WEBVTT - SPICY MARI - From Crumbs to Chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Holy Wit, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests, relationship expert and magn Magnetic Matchmaker Matchmaker Spicy

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<v Speaker 1>Moday exactly. She just did my whole intro for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm helping you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Down here so much, Spicy Life. Yes, and you also

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<v Speaker 1>have a podcast called The Life Life Yes. Yes. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you say Matchmaker, you're just out here. Just someone

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<v Speaker 1>calls you and you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a process, it's a program, so like I take

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<v Speaker 2>you for ninety days and transform your life. So I

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<v Speaker 2>have an entire curriculum program that we're doing. There's just

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<v Speaker 2>video and audio, but like actual assessments that we're taking

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<v Speaker 2>so that I can help you become the best version

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<v Speaker 2>of yourself to be aligned with your purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Mate, got it? Okay, So it's not like I have

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<v Speaker 1>a pool of men.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. But you aren't being introduced until after you

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<v Speaker 2>do the work. Because if you if I just take

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<v Speaker 2>you cold off of the street based on everything that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been exposed to, when you've been experiencing and you

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<v Speaker 2>think that you're just gonna snap into recognizing and realizing

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<v Speaker 2>that this person is the one it doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to find out where the wounds are, where

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<v Speaker 2>the strengths and weaknesses are. I do a whole little

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<v Speaker 2>swat analysis, and then we get to work so that

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<v Speaker 2>that way, when he is presented in front of you,

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<v Speaker 2>you now can recognize him and accept him, and you

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<v Speaker 2>then are aligned. But if I just try to go

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<v Speaker 2>cold turkey, you will not have a match because you're

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<v Speaker 2>already on a certain vibration. So I need to disrupt

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<v Speaker 2>that wavelength.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, And I'll teach you how to fish so

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<v Speaker 2>that you can feed yourself, because Heaven forbid something happens

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Now, then you have the tools to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to guide the male psyche.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're doing all that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing all that psycho behavioral. If you do it

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I do it for men as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a lot of men that come to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I do. And the other element that you often see

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<v Speaker 2>is me working with couples, except that we are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to heal and repair the relationship. But I'll also be

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<v Speaker 2>very honest when they should not be together and they

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<v Speaker 2>belong with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you say that, Now, what if a like a

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<v Speaker 1>significant other hires you and says hey, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to save my marriage, and you get them in a

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<v Speaker 1>room and.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, You're like, oh yeah, this hate Now I

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<v Speaker 2>see why you guys are having problems. It's my goals

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<v Speaker 2>for you guys to say together. My goal is always

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<v Speaker 2>for relationship. I'm always on team love. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care who's wrong or right. If it's not aligned with

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<v Speaker 2>the purpose and the mission, which is to restore the

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<v Speaker 2>family unit, then I can't get with it. Everything has

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to the goal, which is to restore

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship and have a healthy relationship. If we're not,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're making choices that aren't healthy, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>get we got to get to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So before we get into the love world, take

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<v Speaker 1>me back to what was going on. I'm guessing before, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>for the company before, before the spicy life. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna have me eating today? We're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>eating my spicy toast? Spicy toast? Yes, okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>simple ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got butter, cinnamon, that's where the spice comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>With the sugar okay, okay, the and hard boiled eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta have a little protein. In there to balance it crops.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this was a real deal. Holy day.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I made to feed my family.

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<v Speaker 1>So feed your family.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say by that is anyone who's the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest child. Okay, you guys should understand this. As the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest we then take on some of the prayerent to

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<v Speaker 2>roll responsibility, right, even though we're extremely young. And I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in a single parent home, and come Mother's Day,

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<v Speaker 2>I still keep my siblings up, like are we celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>me or what you're practically raised?

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious. Is your mom still around?

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<v Speaker 2>Dish?

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is okay, okay, and you still say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>give me my giving.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom's a disagreement. My mom's you didn't do anything,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I raised your children.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's what I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's my spicy and I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I took my kids to call my kids. I took

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<v Speaker 2>my siblings to school, I said them. And so at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, of course, I'm like eight years old when

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<v Speaker 2>my sister was born, and I don't necessarily know how

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<v Speaker 2>to use like all of the dishes and all the

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<v Speaker 2>pots and pans and stuff, so I kept it simple.

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<v Speaker 2>I was good at toast, and my cinnamon toast crunch

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<v Speaker 2>is now my spicy toast, which my son now gets

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy. Okay, okay, okay, good, But my siblings tease

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<v Speaker 2>me all the time, but like, you didn't cook for us,

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<v Speaker 2>the toast doesn't count. I'm like, yes it does. You

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<v Speaker 2>did you die?

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<v Speaker 1>You live? How many siblings did you have?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the oldest of three oldest yeah, two siblings, a

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<v Speaker 2>brother and a sister, and I'm the oldest, and the

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<v Speaker 2>age gap is eight years eight and eleven, eight and eleven, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And like back then, it was not abnormal for your

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<v Speaker 2>eight year old up until to watch the kids and

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<v Speaker 2>be left by yourself. And so I was a latchkey kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I had to figure out. My mom liked

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<v Speaker 2>to prepare leftovers, and so we ate like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those, and I would warm those up. But my

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<v Speaker 2>go to dish was always like the spicies with some

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<v Speaker 2>hard boiled eggs because I could boil eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>And were you like the in house babysitter a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all the time, all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever snap back at her like and your

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<v Speaker 1>t ain't my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>No, huh, so my mother would have thrown me against

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<v Speaker 2>the wall. Yeah, but yes, there were conversations had that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just dang, I don't want to, like why

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<v Speaker 2>do I have to? And it was very much like this

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<v Speaker 2>is your responsibility and she's the baby of six. So

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes there would be that like energy clash. So you

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<v Speaker 2>were the baby of six, I'm those of three. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand it, you don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have these conversations like now in our maturity

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<v Speaker 2>and our evolution of us in our relationship, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>been like a lot of healing and repair around my

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<v Speaker 2>childhood perceptions and where she could have showed up differently

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<v Speaker 2>or I could have showed up differently. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, all of the stereotypes about the

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<v Speaker 2>eldest child remain true for me. Okay for sure, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, go ahead, feed me oldest child. You want me

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, friend, go for it. We pre boiled spicy bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to infhaty size of your name because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been working on the spicy moddies. We pre boiled your

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<v Speaker 1>hard boiled eggs. I'm guessing we could just peel it right,

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<v Speaker 1>we could just peel it. I'll just I'll work on mine,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I think, is it.

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<v Speaker 2>So how hard we had? Yes, we gotta have a song, poker.

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<v Speaker 1>Salt and pepper. I've had a hard boiled egg and

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<v Speaker 1>so long. The last thing we had a hard boiled

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<v Speaker 1>egg on this show was very traumatizing. Why because the

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<v Speaker 1>young lady chose a pickled egg. And let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something. It like, to this day, I don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at eggs the same because of that pickled egg. It's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to traumatize me. So let's see if the trauma

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<v Speaker 1>still lingers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because I love it when I tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>I eat probably for eggs a day, really a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of protein.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, you look stunny. It looks stunning.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>So is your mom still single mom?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's the origin story, right, single parent home.

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<v Speaker 2>Grew up with a deep desire for a father. Early on,

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<v Speaker 2>my father went to is't and I didn't know like

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<v Speaker 2>drug dealer goes to prison. But all I knew was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I deserve a daddy. What's going on mom? With your

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<v Speaker 2>love life? So I started to intentionally introduce her to

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<v Speaker 2>men because I would see my mother's like reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>guys being in her life. She was very young, she

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<v Speaker 2>was hot. My mom had me when she was twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was this energy of wanting to still be

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<v Speaker 2>married and I felt that from her, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a daddy. I noticed how poor you were. I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>the other kids had two parents, and I really felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I deserve that. So I would go up to

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<v Speaker 2>men in the gas station at the car wash at

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<v Speaker 2>my school pitching my mom and me as like a

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<v Speaker 2>great package, like how a cute?

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<v Speaker 1>I am you fabulous? But I'm pretty sure looking at you,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom had to she had to beat them off

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was a soul trained dancer, okay, so she

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<v Speaker 2>gave up her career for me. But like she my

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<v Speaker 2>mom was a hottie okay, and so definitely would be

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sell the package. Because also to when my

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<v Speaker 2>mom was in a reallyationship, we had more, we had

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<v Speaker 2>more resources, toys, more food, So she did get in

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<v Speaker 2>other relationships. My mom was married three times.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I like to say that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the credit for that, but my mom saw it

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<v Speaker 2>to all the husbands because when you are I consider

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<v Speaker 2>people with big hearts. Right, we're still products. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I understood at a very young age that like, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to seal this deal. Yeah, And I was accustomed

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<v Speaker 2>to the men understanding how close we were. And also

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<v Speaker 2>when they would court my mom, they would also court me.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I mean and not in a negative way,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, is a very positive way in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense of if they brought her flowers, they brought me flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>If they got her a gift, they would come with

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<v Speaker 2>something for me. And so it was very much, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I like how this feels. I understand why my mom

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<v Speaker 2>is into this. And I kept doing it over and over,

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<v Speaker 2>like I kept introducing her to people over and over

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<v Speaker 2>because I just saw how happy she was relationship and

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<v Speaker 2>that did something for me the credit of dang, I

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<v Speaker 2>helped you with that relationship. And I was young. When

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you I was young.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me an idea of how young you are. I

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<v Speaker 1>was pitching her at six, Oh, you're really young.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mom has been married three times, she was

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<v Speaker 2>divorced when before sixth grade she got a divorce, and

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<v Speaker 2>that last divorce, I was like, we need to make

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<v Speaker 2>this work somehow. But since then, my mother, of course

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<v Speaker 2>has had like other boyfriends. But my whole purpose arose

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<v Speaker 2>from plugging her in relationships and seeing how it changes

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<v Speaker 2>you and seeing the negative and the positive from it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she saw that I also had a gift and

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<v Speaker 2>like this propensity to try to connect, and I kept

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<v Speaker 2>doing it throughout high school. I would plug my friends. College,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you need to study this. Oh, so

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<v Speaker 2>you see Berkeley from there, and I too always had

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<v Speaker 2>a boyfriend. Like I loved relationships, but that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't just be obsessed with relationships. Actually need to

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<v Speaker 2>understand and have strategy and the tools in order for

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<v Speaker 2>it to be healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw in your bile there's a it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a certification or I didn't even know there was

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<v Speaker 1>like a school for relationships, but in your bio it

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<v Speaker 1>said something like.

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<v Speaker 2>That in communication studied not just women's studies. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to Spelman as well and studied women's studies. That's shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to Akamupie. And then in my undergrad I did

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<v Speaker 2>communication and that was where I realized the breakdown between

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<v Speaker 2>men and women. Okay, And then in my I went

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<v Speaker 2>on to get my masters in communication as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>that dealt more with like me understanding not just how

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<v Speaker 2>male and men and women communicate, but also how technology

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<v Speaker 2>plays a role in our lack of intimacy or can

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<v Speaker 2>expand and help it. And so everything that I did

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<v Speaker 2>in my master's was actually to build the spicy life.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw the problems that we were having in relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>a spicy life grew into more of a not just

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<v Speaker 2>let me match make it grew into no, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>need coaching. So I took psychology, sociology and then went

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<v Speaker 2>on to get certified as a dating coach. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that, and then marital counseling from Gotman Institute.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, so there's a certification for that.

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<v Speaker 2>You. Yes, there are certifications for any area that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to become more of an expert. And I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>huge proponent of It's one thing to have lived experience,

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<v Speaker 2>another thing to have education. With those two combined, you're

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<v Speaker 2>more powerful versus I just read a book. No, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But I also applied the tools and then manifested that

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But you knew from a very young age, from this

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<v Speaker 1>age of toast and eggs, that this is your colic.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew in the sense of I knew that I was

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<v Speaker 2>good at it. I didn't know that it was my gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom brought that to my attention one time in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I came home and, like I said, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>much poor. She doesn't like me to say poor. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she prefers me to say or not use poverty.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it poor versus broke? My mom prefers broke. Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom says we were broke, we weren't poor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's my mom too, Patato, there's a difference. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to clarify the difference because I like the

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<v Speaker 1>way my mom says it. Broke is temporary. Poor is

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<v Speaker 1>more long term. So if you say, okay, I'm broke

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Okay, I'm broke right now, But if you

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm poor, it's like your destitute, almost like past

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<v Speaker 1>future current you're poor. Yeah, to for broke is more

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<v Speaker 1>like the way my mom positions broke is always like

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<v Speaker 1>a temporary So that's that was her whole thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're broke right now, but if you say you're poor,

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<v Speaker 1>just seems to have a little bit more of a longer.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom is on your team. Okay, poor versus broke.

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<v Speaker 2>She was broke, but I'm like, we only were not

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<v Speaker 2>broke when or poor, which when she was married. The

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<v Speaker 2>moment that, like the relationship was over, it was back

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<v Speaker 2>to the streets. We were living with my aunty. We

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<v Speaker 2>moved in and this was in seventh grade. We moved

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<v Speaker 2>in with my aunty and me and my siblings, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had to take care of them, and my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was living in San Diego. We're living in San Clementy

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<v Speaker 2>on the marine base because my aunt was married and

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<v Speaker 2>in the trailer. We lived in a trailer with her

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<v Speaker 2>and my siblings, and so I was with them every

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<v Speaker 2>single day, making sure they got up for school, that

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<v Speaker 2>they were going down because my aunt had her six

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<v Speaker 2>kids to take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>So the there's a lot to unpack cares. Yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>how did these breakups impact you? Because I gain the

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<v Speaker 1>love and the highs, But how did the lows not

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<v Speaker 1>have a negative impact on you?

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<v Speaker 2>They absolutely did, tons of daddy issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, so here's to the healthier version. I

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<v Speaker 1>love me.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the yolk, that's your favorite part. I love

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<v Speaker 2>it all. So like I could do egg whites, I

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<v Speaker 2>can also do the yolk. I'm like, I'm just an

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<v Speaker 2>egg person, really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect, is just your third egg today? Yes, it's mine too.

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<v Speaker 2>You already.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, we're on the same look the same two

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<v Speaker 1>eggs and three pieces of bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>And I probably wind up having another egg later with

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<v Speaker 2>my salad or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to do.

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<v Speaker 2>When I tell you, one time I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>lose weight, I did a meat, cheese an egg diet.

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<v Speaker 2>You only can eat meat, you can only eat geese

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<v Speaker 2>and eggs for three months, right, I lost so many bounds.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end, you start to incorporate vegetables, and which

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<v Speaker 2>is crazy to not eat vegetables and fruit in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>even but they want to drop your blood sugar and

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<v Speaker 2>so I lost a lot of weight. But it's not

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<v Speaker 2>sustainable for the rest of your life. Is not sustainable.

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<v Speaker 2>But I lost a lot of weight. I lost a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of weight.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm ever going on vacation, I'm gonna try that

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<v Speaker 1>all right. For the cinnamon toast, We're only doing one bite.

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<v Speaker 1>You only took a little cute, little bite out of

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<v Speaker 1>your egg.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to eat more my egg?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm gonna I tell people. When people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you, I'm like, like a real person.

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<v Speaker 2>Your clips was like, oh, it's the food.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there's sometimes where we have to call cut and like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna finish this. Yeah, all right, We're going in

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<v Speaker 1>for the cinnamon toast. Butter cinnamon toast.

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<v Speaker 2>Right here, I'm gonna take a bite with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when you was a kid, you laced

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<v Speaker 1>this way better than this I did.

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<v Speaker 2>But now that I know the calories are butter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, because I know if I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't, I wasn't help conscious till seventh grade when I

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<v Speaker 2>got my brass off. Okay, rereason being is because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give you all the whole backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>You better.

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<v Speaker 2>The one common thing between my mom and her husband's

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom give infermission to share the intimate details

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<v Speaker 2>of our lives, is that they all were addicts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My said that at the time when he would drink,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go to the liquor store with him and

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<v Speaker 2>we would pick up his six packs, and he would

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<v Speaker 2>always give me candy bars, and I got in the

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<v Speaker 2>habit of expecting a candy bar every day because he

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<v Speaker 2>was getting a six pack every day, So it gain's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of weight. I was a jimpy kid. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when I got my braces off though, because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to eat nuts and Carmen who have bracelets. The

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<v Speaker 2>weight came off when I stopped eating all that candy.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when I took the braces off, I lost

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<v Speaker 2>the weight and then the boobies came out. I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>not only does this look better, but y'all treat me

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<v Speaker 2>different when I'm twenty pounds smaller than when. That was

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<v Speaker 2>like the first time that I noticed. Okay, when I

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<v Speaker 2>cut sugars and this was young, I'm like, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>kid at this point, but I was like, dang, the

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<v Speaker 2>way that the boys weren't on me. I was like, Ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>I like this attention. I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing this no wonder my mom is addicted to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was ben opening, I opening moment.

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<v Speaker 1>For me until this day.

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<v Speaker 2>I do a different diet every other month.

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<v Speaker 1>And you definitely stay away from the sugars.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, okay, to lose the weight, I stay away from

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<v Speaker 2>the sugars. But the reason why I have to go

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<v Speaker 2>back on the diet is is I still have a

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<v Speaker 2>bad relationship with food.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you do have a bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I have one more than likely. Body image just morephia

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<v Speaker 2>a paper that I wrote in college, I diagnose myself

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<v Speaker 2>like based on my studies, I have body image just

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<v Speaker 2>more for. But my relationship with food still is the

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<v Speaker 2>same in this sense of when I look in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 2>I still see a big girl that when as a

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<v Speaker 2>kid in my elementary days, and then when I gain weight,

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<v Speaker 2>it reminds me of, oh, I'm not necessarily I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel my clothes appropriately, I don't feel as confident as usual,

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<v Speaker 2>and so me understanding the power that it has over me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a process in the sense of I understand that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to love ourselves through it. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that when I'm overweight I look my best, So you

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<v Speaker 2>can't change the belief. Yeah, So instead, okay, let me

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<v Speaker 2>program myself to do the healthy thing. I go to

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<v Speaker 2>the health the habit if I can't change the belief

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<v Speaker 2>that I have about when I'm big.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that understand that's yeah, But that's great. That sounds healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a healthy way to handle it, a healthy, responsible versus.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to accept as I am and continue

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<v Speaker 2>to eat whatever I want. If and so there can

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<v Speaker 2>there's different ways that it can go the way that

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<v Speaker 2>it transfer overs into relationship as well, because I tell

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<v Speaker 2>my clients the same thing when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>belief system is if you believe that, let's just say

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<v Speaker 2>all men are trash, or don't love women, or they're

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<v Speaker 2>all dogs, then you will behave in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>serves that belief.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be kind to them.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to treat them with the same level of

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<v Speaker 2>respect that you think they treat you. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be stands offish, and you're not going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>magnet for the thing that you're trying to attract insteader

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<v Speaker 2>of going to be a magnet for the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>you hate, the thing that you say that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid. Okay, I can't make I can't transform that

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<v Speaker 2>belief until we unpack why we believe that. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the root of that perspective, like what

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<v Speaker 2>form that belief, what's at the root of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I have to give you a behavior that proves

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<v Speaker 2>that belief wrong. Okay, So what that would look like

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<v Speaker 2>is if let's just say you think the men are trash. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's put ourselves in an environment and experience a kind man,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind man will help you shift the belief because

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<v Speaker 2>now you will have an experience that makes a deposit

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<v Speaker 2>into the positive belief bank, or.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you give him that experience?

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<v Speaker 2>So we're redoing your dating profiles. I'm taking you out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're hunting right, I'm going with you as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your wing woman, and I'm helping you actually, like figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to communicate with them effectively. We are going

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<v Speaker 2>to events, We're going like you name it, We're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going through not just my rolodex, but we're reaching out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're asking friends, we are tapping into our network the

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<v Speaker 2>same way you would with I need a job, Does

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<v Speaker 2>anybody have one? We're doing the same thing when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to a man, Wow, I have to make those

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<v Speaker 2>positive deposits in there, and that's or I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be able to change the belief. So for my chest

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<v Speaker 2>and my carbs and all that, it's the same thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the positive deposits that I can make to make

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<v Speaker 2>me feel better about the thing that I'm trying to manifest.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like it makes a lot of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>The family has been a huge part of my now

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<v Speaker 2>my graziness.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back, let's talk about these breakups and how that

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<v Speaker 1>acted you and what that did. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw growing up unhealthy relationships, multuous relationships where my

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<v Speaker 2>mother was treated well in the beginning and then mistreated

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<v Speaker 2>when the manhatter or their true nature came out. So

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<v Speaker 2>that impacted me in a way that you would think

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<v Speaker 2>that I would have a disdain for men.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it did not.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, I was like, that's not going to be me

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<v Speaker 2>until my naivity. I got in a relationship in seventh

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<v Speaker 2>grade with gentleman Roy, wind up seeing him kiss someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is what became what that is the moment

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<v Speaker 2>when I decided I was going to be a gangster

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward with me? Okay, So then there was this

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<v Speaker 2>shift that occurred. It wasn't my daddy's that made the shift.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually it was Roy. I've talked him in years,

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<v Speaker 2>but Roy was the first person to ever cheat on

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<v Speaker 2>me and betray me. And in that moment, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I will never be hurt like this again. So it

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<v Speaker 2>took me into my wounded feminine. The wounded feminine felt

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<v Speaker 2>weak and I didn't like the way that felt. So

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<v Speaker 2>in order to empower myself, I leaned into my wounded masculine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I want to yeah, because that's what is

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<v Speaker 1>the gangster you. I want to know what that the

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<v Speaker 1>gangs to me is.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't love these os, so I would. I was

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<v Speaker 2>dating and this is high school, right like I was

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<v Speaker 2>still this is in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Was high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I was still a virgin. In high school, I did

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<v Speaker 2>it was with my virginity until twenty one. I played

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of men's hearts. I was a tease.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a flirt.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my best friends also, let me know, you

0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 2>can't invest in these men like you need to do

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 2>you the men will be there. And because I was

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<v Speaker 2>a straight A student, I was like, oh, okay, I

0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 2>could get these good grades. I can have you take

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<v Speaker 2>me out. But then there's this moment where one of

0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.199
<v Speaker 2>the dudes who I was player, he had bombed a

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<v Speaker 2>diamond necklace and I brought it home to my mom

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, look at this necklace he got me

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.879
<v Speaker 2>and it was like zails, but like still I'm in

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 2>high school. My mom was like, how did you get

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.439
<v Speaker 2>because she knows I'm a virgion. My mom knows everything

0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.120
<v Speaker 2>about me. So she was like, how did you get

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 2>this dude to get you this diamond necklace. I was like,

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I just told him that he wanted some jewelry and

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 2>he got me this. And she was like, Okay, I'm

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 2>not even gonna ask where it came from and how

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 2>he got it, because y'all are in high school, she said,

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 2>But I do know that you have a gift. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the ability to connect with people and also

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:30.880
<v Speaker 2>guide them, and that means that I need to guide

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 2>this energy appropriately. She was like, you can use your

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 2>gift for good or you can use it for evil.

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:36.800
<v Speaker 2>She was like, and if I would have stayed with

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 2>your father, you would have probably been the best madam

0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 2>in the world. But I didn't stay with him for

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 2>a specific reason. So I need you to make sure

0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:46.640
<v Speaker 2>that you were using your gifts for good.

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:53.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you understand you had a swagger type pit mentality, right.

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what can we get because I also

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.160
<v Speaker 2>remember I'm also seeing like when I was little with her,

0:21:58.160 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 2>we would get gifts into this, so I'm just playing

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<v Speaker 2>not what I saw my mom receiving and experiencing. But

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't necessarily a healthy mind yet. She was like,

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I need you to educate yourself, empower yourself so that

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you're not dependent on these men, because she saw my

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.159
<v Speaker 2>self esteem was also affected by it, and so I

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 2>wasn't aware enough in high school to understand we weren't

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about mental health and esteem at that point. She

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 2>just recognized certain traits that also flowed from her to me,

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, you're gonna be either a dog

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 2>or a lover of men, or you're gonna abuse these powers.

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And my mom was a hopeless romantic and she didn't

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>want me to feel like men had all of the control.

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:35.360
<v Speaker 2>So she was like, go to college, be the first

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.680
<v Speaker 2>to go to college, blah blah blah. And I did,

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and college had a relationship. Wasn't the most honest with

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.560
<v Speaker 2>this person in college? You?

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you weren't.

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 2>Like the dog was still okay, I was still her.

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Ray sent me on a trajectory and so that getting

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 2>caught right like accidentally at the time. Emailed my boyfriend

0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 2>an email out somebody who's going to come visit me

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 2>at college for the weekend. And I was and I

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.360
<v Speaker 2>saw I hit him up. I'm like, please don't open

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:05.880
<v Speaker 2>that email. Please don't open.

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.879
<v Speaker 1>After you sent it, and it was supposed to be

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to someone else.

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to be in response to the dude

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 2>who was coming to visit me, and I accidentally sent

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 2>it to the boyfriend at the time. Yeah, I told you, mind,

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 2>you still hadn't slept with any of these men. I

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 2>don't how graphic can we get on here?

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, had done, had done the everything else right, all

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the other elements of intimacy, but still not sex. I

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 2>still wind up losing it to this gentleman who you

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>sent this email?

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<v Speaker 1>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I lost it to the boyfriend at the time

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to make sure that I lost it

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 2>to somebody who I loved, who treated me, and even

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 2>though I mistreated him, I felt I wasn't going to

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 2>be able to wait till marriage. I knew I wasn't

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a wait's marriage, and so I still felt

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>like we needed to share this intimacy while we still

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 2>have the safety there.

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>That relationship also, plus my studies understand and think that

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 2>in my twenties, the trajectory that I was going down,

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Although I'm out here like setting relationships, setting people up,

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I needed to further my education and that's when I

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>went back to school later, but I was already doing

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>a radio show for kjlage giving spicy tips and then

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>later on What Up doing spicy tips and relationship advice

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.159
<v Speaker 2>on my Heart for I TIE two point three, but

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 2>went back to get my masters so that I could

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 2>help people correctly with the tools, and then also was

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 2>building my company at the same time. I had to

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 2>do a transformation within because even through my twenties, I

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 2>was still allowing myself to think that in relationship or

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 2>in partnership, you have more, and you do have more

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 2>in the sense.

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Of, yeah, because you have a partnership, you have a Partnershipyah.

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 1>But if they're on the right team, if they're on.

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.360
<v Speaker 2>The right team, yes, But I didn't. I don't date

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 2>men who don't vote you, like who don't vote on you,

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and like court you. That was a non negotiable for me,

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't ever gonna be without. But what I

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't understand is that I was actually dating from a

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 2>scarcity mindset. I feel like it's a lot like you

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 2>need like several episodes for my love life? What you're

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>all going in a book? Oh?

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>They are? Do you have to make up names for

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the characters too.

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Anytime you talk about someone out of respect and out

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>for their privacy, I'm changing names and I'm changing even

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 2>even if I reference like examples around maybe something that

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm pulling from Bee a client, I'm going to change

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 2>all the details so that it doesn't trace back to

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that person, just to respect their privacy. And then I'll

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 2>also be sharing and be getting their permission. Yeah, anytime

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you mention someone, you want to get.

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>That anytime now. So to go back to your story,

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you're in college, You've lost your virginity. You're understanding this

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 1>relationship cycle this whole time. You're in pursuit of eventually

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>become creating this spicy life. But maybe not the name

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>of it.

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Ye didn't know the name yet. Okay, that was birthed after,

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 2>Like I graduated in undergrad in I'm a girlfriend person,

0:25:56.119 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>so I stay in relationship from relationship for relationship. Definitely

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>had those seasons where I'm like, Okay, I need to

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 2>be single so that I can live myself and be alone.

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah. I've tasted the single life and

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 2>I've tasted the spicy life and in relationship. What I

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>noticed about myself is that I thrive and go further. Okay,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>when I'm in an unhealthy relationship, I fall to the wayside,

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 2>it takes over. And so identifying that early on and

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>identifying the power that sex had over my emotions and

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 2>how it would either make me super anxious or I

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>would be spiraling and I can't eat, I can't sleep,

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm showing up but your house, Like I went through

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>that crazy season. So there was always this back and

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 2>forth between the gangster and me and then the thirst

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 2>in me because at the end of the day, what

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>my heart really wanted was my heart really wanted was

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 2>a man. Well, my heart really wanted was a father.

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now have you heard this subconsciously that people are

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>attracted to that familiar energy? Well, what am I saying?

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>You've studied this? Is this? I'm going to ask you,

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>is this a thing? Because I was telling my homeboy

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>definitely leaving his name out, but he's in a relationship

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>where he's continually being abandoned. And I was just like

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I had learned from a toxic relationship. I went there

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>before the lady had said subconsciously, you're the feeling you

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>had in say a childhood or whatever. Yeah, you're reinvoking

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>it whether you liked it or not subconsciously. Is this true? Yeah,

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>shed more light on.

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.959
<v Speaker 2>That as so what it is that you tend to

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>date with Just even though you may say you don't

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>want that thing because it's familiar to you, you will

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>subconsciously attract that thing and choose that thing. And so

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>what that may look like for me, for example, was

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>because I wanted a father figure, I'm going to go

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>after men that either maybe I saw my mom date

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>men that may not have been even certain about me.

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>That would be like the oh, I'm not I don't

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>realize that this is something that is affecting me. So

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>that would look like if I'm anxious, right, it would

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 2>look like me getting with maybe an avoidant because my

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>mom was with avoidance men who were not emotionally available

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>to and but that was familiar because that's how my

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 2>dads were. And so we have to recognize, Okay, what's

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>my kryptonite? What are the things that are holding me

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>back from achieving what I want? And you have to

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 2>make a conscious decision for what you want.

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>So like an anxious or avoidant attachment style, like you're

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>looking at the attachment stock.

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So that plays a role in how you

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 2>behave and navigate in the relationship. For me, what I

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 2>wanted was a father figure and to be loved appropriately

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>by a man. But what I was attracting were men

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>who either embodied some of the characteristics of previous father

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 2>figures or understood that was a void that I was

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>hunting for, and so I was accepting maybe their voids

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 2>or their weaknesses or their wounds. So we were wound mates,

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>we were not purpose mates. A wound mate is someone.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Who you are, you have you both share.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Similar wound or hurt, okay, and so that person then

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:02.959
<v Speaker 2>becomes attached to you through time, shared experiences, intimacy. But

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>that is not somebody who's gonna propel you into your purpose.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>That is not that's like cluational somebody who's gonna hold

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you back. And so when I would see I got

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship with this one guy, and I wouldn't

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I introduce my mom to let's say, all of my men,

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't introduce this one because the relationship was so toxic.

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>He was an alcoholic, and my mom was like, this

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>is looking real familiar, and she busted me out. She

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, you won't let me meet him. What is

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>wrong with him? There's something going on. You introduced me

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>to all your little chicky boom booms. What is wrong

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>with him? And I was like, MoMA, making a pros

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and consist right now about him because I don't know

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>whether to stay or whether to go.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>And she was like, stop making that pros and consics

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 2>about yourself about him. Make it about yourself. Oh, she's

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>make the pros and consts about yourself because something about

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you is attracted to this guy that you're dating and

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>you need to see, like, why is it so familiar

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>to you? And he was the prototype of every man

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 2>that she had previously been with.

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's interesting that she's able to call

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>out these things for you. Correct, But she also played

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.719
<v Speaker 1>a role contributing to these things. Correct. I don't know,

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not judging. I just think it's interesting that

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole dynamic with you and your mom is just

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>very unique in the sense that it's almost like she

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>wants you to be a She definitely wants you to

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>be a better version, of better version, but she's definitely

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>able to call it out and give really great advice. Yes,

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And I don't even know what a pro and CON's

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>list of you would look like. What does that even mean?

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I do it for my clients now right.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>It's essentially a swat analysis on yourself. So a swat

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>in business is when you, let's say, take an organization

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>or even if you were to take your eat while

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 2>eating while broke. Okay, what are the strengths of the show,

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>what are the weaknesses, where's the opportunities for growth? And

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>what are the threats? And so what that would look

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>like for yourself is okay, where do I excel? Where's

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>what are my strengths? What am I superior at? What

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 2>do I do amazing? What are my weaknesses? Where's the

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 2>areas that I suck? That I'm awful, that I'm a

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>horrible person. I'm gonna give you one, y'all. I was

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 2>late to the show. Time management will be one of

0:30:59.040 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>my weaknesses.

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>To be clear, though, there's that when you give a

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>lead way before. That's so late would be like overf.

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I communicate it.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>She was fifteen minutes, but she called and was calling

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>and texting and doing the whole nine, so she that's

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>a I was like, okay, if that's your weakness. That

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>ain't bad.

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's bad in the sense of I know it

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>about myself and I'm still having a hard time changing.

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I try to do too much in a certain amount

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 2>of time because your mom.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what we do.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like this before. I can't even I would

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 2>love to blame my son. Now he'd just be running

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>late with me. So that's how my neighbor is.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my neighbor'd she'd be like, hey, I'll

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>take both the kids to school. I'm like, not, because

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna know this, You're gonna be late late.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be late the So for this, why it's okay?

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Straight's weaknesses and then opportunities. Where is spicy body's opportunities

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>for growth? Right? I know the weakness is maybe high management?

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Where my opportunities for growth? Okay, maybe I'm gonna set

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 2>my alarm, schedule my appointments better. Maybe I'm not going

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>to take on more than I could chew and make

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>an over commit. The threat if I don't work on

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>this thing that is horrible about myself, what is going

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>to happen to me? What is going to happen if

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't work on my time misopportunities, I could potentially

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 2>disrupt other people's livelihood. You have to really assess the threats,

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>and so in relationship, you have to do this for yourself.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm over here saying I want to be a wife,

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't looked at within? Why aren't I yet?

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>What am I doing? What toxic traits do I have?

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>And I did add some toxic ones, I thought, just

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 2>because I was like studying relationship, I was also using

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>some of those gifts that my mom warned me about

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 2>to take advantage of. I believe men who really did

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>care about me.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>And because I was hurt, right, I was actually making

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>choices from a wounded place, and I thought, I'm empowered.

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to love these hoes. And it was

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>really like, you are afraid to let them in because

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you grew up seeing your mother get hurt, You've abandoned met,

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you're afraid of being poor again. And so all of

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 2>these things played a role in the choices that I

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 2>was making in men. And so when she gave me

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>that little wake up call, she called it like a

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>pros and cons list, but I.

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Call it a swat.

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Now you need to do it on yourself, because something

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>about you wants this, dude. And at that moment, that

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 2>was a wake up call to me because she said,

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>she was like, you're you think you're running circles around

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>me and you're trying to avoid being me. She was like,

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>but you are on a trajectory to become me, geez,

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>And I like, did it?

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Mom?

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And that was my wake up call. I was like,

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I do want a wife. I do

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 2>want to be a wife, and I do want a family,

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and I want a healthy one and I want a

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>two parent home. And so if I'm going to do that,

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 2>what are the things about me that I have to change?

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>How do I need to show up to prepare to

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>be a wife. How do I need to make shifts

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>in my life? How do I need to communicate? And

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>when I went back to school and I studied like

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>spic y so in order to be in a health relationship, Spicy.

0:33:54.040 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Sorry sbic So, I say, I see, but take me

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a minute to sound it out in my head. That's

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>all I see.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>IM seeing you commute, I see you compute the things though,

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I see your the willls in your head.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Sturtay, Spicy, all right, spicy.

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, But I went back to school. The entire birth

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>of the Spicy Life was me studying what makes a

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>healthy relationship. So I threw myself back into school and

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, I'm going to focus on this, I'm

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>going to prioritize this, and I'm not going to still

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 2>love men. I'm still going to date. But in my

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>studies I discovered that the main ingredients that you need

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>for a healthy relationship are the self component to love

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 2>thyself but also know thyself. So it's a self awareness part.

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 2>The next part is passion. You've got to have a

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>passion for your purpose and a passion for life. You

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>have to be able to evoke passion in others. Intimacy

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>is the eye. How do you connect what wounds.

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Do we need to heal?

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Were you strong in your feminity and your masculinity? And

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 2>how do you show intimacy? How do you pull intimacy

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>out of others? Communication? How do you deliver that message

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 2>for your target audience? So, if you want a man,

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 2>how do you speak to men? If you want a woman,

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 2>how do you speak to women? Yeah, sender versus receiver.

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And then the last part is yes, sacrificing whatever.

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I saw that you had said someone like get

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 1>used to saying yes or finding the power to say yes?

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>What did you say in your learning to say yes?

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Learning to say yes? And I was like, Oh, that's different. Yeah,

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.439
<v Speaker 1>what does that even look like? Learning to say yes?

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Culture of all boundaries?

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody's know. And I'm like, yes in the sense

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 2>of what am I afraid of? And how do I

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>conquer that? What do I need to sacrifice to be

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>able to achieve my heart's desire?

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Got it? What do I need to say yes to?

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Is it more invitations? Is it yes to the guy

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 2>who I'm like, that's not my type? Is it yes

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>to this class that I want to enroll in? Is

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>it yes to this thing that maybe somebody is asking

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 2>me to try and I'm closed off to it. A

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of us are really just trying to protect ourselves

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, and so the decisions

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>that we make are always going to resort back to

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>what am I afraid of and what am I trying

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>to avoid so that I don't repeat the same mistakes.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 2>And you need to say yes to sometimes the unknown,

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes to the elevation and to the expansion.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Now I get it. Now I get the yes. So

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about yes, what if you want to do. Some

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of you ain't into it.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 2>But yes, we'll help you in your relationship too, though,

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 2>because when your partner's proposing things, if you shut them down,

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>if you close them down, that's going to train them

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to not open up to you. That's going to train

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>them that she always says no. And when you say yes,

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and you're more open even in improv yes, and that

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>gives the person permission to.

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Be open with you.

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I've decided I'm going to go full blown

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>spicy and ran with it in the sense of I

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>have to. I had to own it. I had to

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>be spicy, and I had to create the spicy life,

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and I had to teach others how to be spicy.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 2>So I decided I did a transformation. I went from

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Venom to Spider Man, and I was like, I have

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>to now use my powers for good like my mom

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>ton'd me back in the day.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Now to build this empire that you've built. What did

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that runway look like? Because I would imagine you were

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>doing something on the side till you got the company

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>off the round. So can you tell me just a

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit to bits of how the company.

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 2>I was a sales rep one time. For gosh, I've

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>had jobs all my life through even to put myself

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 2>through college. But after graduation it looked like me working

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 2>as a buyer for Macy's. I've been a pharmaceutical sales rep.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I was a PR rep for an insurance agency at

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>one point. All those times that I had like that

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 2>full time job coming in, I always worked at my

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>craft of relationships and hosting. So I always did radio

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>at the same time because that doesn't pay.

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and.

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I always did radio and TV. Okay, and that would

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>be always like sending the relationship message of my spicy tips.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Got it, But that did not pay the bills. I

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>had to do these other jobs in the interim.

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, but now you're just full time spicy.

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm full time spicy life.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay. And how does that look like from an entrepreneur's

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>perspective day in the life? Is it smooth or is

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it bumpy? Still? Oh no, it's crazy.

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>And this is why, like I have my husband, who

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 2>is my purpose made he's my writer die because he

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 2>saw how I was trying to manage like jobs at

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 2>the same time, wile build my empire and I was

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.839
<v Speaker 2>disorganized with how I was trying to build the Spicy Life.

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 2>He was like, Okay, we're not gonna be able to scale.

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to be able to grow this business

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 2>if you are running twenty different ways, and this is

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 2>how we need to actually like create and run your operations.

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>It's because he's an expert in that I shout out

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 2>to my husband Marriage and Finances book. He was able

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>to help me become more organized in my business. And

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>then that's when I really start to see the benefits.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>And I always knew. I was like, I'm on my

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 2>own radio and TV show as a relationship expert, and

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 2>he said, focus on the business. You build the business,

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 2>the shows will come. Okay, build the business, the shows

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>will come. And I was like, no, I got an audition.

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I gotta show my expertises being able to talk about

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 2>relationships on TV shows. He's build the business, the shows

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>will come, and I focus on just my clients. I

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 2>poured into them. I poured into walking focus down the aisle.

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 2>I went and got officiated so I could marry them off.

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I saw that I did all the things and the

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 2>shows came and that was my next thing.

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.959
<v Speaker 1>So they just started contacting you saying hey, we would

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>love for you to audition, or they just said come

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>on pack your bags.

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 2>They shows usually will reach out to me and it

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>will be essentially an audition will look like an audition

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>since of we need a relationship expert. Can you talk

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>about these three things on zoom really quick? Or we

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>saw your video tape. We want to see how you

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>read with this co host. That would literally just be

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 2>that was DAANMGN happy. I listened to my husband and

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy that I said on this trajectory. Yeah, and

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>when you see yourself do more good than broken hearts,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 2>it's whoo. But it makes me a great coach though,

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 2>because I went through all my seasons. I went through

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>my poor season, I went through my host season, I

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>went through my anxious attachment thirsty season, I went through

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>my pansy, I went through all the events. And so

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>it helps me with women because no matter what FAI,

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>they're coming in and me now being the CEO of

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 2>my company, I'm mostly working with those alpha queens.

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, those that independent women are independent. They I

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>saw one of my girls posts like the dad cannot

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>be independent because it is a real heavy I think

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>women carry it well, like it's a very from the outside.

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's carried very well. But I remember I think DC

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Young Fly had said to me, like women carry the

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>most grace, like hell could be going on at Yahn

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 1>put on a smiling for sure or whatever. And but

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I see, yeah, I think women that are real independent

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>they just want to break. They're like, yeah, this is

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:37.760
<v Speaker 1>for the birds. This sucks.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 2>It's challenging because when you focus on just your career, right,

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I knew that I wanted both, so I always did

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>multitasking the sense of build my career.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was a leven girl.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course you're gonna get me what you're'n gonna

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>find me without a man, unless I was being intentional

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 2>of being without a man. Always that a man.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Well as the longest you were ever single, I think

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the most I made it was like one year. But

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>when I say one year, it was literally I was

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>just like, let's wait, just a couple more buds to

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>put the title on it, like you knew what you

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>were doing. But I was like, please, man, I promise

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>myself I'd be officially single. But it was really diasy.

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 2>You had to make a pact, like you had to

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>try try me.

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I been single ever.

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I did six months.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did six and I did a detox.

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, no me and no sex, no dates,

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 2>no nothing, no nothing. I did that detox just to see,

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 2>like one if I could do it, but also to

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>just to focus on me. I wanted to be selfish

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>in that moment because relationships are really about serving. Healthy

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>relationships are about serving one another. So yeah, that's that.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 2>That's single. I've been in all the seasons, but nothing

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 2>compared to the spicy season, where you're empowered with understanding

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 2>the tools and the power that we have as women

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 2>to pivot back and forth between our masculine and feminine

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 2>to get anything done. You do have to lean into

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>your masculine when it comes to like efficiency, but to

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 2>get the things that you want and to not have

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 2>to work as hard for it, you need to leave

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>into your feminine. Yeah that's so into the receiving.

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>I agree. Okay. One thing I want to back track

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to is you said marriage and Finances was the name

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of oh, my husband's book. Yeah, your husband's book. All right,

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>shout outs to your husband. Marriage and Marriage and Finances. Okay, Shaye.

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>What's his last name if people want to my husband

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is Shae Wah. Okay, Shae Wah. And the name of

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the book is Marriage and Finances and shout Outs if

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to check that out because it helps

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the spicy life.

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, my husband is that man.

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>And then what are how can someone out there identify

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>deal breakers that are just non negotiables that this relationship

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>is definitely headed down a path of just going opposite ways,

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>or maybe they were on course but then they parted. Yeah,

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I have you here. I'm gonna try and

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>get it out of you.

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 2>So let me give you the pizza. This is a

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 2>cook this is a cooking show. Let me give you

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the pizza. So the pizza is how you get led

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 2>to your purpose. Mate, Okay, how you exclude and get

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 2>rid of all the waste, all the garbage, all the trash.

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Your pizza is the crust, sauce, and toppings. So the

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 2>three things you need for a good pizza crust, sauce, toppings.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Crust is the foundation. So folks at home needs to

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.240
<v Speaker 2>do five things that they believe make a good human.

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Write those five things down, Okay, the five things you

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>think make a good human. The sauce is the five

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 2>ways that I need to be treated in order to

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 2>feel loved, to be inspired, to give love, and to

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 2>feel loved. I need these five things. That's gonna be

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 2>very hard for people to answer. The good person is

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 2>hard for the crust is hard for people to answer,

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 2>and the sauce is hard for people to answer.

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The last you can't generic like just they have to

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>have intagrity or whatever.

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.439
<v Speaker 2>If that's a core value of yours, If that would

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 2>be a crust, that would be in the crust. But

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the sauce needs to be like, I need chivalry. That's

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 2>a non negotiable for me. I have to have chivalry.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>The toppings is the next.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Really the cheese.

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>The toppings is the cheese to the toppings, it goes crust, sauce, toppings.

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Cheese is considered a topic.

0:43:58.280 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, go on.

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>So the toppings is what do I need to be

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>physically attracted to this person? Oh? Okay, how can and

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 2>what do they need to have for me to want

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:12.320
<v Speaker 2>to take my clothes off? The toppings, though, is okay?

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Is how everybody is dating in twenty twenty five. We're

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 2>starting with the toppings and then we're pulling back that

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>beats and we're being like, Okay, what is the sauce

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 2>look like? Okay, what is the crust look like? And

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that's jacking us up as a society. Yeah, is messing

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>us up.

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, though, I feel like the way people

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>are dating back in the day, and I truly believe

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that the only reason why I was always in a

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>relationship was you would make a guy wait or whatever.

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Now if you hang out with a guy with they

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>have like their own number. If they're not smashing by

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like date two, they're like I got Shakara, Keisha, Sarah

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and Jody yeah or whoever that are all in rotation

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.240
<v Speaker 1>right now. I don't even want to waste my time.

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's weird because now they don't even want to

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>stick around. I had guys that would stick around forever, yeah,

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and then if you did hook up, but then they

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 1>were definitely like, you're my girlfriend. You know what I'm saying.

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 2>And this error, But sex isn't guarantee that, No, it

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't it.

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying that when you're thinking about your layers,

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>people start with this toppings. Then they hook up because

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they're just going off attraction, and then they're peeling back

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the layers.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 2>They're peeling back those layers.

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's backwards. I'm just it's backwards.

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And that backwardsness is messing us up, especially

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 2>as us as women who want husbands, because if you're

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>working backwards and you're operating and thinking like a man,

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 2>because that's what a man cares about, hears about toppings.

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 2>If you don't have the toppings, a man's not fooling

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 2>with you at all. Yeah, but for a woman that's

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 2>looking for a husband, the crust and the sauce are

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:39.240
<v Speaker 2>by far the most important things got and so anything.

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>So as you create your pizza right, you're gonna writ

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 2>your pizza out the five five five. The toppings are

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 2>negotiable because if he has the crust and he has

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the sauce, it's still a good freaking pizza.

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>It's still a delicious, say, and you're definitely going to

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>be attracted to it. Yeah, you know, it's longs.

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 2>More attractive to you the better that he reads you.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 2>There needs to be a few toppings on there, just

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 2>so that you can take your clothes off. But O

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 2>five do not have to be on there. Okay, those

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>are negotiable. You can fix the things that may not

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 2>be on there. My husband had crookeet see now he

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>had a visit line straight, his teeth are straight. Hand.

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 2>But this needs to be the map, the road map

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 2>to how you are dating and how you are getting

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 2>in relationship. If they don't have the crust, the crust

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 2>is not negotiable. If they're not a good human, if

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 2>they show you anything outside of those five qualities in

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the crust, you have to release them.

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Dang, you have to really, Now, what if someone say,

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.760
<v Speaker 1>dip their hands in the little cookie jar and they're attached,

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 1>they gotta like, if.

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>You want a husband and you want a healthy relationship,

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 2>you got to release them because why would you If

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 2>he's not the crust, If he doesn't have the characteristics

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 2>that you just said defined a good human, why are

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 2>you with him? What are you doing here?

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Or her? Or her?

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Or Yeah, men do this too, but for us trying

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to select husbands, it may have to be in the

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 2>sense of a numbers game. Okay, so you do have

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>to give up five, You might have to give up ten.

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 2>You may have to continue your rotation in your dating pool.

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 2>When these qualities are you have to give up. You

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 2>might have to give up someone. Oh give up, yeah, yeah,

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>give up a guy like you. Might have to catch

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and release, Catch and release, and you move on to

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the next zoo.

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Catch and release. I went to a phase where I said,

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I have to catch and release. The second I feel

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>slight disrespect, you released back to the ocean.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 2>You gotta sometimes let them go.

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You gotta let them go. Okay, okay. And then for

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the married folk out there, shout outs to all the

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.959
<v Speaker 1>people the roller coaster, Oh.

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Here. Yeah, what advice do you give to those folks

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:36.240
<v Speaker 1>that have been at it for a while? Now, spice

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it up, spice it up with the spider. It doesn't

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 1>just look like the bedroom. I'm telling you.

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.439
<v Speaker 2>If you become more attractive when your partner sees you growing,

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.840
<v Speaker 2>so start pouring into yourself, whether that's something that you

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>want to register for, a hobby that you want to

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 2>get into and expose your partner to it. That actually

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 2>becomes sexy when you teach your partner new things. So

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>that's what I call intellectual intimacy. Oh I like that

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 2>to where it's I'm I'm growing. I'm teaching myself cool

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 2>things or someone introduced something to me, and then you

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 2>share that with them. You get them then into the

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 2>thing that you are being expanded by, and then they

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 2>within themselves will also be expanded. But that keeps the

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 2>relationship intimacy there. And then also I do think that

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 2>you gotta put love on this to do list, so

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 2>we do need our date nights. I also am a

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 2>huge proponent of schedule.

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Sex really scheduled, Yes, scheduled. How do you do that?

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Though you on the calendar, I'm gonna be all the

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>way one. I have the same age child as you. Yeah,

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I promise you. Around nine o'clock if me and my

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>significant my husband are together, the only thing that's happening

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 1>is sleep yep. I don't know if it's like the

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>energy or the vibe, like the energy with her in

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 1>the peripherals. It just it's like dead tired. And I'm

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like that is, But if she wasn't around, it'd be different.

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I get it. But Wednesday, every Wednesday this.

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanted the baby to bed out this time

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:08.800
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna get it in.

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And what he doesn't feel forced, it's not about.

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 2>No because it actually gives you something to look forward to.

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>People feel like, if I put on the calendar or

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.839
<v Speaker 2>I make it like a part of my agenda, it's

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 2>not going to be spontaneous, and I want it spontaneous,

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.279
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, but I want the sex, and I

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 2>know my time management is bad, So if I try

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to make it spontaneous, it's never gonna happen. I would

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 2>rather have the connection. I would rather be plugged into

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>with him, then miss out on our passion and our intimacy.

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's actually now being intentional. If we're intentional everything

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>else in our life, whether it be our workouts, whether's

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 2>drink and water, why not be intentional about your sex

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 2>life as well. If you are a busy body like me,

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and it makes sense, and I do get tired.

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>If I know they have a kid, you'd be like, yo,

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>be all looking at the kid like you, oh, let's.

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Be trying to sleep with us, And I'm like, a,

0:49:58.080 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you're throwing.

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Salt on my game. These kids are like birth control, man.

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my one thousand percent, yeah, one thousand percent.

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>But that is by nature though.

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 2>If they keep you busy, if they make sure that

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you have all other attention, they can eliminate the potential

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 2>for siblings and they can absorb all of the resources

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:21.919
<v Speaker 2>that come with being an only child.

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, and then what do you advice

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>for people that are going through separation?

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Separations are challenging because it's one foot and one foot out. Yeah,

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to decide do you want to stay do

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 2>you want to go? And so I think that you

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 2>need to be very clear on do we have the

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 2>same goal. Do we both want the same things in life?

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 2>If we want completely different things in life? Because I

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 2>think that when you are with your purpose mate, you

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 2>guys understand the bigger picture and so anything that diverts

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 2>from that throws you off track. So you always have

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 2>to go back to, Okay, what is the goal in

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the relationship? What are we both trying to accomplish, not

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>just in our but in our relationship goal. You have

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to put relationship goals and have team meetings for relationship goals,

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 2>just the same way that you would for financial on

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 2>the calendar. Everything goes on the calendar. At this point

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in my life, I said, we run in behind, but

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.479
<v Speaker 2>even the sex runs behind. But everything goes on the calendar.

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeahs are hilarious.

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>You are hilarious. I can't imagine what that would look like.

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But the way you called us fifteen minutes, I'm so

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>so sorry. Yeah, I'll make it up. That is one thing.

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Me and my husband, we communicate. He's even a better

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 2>communicator than be. But we communicate.

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>And you still think communication is like key number.

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.400
<v Speaker 2>One, number one. A lot of us think that we

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 2>are great communicators and we are not.

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And what's the difference between male and female communication?

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, there's a million things, but I'll start

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:49.240
<v Speaker 2>with love versus logic and women, communication is an emotional

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 2>experience for it. For men, communication is a driver of

0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 2>efficiency and logic. And so that's why we are in

0:51:56.320 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 2>our masculine when we are at work, because we are

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to just let me give you this information so

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 2>we can make these changes so we can be efficient

0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and effective. Men naturally communicate with the factual disclosure. Factual

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 2>disclosure is the facts that you need to know. Women

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>we communicate oftentimes with emotional disclosure. And if you're a

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 2>woman not communicating with emotional disclosure, you'll never create intimacy

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 2>in relationship that you're operating. You're masculine and you need

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to call me. But emotional disclosure is telling you how

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the fact made you feel.

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's a good thing.

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 2>If that is a good thing, most of us as

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 2>a society are not operating in emotional disclosure. We are

0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 2>operating in factual disclosure when we are in our masculine energy.

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Give me an example, you and I were in a relationship. Yeah,

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you a factual disclosure, like today, I

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>have an appointment at four pm. Sorry, I couldn't make

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>it to our dinner. Okay, So is that a good example? Yes?

0:52:55.719 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Close, That would be I have a four pmtor's appointment,

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 2>or of a four pm conference call, and you can

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 2>say I'm sorry.

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 1>That's not that.

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Being apologetic is an emotion. However, we would take it

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 2>a step further and say, I apologize and it makes

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 2>me feel awful to have disappointed you and not being

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:20.320
<v Speaker 2>able to make it. But I need you to understand

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 2>that what I'm going through really requires this for my esteem.

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.279
<v Speaker 2>I got to make disappointment and tell me how this

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:30.719
<v Speaker 2>is making you feel and how I can make it

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 2>up to you.

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>That's emotional.

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>That is the emotional Okay, you have to let the

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>person into how it's making you feel. They need to

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 2>see the remorse saying, to hear the repentance. They need

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 2>to because the problem with i'm sorry, and this is

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 2>a whole nother episode about the apology languages, the problem

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 2>with i'm sorry is that people if you use i'm

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 2>sorry in relationship, it doesn't work anymore because if you've

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 2>been sorry a hundred times, the person's tired of hearing it. Yeah,

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 2>like whatever, the emotional disclosure would come in even though

0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:00.040
<v Speaker 2>you're like, i'm sorry, that's an emotion apologetic is, but

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 2>i'm sorry is like the delivery of the remorse. The

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 2>person actually needs to hear and feel and experience the

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 2>remorse to actually believe you.

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 2>But the factual disclosure would be, we made toast. Maybe

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 2>my husband's gonna ask me how the podcast we made toast.

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 2>That's factual disclosure. He's not bonded to.

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Me, that's a fact. Yes, we made I got it.

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 2>That sugar sent him in toast. I like to call

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 2>it my spicy Toast baby. And it took me back

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to my childhood when I was feeding my siblings and

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I was responsible for them at a young age and

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that was so hard on me, but like we persevered

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and it made me feel good to think about Mama.

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 2>We made it like that's more emotional disclosure.

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:42.839
<v Speaker 1>But now do men like that? Because you always see

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>these jokes online where men are like the woman is

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>just downloading and the man has just had lunch.

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.239
<v Speaker 2>At the end, what are you trying to achieve in

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>that moment? If we want to bond, I need to

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:56.120
<v Speaker 2>give you emotional disclosure, because I'm trying to get ish done.

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I need to give you factual disclosure. So if I

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 2>want the man closer to me, I should not be

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 2>mirroring his communication. I should be having him mear mind.

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>But if I never speak to you in emotional disclosure,

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 2>you never learn. You never learned, as my partner, how

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to become more articulate with your emotional language. We get

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 2>on a vibration of masculinity and we're just delivering the

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 2>facts to each other versus Oh my god, it makes

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 2>me feel so good. When you came home early today,

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I needed that. I needed to see you, I needed

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 2>to recharge with your presence like that. He needs to

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 2>know what the fact meant to him. Got it, and

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 2>he will not be guided to being closer to you

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 2>unless he hears it. It does not need to be

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a four page letter. And that's where we go wrong.

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with the eighteen eighteen eighteen page tech correct now

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>there are There's another thing that men have been saying

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>online is that women like to be lied to. Have

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you heard about that?

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I do think it's interesting because I can't

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:56.439
<v Speaker 1>see in some ways where they're making sense.

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Tell me your OI gets true.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of true. Like me and my

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 1>husband we separated for a couple of years and women

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 1>were like this. One girl had talked to me. She said,

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.879
<v Speaker 1>he told me, she said, you're separated. I said, yeah,

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that still means married. Like you know what I'm saying, like,

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 1>still means married. I'm not holding you responsible. Yeah you're

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:23.800
<v Speaker 1>married or no. She said, you're married on paper. No,

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what I said. I said, that is exactly what married.

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>That is exactly what it is. So stop saying married

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 1>on paper, Just say married. But I remember having this

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 1>conversation with this girl and she literally kept saying married

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>on paper, and I was just like, no, no anger

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 1>towards her.

0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 1>But I could not believe that this young lady was

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 1>saying to me, married on paper, fully saying it like

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 1>it was okay, but not realizing what she said was

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 1>married on paper. You know what I'm saying. It's like

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a form of lying to herself. And she got and

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it was all all these things that she saw that

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>was very clear evidence that this person is clearly married.

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But that to me would be an example of someone

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 1>lying to themselves. Do you get, I understand exactly what

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>do you feel that too? That's like lions. Yes, we

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 1>will look for.

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 2>How to turn the red flags into green flags. As women,

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 2>we can oftentimes try to rationalize mistreatment, rationalize what's obvious

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 2>because we want to feel a certain way. Okay, we

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 2>want something, we have a desire of our heart and

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 2>we want to achieve it. Will rationalize the bad thing

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 2>that intuitively maybe telling us like run, We will rationalize it.

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 2>But we rationalize it by lying to ourselves about it. Yeah,

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 2>by painting a pretty picture and making it seem like

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 2>it's normal, and deep down inside, when we are healed,

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 2>we're able to recognize that. Unhealed, you now have become

0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 2>desensitized from the recognition and being tapped out of your

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>intuitive Yeah, so you begin to lose trust himself.

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Also, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that in the conversation.

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I could see with the young lady too, like our

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>friends were like, what are you doing?

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Correct?

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 1>And then there was one other thing. Do you ever

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 1>console poly relationships?

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 2>That's funny. I've done poly show, Yeah you have the.

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I will.

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 2>So I've done let's say, triangles right in the SNS

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 2>of husband, wife who's separated or divorcing, and mistress. Okay,

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I've counseled them. When it comes to polyamorous relationships, I

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 2>do not believe that restores the family unit when you

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>have the intentions of having multiple partners. I do not

0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 2>think that we have the ability or to be able

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 2>to juggle them all. And I do not feel like

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:50.840
<v Speaker 2>a man without discipline can be trusted. I agree with them,

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 2>So I will not counsel polyamous relationships. And I have

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 2>been approached by them. Can we have such sessions?

0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>No, we cannot. And that's interesting that they're also approaching you,

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 1>because they when you see these poly relationships, they clamorize

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>this whole like multiple and we all get along. You

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 1>would never It's interesting to hear that these same people

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>are saying, hey, can you help us.

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of coaches and counsel lers that

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 2>will take any one. I'm finally at a point in

0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 2>my career where i don't have to. Yeah, there's a

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 2>point when I'm like, come on, Well, there's a screening

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.760
<v Speaker 2>process with your Yeah, we do consultations first. There, I

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 2>do an assessment and that's one hundred and fifty questions

0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 2>where I'm like figuring out, Okay, where do I need

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 2>to help you within SPI C Y. So there's a

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 2>whole process before we get started.

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>You're not in a service.

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Agreement and n date. We're going through the real because

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to not only deep dive into your life,

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm letting you into mine.

0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Got it? Oh okay, So it's a two ways.

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a two way. I can't teach you the fundamentals

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and the formulas for trust and intimacy without reciprocating, got it.

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.560
<v Speaker 2>There's no way for me to be able to transform

0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 2>your perspective and understand your beliefs and hear your childhood

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.640
<v Speaker 2>wounds and traumas if it's one sided. And that's not

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to say that a lot of my clients experience there

1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and me simultaneously, because therapy will help them understand like

1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 2>where that experience came from or what was at the route.

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I help them in the transformation of Okay, this is

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:12.200
<v Speaker 2>how we actually tackle it. This is how we create

1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.720
<v Speaker 2>the change. So there's self awareness component and there's a

1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:17.720
<v Speaker 2>self actualization component. That's where I'm coming in and kicking

1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:18.080
<v Speaker 2>your ass.

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Nice. So where can everybody keep up with everything the

1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Spicy Life?

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:26.000
<v Speaker 2>You guys can go to the spicylife dot com. You

1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:29.000
<v Speaker 2>can play with my Twitter stroke, my ig at Spicy Modi.

1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 2>You can find the podcast everywhere that they're streaming The

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Spicy Life.

1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And you tape that every week or every week we

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:38.240
<v Speaker 1>have that every week. Yes, so all the relationship advice,

1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 1>all the relationship guru topics and challenges, you come and

1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:44.439
<v Speaker 1>is it just you or do you have a guest?

1:00:44.520 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I have a guest come on every episode with me.

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:48.959
<v Speaker 1>Wow, And then they just full transparency.

1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sometimes we're talking about their expertise in the profession

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:54.120
<v Speaker 2>because I'll have a lot of like relationship coaches or

1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:56.920
<v Speaker 2>therapists and counselors come on, or it's a guest that

1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:58.080
<v Speaker 2>we're exploring their love life.

1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Wow wow to here first and then any other projects on.

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:07.400
<v Speaker 2>The TV Netflix, Netflix. We gotta shout out Netflix niaky links. Okay,

1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I already told Team Healthy relationship situationships, booty calls, sneaky

1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:13.320
<v Speaker 2>links do not help you get closer to your husband.

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm the relationship expert on the show on Netflix right

1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:21.080
<v Speaker 2>now that's streaming. It's called Sneaky Links. Snaky Links, Sneaky links.

1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. Yes, and you're gonna. You're on the

1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Health Team Healthy side, so you're gonna.

1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm helping the singles in the motel transform their sneaky

1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:33.080
<v Speaker 2>ways so that they can be a magnet for real love.

1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow, but that doesn't happen overnight. How long do you

1:01:35.960 --> 1:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>have you tape the show?

1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:39.840
<v Speaker 2>We were in the motel for a month, and so

1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:42.840
<v Speaker 2>we're doing like coaching sessions together, putting them through like

1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.920
<v Speaker 2>a boot camp of activities, and even putting temptation in

1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:47.880
<v Speaker 2>front of them to test for the change.

1:01:48.840 --> 1:01:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Did they pass? Not?

1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:55.120
<v Speaker 2>All of them? You can leave them to the water. Okay,

1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:57.479
<v Speaker 2>you can't necessarily get them to drink.

1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Check out Sneaky Links on Netflix. I know I am,

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<v Speaker 1>because I just want to see people fail test. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>that person.

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<v Speaker 2>You and your husband are back together now right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're working right. Yes, he's working very hard. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very proud of him. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you give up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot, I'm a hard one. Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>When I be done, I blow up the whole building.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like. That's it. It's a wrap. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter is very happy, so I'm one hundred per

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<v Speaker 1>cool with it. Yeah, I'll try shout outs to growth.

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<v Speaker 1>Call me anytime you need to grow. When you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>whoop his butt, I probably would right now, he's on

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<v Speaker 1>a good past. Shout out shout outs to him. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely respect. I respect anybody that works on themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>works really hard and fight a good fight and doesn't quit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my thing. That's quit. Just don't quit.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the area come to? Sharing? Where the areas

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<v Speaker 2>are that he asks you to grow?

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<v Speaker 1>Where he asked me to grow. If you asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably say I have an anger. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of anger. I'm making.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband.

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<v Speaker 1>I possessed. He's like, yo, I got a book to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>That zimper Oh my god. I had to work with

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<v Speaker 2>my husband early on that what we won't be doing

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<v Speaker 2>in this relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be or I don't listen,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I may cut him off before he finishes. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>wooo okay, yeah, but that's about it. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>I would say he probably said the communication. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's that bad. But the communication, Yeah, is that

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<v Speaker 1>that is communicating? Yes, yeah, that would be it. That

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be his number one. Other than that, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'm having a little sushi session with y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. He probably needs it. He needs a good tweaking.

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<v Speaker 2>I love when I hear couple say my partner needs it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm good. That's that is the clear past. You

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<v Speaker 2>already both very much need this. Okay, time point the

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<v Speaker 2>fingers of the other partner. I know it's a tail tale.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny because I totally did times in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>You should. He needs the help. He needs help. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank y'all for tuning in to a great meal. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna finish my egg.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did you finish your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I'm gonna finish my egg. Peace out, y'all

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