1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am like Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hot Koitz. We're coming 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambeau Field a 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: day later than usual West because of the Monday night 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: game and some I guess call it a tight schedule 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: with regard to the studio in which we shoot the 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: show here, so recording this on a Wednesday instead of 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday for our first show of the week. 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: But we're here to talk about a twelve victory by 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers over the Los Angeles Rams. And 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: the bottom line is the Packers are six and eight 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: and they're still alive. They are and that was what 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: you and I talked about all last week. You couldn't 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: look past the Rams. You had to win this football 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: game to make the rest of this thing count. Green 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Bay came out and did that on Monday night. To 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: my eye, you know, I know, as Aaron Rodgers talked about, 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: and as a lot of people mentioned, this is the 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: type of team they needed to beat. Right. If you're 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna actually say you are a playoff team, you had 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: to turn back a banged up and be leaguered l 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: A Rams team. But it was how they played throughout 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: the course of the game. I think that impressed me 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: the most because I thought offensively, they had an identity, 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: they had a game plan for how they wanted to 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: attack l A. They executed it masterfully. Hundred and thirty 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: eight rushing yards Mike, and only one of those carries, 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: uh the longest one was for fourteen yards. I don't 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: even know how many double digit uh you know, yardage 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: plays they had off runs, but they were consistent with 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: it throughout the ballgame. Romeo Dobbs comes back, leads them 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: in receiving, they got five sacks. Defensively, you look at 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: how they were able to dictate the temple of this game. 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Keishaw Nixon did Keishaw Nixon things on returns. The green 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Bay Packers are going to have to play better to 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: beat the Miami Dolphins. But I thought coming off by 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: and coming off the win over Chicago, this was the 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: type of encouraging performance green Bay needed to build up 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: some of that confidence going into South Beach. Yeah, like 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: you said, there were a lot of things to like 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: in this game. Um My, my list is is pretty long. Actually, 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: I start with the way they ran the ball against 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: what has been a pretty good rushing defense even without 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and Donald did not play in this game 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: for the Rams, but when Donald has been out, the 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Rams have still been pretty stout against the run. But 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones ninety yards rushing. A J. Dillon only ended 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: up with thirty six before leaving for a concussion evaluation, 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: which he ended up clearing. Actually, so it sounds like 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: all is good with with Dylan and he'll beyond the 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: practice field this week. But A J. Dillon with two 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns, and as you said, it wasn't it was. 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: It was actually over a hundred and forty rushing yards 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: until the neel downs at the end dropped them back 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: under a hundred and forty. But it wasn't a hundred 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: and forty rushing yards with a fifty five yard you know, 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: explosive one in there. They they they pounded away and 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: and the Rams made it tough at times. There were 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: some tackles for loss in there, some tackles at the 61 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, some minus one and minus two's, but 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: there were times that you saw the holes were there, 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: and Dylan would make the cut into the hole or 64 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones would explode through the hole like he often does. 65 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: And to be able to on a fairly consistent basis 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: get six and seven yard runs against a pretty good 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: run defense, I thought was a was a tremendous sign. 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned the five sacks from the defense most on 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: the season, um and the Packers that only had one 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: game this year with even three sacks during which Rashan 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Gary didn't get at least one of those. So the 72 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: fact that you know to get five sacks and a 73 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: season high without Gary was a good sign because that 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: pass rush needs to needs to move forward. And then 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: what more can we say about the special teams return 76 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: return game dynamo in uh in Keyshawn Nixon. I tell 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: you he had the there was the one called back 78 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: on the penalty that that was a disappointing call to 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people. But he made an impact on 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: kickoff returns. He made an impact on the punt returns. 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: The Packers are winning the field position battle in these 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: games that they're winning because of Nixon and that return unit. 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: I asked uh Aaron Jones after the game about Nixon 84 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: and how that changes the complexity and and sort of 85 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: the composition of an offense when you are starting at 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: midfield or they're abouts and as Jones pointed out, what 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: you don't think about when you're at the fifty yard 88 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: line is first and foremost, you get two first downs, 89 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: you're in field goal range two. You don't know. You know, 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: it's not easy to not turn over the football at 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: this level. Packers have had one of the very best 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: doing it for fifteen years at the quarterback position. But 93 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams that they kind of have 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of their you know, a nod in 95 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: their throat, trying to make sure they play clean football. 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: The reason I say that is a lot of teams 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line to the fifty yard line, 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: you're going through some shark infested waters. They're trying to 99 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: make sure you maintain the possession of ball, let alone 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: get a scoring drive going. Having a returner like Nixon 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: takes away all of that, and it gives you a 102 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: little bit of a spark offensively in that you know 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: you're not starting off at your own thirteen yard line. 104 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: You know you're not having to dig yourself out of anything. 105 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: Uh second, right now in the NFL in kickoff return 106 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: yardage average, Kenny wanga Wu from Minnesota's tops at twenty 107 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: six yards per per return. He Shaw Nixon four. Wanga 108 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Woo has a touchdown return on his schedule yard or 109 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Night. When you look at whatever it is 110 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: now eight returns of more than thirty yards three, I 111 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: think of fifty in an area of the game that 112 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: has been largely eliminated the National Football League because of 113 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: how they've pushed back or pushed up the kickoffs. It's incredible. 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: Keishaw Nixon is added, and as I talked with j 115 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Alexander about after the game, the fact he's doing this 116 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: while playing the nickel corner position. Um, there's no days 117 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: off for him. Right now. I'm blown away, Mike, because 118 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the Packers have had talented returners twenty five point four 119 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: yards per return. If that ended right now, that would 120 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: be the Packers best stat with a guy that's had 121 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: at least twenty returns since Randall Cobb in two thousand twelve. 122 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: It's pretty astonishing what Keisha Nixon has been able to 123 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: do on his twenty returns in a very short amount 124 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, absolutely, very impressive. And you mentioned that 125 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: he's playing nickel corner on defense and my what you 126 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: might have missed piece with some video clips that's on 127 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: the website right now. I actually took a look at 128 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: how he's playing defensively at that nickel corner spot, and 129 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: he's he's a solid, a very solid, steady presence in 130 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: this defense for the Packers in the secondary. You can 131 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: you can check out the video clips. I mean, what 132 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: the the impact that he's making in two phases of 133 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: the game is significant, and I thought this game essentially 134 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: was decided after halftime. It's ten to six at intermission. 135 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: The Packers had deferred on the opening coin toss, so 136 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: they're getting the ball to start the second half. They 137 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: drive down the field and get a touchdown. A couple 138 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: of crucial defensive penalties on the Rams that helped that drive, 139 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: but the Packers get a touchdown. It's so it's seventeen 140 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: to six. Then the defense gets a three and out 141 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: with the help of a holding call that put the 142 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Rams in a long yard situation. And then the field 143 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: position comes into play because Nixon returns the punt to midfield. 144 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: There's also a face mask on the Rams that puts 145 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: the ball on the law, so Angeles thirty five yard 146 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: line and just uh, a handful of snaps later from 147 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: the thirty five the Packers are in the end zone again. 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: So you come out of the second half touchdown three 149 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: and out touchdown, and suddenly it's twenty four to six 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: and the Packers for the most part, we're we're in 151 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: command the rest of the game. UM. Shout out to 152 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Preston Smith for his second sack of the game. That 153 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: was maybe the one moment uh. Later on, it's two 154 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: to twelve and the Rams had crossed midfield on a 155 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: past interference penalty and then Preston Smith kind of snuffed 156 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: out that drive with his second sack of the game. 157 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: But other than that moment um, you know, from twenty 158 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: four to six on, the Packers were in command of 159 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: this thing. And it was it was it was that 160 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: sequence of complimentary football, the offense doing good things, the 161 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: defense getting a three and out, the special teams giving 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: you the field position, the offense taking advantage. That's how 163 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: you take control and win games in the NFL. And 164 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: it's a lot gonna be a lot harder to do 165 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins and a team that's right in 166 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: the thick of the a f C wild Card chase. 167 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: But that's what you have to have, that type of 168 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: stretch in a game where you take command of things. 169 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: And and the Packers need to do that again if 170 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: they're going to continue this winning stream. Well, and I 171 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: thought too. You know they tried to do the double 172 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: double before halftime. You know that all going to goes awry. 173 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: Rogers gets sacked on the attempt at Hail Mary. Things 174 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: are just not going great. You're only up ten to 175 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: six at that point. You are getting the ball, but 176 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of things can happen. We've seen 177 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things happen this season and the and 178 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: the Packers. As I had mentioned last week, the Packers 179 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: hadn't been great with production on that opening drive of 180 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: the second half. They've done it nine times. They had 181 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: had only one touchdown and two field goals in nine 182 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: tries before Monday night. They got their second touchdown, fourth time, 183 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: scoring out of ten tries, getting that first possession um 184 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: taking the opening kickoff of the second half, and uh 185 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: and it worked to their advantage this time. I'm gonna 186 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: throw some stats at you. You're typically the stack, all right, 187 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw stats at you. First drive twelve plays 188 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: fifty two yards, six minutes and fourteen seconds. Second scoring 189 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: drive eleven place seventy four yards, six minutes and fifteen seconds. 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Third scoring drive the one you illustrated out of the 191 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: halftime eleven place sixty eight yards sixty eight I'm not 192 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: even talking about the fact they were able to run 193 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: out the clock on the game last eight before the 194 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: nail down. There was a great stat that pr Maven. 195 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: Tom Fanning, who had never won credit but I'm gonna 196 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: give it to him anyway, came up with the first 197 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: time the Packers have had and back to back games 198 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: in the same season three scoring drives of eleven or 199 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: more plays in the same game this year. Before that, 200 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: it was two thousand and eight. As cool as it is, 201 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: everyone loves seventy five yard touchdowns, there's gonna be defenses 202 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: like l A that are gonna make you go the 203 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: full length of the field. They're not gonna lapse. They 204 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: have speedy guys in the secondary. They're gonna be able 205 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: to catch up. The defensive front goes without saying, they're 206 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: not going to give you the big play. They're gonna 207 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: make you take your time and the Packers made it happen. 208 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: They made it happen with a J. Dillon on the field, 209 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: and when Dylan unfortunately had to get you know, cleared 210 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: for the concussion. They did it with Aaron Jones who 211 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: was banged up, and they did it with Patrick Taylor 212 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: who had just been signed to the fifty three man 213 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: roster hours earlier. Aaron Rodgers makes a great throw to 214 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs on the twenty three yard gained during that series. 215 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: The Packers were just so dang efficient in this game, 216 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: and Mike, that's what you're gonna have to do now, 217 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: going down to Miami, facing a playoff caliber opponent and 218 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: being able to take care of business. It was a 219 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: perfect complimentary performance in terms of everything we've asked for, 220 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: with the Packers defense holding its ground on the opening possession, 221 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: the Packers offense giving them a little bit of wicker 222 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: room early on, and then l A having to play 223 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: from behind from there. Well, the other thing we're seeing 224 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: as this season has unfolded. You had mentioned Romeo Dobbs 225 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: was back from the ankle injury. You look across the board, 226 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, the and and even been 227 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: special teams to a certain extent to which I'll mention 228 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: the draft class, this rookie draft class. Their fingerprints were 229 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: all over this victory. Romeo Dobbs and Christian Watson combined 230 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: for nine catches and a hundred and one yards. Quay 231 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: Walker gets a sack and a forced fumble, the first 232 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: full sack of his career. He had a half sack 233 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: earlier in the season. He gets a He gets a 234 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: sack and a forced fumble, also has another tackle for loss. 235 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Davante Wyatt gets a half a sack, sharing one with 236 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Justin Hollins. Zack Tom at left tackle is filling in 237 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: for David Baktierra. We don't even mention his name. He 238 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: his name doesn't even really get brought up um all 239 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: night long, except for, you know, being part of that 240 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: big pile that pushes a J. Dillon pushes a J. 241 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: Dillon into the end zone in the in the big 242 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: scrum there Kingsley Nigbari at edge rusher, who's getting obviously 243 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: a ton of playing time right now with with Rashawn 244 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Gary being out for the rest of the year. He 245 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: gets a sack, almost almost an interception. Um oh and 246 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: and kuay Walker broke up a couple of passes to 247 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: almost almost had a pick. Trek Carpenter, the seventh round pick, 248 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: is making tackles on special teams. I mean, this draft 249 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: class is all over the place, and the Packers are 250 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna need absolutely everything that this rookie draft class has 251 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: to try to make a run at this thing here 252 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: starting with uh a victory on on Christmas and Miami. 253 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: You get this one, and then you know you're coming 254 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: back home for two games against division rivals that are 255 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: indoor teams, coming to Lambeau in the cold, everything starts 256 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: to feel a little bit more realistic. Packers are gonna 257 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: need everything this rookie draft class has on on Christmas 258 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: Day in Miami, and the way they performed on Monday 259 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: night was a great sign for what they might be 260 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: able to do. The other thing I really liked about 261 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: this game, Now, certainly you want, you know, consistency for 262 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: all four quarters, but it was how guys stepped up 263 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: on almost specific series on plays. You look at Kingsley Nigbari, 264 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the play that he gets the first down sack on, 265 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: he also nearly has an interception on the third down 266 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: on this attempted screen. At the very least he broke 267 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: it up. Davante Wyatt gets the stop on first down 268 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, then combines with Justin Hollins on 269 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: the sack, which you know Baker Mayfield runs right into 270 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: their lap. But that's football. As Preston Smith said afterwards, 271 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it isn't about the plays that you're making. 272 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: It's about making those plays and then seeing what comes 273 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: to you. I mean that was kind of Preston's things. 274 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Preston's had some good rushes this year that he hasn't 275 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: statistically been rewarded for. But then you look at you know, 276 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: his first sex. Someone's helping flush him to him. You know, 277 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: that's what this defense needs to get out of this group, 278 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: and you know, so many of these guys have been 279 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: put in some really tough situations. You know, Kingsley and 280 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Ningbari wasn't even really the next guy up at the 281 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: beginning of the season and now he's the starting outside 282 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: linebacker with Preston Smith. Zack tom As I wrote last week, 283 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: had only played in five games. I think that's the 284 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: thing that people forget about. He has these three spot starts. 285 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: He sat the other eight games before last week. It's 286 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: these guys being ready for the moment. And that's ultimately 287 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: going to take you far in this league, because if 288 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: you can be ready in adverse moments, you're going to 289 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: be ready for the ones that you're prepared for too. 290 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: And um, it's exciting to see. Certainly, you know, you 291 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: look at Kuaywalker hundred tackles on the season. You know, 292 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: Christian Watson has been a completely dynamic and and causing 293 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: defensive past interference penalties and blocking on the Aaron Jones 294 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: touchdown round and catching passes. But it's when you're getting 295 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: contributions from the fifth round picks, from the fourth round 296 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: picks and you're getting those immediate returns. Doesn't get any 297 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: better for that than that for a football team. Yeah, 298 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: this uh, this this draft class showing all kinds of promise. 299 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: I want to get to. Um, what was a crazy 300 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: weekend in the NFL. After a little bit of sponsor 301 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: business here West Serious x M NFL Radio delivers hard 302 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: hitting analysis and to the minute NFL news that true 303 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: football fanatics and seven three and at cousin subs. We 304 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: have something for everyone, like our Wisconsin Cheese cards, mac 305 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired with 306 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs 307 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: fifty years of better. Alright, West, I don't know where 308 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: you want to start with regard to everything that happened 309 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL prior to the Packers and Rams on 310 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Monday night. You have the crazy comeback by Minnesota. You 311 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: have the absolute madness of a final play in Patriots Raiders. 312 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: You have just absolutely brutal clock mismanagement by the New 313 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: York Jets against the Detroit Lions. And then you have 314 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: the officials inserting themselves and then not inserting themselves on 315 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: the final drive of the Washington New York Giants game 316 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday night. It was a it was a nutty 317 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: weekend of of NFL football. So I'll let you go 318 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: where you want to go. Let's let's start off with 319 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: the things that had packed the Packers the most first, 320 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: and it was the Giants Washington game. In terms of 321 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: this this wild card chase, I feel terrible for Ron 322 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Rivera in that football team. I feel terrible for Taylor Heineke. 323 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: I feel terrible, you know, for those receivers. One of 324 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: the more peculiar in a season in which I think 325 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: officiation officiating this league has been really poor. UM, I mean, 326 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: what can you say about how that game ended? Um? 327 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: And then reading the pool report afterwards, it's just I 328 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: don't even one of the things I really liked. And 329 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: I've said this numerous times when Dean Blandino was the 330 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: head officiate in the NFL was even if his guys 331 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: got it wrong, and it's a it. We're all human 332 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: in this game is moving at a thousand miles pro 333 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: where I get it, But Dean Billandino would almost put 334 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: out a statement every week commenting on the officiating. And 335 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: since he left, and there's been numerous people in charge 336 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: of the thing now, I feel like we're missing the 337 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: accountability piece. And reading that poor report, I don't know 338 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: what was more infuriating the way that game ended. Terry 339 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: McLaurin checking to see if he's on sides on the 340 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: line on the line of scrimmage right, and then God 341 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: only knows what happened in that interaction, and then for 342 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: the receiver to just be completely manhandled on the play. 343 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: It was strange. The whole thing was strange. And then 344 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: the conversation afterwards with the reporter UM felt weird and 345 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: surly and Curt. I just if you're if you're the 346 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders and you're they're there fans, I mean, like, 347 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: I just don't know how you come out of that 348 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: not feeling like you just got completely jobbed out of that, 349 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: or at least at least to the extent that that 350 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, not that anybody necessarily wanted to see the 351 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Giants and Commanders tie again in the rematch, but that 352 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: game looked like it had overtime written all over it, right, 353 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: that it shouldn't have necessarily been decided in regulation that 354 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: you go get the touchdown to the two points, you 355 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: go to overtime tied at and decide what had been 356 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: a pretty well played, entertaining football game and a very 357 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: impactful game as far as the playoff chase. Decided in overtime, 358 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: and see what happens with those two teams having already 359 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: played an overtime earlier this year. And yeah, from that standpoint, 360 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Washington was robbed at that opportunity. The Giants are one 361 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: went away from clinching a playoff spot, and they didn't 362 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: beat Washington this season. In this rematch, the officials beat 363 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: the Commanders. Yeah that's a shame. Yeah, it is Um, 364 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: the thing is, where do we go from here? Well, 365 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: the thing is, and I don't I don't want to 366 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: make it. I don't want to make it all about 367 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: the officiating. But um, you know, quite frankly, the fact 368 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: that Minnesota pulled off the comeback from thirty three to 369 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: nothing to win thirty nine to thirty six and overtime 370 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: in some ways overshadowed another horribly officiated game because the 371 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Vikings had opportunities taken away from them by just some 372 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: really really bad calls, and by the same token during 373 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the comeback, Minnesota keeps, in my opinion, kept getting free 374 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: fifteen yards for supposed unnecessary roughness hits that you look 375 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: at the replay and you kind of go, oh, that's 376 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: that's fifty. Like everything's happening fast, because Minnesota is in 377 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: a hurry, and you know, they got to score a 378 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: bunch of points, and it was like they're marching down 379 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: the field getting free fifteen yards here and there, and 380 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: and you get you get one look at the replay 381 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: and you go, wait a minute, like, you know, the 382 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: Colts are not playing well here, but Minnesota is getting 383 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: Minnesota is getting a bunch of yardage that it doesn't 384 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: seem like, you know, is uh is legit. So it 385 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: was that that started things and uh and I you know, 386 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: I hate that the officiating is such a is such 387 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: a story in the NFL. But um, but it is. 388 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: It's not getting better. That's the problem. We've been talking 389 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: about this for three years. It's it's not it's it's 390 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: not every year. It's not getting better. The rule book 391 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: keeps getting thicker. The rule book keeps getting thicker. And uh. 392 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, I've I've said this before an 393 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: insider inbox, I've said it to you, and we've had 394 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: conversations as an as annoying and frustrating as it gets 395 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: to see some of the things that happened on the field. 396 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: Big picture, I don't blame those officials on the field. 397 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I think the NFL has given them way too many rules, 398 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: way too much to manage. And when you have that 399 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: much stuff that you've got to try to pay attention 400 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: to and officiate and get the calls right. That's how 401 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: some of the obvious or which should be the simpler, 402 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: more basic calls of the game are going to get 403 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: missed more often because they've got them paying attention to 404 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: too many things. With out a system that is robust 405 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: enough to help them in the way it needs to 406 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: help that. That's a game. Bring it back to the 407 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: Washington New York game. I just I love that comment 408 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: from I forget which official is even the head umpire 409 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: that they were talking to. But um, you know he's like, well, 410 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, he could be counting personnel. You know, there's 411 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot of different jobs that go along with this. 412 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: It's not just seeing if the it's just like, oh 413 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: my goodness, but and and and and it's not. I mean, 414 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: come on, it's not as though. It's not as though 415 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: there were a whole bunch of illegal formations being called 416 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: during the game. And then and then, with a minute 417 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: to go in a one score game and two teams 418 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: fighting for a wild card spot, you're going to decide 419 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: the fact that Terry McLaurin is an extra two and 420 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: a half feet off the line of scrimmage and that's 421 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: a penalty that wipes out a touchdown when the when 422 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: Washington scores on the play and is ready to run 423 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: a two point conversion, Oh no, sorry, illegal formation. We 424 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: haven't called it all game, and we're gonna call it 425 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: now with the game on the line and take your 426 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: touchdown away. I'm sorry that there's an officiating problem in 427 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: the NFL and the league has to start taking it seriously. 428 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say on this um, this is 429 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: how you know, the officials and referees got too far 430 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: involved in the game. Minnesota had the greatest comeback in 431 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: NFL history, down thirty three points going to the second half, 432 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: and due by the time that game was over, I 433 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: didn't care, Like I honestly like, I understand the whole implications. 434 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: You want the Vikings to be playing for something here. 435 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: It was the most monumental comeback ever. And literally I'm 436 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: watching that game going on Saturday, I'm like, I just 437 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: want this to be over. It wasn't exciting to me. 438 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: It was like more frustrating because it's like, who cares 439 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: at this point? Yeah, it isn't. It kind of got 440 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: it kind of became the theater of the absurda in 441 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: in a in a lot of ways. So hey, Chandler 442 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Jones had a speaking speaking of speaking of theater of 443 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: the of the absurd, I tell you it's it's interesting. 444 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about I mean Robert Sale's mismanagement 445 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: of the clock at the end of the Jets Lions game, 446 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: and then what the Patriots did on the final play 447 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: of a tie game. I mean, those those two things 448 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: could cost both of those teams playoffs spots here that 449 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: those those could be the moments that their teams, their 450 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: fans are gonna be looking back on in the offseason 451 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs and say, our season 452 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: ended because of because of just you know, brainlock type 453 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, just you know, it's it's it's remarkable. 454 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the margin is so small in this league. 455 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: We know that there's so many games that can go 456 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: either way at any moment. And if the craziness doesn't 457 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: happen in the Patriots game and the game goes to 458 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: overtime and the Raiders win, maybe the Patriots then still 459 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: aren't making the playoffs. But when you lose the game 460 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: that way, when you lose the game the way the 461 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: Jets did, when they're fighting for a playoff spot and 462 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: they have to settle for a fifty eight yard field 463 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: goal to tie, which misses, and their coach took a 464 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: time out into the locker room with him after the 465 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: game that they never used, and they had to settle 466 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: for fifty eight yards, Like, come on, man, that's tough. 467 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: The uh the Patriots thing just starting. They're really fast. 468 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean I remember when I first saw it, I 469 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: was like, oh, so that the Raiders were up. It's like, 470 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, It's like when you first look at it, 471 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: you're thinking, you're thinking, like, oh, like the Patriots were 472 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: in desperation mode and this, this touchdown is only going 473 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: to impact whatever goes on in Vegas. You know, no, 474 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, no connection to the Raiders specifically, but whatever 475 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: goes on in Vegas with all the gambling and the 476 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: over under in the point spreads, and it's like, no, 477 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: the game was tied and the Raiders just won the 478 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: game instead of having to go to overtime, Like, you know, 479 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: is there anybody that took a bigger l at the 480 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: end of that game than Mac Jones? One one, he 481 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: the ball comes flying out to him, six ft five 482 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: sixty pound Chandler Jones catches it completely, pie shoulders the ground, 483 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: just face plants him. And then after the game they 484 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: asked Bill Belichick about why they didn't throw a hail Mary, 485 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: and He's liked, couldn't throw it that far? Poor Mac Jones, man, 486 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: He just he's just taking els all over the place. Um, 487 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: if I can really quickly just to close up the 488 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: thing on Detroit, I mean, dude, as much as the 489 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: Packers are trying to make a run here, Detroit has 490 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: been doing this thing for a month and a half. 491 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: The Lions have gone from one and the Lions have 492 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: gone from one and six to seven and seven. Um. 493 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: They're only loss in that time was was at the 494 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: very end of the game on thanks coming to the 495 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, who of course are right now the number 496 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: one seed in the a f C. That is the 497 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: only game the Lions have lost over the last two months. 498 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: They are they are winning the close ones, including the 499 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: win over the Packers at Ford Field. They've gotten two 500 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: two wins in the meadow Lands, beating both the Giants 501 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: and the It's on the road now and um and yeah, 502 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: the Lions are. The Lions are feeling it and uh 503 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: and they are. They are right in this playoff chase 504 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: right now, one game ahead of the Packers and uh 505 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: and if the Packers can can manage to stay alive, 506 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 1: it could make things very interesting in Week eighteen at 507 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: Lamber A lot more interested. I think everybody, including myself 508 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: thought that Week A teen game was going to be yeah, 509 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: all right. Well with that, we will call it a 510 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to 511 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the team. We will 512 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: have everything for you leading up to the Christmas Day 513 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: game in Miami on Packers dot Com. We'll have another 514 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: show this week also to preview that game and talk 515 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: about the Miami Dolphins for Wes I am Mike. Thank 516 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: you for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.