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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to Move the Sticks presented by

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Speaker 1: the Ford f series, DJ, Bucky Here and Buck. We

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Speaker 1: got a huge episode coming up today. We got a

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Speaker 1: lot of NFL to get to, a couple of Monday

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Speaker 1: night games to recap um, and then some other big

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Speaker 1: gonna preview this upcoming slate of games, which is is

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Speaker 1: a pretty good slate, and we're gonna have a special

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Speaker 1: guest join us today. Yeah, it should be an exciting episode.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really excited because coming off to heels with

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Speaker 1: that Sunday episode, Uh, it feels good to just always

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Speaker 1: be engaged in the football conversation. We talked about the

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Speaker 1: NFL on Sunday night, and we can talk about college

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good time. And I mentioned this

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Speaker 1: very special guest. How about somebody that's won a national

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Speaker 1: championship at the collegiate level coach. There's only a couple

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Speaker 1: of them now that are still coaching college football. So

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Speaker 1: I'll tease it. I'm not gonna tell you who it is,

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Speaker 1: but we have a we have a big time college

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Speaker 1: coach gonna join us a talk about some of his

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Speaker 1: top players. All right, but let's get into these two

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Speaker 1: Monday night games last night and how much you've got

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Speaker 1: a chance to see these things. But we had the

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Speaker 1: the Dalvin Cook Show, actually maybe the Sam Bradford Show

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Speaker 1: with what Minnesota did against the Saints. And then we

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Speaker 1: What was your your takeaway? Their biggest takeaway? Um, Sam

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Speaker 1: believe this team is a surprise sleeper team to keep

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Speaker 1: you what when I watched the cut up a couple

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook carries. Offensive line did a nice job. But

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Speaker 1: I had. I had our our research department, led by

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Speaker 1: talk about quarterbacks, pass rushers, corners, tackles. I still tak tackles.

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Speaker 1: Those are the four market positions when we talk about

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. I think it'd be interesting to look at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year if that changes. I still

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Speaker 1: believe that those core positions now because it's such a

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Speaker 1: passing game. It's your inside pass rusher, you're outside pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: your cornerback, and then on offense, it is now becoming

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Speaker 1: a quarterback wide receiver league. Whether you invest in the

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Speaker 1: first round, you need to make sure that you have

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Speaker 1: a dominant guy in the passing game on the outside.

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Speaker 1: They can do something to help your quarterback. And no question, Look,

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Speaker 1: if you've got a stud running back or stead receiver,

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Speaker 1: they they're worth a first round pick. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a home run. Absolutely not saying you shouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: But and again, some of these guys that we have

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Speaker 1: in this reception lest we've got a couple running backs,

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Speaker 1: get a tight end in there. So it's not just

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, but just interesting, I mean, just how the

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Speaker 1: ball is. Playmakers. You have to have playmakers. You have

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Speaker 1: to have enough playmakers. I think what Buffalo was able

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Speaker 1: to pull off with Shandy McCoy. Shandy McCoy and I

448
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Speaker 1: know it's the Jets and we can talk about the

449
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Speaker 1: Jets at nausea, But Shandy McCoy was the most important

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Speaker 1: player there. He's probably their m VP of their offense,

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Speaker 1: and they do a lot of different things to put

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Speaker 1: him in a position to make splash plays. And that's

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Speaker 1: what you have to do. All right. Let's the last

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Speaker 1: thing here before we jump into some college It's it's

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Speaker 1: time for our Old Line of the Week, presented by

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Speaker 1: something that Shawn's been working on. And actually just texted

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Speaker 1: him and to find out who he did this week

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Speaker 1: or which which offensive line he chose, and we actually

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Speaker 1: came up with the exact same one. So we're on

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Speaker 1: the same page here. What offensive line was the most

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Speaker 1: impressive week? Week one? I think without question it's Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Yeah, I think I think it's Kanda City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs because they were able to really dominate the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and when you put together the offense that

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Speaker 1: they basically put together, which is really a modernized version

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Speaker 1: of the spread that has been tailored to NFL standards.

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line has to be able to move and

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Speaker 1: stay on people get to the second level to allow

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Speaker 1: Tree Hill and some of the other guys Kareem Hunt

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Speaker 1: to really make plays at the second level. Their offensive

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Speaker 1: line really control the game, kept Alex Smith clean and

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Speaker 1: comfortable in the pocket, and they were able to really

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Speaker 1: establish the run. That is what you're looking from for

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Speaker 1: from an offensive line. That's what the Cane the chiefs

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Speaker 1: Oh line was able to do. And they've got their

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Speaker 1: hands full this week because they're gonna go up against

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Speaker 1: what we believe is one of the best defensive front Eagles.

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Speaker 1: So we're actually gonna have one of our preview videos

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Speaker 1: this week which is gonna highlight the matchup here between

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Speaker 1: this running attack and and everything that you get from

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Speaker 1: Cream Hunt and how that's gonna stack up against an

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Speaker 1: Eagles defensive line. We know what they can do, but

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Speaker 1: the Eagles linebackers, when we look at them and break

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Speaker 1: them down, Bucky, they can all run and they can

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Speaker 1: all cover. So some of the success that they had

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Speaker 1: to the backs out of the backfield in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more difficult against this group of

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Speaker 1: linebackers in Philly. Yeah, I mean absolutely. I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tougher. I like the Eagles. I like this matchup.

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Speaker 1: This is a very compelling matchup because what I want

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Speaker 1: to see from the Eagles I want to see how

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz plays against the front seven from the kN

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Speaker 1: cit Chiefs. How does he handle the pressure and can

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Speaker 1: that upgraded? Why receiver corps can they get open against

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Speaker 1: Marcus Peters and company. One of the players were breaking

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Speaker 1: down too in our preview view. D S was kind

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Speaker 1: of the seiler. Uh last week on Thursday against the

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Speaker 1: Pats and they went student body left and getting cream

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Speaker 1: hunt with all those big bodies from that offensive line

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Speaker 1: on the edge, that's gonna be nasty to see. And

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Speaker 1: see how Philadelphia attacks that now, it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. Eric Fisher had a pancake block on that one.

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Speaker 1: We'll highlight that in the video. Kelsey had a sweet

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Speaker 1: sweet block in there too. Good Night shop, um the uh,

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Speaker 1: the college stuff. Bucky, You're gonna think I'm stalling because

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Speaker 1: I keep saying one more thing. My picks were so bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay on the NFL for one more one

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Speaker 1: more thing here. Um, I had our research do one

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Speaker 1: other thing. This is a fun project. I want to

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Speaker 1: kind of keep track of throout the year. I won't

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Speaker 1: I won't mention every week on the pod, but just

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Speaker 1: something to sprinkling every now and then. Terrell Davis are

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Speaker 1: are good. Buddy goes into the Hall of Fame and

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Speaker 1: what's the what's the video we always show with t

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Speaker 1: d You me makes a big time tackle on a

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Speaker 1: kickoff into prese and in his rookie year, in his

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Speaker 1: rookie year was a draft pick, lower draft pick. A

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Speaker 1: lot of these guys. I remember James Harrison, I've talked

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Speaker 1: about it plenty of times, was a dominant special teams

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Speaker 1: player before he evolved into being a dominant defensive player.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times success early on on special teams.

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Speaker 1: We see these guys end up being stars later on

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Speaker 1: in their careers. So had the research staff who what

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Speaker 1: rookie had the most tackles on special teams Week one?

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Speaker 1: Your winner is Sampson ebou Camp from the Rams from

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Speaker 1: from Eastern Washington. Teammates there with with Cooper Cup in

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Speaker 1: college now in the pros had two special teams tackles

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Speaker 1: and Trey Edmonds, a tight end backup tight end undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agent for the Saints, also had two tackles. I

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Speaker 1: just want to give those guys a little love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give them a little love because, for one, the rookies,

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have never played teams before,

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Speaker 1: so they're trying to figure it out. Because they were

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Speaker 1: starters at their respective schools, they were star players. There

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Speaker 1: were guys that didn't necessarily have to be contributors on

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Speaker 1: the kicking game, and they have to learn how to

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Speaker 1: do it on the fly. So you will see a

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Speaker 1: bunch of rookie mistakes. You'll see some special teams gaffs

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Speaker 1: early is because of the inexperience that you see. But

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Speaker 1: when you talk about special teams being a ticket or

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Speaker 1: gay way to start them, it's absolutely a gay way

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Speaker 1: because it buys you time. Because if you're a good

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Speaker 1: special teams player, it ensures that you're always able to

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Speaker 1: get a jersey on Sundays, and the more opportunities that

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Speaker 1: you get your one maybe two plays away from being

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Speaker 1: on the field, it gives you an opportunity to kind

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Speaker 1: of keep the dream alive. And then when you get

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Speaker 1: on the field, you have to make those plays, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm a big believer that special team standouts can

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Speaker 1: eventually become prominent bigtown players. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 1: this quick buck because this is ugly for me, it

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Speaker 1: was good for you, and I should, I should give

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Speaker 1: you your love here. I got a tip the tip

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Speaker 1: of the cap. Uh. You were I believe, in last

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Speaker 1: place last week in our college picks, and you've turned

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Speaker 1: it around in a mighty way, and you did it

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Speaker 1: by going against your alma modern, which I still don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you sleep at night. But you

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Speaker 1: had an eight and three week on your picks last week.

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Speaker 1: Sully and Kent seven and four, very respectable, and I

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Speaker 1: made a very short journey from first place to last

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Speaker 1: place with a dreadful five and six week. Uh. Tip

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Speaker 1: of the cap. Nice, I appreciate that. I think. I

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Speaker 1: think the big game is I was the lone wolf

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Speaker 1: on the Oklahoma Ohio state game Baker Mayfield planet his

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Speaker 1: flag in the middle of the oh which I don't

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Speaker 1: know why he necessarily had to apologize for that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who cares? Who cares? I was asked about it, so

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Speaker 1: I wrote a little something about you know how will

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Speaker 1: NFL scouts perceive it, and and Buck we we both

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Speaker 1: know there's some old curmudgeony scouts that will have an

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Speaker 1: issue with it. But nine times out of ten, anybody

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Speaker 1: in the draft room is gonna say, who cares. He's

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Speaker 1: passionate and enthusiastic. Watch Tom Brady come out of the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: Watch Philip Rivers and his enthusiasm. You see a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think the big thing is they're talking about Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield's performance. Uh, he did a really good job of

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Speaker 1: extending plays by time, giving his guys opportunity. I think

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Speaker 1: the bigger stat that came out maybe two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy yards after cats get the ball out of your

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Speaker 1: hands and let him go, allowed those playmakers to work

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Speaker 1: like that is a big staff where he got it,

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Speaker 1: you know. And that's a game Westbrook, so you know

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Speaker 1: they have some weapons. No, but a good job. But

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Speaker 1: that's also a quarterback, quarterback identifying how to play the

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Speaker 1: position as a pass first point guard. I got dudes

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Speaker 1: on the outside. Let those dudes do the work for me.

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Speaker 1: I can take a three yard pass and allow it

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Speaker 1: to go. That's what the great ones to Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, they allowed their other players to

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Speaker 1: make it work. On the flip side. J T. Barrett, No, No,

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Speaker 1: if if you swap those that those two quarterbacks with

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Speaker 1: those teams, stay pulled that off. Um well, I mean

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Speaker 1: I would go with whatever team Baker mayfields quarterbacking would

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Speaker 1: have won that game. Yeah, I think so, I think.

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Speaker 1: I think the big thing with J. T. Barrett, I

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Speaker 1: know there's they've been screams and calls for someone to

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Speaker 1: replace them. I don't know who they have behind him.

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Speaker 1: But also, when he was at his best, it was

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Speaker 1: never as a passer. It was his ability to run

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Speaker 1: his own read I would say that they've gone away

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Speaker 1: from that a little bit. He needs to run it

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Speaker 1: like fifteen to twenty times. I mean, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to play and you need to play him, uh to

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Speaker 1: his strength, he needs to run the ball more. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if if I know, actually I know

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Speaker 1: the rules. I know we're not allowed to do this,

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Speaker 1: but I want to play this so bad. I could play.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting trouble, won't I? Yeah, what are you trying

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Speaker 1: to play? When I watched J T. Barrett? You know

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Speaker 1: the song that goes in my head Buck, It's from

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Speaker 1: Disney's Frozen. I want to build a snowman. It's not

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Speaker 1: want to build a snowman. But I appreciate that. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that jam solid. I'm gonna go let it go

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Speaker 1: because I'm watching him just going let it go, throw it,

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Speaker 1: let it go. What are you doing? Throw the ball?

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Speaker 1: He wants to see it like I think, let it fly. Man.

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Speaker 1: That's the difference between let it go, let it go.

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Speaker 1: Can't hold the ball anymore, let it go? When I

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Speaker 1: welcome not know we were singing Frozen on the pod. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. No, I mean, I think the big thing

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Speaker 1: to separates good quarterbacks from great quarterbacks. Great quarterbacks understand

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Speaker 1: how there were timing and anticipation. He doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: anticipation that you want from upper echelon quarterback. He has

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Speaker 1: to see that his guys are wide open for letting

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Speaker 1: it go. He doesn't throw those guys into open windows.

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Speaker 1: Where is why it's tougher when you're playing against elite

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Speaker 1: defenses for him to string together nowhere. The pressure never

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Speaker 1: bothered me anyway. I can do the whole song. Got kids, man,

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Speaker 1: don't act like you haven't seen that movie, Bucker. I

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Speaker 1: have seen it, but I have not remembered any of

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Speaker 1: the songs. From now on. There's your challenge, Sully, he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna I know, Bucky, he's not. This is your challenge.

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Speaker 1: Bring it this week a college football game. I need

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Speaker 1: you to take in something from the college football Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and I need you to come up with the Disney

641
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: song that this goes with you is to sign that

642
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: you've ever given thank you. I'm not even just gonna

643
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: limit it to animation. If you want to go high

644
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 1: school musical, Bye Gala, you go high school musical. I'm thinking,

645
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: get your head in the game. We can go anywhere

646
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: on this thing. I'm thinking something is gonna come out

647
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: of that Tennessee forda game that's gonna make me some

648
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: sort of something. Now we're talking all right, So that's

649
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: your challenge, Buck, Well done, Well done on the college

650
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: We got some huge games coming up this week, are

651
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Speaker 1: we We're going to preview those on Thursdays. Right, We'll

652
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: preview those on Thursday on our video show. So I

653
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: don't have to make my crappy picks yet, not yet.

654
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: That that's Thursday, I'll tell you have time to think

655
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: what we do do we have a is our special

656
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: guest here ready to rock? Let's get it? Oh yeah,

657
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: I mentioned we had a championship winning college football coach

658
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: that was going to join us on the pod today.

659
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: We're lucky to have head coach jimbo Fisher from Florida

660
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: State joining us here. We're gonna have some coaches on

661
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: to talk about some of the top players in college

662
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: football throughout the fall. Coach, you got a good one there.

663
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: And Derwin James. Uh, we've become big fans here watching

664
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: his tape and getting to see him early on in

665
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: his career there. How how early in the recruiting process

666
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: did you know you had something special with Derwin? I

667
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: thought pretty early we really did have something because you

668
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: just his naturally thinks to play, you know, he said

669
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: a hungry guy, was very humble when he never got

670
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: caught up in the recruiting party. He just kept getting

671
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: better and better, and you could just see it on

672
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: films with a guy like Derwin James. I mean, how

673
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: much of a challenge is it for you because of

674
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: his versatility just finding out exactly how you wanted to

675
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: deploy him on your football team when he got on

676
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: camp us. We want to just say what he did

677
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: in one position, let him get that down and then

678
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: started you know, working away. And what we didn't know

679
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: at the time, which is amazing about him, was his

680
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: intelligence level and ability to learn and best information, you know, coach,

681
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: and thinking about that safety position and how it's involved

682
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: in wonder more important positions on defense. His ability to

683
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: come down and bliss off the airs, to play in

684
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: the deep middle, to play tight ends. How rare is

685
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: it defined someone that can do those things. It's extremely rare.

686
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, because the guys are athletic enough, aren't big enough.

687
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: And the guys that are big enough for an athletic

688
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: and then the ones that have everything you're talking about

689
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: intelligence level, that's you know, one of the greatest I've

690
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: ever been around. So when when you put those packages

691
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: together to do all those things are very hard to find.

692
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: How much does he love practice, coach? If there's a

693
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: ball on the field, he loves to play. I don't

694
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: care where it is, what it is, if he's in

695
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: pads or whatever he's doing. He loves flat play, you know, coach.

696
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: He was a big time player on the offense side

697
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: of the ball. And I've seen him, you know, kind

698
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: of flirt with being a kick returning want some of

699
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: those things. Have you ever been tempted to really utilize

700
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: him extensively on the offense side of the ball. Well,

701
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: we thought about it, but then you know last year

702
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: he got hurt and then gett him back this year.

703
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to put that pressure on him, but

704
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: there have been some things that we have and we

705
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: he worked on in the summer for situations that we

706
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: wanted to do it. Coach, how about from a leadership standpoint,

707
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: where is he yet in that development? Really high? And

708
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: this is where a crazy thing comes into play. Last

709
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: year being hurt, when he got to stand back and

710
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: see things to a coach's eye, I think it's enhanced

711
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: him as a player ten times. You know, he is

712
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: tenfold for being a leader. You know, it's really let

713
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: him see how all the little things matter and how

714
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: you know that coaches don't just pick and and he

715
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: really he reiterates that to his players so much, you know,

716
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: and and looking at his game because he's so dynamic,

717
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: he's been terrific. Um, what is the one thing that

718
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: you would say that he could work on to really

719
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: take his game to the next level? You know, maybe

720
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: just pure man to man and cover skills. But because

721
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: he does so much, but then he locks in and

722
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: doesn't he does I thought that, but then going camp,

723
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: I think I want him to do. But he's gotten

724
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: so much better. Dad. He tackles well, and this he

725
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: plays the ball in the deep part of the field

726
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: so well, he blisses and I mean, I just keep

727
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: enhancing his knowledge of the game and understanding. I think

728
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: he don't rely on your athleticism, relying your mind to

729
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: make yourself even that much quicker, because I think it's

730
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: which he's learning to do. And then you're having a

731
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna be almost impossible to block. Coach, What's

732
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: what's the secret sauce down there at Florida State in

733
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Speaker 1: terms of the number of guys you guys have been

734
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: turning out late. I know you a lot of teams

735
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: go out there and recruit these these highly rated players.

736
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: But in the development process and the way the mentality

737
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: you've been able to instilling these guys, you know, what's

738
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: one of those keys. Maybe we don't realize from the

739
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: outside of why Florida State has been turning out so

740
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: many great NFL players. Well, two things we run a

741
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: process upon office and defense. So the multiplicity of having

742
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: to think and and understanding the game of football, you

743
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: have to understand it. I think too, and I know

744
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: this sounds crazy. We through a very physical practicing team.

745
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: We do good on good doing the week week after,

746
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: and the competition level about the guy across the ball

747
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: from you makes it so much more easier to develop

748
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: because if you come out there not ready practice, somebody

749
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: embarrassing you know, coach and thinking about the competition. You

750
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: guys have so many five star talented guys that are

751
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: pro prospects divores. McFadden is an now standing corner, maybe

752
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: the best corner in the game. What do you see

753
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: when you see him every day and practice? What do

754
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: you like about his game? First of all, he has

755
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: tremendous ball skills in length, he can uh extend those

756
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: arms even when he gets out of position, and hands

757
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: can get and make it. He judges the ball so

758
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: well for a big guy and gets his body and

759
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: position to make plays on the ball once he's learned

760
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: now not to always look for the interception and play

761
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: through the guy in the turn, like he learned after

762
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: the first couple of games last year, he played it great.

763
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: And then the physicality. He's tackling very well now and

764
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: he see people didn't realize he had a shoulder that

765
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: he had fixed in the off season with a laboring

766
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: and now he's back to being physical and tackling. So

767
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: you can play boundary corner and you can lets him,

768
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: you can plain in a trap look, and he's really

769
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: becoming all around coach. Going down there and get a

770
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: chance to watch you guys practice, I gotta see a

771
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of great players. When you look at autent tat

772
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: and what he's doing, you've got a very talent defensive tackle. Buck.

773
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: He talked about McFadden, We've talked about Derwin James. I

774
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: want to be selfish year because when I was down there,

775
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see Matt Thomas, your linebacker.

776
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: But I I turned on the tape against Alabama. I

777
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: see him flying around. He tell us a little bit

778
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: about your town to linebacker there. I mean that is

779
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: the guy can run. You think the last three games

780
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: against Michigan, Florida and Alabama, he's got fifteen or twelve

781
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: fifteen and tin tackles and lettuce and he's really understand

782
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: how to play inside the backer. Now come some time

783
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: before his key his triggers, and you're talking about another

784
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: guy athletically. When Derwin runs and jumps and does all

785
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: the things he does, Matthews reactor beside in a six

786
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: ft four body and two hun or thirty pounds, and

787
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: he can cover in space and play in the box,

788
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: he can play on the edge. I mean, he's got

789
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a chance to be a really special player. Well, Coach,

790
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: it's uh, no season is without adversity. You guys. You

791
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: you're down a quarterback and you've got a couple of

792
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: games that you gotta you gotta miss here before you

793
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: guys get back out on the field. But we just

794
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: want you to know here at the NFL that our

795
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers with everybody down there in Florida that's

796
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: been been battling this this hurricane, and uh we wish

797
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: you guys the best of luck with the rest of

798
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: your season. Thank you guys very much. All Right, Bucky

799
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: was really nice of of Coach Fisher to spend some

800
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: time talking to us, mainly about Derwin James here. That's

801
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. We we've got these features.

802
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: We talked about it previously. We've done one NFL dot Com.

803
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: There's been one on Josh Allen, We've seen one on

804
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. This week it's on Derwin James. So that's

805
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: why we brought coach on here to talk to him

806
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: about Derwin james talent at safety. You can go to

807
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Derwin James. I believe when this

808
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: is posted you'll be able to check out a feature

809
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: another one from Chase Goodbrand. You know, I think the

810
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: big thing about this it really takes you behind the

811
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: scenes of what a scout would do because this would

812
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: be part of our process. Part of our process would

813
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: be to go and to evaluate Derwin Derwin James and

814
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: watch him, watch him on the field in practice, talk

815
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: to a pro liaison. But if you can get a

816
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: couple valuable minutes with a head coach to really give

817
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: you some insight and perspective on how the guy is,

818
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: it really helps you a lot. This was invaluable, It

819
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: would be invaluable to us as we continue to go

820
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: down to process. Everybody, wait, Dermy James, some of the

821
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: other guys, and then for those that are the listening, going, hey,

822
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: you guys, didn't talk about the weather. The postponement of

823
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: the Miami game and all that. Look, that's not that's

824
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: for the college football crowd. We try and keep everything

825
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about college football wives. We like to have

826
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of event towards the draft and focusing

827
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: on players. And coach has got a lot to deal

828
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: with down there, and and again our thoughts and prayers

829
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: with everybody down there in Florida that's been dealing with

830
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: the after effects of this this terrible hurricane. Um, but

831
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: it was nice of him to give us a little

832
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: bit of time and uh and tell us about a

833
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: very talented player that we're gonna be spending a lot

834
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: of time talking about here in the spring. All right, Buck,

835
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna do it for us. Man a

836
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: fun one today. I mean, we got great guest, uh,

837
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher get a chance to talk about one of

838
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: my favorite guys and Dermy James or how can you

839
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: beat that? Now? Good times again, Thanks everybody for for

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844
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,440
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845
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Speaker 1: College football is cranking, and hopefully we can give you

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