1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Well, let's see that we have on our team. We 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: have who's on first? Once on second? I don't know. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: That's what I want to find out, the guy's names. 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: And that's what I want to find out, the guy's name. 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: I tell you who's on first, what's on second? Ron, 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: and I think the parts problem is getting worse, and 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: I think to a large degree it's it's almost a 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: matter of national security today. Look at me, the car Doctor, 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: because I think the majority of people, when faced with 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: the dilemma of performing that repair on a hundred thousand 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: mile vehicle, Paul, I don't want to do that. I'll 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: buy a new car. The only problem is a new one, 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, not for them. Welcome to the radio home 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in the 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: garage to orders are open, but I am here to 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five, five six. And now 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: the car Doctor he running. Hey, it's time to start 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: your engines along and welcome on any of the car 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Doctor here at eight five, five, five, six zero zero 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: here to take the calls and answer your questions. I 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: love it when baseball season starting up, Buddon luke him 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: out to play and help me do the radio show 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: as we can't go off this hour. So proud and 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: honored to be here with them today. UM luck going 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: on this hour, We're gonna be joined by Jim Grundy. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: Jim is the president and the founder of Grundy Insurance. 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: Down around the bottom of the Yardgin is gonna stop 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: by the talk to us about classic car insurance. So 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: if you're thinking of taking that classic out of the 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: garage and you've got some questions, Jim's got the answers. 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: As we're gonna sit down and talk with him. And 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you in the pre show interview, Uh, 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: sitting and talking to Jim as we were getting ready 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: to do this. Um, he's a fun guy, He's got 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: a lot of information and he has a real passion 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: for this. So you're gonna enjoy it, So you want 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: to stick around for that. And then I thought I 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: would start off with a little bit of a challenge 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and a question for each of every one of you. 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, I took a class this week with the 44 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: folks at a TG Automotive Training Group a t G 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: training dot com and right off the bat, and I've 46 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: always agreed with this, they talk about the diagnostic path 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: and there are six or seven steps that are part 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: of any diagnosis. And in a lot of your calls 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: when you call in, I never hear anybody talk about 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: the first step if they're a mechanic, or that the 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: mechanic did it with them okay, or what the mechanic 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: did as far as steps to be taken. So here's 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Let's have a little fun this 54 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: hour while we can, if we can that, UM, I'm 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: looking for the first step in any diagnosis. If you're 56 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the customer, this is something the mechanics should be saying 57 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: to you. And if you're the mechanic, this is something 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: you should be saying to the customer. What's the first 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: step in any interview? And here's the prize, okay, because 60 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: there's always a prize here on the car doctor, We're 61 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: gonna be a good way one of the O b 62 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: D O b D two diagnostics made easy by Steve Cook. 63 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: Steve has been a technical writer, instructor mcchanic for about 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: a million years, just like me. We were both born 65 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: around the same time. We're both as old as dirt. 66 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Steve's written a really great book, O b D Two 67 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: Diagnostics Made Easy. It's available out there on Amazon, Amazon 68 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: dot com. But um, we'll give away a copy of 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: Steve's book. We got about a half a dozen of 70 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: these to give away. Let's kick one off today as 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: we kick off this hour of the Car Doctors. So 72 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the question is what is the first step in any diagnosis? 73 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: As per a t G and I agree with it 74 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: the A t D Training Group manual. What is the 75 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: first thing that should be done as part of any diagnosis? 76 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's a fairly easy, straightforward question. Um, 77 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking for an answer. Let's go over and talk 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: to Reggie and Lacrosse, Wisconsin. Some comments about a previous 79 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: call sixty five Mustang Reggie, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 80 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: What's going on? Good afternoon, Yes, yeah, I was. I 81 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: owned a couple of nine fair lanes back in the 82 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: Okay and uh I had to break problem and it 83 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: turned out it was a master cylinder was leaking and 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: then anyway, the brake fluid. It was a manual manual brakes, 85 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: not the power brakes, but the brake fluid leaked through 86 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: and staying the carpeting behind the pedals. So I wondered 87 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: that guy with the Mustang before he takes that moves 88 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: it away from the firewall, he can look at his 89 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: carpeting are on that at the back of the firewall, 90 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: or if possible, he could even remove that front section 91 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: of carpeting to be able to see the back back 92 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: of the firewall itself. He has he has power brakes 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: on his so he has it. He has a booster, 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be further away. But I get what 95 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As I was sitting on 96 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: the hold, I thought, oh yeah, I remember that from 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the old days, the master cylinder said out ahead of 98 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: that booster. So maybe it just leaks into the booster 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: and accumulates. It doesn't doesn't travel down that rod. Yeah, 100 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: that's what I'm betting. But you know, listen, it's valid thoughts, brother, 101 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: I get it. Um valid thoughts. So let me ask 102 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: you. You You want to take a crack in our prize 103 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: this hour, what should be the first step in any diagnosis? 104 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: That's that's okay. I'll let someone else handle that. Okay, 105 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: all right, listen, Reggie, I appreciate you being here. Thank you, sir, 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: you're taking care. You're welcome by bye. Um. Yeah, that's 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: it's as simple as that. Um uh, you know that's 108 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: My answers are up on your screen. Your answers are 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: prey or rain dance. No, Tom, that's not the first 110 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: step in. But you see, the problem becomes that. And 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: it's funny, right, how long have I been doing this? 112 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: Twenty seven years? Everybody talks about I changed this, I 113 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: changed that, and well not everybody, but not as many 114 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: as I would like. And I would like everyone to say, hey, 115 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: I tested this, I checked that, I examined this. It's 116 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I do it because I guess, and 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: we're human we make these mistakes. But you know, I 118 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: think it's this. I think it's that, you know, we've 119 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: got to get away, we gotta get out of thinking, 120 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: we gotta start diagnosed. And that's that's really the way 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: it kind of comes back to. Rich writes in from 122 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: an email run I've got a two thousand six Forward Ranger. 123 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: It's got a loose harmonic damper drives fine. The shop says, 124 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: to fix it. I must replace the drive shaft too, 125 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Is that true? Rich? I kind of need more information. 126 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like what you're describing as a loose harmonic 127 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: balancer on the front of the engine. And my question 128 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: would be, is this in a problem with the front 129 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: of the crank? Is the crank damage? Did the bolt 130 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: come loose and it's allowed the dampner to vibrate and 131 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: bounce around? Um? Or is there more to it than that? 132 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: So um, you know that's first step. Yeah, whatever they 133 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: do to fix the balance or they gotta fix the 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: balance or the second part of that becomes that the 135 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: shop says you have to replace the drive shaft. I 136 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: think what they're referencing is and maybe, and I'm guessing 137 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: we have to talk to the shop. Is it possible 138 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: that the harmonic balance or the damper created such a 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: vibration that the weight or weights fell off the drive 140 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: shaft and they're able to see a broken spot weld, 141 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: So maybe they're trying to say that the drive shaft 142 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: itself has to be checked for uh, for balance and 143 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: square So um, you know, just take it one step 144 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: at a time. You need to ask them more questions, 145 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: uh to see where that's going. Can we get over 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: the line too? Is that too? Do we have that ability? Um? 147 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I think we're stuck here for the second. Um, you 148 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: know Tom's Tom's a busy guy. To that, I should 149 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: point out Tom is doing the whole gig by himself today. Um, 150 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Mikey is uh, Mikey is out sick amongst the missing, 151 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: and Tony has um, Tony is amongst the missing too. 152 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: Um so let me uh, let me pull over and 153 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: let me do this. Hey, Tom, can I go to 154 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: line too? Um? Wait, Tom looking at me, So Tom, 155 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to go to line too and ask that 156 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: guy a question. So Tom says, yes, I can go 157 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: to line too. And are you there, sir? Yes? Or 158 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: you wanna take you want to take a poke? Let 159 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: me let me let me set the stage. So we're 160 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: talking about diagnostics this hour, and part of the question 161 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: was what should be the first step in any diagnostic 162 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: routine of any problem? What do you think it is 163 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: that I started calling good mechanic? No, no, sir, good answer. 164 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's not the answer I'm looking for. It's 165 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: something very specific. It's but I appreciate the thought. It's 166 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: it's something that mechanics should be doing. As part of 167 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: every first step. You're welcome. So you have a good 168 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: question to good day too. Let's go over to Dave. 169 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Dave from Mayowa. Dave, you gotta you gotta answer to 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the question. Yeah, I got an answer for you. Go ahead. 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: The thing you need to do, mechanic and the mechanics, 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: UH ask you. You have to ask you what problems 173 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: the car? Dave, You're absolutely right. The first step in 174 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: any diagnosis, I don't care what it is, has to 175 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: be the mechanic and the customer have to have an interview. 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: The vehicle owner has to have an interview with the 177 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: guy trying to fix it. Now, if it's your car, 178 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: obviously you don't need to do that. But and and 179 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: so many people don't do that. So many mechanics will 180 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: make the mistake. Well they'll they'll they'll drive in and 181 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, the check engine lights on, and right away 182 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: they'll start fixing the check engine light or g the 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: car stole two days ago. There's no interview process. The 184 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: interview process is the first most important step um in 185 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: any diagnosis. I appreciate you playing today, Dave. We're gonna 186 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: be sends you out a copy of Steve Cook's O 187 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: B D two Diagnostics Made Easy. It is a great book, 188 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: um uh, packed with information. It's a hundred and fifty 189 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: some odd pages long, color pictures done by I believe 190 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: his daughter, Um she did the cover and uh pictures 191 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: throughout it's it's just a real solid piece of reading information. 192 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: If you've got an O B D two diagnostic vehicle, 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: that's the book to have. Dave, thanks for staying, stay 194 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: on the line, and thanks for playing today. And Tom, 195 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: I'll get your information. We'll get that out to you 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: this week in the mail. I'm running aiding the card doctor. 197 00:09:46,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: Let's pull over and take a pause. Don't go away. 198 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: You need advice on how to maintain that classic g 199 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: t O. Ron is the guy five five five zero 200 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's go to line 201 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: to let's talk to I can't think of who that 202 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: is in Maryland. That's someone in Maryland, right, Tom al 203 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: Alan Maryland. I'm sorry we lost thank you. So listen 204 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: you heard you know Dave from MYO I answered the 205 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: question about what's the first step in any diagnosis? And 206 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: I know you wanted to answer that question. What was 207 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: your answer? Just out of curiosity, my answer is the 208 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: first thing the mechanic does is listen to the customer. 209 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: You've got to find out what the symptoms are. Customer interview, 210 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: what's the problem. If you don't know the problem, you're 211 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: never going to get the solution right. And that's and 212 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: that's that that that I think is the biggest problem 213 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: with It's the biggest cause of misdiagnosis. So let me 214 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: ask you this. The A t G Training Manual a 215 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: t G training dot Com they list they list five 216 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: other steps, one of them scan tool. What do you 217 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: think one of those other steps might be? What are 218 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: some of the other things you might do in the 219 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: course of a diagnosis? Uh? Well, after you listen to 220 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: the customer, I think you might drive the car. You 221 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: might have a finer sense of what the symptoms are 222 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: than the customer might be. I think driving the car. 223 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: But you ought to be taking some hard measurements. Um, 224 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: you put it on an analyzer, you get some hard measurements, 225 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe you get some codes. You gotta get as much 226 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: data as you can in order to find what the 227 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: problem might be. The last thing you do is look 228 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: in the parts catalog. You don't monkey with that until 229 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: you gather enough data to figure out what the problem 230 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: might you know, you know how that's good enough for me. 231 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: That the number two step according to A. T. G. 232 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: And I agree with this, also is research, Three is 233 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: visual inspection, four is a scan tool, five is a 234 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: road test, and six is your personal experience. What have 235 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: you learned being in the field. You know what we're gonna, 236 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna, We're gonna send you out a copy of 237 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: O b D two Diagnostics Made Easy. Steve Cook has 238 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: written it. He hasn't been an instructor in the automotive 239 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: industry twenty plus years. It's just a good, solid hundred 240 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: and fifty page explaining the basics of O b D 241 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: two diagnostics. It's also available up on Amazon. If anybody's interested, 242 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: they can get out to uh, you know am is 243 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: on and go look up O b D two Diagnostics 244 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Made Easy. The author's name is Steve Cook. Stay on 245 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the line while Tom uh while Tom picks up and 246 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: get your information and we'll get a copy of Thank you, 247 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: You're very welcome now, thanks for playing and being part 248 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: of the car doctor family. Um, yeah, it's you know, 249 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: there is a routine for diagnostics. There's it's not just 250 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: plugging a scan tool. The scan tool tells you what's 251 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: wrong with the car. Scan tool doesn't tell you anything. 252 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: The scan tool gives you information. The scan tool is 253 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: UM is more along the lines of, you know, it's 254 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: an information provider and then what you do with it, 255 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: you kind of take it from there. So just keep 256 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: that in mind. Let's go over and talk to Jim 257 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: in Missouri Online one. Let's go talk to Jim about 258 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: the O five Ranger that's pinging. Jim, where do you 259 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: standing with this truck right now? Well, it's uh, obviously 260 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: it's still pining. UM. I had a buddy that's got 261 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: a pretty good scanner and we looked it up last night, 262 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: and it shows that everything's working. It shows when you 263 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: when you rev up, it shows the e R valve 264 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: you know, opening up and all that kind of thing. 265 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: But a scanner was not able to tell the e 266 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: g R vlum to open while you're idling. It said 267 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: this feature not available or something to that effect. So 268 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's not available. I don't know. Five. Some of 269 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: my some of my next question is should because I 270 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: would love to see the I would love to see 271 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: us if we were able to open the e g 272 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: R valvet idle either electrically or vacuum was um to 273 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: see does the vehicle stall? The vehicle's got a stall 274 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: clean because if those if those e g R passages 275 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: are restricted, and if I remember right, this is a 276 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: higher knowledge truck. Jim, I'm trying to remember the vehicle. 277 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: It's two hundred and fifty thousand, but I had the 278 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: engine rebuilt. There's only ten thousand on the engine. Okay, 279 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm just I've just got a 280 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: concern for it. Do I have a carbon deposit issue? 281 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so in ten thousand miles, But do 282 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: I have an issue with you know, let's go through basics. 283 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: Tell me what's good, I'll tell you what's bad. Uh. 284 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, if we can get the e g R 285 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: valt to open in the vehicle stalls, then I you know, 286 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: I can eliminate e g R off thet all right, Uh, 287 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: this is an O five I'm trying. I'm trying to 288 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: remember now with this vehicle with the pinging go away, 289 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: if the vehicle was UM run on super was one 290 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: on premium, didn't it did change it? It changes a 291 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: little bit, but it does not go away. Okay, So 292 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: it's still always pains in detonates, right, Okay. Then the 293 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: next camperature sensitive. When it was in the thirties year 294 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: I was signed. But now we're getting into fifties and 295 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: sixties and it's it's being in a way pretty bad. 296 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: So then my next question is I wonder if fuel 297 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: mixture is. I wonder how lean this is. And the 298 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: reason I say it like that is because lean, you know, 299 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: you put more oxygen to a fire attempts to snap, 300 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: crackle pop. If the vehicle is running really super lean, 301 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: do we have an issue with too much oxygen in 302 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: the mix? I wonder what fuel turim is on this truck. 303 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: I wonder how right it is, how wrong it is 304 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: for that matter, and idle it was showing two points 305 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: something on the short term and five points something on 306 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: the long term. And then where is it cruising down 307 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: the road when the pingings occurring? Um, I don't know, okay, 308 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see what that is. Is that 309 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: within a normal range? And then I'd also like to 310 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: see this is a mass airflow sensor? What engine was this? 311 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: Was this the three oh or the four oh? It's 312 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: the two three? Okay? This is the forebanger Okay, so 313 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: this should be a mass airflow sensor engine. What's the 314 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor showing us? Does it show us the potential? 315 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Could that have an issue? Is it is that affecting 316 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: air volume? Is that affecting mixture as well? Do this? 317 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: Take it down? I replaced it. Yeah, but that doesn't 318 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: tell us if it's good or not. Doesn't tell you 319 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: if the wiring is any good, right, doesn't tell you 320 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: if the connections to the PCM are any good. So 321 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: do this. Let's let's learn how a mass airflow sensor 322 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: reports back. Get them, get the engine up the normal 323 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: operating temperature, and from a twenty mile roll find the 324 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: find the long, flat, straight stripper road and put your 325 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: foot to the floor. Accelerate. Bring up on the scan tool. 326 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Do this with somebody else in the car. Bring up 327 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: on the scan tool. Look at calculated load. Calculated load 328 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: is a measurement of how much you know intake the 329 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: mass airflow can swallow. In a sense, it's how much 330 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: air it's breathing in, breathing hard, that's what the mass 331 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: air is doing. It should show you a calculated load 332 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: value in the range. If it's down low, I'm gonna 333 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: tell you there's a mass airflow sensor issue. It's under 334 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: reporting and that could or it's over it's under reporting, 335 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: and that could be an issue. And if you want 336 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: to know, if you want to do this, all right, 337 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: if you want to learn how to test the mass airflow. 338 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: Do you have another vehicle that runs normal? Okay, do that? 339 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Do that test it has a mass airflow censor on it, 340 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: it's a newer vehicle. Oh well, yeah, that'll work. Calculated 341 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: load is calculated load, mass air flows, mass airflow, um 342 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: a mass airflow sensor vehicle. You hook up an O 343 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: B D two scant wel pretty much doesn't matter what 344 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: it is. Look at calculated load. Do that. Kick on 345 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: a long flat road, put your foot through the headlight. 346 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: You should see calculated load values of over eight. And 347 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: that's you'll and you'll learn how to do it. And 348 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: that's the reason why I say start out on a 349 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: healthy car, then transfer that to the broken car. All right. 350 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm not so, I'm not so unconvinced that this is 351 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna come back to a timing issue. And I'm wondering 352 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, do you have a 353 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: PCM problem, do you have a computer issue? I've seen 354 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: Ford computers do some funny things as they get older. Unfortunately, 355 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: you've got to test your way around and look at 356 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: everything else before you can condemn it. There is no 357 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: rule test for what I'm thinking. Well, and I sent 358 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: it off to a shop in Illinois and they have 359 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: it checked out and repair because I decided that's what 360 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: was wrong a long time ago, right, and it wasn't 361 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: And and they said they can't find a thing wrong 362 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: with it. Back later, Well, and you know, my whole, 363 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: my whole thing with this. You know, we're gonna send 364 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: it to a shop and have them test it is. 365 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody but the vehicle manufacturer has the 366 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: ability or the capability to test at the same level 367 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: as Ford engineering. So you know, you may want to 368 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: try and see if you can find a Junkyard computer 369 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: for giggles for a hundred buck and slap that in. 370 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: But we'll get there. Let's do some testing first, do 371 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: that stuff. Call me back next week. Coming up next. 372 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: Jim Grundy Grundy Insurance, trying to get that Classic at 373 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: a garage, trying to get some insurance on it. Stick 374 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: around the car doctors got the answers, will get back 375 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, we are back running any and 376 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. You know, we're talk an awful lot 377 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: you and I about cars, but we also talk about 378 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: and your questions show me your interest in classic cars. 379 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: And with spring summer cruising season right around the corner, 380 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: we thought it would be very appropriate to talk about, 381 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, classic vehicle insurance and classic vehicles taking care 382 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: of them on the paperwork side. So we've reached out 383 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: to one of the industry's best and finest. Jim Grundy's 384 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: the president of Grundy Insurance. He's an avid collector of 385 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: all eras of automobiles, his passions for brass Ara cars. 386 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: Don't get them started, folks, because we had a heck 387 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: of a pre show conversation him and I, and he's 388 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: a real interesting guy to talk to. He knows his 389 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: stuff and we're glad to have him here with us. 390 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: Jim Grundy, Welcome to The Car Doctor, sir, Hey, Ron, 391 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on the show. Our pleasure, Our pleasure. Listen. 392 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Question number one. Right, let's start at the beginning. People 393 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: out there saying, well, I've got a classic. At what 394 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: point does a vehicle qualify for classic vehicle insurance. That's 395 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: a pretty easy question run. But it said answer people 396 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: don't always understand, and the answer is, will ensure any 397 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: car from twenty nineteen as far back as they go, 398 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: say eight when they started. But the car has got 399 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: to have some milestone recognition, limited edition production car, you know, 400 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: it's got it's got to have collectible value. So if 401 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: somebody came to you with a nineteen Ford Shelby Mustang 402 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: something or other, that's a collectible. We insured one today, Okay, 403 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: But if somebody came to you with a Ford Ford Fusion, yeah, 404 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: probably not so much collectible, not so much because it's 405 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: really being delivered on a on a retail basis, is 406 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: just general transportation as opposed to collectible. But now we're 407 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: seeing you know, you go to car shows now, right, 408 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: and I've been to car shows. You'll see you see 409 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: Pinto's and we'll talk forward, right, you see Pintos and 410 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: car shows. Um, it's a classic now right, a seventy nine, 411 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: the Classic. And you know a lot of them are customs. 412 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: A lot of the foreign cars are pretty hyped up 413 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: tuner cars. We consider all that stuff, right, So so 414 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, if somebody came to you with a tuner 415 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: with a late model Honda that was you know, lowered 416 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: to the ground, with you know, loud exhaust and and 417 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: different tires and modified suspension. That's a collectible. It may 418 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: not be my taste, but I can sure understand why 419 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: people do it, and we're willing to ensure that. The 420 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: number one rules that we consider run are pretty simple. 421 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: The cars can't be your daily transportation for commuting to 422 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: and from work and go into the store. You have 423 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: to have a regular car for that. And the cars 424 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: have to be well maintained and garaged when they're not 425 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: being driven. And if you've got a cars as an 426 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: extra car, we'll call it you drive on weekend, you 427 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: drive for fund, you drive for calling events. That's will 428 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: be in short for gotcha. Interesting. Wow, that that really 429 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: broadens the field. And um, that that really does define 430 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: what it is. I like that. So then let me 431 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: ask you this, Jim, what guidelines does someone follow to 432 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: figure out what the value of the car is so 433 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: that they can ensure it properly. Because we just talked 434 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: about a range of cars right from Shelby to a 435 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: Sto to a tuner to a I mean, how do 436 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: you determine value. Let's go right to what we offer, 437 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: and we sell agreed value insurance. What agreed value insurance 438 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: it means is that when you as the policy holder 439 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: and Lee is the insurance company, come together and we 440 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: agree on the value that will insure your car for 441 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: that's how much you get if the car is destroyed 442 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: in an accident, destroyed in a fire, lost, stolen, anything 443 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: like that. What our policy says is what you get. 444 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: Now that's not to be confused with stated value, which 445 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: is a very confusing term. Stated value. You actually just means, well, 446 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: this is the most you're gonna ever get. So I 447 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: don't have any high oats and they're probably going to 448 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: have our appraiser, deductor age where and tear depreciate ation 449 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: and all that stuff to strike a regular car policy does. So, now, 450 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: how do we agree on that value? Most people come 451 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: to us with a pretty good knowledge and predetermined idea 452 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: of how much they want to ensure their car. For 453 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: number one, they know what they paid for it. Number two, 454 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: they know how much money they've spent restoring it or 455 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: customizing it or building it. And obviously everybody today has 456 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: a world of access on the Internet and auction results 457 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: to see what cars are worth. And as long as 458 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: we come in and a reasonably close h box of 459 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: what the fair market value of a car is based 460 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: on its age, based on its model, based on its condition, 461 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: based on its customization, we generally agree of the time 462 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: with the value that the policy holder owner submits to us, 463 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: and if we don't agree, usually takes us a couple 464 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: of passes. Uh, well, how come? What for? Why not 465 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: what you do that's special that makes your car better? Um? 466 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: Why don't you want to insure it for quite as 467 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: much as we think it's worth? Because it goes both ways. 468 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Some people want us to insure for more than we 469 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: might think it's worth all the time, and some people 470 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: want to insure for west because they're afraid they don't 471 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: want to pay too much premium. So let me ask 472 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: you women, So let me ask you this question. Wait, 473 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. So let's say you 474 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: get a sixty nine Camaro, al right, collectible car, right, 475 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: sixty nine Camaro, and it's got a stated it's got 476 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: an agreed value of twenty tho dollars and I'm low here, 477 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: but let's just say it's a twenty thousand dollars sixty 478 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: nine Camaro next week. Next week, one of the car 479 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: auctions that everybody sees on TV and all the different things, 480 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, sixty nine Camaros are starting to 481 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: sell for forty grand identical cars. Do I get to 482 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: come back to you and say, hey, Jim, you know 483 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: I just ensured this for twenty is agreed value, but 484 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: now they're selling for forty Can I can I raise 485 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: my cowboy? We didn't make that mistake at the outset. 486 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: But yes, we adjust policies every day, hundreds of times 487 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: because we've got to. We've got a market now, particularly 488 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: in muscle cars. Right now, by the way, muscle cars 489 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: are hot again. And you just call up and you say, well, 490 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: you want to increase the value. Maybe you did it 491 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: because you and we have both noticed the values going 492 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: up on certain marks of cars. Or you tell us 493 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: what you did. You gotta repainted, you re chrome the pumpers, 494 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: You're put new upholstery in it or something like that, 495 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: rebuilt the engine, and you added this much investment in 496 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: value to the car. And of the time it's just 497 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: done with a quick phone call. And sometimes we might 498 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: ask for a picture of the work that get done. 499 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: So then what determines you know, Grundy's rates. If if 500 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to Grundy and I'm getting classic car insurance, 501 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: the rates a classic car ensure are going to charge 502 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: to quickly less than a conventional if I can use 503 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: that word automobile insurance company. Why are the rates so 504 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: much less? We've been telling people for years that our 505 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: rates are about of standard automobile insurance rates, and that's 506 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: for a bunch of really good reasons, mostly because of 507 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: the people we ensure. And the first one of them is, 508 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: when was the last time you saw a guy driving 509 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: down the road with a sixty nine Camaro texting He's 510 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: not doing it right? When was the last time we 511 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: saw a woman drive to work in a sixty nine 512 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: Camaro putting her makeup on at the red light and 513 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: then proceeding down the highway with her with her you know, 514 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: eyebrow pencil in her hands. That's because of sixty nine 515 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Camaro required two hands on the wheel and clear focus 516 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: because you were driving the car, the car didn't drive you. Um, 517 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: you know that's absolutely true. But you know, car guys 518 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: are the same thing today when they get in their 519 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: car to go somewhere, and it's actually true of their 520 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: new cars. And we've proven that they're interested in getting 521 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: in the car for the driving experience, whether it's an 522 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: old car or a new car. And car collectors are 523 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: better drivers than people who just use cars as a 524 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: mode of transportation to get from a B B there 525 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: car people. That's the number one reason. The number two 526 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: reason is we require that the cars be garaged when 527 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: they're not being driven, so that there's protection against them 528 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: be installing or damaged on the street. Number three, we 529 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: require that our policyholders have another car for daily driving 530 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: to and from work and shopping, so that our cars 531 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: aren't aren't subjected to commuting hours of driving and that 532 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: sort of thing you can't even be done on the 533 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, once in a blue moon. I mean I'd 534 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: be a wired if I told you that on a 535 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: sunny day in June, I'm not going to drive one 536 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: of my collector cars to work. And I understand my 537 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: customers do it too, but it can't be an every 538 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: day affair, can't be an every day event. Hey, Jim, 539 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: sit tight, we're gonna pull over and take a pause. 540 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to. There's there's just so much here 541 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: and it's just so good. I don't want to rush this. 542 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: Let me pull over, take a pause and do what 543 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: I have to do. When we're right back, I'm on 544 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: a naming the car doctor. We're talking with Jim Grundy, 545 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: President of Grundy Insurance. We'll be back right after this. 546 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: Don't go away finding the car doctor. We are back. 547 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: We're here talking to Jim Grundy of Grundy Insurance. Jim 548 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: and I are just chatting up a storm. It's just 549 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: you get car guys together, and this is what happens. Jim, 550 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: thanks for sticking around during the pause. Um, so we 551 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: understand why why rates are different, and we understand agreed 552 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: value and stated value now and and and and how 553 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: guidelines are determined for value of vehicle, classic car or 554 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: classic vehicle insurance? Does it cover vehicle repairs and breakdowns 555 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: on the road in the shop? How does that work? 556 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: What should they look for? We have to give our 557 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: policy holders some coverage for that. I mean, lord knows, 558 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: we all know empty cars breakdown from time to time. Yeah, 559 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: depending on what state our policies in, we give customers 560 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: a few hundred dollars four or five hundred dollars worth 561 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: of coverage for for telling and a breakdown if they 562 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: have one, and that coverage even extends to extra expenses. 563 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: You know, if you take your car and you say 564 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: go go to the shore for the weekend or something 565 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: like that, and you're broken down on Sunday night, you've 566 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: got to spend the next night no hotel. We'll pick 567 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: up that tab under that coverage as well. So we 568 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: try to make the experience of a breakdown. It's bad 569 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: enough to have a breakdown at all, but to have 570 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: it be a financial hardship. We try to cover that. 571 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: You're you really like a partner with the person that 572 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: owns the car. You're taking care of them and the 573 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: car at the same time. I like that. Um, that's 574 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: a nice touch. Does does classic car insurance limit? You know? 575 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: Shouldn't limit? Everybody's afraid of. I can't get classic car insurance, 576 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: I won't be able to drive the car. You know? 577 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: Does that limit how often they're allowed to drive it? 578 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: We don't limit how often you're allowed to drive the car. 579 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: We think the you should drive the car. You know 580 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: enough to keep it running and good good order, and 581 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: enough to enjoy it. You know, a lot of people 582 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: do have that concern and they wonder about it. As 583 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I said earlier, we don't expect you to commute, and 584 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: that we don't expect you to drive it to the mall, 585 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: but we certainly expected to enjoy it on weekends after 586 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: work to the groceries steward of the ice cream shopper. 587 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: You know, just fun driving, just as you would. And 588 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: as I said earlier, the main test is do you 589 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: have another car for your daily driving and for bad 590 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: weather driving and so forth? Do you do? You show 591 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: you you don't really care if they go two thousand 592 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: a year or or ten thousand a year. It's run. 593 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, I'm a brass car collector, which means 594 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I collect cars of the era before odometers or phenomenas. 595 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Okay exactly. In the cars that I have, most of 596 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: them wouldn't work if I did and stole them, because 597 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: the tires are so big and the wheels are so 598 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: out around, and I would never get an accurate reading. 599 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: So we can put a bios limitation on our policies, 600 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: so so so the odometer police aren't coming to somebody's 601 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: house to say, okay, how far did you go? It 602 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter you know there wasn't insurance company one 603 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: time that did have bile warranty on their policies. I thought, well, heck, 604 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: what do you do if you hit and you're driving 605 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: home and you're five miles away? I guess you're supposed 606 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: to stop and call up and buy another policy real quick, 607 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: or get it or get it flatbedded. I can't imagine, 608 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: Jim Grundy, I have had so much fun with you 609 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: this afternoon. I've got to tell you've been a great, 610 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: great time. But let me ask you before you go. 611 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: I got two quick questions. The first one's easy. Where 612 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: can the listeners go get more information dot Grundy dot com. 613 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: And I always asked my car guy guests, so what 614 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: was your first car? What lit your fire? My mother's 615 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: used woody station wagon? What year? Yah? What was so 616 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: special about it? It was it had wheels and it 617 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: ran and I could drive it to school. And by 618 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: the time I was done with it, I think all 619 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 1: the interior was gone because my buddies beat it all up. 620 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: And I finally, I remember when I got rid of 621 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: that car. The engine ran, but the transit mission was shot, 622 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: and I called the guy at the chantyard and I said, 623 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: what will you give me for it? And he said, well, 624 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: if it's drive uball, I'll give you a hundred bucks. 625 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: If you've got to get a toe in, I'll only 626 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: give you a six. So we pulled the car. We 627 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: towed the car to about a half a mile from 628 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: his shop. We pushed it real hardly, got the engine run, 629 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: and I rolled in and pulled up and said, where's 630 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: my hundred dollars, Jim Grundy. We're gonna have you back, 631 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: sir um. Just a good time and you have a 632 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: good you have a good cruise in season this summer, 633 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: and then we'll talk to you. Take good care. Thanks 634 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: so much. You're very welcome. I'm Ronningating the car Doctor 635 00:32:53,240 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: and we are back right after this. Hey, welcome back 636 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: ron Card once again, thanks to Jim Grundy Grundy Insurance 637 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: for taking the time today. You know, and during that interview, 638 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about it, right, classics. You think about 639 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: classic cars, And I was thinking about probably the most 640 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: classic or one of the most classic car movies of 641 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: all times, Smokey and the Bandit. I was watching it 642 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: the other day and you know, Tom, I started thinking, 643 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: as I'm watching the movie, how politically incorrect and how 644 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't work today. Well, take the scene where they're 645 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: on the CB radio. Well, the CB radio was the 646 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: form of communication that's distracted driving, isn't it? Technically yes? 647 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: But like in New York State, there is an exemption 648 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: for HAM radio operators. So because then FCC license thing, 649 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: so the C and as a CB, so that may 650 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: carry over. But you're not driving while you're working your 651 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: HAM radio. You can you can drive and work your 652 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Ham radio, can't you? But you wonder is that distract 653 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: that draw? Iiving and think about how a modern version 654 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: of Smoky and the bandit wouldn't work right the scene 655 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: where they pull up in the town when he's getting 656 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: when he's getting the beer from Texas Arcana and and 657 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: the trans am slides into the you know, in front 658 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: of and it hits the brakes and they squeal and 659 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: the car kind of the cars would have a b 660 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: S today was exactly it was just kind of you know, 661 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: and if it was an electric car, forget if the 662 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: movie would be boring, what is it gonna be if 663 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: it was? Well, you know, if we ever have robot 664 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: police and self driving cars, are they gonna chase each 665 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: other right, you know, with the Robots Revolt, I'm thinking, 666 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: thank god I grew up what I did, because at 667 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: least car movies and chases and all that stuff it 668 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: was fun to watch watch, it was fun to participate 669 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: if you participated. And yeah, and I just you know, 670 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: you look at car movies and as the technology moves 671 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: us forward, and technology is really accelerating, and they say 672 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: the next five years worth of car technology is gonna 673 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: make the past look like it was standing still. You know, 674 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: you've really got to sit there and appreciate what you've 675 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: seen at this point and what's yet to come. But 676 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: you've got to look back and even how it affects 677 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: classic movies and classic cars, because it's just never gonna 678 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: be the same. It's like it's like the Great Wild West. 679 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: You're seeing it disappear one piece at a time and 680 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: being replaced by something else. And it makes me happy 681 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: to be here taking care of all the cars and 682 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: all the problems. And I am really happy to be here. 683 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: And because of that, I am rondonating in the Car Doctor, 684 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.