1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. The nie Ki, of course, 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: already at a record high after that historic landslide victory 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: by Prime Minister Takaichi and her party. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Japanese stocks are on a tear this week. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: As has welcome the resounding election win for promiss Sanai Takaichi, 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: the LdB winning a standalone super majority, positioning her. 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Japanese equities had searched like fresh record highs on Monday. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: Semiconductor stocks are doing really well. Defense related stocks are 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: doing really well. 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Sakura Murakami covers Japanese politics for Bloomberg out of Tokyo. 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: She says the country stocks have gotten a big lift 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: from Japanese Prime Minister Sanai Takeiichi's historic election win this 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: past weekend. 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure anyone was really expecting this level of 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: a landslide. Three hundred and sixteen seats gained only by 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: the Liberal Democratic Party. That's the most seats ever for 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: the LDP since is founding in nineteen six. 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: And that landslide victory came after Takichi made a big gamble. 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: She came into power four months ago with the razor 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: thin majority in parliament, but she wanted a mandate for 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: a combination of conservative social policies and populist big spending pledges. 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: So she called a snap election. 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I think everyone was expecting the LDP and Takeichi to win, 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: but not to this extent. 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Takeiichi's win gives her ruling party an outright majority in 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: Japan's lower house. 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: She'll be able to kind of push through a lot 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: of the policies that she wants to do. She's pushed 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: forward this idea of Japan being strong and assertive on 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the global scene, whether that's economically or militarily or diplomatically. 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: It's a historic win. But while she has the pace 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: people behind her, the bond market remains skeptical of her 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: plans for the economy. 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: The single biggest challenge that Takaichi faces now is delivering 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: on her campaign promises. That's crucial both for markets and 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: in terms of regaining investors' trust, and also politically. You know, 37 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: if she's seen as weak or enabled to deliver on 38 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: her promises, that's going to undermine her political strength as well. 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: So it all comes down to the execution. 40 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: This is the big take Asia from Bloomberg News. I'm Wanha. 41 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: Every week we take you inside some of the world's 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: biggest and most powerful economies and the markets, tycoons, and 43 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: businesses that drive this ever shifting region. Today, on the 44 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: show Unpacking Sinai Takeiichi's landslide victory, what her vision for 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: a more assertive free spending drip looks like, and can 46 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: she sell anxious global investors on her bold but risky 47 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: economic plans. When Sinnai Takeiichi called a nap election last month, 48 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: she was governing from a very shaky position. Her Liberal 49 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: Democratic Party combined with its junior coalition partner, we're struggling 50 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: to get by with a slim majority in parliament. 51 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: That means she had to do a lot of haggling, 52 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: a lot of negotiating, a lot of discussing with smaller 53 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: parties that had leverage over her because she didn't have 54 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: a majority. She did have this razor thin majority in 55 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: the lower House, which is more powerful, but it was 56 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty three seats out of four hundred 57 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and sixty five. If one person couldn't make it to vote, 58 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: she would have lost the majority. So that was how 59 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: close she was. And to consolidate her power to really 60 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: push through the policies that she wanted to see implement 61 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: that was a gambit that's obviously paid off. 62 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: Now Takeichi's viewed generally as a right wing conservative, but 63 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: obviously the election results show that she has such massive, 64 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: widespread public support. What's behind her broad appeal. 65 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: When I was at her rally, I noticed that she 66 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: would go into her politicies, and the crowd responded the 67 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: most when she talked about a strong independent Japan, and 68 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: that wasn't strong and independent in terms of just the 69 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: military and defense, but in terms of the economy. So 70 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: when she talked about rare earth and not being so 71 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: reliant on certain countries for rare earth supplies, she got 72 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: like big cheers basically. So I think that goes to 73 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: show that people have been concerned about the economy and 74 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: they see the strength that she's portraying and that she's 75 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: trying to present to the public as a way forward, 76 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: something they can be hopeful about for the future. 77 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: And she's hugely charismatic, especially with her personal story, right. 78 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: She's got a great personal story. She rides motorbikes, heavy 79 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: metal drummer. She's a drummer. When she was in university, 80 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, she would rock up to her classes with 81 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: pink hair. She had long hair had pink streaks in them. 82 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: She's such a character and you can see that in 83 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: the way that she presents herself on social media as well. 84 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: So one of the moments that went viral for her 85 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: was this big hug that she gave Italian Prime Minister 86 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Georgia Maloney at the g twenty last year. It was 87 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: the first time that they met, but their eyes locked 88 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: across the room and they just like jumped into this 89 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: huge embrace, which kind of went viral. And it's very 90 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: unusual for a Japanese leader, I think, to have that 91 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: level of closeness immediately and immediate rapport with a foreign leader. 92 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Now, Taki she styles herself as a conservative, but some 93 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: say her economic strategy isn't what you expect of a conservative. 94 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: Talk is through her political branding and what her particular 95 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: vision of conservatism looks like. 96 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: So she kind of takes all those boxes of like 97 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: a standard Japanese right wing politician. She wants to see 98 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: a strong Japanese military, she wants to take a bold 99 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: stance on China. So those are classically politically conservative issues 100 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: in Japan. Economically, though, I think Takaichi wants to see 101 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: a kind of rejuvenation of the Japanese economy, and that 102 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: also includes letting companies fail, which was not really something 103 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: politicians wanted to do previously, especially in terms of winning 104 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: votes and having the political strength that comes from these 105 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: sorts of companies that aren't doing too well but are 106 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: being propped up by subsidies from the government. And I 107 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: think the focus is on productivity. Where can Japan's economy 108 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: be more productive and what areas is the Japanese government 109 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: subsidizing that isn't actually as productive as it could be. 110 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: And that is very much focused on investing in the 111 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: areas that need investment, but then slimming down the government 112 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: and being very efficient in governmance in general. 113 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: Now Techichi and her Liberal Democratic Party have secured a 114 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: super majority in the important lower house. What does this 115 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 2: mean for her politically and the party's ability to push 116 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: through its agenda. 117 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Now this is huge for Takeichi because it gives her 118 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: such a huge mandate. The ruling coalition still doesn't have 119 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: a majority in the upper house, so there is that roadblock. 120 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: But if you have a supermajority in the lower house, 121 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: the lower house is more powerful than the upper house, 122 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: and it can overrule the Upper House, so that just 123 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: gives her so much of a free hand to push 124 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: through the policies that she wants to see implemented. Overall, 125 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: it's about spending more investing in the areas that need 126 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: investment and seeing Japan's economy grow again, investing in an 127 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: economy for Japan that actually sees more growth, like semiconductor 128 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: related sectors and defense companies. She's talked so many times 129 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail about this island off the coast 130 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: of Japan, Minami Tadishima, that has apparently has rare earth, 131 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: and she's talking about digging up these rare earths to 132 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: ensure that Japan isn't so reliant on other countries or 133 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: a single country for its supply chain of rare earth. 134 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: So this is kind of like the idea, the vision 135 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: that she has for Japan. 136 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: Voters love Prime Minister Sanaitakiichi and overwhelmingly back her vision 137 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: for more assertive but the bond market is spooked by 138 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: her fiscal policies, why her spending plan could be risky, 139 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: and what her win means for Japan's geopolitical ties. That's 140 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: after the break Japan has grappled with economic stagnation for decades, 141 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: but inflation kicked in during the pandemic bloomberg. Zakura Murakami 142 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: says that it's now one of the most pressing issues 143 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: facing the government. 144 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: So Japan in the past thirty years hasn't seen prices 145 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: rise at all. That's a whole generation of people who 146 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: have not experienced inflation. But now in the past couple 147 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: of years or so, we're actually seeing inflation in earnest. 148 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: One of the most emblematic changes is the price of rice. 149 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: It doubled in about a year, and rice is basically 150 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: like the eggs or you know, the bread of the 151 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: average household in Japan. It's the staple grain. Before you know, 152 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: the price of everything has just gone up, and this 153 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: is really weighing on the average Japanese household. 154 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: To help families struggling with inflation, Takeiichi promised a two 155 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: year cut to the sales tax on food and non 156 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: alcoholic drinks, but it was a controversial pledge. The move 157 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: would cost about thirty two billion dollars in lost revenue annually. 158 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: That's about six percent of what the country collects in taxes. 159 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: Sakura says that investors were already uneasy about Japan's massive 160 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: public debt, the highest among developed nations, and they're now 161 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: rattled about a big spending plan with no clear way 162 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: to pay for it. 163 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: When she started her campaign, she put the sales tax 164 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: cut on food front and center. Through the campaign trail, 165 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: she's really toned down that messaging. She barely mentioned the 166 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: sales tax cut in her rallies in her speeches while 167 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: she was on the campaign trail. I think that goes 168 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: to show the impact the market jitters. Since the election win, 169 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: she's said, well, continue to discuss this. Takayji herself has 170 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: also said, as has the Finance Minister Katayama, that the 171 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: planned tax cut wouldn't require additional bond issuance. They've kind 172 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: of said, we are going to spend aggressively, but an 173 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: important part of that is also spending responsibly. I think 174 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: it's difficult for Takaichu to back out of it at 175 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: this point, but you know, it is really about showing 176 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: that this is doable, this is feasible, that there is 177 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: alternative funding, and we haven't seen that yet. 178 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be important since we obviously in 179 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: the last few weeks we saw meltdown in Japan's bond market, right, 180 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: is the election results you think like to calm nerves 181 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: in the long run or does it make investors even 182 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: more jittery now that she has public support to push 183 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: her spending policy through. 184 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: So far there's relative calm in the currency. Also in 185 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: the fixed income markets, we're not seeing the kind of 186 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: meltdown that we saw with Liz Trust when she announced 187 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: her kind of physical plans. So I do think the 188 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: aggressive spending part, the sort of tax cut part, tends 189 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: to get more play, but she is really trying to 190 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: emphasize the responsible part of it. She has been consistent 191 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: about saying the plan tax cut won't require additional bond issuance, 192 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: and that's kind of part of the fiscal finance that 193 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: she's trying to portray as well. 194 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: So Gurda, I do want to pivot to geopolitics. Takichi 195 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: made headlines shortly after becoming Prime Minister with controversial remarks 196 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: that suggested Japan could intervene militarily if chinad tag Taiwan. 197 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Of course, that's stoked tensions with China that are still 198 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: simmering today. With her win at the polls, are we 199 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: likely to see Taki she really doubled down on that 200 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: Hawker stance on China. 201 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, part of her appeal has been this kind of 202 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: strong stand she's taken with China and just in general, 203 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: she's like very straightforward, and I think this kind of 204 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: unwillingness to back down under the economic pressure of China 205 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: after her comments on Taiwan really appealed to the public. 206 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Polls showed that the general public was kind of generally 207 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: in favor with Takaichi's comments and also with how Takaichi 208 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: handled the issue that being said. You know, as I 209 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, she's a conventional right wing politician. I think 210 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: one of the things, for example, that she would want 211 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: to do personally is visit Yeskuni Shrine, which is a 212 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: very controversial shrine that honors the Japanese warted, but also 213 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: war criminals passed. Visits to the shrine by Koizumi by 214 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Abe have really angered, for example, China and South Korea. 215 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: When she was asked about a potential visit to Yescony 216 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: yesterday after the election, she said she wanted to create 217 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: an environment where all countries and all people can honor 218 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: the war dead in the way that they want to. 219 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: Now, we saw President Donald Trump indoors Takeichi before the election, 220 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: and he since congratulated her on the win. US Treasury 221 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: Secretary Scott Bessont also wighed in. 222 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: Boy, has she had a big victory today President Trump 223 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: in doorst last week. She is a great ally, great 224 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: relationship with a president. And when Japan is strong, the 225 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: US is strong in Asia. 226 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: I wonder what we can expect out of these warmer 227 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: US Japan ties. Japan is a US ally sitting right 228 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: next to the biggest US rival, China? How is she 229 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: going to navigate being sandwiched between the to global rivals 230 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: on the world stage. 231 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: So she's very much sort of leaning into her personal 232 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: relationship with Trump. They have this natural rapport. She'll be 233 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: going to the US in March ahead of Trump's visit 234 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: to China. Trump has always grumbled about the US having 235 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: to defend other countries and other countries not really paying 236 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: up for their own defense, and Takaiji is aligned on 237 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: that thinking. She wants Japan's military to be stronger. She 238 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: wants Japan to be capable of defending itself. So when 239 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: she goes to the US in March, that'll probably be 240 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: a topic of discussion between them. Takaichi already has plans 241 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: to revise Japan's defense spending and Japan's defense policy as well. 242 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: On the other hand, China's not going to be too 243 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: happy about that, but that also plays into Takaichi's sort 244 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: of policy with China. In the four months that she's 245 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: been in office, she's already taken quite a strong stand 246 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: against China. She's been very firm about holding her ground 247 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: and I think we'll see more of that during her term. 248 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: And obviously, Japan's economy is very reliant on China's economy 249 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: as well. There's a very strong trade relationship there, but 250 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: Takichi maybe looking into decoupling and making Japan more assertive 251 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: and independent in that respect as well. 252 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: With this huge mandate that Takichi and the party is won, 253 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: she has the power to move her agenda forward. How 254 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: do you think that changes her political calculus going forward. 255 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, she's been in office for four months and 256 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the budget that she has passed so far was the 257 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: budget from a previous prime minister. So this is the 258 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: first time that she can actually do things her own 259 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: way and pull together a budget that she wants to 260 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: push through. And obviously, with the huge mandate, from the public. 261 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: She'll be able to push it through Parliament as well. 262 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: So far, given that her hands were tied politically, given 263 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: that she didn't have a clear majority, she didn't quite 264 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: have the space to maneuver in the way that she 265 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: wanted to. But now she has a clear mandate. The 266 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: question now is how effectively can she actually implement the 267 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: policies that she's pledged so far. It's been some talk 268 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: for some time, but will we actually see these policies 269 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: being realized and actually implemented. 270 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: It sounds like this is actually where the hard work 271 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: comes in. 272 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Right after this, Yeah, right after the Big Wing exactly. Yeah. 273 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: This is The Big Take Asia from Bloomberg News. I'm wanha. 274 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: To get more from The Big Take and unlimited access 275 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: to all of Bloomberg dot Com, subscribe today at Bloomberg 276 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast Offer. 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