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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by

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Speaker 1: the U. S. Marine Corps DJ, Bucky here and Bucky.

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Speaker 1: Just one more week and the draft is finally here.

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Speaker 1: Crazy because we're finally here. It's been a long process,

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Speaker 1: but I believe we are in store for you, Doozy.

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Speaker 1: When the draft commences next Thursday. A lot of intrigue

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Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks, a lot of speculation, trades may happen.

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Speaker 1: Who comes off the board. I'm excited to see it,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be something that's different

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Speaker 1: remember a year where it's this hard to predict or

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Speaker 1: even come close to predict what's gonna happen. The only

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Speaker 1: Myles Garrett check after that is it's it's it's random.

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Speaker 1: And that still isn't like a percent. I'd say it's cent.

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Speaker 1: But we haven't really locked anything in this draft. It's

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Speaker 1: crazy because most of the times you can begin to

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Speaker 1: kind of as you talk about like I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to get them in the neighborhood. I can get to

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Speaker 1: the right house. It's gonna be tougher this year when

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Speaker 1: A Sorry. Some stuff we're gonna hit on today. This

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Speaker 1: is a load of show. We're gonna go favorite player

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Speaker 1: round by round, so seven rounds, we each get a

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Speaker 1: player for each round that we love. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: back to this perfect pairings with the NFC West, we

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Speaker 1: haven't done them yet. And then we're gonna roll an interview.

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Speaker 1: It's I think it's one of the more fascinating interviews

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Speaker 1: we've done since we've been doing this show. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes coming in here and being able to talk

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Speaker 1: and explain himself to me, it kind of changes the

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Speaker 1: perception of what I thought he might be as a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and a gun's line and making transition to the pros.

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Speaker 1: He's got some very interesting answers. I think the folks

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Speaker 1: are gonna enjoy listening to that one. But let's let's

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Speaker 1: start things off here in the NFC West. This is

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Speaker 1: a division, Bucky that ran the NFL for a period

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Speaker 1: of time not too long ago, and then we've seen

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Speaker 1: when we look at this these teams, let's try and

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Speaker 1: find the two players that we think would make the

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Speaker 1: most sense for them that we'd love to see. Let's

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Speaker 1: start here with the forty Niners. Solomon Thomas at number two,

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Speaker 1: I think is a perfect player. And the reason he's

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Speaker 1: a perfect player for them is, I know they've taken

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman the previous two drafts, but they need an

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Speaker 1: edge player, a guy that can rush the pass, and

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Speaker 1: there's a value in a guy they can play outside

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Speaker 1: and inside. Solomon Thomas as a nons dov motor, has

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Speaker 1: Dad leads me to believe that he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a guy that really routinely gets ten sacks a year

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Speaker 1: in their defense. And they've taken Buckner and Armstead from

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Speaker 1: Oregon in the last couple of years. But this is

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Speaker 1: a different type of player in Salomon Thomas, a little quicker,

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Speaker 1: a lot more presence on passing down. So I like

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Speaker 1: that pick there at number two. Right, Let's go pick

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Speaker 1: thirty four, second round. Let's stay in the pack twelve

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Speaker 1: and let's go to Buddha Baker and we can list

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Speaker 1: him as a safety. But Bucky, I think this is

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Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna drop down in the nickel and be

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Speaker 1: an impact player. Right away. You see him blitz off

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Speaker 1: got great instincts, and that's going to serve him well,

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Speaker 1: whether he's in the nickel spot or whether you want

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Speaker 1: better player. To me. I believe he deserves to go there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question. This is a newer, better version. All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's move on to the Rams, who do not

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Speaker 1: own a first round pick. But at pick thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: let's go wide receiver. Let's go Za Jones from East Carolina, somebody.

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Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time talking about the production.

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Speaker 1: to standing athlete, a guy to really impress people at

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Speaker 1: coming out of U C of long range. He can

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Speaker 1: put his hands on compressed to the explosive athlete. Did

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Speaker 1: you put in Wade Philips system that requires man demand

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Speaker 1: a lot of press coverage. Nice fit between player in

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Speaker 1: He's competitive. I like him a lot. R Let's keep

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Speaker 1: things rolling here with the Cardinals Arizona Cardinals thirteenth overall pick.

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Speaker 1: What do they do here? We go Larry Fitzgerald is

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Speaker 1: on his way out. He may have one more year,

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Speaker 1: So let's go get a replacement that has a game

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Speaker 1: it's very, very similar. Mike Williams from Clemson. Big bodied playmaker,

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Speaker 1: great hands, great ball skills, does a great job playing

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Speaker 1: seaver on this offense. I don't know you can find

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Speaker 1: I think he would be outstanding for Williams. He's the

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Speaker 1: best place he could go on the entire draft. Alright,

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Speaker 1: pick number forty five. Let's go to the defensive side

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Speaker 1: go back and get Duke Riley linebacker who to me

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Speaker 1: is one of the most athletic linebackers in this class.

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Speaker 1: You talk about range sideline to sideline, he gives you that.

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Speaker 1: I love when you're watching these guys when they're younger.

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Speaker 1: He's a one year starter, same as Kwan Alexander who

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Speaker 1: All right, the Seattle Seahawks twenty six overall. Pick all

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Speaker 1: this Richard Sherman stuff. To me, you look at the

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Speaker 1: to fit. I think he's a perfect style player for

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Speaker 1: second round. Let's go get Deon Dawkins from Temple. This

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Speaker 1: Deon Dawkins a guy that can play outside, can play inside.

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Speaker 1: His rugged nature, his blue collar demeanor should give them

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Speaker 1: They have to continue to upgrade that offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: let's let's keep things rolling here. And a quarterback that's

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Speaker 1: one of the more intriguing players in this entire draft class.

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Speaker 1: Bucky is Is out of Texas Tech. Patrick Mahomes plays

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Speaker 1: six presented by the U. S. Marine Corps DJ Bucky,

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Speaker 1: and we are joined by a big time signal caller

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Speaker 1: in this year's draft. Patrick Mahomes from Texas Tech joins this. Patrick.

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Speaker 1: would have been some of the things that you've been

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Speaker 1: able to learn from his success as a pro baseball

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Speaker 1: player and being a pitching in the major leagues for

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Speaker 1: eleven plus years. Yeah, I mean definitely, just just the

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Speaker 1: hard work that people don't see behind professional athletes. I

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Speaker 1: mean I saw all that when you're young. Everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: they're just so talented. They hit all these home runs,

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Speaker 1: and that just comes to them so easy. They don't

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Speaker 1: see I start gets in the batting cage when no

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Speaker 1: one else is just hitting off a t, just hitting

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Speaker 1: off the t, just straight to the back and then

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Speaker 1: and making sure everything is perfect every single day. So

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Speaker 1: just seeing that stuff, I know what it's gonna take

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Speaker 1: to be great in the MLB, I mean in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and then uh, just about seeing those guys in

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Speaker 1: the MLB. Well, we've got our our three h questions.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna ask you here in just a second. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, Bucky loves when I talk

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Speaker 1: about food. So the fifty yard line? How many, like,

447
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Speaker 1: how many of the little blueberry muffins can you have

448
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Speaker 1: before before you get to your stick dinner there in Lubbock.

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Speaker 1: I usually I usually don't don't really eat. Blueberry muff

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Speaker 1: is not my really my thing. I'm kind of my

451
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Speaker 1: like kind of bad food. About to get away from

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Speaker 1: is that text Mexican food that I like to eat.

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Speaker 1: So I think I have to get away from the

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Speaker 1: case and the stuff like that. Have you been to

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Speaker 1: the fifty yard line? I have been there one time,

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Speaker 1: and it's nice strong steak. I'm telling blueberry muffins. Who

457
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Speaker 1: serves blueberry muffins appetizer? Very a little little basket out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like that major highlight for you.

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Speaker 1: But but the thing was when I was going back

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Speaker 1: there and tex said there weren't any players. So I'd

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Speaker 1: been scouting out like I leave depressed, like fifty yard line,

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Speaker 1: get some little highlights. So that's DJ's highlight on the

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Speaker 1: road and love it. But I'm gonna ask you, what

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Speaker 1: has been the greatest highlight of your career coming up? Uh,

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Speaker 1: definitely winning at Texas UM Thanksgiving night, Uh, my sophomore year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I struggled at first half. I felt like I had

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Speaker 1: some stuff go my way, but I really struggled, and

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Speaker 1: I remember coach Kings were coming up to me and

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Speaker 1: saying that we can still win this game. And I

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Speaker 1: made a big throw late and we end up going

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Speaker 1: down running the ball in and winning it. And uh,

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Speaker 1: just just winning there was like the first time nineteen

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Speaker 1: years taken one in I mean in Austin. So it

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Speaker 1: was definitely a big moment in my career. That's definitely

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Speaker 1: a big deal. All right, Next one is the greatest hardship.

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Speaker 1: So what's the greatest hardship you've had to overcome in

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Speaker 1: your life? Uh? In my life, I would probably say

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Speaker 1: just kind of my parents and then separating, but as

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Speaker 1: a football player, for sure, just sitting when I first

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Speaker 1: got to Texas Tech. I mean, Davis Well was a

481
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Speaker 1: great quarterback, but as a competitor, you think you can

482
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Speaker 1: You're the best quarterback ever. So I mean it's something

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Speaker 1: where I sat and I kind of got down on

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Speaker 1: myself a little bit and I got thrown in the

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Speaker 1: game and I don't think I was ready h And

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Speaker 1: so that that was kind of the turning point in

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Speaker 1: my career when I was like, hey, you gotta focus up.

488
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Speaker 1: You don't know when your opportunity is gonna come. And

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Speaker 1: I mean it kind of was a great learning example

490
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Speaker 1: for me and something I look back on going to

491
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Speaker 1: NFL is you've gotta make sure you're ready for every opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So who would be your biggest hero? Uh, my biggest

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Speaker 1: herod probably be my mom if I had to say,

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Speaker 1: if a one person, my mom, uh my dad is

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's awesome just to see him play, and

496
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Speaker 1: then my godfather. Just watching Delatroy Hawkins, he played twenty

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Speaker 1: one years in MLB. I mean just just kind of

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Speaker 1: those those people are guys, people and women that I

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Speaker 1: really just look up to and they give me advice.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, before we got out here, I gotta

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Speaker 1: selfishly ask you another question. Here are my padres ever

502
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Speaker 1: going to be any good? I mean, well, I might

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Speaker 1: get your dad in your godfather out of there a

504
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Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know. They'll have a young outfielder. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got Mandy marco Is little cer. Yeah. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a favorite baseball team. I'm a I'm a Rangers fan,

507
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Speaker 1: and we're struggling right now. But I mean we got

508
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Speaker 1: some young talented hitters. We guys finish off the bullpen

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Speaker 1: and will be good. Yeah. We need some starters, need

510
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Speaker 1: a little bullpen anyways, but hard re's need a lot

511
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Speaker 1: of help. Yeah. Hey, look, it's been great to visit

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Speaker 1: with you, Patrick. We wish you the best to let

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Speaker 1: going forward. Man, it's gonna be a fun journey to watch.

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Speaker 1: We talked about all the time, you know, behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes and on our show. Your name of all the

516
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks is coming up more and more and more when

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Speaker 1: you talk to people around the league. You've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of folks excited and getting a

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Speaker 1: chance to meet with you. I can see why. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you. So there you go. Buck. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: To me, I gotta tell you, just uh kind of

522
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Speaker 1: blew me away with his recall. You're talking about plays,

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Speaker 1: He's spitting him right back to you and just had

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Speaker 1: a command of that offense. And I know that offense

525
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Speaker 1: is is not gonna be what he's gonna be challenged

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Speaker 1: with at the next level. But you know, I gotta

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Speaker 1: sense it. Okay, maybe he can't reel this thing in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. He's like a wow cult, but I

529
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Speaker 1: think he can't be tamed. I was really impressed with

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Speaker 1: his self awareness, being able to understand exactly how he

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Speaker 1: plays the game, why he plays the game like that. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think when you're aware of why are you trying

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Speaker 1: to play in a certain manner. Maybe it's the lack

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Speaker 1: of town the round him. I do believe you have

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Speaker 1: the ability to kind of rein that. In the other thing,

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Speaker 1: the communication, his ability to spit out plays and say

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Speaker 1: that he had to communicate it to the rest of

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Speaker 1: his teammates. Death's uncommon for guys coming out of this system.

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Speaker 1: That could give him an opportunity to have a chance

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Speaker 1: to make it successful. Yeah, I think he's gonna definitely

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Speaker 1: have a chance. Sorry to time now for the Scouts

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Speaker 1: I presented by Verizon, and this is what I've been

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Speaker 1: really looking forward to about today's episode, Bucky, because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go round by round and just identify our favorite player.

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Speaker 1: We're not trying to match him with the team. We're

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Speaker 1: not trying to figure out where he's gonna go. Talk

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Speaker 1: in this round. I love this player. You ready to roll?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, I'll start us off here

549
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Speaker 1: in the first round. My maybe my favorite player to

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Speaker 1: watch on tape in this entire group is Malik Hooker,

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Speaker 1: the safety from Ohio State. And we've made the comparison

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Speaker 1: a bunch talking about Ed Reid from the middle of

553
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Speaker 1: the field, watching this guy handle his business, anticipate range,

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Speaker 1: make plays on the football, and then once he gets

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Speaker 1: the football in his hands, Bucky's darning good chances gonna

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Speaker 1: end up scoring with it. He showed he can put

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Speaker 1: the ball into paying. His instincts is awareness, his ball skills.

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Speaker 1: He is one of the most instinctive center field safeties

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Speaker 1: that I've seen in Sometimes you just don't see guys

560
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Speaker 1: get from the middle of the field to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the numbers with the ball in the air like

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Speaker 1: he does. Know the pick that we just saw against Clemson.

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Speaker 1: I was in the building watch unbelievable. Unbelievable. The anticipation,

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Speaker 1: the awareness, and the athleticism to make to play and

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Speaker 1: then the catching and keep his feed and bounds. Says

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Speaker 1: a lot about the athlete and the fact that he

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Speaker 1: has only played football for five years, uh four years,

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Speaker 1: including a red shirt upside. When I when I look

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Speaker 1: around the NFL right now, and and this is not hyperbolieve,

570
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Speaker 1: but I'm saying that that interception he made against Clemson,

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Speaker 1: I can count for sure on one hand the safeties

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Speaker 1: in the NFL that can make that play. And I

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Speaker 1: can probably drop a couple of fingers down. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that is not a rare, rare talent. Not many

575
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Speaker 1: with those kinds of ball skills and instincts. And in

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Speaker 1: this league, turnovers are critical. Is the biggest deciding factor

577
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Speaker 1: in games. And so when you have a guy in

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Speaker 1: the back end that can deliver those kind of turnovers,

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Speaker 1: you like those guys, all right, that's my guy. Who's

580
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Speaker 1: your guy around one? Jamal Adams saying position different style player.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams to me is a guy that I think

582
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Speaker 1: is going to be an impact player from the time

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Speaker 1: he steps on UH campus. When he gets into the building,

584
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Speaker 1: He's going to change the temperature of the room with

585
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Speaker 1: his natural leadership ability. On the field, He's a versatile player,

586
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Speaker 1: dynamic in his approach. He can play in the deep middle,

587
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Speaker 1: he can play in the box, he can blitz. He

588
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Speaker 1: is a FaceTime hitter. Mean he he runners squarely in

589
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Speaker 1: the hole and he makes plays. Hard to find these

590
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Speaker 1: kind of game changes in the back end. You talk

591
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Speaker 1: about Mali Cooker being a guy that's the cinefielder. This

592
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Speaker 1: guy Jamal Adams being a drop in the box and

593
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Speaker 1: make plays. Both safeties are terrific, should be Pro Bowl

594
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Speaker 1: players for a long time in our league and Scottington,

595
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Speaker 1: we talked about being in a tone setter. UH. He

596
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Speaker 1: can set the tone in a game. You talk about

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Speaker 1: with his physicality, talking about his energy, his leadership, all

598
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Speaker 1: those types of things. Man, that's something that's gonna be

599
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Speaker 1: valuable beyond even what we see on the field. You

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Speaker 1: talk to folks behind the scenes, they rape about this kid.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna be a fantastic player at

602
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Speaker 1: the next round. Let's roll on to UH round number two.

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Speaker 1: I want Buckeye in the first I'm gonna go buck

604
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Speaker 1: guy in the side. Can hear Curtis Samuel, who I

605
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Speaker 1: don't know. He's been getting as much love as he

606
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Speaker 1: deserves here in round number two, I think he goes

607
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Speaker 1: off early. And round number two ran a four three

608
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Speaker 1: one at the combine, the quietest fourth three one ever

609
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Speaker 1: ever heard. Yeah, because John Ross went right before him

610
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Speaker 1: and and ran the four two two. But you talk

611
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Speaker 1: about somebody that can take the ball, Hey, take a

612
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Speaker 1: handoff out of the backfield, get a home run from

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Speaker 1: any on anywhere on the field. But I love him

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Speaker 1: in the slot what he does. I think he's an

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Speaker 1: efficient route runner, a little bit of a body catcher.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that because once he corrals the football,

617
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Speaker 1: he's tough to get on the ground. You look at

618
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Speaker 1: how Kansas City used Tyreek Hill. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see his team draft Curtis Samuel and employ him the

620
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Speaker 1: exact same way. Absolutely. The Tyree killife will certainly encourage

621
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Speaker 1: other teams to take advantage of guys that have similar

622
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Speaker 1: skill sets as a runner. As a receiver, he can

623
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Speaker 1: put the ball in the paint. Also in the kicking game,

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Speaker 1: he's a terrific player. My player is Obi melon Fon

625
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Speaker 1: from Yukon, and it's the versatility combined with the physical

626
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: dimensions and instincts that makes him an impressive player to me,

627
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Speaker 1: one of my favorites. When I watched him on tape,

628
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Speaker 1: I was impressed with his ability to just be a

629
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Speaker 1: steady eddy player in the middle of the field. He'll tackle.

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Speaker 1: Each year he got better and better in terms of

631
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Speaker 1: his production as a tackler, gets his hands on the ball.

632
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Speaker 1: I want to say he had ten career interceptions during

633
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Speaker 1: his time at Yukon. And the versatility, his ability to

634
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Speaker 1: go out to the corner, what he showed it to

635
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, to me makes him a can't miss. I

636
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Speaker 1: believe he's gonna be a star. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Obi mal Funel. I think, Bucky, what do you

638
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Speaker 1: think to thirty five? I think you see him that's

639
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Speaker 1: the sweet spot, maybe late first, but could also be

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Speaker 1: there right at the top of the second round and

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Speaker 1: be a good player. All right, let's go to the

642
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Speaker 1: third round. I'm gonna go to Alabama Dalvin Thomlinson, and

643
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: you know when you watch him, you watch all these

644
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: defensive players on Alabama tell me where the bad tape

645
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: is on Dalvin Thomlinson. I just see the guys sit there,

646
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: hold the point of attack. I see him push the pocket.

647
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: I think he's a little quicker and can get on

648
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: the edge a little bit more than he gets credit

649
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: for as an interior pass rusher. He's a darn good player,

650
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: blue collar player. He's a hard head and lunch bill guy.

651
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: Does a lot of good things for him. I think

652
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: he has a wrestling background, plays with low leverage, physical,

653
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: NonStop motor. I like him a lot. Also like de

654
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: Marcus Walker from Florida State a lot. He is to

655
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: me a little underrated in terms of his production twenty

656
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: five sacks over the last two seasons. A guy who

657
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: has great hand skills, instincts, and a flair for dramatic

658
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: In the biggest games when they needed someone to close

659
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: out the game, he was ultimately the closer. Athletically, he's

660
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily what scouts fall in love with, but the

661
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: production and the steady impact is something that I think

662
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: will lead him to have a long, successful career as

663
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: a pro. He's got that deadly swim move that he

664
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: likes to you, especially on the inside. That's a tough

665
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: matchup for guards at the next level. Al Right, fourth round, Buck,

666
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: you're moving on through here. I'm gonna go to a

667
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: running back. We talked about how deep this running back classes.

668
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt from Toledo, somebody who we saw his weight

669
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: fluctuate a little bit, played in the two twenties, showed

670
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: up at the Senior Bowl. I think he lost what

671
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds or something like that, was a little bit lighter,

672
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: showed some quickness, put a little bit of that weight

673
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: back on, and did a nice job. But moving around

674
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: at the combine, I think this is about the range

675
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: where he's gonna go. Talking about vision, balance and power,

676
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: he has it and he can catch the ball a

677
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: little bit out of the backfield. If you want to

678
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: use him in that way as well, you have to

679
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: have a versatile backs in your backfield, guys that can

680
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: catch it out of the backfield. Also their power players

681
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: being able to run in between the tackles and also

682
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: hold up in past protection. He can do that. The

683
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: other guy who I think can do it in this

684
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: area will be Marlon Mack from South Florida. When I

685
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: looked at the tape of Marlon mac South Florida one.

686
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: That quarterback that plays a bad athlete, but at the

687
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: fact three one tho year seasons, thirty two career touchdowns.

688
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: Um Marley Mack is a special player to me, kind

689
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: of sneaky with his power and explosion. His catches the

690
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: ball well out the backfield. To me, he is the

691
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: modern day pro football back in terms of being able

692
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things out the backfield.

693
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: Fourth round, if he's there, he's a nice, VeryE one

694
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: of my best players. I've been looking for a comparison

695
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: for him, but I just saw that he looks a

696
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: little bit like run dmc little Darren mcfatten up, big

697
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: time speed and juice. No, I like that one. All right,

698
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: let's this running back position is so deep. Let's go

699
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: with a third one here. Round number five. One of

700
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: our favorite play as we've talked with in the run

701
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: up to the draft, James Conner from pitt talk about

702
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: an amazing story. We all know what the kids battled

703
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: through and overcome cancer to get back on the football field.

704
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: And you want somebody that runs angry and runs with

705
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder, this is your dude. Get

706
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: out of the way, Mr referee, because he'll run through

707
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: you as well. I mean he is He's so much

708
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: fun for me to watch. Clemson Ben Buller talked about

709
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: the fact he broke his face mask trying to tackle

710
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: this dude. I mean he is a bull in the

711
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: china shop with the ball in his hands. Physical, he's rugged.

712
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: I can see him as the ideal four minute back,

713
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: closing out the games, grinded out short yardage, goal one situations.

714
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: He should be very, very productive. I like his ability.

715
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: The kid that I like in the fifth round Katie

716
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Cannon from Baylor. He is kind of flown under the

717
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: radar as a wire receiver, but you talk about the

718
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: juice to take the top off the defense and to

719
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: create big plays. He has that in space, big time

720
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: playmaker can get over the top stop star quickness is outstanding.

721
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Played in the system that didn't require him to run routes,

722
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: but as a vertical playmaker on the outside in a

723
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: draft it doesn't have a lot of speedy options. Katie

724
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: and and might be the ultimate sleeper. In the fifth round.

725
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: We talked about these Bailly receivers. Every your hitch, slant, post,

726
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: go right. That's all simple. That's all you gotta do.

727
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: Let's removing the round number six here. I'm gonna go

728
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: small school, and I'm gonna go Drake, and I'm gonna

729
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: go Eric Sauber at the tight end, who I got

730
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: a chance to see for the first time at the

731
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: East West game. And Bucky. He moves around like a

732
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Look at him, go up high, point the football,

733
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: down the field, run after the catch. You see the speed.

734
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: He's a legit four six guy, very very athletic, and

735
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: to me, not ready day one to make a big impact.

736
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: But this is a long term play, and where we're

737
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: sitting in the sixth round, I think he's got a

738
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: chance to develop into a starter. When we're talking about

739
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: the sixth round, we're talking about guys that are late

740
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: round pigs for already free agents, guys that we like.

741
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: We think they have a couple of redeeming qualities that

742
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: give them opportunity to develop into players. Sober certainly showed

743
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: that on the tape They gotta I'm going with his

744
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: ben Bullware because I believe production is also a trade.

745
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: He has been one of the more productive linebackers in

746
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: a CEC history. He is a seat, heat seeking missile

747
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: in the middle. He comes and delivers, has a thump,

748
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: has a nastiness to his game. I believe he could

749
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: be an ideal special teams player where he works his

750
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: way out to the field. That could happen. He has

751
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: to play behind a nice defensive line, but he can

752
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: run in chase. He's active. He has the physicality and

753
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the nastiness that will give him a chance. All Right,

754
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: The question people are gonna have to ask themselves, Bucky,

755
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: is this the next Zact Thomas Or is this the

756
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: next Scooby? Right? I think he's better than Scooby. Right, Okay,

757
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. You're gonna bow Scooby. I won't, I

758
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: won't go. Zack Tomis he's better than Scooby Doough somewhere

759
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: in between Scooby and Zach. All Right, Scooby, Zack excub

760
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: all right, let's go seventh round. I'm gonna go to

761
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 1: a corner. This is a feisty corner. Sojourn Shelton from

762
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Buck first tape I popped in on him. I

763
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: watched him against Western Michigan Corey Daves. He matched him,

764
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: so he he followed him around the whole field. First

765
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: play of the game, he got beat on a slant

766
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: and Corey Davis broke a couple of tackles. Then he

767
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: was feisty and fought him the rest of the game

768
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: until the very last play of the game. He gave

769
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: up a touchdown when the game was kind of in hand.

770
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: But outside of two plays, dude, this dude was competitive buck.

771
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: I loved I loved his his toughness, his willingness to

772
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: stick his face in there. It's the feisty dude. Kind

773
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: of reminds me of Malcolm Bubbled. The way he plays,

774
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: just kind of all grit, gut, hustle, determination, all that

775
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: other stuff has some trace in the seventh round. We're

776
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: looking for guys to have some of that. He has

777
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: a chance. I'm gonna go with the human joystick. I

778
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: think North Carolina Anti State University Eggy Pride for those

779
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: who are down that way in Greensboro. This is the

780
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 1: guy that can put the balls in the paint there.

781
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: He guess my beloved Tario Quicker than a hiccup, outstanding

782
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: balanced body control, can get in and out the Slitherery

783
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: catches the ball well out the backfield. Has some home

784
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: runn ability for a team looking for one of those

785
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: change of pace guys and a guy that can contribute

786
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: in the return game. Cohen could be the man. I'm

787
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna go off script here. I don't know they're not

788
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: ready for this behind the glass, but can I can

789
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: we roll those highlights one more time with Treat Colling.

790
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: I like, I would like your request, a special request

791
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: to watch some more Turek Cohen highlights. I can't get

792
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: enough of them, Bucky, I find myself I want to watch.

793
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: I want to watch a sitcom. I can't. I just watch.

794
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: I watched more Treat going out. Thank you very much.

795
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: Paint like to stop. Star quickness is remarkable, and when

796
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: you've seen the amount of production and he's been able

797
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: to compile during his time in Ant, you have to

798
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: be impressed the production to speed, the athleticism that he

799
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: gives him an opportunity to make a roster as a

800
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: late round pick. This is where I like to do

801
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: at night, sitting here. I'd like to pull him. I

802
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: like to pull my pull my remote out, just throwing

803
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: some tree Cohing, Maybe get your lemonade. He's a nice place.

804
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: He's fun to watch. I'm excited to see where he

805
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: ends up going in the draft. One of my favorites

806
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: as well. All Right, that was the scouts I presented

807
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: by Verizon. A lot of fun. They're going through round

808
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: by round the guys that we really really enjoy watching

809
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: and and uh, we're big fans of all right, Bucky

810
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars talked about him a little bit earlier.

811
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: They own the fourth overall pick in this draft. Be

812
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: interesting to see what they end up doing. But I

813
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with their general manager, David

814
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: Caldwell at the Combine to kind of get the state

815
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: of the franchise with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Alright here with

816
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars general manager David Calwell, Dave. In the building

817
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: phase of this Jack's team, the wins haven't been there,

818
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: but do you feel like you're on track building a

819
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: championship caliber team? Well, we do feel at a core

820
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: on track. I think the additions we made this year

821
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: organization with coach Marone and uh, you know, coach Coughlin

822
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: coming into the fold, I think is really good for

823
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: the organization. I think we lost ten games by a

824
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: touchdown or less last year, and uh, I think if

825
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: we could win half of those games this year, or

826
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: even sixty percent of those games. I think we're gonna

827
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: be looking for a team that's gonna be challenging for

828
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: our division. So what was the what was your reaction

829
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: when you found out coach Coughlin is going to be

830
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: be coming back to the organization. Well, I was off

831
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: for it. I think this is something that we've been

832
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: discussing for a while, and uh, I know shot Con

833
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: felt strong about it. So I said, if it's good

834
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: for the organization, it's good for me. And it has been.

835
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: I think he reminds me a lot of my mentor

836
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: Bill Poleion and uh, both very smart, great football men.

837
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: And it's great to be all walk down the hall

838
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: and and ask somebody a question and bounce some things

839
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: off of your opinion. Right now, Blake Bortles, where he

840
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: is in the process and how you feel about him

841
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: going forward, Well, we feel good about it, I think internally,

842
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: and it's been good to get another set of eyes,

843
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, new quarterback. Uh, a lot of

844
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: new coaches on the offense today, ball and there they

845
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I'll watch him and then picked him apart from every

846
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: throw he's made all year, and I think a lot

847
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: of them have been surprised about his play throughout the year,

848
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: And Uh, the guys accounted for sixty or four touchdowns

849
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: over the last two years, and I think that's fifth

850
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: amongst quarterbacks in the league. So I think he still

851
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: has a ways to go. He's he's only been in

852
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: a league for three years. He's going on his fourth year.

853
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: But we feel like he's gonna be good. And I

854
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: think the people around him are gonna kind of raise

855
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: a level of talent around him too. So you mentioned

856
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: Bill Polian, So that's the Colts, and that's a team

857
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: that went on a long run. You've got the pass rushers,

858
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: you obviously had the quarterback in place, got a couple

859
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: of big time receivers in Marvin Harrison Regie Way, and

860
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: you've got the big time tight end. First of all,

861
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: you're trying to try and duplicate what you had in Indianapolis,

862
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: and where are you in that problem we have and Uh,

863
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: we feel like we have two good young pass rushers.

864
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: Shann Conway was a rookie last year. Dante Filler coming

865
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: off a c L had a good year. Uh, still

866
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: has a ways to go to get back to where

867
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: he was when he came out but we really tried

868
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: to uh shore up the interior pass rush with Milike

869
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: Jackson last year. He had a nice year for us

870
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: in his first year in the system, and feel like

871
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna take us to up this year. On the

872
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: offense side of the ball, with the young receivers, Allen

873
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: Robinson had fourteen hundred yards and fourteen touchdowns. Alan Hearns

874
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: was a thousands receiver a year before with time plus touchdowns.

875
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: And Marquis Lee is a guy that really came on

876
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: this past year. And we look forward to those three.

877
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: You guys really taking a step up this year. But

878
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: I think some people might scoff at the fact that

879
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: you say, oh, they're they're they're not on track. You

880
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: look at the losses that have mounted up. But I'm

881
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: telling you when you when you really study this roster

882
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, I feel like we say it every year,

883
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: this is there's a lot of good young players on

884
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: this team, a lot of good young players, a lot

885
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: of talented players on both sides of the ball. They've

886
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: got skilled players that some teams would be envious of.

887
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: Allan Robinson, Alan Hearns, you have Mark's leader came on.

888
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: Uh gotta fix the quarterback and get better quarterback play.

889
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: But on defense, they have some young, hungry athletes. D

890
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: line has come together. They Mason moves in the off season.

891
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: They should be ready to rock. For whatever reason didn't happen,

892
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: but they seem there appears to be a new level

893
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: of accountability. Maybe they get better performance out there young guys,

894
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: and we look at players that we think would be

895
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: instant impact guys for them. I'll let you tackle the

896
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: first round pick here in a second. I'm I'm gonna

897
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: work backwards and look at who could be there for

898
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: them in the second round. Evan Ingram, the tight end

899
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: at Old Mess who to me is a total mismatch player.

900
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: You can put him in the slot, flex him out.

901
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: You basically have a wide receiver on your hands. I

902
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: mean he the way he ran, he ran low four

903
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: four two plus pounds, he's six ft three, um. He

904
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: is gonna be a nightmare for both linebackers and safeties.

905
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: Flex him out, let him do that, put him on

906
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: the wing, let him be an h back. You can

907
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: put his hand on the ground if you want. I

908
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: think you'd probably be wasting him if you do that.

909
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: But I just think he's a mismatched player and somebody

910
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: would fit very nicely surrounded by all those weapons. Dave

911
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: carb what was talking about the outside? You gotta continue

912
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: to send round the quarterback with weapons, regardless of whether

913
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: it's Blake Borders or if you identified young quarterback going forward.

914
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: You need to make sure that the things are in

915
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: place for him succeed. Evan Ingram would give them an

916
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to be able to have all of that in

917
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: the passing game. The guy that I would like to

918
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: point to in the running game, Leonard four Nette as

919
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: a bell car running back to me, will be a

920
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: game changer because they need to be a tougher team

921
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: in a division that is becoming increasingly more physical. Tennessee

922
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Titiants have changed way they're going about doing business. I

923
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: know the Indian out with this coast wants to get

924
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: back to being a physical team. The Jacksonville Jaguars need

925
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: to be physically. You need to be able to run

926
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: the ball when they want to run it and when

927
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: everyone knows they are going to run it. Leonard Fornett

928
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: gives them that bell cow running back the hanger head on.

929
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be a bad one two punch there if

930
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: You've got Leonard Fournette at four, and you came back

931
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: in the second round and picked up in Evan ingram Man.

932
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: You talked about really adding some juice there to the offense. Uh,

933
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: that would do it. Now. I brought this up the

934
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: other day on TV talking about the Jags and Blake

935
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: Bortles and the potential that maybe they could take a

936
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: quarterback like a Deshaun Watson with the fourth overall pick. Now,

937
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: neither one of us have a quarterback graded that high

938
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: in this draft, but just the topic of bringing in

939
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback and why it could make some sense. Competition

940
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: breed success when you bring it, create a competitive environment,

941
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: you make people earn their spots. You certainly get better play.

942
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles has been able to be the quarterback for

943
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: three years and really been unchallenged. Well, you bring in

944
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: one of these young quarterbacks that we're talking about, Deshaun Watson, Mr. Dbrisky,

945
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser, Patrick Mahomes and make him can beat on

946
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: a daily basis. One or two things are gonna happen.

947
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: He's either gonna get better, much like Drew Brees got

948
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: better when Philip Rivers came in. Or one of these

949
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: young guys are gonna pass them by, But for the organization,

950
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: it's a win win. I think you have to consider it.

951
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: If there's one of those guys there, maybe not into

952
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: fourth pick, but when you get to the top of

953
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the second round, if there's a young quarterback with the

954
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: trace that we like in our offense, I think you

955
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: can make pull the trigger and make him that quarterback

956
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: push Blake borders. He hasn't earned the right to just

957
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of coast. Here's the thing, You're gonna have to

958
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: make a decision pretty soon whether or not you're gonna

959
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: pay Blake Bortles. You gonna end up making a lot

960
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: more money than what he was making on that rookie contract.

961
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: If you get a rookie now, you're gonna have salary

962
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: cap or absolute troll over this position at a very

963
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: very low number, which is gonna allow you to add

964
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: more weapons around him, fix that offensive line. The defense

965
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I think is ready to rock and roll. So there

966
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: there is an argument to be made of why they

967
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: could look at a quarterback. I think at the end

968
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: of the day, push comes to shove. Uh, They're gonna

969
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna stick with Blake Bortles. And try and give

970
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: him some help instead of trying to replace it. Well,

971
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: I think so. I think there's a time when you

972
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: take a guy third overall, you are really invest it

973
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: in his success, in his progress. So they're going to

974
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: give him every opportunity to fail. With that being said,

975
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: I gotta win some games in Jacksonville. And they've simplified

976
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: the system as a system where any of these young

977
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks can come and play. Because Nathaniel Hackett worked miracles

978
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: in Syracuse with Ryan Nasset, he understands how to kind

979
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: of use some of those college concepts to help young quarterbacks.

980
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: That you're getting your Nasset dig in there with him.

981
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: That was a dig. It was a nasty It's an

982
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: old grudge music had. Bucky did not like Okay, he

983
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: didn't like him. I wasn't in love with him. I

984
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: didn't think he was the first round pick. I didn't either. Um,

985
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's go on now. This is my favorite

986
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: part of the show. We do this every week. We

987
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: talked about our time on the road all the time

988
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: on the Movie six podcast. We get a chance when

989
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: we visit with these general managers to get their stories

990
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: back in the day when they were area scouts. I

991
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: remember poweling around with David Caldwell back in the day. Shoot,

992
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: we were all together, Bucky doing the West Coast and

993
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: and all these different pro days, all these different stories.

994
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: There's some good ones, but I think Dave saved the

995
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: best one for last. And this is the one he

996
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: told me the other day out his road story. I

997
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: spent a good portion of time with Richard Simmons in

998
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: the l A airport one day. What did you talk

999
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: with it? We did? We sat down, We tried quite

1000
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: a bait. I actually think we took a little photo too.

1001
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, I gotta get that picture. And what

1002
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: did Richard Simmons have to say? He just kind of

1003
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: a football fan. No, he didn't even know who I was.

1004
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: He just sat down and started talking. Did you tell

1005
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: him what you did? No? No, that's fantastic. I got

1006
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: the picture. By the way. Oh gosh, it's good. It's good.

1007
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: All right. That was That was a jam Pack show today, Buck,

1008
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: and we are just a week away. We're gonna have

1009
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: a big show next week. They'll come and live from Philadelphia,

1010
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: so we'll be there and have all kinds of goodies,

1011
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of information, what we're here in last minute,

1012
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: what we think could happen. Uh, starting to get a

1013
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: little excited here, really excited about the draft. Can't wait

1014
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: for it to be all right. We are, we are,

1015
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: We are done today, but we will be back next

1016
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: week and it will officially be Draft week. I cannot wait.

1017
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for checking us out again. This

1018
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: has Moved the Sticks, presented by the U. S. Marine Corps.

1019
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: Thanks for down unloading Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah

1020
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL dot com

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