WEBVTT - AEW Dissapointment?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back. I'm back here on the show. Yesterday I

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<v Speaker 1>was gone, we uh we went north and we were

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<v Speaker 1>not going to make it back on time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had my main man, semper vv step in. And today

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<v Speaker 1>I shall pay back that favor as I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>show here today and simper vv has a day off

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<v Speaker 1>and I will be joined in the next segment by

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<v Speaker 1>our own Lance Storm, who in fact will join us

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<v Speaker 1>for this entire program here today. And it's Thursday on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. You know that means man we have got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about, including yes last night, AW Dynamite.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you think of that show? What did you think

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<v Speaker 1>of the footage with CM punk and Jack Perry, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think of all of it? Well, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk today about what I thought of it as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Lance Storm, and I should add that I also

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<v Speaker 1>have some notes about yesterday and the belief internally about

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<v Speaker 1>where things are going from this point forward. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you are an AW fan and you were

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed by what happened last night, didn't like it, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully what I have heard is true, and so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that here today on the program. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>also got a whole bunch of ratings notes, some notes

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<v Speaker 1>on the Rock and how much money he got for

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<v Speaker 1>Mania weekend, and I think it's a pretty good chance

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<v Speaker 1>based on all of this, we're going to see Rock

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling again because that dude made a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll also take your feedback as well. That's got

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<v Speaker 1>the AW pay per view schedule for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Coming back here to Seattle. Looks like the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle area it's going to be like an annual tradition

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<v Speaker 1>for that Wrestle Dream Show anyway, lot talk about we'll

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, Brian Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Lance Storm is joining us here today as I dink

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<v Speaker 1>around with this thing right here, Lance, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Not too much? Just ready to talk dynamite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have to talk dynamite here, and before before

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<v Speaker 1>we get in all of that, we should we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the important thing, Lance, and that is your health.

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<v Speaker 1>How you feeling feeling.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot better? Doctor put me on prednazone for five

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<v Speaker 6>days to see if it can help my breathing issues,

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<v Speaker 6>and it certainly seems to have helped. So I'm sleeping

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<v Speaker 6>and feeling a thousand times better.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent news. So now what's what's next? I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be on prednazone forever.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the hope is that the prednic zone will knock

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<v Speaker 6>down whatever is bothering my nasal passages bad enough that

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<v Speaker 6>we can maintain afterwards without it. So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, good luck, Lance, I know it's been rough, trust,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard about it. All right, everybody, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Shall I start, Lance or would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to to begin?

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So here's the deal, everybody. I watched the footage, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know many times I you know something's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my job to analyze, predict whatever, okay, And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times, you know, something will I'll make some

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<v Speaker 1>prediction or something like that, and and sometimes I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was not expecting that, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>actually better than I expect, okay. And then there are

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<v Speaker 1>other times where I make some predictions, I make some whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the thing happens and I'm like, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking going in. This is what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought about last night. I honestly have absolutely no idea

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<v Speaker 1>why they aired that footage. I cannot, for the life

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<v Speaker 1>of me figure it out. Because the thing is, Cmpunk

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<v Speaker 1>had his side of the story that he gave on

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<v Speaker 1>Ariel Hiljuane's show, and apparently Tony was furious and decided

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to air the footage. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that, you know, I figured, okay, well, in some

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<v Speaker 1>way this footage has to make, you know, see mpunk

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<v Speaker 1>look very bad, and it was the footage that got

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<v Speaker 1>him fired, by the way, And so I had the

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<v Speaker 1>other question though, which is the people that are showing

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<v Speaker 1>this footage in storyline are going to be the young

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<v Speaker 1>bucks their heels and you know this involves Jack Perry,

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<v Speaker 1>who is currently working as a heel and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>this big shirt that says scapegoat on it. And it

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<v Speaker 1>also like how's it gonna be handled? This whole deal

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<v Speaker 1>where Tony Kahan said that he felt like his life

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<v Speaker 1>was in danger. These are the things that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure out when they are this footage. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I will say they did this because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how they were going to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was baffled when I was told that this was

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<v Speaker 1>going to play into a storyline leading to the pay

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<v Speaker 1>per view. I thought, how okay. Now, whether you like

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<v Speaker 1>how they did it or not, the fact is they

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<v Speaker 1>did try. And the storyline was the Young Bucks were

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for their match with FTR at Wembley. This

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<v Speaker 1>incident happened in the back before the match. They had

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<v Speaker 1>to put on their EVP caps go handle the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>They were totally out of wrestler mode. They got it

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<v Speaker 1>all handled and then they had to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>ring all flustered or whatever, and they lost to FTR.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is time that's not gonna happen. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>story they told. Okay, fine, they try to do something

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it into a pay per view angle. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was obvious watching the video that cmpunk was the aggressor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Perry did not aggressively approach him. C mpunk went

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<v Speaker 1>right up to the guy and they had a long conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, there's all these other people around, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what was said in the confrontation, but like

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<v Speaker 1>all the people surrounding them, I mean, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>they clearly heard that something was going on, but they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't appear like, oh my god, we got to break

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<v Speaker 1>this up before it escalates. Just you know, they had

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of confrontation. We have no idea what they

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<v Speaker 1>said because there was no audio. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever Jack Perry said, whether it's what are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do about it? Or whatever, you know, Punk Boom shoved him.

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<v Speaker 1>Once Boom shoved him twice. Jack Perry comes forward, Punk

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<v Speaker 1>grabs his head. Was it a choke, was it a

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<v Speaker 1>front face lock? We don't know because we couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, there was no moment where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some Ojoe politely asked Punk to let go, and Punk

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<v Speaker 1>Lego Joe rushed in there, and man, he tore these

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<v Speaker 1>dudes apart. The entire thing from the first shove to

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<v Speaker 1>them being torn apart was less than six seconds. The

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<v Speaker 1>actual front headlock, choke whatever it was less than four seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was boom immediately broken up in the melee,

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<v Speaker 1>some monitors. You know, we heard that monitors went flying.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't go flying, but there were monitors that were

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<v Speaker 1>knocked around and people were trying to fix the monitors.

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<v Speaker 1>Punk's you know, rear end banged into them and they

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<v Speaker 1>started falling all over the place. And then when they

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<v Speaker 1>were broken up, you know, you could you could see

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tony Kahan's hand and like part of his

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<v Speaker 1>face trying to get him away from the monitors. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Chrishierro comes from behind the monitors to help break

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<v Speaker 1>them up, and boy to that guy looked miserable. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Punk does, you know, go straight towards Tony Khan

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<v Speaker 1>and Cris Hero got between him and Tony Khan and

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<v Speaker 1>Punk was not getting past Chris Hero, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>was dragged away and away they went. And when it

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<v Speaker 1>was over, I mean, I thought, you know this this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Punk did look somewhat crazed, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was immediately held back I don't know how Tony

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<v Speaker 1>felt that his life was in danger, So having seen that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he heard the footage. And then

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<v Speaker 1>number two, it's like Jack Perry, whatever he said verbally physically,

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<v Speaker 1>he did not do anything. He did not do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not go after see him punk. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not like he was attacked in this segment. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having watched the video and knowing that dude's been gone

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<v Speaker 1>for seven months, seven months has been gone because of this,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when the Young Bucks are there and

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Scott his Scapegoat shirt, hun, It's like, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy comes up with a scapegoat. He's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a heel. They've already apparently completely sold out of Scapegoat

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<v Speaker 1>T shirts, So like, how this is making him a heel?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no earthly idea. You know, the Young Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>ran in and they got cmpunk Chance, which, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's gonna be a thing in aw where every

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<v Speaker 1>week we have to here cmpunk Chance, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>to me a disaster. And you know that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my thoughts on everything. They spent all this time angry

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<v Speaker 1>at somebody in WWE. They went immediately to Will Osprey

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<v Speaker 1>cutting a promo on Triple H. As a viewer, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there for twenty minutes watching Tony Kahan get what

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<v Speaker 1>he feels is his revenge on WWE on an aw show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am just begging for them to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess before we talk more, Lance, your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on what we saw last night.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't mind it as much as you did, I

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<v Speaker 6>think because I looked at it more as I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>a wrestling viewer, like I haven't followed as much of

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<v Speaker 6>the backstage bs as you have, so it's like it

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<v Speaker 6>ended up being far better than I expected. I expected

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<v Speaker 6>it to be pretty bad, but it's like it came

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<v Speaker 6>off like the Young Bucks coming up with a lame

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<v Speaker 6>excuse on why they lost their match, and I thought

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<v Speaker 6>Matt saying, we're gonna air the footage, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's really just like some high school garbage and it

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<v Speaker 6>really isn't much, which I thought was good to downplay

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<v Speaker 6>it because it did come off as very high school.

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<v Speaker 6>One guy shoved the other guy, one guy charged at

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<v Speaker 6>him to take him down, and they were broken up.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, yeah, that's the level of fight you see

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<v Speaker 6>in high school. Because I've seen far better backstage fights

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<v Speaker 6>than this one, So it was just they showed some

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<v Speaker 6>footage that really didn't amount to anything, tried to turn

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<v Speaker 6>it into an angle. Now. I do think a good

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<v Speaker 6>quality video package would have made me more interested in

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<v Speaker 6>the Bucks FDR match, but it wasn't as bad as

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<v Speaker 6>I expected it to be. You say, Jungle Boy is

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<v Speaker 6>a heel. He may be in New Japan, but he

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<v Speaker 6>hasn't been established that in AAW. I think he's got

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<v Speaker 6>to come back as a baby face because he came

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<v Speaker 6>off like a scapegoat. It's like this guy was gone

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<v Speaker 6>for that. It's like he was fixing his hair. A

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<v Speaker 6>guy shoved him, he tried to take him down. The

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<v Speaker 6>takedown got stuffed, probably partially because Punk hit the desk

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<v Speaker 6>and it was broken up. It's like, I've seen way worse.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll talk about this more after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>For you, were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Albarez and Mike SIMPERVV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on the show, Bryan Alberaz here Wrestling Observer Live,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike simber vv not here today Lance is joining us

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<v Speaker 1>and during the break there were some comments in the chat,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll address a few of those. First off, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said, as far as like turning

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<v Speaker 1>it into a storyline, I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they could have done anything better, because I couldn't conceive

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<v Speaker 1>of anything working. But the young Bucks using that as

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<v Speaker 1>a heel excuse for why they lost. They were busy

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with something else because they are evp's and and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know Dax and Cash coming out, they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>their promo. What can we get over this and everything?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was it was I think the best

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<v Speaker 1>they could have done. So I don't really have anything. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if they decided they were going to show it, then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with they ended up doing

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Okay. Now the other thing is, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on with Jack Perry? And you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>have mentioned he's not actually suspended right now, which is

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<v Speaker 1>which is the case? Okay, So we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>a while ago. What happened with Jack is that the

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<v Speaker 1>thing happened and then they you know, he's got sent home.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was in like late August, early September. I

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<v Speaker 1>forget when the show was. I think the very end

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<v Speaker 1>of August, but he just you know, I believe no

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<v Speaker 1>communication whatsoever. Its the same thing at all of these suspensions,

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<v Speaker 1>when when something happens, there's an investigation, there's like no

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<v Speaker 1>communication whatsoever. And so he was gone, and he would

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<v Speaker 1>have been suspended for at least two months because there

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<v Speaker 1>was no discussion of bringing him back until November. And

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<v Speaker 1>around November there was an idea in motion to bring

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<v Speaker 1>him back, but Cmpunk showed up at Survivor series and

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<v Speaker 1>Tony scrapped the idea. Now why I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did. As soon as cmpunk came back to WWE,

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<v Speaker 1>he scrapped the idea of the return of Jungle Boy. So, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if the reason is he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid cmpunk chants, that's quite ironic today. But anyway, so he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no plans for return. And that's when you

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<v Speaker 1>know Jack and Rocky Romero and Tony Kahan. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like a shoot. But they eventually all

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<v Speaker 1>got together and set up Jack's run in New Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the fact is, Tony wasn't planning on using him,

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<v Speaker 1>so he wasn't suspended the entire time, but until very recently,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been no plans to bring him back now

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<v Speaker 1>obvious probably in the last you know, two three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see things that Jack has been doing. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see things that Young Buck as Young Bucks have

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<v Speaker 1>been doing. You saw this whole thing there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my guess is, I know you think otherwise, Lance, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Jack Perry is returning at the pay

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<v Speaker 1>per view and he's gonna help screw FTR. Young Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna win the tag team titles and they will

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<v Speaker 1>be a heel trio. That's where I think they're going here.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the update on what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Perry and his his status with AW.

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<v Speaker 6>All Right, I would rather see him be the third

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<v Speaker 6>to FTR because he's a scapegoat because the office treated

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<v Speaker 6>him poorly, and the Bucks are the office and they

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<v Speaker 6>already have ocado for their trio. They don't need another one.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose as possible he can return and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks think he's gonna be helping them, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he helps FTR. You could, you could definitely do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but but we shall see. So anyway, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>that's the story of the footage and the whole shebang,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, that's what they did. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>this because I talked to a lot of people last night,

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<v Speaker 1>okay in AW and by the way, like, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a well, it's gonna be interesting to see the

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<v Speaker 1>rating because this was a This was viewed by a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. I heard from people in WWE that

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody was talking about it, which obviously they would

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<v Speaker 1>because see them Punk was involved, and you know, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in a w was talking about it. Now did they

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<v Speaker 1>did they actually watch it on television? Did they see

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<v Speaker 1>it on Twitter? I mean the first place I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it was Twitter, but I mean I watch on a delay.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like you couldn't find it on social

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<v Speaker 1>media yesterday. It was everywhere. They did try like all

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<v Speaker 1>night to try to take it down, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I saw it everywhere on social media. So

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling that I heard from from the people in

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<v Speaker 1>AW is going in. I don't want to say everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously I didn't talk to everybody or even nearly everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but people talk and in general, I mean, the vast,

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority, we're like, why are we doing this? I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe we're gonna show this? Why? Very upset, disappointed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is this ship sinking? Like, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing here? So the footage aired, I heard a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the same. I can't believe that this was aired.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe blah blah blah. But I did hear this,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is that. You know, this is not from

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Khan, but this is. This is what people have

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<v Speaker 1>said regarding Tony. They believe that he has now gotten

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<v Speaker 1>this out of his system and he is ready to

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<v Speaker 1>just move on, look past it. It's done. I showed

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<v Speaker 1>my footage, Like he wanted to show this footage months

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<v Speaker 1>and months and months ago, but for whatever reason, whether

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<v Speaker 1>he decided that it was a bad idea or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>talked him out of it, he didn't. But allegedly he

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<v Speaker 1>is saying it's done, We're moving on. The footage is aired.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just move on with this and for what it's worth. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard from a lot of people that did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to see it aired. They were disappointed that

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<v Speaker 1>it aired, but they were like, you know what, like

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<v Speaker 1>this has got to be rock a bottom. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to move on. It's time to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of this mode, go back to do an aw, concentrate

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<v Speaker 1>on ourselves, that is the feeling. Now. Whether that is

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<v Speaker 1>the case, whether you know, next Wednesday on Dynamite we

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<v Speaker 1>have another wacky thing or whatever, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is what I heard from people there today. You know, universally,

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling is, you know, we did it, It's over

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<v Speaker 1>and let's move on.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's hope because on the whole it was a pretty

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<v Speaker 6>good show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I know you want to talk about this Dustin

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<v Speaker 1>match with Joe, which I very much liked. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the opening match and I thought the main

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<v Speaker 1>event were both like excellent matches. You know, Adam Copeland

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<v Speaker 1>Edge versus Pentagon. Never thought i'd see it, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was a very good match. And then the main event

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<v Speaker 1>with Dustin and Simoe Joe was very good, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was non title and I don't want to go on

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<v Speaker 1>this rant, so I'll let you do it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I liked the starting of the show with Swerve

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<v Speaker 6>jumping Joe and giving the show a bit of a oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we're on the edge of our seat.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say that on byline, brother.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know, I apologize, but I think it would

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<v Speaker 6>have been so much better if it was a title match,

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<v Speaker 6>because then there is the Swerve jumps Joe. He's not

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<v Speaker 6>only mad at Joe, but mad that he's putting the

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<v Speaker 6>title on the line before the pay per view, which

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<v Speaker 6>is why so he took out Joe, hoping that he

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<v Speaker 6>couldn't defend the title here because he wants his title shot.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you've got the suspense of will Joe be

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<v Speaker 6>able to fight and have this match. They say Joe's

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<v Speaker 6>going to continue, and you have the announcers play up

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<v Speaker 6>the drama of Swerve really screwed up here because Joe's

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<v Speaker 6>not one hundred percent. Dustin might beat him now, and

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<v Speaker 6>if he does, Swerve misses out on his title shot

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<v Speaker 6>at the pay per view. So then you can hype

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<v Speaker 6>that the whole match, you can show Joe in damaged condition,

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<v Speaker 6>and you build this main event that now has even

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<v Speaker 6>more possibility because there wasn't much before that Dustin could

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<v Speaker 6>win because Swerve screwed up and injured Joe. And I

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<v Speaker 6>think you would have had so much more drama. You

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<v Speaker 6>could have thrown the show, checked on Joe to see

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<v Speaker 6>what kind of state he's in, and I think you

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<v Speaker 6>could have made the match even more interesting. And then

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<v Speaker 6>again you still have Joe go over and then you

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<v Speaker 6>do the angle at the with swerve, so you're right

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<v Speaker 6>back where you ended up. But I think you could

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<v Speaker 6>have created more drama and a little bit of doubt

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<v Speaker 6>that darn maybe Dustin's gonna pull this off because Swerve

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<v Speaker 6>hurt Joe would have been so much better. In my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I said going in, it should be

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<v Speaker 1>a title match, and it'll be thirty seconds, guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll move on. I hate these stupid rankings, all of

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<v Speaker 1>these decisions they make. If there are no rankings, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, Okay, but the fact that there are rankings

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got a situation where we can't give Dustin

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<v Speaker 1>a title shot because he's not the number one contender

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But you know, Layla Hirsh who's had no

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<v Speaker 1>matches on AW in over two years, She's getting a

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>title match on Friday, And Mercedes Monnet, who's never even

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<v Speaker 1>been in the company ever, is just gifted a title

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<v Speaker 1>shot coming up with the pay per view in a

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>segment that was built around rankings and the number one contendership.

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<v Speaker 1>If you just got rid of the rankings, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't no matter what you do. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>no rankings. Adding the rankings has made all of this

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<v Speaker 1>make no sense. So anyway, I'm done. I know people hate.

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<v Speaker 6>It not to mention when they cope opened and they

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<v Speaker 6>just randomly give anybody who comes out of title shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is that, but hey, at least that it's

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like that's his gimmick. He's willing to give anybody a

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>championship match. So okay, that doesn't bother me as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Aw did announce the upcoming schedule. These are all the

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<v Speaker 1>pay per views and locations from now until the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. Dynamite will be in Saint Louis, Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>or Dynasty on April twenty first. We know that one

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<v Speaker 1>double or Nothing at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in

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<v Speaker 1>couple of notes from WrestleMania, which I want to tie

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<v Speaker 1>into everything we've been talking about here today. So The Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>after his match Saturday night, his tag match, he was

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<v Speaker 1>it was reported inn SEC filing that he was given

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven thousand shares of TKO stock worth nine million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>So he now has one hundred and ninety three thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixteen shares. This was part of his

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<v Speaker 1>deal to join the board, and that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money for a match if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it from the perspective of I did a match and

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<v Speaker 1>I got nine million dollars. Thing with Rock is he

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<v Speaker 1>is a gigantic worldwide movie star, maybe the biggest on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know he can make a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>doing movies. So if you want him to do a

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<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania match, if you want him to do a WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>next year with Cody the year after with Roman Reigns,

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<v Speaker 1>or however they end up doing it, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>pay this dude. And this is an interesting way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it by giving him stock worth X amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, he made a lot of money for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the raw number, which I'm sure Mike

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned yesterday, I mean that raw show on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the show did two point three six

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<v Speaker 1>million viewers a zero point eight three in eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine. They have not done a number like that

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<v Speaker 1>since pre pandemic. You have to go back five years

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<v Speaker 1>when way more people were watching television than our nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>to get a point eight three. In eighteen to forty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestle Nomics had the quarters. The rock Cody Roads promo

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<v Speaker 1>segment did three million viewers a one point oh four

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen to forty nine, and in quarter three did

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<v Speaker 1>three point two million viewers and a one point one

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<v Speaker 1>point one in eighteen to forty nine. This was on

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<v Speaker 1>a night where there was a basketball game that air

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<v Speaker 1>across TBSTNT and True TV, which did fourteen point eight

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<v Speaker 1>million viewers and a three point eight eight in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to forty nine. So doing the number that Raw did

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<v Speaker 1>on that night with that competition is pretty much it's inconceivable,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say. And then of course NXT on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>did well six hundred and forty one thousand viewers and

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<v Speaker 1>a point two zero, which is an excellent demo, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually is only a that was actually very close to dynamite.

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<v Speaker 1>The last two weeks that point two zero and uh. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the point is, as we can all see, the company

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<v Speaker 1>is on fire. And so one of the things we

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:11.399
<v Speaker 1>were talking about yesterday in terms of AW is they're

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<v Speaker 1>not beating WWE right now. There's no chance the gap

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<v Speaker 1>is I mean, they're so far apart, and why try.

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<v Speaker 1>What you need to do is concentrate on AW. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to compare, you know whatever, don't be okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we want to equal or beat RAW. What

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<v Speaker 1>you should be looking at is can we equal or

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<v Speaker 1>beat what we did last year? Can we beat our

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<v Speaker 1>own numbers? That's what I think that they should be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's time to ignore WWE. Do your

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<v Speaker 1>own thing. Boom away you go. You're competing with yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>not a company that right now is in the stratosphere.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Think I said it yesterday on threads because I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not a participant on Twitter. You yield the most fruit

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<v Speaker 6>when you tend your own garden, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>a good plan. Grow your own business and don't worry

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<v Speaker 6>about the farm next door.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you watch this week? Lance?

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<v Speaker 6>I watched I've already watched the Impact show that airs tonight,

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<v Speaker 6>which is tremendous. And I watched Dynamite last night in

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<v Speaker 6>this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And you watched no WrestleMania, none of the matches.

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<v Speaker 6>I did not know. I was still suffering my breathing

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<v Speaker 6>and sleep tiredness. Things got better Tuesday night for me,

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<v Speaker 6>so I did very little otherwise. Start of reading ago.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that book?

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<v Speaker 6>It's a Rusty Puppy. It's one of the happen Lettered

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<v Speaker 6>books by Joe R. Lansdale. It was a TV series

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<v Speaker 6>on HBO or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Briefly, well, I want to mention the upcoming lineup so

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk more about Dynamite. So they've announced this

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<v Speaker 1>coming Friday on SmackDown. We'll have appearances from Cody, Rhoades

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and Bailey, so SmackDown should do a huge number. We

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<v Speaker 1>have got a three hour block of aw on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>night because it is Collision followed by Battle of the

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<v Speaker 1>Belts ten and Collision has Tony Storm and a Zuomie

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<v Speaker 1>in a title eliminator match, So if a Zoomie wins,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets a title shot. And keep in mind they

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<v Speaker 1>have a pay per view next week where Tony's putting

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the title on the line. We have Brian Danielson and

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<v Speaker 1>Claudio versus Hobbes and Fletcher. And then for Battle of

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<v Speaker 1>the Belts, which is a one hour television show called

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Battle of the Belts, Hook is defending the FTW title,

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<v Speaker 1>which like in storyline, is not even recognized by AW

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>against Shane Taylor. And the other match is Roderick Strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Rocky Romero in a non title match un Battle

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<v Speaker 1>of the Belts, a title eliminator. So you know, I've

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>been watching these Battle of the Belts for for well

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>ten of them now, and it's always like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have like a title change, make people

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>want to watch Battle of the Belts. Do something. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're now down to an unrecognized title and a non

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>title match as your two matches announced us far for

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<v Speaker 1>Battle of the Belts. So there is that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Raw Monday Week.

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<v Speaker 6>Hasn't Roddy been doing the Hometown Open Challenge where he

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<v Speaker 6>actually defends the title against nobody's but Rocky's not worthy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is what they're doing. Then we've got Ron Montreal,

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>sammy's Ay and Chad Gable for the Intercontinental title, and

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>my guess is that Sammy beats him and so Sammy

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a win in his hometown. But then they

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>will do the Heat and have Bronson Reid kill Sammy

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and he'll be the next title challenger, and Andrade faces

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Dominic Mysterio and then for NXT they advertise a lot

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and one of them I thought was very clever. So

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Trick comes out well. First off, we had Axiem and

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Fraser winning the tag title, so brown Breaker is

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<v Speaker 1>going up to the main roster. He's done, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Baron as well. I don't know what's up with Baron,

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<v Speaker 1>but Carmelo Hayes returned. Basically, Trick Williams came out and

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<v Speaker 1>he wants a title shot against Elia. Eliot told him, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Trick goes. What do I got to do to get

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<v Speaker 1>a title shot? Alia says, you have to take the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest risk of your life, the biggest gamble. I will

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<v Speaker 1>face you in two weeks at Spring Breaking. If you lose,

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<v Speaker 1>you must leave NXT. And I thought that was very clever,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know everybody has been talking about out. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to call up Trick Williams. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they should, but it is absolutely something that has been

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<v Speaker 1>talked about ever since that SmackDown show where he showed

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<v Speaker 1>up on SmackDown and all of these fans in this

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<v Speaker 1>building are chanting with that trick. So the office saw

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<v Speaker 1>that and they were like, whoa, this dude's over and

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<v Speaker 1>these fans at SmackDown know the gimmick. So is he leaving?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he winning the title? Is Ilia leaving? I mean,

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 1>we know that Elly has declared for the draft, so

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<v Speaker 1>he appears to be leaving. So my guess is Trick

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<v Speaker 1>does win the title and stays. But adding the you

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<v Speaker 1>must leave if you lose does make it make it interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and they added that next week on NXT it is

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<v Speaker 1>Trick versus Carmelo in a cage match. They're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>stip next week, so that's.

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<v Speaker 6>That, yeah, all right, And the week after that they're

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<v Speaker 6>doing the match where Trick will either be the champion

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 6>or he'll be doing a job before he gets called up,

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<v Speaker 6>which was the defense of why he wasn't getting a

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<v Speaker 6>title shot at Stand and Deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, exactly all right. Other thoughts from Dynamite Adam

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Copeland Penta. I thought that was a very good match.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>I really enjoyed it, and I thought it was refreshing

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 6>to see Adam break out some different stuff, so we're

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 6>not just seeing the hits from the older guys, We're

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<v Speaker 6>seeing some new stuff. So I really enjoyed it. Thought

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<v Speaker 6>it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like this comparison has been made before, but

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I do like seeing guys like Sting and Adam Copeland

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 1>essentially going out there and being terry funk because like

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>if you if you look at Randy Orton, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>love Randy Orton. I think he's awesome. I have been

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>loving his Matches to death of late, but he's doing

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>He's doing his two thousand and two Randy Orton. He's

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>just always gonna do that. And Case. I actually like

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it because one guy working that style on the rest

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>of the show where everyone's doing all the craziness, I mean,

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I love it, but Edge Adam Copeland is not being edge.

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not going out there and doing his two hundred

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and twenty twelve gimmick and matches and Stings certainly was not.

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're going out there and they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hang and Copeland doing tilta world head scissors, I mean

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>his head. The first head scissors he did was a

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>head scissors from the seventies. But nobody does it I

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it was he was trying to do like a

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>lucha match out there with Penta, So I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it a lot. And then they set up

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other matches for Dynasty and next week,

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>next week it is uh, it is Willow and Adam

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Copeland versus Brody and Julia Hart. And for reasons I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot explain, I shouldn't even say this because people are

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna get mad. But like, unless the reason is Malachi

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>will not do a job, I have no idea why

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not Malachi versus Adam Copeland at the at the

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Dynasty show, it's a random six man tag. We could

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<v Speaker 1>have that on Dynamite, Like this should be a championship

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>match on the show, But for whatever reason, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing that singles match and I cannot explain it. We

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<v Speaker 1>also have we had the segment with Hook and Jericho

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<v Speaker 1>and Sabbata which led to the six man which was Hook,

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<v Speaker 1>Jericho and Shabbata versus Moriarty, Taylor and a Go Go

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and they pinned Shebata in this match. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it after the break because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get Lance's thoughts on Jericho back in the moment

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<v Speaker 1>Observer Live walls following through them just as well the.

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<v Speaker 5>Game in get some Games Storm you will be.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be again farther korns in between.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the cool Cool Morning Turn the days of Swim.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, living right is easy.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Life with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to mention regarding the Jericho segment that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's because there have been some

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<v Speaker 1>booze for Jericho lately, but when they started this thing

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>with Hook, like the whole thing was Hook knew who

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.959
<v Speaker 1>he was. Jericho claimed, We're gonna be on the same

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>page here, and they were really, you know, you don't know,

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 1>is Jericho gonna, you know, be a babyface here and

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>help this guy? Is he gonna turn on him at

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 1>some point? Like what's gonna happen? And like all of

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:50.959
<v Speaker 1>a sudden last night it was like we skipped forward

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>a month and Jericho is fully a heel like he

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not even they're not even being subtle about it.

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You need to sit under the learning tree of Christ, Jericho.

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>You do what I say. I was like, man, that

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>was abrupt.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it felt like they skipped about two months of stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>It was aar Yeah. Although one thing I will give

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 6>them credit for. We've complained a lot about predictable matchups.

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 6>I would have predicted Jericho side won this thing, So

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.760
<v Speaker 6>it was nice to have the team I didn't expect

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 6>to win win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you know there are there are a lot

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of matches in aw where you always know who is

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<v Speaker 1>going to win, and I do like every now and

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>then we actually get something where we were surprised. I

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:43.839
<v Speaker 1>was I was not expecting Lee Moriarty to pin Shabbata

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<v Speaker 1>in this match, but that is what happened. Well, listen, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to wrap this show up for today. But

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<v Speaker 1>tonight it's the Brian and Vinnie Show, and Vinnie and

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be back tomorrow with more. Thanks Lance Mike,

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