WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 123122 2022 The Year in Review (Part 1) 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.680 Welcome to another episode of Civic Cypher. I'm your host, 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:09.120 Ramsey's job is Ramsey's job. I am Q Wharton. Listen, 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.600 I'm gonna need you to stick around because this is 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:16.759 our year end recap episode and you are listening to 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.119 Civic cipheres. Indeed, so around here on Civic Cipher for 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:26.680 those who are just getting familiar, we talk about a 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.520 lot of stuff, talk about a lot of heavy stuff. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.160 We talk about political issues that are important to black 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.479 and brown communities, We talk about systemic issues that are 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.320 important to black and brown communities. We talk about we 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.680 talk a lot about police violence and justice, shootings, that 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:50.120 sort of stuff. In short, our show is not lit, Yeah, 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:51.880 but it's important, you know what I mean. There's a 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.840 gravity here. There's a lot of gravity here. That's what 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:55.160 I meant. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.640 It's not lit, it's not light, it's not trivial, it's 0:00:58.680 --> 0:00:59.960 not just for your entertaining. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:02.960 There's some education here. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.160 There's a lot of gravity here, a lot of truth here, 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.200 and sometimes even some hurt unfortunately. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:13.360 Sure. Sure, And this past year we spent a lot 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.080 of time talking about a lot of different issues. So 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.840 we're going to review some of the standout topics that 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.200 we've discussed, and you're welcome to go back and check 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.800 out our websites of Exciteer dot com and listen to 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.959 these stories at length. But great show in store for 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.000 you where we get a chance to really just reflect 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.600 on what we've seen happens about the year. Also, we're 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:38.720 going to spend some time talking about black banking institutions. Okay, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:44.080 why they're important, you know, what they need. This is 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.319 something that is new to me and so I'm excited 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.880 to continue to learn more and hopefully share something that 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.080 you haven't learned before. And then, of course for our 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.320 way Black history fact, we're going to talk about the 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:59.400 great African Roman Emperor. Sounds interesting, wow, so stick around 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.040 for that. But yeah, first and foremost, we're going to 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.320 get into some Ebony Excellence, which is q's favorite. Second 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.960 absolutely indeed, So today's Ebny Excellence is sponsored by Hip 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.679 Hop Weekly Media, and we are going to be discussing 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.840 Greenwood Incorporated. I mentioned we're going to talk about black 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:23.360 banking institutions. Well, this comes from Black Enterprise dot Com. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:28.080 Greenwood Incorporated continues to lead the Black bank Movement or sorry, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.560 the bank Black movement, with another forty five million adventure 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:37.480 capital funding, so I'll read. Greenwood Incorporated, which kicked off 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.520 the Bank Black movement in twenty twenty, announced that it 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.360 has raised forty five million adventure capital funding to expand 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.520 its digital banking services. Forbes reported the Atlanta based digital 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.600 banking platform is co founded by former entertainment executive Ryan Glover, 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.000 tech entrepreneur Paul Judge, ninety year old former Atlanta mayor 0:02:55.080 --> 0:03:00.000 Andrew Young Junior, and rapper Michael Killer Mike Grinder. Greenwood, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.000 inc named after the Oklahoma city where the Tulsa Race 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.480 Maxacre took place, was created to help black and brown 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.960 consumers who increasingly pivot to minority own financial institutions as 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:14.239 an alternative to mainstream banks, which have decades long histories 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.080 of racial discrimination. That's another thing we've talked about on 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.679 the show. We'll get to more of that in just 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.440 a minute, but for now, I'll wrap up our emany 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.840 excellence here. Greenwood Incorporated currently has about one hundred thousand 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.400 accounts with another two hundred thousand on a waiting list. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.239 It's a great position to be in. The digital Bank's 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.720 latest funding round was led by Pendulum, a firm that 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.960 targets black and Brown founders. The investment made Pendulum the 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.600 largest investor on a dollar basis in the digital banking platform. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.000 So once again, shout out to Greenwood Incorporated and shout 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:51.560 out to all those responsible for bringing it to life. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.160 We love to see the growth in that sector. The 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.640 bank Black movement is alive and well and we'll keep 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:06.120 monitor indeed. So yeah, now Civic Cipher our year in review. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.400 All right, let's go back to January a long time ago. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.080 Do you remember we had a show Q where we 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.520 asked the question why do many Black people vote Democrat? 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:22.839 I do remember that show. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.560 I remember that question being asked on the show, and 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.080 I think we both can recall that question being asked 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.960 hundreds of times before and ask you he's actually even 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.600 had that conversation with Charlottagne. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:39.279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, of course we invite 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.120 you to go back and listen to the episode. But 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:46.960 in short, based on what I remember, that essentially boiled 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:52.040 down to the framework of our political system here in 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:57.320 the country. We have a two party political system and 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:05.960 a lot of black people have a shared reality. Of course, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:13.040 we have, you know, a large shared culture, but yeah, 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.840 I think it's more of the shared reality we experience 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.320 America in largely the same way, and if we are 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:26.159 looking at a two party system, then we can only 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:32.760 choose one of those. And so I want to say 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:38.919 it was Eldridge Cleaver who said that none of the 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:43.040 political candidates really speak for us. They don't know us. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.040 That this was back in the sixties or whatever, but 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.480 he said something was It was a very profound speech 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.520 that he had given, and I just remember this part 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.760 of it, but he said, you know, Nixon and whoever 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.600 his opponent was, I forget the name. They don't they 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.560 don't speak to us. They're not for us, they're not 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:04.839 for our communities. They have no interest in making our 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:14.240 realities better. But one of them could potentially make our 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:20.080 reality worse. And this is kind of a reality that 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.120 a lot of black people have to live with in 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:26.680 terms of you know, when we cast our vote, a 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.000 lot of times, the excitement that you may see is 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:34.720 not in us voting for a particular candidate, Obama being 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.760 a notable exception for obvious reasons. I hope that no 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.160 one out there would question why that would be important 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:45.440 for black and brown people to see. But again, our 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.560 excitement when we cast our votes isn't necessarily because we're 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:53.479 getting our person in the office. It's often because we're 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.119 voting against a person who will make our reality worse. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:02.640 And there's something there, you know, I remember having the conversation, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:08.279 there's something there about us voting almost like a voting block, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.280 you know what I mean. We we're not a what's 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:17.760 the word, We're not a monolith. But when we vote again, 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:26.160 it reflects our shared reality. And we've seen and heard 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.360 from our family members who've come before us, We've read, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.040 you know, those of us that know a bit about 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.840 our history, we recognize that. You know, there have been 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.480 moments in history, American history where black people have done 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:43.560 very well, and there's one of the time been a 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:48.720 subsequent backlash against those various black communities that have done well. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.640 They've kind of created their own governments, elected officials, created 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:58.040 black banking institutions, and you know, doctors and hospitals and 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.040 schools and so forth, and they get burned to the 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.400 ground or there's you know, some sort of corruption that 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.480 takes place, or the clan gets called in and they 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.880 kill everybody, or whatever the case is. So because we 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:14.640 know this, we recognize that things can get worse and 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.320 for many of us, it feels like this is really 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:25.800 the extent of our allowance of that's not the right word, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:31.920 and me think it's the extent of our capacity to 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.640 involve ourselves in the political process. Here. It's not like 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.720 we're writing letters to people and they're going to listen 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.520 and come back. And that's not just a black person thing. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.080 A lot of people feel like if you write a letter, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.520 it doesn't really go anywhere unless you're connected, you know. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.360 So you know, once every couple of years we get 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.720 a chance to cast our vote, and if we have 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.959 a largely shared reality, then it's very easy for us 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.280 to have that shared reality be reflected in the votes 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.440 that we cast. And so, yeah, I do remember that conversation, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.880 but that was the show. In short. We obviously peeled 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:05.800 back a lot more layers. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.240 Yeah, and I mean the acceptance of our reality and 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.240 the truth that comes with the outcomes with regard to 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.960 how they affect our lives. It's a sad truth that 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.400 we have to think and vote that way. You know, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.240 there's no one out there's going to make things better 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.600 for us. Yeah, there's no one out there who's even 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:30.559 considering us in most cases. But there's somebody and I 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.040 won't say that there's no one considering us. There's nobody 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.439 considering better outcomes for us. Sure, some people are absolutely 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.440 considering worse outcomes for us, and we have to often 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.679 cases vote to protect ourselves from that. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:48.240 Oh, we've seen time and again that we are very 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.840 much disposable. Yeah, the misguided war on drugs is a 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:59.439 great example there are you're so kind misguided. It was guided, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.320 it was specific, but it was it was intended to 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.440 disrupt the hippie community and the black power movement. We 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.400 can call it. Share Such a kind, graceful and generous 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.760 human being. I love you for that. You know, we 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.880 got some listeners where the truth kind of hits hard, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.600 and so we got to soften it a little bit. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:23.400 But you know, anyway, you know, there's again active aggression 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:30.320 from our government toward black people. There's a history of it. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.000 There's lots of history of it. You know, a couple 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:34.760 of years ago, when we were dealing with whether or 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.920 not to get people vaccinated, we had to, you know, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.240 come up against the Tuskegee experiments. In short, these experiments 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:47.040 that the United States government performed on black sharecroppers and 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.640 infecting them with syphilis and then refusing to give them 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:53.080 treatments just to see what would happen. So these black 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.559 people were disposable, you know, these black people were expendable. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.679 You know, these these experiments, and this is something going 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:04.800 back to and so the Democrats often don't feel like 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.480 you know, granted, Democrats have done a lot of stuff 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.040 that has made things worse, and particular those studies that 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.960 they did about housing in the structure of the black family, 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:20.880 where there's a Democrat Democrat backed study that suggested that 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.800 black fathers not being in the home was the result 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:31.520 of or or ended up resulting in the economic state 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:32.840 of Black America. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.440 There is also some I guess role reversal, right, because 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.320 when you say democrat, the modern democrat is not the 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:41.239 same as. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:45.120 Sure, sure, that's that's fair. But also I think that 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:55.440 speaks to the fact that these political parties don't live 0:11:55.480 --> 0:12:00.120 our reality. So to continue with the one subject that 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:04.160 I was just mentioning, the Democrat backed study on you know, 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.559 economics and black household and so forth and home ownership, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:13.760 et cetera, pointed out that like unmarried black mothers was 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.040 the source of all this stuff, and it didn't account 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:20.560 for the fact that black people economically were worse off 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:25.880 and when you get married, it compromises your ability to 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:30.600 get benefits. It didn't account for the fact that black 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:37.560 people were unfairly targeted by police, died at younger ages, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.800 et cetera, all these sorts of things. And so when 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:45.199 you adjust for those elements, and we didn't find that 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:50.800 out until recently, black people are actually better fathers to 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:58.160 their children than any other race everybody, right, And it 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.840 took a long time for that to come out because 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.720 it sud He was done and believe in the early sixties, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.319 late fifties somewhere in there. But that became a myth 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.000 that Black people don't take care of our children, Black 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.480 men don't take care of our children, and everybody just 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.559 accepted it completely ignoring the fact that Africa is a 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.240 place that exists where black men take care of their 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.920 children just fine, you know what I mean. Completely ignoring 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.040 the fact that there are societal and then governmental and 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:29.320 structural conditions put in place, oftentimes causing a people who 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.000 are trying to survive to get creative with what survival 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.800 looks like. And so if that means that we can't 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.480 get married, so that you can keep getting your benefits 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.600 and we'll have enough food to eat. Then so be it. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.240 But then that means you're not married. But we're still 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.880 a family. We're married and all but a piece of paper. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.160 And just suppose what it means to be black in 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.319 America specifically, which is a whole. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.360 Entire can of gasoline and prone that fire. Sure. Another 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.640 thing we talked about was does defunding the police work? 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.960 And you know, the jury is still out on that. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.560 I'm a big fan of defunding the police. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.200 Is the jury still out though, because we haven't so 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.120 we don't have a control group to give you any 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.400 day that we haven't defunded the police to know if 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:11.079 it works. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.600 So, you know what I'm saying, that's a fair point question. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.000 That's a fair point if we're being scientific about it. 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:21.920 There hasn't been a control group versus a non control group. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.800 But we'll we'll get into this a little bit more 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.840 because this has kind of been our thing all year. Yes, 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.760 So when I say the jury still out on that, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.920 I am saying that to say that this is supposed 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:41.080 to be a long term look at the overall effects, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.360 not just what's happened in six months. Or a year, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:48.240 not something that's been over overshadowed by you know, the economy, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.120 or overshadowed by a pandemic. Something that can exist on 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.520 its own, in a vacuum, in a controlled environment, if 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.800 you will, controlled I guess national environment or climate, a 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.480 controlled national climate, where there there's nothing that could really 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:07.880 sway the results in one significant way or another. You're 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:13.240 just left to see, Okay, this city has poured more 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.280 money and resources into their police. They had similar rates 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.359 of crime or whatever beforehand, and this city has defunded 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.840 their police department and put those funds into crime prevention measures, 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.720 to increasing job stability, increasing housing stability, and making sure 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.760 that you know, schools are funded properly, making sure that 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.880 there's no need for there to be crime in the 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:42.080 first place. Because the funding the police narrative assumes that 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:47.200 human beings will just be bad, and the defunding the 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:52.280 police narrative assumes that a very small percentage of people 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.160 will just be bad. Everyone else is only bad based 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.360 on the fact that they have lack of options or 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.440 they're backed up against the wall, and then they cultivate 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.640 a lifestyle around the lack. So is the question, then, 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:13.080 would defunding the police work instead of does right, because 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.440 the example that you just gave would actually be in 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.240 the show. In the show, there were a couple of 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:22.800 cities where they had they were reporting early data, and 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.280 they were some of the cities where it looked like 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:30.240 very promising, you know, it looked great. But there were 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.640 other cities that they had defunded the police and if 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.400 I remember correctly, and you know, crime rates, there was 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.040 no appreciable impact on crime rates or crime had gone 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:41.800 up or something like that. And these were the headlines. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.120 And when you look at who's behind the media, then 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.000 you're like, okay, well wait a minute, have we had 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:47.840 enough time, of. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:53.280 Course to see such a dishonest headline? And are there 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.680 other factors that might be affecting this? You know, if 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.400 there's I again, economic factors. You know, if people have 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.400 no money, we'll figure out a way to eat. People 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:02.960 will figure out a way to feed their kids. People 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.600 will figure out a way to survive. Right, and it 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.919 does Your laws don't matter at that point. Shoplifting is 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.560 breaking the law. But if you have food in your 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.080 store and I'm hungry, guess who's getting. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.760 Some food me? I'm not worried about the laws. I'm 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.040 not about to starve to death when you got a 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.480 store full of food, and if I can just walk 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.760 in there and get it right, this is it's inhumane. Right. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.000 But when they take those crime rates and say, well, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.840 shoplifting is up because we've defunded the police, No, you're 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.280 connecting the wrong dots here, you know what I mean. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.240 So anyway, we had that conversation and I employed to 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:37.960 go back and check that out. That was in January 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.840 and February. We talked about did Ahmad Aubrey's murderers get 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.440 what they deserved? And then we talked about the officer 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.600 Kim Potter. That's the woman who was in Michigan and 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.080 she shot the young man. Do me fabric, Can you 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.760 find his name because I want to say his name. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:18:00.919 That's the thing that we do around here. But for 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.480 Ahmad Aubrey's murderers, those are the guys that jumped in 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.159 the truck and chased him down the street. He was 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.520 jogging in and they shot him dead in the street, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.960 and then they went to jail and then he got convicted. 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:18.520 Minneapolis suburb is where that happened, not Michigan. That's what 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.320 I meant the young man's name was Daunte Wright. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.239 That's right. So Kim Potter is the one that if 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.840 you remember the video, she shouted Taser, Taser, Taser, pulls 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.159 out her guns gun and shoots him in the car 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.639 as he was trying to get away. Right, So I 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.240 think she got off after everything's said and done, she 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.960 might have been in prison for maybe like six months 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:42.240 or so. She might be out now, you know what 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:46.680 I mean. So they kind of gave her a reduced 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.920 sentence and then time served in two years. Man, right, 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.719 But there there's something else there where. She got like 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.000 another six months off. So maybe she's not out yet, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.560 but she's she can see the light of the Meanwhile, 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.639 Dante Wright, we'll never see the light of dig And 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.040 so we had that conversation. This year spent a heavy year. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.880 We did talk about in March. Ryan Kugler, for those 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.720 who don't know, he's the person who directed the Black 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.600 Panther movies Wakonda Forever and the Original Black Panther, and 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.879 he was detained at the bank for taking out a 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.720 cash withdrawal, and we used that episode to talk about 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.800 how far prejudice can go because it is possible for 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.639 black people to prejudge black people as well because the 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.000 bank he went into, the teller was black, the bank 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:38.960 manager was black. And then they called the police on 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.920 him for taking out a cash withdrawal for twenty thousand 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.159 dollars and he said he wanted it. He wanted to 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:46.960 be discreet because he didn't want anyone to know. So 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.760 he handed a note and they treated it like it 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:51.400 was a robbery. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.399 He handled a note and then provided ID. Yeah, and 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.000 then provided his bank card and then provided his pin code. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.640 I think that that part of that has to be 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.080 included because anybody can here he handed a no. 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.000 Well, of course they were scared. He gave them a note. Yeah, 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.440 he didn't identified himself, gave his bank card and his. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.320 Pen number, and of course the money was in an 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.200 account that had the money in it that was his. Yeah, 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.560 he still got the police called on, right, and then 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.000 still detained by those police. 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.520 Sure. Sure, So we had to have that conversation. We 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.720 really had to again peel back the banking while black 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:30.120 because that incident, while there were black people working at 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:36.119 that branch, h that's very commonplace. And the remainder of 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.720 the stories that we discussed on the show, everyone else 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:44.000 was these were white tellers, white branch managers, or hispanic 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.960 or whatever the case is. In any case, walking into 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:52.480 a bank while being black, it's more likely that you 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.000 would be profiled. And so we had this conversation and 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.040 don't you dare to be black and rich? And it's 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.359 a weird thing. You, Yeah, it's like it's hard for 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.040 people to really conceive of that being true. You must 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.280 be a thief, you must have stolen something, you must 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:12.520 be doing something illegal. And we try to be fair 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.560 on this show because we recognize that no one is 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:22.840 born prejudiced. You're taught prejudices based on stereotypes that society 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.880 reinforces all around you. And so again, black people can 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.240 be prejudiced against black people the same as anyone else. 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.600 But if we don't talk about it here, then we 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:37.240 don't do our part to try to influence folks to 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.359 think critically about their prejudices and to challenge themselves. And 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:43.240 if you're listening to our voices, you know on this 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.280 show in March and on today's show, this is kind 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.040 of our aim. In April, we spent some time talking 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:56.159 about Will Smith and Chris Rock. That was something that 0:21:56.200 --> 0:22:01.720 we had to process. We the Black delegations that that 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.320 was not an easy thing for us to process either. Yeah, 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.159 we had to process it differently for us because again 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.159 I think I said it best, it's like an uncle 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:12.840 getting in a fight with you know, your uncle, your 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.840 other uncle, and it just felt like kind of so 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.760 we had to we had to sit with that one. 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.760 We also in April talked about how black people were 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:27.119 being overcharged for housing, and then a separate episode we 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:31.720 talked about how Wells Fargo was sued for discriminatory loan practices, 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.240 so you know, black people in banking, and I don't 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.080 know if these things were in conjunction, but no, no, there 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.440 was two separate episodes. What I'm saying this next point. 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:43.359 We also talked about black people's homes being undervalued because 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.919 the owners were black, right, so charged more when you 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.119 buy it, and then it's valued as less because you 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:50.919 own it. Right now, I think a black couple had 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.360 a white couple of stage the two episodes about that, 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:59.280 and their value increased substantially. So so yeah, just to 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.040 an interesting year. And you know, if I look back, 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:07.560 if I'm honest, I'm like, kind of this is like, 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.320 this is crazy that we get to do a show. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.720 We have you listening to us, we have supporters around 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.360 the whole country, and we get to talk about these 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.880 things that really matter. That these topics almost never come 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:24.439 up in your normal life. I know that because you 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.280 know many of our listeners share that I would never 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.320 know these things. But this is very true and it's 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.480 our reality. And then in May we asked a very 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.840 important question that has come up many times on the 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.000 show since then, but we asked do police make you safer? 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.840 And another impossible question to answer because we have no 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:50.960 data to the contrary. We can't because we've always had police, right, 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.639 we don't know how to compare what it would be 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:54.760 like if we didn't. 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:59.439 But we did on this one episode. We did start 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:03.680 off by asking about an increase in officers. We didn't 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.200 go from zero to one hundred, but we had, let's 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.480 say fifty to one hundred, so we an increase in 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:13.439 officers and a few cities around the country, and those 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.280 increased that increased police presence failed to make a significant 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:21.720