do you come from? Who are

548
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Speaker 1: your parents? You know, who were you as a kid,

549
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Speaker 1: who were you as a student?

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Speaker 3: You know, like what what things happen in your life

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Speaker 3: that kind of shape what Freddie Rodriguez is today? Because

552
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Speaker 3: although we have to artistry, there's a whole lifetime that happens,

553
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: the play of factor and the choices you make as

554
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Speaker 3: an actor in the in the in your views and your.

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Speaker 1: Philosophies of life. And I love to hear that, Oh, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 4: I hope we have another episode in us maybe maybe

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Speaker 4: we'll well look at that.

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Speaker 3: We got to refill our cup refilled and we welcome

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Speaker 3: Maryant Episode two.

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Speaker 1: Who is Freddie Rodriguez?

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Speaker 2: Salute?

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Speaker 4: Dos Amigos is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's

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Speaker 4: Michael Tuda podcast network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez, and

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00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: Wilmer Valderama.

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Speaker 3: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlison and Sophie Spencer's Zebos.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valderama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlison,

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Speaker 4: and Leo Klem at WV Sound.

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Speaker 3: This episode was edited by Ryan Posts and Aaron Burlison

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Speaker 3: and features original music by Madison Devenport and Halo Boy.

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Speaker 4: Our cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed

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Speaker 4: by Deny holtz.

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Speaker 3: Claw and special thanks to every single interview for joining

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Speaker 3: this journey and I hope you continue to enjoy us.

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Speaker 4: For more podcasts from my Heart, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 4: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 3: See you or hear us in a week or so.