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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The Buck Sexton Show,

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Speaker 2: and with me first time on the program, Jackson Hinkel.

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Speaker 2: He is an independent political analyst. He is He is

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Speaker 2: described as here on Twitter the most censored man on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to ask you a bit about that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk Ukraine, twenty twenty four, California, California versus Florida,

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Speaker 2: all kinds of good things. Jackson. Welcome, good to have

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Speaker 2: you on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's start if if I'm a Ukraine, I want

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Speaker 2: to get to you, Crane. Did did you you were

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Speaker 2: on Tucker's show, Tucker Show, I bring it up, brings it,

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Speaker 2: brings a tear to my eye. But anyway, you were

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Speaker 2: on Tucker Show? Did you? Were you talking Ukraine that time?

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Speaker 2: Or was it a different topic? I can't remember now. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Tucker did a model about Joe Biden's infamous red background

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Speaker 3: speech where he looked like Satan himself in the pits

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Speaker 3: of Hell, and then he did a monologue comparing, you know,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's policies, his authoritarian policies, to Zelenski's authoritarian policies

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Speaker 3: in Ukraine. And it was really cool. And I went

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Speaker 3: on to talk about and compare those two things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, well that makes so it was I knew

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Speaker 2: there was a Ukraine tie in, but it was a

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Speaker 2: few months back. So here's my thing. Let me put

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Speaker 2: this premise out to you. Tell me what you think

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Speaker 2: about this. So I remember being in a rock and

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Speaker 2: being in Afghanistan with the CIA years ago, and certainly

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Speaker 2: in the context of Afghanistan, knowing I was there twenty ten,

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Speaker 2: knowing that there's no chance this is going to work

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Speaker 2: like this plan that you know, we're sending more and

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Speaker 2: more people and this is never act. This thing of

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Speaker 2: we're going to have a self sustaining and democratic Afghanistan,

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Speaker 2: that that was just never gonna, never actually going to happen.

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Speaker 2: But nobody was willing to say that. First of all,

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Speaker 2: step one that and then okay, so what are we

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Speaker 2: doing here in Ukraine? I keep saying to everybody, all right,

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Speaker 2: so Republicans don't like that we're spending so much money,

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Speaker 2: I should say not Republicans some Republicans don't like that

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Speaker 2: we're spending so much money and that we're as involved

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Speaker 2: as we are, that we're sending F sixteen's, that we're

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Speaker 2: sending Abrams tanks, that Russia has thousands of nukes. But

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Speaker 2: I never hear anybody say what should we do? Like

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Speaker 2: what is the action item? Like in a Jackson Hinkle

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Speaker 2: foreign policy presidency, what is Ukraine policy?

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Speaker 3: You bring up a good point, really good point, just

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Speaker 3: in the same way when it comes to Afghanistan, or

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Speaker 3: Iraq or Syria for that matter, Everyone in the State

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Speaker 3: Department to everyone in well most people within the Pentagon

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Speaker 3: are talking about how we're not going to stop with

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Speaker 3: this Ukraine business until Ukraine is victorious. But they'll never

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Speaker 3: ever identify what victory means for Ukraine. Some people have

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Speaker 3: come out and said, like I saw DeSantis came out

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Speaker 3: give all of the Dombas and all of Crimea back

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Speaker 3: to Ukraine immediately. The fact of the matter is, as

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Speaker 3: it's just not possible. You know, whatever we try to

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Speaker 3: most of the Dombas, and they, i mean Primea voted

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Speaker 3: by a margin of ninety seven percent in twenty fourteen

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Speaker 3: Deep State want, you know, their deepest wants and wishes

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Speaker 3: will never be granted. The only thing that they might

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Speaker 3: get close to is, you know, world War three and

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Speaker 3: Ideally you could have prevented this by the Obama administration

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Speaker 3: not launching a coup on the sovereign, democratically elected government

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Speaker 3: of Ukraine in twenty fourteen, or you know, encouraging this

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Speaker 2: So I always want to ask those So even like,

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Speaker 2: you guys have a year to figure this out. You

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Speaker 2: have six months to figure this out, three months, whatever

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Speaker 2: it may be, and after that we start cycling down

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Speaker 2: the funding. And if not, then I always say to people,

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Speaker 2: So just you know, Jackson, when the war broke out

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Speaker 2: in Kiev, and then it was, oh, the Russians are

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Speaker 2: going to I said, everyone's underestimating the Russian war machine,

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Speaker 2: Russia's commitment to land warfare, grinding it down over time,

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Speaker 2: taking massive casualties if they have to on like this.

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Speaker 2: Just this notion of like the brave Ukrainian resistance is

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Speaker 2: going to now roll the Russians, it's just not going

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Speaker 2: unless we get a peace settlement, trillions of US dollars, right,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's not a crazy people then, But now we're

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Speaker 2: at about, I don't know, on the books, one hundred

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Speaker 2: on a war that most Americans say why exactly is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 3: And it was Joseph Brell, who's one of the top

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Speaker 3: know how to end the war in Ukraine. The quickest,

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Speaker 3: most simple way to in the war in Ukraine is

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Speaker 3: if the West stops supplying Ukraine with money, in aid

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Speaker 3: saying that very thing. As for you know how much

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Speaker 3: money we could be in the hole on this venture,

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Speaker 3: which is a suicide mission by the way, Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: could be trillions at the end of the day. And

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Speaker 3: I don't think we'll ever really know how much money

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Speaker 3: has been pumped into Ukraine since I mean since at

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Speaker 3: least twenty fourteen. You look back at US medaling in Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: especially within the nationalist elements of Ukraine, you can go

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Speaker 3: Of course, things he did up dramatically two thousand and four,

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Speaker 3: and then again in twenty fourteen. But you know, the

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Speaker 3: real point that I think should be drawn here is

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Speaker 3: exactly what you said. Russia is a war machine. You know,

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Speaker 3: we can look back in history. It's not really a

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Speaker 3: good idea to fight to Russia, especially you know, on

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Speaker 1: They did it.

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Speaker 3: And Russia is dead serious about the ambitions and the

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Speaker 3: goals that they put forward here, which are demilitarization of

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Speaker 3: but most specifically in Ukraine, as an existential fight. And

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Speaker 3: that in World War Two. They were twenty seven million people,

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Speaker 3: And this is no different. I mean, they see it

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Speaker 2: So now I want to switch gears with you, Jackson

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Speaker 2: most censored ban on YouTube. We got to check that

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Speaker 2: out at a second. I see that tagline in your Twitter.

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Speaker 2: And then he also has a three year forecast. You've

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Speaker 2: So go check out Disruption twenty twenty three dot com

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Speaker 2: see what my dad has to say I sit down

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Speaker 2: with them, you'll see it's me. My dad had disruption

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Speaker 2: a lot of friends who are censored for a whole rate.

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Speaker 2: I've been censored on Twitter, on YouTube, on Facebook, you know,

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Speaker 2: strikes for this, suspension for that. What do you get

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Speaker 3: Well, just what we were talking about a moment ago,

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Speaker 3: But as for you know, the Putent puppet claim, I

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Speaker 2: And that I mean, I'd want to check on that.

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Speaker 3: Russia is actually you know, taking over new territory, more

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Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of soldiers are fine, I'll say

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Speaker 2: who leaked some of the information they had access to

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Speaker 2: a few months back a couple months ago. Two hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand Russian casualties and forty thousand killed is what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: And then Ukraine has about one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 2: thousand casualties with about seventeen thousand killed. So a lot

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Speaker 2: of soldiers are dying in these fights, but I thought

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Speaker 2: the civilian number of casualties was going to be much

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Speaker 2: That's another number that I appreciate you bringing up here

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Speaker 2: because I would have assumed that it would have been

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Speaker 2: much much higher than that. So that just goes to,

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Speaker 2: you know, the way that these things are being talked about.

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Speaker 2: Let me that that was really interesting, Jackson. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for taking us there. I want to come back in

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Speaker 2: your twenty twenty four take. First off, are you are

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Speaker 2: you decided already? Are you waiting to see in this primary?

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Speaker 2: And I'll ask you more questions based on how you

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Speaker 2: answer that.

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Speaker 1: Haven't decided yet, But as of right now, I'm riding

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Speaker 1: with Trump. That's what I'm going for right now.

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Speaker 2: You think he can win.

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Speaker 1: I think he could win if he was in prison

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Speaker 1: against Biden.

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Speaker 2: Against Biden is what I mean. Forget about the primary

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Speaker 2: for a second. There. You think he can be Biden?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: It's it's interesting you said, do you think you can

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Speaker 2: win from prison? I do believe, And I've spoken to

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Speaker 2: some very smart legal minds like world class you know,

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Speaker 2: former attorneys general. I mean, people who really know the

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Speaker 2: law really well, and and they think Trump's in real

494
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Speaker 2: legal jeopardy. That's not to say he should be, but

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Speaker 2: that's to say that the way the system is setting

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Speaker 2: him up here. I mean, I think they're going to

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Speaker 2: hit him with a criminal case in Georgia, obstruction charge

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Speaker 2: for the marl Lago documents, and maybe even insitementto insurrection

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Speaker 2: for January six. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: It's very risky when you start, as you know, playing

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Speaker 3: with the judicial system like that in our public prosecution.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just find it insane that you have

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Speaker 3: former presidents that we're killing innocent people and you many

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Speaker 3: in Iraq each and every day. Or you have former

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Speaker 3: presidents who are flying with Jeffrey Epstein to his private

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Speaker 3: island thirty plus times and they're completely fine. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're untouchable, and they're still celebrated by the mass media.

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Speaker 3: And then, of course Donald Trump is the one who

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Speaker 3: might end up in prison before this upcoming election. But again,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been done before. We've had candidates run

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Speaker 3: for president from prison before. They didn't make it too far.

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Speaker 3: But I think if anything, it would just harden Trump's

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Speaker 3: base and maybe turn off some perspective independent voters. But

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Speaker 3: for me, it wouldn't wouldn't bother me, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: even a registered Republican I'm an independent, so I would

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Speaker 3: I would view it as the deep state coming after

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Speaker 3: a truth teller, which is something so many average Americans

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Speaker 3: have suffered from in the hands of these big tech

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Speaker 3: companies for the past several years now.

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Speaker 2: So you're a registered independent. That's interesting to me because

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Speaker 2: I always think the challenge for Trump is it's not

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Speaker 2: with the base, it's not with the g it's not

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Speaker 2: with the Republican Party overall. I mean, if he's the nominee,

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Speaker 2: people on the right are going to come out for

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Speaker 2: Trump big time. I'm gonna come out for Trump. I mean,

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Speaker 2: everyone's coming out for Trump, who's a conservative when he's

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Speaker 2: facing Biden, for sure. But independence and when you start

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Speaker 2: to narrow it down to the key states Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada,

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Speaker 2: maybe Virginia. Probably not when you narrow it down to

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Speaker 2: these key states, though independence matter a whole lot, much

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Speaker 2: celebrated and talked about swing voters. How do you think

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump wins enough of them in those places to

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Speaker 2: beat Biden?

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Speaker 3: You know, when it when it comes to beating Biden,

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Speaker 3: he did put forward a plan.

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Speaker 1: Like it or not think of it?

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Speaker 3: What you will this build back better plan for actually

539
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Speaker 3: trying to revitalize America? And I think everyone agrees it's

540
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Speaker 3: been an abysmal failure. The question is does Trump have

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Speaker 3: something that can counter that, or does DeSantis potentially have

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Speaker 3: something that could counter that. As of right now, I

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Speaker 3: mean DeSantis just began his candidacy. He doesn't even have

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Speaker 3: a fully fledged website. But everything I see from him

545
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Speaker 3: is just opposition to the woke culture and there's no

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Speaker 3: real vision for America with Trump. Surprisingly to at least

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Speaker 3: to my surprise, and his he's been putting those little

548
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Speaker 3: policy videos out where he has his plans for making

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Speaker 3: America great again, and I think it's just been incredible

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Speaker 3: to see his plans for reindustrializing America. Obviously, he achieved

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Speaker 3: the USMCA trade deal, which was a bit better than

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Speaker 3: NATA for America, but I mean he's talking about really

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Speaker 3: revolutionary things like that. I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 3: his plan for building freedom cities, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: viable of an idea that is, but I mean he's

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Speaker 3: talking about choosing like the best city planners architects in

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Speaker 3: the nation, having them submit various proposals to create new

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Speaker 3: freedom cities and having them serve as kind of hubs,

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Speaker 3: as test hubs for young Americans to move in to

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Speaker 3: areas that will be populated with good paying jobs, low

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Speaker 3: low cost homes, and beginning to rebuild America. I haven't

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Speaker 3: heard any ideas like that from any presidential candidate in

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Speaker 3: a long time, and I think it's something we really need.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you talk about how do you

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Speaker 3: reach those independent voters that are concerned about the state

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Speaker 3: of our economy and the states of the fact that

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Speaker 3: the Biden administration has pretty much single handedly collapsed the

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Speaker 3: dollar as a global reserve currency. With the sanctioned warfare

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Speaker 3: ourselves on the global stage. I think they want someone

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Speaker 3: like Trump who isn't a tody of Russia or China,

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Speaker 3: but knows how to make a deal and actually is

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Speaker 2: So I want to ask you about California and your

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Speaker 2: upcoming move to Florida, where I'm also I'm a former

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Speaker 2: New Yorker who moved to Florida, So we got a

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Speaker 2: All right, Jackson, you're moving? Wait? Are you? Are you

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Speaker 2: an original? You've kind of some California vibes? Are you

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Speaker 2: an original Californian?

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Speaker 1: Orange County?

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Speaker 2: Orange County? Oh, that's God's country, man, that's I grew

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Speaker 2: up as a New Yorker watching you know, these shows

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Speaker 2: and I was like, man, that would be really nice.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I know, you've got a little stronghold

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Speaker 2: of sanity there. It's a very beautiful place. What made

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Speaker 2: you finally decide you're gonna leave arguably the nicest part

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Speaker 2: of California to move to Florida?

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Speaker 3: Well, first I moved to Los Angeles. I lived here

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Speaker 3: for the past two years, and Orange County was just

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Speaker 3: a bit slow for me. I'm twenty three and I

620
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Speaker 3: was looking for a bit more life in a city.

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Speaker 3: I like big cities. And I moved there and I'm

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Speaker 3: still here. I'm in downtown LA And I'm not even

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Speaker 3: being hyperbolic right now. I mean, if you've been to

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Speaker 3: La you know everyone says it is the worst place

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Speaker 3: in our country.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: Every day when I'm walking, I think we're sending two

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Speaker 3: hundred billion dollars to Ukraine. But I just passed by

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Speaker 3: six homeless people and you know, four piles of two

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Speaker 1: Into my coffee. It's crazy. Miami.

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Speaker 3: I went for the first time there this winter and

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Speaker 3: I was just I was just so in love. I

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Speaker 3: took my girlfriend there and we just loved it. And

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Speaker 3: ever since we went there, we're just like, we got

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Speaker 3: to move to Miami. And you talk about the politics,

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Speaker 3: the culture, the people, the taxes, all that stuff. It

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Speaker 3: makes it a very inviting, the weather, very inviting place

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Speaker 2: Do you get any sense from Los Angelinos that they

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Speaker 2: are they are they in denial about what's happening to

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Speaker 2: their city still, or do they recognize that the state

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Speaker 2: of California has lost hundreds of thousands of people and

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Speaker 2: this is going to have a lot of downstream impacts,

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Speaker 2: including in the next census.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people who understand what's happening.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have average people that understand that's what's happening.

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Speaker 3: But I think you have a lot of like activists

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Speaker 3: that live here that just think it's the bashan for

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Speaker 3: progressivism or something to that effect.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the stats don't lie.

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Speaker 3: Everyone understands that businesses and people are leaving California, in

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Speaker 3: particular Los Angeles, and it's just very sad because it

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Speaker 3: used to be a beautiful place to live.

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Speaker 1: I mean everyone wanted to live here.

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Speaker 3: Now I wake up and I think, why on earth

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Speaker 3: would I wake up? You know, if you're making enough

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Speaker 3: money and you're not tied to a job, why on

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Speaker 3: earth would I live here when I don't have to?

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Speaker 1: Why would I choose to live here? So it's very sad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened to me in New York. Man. Well,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the Florida Revolution. I'll tell Governor Ron to

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Speaker 2: say just that you send your thanks to being. I

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Speaker 2: know you like Trump, but the governor here is doing

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Speaker 2: a great job as the governor. Yes, and we'll see

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Speaker 2: you in Miami. My friend Jackson Hankle follow him on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure we'll be seeing more of you man,

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on