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Speaker 1: Up next, Out Loud with Janno called part of the

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Speaker 1: beginning with Schorn Welcome back to Outllow with Gianno Calledwell,

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Speaker 1: my guest is Madison Carthorne, a Representative elect and the

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Speaker 1: We discuss his future in Congress, what he thinks is

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Welcome to the show, Congressman elect Medisine Cawthorne.

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Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce your last time? Carthorne? Gianno,

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Speaker 1: that's how you pronounce it. But man, it's weird not

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Speaker 1: seeing you with the Fox News blog more than the ankle. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Allow with Gianno called one and I think

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Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing that right. It's not that often that we

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Speaker 1: elect or congressman elect in modern history. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming. And I'm sure you get plenty of platitudes

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Speaker 1: honor to be on with you. Well, you know, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say, man, it's great to be on with you.

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Speaker 1: I think you're a real h just a real culture changer, because,

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there's the policy battle that

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Speaker 1: this radical wish list of the Democrats have been trying

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. But furthermore, I think the more important

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've seen this in our generation. You know,

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Speaker 1: finding that cultural war. You know, you're absolutely correct. Now,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, it's been a world win.

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Speaker 1: You won an election. A lot of people thought you

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Speaker 1: you kept moving forward and certainly you prevailed. So now

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Speaker 1: from that. How are you doing these days? Man? I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, my life could not be much better.

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Speaker 1: You know, I got my wedding coming up this spring.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't ask for much more, I gotta tell you, Gianna,

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Speaker 1: And we thank you for joining us today. Can you

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Speaker 1: pursue a career in politics. Absolutely so. I found out

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about the current events that were

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Speaker 1: And so I tip my hat to people like you

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Speaker 1: must people like Donald Trump who really got this job

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Speaker 1: done for Americans all across the countries. Absolutely, I want

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Speaker 1: to discuss that further, but let's take a quick break. First,

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Speaker 1: stay with us, everyone, And to continue on that note,

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Speaker 1: a COVID vaccine is on the horizon. When you advocate

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Speaker 1: for his distribution, how do you plan to balance the

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Speaker 1: needs of your constituents versus the needs of everyone else?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The needs of everyone else

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Speaker 1: is great all but I represent people western North Caroline,

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Speaker 1: so I will do whatever I can to make sure

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Speaker 1: that they have the better in this day, Okay, and

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Speaker 1: and that's that's what we expect. So thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: That responds. Now here's an interesting one because I had

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Speaker 1: um someone that you know very well. She's a fellow

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Speaker 1: North Carolinian and her name is Lord Trump. She was

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Speaker 1: she's been on this show, and she discussed, well I

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Speaker 1: discussed with her, and we actually ended up breaking news.

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Speaker 1: The possibility of running for Senate in your home state

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Speaker 1: in two could you, Congressman elect? Could you see yourself

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Speaker 1: supporting her if the time were to come. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Lord Trump is incredible. I think she would

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Speaker 1: be an incredible senator. I she loves this state. She

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Speaker 1: knows the counties, intrigrating. We have a hundred counties in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. She knows every single one of them by names.

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Speaker 1: She knows the intricate details of the inner workings of

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Speaker 1: each of these counties. I think she'd do a great job.

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Speaker 1: My number one guiding principal, although is a number my

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Speaker 1: My number one priority in life, in virtue is loyalty.

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Speaker 1: There was a good congressman, Mark Walker, who really supported

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Speaker 1: me all throughout my primary campaign. And he was really

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Speaker 1: backed me and got me through the very vicious primary.

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Speaker 1: But I know he is running for senator, and so

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Speaker 1: I will be supporting him. But you gotta I will

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Speaker 1: tell you my hat is off for Lord Trump and

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Speaker 1: I I if she happens to be our nominee, I

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Speaker 1: will be behind her. I think she'd make an incredible senator.

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Speaker 1: But as of right now, I'm I'm behind Mark Walker. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now I understand that completely. That's the speaking of the

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Speaker 1: Trump's president. Donald Trump is certainly a fighter and I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine him continuing or not continuing into every every

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Speaker 1: court challenge is made, and we'll see what happens. What

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Speaker 1: do you think about a Joe Biden administration? What would

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Speaker 1: you expect to see from that if he if he

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Speaker 1: were to be victorious, rather if the court challenges don't

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Speaker 1: stand up. I'll tell you, I hope I'm on the

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of quid

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Speaker 1: pro quo. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: lot of it. Really kind of going back to the

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Speaker 1: policies of Barack Obama, where you're, you know, you see

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Speaker 1: the world leader of the United States of America bowing

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Speaker 1: down to other world leaders. That's something that I think

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Speaker 1: is just is despicable. That's something that I don't ever

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Speaker 1: want to see America have to do. And so I

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Speaker 1: have that Joe Biden presidency. But if we do, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I think that his administration is just going

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Speaker 1: think that it is detrimental to America as a whole. Okay,

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Speaker 1: very good. Now let me ask you this, what's kind

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Speaker 1: on the plan for you? Because Congress? I mean you're

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Speaker 1: you're the youngest person to actually be in Congress in

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Speaker 1: modern history. You actually just turned twenty five, which is

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Speaker 1: the required age to be in Congress. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: so intrigued if you if you're starting the bar here,

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Speaker 1: I mean where to next? I mean president or governor

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Speaker 1: or what what are you thinking us in it? Well,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you my only goal right now. I

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Speaker 1: will serve until I get term limits on Congress. That's

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Speaker 1: my main mission. If I achieve that, I think I'll

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Speaker 1: be happy going back home and raise my family. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you you know, I'm here right now to

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Speaker 1: focus on serving the people western North Carolina. If if later,

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Speaker 1: way way later in life, I would love to get

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Speaker 1: to lead the state of North Carolina as it's as

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Speaker 1: its servant as governor. But that that's something way down

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Speaker 1: the road. And I uh, I think that the duty

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Speaker 1: of president, that's them that's got to be ordained by God.

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Speaker 1: So I won't even speak into that that that's that's

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Speaker 1: a hectic job. Man. You see all these presidents who

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Speaker 1: go in looking like young men and they come out

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Speaker 1: as withered. And so I don't know if I want that. No,

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Speaker 1: And I tell you, I want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: your for your service, and certainly for being an individual

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people can look up to, whether

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Speaker 1: they be young or old. I think your story is

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Speaker 1: one that's truly inspiring and is one that a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks in the media, including myself and many others,

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Speaker 1: will be paying attention to for years to come. I

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Speaker 1: mean you, you're going to be taking this spot which

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Speaker 1: AOC recently held as the youngest member of Congress, and

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Speaker 1: she's been kind of leading the charge for the Democrats

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Speaker 1: on that side. How how will you combat that? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, when I see her, I'm gonna ask, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is there like is there a handy off process, is

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Speaker 1: it a plaque? Is it like like a small metal

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Speaker 1: I don't know what example for being youngest and Congress is,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you you know, she has been

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Speaker 1: a ferocious fighter on behalf of the Democrats. She started

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Speaker 1: a superPAC called Justice Democrats, which that's the reason you've

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Speaker 1: seen the squad's numbers increased throughout the election cycle. But

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that's it's got to be fought very,

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Speaker 1: very ferociously from our side. You know, you've got people

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Speaker 1: like Morgan Seekers, who runs the the organization Young Americans

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Speaker 1: Against Socialism, and I think that is so critical. I

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Speaker 1: look forward to, you know, fighting alongside Morgan fighting against

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Speaker 1: this the socialist policies because you know what, of course

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Speaker 1: we want everybody to have health care. Of course we

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Speaker 1: want everybody taking care of and have a high standard

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Speaker 1: of living. Unfortunately, we live in reality, and unfortunately those

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Speaker 1: things cost money. And unfortunately, when you start giving health

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Speaker 1: care to every single person, eventually you run out of

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Speaker 1: other people's money to spend, and therefore you were going

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Speaker 1: to have to start ration and care and that's something

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Speaker 1: we can't have in this country. So, you know, as

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Speaker 1: AOC has been kind of leading the charge on her behalf,

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Speaker 1: I I really do want to help be a servant

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Speaker 1: to the American people and lead the charge of the

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Speaker 1: Conservatives to say, hey, let reigin government back in, let's

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Speaker 1: reduce these three letter agencies and let's make America work

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Speaker 1: for us again. Absolutely, and on a last note, what

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Speaker 1: advice would you give to a young person who would

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Speaker 1: like to one day run for office? So I will

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Speaker 1: tell you, uh to that young person, when you sign

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Speaker 1: up to run for office, when you're going around doing

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Speaker 1: your stump speeches, you're going to your local go ops.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have people who have been involved in

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Speaker 1: kind of politics in your area for a long time

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Speaker 1: approach you, and they are going to say these words.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love your zeal, I love your fight,

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Speaker 1: I love all your values. But it's just not your time.

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Speaker 1: You know you're too young. You need to wait in line,

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Speaker 1: you need to pay your dues. To that, I say,

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Speaker 1: screw that. Who who the hell are we in line behind?

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Speaker 1: And whoever is not doing a very good job. So

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Speaker 1: I encourage any patrie, no matter of your age, stand

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Speaker 1: up and fight for your country. If you want to

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Speaker 1: support term limits, if you want to support making Congress

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Speaker 1: work for the American people again, and I'm limiting our

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Speaker 1: federal government, I will support you. I will come to

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Speaker 1: bat for you, and I will fight for you. So

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Speaker 1: I encourage you in this upcoming cycle stand up and

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Speaker 1: and and try and get elected. And I know that

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Speaker 1: very well. The wait your turn kind of lingo and

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Speaker 1: certainly I've not waited my turn. You gotta go and

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Speaker 1: take your tone or at leather created is there anything

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Speaker 1: else you want to say? Congressman elect Well, Gianna, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that if you and I are the future

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Speaker 1: of the Republican Party, it's gonna be one that's ferocious

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Speaker 1: and one that does it back down, because I've got

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Speaker 1: to say, you are very problematic as that Rob smith

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Speaker 1: leone would say to the tow to the the integrity

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Speaker 1: of the Democrats message of them really saying that they

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Speaker 1: own the black vote, you know where Joe Biden really says,

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Speaker 1: if you're not voting for me, then you ain't black.

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Speaker 1: But brother, you are probably one of the as I said,

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Speaker 1: if we're not seeing you on Fox News, you're one

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Speaker 1: of the most articulate people I've ever met or ever

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Speaker 1: heard speaking. You carry our message and I really are

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Speaker 1: are our standard, very very well. And so I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you I think that you're going to be a thorn

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Speaker 1: on the side of this uh these our left socialists

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Speaker 1: for a very long time. Wow, I tell you this

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Speaker 1: an honor to get those words. And so Condie, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate you uh, Congressman Alex soon

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Speaker 1: to be Congressman Madison car Thrown. Thanks Mancy, your friend,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. I want to give it very

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