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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to what we hope will be the

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Speaker 1: nicest between the horns yet, as the Los Angeles Rams

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Speaker 1: are your twenty eighteen NFC West champions. Oh happiest, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but why nice? Well you mean we have to be

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Speaker 1: nice to each other? No? No No, no, oh okay, I

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Speaker 1: just I just meant that, you know from what the

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Speaker 1: title of the episode is. Oh, because I thought we

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Speaker 1: were always cool. I mean we're always cool, Okay, just

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Speaker 1: making sure. Yeah, when you drop nicest, are you trying

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Speaker 1: to say I'm I've been mean or something? Oh? No, No,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily about UK. I'll put it that way.

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Speaker 1: I might be sensitive, you might December. But yes, the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams are back to back NFC West champions

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Speaker 1: for the first time since nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to believe. That's a long time,

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Speaker 1: you know. Funny, we were having this discussion with less

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Speaker 1: Need and JB brought up the first time they did

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Speaker 1: it in Tennessee. The locker room was you four you

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Speaker 1: were down there, Yes, fun this one was a little

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Speaker 1: more immuted than the first time. It was. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's fair. It is kind of old hat. Not to

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Speaker 1: say it in a bad way because you've done it before,

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Speaker 1: but the bar gets raised every single year. But I said,

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Speaker 1: this one is actually tougher than the year before because

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Speaker 1: you couldn't sneak up on anybody this year. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: everyone gave you their best shot. Right. And it's funny

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Speaker 1: because I was talking to to kel Roby Coleman about this,

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Speaker 1: like he and he was really fired up and Nikels

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Speaker 1: he's an excitable guy. But I just thought it was

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Speaker 1: so interesting to me because when he started talking about

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Speaker 1: how they he said, we eliminated everybody. You know, we

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Speaker 1: we like last year, there were some circumstances and then

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Speaker 1: you know, we kind of got to the top. He said,

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Speaker 1: this year, no, we did this. Yeah, we got through

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Speaker 1: pretty much everybody. Yeah, And so that is I think

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Speaker 1: the difference. And not only that, but you're meeting and

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Speaker 1: exceeding expectations. Yeah, you know what I mean. I want

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Speaker 1: this group to stay in that mode forever, but it's impossible.

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Speaker 1: But that sounds like the Golden State Warriors, how they

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Speaker 1: feel they're together. They're a team. It's them against everyone.

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Speaker 1: So that's the feeling you get here, and that's how

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Speaker 1: you have to take it one game at a time.

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Speaker 1: You have to take it to Chicago. You can't look

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs now, but you have to take that

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Speaker 1: sort of mentality to Chicago. But that is where you

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Speaker 1: want it as a football team, right exactly where they're

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Speaker 1: thinking of every week we're eliminating names, not just gaining numbers. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: And they and they do it as a team and

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Speaker 1: it's the way, not me, and it's everything. But I

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Speaker 1: think one more thing. Don't you think it's funny that

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Speaker 1: one of the best slot corners, the Nickel, is named Nickel? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: has that ever crossed your mind? Oh? Absolutely? Yeah. Well

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Speaker 1: you know what his Twitter handle is, right, what's it? God? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like you saying Bolt being named Bolt? It fits right Nickel? Perfect. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he's done a really good job with the last

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Speaker 1: years for the LA Rams. But you know what's funny

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Speaker 1: about this game? It was thirty to sixteen victory, and

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Speaker 1: now we're talking about this it is Thursday, December six

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Speaker 1: I don't think I said that at the top, but

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Speaker 1: what the funny thing about that game? And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you remember this, but we were talking on

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Speaker 1: the sideline, you know, It was either before or after

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Speaker 1: we did pregame live, and I brought up the fact that, like,

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Speaker 1: what kind of game? You know, we all talk about

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Speaker 1: what kind of game do we think it's gonna be? Right,

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Speaker 1: So I was playing the people crossed in front of us. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Miles almost snapped. No, No, you were closer. You were

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Speaker 1: way closer to snapping than I was. In this particular

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Speaker 1: con I was just trying to get out in front

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Speaker 1: of it because I know how you are, fair, but

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Speaker 1: on this day I was not. You were much closer

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Speaker 1: to snapping because I got out in front of it

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Speaker 1: before you snapped. Okay, anyway, but you know, we were

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Speaker 1: talking and I played a little Glory days, and I

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Speaker 1: was saying that in high school there was one game

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Speaker 1: where in my senior year where we beat a team

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Speaker 1: forty eight to sixteen. Right, and the offensive line coachman

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Speaker 1: on us all game and he goes at the end,

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Speaker 1: that was the worst forty eight to sixteen victory I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Long pause, let that sink. Wait wait, yes,

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Speaker 1: exactly so, and that's the thing. Right, So it was

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Speaker 1: Like you won thirty to sixteen, you won by two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: And when did you started When did you start to

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Speaker 1: breathe easy? It's a thirty to sixteen game that's winning

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Speaker 1: handily in the NFL is And when did you start

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Speaker 1: to go after Aaron Donald bumbled, Matt Stafford and Todd

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Speaker 1: Gurley put it in the box way late? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was in the fourth quarter. It was a dog fight.

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Speaker 1: I thought Detroit had They played better than I thought

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Speaker 1: on defense and made plays on offense and they made

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Speaker 1: the Rams really have to work for it. But the

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Speaker 1: Rams made more plays than they did down the Stressford.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, and you have to expect that

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Speaker 1: I do. Every game on your schedule is going to

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Speaker 1: be like that. That's just the way it is in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Teams that are on their way out,

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Speaker 1: rosters are going to change, you know this. So guys

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Speaker 1: are playing for their football lives. If you're out of

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Speaker 1: the postseason race, well, especially in the last quarter of

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Speaker 1: the season, no doubt. And if you're in the playoff race,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you're jockeying for seeds now, so it's competitive.

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Speaker 1: Every single game will resemble what you saw in Detroit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it will. It's funny though, because I mean you look

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Speaker 1: at the numbers again. The Rams scored thirty points. They

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Speaker 1: had three hundred and forty four total yards. Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: is the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. Ye had

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two yards rushing. One hundred years ago,

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Speaker 1: we would have had a parade right for those numbers. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: And it's just it was a game that was not

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Speaker 1: so they got the win. You're never You're not always

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Speaker 1: going to break the bank and hit on all cylinders.

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Speaker 1: Teams are getting paid to take you away. Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: you're in week thirteen. Yes, there's a lot of tape on,

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Speaker 1: you know there is, And you know what's happened a

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Speaker 1: few times, and I've been meaning to ask Sean mcvayh

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Speaker 1: different stuff defensively. Yeah, teams are switching up what they're

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Speaker 1: doing on film for the law Los Angeles Rams because

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Speaker 1: the Rams are so good on offense, true, and so

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Speaker 1: it's you still have your rules absolutely, and and and

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Speaker 1: I said he was as smart as we are on defense,

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Speaker 1: which means when he carries the football, first he knows

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Speaker 1: then if that guy doesn't make the play, somebody else does.

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Speaker 1: He instantly knew who missed the block and where it

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Speaker 1: eventually the Rams did. Dude, just that they did crack

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Speaker 1: And that's what good teams are able to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: And it's something that these offensive linemen have talked about

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Speaker 1: can run the ball on anybody in time and time again,

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Speaker 1: they showed that they can. Yeah. I thought in Detroit

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Speaker 1: it was very creative. How they got Todd Gurley the

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Speaker 1: I thought the way they ran the football it was effective.

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Speaker 1: Detroit was really really, really special. Yes, and that helped

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Speaker 1: And when Jared Goff only throws for two hundred and

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Speaker 1: grown accustomed to seeing from Jaredy. I wouldn't throw him

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Speaker 1: he just missed wide. So if you could have hit

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Speaker 1: those plays, those numbers that you just mentioned, what they

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Speaker 1: I mean, but he's been on target for the most part.

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Speaker 1: So everyone has to get better. And I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, and you still won thirty to sixteen,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he did, And I

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Speaker 1: think Sean McVeigh gave him a lot of credit for

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Speaker 1: how Goff was able to check things in the run game.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's something that the quarterback has to do

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Speaker 1: that I don't think quarterbacks around the league get a

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Speaker 1: make sure everybody here's the right call, right, and then

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Speaker 1: you go through. I mean it's like an A minus

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Speaker 1: paper you know. I know that would drive some kids berserk.

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Speaker 1: It's still an A minus. I mean, he played well

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Speaker 1: enough to win. That's all I care about. I say,

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Speaker 1: it's a B plus. See what I mean. This is why,

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Speaker 1: I told you that only took fifteen minutes. But no,

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Speaker 1: I mean an a minus paper is still an a minus.

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Speaker 1: But playing well enough to win at that spot is

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Speaker 1: like climbing a mountain. So you get to this plateau

423
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Speaker 1: and you make base camp and you make decisions based

424
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Speaker 1: on this, but get here first. Yes, then you will

425
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Speaker 1: see then you look up and say, okay, we're going

426
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Speaker 1: to attack them out in this way. Yeah, but just

427
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Speaker 1: achieve this first. Do you ever play, you know, lose,

428
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Speaker 1: like racing video games like Cruise in USA, Cruising the World? Man? Yes, yeah,

429
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Speaker 1: I see. I think we should have stopped there because

430
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: when you wrecked, the car really didn't get wrecked, right Yeah, yeah,

431
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 1: it just it like it wrecked and then it would

432
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Speaker 1: like go away and then it would reappear in like

433
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Speaker 1: Flash three times. Yeah. I liked it better than yes.

434
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Speaker 1: But in that game, you know like there's certain you

435
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: reach a certain point and the like the lady goes

436
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: to checkpoint right yeah, yes, so that's kind of where

437
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 1: the rams are right now. God, I just became like

438
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: eighteen again. Yeah when you did that, Wow, he's on fire?

439
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah what was that? That's NBA jam he got it? Okay,

440
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Speaker 1: I just kind of did like I let's point out

441
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Speaker 1: the fact that I kind of just did a demarcoism.

442
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: There you did, and it work. I liked it all right,

443
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Speaker 1: So I would just like to plant out that eleven

444
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Speaker 1: twelve am Pacific time the year when he said nice

445
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: he was talking about himself. Now, now you just have

446
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: been snark. You just don't get the choke. I didn't

447
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Speaker 1: get the joke. I got you. So let's go to

448
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Speaker 1: our deep dive. Now, let's talk about two guys that

449
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Speaker 1: I have now started this thing where each week, because

450
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald are leading the league in

451
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Speaker 1: their respective categories. When you look at ESPN dot com,

452
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Speaker 1: NFL dot com, what have you, You You see Todd Gurley

453
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Speaker 1: leading the league and rushing on one side of the panel,

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Speaker 1: and then Aaron Donald leading the league in sacks on

455
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Speaker 1: the other side of the panel. And it's very cool.

456
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: It's a tough team to beat, boy, right. So I

457
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: got this from our pr intern, Ryan Perez, and he

458
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Speaker 1: said this la Ram's fact. Before week fourteen, he tweeted this,

459
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Speaker 1: so he says, running back Todd Gurley leads the league

460
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Speaker 1: in rushing yards. He has one thousand, one hundred and

461
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Speaker 1: seventy five defensive tackle. Aaron Donald leads the league in

462
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Speaker 1: sacks with sixteen and a half. The last team to

463
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Speaker 1: lead in both categories after Week thirteen was the nineteen

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Speaker 1: nineties six Denver Broncos with Roll Davis who had twelve

465
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven rushing yards and Alfred Williams who

466
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Speaker 1: had thirteen sigal my man, yeah, wow, yeah, those Denver

467
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Speaker 1: teams were they went back to back. I you know what,

468
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Speaker 1: my this is embarrassing my Super Bowl history, Like they

469
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Speaker 1: went back that was ninety seven, ninety eight, right, But

470
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Speaker 1: I mean, but it's part of that same run. The

471
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Speaker 1: way they ran it. Oh my god. They ran the football,

472
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Speaker 1: that zone blocking scheme and they would drop the daylight

473
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Speaker 1: side of you, and it seemed like back after back.

474
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Speaker 1: Terrell Davis became the most famous guy two thousand yards

475
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Speaker 1: and Alfred could always rush. That makes sense, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you said a d and then Todd

477
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Speaker 1: Gurley and you had a hot running back and just

478
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Speaker 1: a dominating defensive tackle even if you didn't have anything else,

479
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Speaker 1: they would be a tough out on game day. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's a tough team to beat when

481
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Speaker 1: you can do it like that. Yes, especially I mean

482
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Speaker 1: the way Aaron Donald is playing right now, excuse me,

483
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Speaker 1: like he has now entered this MVP conversation not to

484
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Speaker 1: do the sort of cheap sports radio thing, but is

485
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald do you think that he deserves that consideration?

486
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Speaker 1: What were we talking about during the hold out when

487
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Speaker 1: we I don't know if it was for a podcast

488
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: or me and you just texting back and forth when

489
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: I said he is just getting started. This is when

490
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Speaker 1: we first started the negotiation, when he won Defensive Player

491
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Speaker 1: of the Year, when it wasn't even like a joke.

492
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Speaker 1: This is when we were talking about clay As Campbell

493
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Speaker 1: being a candidate. Great year, but there's no way this

494
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Speaker 1: is your defensive MVP. But just watching him and how

495
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Speaker 1: he's performed and how he's doing it and what they're

496
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Speaker 1: trying to do against him, yes, it's MVP worthy. He

497
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Speaker 1: should be in the same category. It's you don't have

498
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Speaker 1: somebody this dominant who's doing what he's doing and is

499
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Speaker 1: forcing the takeaways like he's forcing the takeaways and all

500
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Speaker 1: these sacks are consequential. I mean you started talking about this.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about this on the plane. JB wrote about

502
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Speaker 1: this actually on the rams Dot com you should check

503
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Speaker 1: it out. But you can basically go through all of

504
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: his sacks and look at just how consequential they are.

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Speaker 1: They are drive enders. Yeah, yeah, he's But this is

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Speaker 1: the thing, right, There's gonna be great secondaries, there's gonna

507
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Speaker 1: be good pass rushes, there's gonna be teams that stop

508
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Speaker 1: the run. There's gonna be good receivers, good running backs,

509
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Speaker 1: good everything. Just looking down the road, there isn't an

510
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Speaker 1: equalizer on anyone's own line for him, period, end of story.

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Speaker 1: Even the Pro Bowlers are getting thrown Yeah, yeah, the

512
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: All pros that he's bumped up against are getting thrown.

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Speaker 1: So that to me separates him from everyone no matter

514
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Speaker 1: what goes on around him. Like even back in the

515
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: day when he first got to the NFL, he was

516
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Speaker 1: still Aaron Donald. So good or bad, when he steps

517
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: on the field, he's the best player on the field.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you call that for me. That

519
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Speaker 1: might be MVP, yes, I mean you're talking talking to

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Speaker 1: guys in the locker room after that win. It was

521
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Speaker 1: I think it was Nikael Robey Coleman again. He was saying, look,

522
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Speaker 1: he deserves everything that's coming to him. Yeah, you know,

523
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Speaker 1: he deserves the highest honors because it is so unique

524
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: what he is able to do each and every week,

525
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Speaker 1: especially because they're double teaming him, particularly every play, he

526
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Speaker 1: does not get as many one on one rushing opportunities

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Speaker 1: as one would think for a player that has sixteen

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Speaker 1: and a half sacks through fourteen games. So just just

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Speaker 1: watching him and what twelve games? Sorry, yeah, watching him

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Speaker 1: and what he's done, right every week. It's fun to

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Speaker 1: watch him. Chris, Okay, consider that someone is going to

532
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Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl from one of those teams he

533
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Speaker 1: just played, or at least two or three probably, and

534
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: they all look silly, you see what I'm saying. So

535
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Speaker 1: and when you keep looking forward and project out into

536
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Speaker 1: the postseason, you still don't have an answer. There hasn't

537
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: been a guy yet, right, So that separates him, right, Yeah,

538
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: it makes him different than everybody else. I mean, if

539
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Speaker 1: you look at last year's numbers, he won Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year with these numbers eleven sacks, fifteen tackles

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Speaker 1: for lost, twenty seven quarterback hits, and then a Pro

542
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Speaker 1: Football Focus had him in ninety some pressures blah blah blah. Right,

543
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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be something if he broke stray Hand's record

544
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Speaker 1: on Sunday night, Like everybody says, hell, would he do that?

545
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: When I'm just saying, wouldn't it be? So? I mean

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Speaker 1: he would he moved in theory he can maybe have

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Speaker 1: a chance to do it next Sunday. Dude, that's the

548
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: funny when you say he has a chance to threaten

549
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Speaker 1: like a record, and then what if he doesn't one game?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility,

551
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: because again, like I've seen this guy every game of

552
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: his career in sixteen and a half sacks and he

553
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: leads the league by a wide margin in pressures. Correct, Okay,

554
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: some of those could turn into sacks in a hurry, Yeah,

555
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: some lucky ones all of a sudden quarterback falls down

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00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: two or three times. Yeah yeah, Okay, Well, like I

557
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Speaker 1: said it, so eleven sacks, fifteen tackles for loss, twenty

558
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Speaker 1: seven quarterback kits in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, again, through

559
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Speaker 1: just twelve games there four games love, sixteen and a

560
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: half sacks leads the league, twenty tackles for loss leads

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Speaker 1: the league, thirty two quarterback hits. Crazy. So if he's

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the very least, he is the defensive

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Speaker 1: player of the year. And with apologies to all the

564
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: other great defensive players, one of which the Rams will

565
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: see this week, you're not this good. No, I mean look,

566
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: I think everybody understands, but I mean, look, there's still

567
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: ways that you can limit the damage. And this is

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Speaker 1: where you take the emphasis off him, And this is

569
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Speaker 1: where you bring in the other two guys, Jared Goff

570
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: and Todd Gurley, because without an offense that can score,

571
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Speaker 1: even if he recking shop and giving you the ball

572
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: back and it don't matter, than his production ain't gonna matter. Yes, yeah,

573
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Speaker 1: well that and that's what we saw in years like

574
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen instance. So when he does get you the football,

575
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: when he hands it to coach McVeigh, coach McVay says,

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Speaker 1: thank you, I will deposit it right in the end

577
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: zone for you. Yes, can you please get me the

578
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: ball again, mister Donald, And then the whole cycle continues.

579
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Speaker 1: But as long as you're paying him back with good offense,

580
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep giving you the ball. That's what makes

581
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: him special. Yes, exactly. So he's sixteen and a half sacks.

582
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Speaker 1: The record for an interior lineman is eighteen sacks, So okay,

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00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he already beat you. The role that

584
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: he's on, I wouldn't just stop with interior. This is different,

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00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: not twenty two and a half. Is not out of

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00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. Yeah, right the way I mean,

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00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: he's had six multi sack games this year at twelve, yes, yes,

588
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Speaker 1: and he didn't have a sack the first three weeks. See, like,

589
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: when you get beyond this and this is fun, just

590
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: we can do this because we're spectators, right, But I'm

591
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: just looking at Okay, when Arizona has to block him,

592
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: that's a game, and that is a game at least

593
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: at this point. You're still going you're going to need

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00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: to win that game, right, And I think maybe the

595
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: only team this year if everything goes right, if you

596
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: win in Chicago, which is most important. I'm trying to

597
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: get too far ahead, but just talking about Aaron and

598
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: chasing records and what could probably happen. The only team

599
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: that might get a break from him is San Francisco

600
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: because it's the last one at the end of the year.

601
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: So every team up is a potential threat for him

602
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: to run by you and smash your quarterback and if

603
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: the Saints keep winning, then San Francisco won't even escape.

604
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So I wouldn't just stop with

605
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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle record if all these games matter and

606
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: he has to give you Aaron Donald performance, like do

607
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: you find yourself at certain points just like saying, Wow,

608
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: we are really witnessing something historic this season, especially you

609
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: being down on the field. I'm enjoy really, I'm enjoying

610
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: watching a guy being that technically sound. I was thinking

611
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: about this on the way over. Who the best players

612
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I've ever played with or I've ever seen and I

613
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: have to bring in college? It does matter because college

614
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: is just as tough at that point in your life.

615
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Speaker 1: A guy named Steve Etman when I was there in college,

616
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Speaker 1: he became the first pick in the draft as a

617
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle. He was the most dominant guy I've ever seen.

618
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Speaker 1: He was the reason we won every game. I could

619
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Speaker 1: care less what everybody said about all the other players

620
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: we had, and we had some good ones. You couldn't

621
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Speaker 1: block him. He destroyed everything everything there. We ran out

622
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: of stuff for him to do, so we challenged him

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Speaker 1: one week way in nineteen ninety one, our d line

624
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Speaker 1: coach Randy Hart loved him to death. You hated him,

625
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: then you love him. Now. Just challenge Steve. I bet

626
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: you can't pick off a screen, and the next week

627
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: he did it. I mean, just good Lord. We challenged

628
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: him one time in Winner drills. This guy's six foot six,

629
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Speaker 1: three fifteen pounds and maybe ten percent body fat. Right, Steve,

630
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: you can't do a backflip or have you ever done

631
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: a backflip? Nope? Never, I bet you can't do one.

632
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: What Bang did it? Right? Then? It's just wow. The

633
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: most dominant guy I've ever seen. He wrecked everybody's Saturday.

634
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: The most dominant until I saw this and this is

635
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, until I saw what Aaron is doing. He

636
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: doesn't miss. The way he plays blocks is technically perfect.

637
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Nine percent of the time. His setup moves win miles.

638
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: When he is just bulling you back to the quarterback

639
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: to get you to give you the set that he

640
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: wants so he can beat you on a pass rush

641
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: that wins. Not only does it win, it's productive, it

642
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: gets the ball out too. So when he's setting you up,

643
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: he's winning. When he gets to the move he wants,

644
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: he's unstoppable. It's incredible and it's down in and down out.

645
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: It is insane. I love watching it's it's really remarkable

646
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: when you think about how often he's on the field,

647
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: because defensive tackles are not usually on the field. Eighty

648
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: to ninety percent of the time he is. Yeah, it's

649
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: this is the thing I respect about him and Sue

650
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: and and Brockers and all of them. Yeah, especially there

651
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: when when when you change possession. I love it when

652
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: Witt is the first guy out on offense. Yeah, when

653
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: he sprints out to the hash marks, that means a lot.

654
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: He's taken the field first, It really does. That's old school.

655
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Love it. You don't have to be first as a defense,

656
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: but you're always out there when the ball is snapped.

657
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: That means just as much. And those guys are always

658
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: out if it is to be it's up to me.

659
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: That is a mentality only interior guy's share, and they're

660
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: always there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's it's been remarkable.

661
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: But like I said, I mean, I think when sometimes

662
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: you gotta take stock, you know they say, stopping Snowler

663
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: roses Like, we really are seeing one of the most

664
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: dominant seasons by a defensive player in the history of

665
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's why I'm enjoying the hell out of it,

666
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: because things change fast in this league. Absolutely, so, I

667
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: mean I hope that the team. I hope they do

668
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: what we think they can do. Yeah. Yeah, And if

669
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: and if it keeps happening, then I think you might

670
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: see something that changes the game completely, Like you never

671
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: thought this was possible from that position. Yeah, so that

672
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: position will be transformed thanks to him. Yeah, yeah, it

673
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: certainly could happen going into the future. A couple of

674
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: things to wrap up last week in that game, keep

675
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: Talib was back. You played the first half. What'd you

676
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: see from him there? You know, Look, it's funny the

677
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: great ones men. How long has he been off? Eight

678
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: weeks and you didn't You really couldn't tell. Yeah, yeah,

679
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean he's working himself back in the shape. No

680
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: one can just walk off the street and be dominant.

681
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: But he played great football for a guy just coming back. Yeah.

682
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: So that was good. You had him on a pitch count,

683
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: you got the work you needed and it went great. Yes. Yeah,

684
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: so next week you give him more. Pretty soon he's

685
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: back to being to lead. But even when he's less than,

686
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: he's still better than, right, Yeah, exactly. And that's what

687
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh always says. You know you've got a special player.

688
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: He's a dominant player. That's exactly what you want to see.

689
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: He played only about twenty six snaps, so that was

690
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: the first half, and the Rams only gave up one

691
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: hundred and eight yards in that first half. So John

692
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: Johnson was saying like, look, you can see the tangible

693
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: effect that Talib has when he comes back, no doubt.

694
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean on the field, it helps, It helps you

695
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: know the other corner corners, depending on what you're in,

696
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: the safeties, everybody. Is just a common effect when you

697
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: have him out there. But also for the coaching staff

698
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: because you're trying to gain information from the players when

699
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: something either good or bad happens. Sure you're trying to

700
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: gain information from the guys on the bench so you

701
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: can correct it, get it fixed, right, Okay, turning having

702
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: the ability to turn to a guy that's in the

703
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: game or a guy like to leave and say where

704
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: are you seeing? This is what they're doing, coach, Oh okay,

705
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: we'll adjust. You'll go back out and make plays. So

706
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: not having that, wow, having that back all the difference. Yes, absolutely,

707
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: also shout out to Troy Hill, who did play in

708
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: that second half and rotating in with Sam Shields as

709
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: we've seen, but he made a really athletic interception there

710
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. I don't know what

711
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: were you about the other one moment. Yeah, that would

712
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: have lived forever, it would I think that would have

713
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: been to the house, yeah, probably, Yeah, Yeah, I mean

714
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: that was beautiful. But yeah, the the the game ceiling pick. Yeah,

715
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: I mean, are you shocked by that because I'm not. Well, no,

716
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: I think look, Troy Hill, since he has now been

717
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: here with this team basically for the last three seasons.

718
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Initially came in the last week of the season in

719
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, but now I think we've seen him grow,

720
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: We've seen him get a lot better, and you know,

721
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: basically he's been starting since to leave has not been

722
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: in there, so it's not like it was that unfamiliar

723
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: to see him. Troy Hill professional corner. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, right.

724
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: Next thing, Brandon Cooks went over a thousand yards receiving

725
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: in this game, So he became the first player in

726
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: NFL history to go over a thousand yards receiving in

727
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: three consecutive years for three different teams. So shout out

728
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: to him. That's what's the one mystery about him? What

729
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: is the one thing that stands out about Brandon Cooks?

730
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Not his speed. I'm not sure where you're going with this.

731
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: He's he's a good receiver, right, it's a great receiver.

732
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: Then why is this his third team? Oh? Because of

733
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: the two teams he's played for before. But that's that's

734
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, how did you wind up getting him?

735
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: He's this good, He's always been this good. Yeah. Yeah,

736
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: you had a first round pick and the Patriots didn't

737
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: want to pay him. With the Rams paid him. Sometimes

738
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: you're lucky finding Sometimes you just find forty bucks on

739
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: the street. Sometimes you do you hold it up right, yes,

740
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: but then for about how long do you hold it up?

741
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: Five seconds? No? I don't hold up I don't hold

742
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: two minutes. No, I don't. I don't hold up money

743
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: on the street at all. I just put it right

744
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: into my ball. Come on, you got it. It could

745
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: have been somebody's mom. You got to see if somebody

746
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: dropped it, right, I look, I look. You gotta give

747
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: the eye test five minute, and you have to ask

748
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: somebody if they dropped it. It's a wallet. You have

749
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: to if It's just like, if it's cash, you have

750
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: to have the nearest person. Hey did you yes, yeah,

751
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: I'll do that. But after that in the pot, okay,

752
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: well that's that's Brandon Cooks. You found money with him.

753
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: That absolutely big time. And I think it's worth pointing

754
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: out that between Cooks, Havenstein, Gurley, and Donald, all of

755
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: those guys are having terrific seasons and they are all

756
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: for the guys that got extended before this season. So

757
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: see this, that's the people like when you say are

758
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: run of dominance. That's how it happens. You have good players,

759
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: but the young players that play with those guys come up,

760
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: and then once the old guys fade away, then they

761
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: used to be young guys become the old guys. Yes,

762
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: and it just carries on for five, six, seven, eight years.

763
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: That's the wall that's called to me building a program.

764
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: That's how you have to do it in the NFL

765
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: in order to have sustain success. It's what the Steelers do.

766
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: The Patriots obviously have done it for the better part

767
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: of the last two decades, right, Packers really have usually

768
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: been able to do it. How many coaches have come

769
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: out of that Baltimore run didn't they have like a

770
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: thousand head coaches out of that one Baltimore runya, I

771
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: mean pagano U, Marvin Lewis even great coaches, and then

772
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they go run their own squads.

773
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, building a program starts with your young

774
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: guys becoming great old guys. Andy Reid really is starting

775
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: to build that sort of thing too, in terms of

776
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: head coaches, with Reid himself in Kansas City, Doug Peterson,

777
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: that they're in Philadelphia winning the Super Bowl last year,

778
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, and this guy we're going to see this week,

779
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: Matt Nagy. So no doubt, you know a lot of people. Yes,

780
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: one more thing to wrap up from the previous week.

781
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown likely out for the season, and that is

782
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: I think more significant than the Rams would like it

783
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: to be, if that makes sense. I mean, he is

784
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: the backup running back, plays about fifteen percent of the

785
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: snaps on offense. Yeah, but big special teams contributor, and

786
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: when you do put him in there, there's no worries.

787
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: There's there was a there was a word we used

788
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: to call backs like him. He was the old blank back,

789
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: like when you had the second starter. He's not a backup.

790
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: He's the second starter. Yes, and when he's in there,

791
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: he's in there to do a job. Part of it

792
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: is running the football. The other part is just to beat.

793
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: You beat the living, you know what, vere so the

794
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: other guy can come in and exploit. Yes, yes, yes,

795
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's the old blank back. Oh here it comes,

796
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: you know what's coming, right, Yeah, this is when you

797
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: have to blow up, you tighten your chin strap when

798
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: he's in the game. So yeah, you's that's terrible. That's

799
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: terrible for him and the football it is he is.

800
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: He's definitely a violent downhill roll and I think we

801
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: saw that last week and that it must have been

802
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: the one carry that he did have where he broke

803
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: a couple tackles and then boom he gets seven yards

804
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: on a play that almost looked like it could him

805
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: in a TfL. Way back in the day. If he

806
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: would have been like played in the mid eighties, they

807
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: would have made him a fullback. Yeah, you'd be on

808
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: the field. He's that sort of mentality. But he's a tailback.

809
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: He's the second starter. So basically now it looks like

810
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: we will see a combination probably of John Kelly and

811
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Justin Davis in the backfield, so basically their first opportunities

812
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: to play offense, you know. And you feel bad for Malcolm, right,

813
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: but I think you might have unleashed something else are

814
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: you talking about specifically with Kelly. They're different backs, They're smaller,

815
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: they're faster, they're quicker. There's there's there's things you can

816
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: do with them that will hit faster. So I mean

817
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: it's not you want Malcolm in there. You love that plan,

818
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: but it's just you're going to get something different with

819
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: these little backs that you haven't seen, which is going

820
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: to be tough to defend in some ways. It's kind

821
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: of like Cooper Cup going out. Yeah, it's not quite

822
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: the same obviously because Cup was one of the starters

823
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Brown is not. But you now have Josh

824
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Reynolds in there, and we talked about this, yes, yeah,

825
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: and now you've got to deal with a taller Reynolds exactly. Yeah, yes,

826
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: the same quarterback gunning for your throat, right, Yes, and

827
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: so it could be something meaty, a little bit similar

828
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: when you have a John Kelly or Justin David Us

829
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: in there. They have a little bit more I don't

830
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: want to maybe that's not the necessarily right term. I

831
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: was going to say, like a more dynamic quality, you

832
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But they bring a different skill

833
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: set than Malcolm Brown. Fast guys. Man. Um, we had

834
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: a lot of fun in the preseason watching them run.

835
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, they were jack Rabbits out there. Yeah, and

836
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna see some jack Rabbit plays with him. Yeah yeah,

837
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Um. All right, so you let's turn

838
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: to our look ahead now as we start to preview

839
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: this matchup with the Chicago Barrison, I want to start

840
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: with this tweet that you had about The Revenant, right.

841
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's great that you were tweeting, go follow

842
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: him everyone at DeMarco one. So what the tweet was was,

843
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: if I could choose one movie that sums up this

844
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: week's matchup in Chicago, it would be The Revenant. What

845
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: am I saying? Well, yes, I actually have seen this. Okay,

846
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: describe the movie in three words. Um, Leo versus Bear Okay,

847
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: bear connection, Yeah, bears okay, cold Right, that's all I

848
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: was going for Leo. Yeah, basically, the Bears are coming

849
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: after you, but Leo survived and he ultimately won the day.

850
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: It's going to be tough, So that's it. That was it? Yeah,

851
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: I thought like obviously, like I you know, I cheated back, like, oh,

852
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: who's the bear Mcardonald. I know, because the thing that

853
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: is the most memorable about that movie, yeah, the bear attack.

854
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: Well you're going to Chicago to face the bears and

855
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be cold. That's it's all. Anyway, you

856
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: had another tweet, and I do again. I like that

857
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: you're exactive on Twitter. This is kind of weird, Like

858
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: Miles reading Demarcos, I kind of like this segment. Okay,

859
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: all right, it's weird to say this out loud, and

860
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: this is being your tweet, but this has to be

861
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: a huge week for Baron and suit. Exception is reality

862
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: and the pay leagues and the number of zeros in

863
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: their production charts is a little startling for players of

864
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: their color. I was just looking up a d stuff

865
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: and you get lost in what in his numbers, and

866
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: then you start to look at everyone else and looking

867
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: at Sue and then totaling up his game logs, and

868
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: then you realize he hasn't had a tackle for lost

869
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: in seven weeks. Well, I've never seen that out of Sue.

870
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, this is odd. So schematically I get it.

871
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: They're moving him around everywhere. You know, the the what

872
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: he's doing for the defense sometimes won't produce numbers, you know.

873
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we we talked about this before the season,

874
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: like right when he was signed in the first place,

875
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: like that, if you have Aaron Donald at three technique,

876
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: then that's kind of what's going to happen to Sue, right,

877
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: That's that's how it works. But I mean, I'm it's

878
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: it's weird when you see that out of a guy

879
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: like him, because I've never seen that before. Every time

880
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: he's on the field, he's the guy wrecking, you know

881
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's odd from this angle, but

882
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: I would bet, and this is football, at some point

883
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: you'll see that change. So it would be a great

884
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: time on Sunday for that to happen. Well, he did

885
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: have six tackles in the last game against Everywhere, probably

886
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: tried to get a scoop and score where he could

887
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: have just fallen on the balls. Where I always fight

888
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: with Maurice Jones Drew. He always thinks you should scoop

889
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: every fumble and try to take it to the house. No,

890
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: because if you don't recover that fumble, then you don't

891
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: even have the opportunity to give your offense, with one

892
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: of the most explosive offenses in the League's the most

893
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: important thing when there's a loose ball, the ball possession,

894
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: give it back to your team. Yes, right, if you

895
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: have a chance to scoop by all means be Samson

896
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: e becom score. Yeah, had fun, but first and foremost,

897
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: get the ball back, right, right. Well, he's only had

898
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: a half sack and that came against in that win

899
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: against Seattle back in week ten. But the last sack

900
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: he got was also against Seattle in week five, and

901
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: that was a string where he had three three games

902
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: with a sack in row. So my favorite tape other

903
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: than Donald is his Yeah. Yeah, So every game there's

904
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: he's affecting. He's he's there, he's the guy you putting

905
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: up the numbers. So this is also new sure. Yeah, Well,

906
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of ways where

907
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Sue has been influencing and affecting a Sean mcvayh likes

908
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: to say the different plays that have gone on. It's

909
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: just but from that position, the nose tackle in the

910
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: three four, you're not gonna put up numbers. It's not

911
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: a numbers and he's not just playing. There's he's playing everywhere.

912
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: They're asking on him play left end, right end, So

913
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 1: he's got to do a lot of things and he's

914
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: playing it well. But I'm just not used to seeing

915
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: Sue out there not being the guy putting up numbers.

916
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: That's that's the shocking thing. Yeah, what is it with

917
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: barn you know, coming back, he's working. You know, I

918
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: think the defense as a whole has had trouble with

919
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: tight ends. You can go all the way back to Oakland. Yeah, yeah,

920
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: we saw that starting in week one. Yeah, so for

921
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: the most part, where are they catching it, Well, that's

922
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: going to be in their area or they're going to

923
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: be attacking that part of the field where they occupy.

924
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: So it is what it is this year. But you know, usually,

925
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: and I heard this from Kellen Winslow, senior senior. Yeah,

926
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: that's not the one that got in the motorcycle accident.

927
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: Senior the Browns. Actually he was the number six overall

928
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: pick or seventh overall pick. Kellen Winslow came up to

929
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: Seattle and spent a week with us. It was awesome

930
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: when you stated my place. Wow, Yeah, it was awesome.

931
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: When you're in college in college, and we talked about

932
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: football right the in between period I was turning prou

933
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: so we talked about football a lot, and we He

934
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: used to always joke the tight ends always open, you know,

935
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: and they are for the most part. But the fastest

936
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: outlet to get rid of the football is usually that guy,

937
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: especially when you're being pressured. Well, what do the rams do?

938
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Well they get pressure. Yeah, so the ball's coming out

939
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: to that tight end quickly. So no secret, no shock

940
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: as to why tight ends are hurting this football team.

941
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: But for the most part, when they do attack, the

942
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: guys that are making tackles or are usually within five

943
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: yards of the football are your inside linebackers. That's just

944
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: the way it is. Yes, all right, Well let's let's

945
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: turn it further to the Chicago Bears. It looks like

946
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky another Northeastern Ohio guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, from

947
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: mentor to mean something. Yeah for me, I'm sorry, I

948
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. No, yeah, it was tough.

949
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: I love football. Cleveland area, okay, straight out of Northeastern. Yeah,

950
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know Northeast Ohio. I'm asking were not from

951
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: the same town. Basically, he's a Cleveland guys, m Cleland,

952
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to know what that means. Northeast Ohio is

953
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: where Cleveland is. Okayahoga County, Baby, what does that mean?

954
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: It means that I have some pride in whatever. So

955
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: you grew up in the same area. Yes, we did

956
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: grow up in the same area. Didn't just say that? Then? Okay?

957
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, Okay, yeah, he will probably be back.

958
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: He's missed the last two games with the shoulder injury,

959
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: and so okay, I'll just do this. So here's why

960
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: I said Northeast Ohio because I would have just said

961
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland guy, right, because you would have known what that meant.

962
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: But I have this friend who is always like, you

963
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: didn't grow up in Cleveland, you grew up in Shaker Heights,

964
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: so you should say Shaker Hights. Like I'll just say

965
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Northeast Ohio territorial exactly. It doesn't make any sense. I'm

966
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: just gonna say Cleveland from now on, everybody. And that's

967
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: exactly why I do it. See everybody's set See that

968
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: proves everybody they do it. They all do. They set

969
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: trip where you're from. You're not from here, You're from there,

970
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: like it's the same area. Man is like it's it's Cleveland,

971
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: like it's across the street. It just it is what

972
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: it is. And I realized it's not Cleveland proper. But

973
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: goodness gracious, right. My point is Mitchell Trubisky really good

974
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: young quarterback. You pare him with Matt Naggi, another good

975
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: young offensive mind. There's a lot of parallels to the

976
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Ram situation from last year, as you've got these upstart bears,

977
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, trying to compete for this division title. Dangerous man. Um,

978
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's he's fast, he's quick, he's got a

979
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: good release. I mean, he's he's a quarterback on the rise.

980
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: You will be get used to say in his name

981
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: for the most for sure, Yeah, I mean for however

982
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: that run turns out in Chicago. Um, he's going to

983
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: be every bit the part of it. Now, long way

984
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: to go, right, Um. I remember when they said the

985
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: same thing about Tannehill in Miami or this guy here

986
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: or that guy there, Adam Right, But as of right now,

987
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: he's he's playing pretty good football and he's getting better.

988
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: So he's a tough out. It's gonna be tough. And

989
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: he's he's young, he's he's healthy and he can run. Yes, yeah,

990
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: well I gives anybody trouble this time of year. Absolutely.

991
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a full participant in Wednesday's practice.

992
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm their first first practice of the week, first time

993
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: he has not been limited since suffering that shoulder injury

994
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I'm again he's missed the

995
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: last two games, but by all accounts, he looks like

996
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: he is definitely on track to play. Yeah, so the

997
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Rams are gonna have to really prepare for that. It's

998
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: not like they're gonna see Chase Daniel no, Um, but

999
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: be prepared. You never know. Yeah, yeah, and the offense

1000
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: doesn't change. I think, you know, Daniel just presents different

1001
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: problems within it. So I don't think Daniel runs as

1002
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: much as true whiskey. Now Whiskey leads, I believe. I

1003
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: don't say I don't think I'm saying this wrong, but

1004
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: I believe he leads the league in terms of quarterbacks

1005
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: and rushing yards. But it's funny, Um, you're right, he

1006
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: does run, but I think he freezes the defense nonetheless,

1007
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: because his play fakes are good. He's really good at

1008
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: running this sort of offense. Yes, yeah, he just doesn't

1009
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: run it as much, but you still have to honor it, right, Yeah,

1010
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: right right. How would you classify a guy like Tarik Cohen? Modern? Huh? Yeah,

1011
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: a modern approach to football. I think everyone's gonna look

1012
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: for a Kamara type. There's a Kamara type mismatch. You know,

1013
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: it's all about matchups. You hear that a thousand times,

1014
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: but it really is. If they put a little fast

1015
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: guy out there that's a dual threat. A guy that

1016
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: can run the ball between the tackles so you have

1017
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: to play it honest, and a guy that can hit

1018
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: you out of the backfield and really be dangerous out there.

1019
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Is they're invaluable and when they have one, they're tough

1020
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: to stop, especially with a quarterback that can get it

1021
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: there or a coach that's creative enough to get him

1022
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: the ball in space. Yes, and that's if we always

1023
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: used to hear this about Tavon Austin when he was here.

1024
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: You know, boy, the biggest point thing we want to

1025
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: do is get this guy the ball in space because

1026
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: of what he can do with it. He has ball

1027
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: in his hands, and that I think Trike Cohen is.

1028
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't not to put anybody down, but like Tret

1029
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: Cohen is really the better embodiment of that. You know

1030
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yeah, because like you're you're actually seeing

1031
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: it with him. Where he's get He gets one hundred

1032
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: and fifty some yards receiving yes last week on twelve receptions,

1033
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: and keeps putting them in position to do good things,

1034
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: no doubt um And what I mean Kamara type, I

1035
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: meant no disrespects because he's really a Sprowls type. I

1036
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: just saw Darren Sprowls do it again, like when I

1037
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: saw him score this past Monday. That was a weird

1038
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: Monday night game like battle of the old running backs.

1039
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: But remember when he used to be like and at

1040
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: one point it always seemed when it turned to December,

1041
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: he was the most dangerous guy on the field. Absolutely, Yeah,

1042
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: that's what this guy Cohen is right now. He is

1043
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: that dangerous. If you make a mistake, it's gone. Yes, Yes,

1044
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: also dangerous. The Bears defense and what they've been doing

1045
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: in terms of takeaways is ridiculous. Year thirty total takeaways

1046
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: that leads the league. Twenty one interceptions. Oh, don't make

1047
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: a mistake. There are some parking gates. You can run

1048
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: right through those little plywood parking gates if it drops

1049
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: on your car, dent scratch that you drive through it

1050
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: flying in pieces. Now, this is a metal gate that

1051
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: will swing and knock you. Yes, that hell out. Yes,

1052
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack is a problem, huge problem. He's an issue. Yeah,

1053
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: you better respect that. Yes. Yeah. I just saw it

1054
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: on one of those nat geo's um This one alligator

1055
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: handler was trained in another and he was telling, look,

1056
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: I've been with this alligator for like ten years and

1057
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: he still respects the hell out of it. Yeah, because

1058
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: if you relax at any point, it's going to have you. Yes,

1059
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: he doesn't care for lunch. That's Mac. Yeah, it's it's

1060
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: going to be painful when he gets there. It's this

1061
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: trade has been so I guess consequential because you know,

1062
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: you talk about how the Bears were coming into this season,

1063
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: and they were probably have had a very good defense anyway,

1064
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: but I think putting Mac on that unit has helped

1065
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: them go from very good too great. Well, this is

1066
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: funny the intersection between these two guys, Donald and him,

1067
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: because the Rams did the right thing, the Raiders kind

1068
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: of blew it. He's a transformative player, No crap, That's

1069
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is why. Yeah, it's gonna hurt. Okay,

1070
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to tie up that much money in

1071
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: that position, but look what he does for you. Yeah,

1072
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: he kind of changes a lot. He changes everything, well,

1073
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: he doesn't, and he does it all the right way.

1074
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: You've never heard a bad word about Khalil Mack at all.

1075
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: It's just the same as you hear about Aaron Donald,

1076
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, you have guys,

1077
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: it's not the problem, right. Yeah, when you have guys

1078
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: who come in, they do it the right way, They

1079
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: give their all, they do nothing but perform for you.

1080
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that you want to reward. And

1081
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: it's nice to see both of those guys get rewarded

1082
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: and continue to do what they're doing, and not only that,

1083
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: get better. It's a lesson, man. I mean, you need

1084
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: to always have yourself in position so you don't let

1085
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: guys like that get out the door. Right. You know.

1086
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: I would hate to pass up the best deal of

1087
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: my life because I was a little bit short, you

1088
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I would hate that. Oh my god,

1089
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: if I didn't if I didn't prepare well right, and

1090
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: then it drops into my lap and I can't hang

1091
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: onto it. Yes, yeah, that would drive me nuts, Yeah

1092
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: for sure. But I think you got a credit Matt

1093
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Nagie for keeping Vic Fangio around. Yeah. Yeah, because he

1094
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: had already had the foundations of that defense in place.

1095
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: But it was funny talking to Naggie on the conference call,

1096
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: like I asked him, you know what led you to

1097
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: keeping Fangio and basically said, you know, you know Fangio's reputation. Yeah,

1098
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: it's just you're not sure how you're going to fit

1099
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: with terms of the personality and different things like that.

1100
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: See you sit down with him when you get hired,

1101
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: you you realize that you vibe with them immediately and

1102
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: you just go from there. Wade Phillips, if this was

1103
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings, would he be Gandolfe Phillips Yeah,

1104
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean just like the Supreme Wizard. Well, Vic Fangio

1105
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: is like one of the other ones. Yeah. Yeah, he's

1106
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: been around a long time. He knows this league too. Yeah,

1107
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: he knows the entire field and how to defend it yep,

1108
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: and how you're trying to attack. He's seen it before.

1109
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: So he's that's the type of guy you have on

1110
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: your team and you're on your coaching staff, right, and

1111
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: your circle of trust. He knows, like you said, he

1112
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: knows football, yes, yes, And but when you're when you're

1113
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: facing a team with twenty one total interceptions Kyle Fuller

1114
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: leading the league with six picks, you've got to be

1115
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: aware of that. Jared's goff said this week. You know,

1116
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: I gotta be aware of it. But it's not like

1117
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: just like you got to be aware of where Khalil

1118
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: Mack is, but you can't change your approach. To me,

1119
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: that's a it's a direct correlation. Khalil Mack and this

1120
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: team has the most peaks in the picks in the

1121
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: league because I bet half of those are old blank throws.

1122
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen some of them out

1123
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: of the hand and it's like oh no, yeah yeah,

1124
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: he's like he's bringing smoke off the edge or they

1125
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: just flat with and the ball's got to come out fast,

1126
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: right yeah, right before the receiver's ready. All right, any

1127
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: final thoughts here? No, that was that was a nice one. Yeah,

1128
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: you were nice, little bit. Yeah, it's cool. Ready for

1129
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: Chicago though, Man, it's gonna be fun. Check the episode dumb. Yeah,

1130
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: you'll understand what I'm referring to. Anyway, Okay, thank you

1131
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: so much for tuning into this edition of Between the Horns,

1132
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: DeMarco and I will see you from RAM for RAMS

1133
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: Pregame Live. It'll be on the field, gosh, probably four

1134
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: forty four forty five Pacific time. That'll be sixty six

1135
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: forty five local. We will be cold. We will be cold.

1136
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: I will be bundled up. It's the RAMS first Sunday

1137
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: night game since Week seventeen back in two thousand and ten.

1138
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Love it, Yeah, I love it. It's gonna be good

1139
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: an environment. Back then, they still had faith. He'll doing

1140
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: the song what's that supposed to be? I like you

1141
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: better sign out, man, I like the faith Hill. I

1142
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: hate myself from loving for loving your remakes? All right, everybody,

1143
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: be sure to check out also the new podcast RAMS revealed.

1144
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: That's with JB. Long and then Andrew Whitworth and John Johnson.

1145
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: That is our new player podcast, good stuff, about twenty

1146
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: minutes long. You'll be able to get that in on

1147
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: your commute. Other wise, we will see you on Sunday.

1148
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend and a great one everybody,