Speaker 1: Up next, Out Loud with Janno called part of the
Speaker 1: beginning with Schorn Welcome back to Outllow with Gianno Calledwell,
Speaker 1: my guest is Madison Carthorne, a Representative elect and the
Speaker 1: upcoming Congress and a rising star in the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: We discuss his future in Congress, what he thinks is
Speaker 1: the best path for for the GOP, and what advice
Speaker 1: you give to those who want to run for office.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Welcome to the show, Congressman elect Medisine Cawthorne.
Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce your last time? Carthorne? Gianno,
Speaker 1: that's how you pronounce it. But man, it's weird not
Speaker 1: seeing you with the Fox News blog more than the ankle. Well,
Speaker 1: welcome to Allow with Gianno called one and I think
Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing that right. It's not that often that we
Speaker 1: get super inspiring young leaders of the generation of the
Speaker 1: concern pervative movement who happens to be the youngest member
Speaker 1: elect or congressman elect in modern history. So thank you
Speaker 1: for coming. And I'm sure you get plenty of platitudes
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, but it's certainly an
Speaker 1: honor to be on with you. Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta say, man, it's great to be on with you.
Speaker 1: I think you're a real h just a real culture changer, because,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there's the policy battle that
Speaker 1: needs to be fought to make sure that there's a
Speaker 1: this radical wish list of the Democrats have been trying
Speaker 1: to push through for the last few few decades doesn't
Speaker 1: come to fruition. But furthermore, I think the more important
Speaker 1: battle right now is the culture battle because many people,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've seen this in our generation. You know,
Speaker 1: most people have conservative belief but as soon as you
Speaker 1: label something Republican or Democrats, they freak out and they
Speaker 1: go very, very far left. And so thank you for
Speaker 1: finding that cultural war. You know, you're absolutely correct. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, it's been a world win.
Speaker 1: You won an election. A lot of people thought you
Speaker 1: weren't going to win, but you you push back and
Speaker 1: you kept moving forward and certainly you prevailed. So now
Speaker 1: you've done orientation for Congress and you just got back
Speaker 1: from that. How are you doing these days? Man? I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, my life could not be much better.
Speaker 1: You know, I got my wedding coming up this spring.
Speaker 1: I'm squaring in on January three. Uh So, just two
Speaker 1: major major things that are going on in my life
Speaker 1: coming up. And you know, I get to go Christmas
Speaker 1: cheer years everywhere. Everybody's happy, my my family is healthy.
Speaker 1: Couldn't ask for much more, I gotta tell you, Gianna,
Speaker 1: I did gain a lot of weight on a lot
Speaker 1: of barbecues. Go aside from that, I'm doing great. Barbecue
Speaker 1: isn't a bad thing in my view, Manfred, I appreciate
Speaker 1: that that kind of weight is great. So for the
Speaker 1: viewers who may not be familiar with you, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's probably like one or two, but everybody else
Speaker 1: knows who you are because you're legitimately a rock star.
Speaker 1: And we thank you for joining us today. Can you
Speaker 1: walk us through your upbringing and what led you to
Speaker 1: pursue a career in politics. Absolutely so. I found out
Speaker 1: pretty young that I was an abnormality because I was
Speaker 1: raising the household where Paul Ticks were talked about very
Speaker 1: often around the dinner table. You know, it was very
Speaker 1: much probably you know, if it wasn't every night of
Speaker 1: the week, it is probably five nights of the week.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about the current events that were
Speaker 1: going on and my parents wanted to get our opinions.
Speaker 1: They weren't trying to sway us one way or the other.
Speaker 1: But you know, they'd answer our questions that we have.
Speaker 1: And I always say I was raised on push up
Speaker 1: some proverbs, so real good Southern discipline. But you also
Speaker 1: have the good word. You got some wisdom portant be
Speaker 1: important to your life from great mentors, great parents. I
Speaker 1: got one of the best older brothers you could ever have,
Speaker 1: And you know, all of those things kind of formed
Speaker 1: in me, this this person who refused to give up,
Speaker 1: someone who always wanted to push on and fight hard.
Speaker 1: Little did I know that was gonna serve me very well,
Speaker 1: because when I was eighteen years old, I stepped into
Speaker 1: a car, and I did not know that was gonna
Speaker 1: be the last step I ever took. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: a road trip. One of my best friends. I got
Speaker 1: a pool right scholarship to NC State. I've been just
Speaker 1: been nominated by my congressmen to go to the Naval Academy.
Speaker 1: Wait and hear word back from them, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I'm on this road trip. I'm taking a nap in
Speaker 1: the passenger seat and or whatever reason. In the middle
Speaker 1: of the day, my best friend fell asleep behind the wheel.
Speaker 1: We run headlong into a concrete barricade and car goes
Speaker 1: up in flames. My my buddy was able to get out,
Speaker 1: help get me out. But you know, the next thing
Speaker 1: I know, I wake up in a hospital. I think
Speaker 1: my legs, my left arms paralyzed. I can't even speak
Speaker 1: severe internal believing. But in the ICU for months and
Speaker 1: all of that, really I didn't realize that, you know,
Speaker 1: all of the time that I had been growing up.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm very a devout Christians, so I had
Speaker 1: topic a lot saying, you know, God, why did you
Speaker 1: give me these attributes of a warrior when really you
Speaker 1: know I exist in an era of peace and a prosperity.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like these actually would serve me
Speaker 1: well if I was born and you know the nineteen
Speaker 1: thirties fight in World War Two. But you know, this
Speaker 1: is the greatest era of peace and prosperity of the
Speaker 1: world has ever known. But little did I know that
Speaker 1: those actually serve me very well going through that ordeal,
Speaker 1: because you know, Jis, I'm sure you can imagine it
Speaker 1: taught me one perseverance. You know, no matter what you
Speaker 1: face in life, you've got to stick keep your head now,
Speaker 1: keep moving through it. Because just like we know, the
Speaker 1: good days don't laugh, the bad days don't laugh either,
Speaker 1: And you can turn an obstacle to a steppings film.
Speaker 1: But really, the thing that my accident really taught me
Speaker 1: because it was a recovery of over a year that
Speaker 1: I was in the hospital, but it taught me. It
Speaker 1: taught me an interesting lesson because after that year was out,
Speaker 1: my very first outing out of that hospital was to
Speaker 1: a professional baseball game with my older brother. You know,
Speaker 1: he kind of but kind of jail broke me out
Speaker 1: of that hospital, got me in the car, and we
Speaker 1: went to the ball game. We lost, and we went
Speaker 1: down seeing the Atlanta Raids. But man, when I rolled
Speaker 1: into that stadium, just in this huge crowd of people,
Speaker 1: although you'd never see that now, dear in COVID, which
Speaker 1: is just I can't imagine what that's like. You. I
Speaker 1: rolled into that that crowd, and I used to be
Speaker 1: six foot three, used to be two two twenty five pounds.
Speaker 1: I had the world on my fingertips, everything I wanted
Speaker 1: I can do, and then you know, I wrote in
Speaker 1: that crowd and I was invisible. Nobody nobody, nobody knew
Speaker 1: who I was. I just I felt like I was
Speaker 1: left behind by society and so interesantly enough this accident,
Speaker 1: which you know obviously teaches you perseverance, strength, stick tuitiveness,
Speaker 1: it also taught me empathy, you know, I know it
Speaker 1: taught me that, you know, we don't all come from
Speaker 1: the exact same background, and that can really affect how
Speaker 1: you outlook on life. Wow. And you know, I say
Speaker 1: wow uh in this moment because I think it's such
Speaker 1: an inspiring story to have come through though that great tragedy,
Speaker 1: if you will, and and really bring about something that's
Speaker 1: so positive and optimistic, and certainly you being a believer,
Speaker 1: I think it helps with that. And I'm glad you
Speaker 1: mentioned proverbs. I'm a big fan of Proverbs Proverbs three,
Speaker 1: four or five and six. Stressing a log with all
Speaker 1: your heartening not to your own understanding, and all your
Speaker 1: ways acknowledge him, and he share the direct your path.
Speaker 1: So that's that's amazing. Now I want to know how
Speaker 1: did this accident inform your approach to politics? You know what,
Speaker 1: I would say that what it did, it didn't really
Speaker 1: change any of my beliefs when it comes to politics.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we just had this this conversation about empathy,
Speaker 1: and it made me realize that a lot of the
Speaker 1: ways that the conservative leaders for really the past two
Speaker 1: or three decades have been messaging our beliefs aren't saying
Speaker 1: them in a way that makes other people understand them
Speaker 1: and feel good about them. You know, you can look
Speaker 1: at somebody and say, you know, people have two equals four.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you if you give the backstory
Speaker 1: to why these twos came together, if you you explain
Speaker 1: to them, you know, the relationship that was built, it
Speaker 1: makes people buy into what you believe. You know. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we live in a culture where you know, everybody like
Speaker 1: the underdog story. Everybody likes to believe in something. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people, and you know,
Speaker 1: the millennial and the gen Z generation, unfortunately they want
Speaker 1: to vote for what feels good, whereas Republicans and a
Speaker 1: lot of our our predecessors that we now stand on
Speaker 1: the shoulders of they voted for what actually did good.
Speaker 1: But so I think we need to find a way
Speaker 1: to have a marriage of the two to where we
Speaker 1: can message our beliefs to say, hey, we believe that
Speaker 1: we need to have a limited government and here's why.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's that's something that's really been
Speaker 1: appealing about this kind of movement for these young Republicans
Speaker 1: that are coming out, people like you, people like you know,
Speaker 1: Paulina Roginal Handley. So it really incredible young people who
Speaker 1: are stepping up to take on this mantle of conservative messaging.
Speaker 1: I think Dan Crenshaw does a good job with it.
Speaker 1: And so I think I would say that's the way
Speaker 1: that my accident reinformed my my my politics the most. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: you've been talking quite a bit about being the leader,
Speaker 1: one of the leaders of the young generation and saying
Speaker 1: that you think that things need to change in terms
Speaker 1: of the GOP, and I'm just intrigued to know what
Speaker 1: lessons do you take from the aftermath of the election
Speaker 1: in terms of the direction you'd like to see the
Speaker 1: Republican Party and Conservatives in general pursue. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: the biggest one is I believe a lot of our
Speaker 1: elected officials on the Republican side. Uh. And you know,
Speaker 1: obviously there's a major problem of these career politicians existing
Speaker 1: on the left. But the biggest way I'd want to
Speaker 1: change Republican politics is to get rid of these career politicians,
Speaker 1: for people to go to Washington, d c. And practice
Speaker 1: what they preach. You say you want to balance budget,
Speaker 1: then stop spending my tax dollars so frivolously. You'd say
Speaker 1: that you want to have you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: be the party of values, be the party of convictions.
Speaker 1: Then define what you believe in and actually stand up for.
Speaker 1: Don't just don't just kind of cower down to the
Speaker 1: mob and concede and capitulate every chance to get you know,
Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump did a really great job of
Speaker 1: messaging the people that hey, the Republican Party is gonna
Speaker 1: stand up and fight. But unfortunately the term GOP and
Speaker 1: the term Republican, it's been altered its true meaning. And
Speaker 1: when when people think about that, they think of people
Speaker 1: who speak out two sides of their mouth. And so
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing that we need to change,
Speaker 1: is just be a party that practices what we preach.
Speaker 1: If we really want a limited government, let's actually push
Speaker 1: for a limited government. Can you think of an example
Speaker 1: as to something maybe within the party. And I'm not
Speaker 1: here to say, like, okay, things in the GOP are
Speaker 1: just so horrendous that everything needs to change, not at all.
Speaker 1: But from your point of view, what would you advocate
Speaker 1: that needs to be changed the Republicans aren't doing in
Speaker 1: the right right part of your opinion, Well, you say
Speaker 1: you want to limit a government. I'm talking. Can you
Speaker 1: know to the GOP at large you say you weren't
Speaker 1: a limited government, but yet for you know, the past
Speaker 1: few decades, you want to get involved in every single
Speaker 1: social issue that comes up. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people to find the abortion as a social issue. I
Speaker 1: don't define that as as a social issue whatsoever. I
Speaker 1: think that's a matter of life and death, and so
Speaker 1: I think that's something that the government should be involved in.
Speaker 1: But aside from that, let's truly be the party of
Speaker 1: freedom if it and this kind of leans a little
Speaker 1: bit towards kind of more of a rampat Republican, but
Speaker 1: if what somebody is doing doesn't directly hurt somebody else,
Speaker 1: then get the hands off. Let's let's pull the federal
Speaker 1: government out of this, and so truly be the party
Speaker 1: of freedom, the one that people say, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're not gonna spend your tax dollars previously, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna get involved with your life. We're gonna give you
Speaker 1: extreme security, and we're gonna let you live your life
Speaker 1: on your own terms. And I think that's the way
Speaker 1: that the GOP should be messaging. I think it's the
Speaker 1: way the GOP should be thought of. It should be
Speaker 1: the party of freedom, not the party of no. Okay.
Speaker 1: And and to that point you just mentioned in terms
Speaker 1: of if you're doing something that's not hurting someone else,
Speaker 1: leave it be. Are you for decriminalizing cannabis? Absolutely, I am,
Speaker 1: you know, I we just uh, you know, Matt Gates
Speaker 1: actually stood up and spoke on behalf of a Democratic
Speaker 1: bill trying to get it through Congress, which yes, indeed, yes, indeed. Now,
Speaker 1: the one thing I didn't like about that is that
Speaker 1: it happened to involve some pieces that that created new taxes.
Speaker 1: But aside from that, you know, I think we do
Speaker 1: need to decriminalize cannabis. Okay. Have you ever had any
Speaker 1: experience with cannabis? If I may ask, you know what
Speaker 1: I did? Yeah, it was over in Amsterdam where it
Speaker 1: was legal, you know, but I figured at one point
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to have an opinion on this.
Speaker 1: I figure I give it a shot. But it was
Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you I've never heard of somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, getting high on cannabis or using it for
Speaker 1: medical reasons and then wanting to go beat your wife.
Speaker 1: Uh contrarly though. You hear about alcohol abuse all the time,
Speaker 1: and then that leads to you know, angry drunks at
Speaker 1: least these people who make terrible decisions. And so you know,
Speaker 1: if we're going to have alcohol I legal in this country,
Speaker 1: I think marijuana might as welcome to I agree. I
Speaker 1: want to pick up from there, but here's the word
Speaker 1: for my sponsor, don't go away. I think that you're
Speaker 1: absolutely correct, and I come from a family this battle
Speaker 1: dediction and drug use and and those kind of things.
Speaker 1: But I do think that cannabis should be decriminalized. So
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. Now you've argued in
Speaker 1: favor of several reforms on how Congress operates, including imposing
Speaker 1: term limits on members of Congress. Can you walk us
Speaker 1: through what issues are more important to you as you
Speaker 1: prepare to take office and why you think that's so vital? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's the kind of generational threats
Speaker 1: that Americans face. Uh, you know, in Word War two,
Speaker 1: it was the Nazis in Germany, which fortunately we're able
Speaker 1: to overcome that dead, terrible evil. For the next generation,
Speaker 1: it was the Russians and the threat that they posed,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you know, I was in a
Speaker 1: millennial generation, it was the Taliban, it was Islamic extremist militants.
Speaker 1: But really I feel like the really large general sational
Speaker 1: threat that my generation is gonna face and for the
Speaker 1: next you know, probably forty sixty years, it's gonna be China.
Speaker 1: And so one of the number one things I want
Speaker 1: to focus on is how we conduct our foreign policy
Speaker 1: because you know, if we continue to offshore our manufacturing
Speaker 1: jobs or textile meals, you know, are critical infrastructure components,
Speaker 1: whether that's our telecoms, satellites, or whether that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's pharmaceutical drugs. I find out until when the coronavirus hit,
Speaker 1: when my heart medicaged him with late getting to my house,
Speaker 1: that my pharmaceuticals are are created in China and then
Speaker 1: they're shipped award. I just feel like that's sharpening the
Speaker 1: store that could one baby used to kill us, you know,
Speaker 1: were we were attacked with the virus, Imagine if we
Speaker 1: were attacked with the real war, they would have a
Speaker 1: night do our throats. So one of my number one
Speaker 1: priorities is going to be standing up for China on
Speaker 1: behalf of the United States. I think that is had
Speaker 1: had off sincerely because I think that China has become
Speaker 1: much more of an issue than people realize. And everyone
Speaker 1: knows that China wanted to have an echo economic superiority
Speaker 1: to the United States, and governors and local elected officials
Speaker 1: all over the country has helped propel that by virtue
Speaker 1: of the closing down the economy, continuously putting small businesses
Speaker 1: out of business. So I applaud that, and I I
Speaker 1: hope you succeed on that front. I think that would
Speaker 1: be amazing because they absolutely need to be stood up to.
Speaker 1: Now do you think Eric Swalwell, someone who's um had
Speaker 1: a close relationship with the Chinese spy, do you think
Speaker 1: he should be taking off the Intel Committee? Is that
Speaker 1: like one of those things that the Party and geoo. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that Nancy Flogal still has him on
Speaker 1: the Intelligence Committee. It's absolutely mind boggling. We don't know
Speaker 1: how how much information he shared with this with this
Speaker 1: female spy. We don't know if he's if he's personally
Speaker 1: has blackmail against him to where he can act on
Speaker 1: behalf of the Chinese Communist Party. Uh. And you know,
Speaker 1: one I was surprised to find out that he actually
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend. Uh to find out this on our
Speaker 1: Intel Committee, you know, trapesing around with a Chinese operator.
Speaker 1: You know that that's one of the largest security risk
Speaker 1: I could ever imagine. You know, the the Intel Committee,
Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, meets thirty feet
Speaker 1: below ground in an air gap bunker. The only way
Speaker 1: you can know what happens inside of that committee room
Speaker 1: is if you hear it from a committee member. Well,
Speaker 1: the Chinese get his party and said, okay, well, you
Speaker 1: know what, turns out one of our spies is dating
Speaker 1: one of those congressmen. Uh. And now we have Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi's just sitting on our hands saying, you know what, Eric,
Speaker 1: you stay on that Intel Committee. That is a national
Speaker 1: security threat. Yeah, I would agree with that. Now I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing what's gonna happen with that
Speaker 1: because Democrats, especially someone like Swawell, who's four years of investigation,
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and flat outlawes. Now he's getting a piece
Speaker 1: of his own medicine, and he honestly should say, hey,
Speaker 1: considering what's going on, I'm gonna come off that committee
Speaker 1: just so there can be an investigation and clear me
Speaker 1: if he's innocent and go from there. I think that
Speaker 1: would be the right thing to do, especially all the
Speaker 1: things he said about Donald Trump for the last four years.
Speaker 1: That would be the patriotic thing to do, That would
Speaker 1: be the mature thing to do. But you know, that's
Speaker 1: not something that we normally associate with our elected politicians.
Speaker 1: Hopefully the generation of conservatives that are coming up can
Speaker 1: change that perception of people's minds. Yeah, I agree with that. Now,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. You face scrutiny among
Speaker 1: many in the media for what they deemed to be
Speaker 1: a white supremacist view. I know people you've talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot um and it was with regards to
Speaker 1: an Instagram post you made about visiting the Eagles Nest,
Speaker 1: a Nazi compound in Germany. What's your response to these
Speaker 1: kinds of allegations? So my number one responses, You know, Ji,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you watch the HBO theories Band
Speaker 1: of Brothers, it's all about easy company fighting World War
Speaker 1: two and kind of followed, you know Captain Rivers as
Speaker 1: he goes through, you're really just entire war. It's an
Speaker 1: incredible series. Encourage all you watch it. But you know,
Speaker 1: I come from a long line of people who've served
Speaker 1: in the military. So that was a show we commonly
Speaker 1: walked in our house every few years. And the way
Speaker 1: that show ends, it's easy company still brating their victories,
Speaker 1: and it's an iconic photo of them smoking cigars, and
Speaker 1: that we're in the humor door of the Nazis at
Speaker 1: the Eagles thatst celebrating and so where they declared victory
Speaker 1: over the Nazis. And so you know when people just
Speaker 1: say that they thought that I was celebrating Nazis and
Speaker 1: going there, that's that's absolutely incorrect. I was there as
Speaker 1: an American speaking English, someone in a wheelchair rolling across
Speaker 1: these these floors, someone that the Nazis would have had
Speaker 1: put to death, celebrating having a good time with my
Speaker 1: older brother. And so you want to tell me that
Speaker 1: that makes me some kind of a Nazi sympathizer, That
Speaker 1: makes me someone who celebrates American dominance in World War Two.
Speaker 1: We've defeat one of the greatest evils the world has
Speaker 1: ever known, and so I think that makes me the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of a Nazi sympathizer. That makes me someone
Speaker 1: who would fight against the Nazis willingly any day. So
Speaker 1: in that case, you were celebrating the fact that America
Speaker 1: one exactly means where we declared victory over them. There
Speaker 1: it's a pretty legendary spot. I'll send you a picture
Speaker 1: that we're all smoking cigars. I'm a huge cigar enthusiast.
Speaker 1: That's something I wanted to do myself, but it was.
Speaker 1: It's it's sad that the media can take someone who
Speaker 1: is objectively not racist. Now I'm getting there to a
Speaker 1: viracial young lady, and so my children are going to
Speaker 1: be biracial, So that you're telling me that my future children,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some kind of disdain for it. It's absurd.
Speaker 1: So I believe that our media today, because it's so
Speaker 1: focused on profits and driving up there's clicks so they
Speaker 1: can get more money and please their their their their overlords,
Speaker 1: that has created this this tendency to create sensationalized news
Speaker 1: whether it's true or not, and really damaging to our republic. Well,
Speaker 1: you're a Republican, so therefore you must be a racist.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's the narrative, and it's not
Speaker 1: even for me like I might I might sound like
Speaker 1: I'm joking on that front, but truthfully, I grew up
Speaker 1: on the South Side of Chicago believing that everybody who
Speaker 1: was a Republican was a racist because that's what everyone
Speaker 1: was taught. And then you research the history and you
Speaker 1: find out none of this is true, is all propaganda,
Speaker 1: And then you see Democrats have used this year after year,
Speaker 1: decade after decade as a tool the smere Republicans. So
Speaker 1: I'm sure this won't be your last experience with with that,
Speaker 1: considering what they've been willing to do in other cases.
Speaker 1: So switching gears a little bit. COVID nineteen has obviously
Speaker 1: shut down the country. People have died, a lot of
Speaker 1: people have been sick. What response or what changes would
Speaker 1: you'd like to see in terms of how COVID response
Speaker 1: is being carried out across the country. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: take my hand off to Donald Trump. You know, he
Speaker 1: as someone really walks what he talks, and you know,
Speaker 1: Republicans consistently talk about having deregulation and what we saw
Speaker 1: Operation Warps be this this mission this operation that the
Speaker 1: President had administrated. It was a removal a lot of
Speaker 1: the regulations that are in place, you know, in form
Speaker 1: of the FDA, these three better agencies who rule our lives.
Speaker 1: It was these these regulations that really tie the hands
Speaker 1: of these pharma studental companies from being able to quickly
Speaker 1: produce an antidote to what COVID Night Team was. So
Speaker 1: with operation work speed then being able to get this
Speaker 1: vaccine done in record time. I think it's an absolute
Speaker 1: testament to one that Donald Trump will have the right
Speaker 1: idea of deregulation and two that deregulation is the right
Speaker 1: move in a free market society. Uh. And so I
Speaker 1: think it's being carried out very well. Fortunately. You know what,
Speaker 1: A lot of people want to look at the number
Speaker 1: of cases. That's one. You know, as someone who spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the hospital, I I understand suffering,
Speaker 1: and I feel for people who have to suffer through that.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends who got it themselves.
Speaker 1: But you know what, the number that I am more
Speaker 1: focused on is fatality rate, and that fatality rate has
Speaker 1: stayed consistently below one per cent almost for the entire
Speaker 1: duration of COVID nineteen, not a single person in the
Speaker 1: United States that needed a ventilator went without a ventilator.
Speaker 1: And so I tip my hat to people like you
Speaker 1: must people like Donald Trump who really got this job
Speaker 1: done for Americans all across the countries. Absolutely, I want
Speaker 1: to discuss that further, but let's take a quick break. First,
Speaker 1: stay with us, everyone, And to continue on that note,
Speaker 1: a COVID vaccine is on the horizon. When you advocate
Speaker 1: for his distribution, how do you plan to balance the
Speaker 1: needs of your constituents versus the needs of everyone else?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The needs of everyone else
Speaker 1: is great all but I represent people western North Caroline,
Speaker 1: so I will do whatever I can to make sure
Speaker 1: that they have the better in this day, Okay, and
Speaker 1: and that's that's what we expect. So thank you for that.
Speaker 1: That responds. Now here's an interesting one because I had
Speaker 1: um someone that you know very well. She's a fellow
Speaker 1: North Carolinian and her name is Lord Trump. She was
Speaker 1: she's been on this show, and she discussed, well I
Speaker 1: discussed with her, and we actually ended up breaking news.
Speaker 1: The possibility of running for Senate in your home state
Speaker 1: in two could you, Congressman elect? Could you see yourself
Speaker 1: supporting her if the time were to come. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Lord Trump is incredible. I think she would
Speaker 1: be an incredible senator. I she loves this state. She
Speaker 1: knows the counties, intrigrating. We have a hundred counties in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. She knows every single one of them by names.
Speaker 1: She knows the intricate details of the inner workings of
Speaker 1: each of these counties. I think she'd do a great job.
Speaker 1: My number one guiding principal, although is a number my
Speaker 1: My number one priority in life, in virtue is loyalty.
Speaker 1: There was a good congressman, Mark Walker, who really supported
Speaker 1: me all throughout my primary campaign. And he was really
Speaker 1: backed me and got me through the very vicious primary.
Speaker 1: But I know he is running for senator, and so
Speaker 1: I will be supporting him. But you gotta I will
Speaker 1: tell you my hat is off for Lord Trump and
Speaker 1: I I if she happens to be our nominee, I
Speaker 1: will be behind her. I think she'd make an incredible senator.
Speaker 1: But as of right now, I'm I'm behind Mark Walker. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now I understand that completely. That's the speaking of the
Speaker 1: Trump's president. Donald Trump is certainly a fighter and I
Speaker 1: can't imagine him continuing or not continuing into every every
Speaker 1: court challenge is made, and we'll see what happens. What
Speaker 1: do you think about a Joe Biden administration? What would
Speaker 1: you expect to see from that if he if he
Speaker 1: were to be victorious, rather if the court challenges don't
Speaker 1: stand up. I'll tell you, I hope I'm on the
Speaker 1: oversight committee so I can really rip into his administration
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of quid
Speaker 1: pro quo. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: the old boys Club. I'm sure there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of it. Really kind of going back to the
Speaker 1: policies of Barack Obama, where you're, you know, you see
Speaker 1: the world leader of the United States of America bowing
Speaker 1: down to other world leaders. That's something that I think
Speaker 1: is just is despicable. That's something that I don't ever
Speaker 1: want to see America have to do. And so I
Speaker 1: am going to hope that we're not gonna have to
Speaker 1: have that Joe Biden presidency. But if we do, you
Speaker 1: know what, I think that his administration is just going
Speaker 1: to be filled with, you know, a return to the
Speaker 1: status quo of Washington, d C. And that's something I
Speaker 1: think that it is detrimental to America as a whole. Okay,
Speaker 1: very good. Now let me ask you this, what's kind
Speaker 1: on the plan for you? Because Congress? I mean you're
Speaker 1: you're the youngest person to actually be in Congress in
Speaker 1: modern history. You actually just turned twenty five, which is
Speaker 1: the required age to be in Congress. So I'm just
Speaker 1: so intrigued if you if you're starting the bar here,
Speaker 1: I mean where to next? I mean president or governor
Speaker 1: or what what are you thinking us in it? Well,
Speaker 1: I will tell you my only goal right now. I
Speaker 1: will serve until I get term limits on Congress. That's
Speaker 1: my main mission. If I achieve that, I think I'll
Speaker 1: be happy going back home and raise my family. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you you know, I'm here right now to
Speaker 1: focus on serving the people western North Carolina. If if later,
Speaker 1: way way later in life, I would love to get
Speaker 1: to lead the state of North Carolina as it's as
Speaker 1: its servant as governor. But that that's something way down
Speaker 1: the road. And I uh, I think that the duty
Speaker 1: of president, that's them that's got to be ordained by God.
Speaker 1: So I won't even speak into that that that's that's
Speaker 1: a hectic job. Man. You see all these presidents who
Speaker 1: go in looking like young men and they come out
Speaker 1: as withered. And so I don't know if I want that. No,
Speaker 1: And I tell you, I want to thank you for
Speaker 1: your for your service, and certainly for being an individual
Speaker 1: that a lot of people can look up to, whether
Speaker 1: they be young or old. I think your story is
Speaker 1: one that's truly inspiring and is one that a lot
Speaker 1: of folks in the media, including myself and many others,
Speaker 1: will be paying attention to for years to come. I
Speaker 1: mean you, you're going to be taking this spot which
Speaker 1: AOC recently held as the youngest member of Congress, and
Speaker 1: she's been kind of leading the charge for the Democrats
Speaker 1: on that side. How how will you combat that? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, when I see her, I'm gonna ask, I mean,
Speaker 1: is there like is there a handy off process, is
Speaker 1: it a plaque? Is it like like a small metal
Speaker 1: I don't know what example for being youngest and Congress is,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you you know, she has been
Speaker 1: a ferocious fighter on behalf of the Democrats. She started
Speaker 1: a superPAC called Justice Democrats, which that's the reason you've
Speaker 1: seen the squad's numbers increased throughout the election cycle. But
Speaker 1: I will tell you that's it's got to be fought very,
Speaker 1: very ferociously from our side. You know, you've got people
Speaker 1: like Morgan Seekers, who runs the the organization Young Americans
Speaker 1: Against Socialism, and I think that is so critical. I
Speaker 1: look forward to, you know, fighting alongside Morgan fighting against
Speaker 1: this the socialist policies because you know what, of course
Speaker 1: we want everybody to have health care. Of course we
Speaker 1: want everybody taking care of and have a high standard
Speaker 1: of living. Unfortunately, we live in reality, and unfortunately those
Speaker 1: things cost money. And unfortunately, when you start giving health
Speaker 1: care to every single person, eventually you run out of
Speaker 1: other people's money to spend, and therefore you were going
Speaker 1: to have to start ration and care and that's something
Speaker 1: we can't have in this country. So, you know, as
Speaker 1: AOC has been kind of leading the charge on her behalf,
Speaker 1: I I really do want to help be a servant
Speaker 1: to the American people and lead the charge of the
Speaker 1: Conservatives to say, hey, let reigin government back in, let's
Speaker 1: reduce these three letter agencies and let's make America work
Speaker 1: for us again. Absolutely, and on a last note, what
Speaker 1: advice would you give to a young person who would
Speaker 1: like to one day run for office? So I will
Speaker 1: tell you, uh to that young person, when you sign
Speaker 1: up to run for office, when you're going around doing
Speaker 1: your stump speeches, you're going to your local go ops.
Speaker 1: You're going to have people who have been involved in
Speaker 1: kind of politics in your area for a long time
Speaker 1: approach you, and they are going to say these words.
Speaker 1: You know, I love your zeal, I love your fight,
Speaker 1: I love all your values. But it's just not your time.
Speaker 1: You know you're too young. You need to wait in line,
Speaker 1: you need to pay your dues. To that, I say,
Speaker 1: screw that. Who who the hell are we in line behind?
Speaker 1: And whoever is not doing a very good job. So
Speaker 1: I encourage any patrie, no matter of your age, stand
Speaker 1: up and fight for your country. If you want to
Speaker 1: support term limits, if you want to support making Congress
Speaker 1: work for the American people again, and I'm limiting our
Speaker 1: federal government, I will support you. I will come to
Speaker 1: bat for you, and I will fight for you. So
Speaker 1: I encourage you in this upcoming cycle stand up and
Speaker 1: and and try and get elected. And I know that
Speaker 1: very well. The wait your turn kind of lingo and
Speaker 1: certainly I've not waited my turn. You gotta go and
Speaker 1: take your tone or at leather created is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say? Congressman elect Well, Gianna, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that if you and I are the future
Speaker 1: of the Republican Party, it's gonna be one that's ferocious
Speaker 1: and one that does it back down, because I've got
Speaker 1: to say, you are very problematic as that Rob smith
Speaker 1: leone would say to the tow to the the integrity
Speaker 1: of the Democrats message of them really saying that they
Speaker 1: own the black vote, you know where Joe Biden really says,
Speaker 1: if you're not voting for me, then you ain't black.
Speaker 1: But brother, you are probably one of the as I said,
Speaker 1: if we're not seeing you on Fox News, you're one
Speaker 1: of the most articulate people I've ever met or ever
Speaker 1: heard speaking. You carry our message and I really are
Speaker 1: are our standard, very very well. And so I'll tell
Speaker 1: you I think that you're going to be a thorn
Speaker 1: on the side of this uh these our left socialists
Speaker 1: for a very long time. Wow, I tell you this
Speaker 1: an honor to get those words. And so Condie, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate you uh, Congressman Alex soon
Speaker 1: to be Congressman Madison car Thrown. Thanks Mancy, your friend,
Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. I want to give it very
Speaker 1: special thank you to Representative Elect Madison car Throne for
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