1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia for this Wednesday, March twenty 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: second in Hong Kong, Tuesday March twenty first in New York, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: and coming up today. US equities rise with a rally 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: in bank stocks, and the FETE now faces a close 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: call on whether to hike or hold great steady. The 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Biden administration appears to be making it even more difficult 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: for chip companies operating in China, and Nike sales beat 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: expectations despite weak results in China. The USS President she 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: is parroting Russia's demands for peace. The US changes course 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: on sending Abram's tanks to Ukraine. Japan Prime Minister keishatas 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: at Ukraine. I'm at Baxter with Global News. That's all 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, the business news you 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: need to start your day in just one fifteen minute 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: podcast available on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business app, and 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm de Prisoner 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: and I'm Brian Curtiz. Here are the stories we're following today. 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: The FED facing a close call here on whether to 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: hike or hold interest rates. Bloomberg's Michael McKee has a preview. 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: This is the first meeting in a very long time 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: where nobody on Wall Street really knows what the Fed 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: will do. Two weeks ago, it was a question of 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: whether they raised rates half or a quarter percentage point, 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: But disruptions to the banking system now have many investors 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: betting the central Bank won't raise rates at all. Financial 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: shares have calmed a bit in the last two days 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: and markets have almost gotten back to pricing one quarter 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: point move. Do FED officials still need to do crisis 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: management or can they go back to their focus on inflation, 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: which remains far above target. Almost as important, what do 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: they say about future rate moves and how their tightening 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: cycle and the banks have affected the outlook for inflation, 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: growth and unemployment. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. So now 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: let's get to the FTIC. We are hearing that US 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: officials are studying ways that they could possibly, at least 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: on a temporary basis, expand a level of insurance coverage 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: for deposits, all deposits at US banks. The Treasury Department 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: staff has been reviewing whether federal regulators have enough emergency 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: authority to at least temporarily ensure these deposits have insurance 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: above the current cap. That's a quarter of a million dollars. 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: We are told authorities don't yet have such a view 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: as to whether or not this move is even necessary. Still, 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: they are developing a strategy out of due diligence in 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: the case the situation becomes a lot worse, Treasury Secretary 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen said the US is prepared to repeat the 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: actions it took recently to protect bank depositors. If smaller 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: lenders are threatened. We will need to re examine our 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: current regulatory and supervisory regimes and consider whether they are 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: appropriate for the risk the banks face today. Treasury Secretary Yellen. 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: There she did not direct fully addressed the possibility of 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: a temporary expansion to FDI deposit insurance. She also said 51 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: she would not speculate on the kind of regulatory changes 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: that may be needed in the wake of this month's 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: stress within the banking system. Bran Well, we're hearing that 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: UBS wants to cherry pick top dealmakers from Credit Suiz 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: following the takeover of the investment bank. We get more 56 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: here from Bloomberg's Eric Lamb. UBS is set to be 57 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: particularly interested in advisory bankers in the United States and 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: those covering prominent industries such as technology. We hear that 59 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: UBS executives wants bolster their own investment bank while dumping 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: riskier operations. That could include dropping a Credit Suiez plan 61 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: to carve out CS First Boston as a new competitor. 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: The Financial Times had reported that UBS would talk with 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: cs former board member Michael Klein to unwind that deal. 64 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: The spinoff had been a centerpiece of Credit Sweezes restructuring. Still, 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: some Credit sweet staff are holding out hope that an 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: alternative plan can be lined up. In Hong Kong, I'm 67 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Eric Lamb Bloomberg Day Break Asia in Washington. The Biden 68 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: administration is making it even more difficult for those semiconductor 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: companies operating in China. We have that from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 70 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: The administration is moving to titan restrictions on new operations 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: in China by chip manufacturers if they get federal funds 72 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: to build. In the US, the fifty billion dollars Chip 73 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: in Science AC pass last year could block firms that 74 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: win grants from expanding output by more than five percent 75 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: for new technology and ten percent for older tech. This 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: also includes one hundred thousand dollars spending cap on investments 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: in advanced capacity in China. It's all part of Washington's 78 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: efforts to curb China's ambitions while securing supply of components 79 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: for AI supercomputers and everyday electronics in the US. Intel, Samsung, 80 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: and Taiwan Semi are among those currently operating in China. 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: The rules will be finalized by the Commerce Department later 82 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: this year after a sixty day public comment period. Denise 83 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: Pellegrini Bloomberg Day Break Asia. Nike reported robust quarterly sales 84 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: that rose fourteen percent to twelve point four billion. Analysts 85 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: were eleven point five billion. However, the company did miss 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: on profitability and its gross margins were a little weaker 87 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: than expected. The sports where brand made progress in dealing 88 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: with a supply glut that forced the company to discount merchandise. 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Inventories were up sixteen percent from the prior year. The 90 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: company had reported a forty three percent jump though the 91 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: previous quarter. Despite the positive results, weakness in China did persist. 92 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Revenue there fell almost eight percent. We heard earlier from 93 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg'spoon and Goil China didn't do as well as everyone 94 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: had expected, but it was still up one percent on 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: a constant currency basis. And I think the key witha 96 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: China is not the quarter that they reported, but the 97 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: quarters that they will report in the coming year, because 98 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: that's when we really think China will show a meaningful 99 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: bounce back. Even that's when COVID restrictions were actually eased. 100 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: So we're still very optimistic on China. Shares it down 101 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: about two and a quarter percent in late trading as 102 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: investors are focused on possibly that RGIN miss doug And 103 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: also something to consider here is that with revenue up 104 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: twelve percent, even though your revenue with down eight percent 105 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: in China, some may focus on that as a positive 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: given that China at some point is expected to come 107 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: back well. And if you look at the fact that 108 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: they've really been dealing with bloated inventory for a while, right, 109 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: and the only way to kind of liquidate or at 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: least bring down those inventory levels maybe is through discounting. 111 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: So it's not surprising that you're going to see a 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: little bit of pressure on gross margin, right if you're 113 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of lowering prices, and it it was quite modest too. 114 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: The gross margin was forty three point three percent. That 115 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: was just under the forty three point seven percent estimates, 116 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: so not even a full percentage point. We did have 117 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: equity prices moving higher, which, as we mentioned, was a 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: little surprising given the climate. We also had big rallies 119 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: in Europe, and it looks like Asia will open higher 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: as well. A couple of themes that seem to be 121 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: holding sway, interested in your thoughts on that. Obviously, One 122 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: is that these coordinated efforts to limit the damage from 123 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: the banking turmoil seemed to be taking hold with investors, 124 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: and then investors seem to be comfortable with a twenty 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: five basis point hiked by the FED. The swamps market 126 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: at the moment just under an eighty two probability that 127 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: we'll get that quarter percentage point hike tomorrow. Yeah. That said, though, 128 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: the volatility that we have seen in US treasuries, particularly 129 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: over the last several sessions, has been stunning, and our 130 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: colleagues on Bloomberg Surveillance, we're speaking with Matthew Michigan over 131 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: at John Hancock earlier. He was saying that he is 132 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: certain that the FED has run out of runway for 133 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: a soft landing, So you tighten here, maybe another twenty 134 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: five basis points. Probability is much greater where recession is concerned. 135 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: But the other thing that he said that I was 136 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: struck by. When you see volatility in the two year 137 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: treasuries yield start to act like a meme stock, you 138 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: know you've got problems. Yeah, absolutely, I mean that is 139 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: a very astute comment. Now it's I'm for Global News. 140 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, we have Layla Pence coming up 141 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: in a few moments, President of Pennce Wealth Management, taking 142 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: a look at these wild markets. Well, the US is 143 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: responding today to the comments coming out of the she 144 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Putin summit by saying that China is not taking the 145 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: right tact in bringing peace to Ukraine. It backs it 146 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: with that story in the Global News from the nine 147 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: sixty news room in San Francisco, ed right on target 148 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Brian fiery comments coming from National Security Council spokesman John Kirby. 149 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: He and his regime keeps parting the Russian propaganda that 150 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: this is somehow a war of the West on Russia, 151 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: that it's some sort of existential threats to mister Putin. 152 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: That's just a bunch of molarchy. Ukraine posed no threat 153 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: to anybody, let alone Russian and directed at President The 154 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: two sides just said, quote, the purposes and principles of 155 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: the UN Charter must be observed, an international law must 156 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: be respected. Well, we agree, following the UN Charter would 157 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: mean that Russia withdrawal from all the territory inside Ukraine, 158 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: the territory of another member state of the UN. And 159 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Kirby's she to meet for one only. He's blowing through inventory, 160 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: He's blowing through manpower. His military is getting embarrassed constantly. 161 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: They've lost greater than fifty percent of the territory that 162 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: they took in the first few months of this war. 163 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: He needs help from President She and that's what this 164 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: visit was all about. Now, whether it results in anything, 165 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: we'll see, Yeah, Kirby says, so far, the US has 166 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: seen no evidence that She has promised more lethal aid. 167 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: As for She, he's offered to make closer ties with China. Now. 168 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: Spokesman Huang Wang band through a translator. Presidency is stressed 169 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: that's voices for peace and irrationality of building. Most of 170 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the countries are supposed to easing patience, stand for peace talks, 171 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: and are against adding fuel to the fire. His three 172 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: shows that's conflicts in the end have to be settled 173 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: us through dialogue and a negotiation and putin reacting that 174 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Moscow is looking through China's peace posle and hailing the 175 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: peace plans, saying that it is in line with things 176 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: he feels could work. Japan's Prime Minister Fumio Keisha has 177 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: travel to Ukraine for talks with President Voladimir Zelenski. He 178 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: becomes the final Group of Seven leader to visit since 179 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the invasion. It is the most visible show of support 180 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: coming from Japan. Kishiata plans to visit Poland as well 181 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: on his trip. Meanwhile, the US says it is readying 182 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: more military hardware to send a Ukraine. In a change 183 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: of direction, General pat Ryder says Abrams tanks will be 184 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: on their way. Beauty, in close coordination with Ukraine, has 185 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: made the decision to provide the M one A one 186 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: variant of the Abrams tank, which will enable US to 187 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: significantly expedite delivery timelines and deliver this important capability to 188 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: Ukraine by the fall of this year. It will also 189 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: outfit them with advanced machine and gun weaponry. China's new 190 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: ambassador to Japan has arrived in the country to take 191 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: his post. The statement says he's to maintain and develop 192 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: health and stable relations. His arrival puts him right in 193 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the semiconductor challenge as well, and Taiwan's presidents. 194 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Ian One has affirmed updates for her trip to the US. 195 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: She will travel from March twenty ninth to April seventh, 196 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: stopping first in New York before heading to Guatemala and Belize, 197 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: and then traveling through Los Angeles. On her return leg, 198 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: she'll meet with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Global News powered 199 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts and 200 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty countries in San Francisco. I'm 201 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 202 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis here in Hong Kong along with Vannie Quinn. 203 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Let's get to our guest, Layla Pennce, President Pennce Wealth Management. 204 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: So we're always trying to read the wisdom in the markets, 205 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: or at least the message of the markets. Laila, the 206 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: problem is which market. So if you look at the 207 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: stock market, we're right at the midpoint of a range 208 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: we've been in for ten months. It may have felt 209 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: volatilesom to some, but you know, we're between thirty eight 210 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: and forty two hundred here, almost right on four thousand. However, 211 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: in the bond market, tons of volatility. So I'm curious 212 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: why we see that big difference and whether or not 213 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: it's because of of repricing due to the FED. It 214 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: is definitely due to repricing to the FT. I mean, 215 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: before a SVB, the three or rate with over five percent, 216 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: and it looked like, you know, they're gonna they were 217 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: going to do fifty basis points and uh and even 218 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: more increases. And then of course as VB happens and 219 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: the world changed, I believe we have a much different 220 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: bond market because we have we're gonna have a different FED. 221 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: As you've been mentioning, you know, we expect at twenty 222 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: five basis point tomorrow and possibly pausing after that, really 223 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: following somewhat what the ISHB did. SHB had already said 224 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: fifty basiness point, and then the indication is there going 225 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: to be data dependent and I think the FED would 226 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: do the same, and that could signal certainly a pause 227 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: in the future, and that of course takes out that 228 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: five and six percent numbers that the market was expecting 229 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: before what happened to Circom Valley Bank Leila. Are we 230 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: about to have a banking crisis. It seems like we 231 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: might be through the worst of it, But these headlines 232 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: coming out post market now on First republic Bank and 233 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: the fact that it may have to rely on us 234 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: backing to facilitate a deal don't vote very well. I 235 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: think that our government and Federal Reserve and certainly its secretary, uh, 236 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: you know that they are definitely going to start They're 237 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: going to back up these banks. There's no way we 238 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: think they're going to let another SVP happens with First Republicans. 239 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: But it certainly is scary. I can tell you that 240 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of clients calling, and whether it's 241 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: big banks or regional banks, and they want their money 242 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: out because you know, they haven't been getting that much interest, 243 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: and now they're realizing that money market funds government money 244 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: market funds are yielding substansion over four percent, and so 245 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: now that money is being withdrawn and there's nothing that 246 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: could stop if you have a run in the bank. 247 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: Another problem, however, if they were to come out tomorrow 248 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: and ensure ad I s for a much larger deposits 249 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: amount of what that could calm the markets. But you know, 250 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I know yelling today said that they are ready to 251 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: do something like that, but really didn't come out and 252 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: say it's it's tempting to think that there's deep trouble 253 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: in the banking industry, But then when you see the 254 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: market performance over the past couple of days. I'm a 255 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: big believer in the market. It's why we do what 256 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,359 Speaker 1: we do. A five percent jumped today in the KBW 257 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: Banking Index. It would appear that investor, now, maybe that's 258 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: just because you know, we fell so precipitously last week 259 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: and this is a little bit of relief. But do 260 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: you think it has legs. I believe it has next 261 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: in the bigger banks. I'm so worried about the regional banks. 262 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I think the regional banks people are withdrawing their funds 263 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: and they're moving into the bigger banks where they feel 264 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: safer because the government said they're too big to fail. 265 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: So as long as there's money being withdrawn, I think 266 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: we need some additional action from the government who backstop 267 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: and protect the depositors more. That's the only way we 268 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: think they could help the regional banks right now, they're 269 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: getting a lot of withdrawals. I know, I'm seeing it 270 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: with my clients. What are you telling your clients, Leila, 271 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: you have to have a strong backbone to stay in 272 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: this market anywhere. Yeah, you know, it's very interesting. A 273 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: lot of clients are back to wanting to be more 274 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: in tech because you know. So that's an interesting twist 275 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: because you know, for the very first time we actually 276 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: see a light at the end of the tunnel comes 277 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: to interest rate increases, and we've been waiting for that. 278 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, we think they may have a pause after tomorrow, 279 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: and as you know, the stock market is already expecting 280 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: an actually decrease an interest rate at the end of 281 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: the year. We're not expecting that. But if we can 282 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: just pause, then we know the limits, we know the 283 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: terminal rate, and that will board work for the stock market. 284 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: And certainly still there's still some very high interest rates 285 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: on the short term that are available. So if we 286 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: get if we get a slowdown, and I know that 287 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: you're a little bit concerned about what's happening with regional banks, 288 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: If we get a slowdown, recession, light recession, something like that, 289 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: shallow does profitable big technology stand out as as as positive, 290 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: does defense, and does healthcare. Those are some of the 291 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: areas that you seem interested in. Yes, that's exactly why 292 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: we're expecting a slowdown. Certainly is going to be a 293 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: lot less especially in the cycle call, and we want 294 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: to be in the strongest area that do well regardless. 295 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about the Biden administrations just 296 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: requested eight hundred and eighty six billion dollars but depends 297 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: spending in the fiscal year twenty twenty four, that's a 298 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of money going to these to these companies less 299 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: beside the spending from a foreign governments as well. So 300 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: we feel very good about that. We think tech will 301 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: continue to do well, especially if interest rates basically go 302 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: down or just say the same. They still have growth 303 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: and certainly healthcare people still get sick regardless, So we 304 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: think those areas will tend to stand on their own 305 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: regardless from market conditions. And you can see that the 306 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: market it's certainly starting to favor those. When you say tech, Leila, 307 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: do you mean the mega cap tech names or are 308 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: you looking at other specific things, because they haven't seen 309 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: too much of a rally at other points in the 310 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: last couple of months, be it you know, the semiconductors 311 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: or China or anywhere else. Yeah, we tend to stay 312 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: with big tech. That's really an uncertainty, is like we 313 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: have right now and certainly is slow downcoming. Big tech 314 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: tends to outperform because they still have growth regardless, and 315 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: so we tend to stick with a bigger tech a 316 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: bit more predictability. You really don't want to be out 317 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: there on the risks. Okay, yale right now, So we 318 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: only have about a minute or so. But what would 319 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: be your sort of most interesting contrarian call then? Well, 320 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: contraining on callee, Well, I think that really the banks 321 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: are contrarian. I think the flosh banks right now are 322 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: a contrarian call because I do think that they are 323 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: going to survive. People still have to keep their money 324 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: in the bank. They're just gonna there's going to be 325 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: an outflow from regional bank to big banks. And big 326 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: banks got hurt just along with regional banks. So you know, 327 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: the asset managers are really good. As an asset manager, 328 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: we're getting a lot more dollars in because they're leaving 329 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: the regional banks the reef and they're coming to the 330 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: asset managers and the big banks. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, 331 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: your morning brief on the stories making news from Hong 332 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. Look for us on 333 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: your podcast feed every day, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere 334 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: else you get your podcast. 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