Speaker 1: Walking back day two.
Speaker 2: All the smoke.
Speaker 3: We had a good day yesterday today to.
Speaker 4: Sit down with Man, this man is hot right now.
Speaker 4: He's been hot, but extremely hot right now. Been in
Speaker 4: the game for a minute. To me, one of the
Speaker 4: funniest comedians in the business but also a dual threat
Speaker 4: acting movies, commercials. We're going to show Dion cole Man.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Man. I appreciate you being here. Man,
Speaker 1: let's talk present day.
Speaker 5: How you feeling fresh playing don Key Man the Mic movie?
Speaker 3: Great, having a great year. It is great, having a
Speaker 3: good time. Shout out to everybody over that that was
Speaker 3: on the Michael movie.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's been good Man. I can't complain
Speaker 3: at all, you know.
Speaker 5: So my godson played up Marlon Jackson really the last
Speaker 5: four or five years. He played him in the plays
Speaker 5: on Broadway and he got to be.
Speaker 1: In the movie too. So that's see, that's your lesson
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 3: Well, when they come at you, you know, for both
Speaker 3: you and man.
Speaker 1: Man, But what was it? What was it like?
Speaker 4: Obviously, Mike, one of the greatest effort and just to
Speaker 4: be a part of something so big and and spoiler alert,
Speaker 4: is there a part two?
Speaker 3: You know they have been going back and forth with this,
Speaker 3: and so I don't know exactly where they at with it,
Speaker 3: but it's it was it was a talk about it
Speaker 3: from the get go, you know, it was.
Speaker 1: It was to talk about it from the get going.
Speaker 3: And I'm doing the part too, and so I guess
Speaker 3: they was just trying to see how one went.
Speaker 1: And then you know, it's gonna go into two.
Speaker 3: So right now, from what I know that, I guess
Speaker 3: they and talks about it still and so much more
Speaker 3: to tell. Yeah, I mean, come on, man, you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't fit that man, like two hours.
Speaker 4: In another two hours, we want to see it. That's right, right,
Speaker 4: I heard it. I just saw a number. Yes, it's
Speaker 4: it's up like near like nine hundred and thirty million,
Speaker 4: pass a billion.
Speaker 1: Crazy a couple of.
Speaker 3: Weeks for a bio fit. Yeah, it's crazy, amazing. That's
Speaker 3: probably I think number two of biopics.
Speaker 1: Music up like it's it's been a good yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, man, but good times.
Speaker 5: What kind of research did you have to do to
Speaker 5: get to get ready to play don Ky Man?
Speaker 3: So I looked at like all the video of how
Speaker 3: I looked at a lot of footage of Don, and
Speaker 3: I looked at other portrayals of him, and you know,
Speaker 3: it was all kind of silly, you know, And so
Speaker 3: I just went to did a little background check. I
Speaker 3: don't know if a lot of people know this, but
Speaker 3: Don King went to jail for killing two people, right.
Speaker 1: Two too, did four years and got out.
Speaker 3: That's crazy four years and got out and man, and
Speaker 3: just was like, Yo, this is America and that's what
Speaker 3: made him go off onto that, And so.
Speaker 1: I was like, don wow, you know.
Speaker 3: But then I also started thinking once he started became up,
Speaker 3: when he became a boxing promoter. From what I heard,
Speaker 3: they were saying that he took a lot of money
Speaker 3: from a lot of people, but nobody came after him.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody.
Speaker 3: You never heard of nobody coming after Doe because Don
Speaker 3: was plugged, you know what I mean, he was plugged,
Speaker 3: like out in Vegas with them boys.
Speaker 1: I mean, get out for two and four years.
Speaker 3: You two boxes four years, and you took millions from
Speaker 3: people from from allegedly took millions from people or whatever.
Speaker 3: And they were saying that and nobody came after him
Speaker 3: or whatever. I was like, Nah, I'm we're gonna We're
Speaker 3: gonna play him different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different don you know, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna show how how he get down, you know.
Speaker 3: So that was my that was my thought process as
Speaker 3: far as, like, you know, looking up what he was
Speaker 3: and what he meant to that moment in the movie
Speaker 3: and the film or whatever.
Speaker 5: I heard Don King say this before. He's like a
Speaker 5: lot of people assuming me they don't like me. But
Speaker 5: one thing I always do is read the fine print.
Speaker 5: So he must always kept his contracts in tect kept
Speaker 5: always read the fine print, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So his corent the reason why nobody probably got him
Speaker 5: because he always had his paperwork right.
Speaker 3: Probably that's real. But Don always thought different. Even in
Speaker 3: that movie where Ving Rings played them. He said in
Speaker 3: that movie, he was like, he was like, I washed
Speaker 3: my hands before, I before, I before, I mean, I
Speaker 3: mean that was the first time I ever heard some
Speaker 3: ship what.
Speaker 1: Before I hate for grind mine.
Speaker 4: That's the former movie movie was that was.
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that was his mentality all always thinking different,
Speaker 3: always playing against it.
Speaker 1: Was a little bit more hood like you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't going to play.
Speaker 3: With yeah yeah, no, no, no, everybody that played don
Speaker 3: King played them silly, and they felt like they could
Speaker 3: because you know, the hair, the flags and him always smiling, but.
Speaker 1: He was with the ship. Yeah, I wouldn't do rob
Speaker 1: get Away with. Come on, don't do nothing, Mike, don't
Speaker 1: do nothing. Man. I was working with Antoine.
Speaker 3: Man. Antoine is one of the greatest dudes man like
Speaker 3: for real. Like directors, it's I worked with directors before,
Speaker 3: and they don't direct nothing, but he They just be
Speaker 3: trying to make their day. They be like this, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: we got the shot. Let's go an swine. You know
Speaker 3: his purpose. You know exactly what he wants. What do
Speaker 3: you want done? And he asked you for it, you know,
Speaker 3: and that's what he did. He just he knew his vision.
Speaker 3: Some directors they don't be knowing what they They had
Speaker 3: you in there and they have you do eighty shots
Speaker 3: because they can't figure out one shot they want, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, So they go, if I have
Speaker 3: eighty shots, I find it, you know, Twine like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you cant have as many shots as you want, but
Speaker 3: I know it when I got it, And he'll be like,
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 1: If you want to keep going, you can go ahead.
Speaker 1: But We're like, oh no, let's go, we can move
Speaker 1: on over. You know.
Speaker 3: So he's a wonderful director, one of the best ever man.
Speaker 1: So I was honored even work with him. Legend.
Speaker 5: I don't want to ask you about Hearder They Fall.
Speaker 5: That was an unbelievable cast, Regina, Regina King.
Speaker 1: Who else was in that movie? He just said, ever Elbow?
Speaker 1: Who played it? Just Elvi? I can't think his name,
Speaker 1: Majors Jopped the Ages. You know.
Speaker 3: That was a great movie, bro, Yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: a great That was a great movie. The Key Staff,
Speaker 3: The Key Staff, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Jaz who's the young brother there?
Speaker 3: R J J from Atlanta? Yea, I J good folks
Speaker 3: right talking as.
Speaker 1: They trying to get him the wrong you think.
Speaker 3: Past definitely, Man, another one of those you know, iconic moments.
Speaker 1: Man, you just book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like being with a cast like that and you know,
Speaker 3: breaking breaking, breaking the wall with showing something that hasn't
Speaker 3: been seen before, showing all.
Speaker 1: Showing how black cow boys were back in the day.
Speaker 1: They think that we didn't exist like we exist, originators
Speaker 1: wild They had a mouthful of gold man, mouth full
Speaker 1: of goal man. That's how it is, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean back then That's how it was so man,
Speaker 3: it was just great with that cast of people. Man,
Speaker 3: it was it was something else. Me and Idris we
Speaker 3: got into a big fight. We got to a fight
Speaker 3: and on screen, but we got into like a real
Speaker 3: little like little altercation shooting and ship. We rehearsed for
Speaker 3: three weeks and I told the story before, but we
Speaker 3: rehearsed for three weeks. This fight scene, he swing, I
Speaker 3: go down. He's come again and he hit me and
Speaker 3: I go down. Or we practiced this forever. He had
Speaker 3: this gun and saying we go, we're gonna set they
Speaker 3: like action. I go down, I come up. He had
Speaker 3: and it was one of them old pistols too, you know,
Speaker 3: the old pistol away about fifteen.
Speaker 1: Hit me on top of my head.
Speaker 3: I dropped, like literally dropped, like dude.
Speaker 1: We did this ship for three weeks. Dog, how you
Speaker 1: how all of a sudden you hit me in my ship.
Speaker 3: I'm laying on the ground with my hand up, waiting
Speaker 3: on the people to lift me up. Everybody walking by
Speaker 3: me and ship. I had to pistol, had to roll
Speaker 3: over it like lift my ownself.
Speaker 1: Fuck dog, and like dust myself off. Nobody came and
Speaker 1: helped me one little extra came the extra. Hey, I'm like, yeah, nigga, move.
Speaker 3: Rubbing my head and ship, I'm like, dog, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Nobody come talk to me.
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, so Chicago shit just kicked
Speaker 3: the hen.
Speaker 1: S.
Speaker 3: This shit again. We did it again. He came down.
Speaker 3: He was like, they gave a whole set. Ran over
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, get him medic.
Speaker 1: I was like this, what nobody can't you turned into London.
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, come home, man, Yeah, shripp you
Speaker 1: can say you got.
Speaker 5: Pistol said you get to get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah you got.
Speaker 3: Right after that, there was like all right, no more ship, right,
Speaker 3: no more than Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was great man, It's great, man. The honor of
Speaker 3: just playing a lot, like with a lot of great
Speaker 3: ensemble casts, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Man. And that was just another one, you know.
Speaker 3: Like with the Color Purple Blackish Barbershop, that's.
Speaker 1: Just always needs a lot of talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, always had the honor of being a part of these.
Speaker 5: You really made people hate you on Color Purple boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people hate you. It's a character.
Speaker 3: Now, man, Thank you dog. Yeah, I have a lot
Speaker 3: of people, a lot of people need to know.
Speaker 1: It's me.
Speaker 3: But when they found out, they was like what because
Speaker 3: I had to cut my mustache.
Speaker 1: So that was the first time I cut my mustard.
Speaker 3: I don't really trust niggas, you know.
Speaker 1: A long time ago. Watch it. I hated it.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go nowhere but like a month dog, and
Speaker 3: if I did, I had to mask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hated. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: The only look you can get when you save, you
Speaker 5: like you're fresh out, fresh like pins out the.
Speaker 3: Pin Only let it. It's only a coup, dudes. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let slide. I let Obama slide because I know
Speaker 3: political ship.
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley too, he'd been doing let.
Speaker 3: To be out there in Phoenix with all them white chicks.
Speaker 3: He gotta keep his ship naked. That's only where the
Speaker 3: white chick's gonna with bark Man.
Speaker 1: I let I let l and jay Z. I let
Speaker 1: them slide.
Speaker 7: That's probably, yeah, that's Markley.
Speaker 8: They never they never attempted to come to the other side.
Speaker 8: It's just always been Cleveland's just always been riding.
Speaker 5: Richard PRIs but he went must he grew Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he had the real might.
Speaker 1: He grew up. Brother went from cheat the cheek.
Speaker 3: Richard from cheat the cheap, but say he.
Speaker 1: Might have burnt.
Speaker 4: Stefinitely jo espectfully especially yet respectfully.
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 5: Richard on YouTube just oh my god, that's super.
Speaker 1: Intelligent though too, but he was say anything any fucking thing,
Speaker 1: scared moment. Yeah to it man.
Speaker 3: Great Waining brothers doing it again again another Yeah, another
Speaker 3: opportunity working with you know, an ensemble cast that is legendary.
Speaker 3: Them boys haven't been on screen with that franchise in
Speaker 3: twenty five years. They took that in twenty five years.
Speaker 3: Twenty five years since you've seen Sean on screen. He
Speaker 3: ain't been on nothing in twenty five years. They took that.
Speaker 3: They took that franchise from them boys and tried to
Speaker 3: do it themselves. And then the pot and so when they
Speaker 3: gave it, when they gave him that franchise back, I
Speaker 3: remember Marlin hit me and he was like, dude, I
Speaker 3: want you to come roc with us man, And I
Speaker 3: was like really, yeah, we got the franchise back. I
Speaker 3: was like, bet, let's do it. And then when I
Speaker 3: seen what they wanted me to do, I was like no,
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I was like, man, y'all do y'all thing
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: He was like, no, for real, No, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know, dog, I ain't sure about this.
Speaker 3: And he was like, look, we're gonna flip it and
Speaker 3: make it like our way, you know, and da da da,
Speaker 3: And I was like, so I told one of my guys.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I don't think I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Then he was like no for real and Mardyl was like, no,
Speaker 3: trust me, I got you. Once we once I got
Speaker 3: down there, we started rocking and.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I can see this. Yeah, this is good.
Speaker 3: And then I had no idea that the first day
Speaker 3: on set was the first time Seane had been on
Speaker 3: the set in twenty five years and it was his
Speaker 3: first scene and how kind of like not tense, but
Speaker 3: it was just like everybody was super focused. And I
Speaker 3: kept trying to figure out why everybody was so focused,
Speaker 3: but because I didn't know at the time, but when
Speaker 3: we was finished, I found out that this is his
Speaker 3: first scene, first scene, first shot in twenty five years,
Speaker 3: and so it was like, man, so we had to
Speaker 3: bring it in and we did, and you know, Marlon,
Speaker 3: you know, I heard he made a promise to his
Speaker 3: mother that he would work with his brothers again, and
Speaker 3: so they all came together and they did this and
Speaker 3: went out the park Man. Yeah, so we are. Everybody's excited.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for these people. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Man Man royalty the part of everybody go upbringing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're royalty, dog And I mean for them brothers
Speaker 3: to do what they do, it's something that has to
Speaker 3: be commended. Like people come, I heard everybody talking shit
Speaker 3: about the movie. I heard people talking good about the movie.
Speaker 3: But you got to understand that the way that these
Speaker 3: brothers write, you can't even write like them. They're not
Speaker 3: writing from a black point of view or a white
Speaker 3: point of view. They wiping from their point of view.
Speaker 3: People love what they do.
Speaker 1: They have their.
Speaker 3: Own ecosyst They got a Wayne ecosystem and they are
Speaker 3: going to get it, period, just like Tyler Perry got
Speaker 3: his own ecosystem. You can't be mad at what these
Speaker 3: people do. And some people be like, yeah, they corny,
Speaker 3: they did so that. Okay, motherfucker, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: Ain't a And I said this before, ain't a real
Speaker 3: nigga wrote check yet you know what I mean, you
Speaker 3: gotta be corny when you come out into this business.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of it.
Speaker 3: It's a bit of corniness that you gotta to have
Speaker 3: in order to be successful.
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey is on My fucking Family Feld. You think
Speaker 1: he the coolest nigga in the world on that he
Speaker 1: gotta have in order to reach the mask you can be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think so, yeah, that dog, But you do though,
Speaker 3: you have to have a certain amount of like in
Speaker 3: order to you got and everything.
Speaker 1: Can't be motherfucking cool like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it's ain't for you.
Speaker 3: Just it ain't for you. Don't go watch it ain't
Speaker 3: for you. I remember my mom's before. I'm not right
Speaker 3: before my mother's past. But when my mother she I
Speaker 3: remember when she came in on time, it was like
Speaker 3: this is just ago.
Speaker 1: She was, well, I love type Perry. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll be watching.
Speaker 3: That, and then she was like, nah, I like it
Speaker 3: cause my mother would go to church all the time.
Speaker 1: And she just love that kind of comedy. And they
Speaker 1: had me thinking.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, yeah, that's for her, while I
Speaker 3: look like knocking what he writes that she loves for
Speaker 3: his audience, me and her ain't gonna sit and watch
Speaker 3: the wire together, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I need to embrace this because my mother
Speaker 3: loves that. This is what she loves. That's how the
Speaker 3: Waynes is to me. Like they write for a certain demographics.
Speaker 1: My son, my son love that scary movies.
Speaker 3: Franchise love it and there's a group of people that
Speaker 3: love it out there like I love it. But if
Speaker 3: it's if other people don't like it, just understand that
Speaker 3: these brothers are writing and doing something for some people.
Speaker 3: It might not be for you, but it's for a
Speaker 3: group of people out there. They got to be out
Speaker 3: there or wouldn't have made one hundred and five million
Speaker 3: dollars in the weekend with a comedy.
Speaker 1: But numbers say different.
Speaker 5: And the same family is responsible for a lot of
Speaker 5: your favorite comedians and people.
Speaker 1: You see that they do put on so many people,
Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx. Yeah, but this.
Speaker 3: Younger generation, they key, they never uphold what got these
Speaker 3: what got other people here? Like they don't never they
Speaker 3: never give love to the people that came in front
Speaker 3: of them, you know what I mean. They always want
Speaker 3: to know what's hot, what's new, and that's sitting now.
Speaker 3: Don't give love to the people that that well.
Speaker 1: That was across the board too.
Speaker 4: I think that's not only in the film and the music,
Speaker 4: but even sports like this generation, because I just think
Speaker 4: there's so much shit going on that they don't have
Speaker 4: appreciation for the people that came before and laid the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I understand that, but at the
Speaker 3: same token, all other races do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Roland Stones is out here.
Speaker 3: Selling now a hundred million, one hundred thousand cied the
Speaker 3: Arenas and it's all ages up in that board. I
Speaker 3: don't understand why we can't have like motherfucking line of
Speaker 3: Richie do the same thing, right, Why can't we have
Speaker 3: my fucking new edition do the same.
Speaker 1: You just did a hundred and fifteen K and Turkey
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen K and Turkey. That's what he did, right, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what ago. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: They're still doing nothings like that. It's crazy doing numbers
Speaker 3: like that. I mean, getting it like yay is. But
Speaker 3: I'm saying like for a lot of our older demographic,
Speaker 3: I mean, our older people, they can't they they're not
Speaker 3: revered like that. A lot of people don't Even if
Speaker 3: I was an older motherfucker and people then show up
Speaker 3: to me. I stopped letting my fuck sample my music.
Speaker 3: Fact fact be like, you know what, fuck y'all if
Speaker 3: you if if y'all don't want to y'all y'all fucking me,
Speaker 3: y'all constantly using my music to sample, but you don't
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 1: Come see my shows? I don't know. I might, I
Speaker 1: might not because you still got to get some money.
Speaker 5: Watch the Men and new addition that Tony Braxton did
Speaker 5: a collab concert and they broke records. They broke records,
Speaker 5: They sold out in the lound for like five nights straight.
Speaker 3: Dude, it can be done if people just come and
Speaker 3: they support. We have to support. We have to do
Speaker 3: it like we just have to. But we also have
Speaker 3: to do it for like Diana Ross. We gotta do
Speaker 3: it for Stevie Wonder. Yeah, we gotta do it for
Speaker 3: our icons.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That that we got that we got left, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean because we don't have many lets.
Speaker 4: Recently was that the Roots picnic jay Z, Dave Chappelle,
Speaker 4: the name a few obviously, the whole talk of the
Speaker 4: picnic was jay Z's freestyle, the way he had his
Speaker 4: hair and who we went at which kind of you're
Speaker 4: taking What was the energy around that being in that room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I hosted through the Roots Picnic and the
Speaker 3: day before we had a comedy shows me Sam J.
Speaker 3: De Chappelle. We did it for Tarik black Thawk. He
Speaker 3: had a comedy show. Right right after that. We go
Speaker 3: over across the street this venue. Jay is rehearsing. He's
Speaker 3: about to rehearse and ship. So we go over there
Speaker 3: and were chilling. We go in the back room, you know,
Speaker 3: be everybody there, right, Jake come out.
Speaker 1: You got a hoodie on, and he's just chilling.
Speaker 3: He go on stage and he rocking in front of
Speaker 3: two hundred people, like rehearsing and stuff, with this hoodie
Speaker 3: on the whole time. And I'm thinking to myself, he
Speaker 3: got the hoodie on. You know, I gotta be hot.
Speaker 3: But I'm just like whatever, maybe there's some cool ship,
Speaker 3: you know how Jay do some ship everybody right right?
Speaker 3: So now I'm like looking up hoodies and.
Speaker 1: Ship there, like looking at this.
Speaker 3: Let me get this hoodie. This nigga got everybody else.
Speaker 1: Stupid.
Speaker 3: So the next day, I uh bring him on and
Speaker 3: you just don't see him like you just you know,
Speaker 3: just got this video package tens and Ship. And then
Speaker 3: dude come on stage, Dog, and I'm like, snoop.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I said. Dog. I ain't even boh,
Speaker 1: I said snoop.
Speaker 3: He came out of the front, Dog, I'm like, shoot
Speaker 3: dreads out there.
Speaker 1: Like then when he started rocking, I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 3: But then I missed like fifteen minutes of the goddamn
Speaker 3: concert because these niggas trying to kick me out and
Speaker 3: Ship Yeah, Dog Scurity just security super Ship was hosted, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: you introduced her.
Speaker 1: Dog introduced hug this documented I got the dog.
Speaker 3: I go to backstay, I go to the side. I'm
Speaker 3: over there. You know, family come over being them. I
Speaker 3: was just with them last night. I'm over there, jam
Speaker 3: and the Ship you know these came up. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: gotta go and I'm like wow, and it's like, cause
Speaker 3: it's for the family, I'm gonna come hosting.
Speaker 1: They're like yeah, fuck all that.
Speaker 3: And then this woman, this woman, this woman that work
Speaker 3: for I don't know who the fuck she worked for.
Speaker 1: She come over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta move, get him out of here, and
Speaker 3: he's grabbing me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dogs, like, calm down, Dog, they like, nah,
Speaker 1: you gotta go.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I'm not leaving dog, and they so
Speaker 3: then they tried to surround me and just hold me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dog, I'm hosting dog. What is wrong with y'all?
Speaker 1: They like, nah, no, you you gotta go. And if
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna move right now, we're gonna move you soon.
Speaker 3: Fat Joe and his people come now. They there's a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of them. They coming through security trying to
Speaker 3: hold them off of shit.
Speaker 1: And they got me.
Speaker 3: It's just chaotic back there right be over here dancing.
Speaker 3: She got a bodyguard dude that back back there, standing there,
Speaker 3: and she look over and the bodyguard dude look over.
Speaker 3: He see me over there is chilling arguing with these dudes.
Speaker 1: And he was.
Speaker 3: Like this, hey, now what they did before that? They
Speaker 3: put a gate.
Speaker 1: I sweated.
Speaker 3: I'm not like they put a gate between me and Beyonce,
Speaker 3: and so I wouldn't come over there. I swear to you,
Speaker 3: Dog was one of them gates that He's one of
Speaker 3: those like like that to keep people walking. Barriers put
Speaker 3: that there, and I was like, I ain't budget, I'm
Speaker 3: a stand I just stood that dog. And I was
Speaker 3: so mad dog and then finally b body gud saw me,
Speaker 3: told them, moved the gate and let me come over there.
Speaker 1: And they moved a gate and.
Speaker 3: I just walked through that motherfucking like like I was
Speaker 3: a bad bitch or something.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 3: I was like, mother fucking.
Speaker 1: Is like, yo, hey, We're sorry.
Speaker 3: We was just I was like, man, for real, thing,
Speaker 3: gotta look up niggas four four songs in, five songs in,
Speaker 3: and then missed the goddamn freestyle, missed all that.
Speaker 1: Ship. Dude.
Speaker 3: I was like, you motherfucker's dog. But then after that,
Speaker 3: I was it was it was a good time. But security, nigga,
Speaker 3: how you introduced Like what you say, Nigga, I wasn't
Speaker 3: even supposed to, Like they told me introduce everybody direct
Speaker 3: on the tour except for J. They said Jay got
Speaker 3: his own package, so don't introduce J. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: the fuck.
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna come out hand and introduce Jay.
Speaker 1: So I kept a mic on me. I gave him
Speaker 1: a dummy mic and.
Speaker 3: Kept the mic on and ship just chilling the sitting nigga,
Speaker 3: and I waited, it's a video that on my post, Nigga.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna need bulltsh it.
Speaker 3: I was walking across the stage o to the DJ
Speaker 3: booth and I was like, yo, yo, Philly, make some noise.
Speaker 3: You can actually hear this white dude that's on the
Speaker 3: PA system that's running the ship.
Speaker 1: He didn't know his voice throughout the whole ship. He went,
Speaker 1: I really don't know what's going on right now, but
Speaker 1: just go with.
Speaker 3: It exactly what he said it because because I was like, yeah, yo,
Speaker 3: yo yo. And so they came over and they was like,
Speaker 3: cut the music. They told her to cut the music to.
Speaker 3: When she cut the music, I was like, this all right,
Speaker 3: everybody give it up for the one and only James,
Speaker 3: the Roots and jay Z.
Speaker 1: And this white They came snatched and then the security
Speaker 1: tried to kick me out.
Speaker 4: But other than that nigga, that little dunstuff, it.
Speaker 1: Was yeah, but you gotta get it.
Speaker 3: I was like, because they I say, I ain't coming
Speaker 3: this fire just to come this far. I'm introducing this dude.
Speaker 3: And man, we did and good time and shout out
Speaker 3: to the Roots, Quest Love and Reek everybody.
Speaker 1: Man, such a good time.
Speaker 3: Eric about dude, Brandy man Cline, great man.
Speaker 1: We had a great Yeah. She gave you. I think
Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't know anybody know that she
Speaker 1: is Uh, you gave her juice, you guys. That's how
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: That's how you know that I took a juice to
Speaker 5: what you.
Speaker 4: Took.
Speaker 1: Anybody taking Jesus gay.
Speaker 3: That's great, that's what you're saying about birthday. Okay, all right,
Speaker 3: that's no. Everybody kept saying that I ain't know that.
Speaker 3: They was like, yo, is she?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I know, is she? I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: she did this.
Speaker 3: Act when she was sitting on a woman's laughing, I
Speaker 3: act like she was kissing and ship like that. She
Speaker 3: had an at the party. And I went to the
Speaker 3: after party and I walked over there and it was
Speaker 3: just niggas everywhere, nigga and I walk over there, I'm like, sup,
Speaker 3: shup and everybody's just like hard niggas over there.
Speaker 1: When I and more and more I was over there,
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, oh, Ship, it's like
Speaker 1: a bunch of gay dudes over there. But they look rough.
Speaker 1: I guess nowadays.
Speaker 3: I think nowadays gay dudes is into like rugged gay periods.
Speaker 3: They look they're looking for men, he said Man Jam
Speaker 3: Man Man Jam.
Speaker 1: Some ship, I said, they like me, and man, that's up.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Let's move on my old space.
Speaker 4: Coming some obviously some other stuff kind of going wrong.
Speaker 4: It's it's obviously died down a little bit. But the
Speaker 4: Kevin Hart roast we all know, and obviously you've been
Speaker 4: in the space for a long time. Roast is supposed
Speaker 4: to be a certain way, and obviously his roast leaned
Speaker 4: towards a lot of racism. I mean I was actually
Speaker 4: there and saw it and some ship I laughed at you,
Speaker 4: shure I didn't laugh at What did you think about
Speaker 4: the pushback from that situation?
Speaker 1: I think people.
Speaker 3: My added some extras on in this ship. You knew
Speaker 3: what she was getting. It's Kevin, it's a rose. You
Speaker 3: knew what she was getting. Did they say some ship
Speaker 3: that was bullshit? Yes, they definitely said some stuff that
Speaker 3: I was like, what it didn't make no sense, Like
Speaker 3: telling him he can be hung by he could be
Speaker 3: lynched on a bunside tree like.
Speaker 1: That to me was like, you can't write nothing.
Speaker 3: How many other jokes did you have on your paper
Speaker 3: that you went, Now, this one's gonna work.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the one. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I'm a writer.
Speaker 3: I've been writing for years, you know, I wrote for
Speaker 3: Conan for several years. I'm know how to write a joke,
Speaker 3: and i know what to take to write a joke,
Speaker 3: you know. So whether it be clean or whatever, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I love a good joke, Like, I don't care how
Speaker 3: offensive it is. If it's good, I'm I'm I gotta
Speaker 3: put my hands up and go. That shit was funny
Speaker 3: in the motherfucker though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that just wasn't. It hadn't.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't funny and shit, you know, even the
Speaker 3: George Floyd should it was like, what.
Speaker 1: Does that have to do with anything? It's like, and
Speaker 1: why is he looking up? That's what That's what I kept.
Speaker 3: Thinking to myself, Like they was like he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's looking up, and I'm like, like he was choking
Speaker 3: looking up or he was in hell looking but what
Speaker 3: do you I didn't get it, you know, and so
Speaker 3: I just kind of like, you know, just shot back,
Speaker 3: like all right, I guess this is the new way
Speaker 3: of roasting, That's all. I kept saying, this must be
Speaker 3: the new way of roasting. And I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure how this goes. But I kind of felt
Speaker 3: like a hypocrite afterwards because because I'm not gonna let
Speaker 3: a couple jokes go, the whole night wasn't good to me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was decent.
Speaker 3: I thought it was it was a good show, but
Speaker 3: I kind of felt weird because I was like, man,
Speaker 3: some bullshit, and I do, oh Kevin an apology because
Speaker 3: right after that he had an after party and I
Speaker 3: was just sitting there like, damn, I do wonder why
Speaker 3: do nigga said the most dumbass jokes? And I saw
Speaker 3: Kevin and I was like that shit was a amazing brother.
Speaker 1: He's doing Man, this is great.
Speaker 3: And I felt so fucking like an asshole. I should
Speaker 3: have been like, hey man, let me talk to you.
Speaker 3: But I was sitting there like, man, that was some
Speaker 3: boys shit, Kevin, that was amazing, brother, and I shouldn't
Speaker 3: have did that. And I was like, damn, I feel bad.
Speaker 3: I want to tell Kevin how I really felt about it.
Speaker 3: But I thought that it was a great show. I
Speaker 3: thought that I thought that it was a decent show.
Speaker 3: I just wish they really took time to write for
Speaker 3: the few jokes that was in there, and even that
Speaker 3: Tony dude. I'm gonna be honest. Tony is a cool dude.
Speaker 3: He really is me a funny dude. And but when
Speaker 3: he get in these situations, he always he always crossed
Speaker 3: the line.
Speaker 1: But other than that, he's just a super cool dude.
Speaker 1: He really is.
Speaker 3: I'd have worked with him several times, so I'm not,
Speaker 3: you know, overlooking that one joke that he told that
Speaker 3: was ill or whatever.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's he's he's he's a decent guy.
Speaker 3: So I just wish that they took their time and
Speaker 3: had somebody look at that ship and really go, you know,
Speaker 3: because because I'm quite sure somebody have to look at
Speaker 3: something in order to agree.
Speaker 1: But just go. Kevin called me like because I don't
Speaker 1: I need to put that together. I'm sorry, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't like what he called me, like you saying
Speaker 5: stuff that I already know because I watched Roast.
Speaker 1: I understand Rosy laugh at them ship.
Speaker 5: I joke on people, so I understand the whole point
Speaker 5: of Roast, But what I had to explain the care.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna always support Cave because that's my guy. I
Speaker 5: wish from the best, but it's joking on dead people.
Speaker 5: It's just it's just not some people's taste, and you
Speaker 5: have to understand that, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that's what you're getting a flag from. It's a
Speaker 5: lot of people that really love these people that y'all
Speaker 5: joking on. They even joked about his pops. I didn't
Speaker 5: laugh at that, you know what I'm saying, because it's
Speaker 5: not funny because these people, these people can't defend themselves.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Are you gonna laugh when somebody in your family died
Speaker 5: and they come to your doorstep? Like if somebody joke
Speaker 5: on it is not funny no more, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So that was the conversation me and keV had,
Speaker 5: and I'm glad he called me because when I spoke
Speaker 5: on it, I didn't say his name because that's my god.
Speaker 5: We love keV and I didn't want to think I
Speaker 5: love mean to him. I went straight at Tony because
Speaker 5: he said the joke. I understand what keV doing.
Speaker 1: It's the show.
Speaker 5: I wanted the show to be successful. But the guy Tony,
Speaker 5: he had to hear my response from it, because shit,
Speaker 5: I'm the one got to go back to George Floyd
Speaker 5: daughter when she asked me why people still talking about Hi?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I got to explain these things, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: so people don't think about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you? Did you feel some kind of way?
Speaker 5: Soon as soon as I saw I was watching the show,
Speaker 5: I stopped the show and went on Instagram because that's
Speaker 5: just something that I would never do. We don't do
Speaker 5: that on our show. The mean people to get ahead.
Speaker 5: That's just weak to me, especially people that's not here.
Speaker 5: They can't defeel himself. And I don't care who it is.
Speaker 5: I didn't like the joke about Charlie Kirk, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And he said the worst ship about
Speaker 5: George Floyd. But I still don't wish that for nobody,
Speaker 5: you mean dead people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He got kids. They got to hear people joking about it.
Speaker 5: You don't know how they taking it, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, So people don't look at it. So, like
Speaker 5: I said, I understand the roast. I laughed at it,
Speaker 5: but certain jokes just not everybody tastes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, No, I feel you one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I love cav and I understand what
Speaker 3: keV was doing, and I understand everybody was pushing the envelope.
Speaker 3: I just wish somebody was there to just be like,
Speaker 3: I don't know about that one, but I guess they
Speaker 3: was like, we're just gonna let it all fly and
Speaker 3: then we're gonna see what happened.
Speaker 1: And we saw what happened, and you know, but did
Speaker 1: you see what's that? What's that doctor? Dude name?
Speaker 3: Uh the black the black doctor?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was saying something like he said
Speaker 3: something like Kevin, if y'all let that ever happen again.
Speaker 1: I was like, come on now, mother, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: And then that's the thing, like that's when get you
Speaker 5: fun like cloud chasing. Yea, y'all ain't got a dog
Speaker 5: in a fight, y'all know what's Kevin trying to get cloud?
Speaker 1: Like? I hated that to it we.
Speaker 9: Gonna cancels, right, So yeah, that's it's just it gets
Speaker 9: cloudy when everybody starts stepping in and having their little.
Speaker 1: You know, so shot doc this year, bro, bro, I
Speaker 1: don't like him.
Speaker 10: I have a question though, as like, as a as
Speaker 10: a comage yourself now, yeah, as a comment yourself now,
Speaker 10: does your material have to be a little different or
Speaker 10: are you a little bit more aware of what you're saying?
Speaker 10: Because like old school, I was born in the eighties,
Speaker 10: they used to say what in the fuck every day want?
Speaker 1: As long as it was funny.
Speaker 4: Do you feel now these days you have to kind
Speaker 4: of watch yourself a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think we got a little bit more freedom than
Speaker 3: what we had about a year ago. Two years ago,
Speaker 3: we got a little bit more freedom. And the more
Speaker 3: that we keep knocking the ceiling off this motherfucker and
Speaker 3: keep saying what we want to say, people are gonna
Speaker 3: have to deal with it. My problem is this, if
Speaker 3: you come to a comedy club and we're saying some
Speaker 3: shit that you don't want, all right, motherfucker. You came
Speaker 3: in our church exactly, that's our church. We are there
Speaker 3: having our own discussions, talking about fucked up shit, talk
Speaker 3: about shit we think it's funny, and because you can't
Speaker 3: handle it, you want to come in here and try
Speaker 3: to cancel motherfuckers for what they saying or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, get the fuck out of here. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't be here.
Speaker 3: Just leave, Like, why do you feel like you want
Speaker 3: to cancel motherfucker because we're not saying what you want.
Speaker 1: It's dumb as fuck.
Speaker 3: So I think people are starting to understand that now,
Speaker 3: and people are being more leanient to what we can
Speaker 3: and cannot say. And plus a lot of places, you know,
Speaker 3: we're starting to lock up motherfucker's phones. You know, you
Speaker 3: come to a show that motherfucker locked fuck up. But
Speaker 3: we and we're gonna roll, you know. So that's how
Speaker 3: we are, that's how we getting it right now whatever,
Speaker 3: Like well, we're being being able to say what we
Speaker 3: want to say again because ain't nobody there to document
Speaker 3: that ship.
Speaker 5: He goes so far on this stand ups, he'll go
Speaker 5: in his pocket, you know what, Let me try to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read right on my phone. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: For the Chicago to Mecca comedy, the Mecca.
Speaker 3: Ship, I'm gonna say yeah from there, I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 3: say that. But it's so many great places for comedy.
Speaker 3: You know, I think d C got a roster of
Speaker 3: great comics, you know what I mean, roster great comics.
Speaker 1: New York, l A.
Speaker 3: You know, Atlanta, Atlanta got great comics. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a lot of great people and people
Speaker 3: that's you know, spread it out throughout the country or whatever.
Speaker 3: But as far as like having a collective group of comics,
Speaker 3: Chicago has always been prided on the originality. You know,
Speaker 3: each comic was different, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: everybody was totally different, which made you stand out, you know,
Speaker 3: And a lot of times you go a lot of places,
Speaker 3: everybody kind of sound the same.
Speaker 1: And especially now, like you can go somewhere here six Kevin.
Speaker 3: Hartz eight, Corey Holkos six Wonder Sykes, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like and and and it gets kind
Speaker 3: of like repetitious and you're just like all right already.
Speaker 3: But back in the day, it was how original you
Speaker 3: were and how different you was that that that stood
Speaker 3: you out there. Yeah, and so these different places like
Speaker 3: Chicago and you know, they had that, they had that
Speaker 3: kind of roster.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say some names. Would you think Bernie Mack
Speaker 5: what what you mean? What I think?
Speaker 1: I mean when you first hear the name, they like.
Speaker 3: Master since yeah, that's where I worked with Bernie several nights. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was hesta running club called Cotton Club and the
Speaker 3: club called Melchionaiers and the only way you can get
Speaker 3: on is if you can follow him.
Speaker 1: That was it. So if you could follow him after
Speaker 1: him bringing you on and he was good. But other
Speaker 1: than that, you know, you would never work there again
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 3: But that was the since the following Bernie is crazy
Speaker 3: crazy Red Fox.
Speaker 1: Man godfather, Red Fox is like.
Speaker 5: Just just just boss two thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Foxes Foxes that dude, Jack. Yeah, yeah, he was definitely
Speaker 3: one and the ones. Robin Harris, another Chicago great. Robin
Speaker 3: Harris was fearless Jack, fearless his hair and off the
Speaker 3: dome like baby coming. That's classic forever, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But his his his his freestyle game was
Speaker 3: even more you know, crazy, like he'd just grab a
Speaker 3: mic dog go two hours later you dying, everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Bill Murray.
Speaker 3: Bill Murray is great, great actor, one of the greatest
Speaker 3: that ever did, especially improv His subtlety was was his
Speaker 3: was his daily strike man. Just the subtle human that
Speaker 3: he would have he could just have to give a
Speaker 3: look and then to destroy as if it was a
Speaker 3: whole written joke, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was. He was one of He's definitely
Speaker 1: one of the masters as well. Dray Davis.
Speaker 3: That's my little brother. That's my little brother in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Used to live down the street for me. He was
Speaker 3: like raised by one of my best friends, Chris. And
Speaker 3: before comedy, d Ray was just just a little little
Speaker 3: cute little boy riding around the neighborhood on his bike,
Speaker 3: all nice and.
Speaker 1: Ship and hey Dianne.
Speaker 3: And you'd be like, hey, what's up, man, it's a
Speaker 3: little bro in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: We praised him and all that.
Speaker 3: And then when he turned eighteen years old, he got
Speaker 3: married to a very beautiful girl and he loved her
Speaker 3: and he cherished her.
Speaker 1: He's just with her all the time. Man. Then she
Speaker 1: cheated on him with a drug dealer.
Speaker 3: And uh after that, d Ray been on these holes.
Speaker 1: He keeps on being on this.
Speaker 4: Indeed one of the best in eventsiness.
Speaker 3: I want to let you know that keep flop.
Speaker 4: Bad.
Speaker 1: Yes, man, we think that whole.
Speaker 2: He got.
Speaker 3: I saw d one time in Atlanta. I went to
Speaker 3: go see d I ain't boy shi. He was a
Speaker 3: woman in the back. He was about to go stage.
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, cool. He was like, I see
Speaker 3: I want I have a good show. He was, I
Speaker 3: was have a good shown. Have a good show man.
Speaker 3: I have a show all up kissing them all, dating
Speaker 3: all three of them. And I was just sitting there like,
Speaker 3: what the am I doing the wrong?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's dating all three.
Speaker 3: They was all his girlfriends tripped out the shout out
Speaker 3: to the career.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not from Chicago, Peoria, that's close enough.
Speaker 3: But Richard Pryor, come on, man, that's uh that's godlike
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? That's Richie Richard Richard is Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's nothing above that. It's anybody you see doing
Speaker 3: stand up. I don't care what color he is. It's Richard.
Speaker 3: It's Richard, like my definitely Richard.
Speaker 1: I uh my funny on you show.
Speaker 3: I had Polly Polly Shore on and just did Polly Shore.
Speaker 3: Polly sure as the dude, y'all should have on head
Speaker 3: Polly Shore because his mother owned the comedy store.
Speaker 1: Missy she's still on the comedy store for the past
Speaker 1: or whatever. She's the one who gave everybody they break.
Speaker 1: So PAULI, as a kid, used to.
Speaker 3: Sit there dog and watch these Robin Harris, Richard Sam Kennison,
Speaker 3: George Garland, Ellen DeGeneres.
Speaker 1: He would just watch Arsenio.
Speaker 3: He would watch them night after night for years, and
Speaker 3: he would just sit there and they were all kick
Speaker 3: it with him, hang out with him because his mother
Speaker 3: owned the club, so they would cool with him, cool
Speaker 3: with him, hanging out, giving him gifts and kicking it.
Speaker 1: But the knowledge that boy got on stand up man,
Speaker 1: you should have them. That's an interesting call.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how big he was and.
Speaker 1: MTV you geez.
Speaker 4: I mean we remember him and then see no man,
Speaker 4: and I never know it was until I moved to
Speaker 4: and see me to.
Speaker 2: Live on the same street for a long time.
Speaker 1: We didn't even know it.
Speaker 2: We did some ship for what was his name? What
Speaker 2: was the show we did together?
Speaker 1: First ranking?
Speaker 4: That was right around the corner from my house, and
Speaker 4: so so you live on, so so I live on.
Speaker 1: You didn't even know it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they had no idea, man, But yeah, yeah, good guy.
Speaker 6: Richard Prole was that dude. I just was thinking of
Speaker 6: something when you said his name. Richard Pride told Clarence
Speaker 6: with the spoon recipes. Bank Bank, Bank Bank, He told
Speaker 6: the man, I ain't never told the people how the
Speaker 6: first time I met you. He was like, Yeah, I
Speaker 6: was on my way to the bathroom when I caught you,
Speaker 6: and I'm making the ship Saudwich.
Speaker 1: I said, no, go get your job. Get your job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Richie the Great man definitely definitely not related. But
Speaker 3: give me your comedic thoughts on Bill Cosby. Man, Bill Cosby,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be Richie pryor.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Bill Cosby set the tone jack for everybody. He was
Speaker 3: like one of the first black comics that was, you know,
Speaker 3: revered and accepted. They accepted and it was great. It
Speaker 3: was a move, a bona fide movie star, TV star,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That was getting it. And
Speaker 3: I mean you can never take away what he done,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and all the people he
Speaker 3: inspired to do what he what he does whatever, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: Cosby was one of the.
Speaker 5: Great only black family that did it the right way
Speaker 5: for years.
Speaker 3: Man, come on, man, like that's what it was and
Speaker 3: you can't you can't take that away. Also heard something
Speaker 3: about him that I'm not sure if it's true or not,
Speaker 3: but I heard that during Doctor Luther, Doctor Martin Luther
Speaker 3: King's speech I have a dream, he bought the PA system.
Speaker 3: I heard that too, Yeah, he bought the PA system
Speaker 3: for them to have to have to speak, for having
Speaker 3: to speech like he bought that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: and so many people told me that. I was just like, wow,
Speaker 3: that's that's real. But everybody tell me that. So when
Speaker 3: you have a person like that that has done these
Speaker 3: kinds of things throughout history, I mean, you can't take
Speaker 3: that away from regardless of what's going on.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's he was one of the pioneers of this.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, sometimes in this kind of little offsect a little
Speaker 4: bit on, sometimes you have to separate the talent from
Speaker 4: the person. And I learned that when I came to
Speaker 4: La like being fans of people and meet them, I'm like, oh, bro,
Speaker 4: I still fuck with your music, But yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, you just kind of have to remove
Speaker 4: remove you look at R Kelly, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: obviously say with you what incredible artists. You know what
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't, like to your point, you can't
Speaker 4: erase what he's the impact he's made in music, but
Speaker 4: you know people have a different opinion about him as
Speaker 4: a person. Sometimes when you meet these people just kind
Speaker 4: of have to remove it and appreciate the talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, like you you can't take It's
Speaker 3: like I guess Weinstein do you erase all those movies
Speaker 3: he produced. They still sell them, you can still rent them, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You don't take away what
Speaker 3: they've done already.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's they still accomplish what
Speaker 1: they slippery slope these days. It is about it.
Speaker 3: You can talk about it, right because somebody, right now,
Speaker 3: somebody gonna be like you like Whitstein.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'm just saying, like, do you take
Speaker 1: away because.
Speaker 3: It's a conversation to be had, do you take away
Speaker 3: the contributions that these people have given you or not?
Speaker 1: Like? Is that is that a if you do if
Speaker 1: you don't. Right.
Speaker 3: I feel like when it comes to music, no matter
Speaker 3: what somebody does, and maybe even movies or whatever, I
Speaker 3: feel like music is bookmarks to life with no question.
Speaker 3: So when you hear a song, you remember where you was,
Speaker 3: what you was doing, who you was with. Right, So,
Speaker 3: because somebody did something stupid, am I supposed to take
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 1: Of my life?
Speaker 3: Because when they made that song, that song becomes yours
Speaker 3: when they make it. That's why women be like, that's
Speaker 3: my song, and yeah, it's your song.
Speaker 1: Now this it commaborates the time that you had when
Speaker 1: that song came.
Speaker 3: Out, you know, you know, it's a book mark or whatever.
Speaker 3: So do you take that out of your life?
Speaker 1: You don't?
Speaker 3: Or do I stop listening to that? Because that song
Speaker 3: comes with a lot of other things, So do I
Speaker 3: take Do I take that away?
Speaker 1: Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think you do, because that song is mine,
Speaker 3: you know, and so I don't think that. I think
Speaker 3: you can separate the two in a sense.
Speaker 1: You know, great, did you ever perform at all? Josephside Club?
Speaker 1: Loved it?
Speaker 3: That's where I started at all jokes Aside, Raymond Lambert,
Speaker 3: Mary Lindsay James. They started a comedy club that was
Speaker 3: black owned, Black ran first comedy black comedy club with
Speaker 3: uniforms with just no bar and mofucker's walking around the
Speaker 3: T shirts and ship like it was dress shirts and
Speaker 3: black pants and uniforms with logos and it was like that,
Speaker 3: and it's the first of its kind in the country.
Speaker 1: And uh, to have that ship right down the street
Speaker 1: from where I lived was you know something else, you know, to.
Speaker 3: Go see everybody come there and black excellence and perform
Speaker 3: and see everybody that came out to the show.
Speaker 1: It to be a marras shod.
Speaker 3: And Michael Jordans and the Bears, and they would all
Speaker 3: come out and come hang out, and everybody fresh. In
Speaker 3: the wintertime, it'd be my fucking fifteen degrees. Everybody out
Speaker 3: and they Minx first Gators, and everybody's sitting up, rolls,
Speaker 3: Royces and ship all outside. Everybody chilling, big shit, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, sitting up, having a good goddamn time, laughing,
Speaker 3: jumping back in their shit and rolling out going.
Speaker 1: To the club down the street or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: It was a thing to see that because it was
Speaker 3: like black excellence. It was almost like the Roaring twenties,
Speaker 3: almost like shit like that all the place. Man, they
Speaker 3: used to pull up John Singletarry, you know, then pull
Speaker 3: up God Oakley, a pull up everybody pull up like
Speaker 3: it was like excellence on top of all the pimps
Speaker 3: and drug.
Speaker 1: Forget that they gonna be there too.
Speaker 4: Since you mentioned it, I mean, obviously you growing up
Speaker 4: during some historical sporting times in Chicago. Any run ins
Speaker 4: with Michael Jordan the Bulls, or Walter Payton and the Bears,
Speaker 4: or Andre Dawson in the Cubs, any any stories from
Speaker 4: back there.
Speaker 3: Dog So at the Cotton Club, which is where I
Speaker 3: was telling Bernie Mack used to host that, right. All
Speaker 3: the bears and bulls used to hang out the Natsu, right,
Speaker 3: so they used to come on there and see like Bernie, right,
Speaker 3: I remember this like yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm not even lying. I had a shirt on and
Speaker 1: it had the.
Speaker 3: Bulls right, all all in like seventies clothes with afros,
Speaker 3: and the ship said the Phil Jackson five. That's what
Speaker 3: the ship said, right, Pipp and walk in that motherfucker And.
Speaker 1: This before uh, before I knew about.
Speaker 3: Shirt screenings and any like people making up ship. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: did they do this or not? You know, Pipping just
Speaker 3: happened to walk in the club and I asked them.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, y'all took this picture.
Speaker 3: Man, motherfucker got me by my face dog and muffed
Speaker 3: me into this garbage can. I just like rolled down
Speaker 3: and goddamn the hour and shit of the club, Like.
Speaker 1: What the fuck dude.
Speaker 3: I just got up and was like I just asked, motherfucker,
Speaker 3: and I just walked out the club and ship the
Speaker 3: boys they got much by dog. Yeah, that was about
Speaker 3: my only bullstoy.
Speaker 1: I'm not even got by my face, Like, get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here with that shirt like what I
Speaker 1: was like that.
Speaker 3: But as far as the game teams, Dog, the whole
Speaker 3: city was shut down. You gotta understand, Dog, y'all know,
Speaker 3: I well, I forgot where I'm at. But them boys
Speaker 3: was rock stars. Them wasn't There wasn't no, they wasn't
Speaker 3: basketball players. It was rock bags, the Beatles, them motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 3: When they played, the city was shut completely down.
Speaker 1: And it's different than.
Speaker 3: Like I think, like Lebron the Golden State of like
Speaker 3: like they it's these teams that had these runs or whatever.
Speaker 1: But this is the balls. It was different, Dog. It
Speaker 1: was you had to be there.
Speaker 3: It was bigger than basketball, Like Mike was Cole the
Speaker 3: best that ever played, but it was just bigger than that.
Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, it was. It was
Speaker 3: almost like watching a movie every time the game come on,
Speaker 3: and then when you move into like Rodman coming and
Speaker 3: that was a whole nother Like it was like watching
Speaker 3: a movie. Like the characters was Jordan's Pipping and Rodman
Speaker 3: and you would watch this ship just for the antics
Speaker 3: of Rodman or watching Pipping go off or you know,
Speaker 3: Mike just do some old silly ship.
Speaker 4: But they were so good. I mean somehow w GM
Speaker 4: was on across the country. That's back when it was
Speaker 4: just basic cable. But WGN was all the way out
Speaker 4: here on the Catch the Bulls, we catch the Cubs.
Speaker 1: It was crazy.
Speaker 4: W GN was on and we would see Bulls games
Speaker 4: and CALLI like, we wouldn't see no other regional games.
Speaker 5: We just see Bulls games all of a sudden, you
Speaker 5: y'all playing with Mike he did. I played for him
Speaker 5: and against him. I missed him by a year by year.
Speaker 5: I played with him intimidating. I played against him my
Speaker 5: last year, I mean his last year when he was okay.
Speaker 1: But you're just being all like you just like it's
Speaker 1: just really Jordan Nigga, I'm for real. First the first
Speaker 1: couple of months that was out his necked up.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, when you meet him, when you when
Speaker 5: you his rs, I'm like, I tell the first time
Speaker 5: I met him, I played it.
Speaker 1: I was playing in uh.
Speaker 5: I think Atlanta, you know, I was playing Golden State
Speaker 5: and we'll beat him. I'm coming out the thing. I
Speaker 5: heard somebody come from behind me. Had a great game.
Speaker 5: Great game, motherfucker, great game and a great game. I'm like,
Speaker 5: who the fuck is this, but like just a smell
Speaker 5: just came.
Speaker 1: I'm like this, m J. I ain't see him with that,
Speaker 1: and I turned around almost passed off like a little female.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was pasted up to
Speaker 1: play it off, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But from him then breaks me like Jordan, the best player,
Speaker 5: able to tell you good game.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like that ship that you pete on yourself, I didn't
Speaker 5: pee on myself. Next thing, you know, I'm playing for
Speaker 5: him now. I got a shoot deal, you know, you
Speaker 5: gave me a shoot deal and all that. But like
Speaker 5: just just the first time you meet somebody like that.
Speaker 3: Ye yeah, I mean I met him a couple of times,
Speaker 3: and just meeting dude it's like crazy, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But playing with dude, it's like a whole
Speaker 3: nother goddamn level.
Speaker 1: Do you know him?
Speaker 2: No, Matt, I don't know him like Jack does.
Speaker 4: I met him and coming across him a couple of times,
Speaker 4: but no, like real MJ. Stories. But we've been trying
Speaker 4: to get him on the show since we started.
Speaker 5: So maybe we went to NASCAR and got he called
Speaker 5: and got us on the phone.
Speaker 1: We was a Nascar. Yeah, I went there too, car
Speaker 1: if you're there today.
Speaker 4: I would never really want to watch it on TV
Speaker 4: until I went behind the scenes and saw how it works,
Speaker 4: and it just changed my whole.
Speaker 1: And changed my whole perspective of that ship.
Speaker 3: It was and I met like black dudes that brew yeah,
Speaker 3: that had been with them for years, and how they
Speaker 3: got started with them and all that crew.
Speaker 4: Is an interesting story about how they select them. And
Speaker 4: we were actually talking about like the black pit crews
Speaker 4: and what they went through and it was dope.
Speaker 5: We found out a lot of them are ex football players.
Speaker 1: I was just about to bring that up.
Speaker 3: The dude, the mastermind was the black dude who was
Speaker 3: who said he used to go see ex football players
Speaker 3: that wasn't playing no more and he would grab them
Speaker 3: because of their hand in our coordination in order to
Speaker 3: motherfucking grab a tire, snatched the motherfucker off and on
Speaker 3: within eight seconds.
Speaker 1: Seven brother, No, this was like.
Speaker 3: Kind of brown skins older dude, a little older dude
Speaker 3: that that was running in or whatever.
Speaker 1: But he was he was called but Nascar is dope.
Speaker 4: Definitely lowest stand up moment for you. We asked him
Speaker 4: the same question. He said, he was performing at a
Speaker 4: male strip club called Sweet Cheeks. You got any wild
Speaker 4: stories as you were trying to come up and establish
Speaker 4: yourself in this business, man.
Speaker 1: Don't no. In nineteen ninety two August, I don't know
Speaker 1: because it's Chili fifty six, I was on the butt
Speaker 1: Wiser superfestur and that was my first day.
Speaker 3: And I went out there and was in Indianapolis, and
Speaker 3: I went out and I said, how y'all doing? And
Speaker 3: these motherfuckers threw shit at me that should not be
Speaker 3: at a rat concert. Golf balls, cold hangers, pringles cans.
Speaker 3: It was just all kinds of bullshit that wasn't even
Speaker 3: at the concession stand, my nigga. They were throwing shit
Speaker 3: at me, and they was throwing full concession stand drinks with.
Speaker 1: The lid on them, so when they hit on impact,
Speaker 1: they exploded.
Speaker 3: God, and they hit me with these motherfuckers, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I said, oh, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: They were still hitting me, and so I was like,
Speaker 1: I ain't going nowhere then until you respect me and
Speaker 1: to promote on.
Speaker 3: The side of get your glass off, and I had
Speaker 3: to leave and I walked off. I was sticky and
Speaker 3: ship from all the fucking pop that hit me and
Speaker 3: I had to sit around. I was only giving four
Speaker 3: hundred dollars, that was it, and I had to sit
Speaker 3: around the whole concert sticky like that until that motherfucker
Speaker 3: on paper and I had to sit there dog like
Speaker 3: and wait until that ship was over.
Speaker 1: You're gonna wait for it for a hundred nigga.
Speaker 3: They was taking the speakers down, nigga. And then that
Speaker 3: nigga came over and gave me four hundred dollars and.
Speaker 1: Five up crush and five somebody yo, I'm done with
Speaker 1: this comedy ship.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, was it than one?
Speaker 3: All some dope dealing nigga gave him five four hundred
Speaker 3: and five.
Speaker 1: You can tell he was like me for honey, some
Speaker 1: niggas throw my five bag, get me four honded.
Speaker 4: Do you remember the moment you felt like you had
Speaker 4: made it in this space because it is such an
Speaker 4: up and down ebb and flow space for comics with
Speaker 4: her time, you like, okay, I'm here.
Speaker 3: Man, it's levels to all this ship. So you know,
Speaker 3: when I made it on Deaf Comedy Jam the first time,
Speaker 3: it was like, oh my god, I'm here, like I
Speaker 3: did it, you know, But that was for that level,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so it's these levels
Speaker 3: that you do stuff. But now you just work, man,
Speaker 3: and you just work, and you know, you have these
Speaker 3: moments of that are great and you have moments that
Speaker 3: aren't great, you know, and you just.
Speaker 1: Do what you can with it.
Speaker 3: But I'll never sit back like I don't think I
Speaker 3: ever sat back like WHOA I made it.
Speaker 1: I would just be like, wow, this is a great monthdope,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You just said that earlier to cut you off. You
Speaker 2: just you've been in this business for a lot of years.
Speaker 1: You just said it. This year has been great. I've
Speaker 1: been doing you know what I mean. So this year
Speaker 1: has been great.
Speaker 3: It's been a great year, you know, with everything coming
Speaker 3: out and everything about to come out here, we got
Speaker 3: some more stuff coming out. Average Joe is coming out
Speaker 3: like in August and on Paramount, happy to have a
Speaker 3: neue home for that. Got another film coming out with him.
Speaker 1: Go through the first season though, tell them to go
Speaker 1: watch the first season.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you gotta go watch the first year and
Speaker 3: this on Netflix. It's called Average Joe. Go check it
Speaker 3: out and shout out to everybody that's been loving it.
Speaker 3: And shout out to everybody that's been asking me about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: everybody always asked me about that show. We went down
Speaker 3: to Africa and shot it down in the Cape Town
Speaker 3: from the Taking season. Yeah, and it's crazy, y'all been
Speaker 3: y'all been in Cape Town.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. There's so much ass, nigga. The animals got as nigga.
Speaker 7: The birds all fly low down because all that ass.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of ass just to keep the birds.
Speaker 7: This lord too much.
Speaker 3: Ass on these birds. It is amazing down there, Jack
Speaker 3: shout out to Kpe Town. Damn, I need to go
Speaker 3: back down there.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. But yeah, we shot down there. Ship.
Speaker 4: Explain your relationship with Conan. You had him in the
Speaker 4: hood at one point, you love for him, you worked
Speaker 4: with him. What was that experience like working with Conan Man?
Speaker 1: Conan is probably one of the smartest men I ever
Speaker 1: met my life. Like he is. He dumbs hisself down
Speaker 1: so much, but he's so brilliant. He's a brilliant dude.
Speaker 1: I wrote for him for nine years.
Speaker 3: Man over on a Tonight's show for like like a year,
Speaker 3: and then we went on and he had this on
Speaker 3: show on TBS, and I wrote I wrote the sketch
Speaker 3: portion and sometime I'm a lot, but the majority sketch
Speaker 3: with him. And man, I got my first Emmy nomination
Speaker 3: with him, uh SAG nomination, all that with him.
Speaker 9: This guy is.
Speaker 3: He just always taught me, like, because in our business
Speaker 3: as far as comics, you you you have to fail
Speaker 3: in order to succeed. I gotta go do minutes that
Speaker 3: I know only one minute work. I gotta fail in
Speaker 3: order to get that one minute and then put it
Speaker 3: to the side, and then go do it again with
Speaker 3: another ten minutes where only one minute work, and then
Speaker 3: I add that to my bag and I just keep doing.
Speaker 1: It or whatever.
Speaker 3: So he used to always teach me that you can't
Speaker 3: always have magical moments, or you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Have a magical homing interesting, you know.
Speaker 3: And so that taught me to go be fearless and
Speaker 3: make sure that and know that this job comes with
Speaker 3: no magical moments, you know what I mean, and to
Speaker 3: stay persistent and it's gonna pay off, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's what I did.
Speaker 3: And his way of writing and the way that he
Speaker 3: does has allowed me as a writer to be able
Speaker 3: to write other TV show and host award shows. You know,
Speaker 3: me hosting the NAACP Awards. That came from you know,
Speaker 3: me writing on the American Music Awards for Tracy Ellis Ross,
Speaker 3: me writing the Billboard Awards for Puffy, for Diddy, me
Speaker 3: writing the Soul Train Awards for Winny Wendy Wendy Williams.
Speaker 3: And you know it comes from my late night experience
Speaker 3: and then now me hosting award shows. You know, it
Speaker 3: all stems back to Conan and what I learned from
Speaker 3: him or whatever. And so yeah, man, that's that's my guy.
Speaker 3: Always will be my guy.
Speaker 4: You know, before we get to the quick hitters, tell
Speaker 4: us about the old Spice commercials of hell those came about?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 3: So I was doing a lot of like quirky like characters,
Speaker 3: you know, like a lot of my characters I do
Speaker 3: like on Blackish, you know, a Charlie.
Speaker 1: Quirky guy.
Speaker 3: I had a show called Angie Tribeca where Rashida Jones
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones daughter and we very quirky show. And then
Speaker 3: on Conan or play these characters. So o Spice knew
Speaker 3: that I would. I was doing these characters whatever, and
Speaker 3: they came to me about, you know, being being an
Speaker 3: ambassador for their for their brand and I was like absolutely.
Speaker 3: They flew me to Portuguese and we shot all these
Speaker 3: weird commercials me jumping out of the ocean with fish
Speaker 3: in my mouth and throwing rocks, knocking over trees and
Speaker 3: you know, you know, and then when I came back,
Speaker 3: this guy was like, hey, we got another campaign we
Speaker 3: wanted to try with you.
Speaker 1: And I was like okay.
Speaker 3: And there's like it's called Men Had Skin Too, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we could try it and I'm
Speaker 3: like okay, so we knocking over trees and ship.
Speaker 1: They was like no, no, you'll be in the penthouse chilli.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, you gotta uh got a wife and yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh all right, let's let's try it.
Speaker 3: And we dead it and hit hit like crazy and
Speaker 3: it just we've been going and rocking for years now,
Speaker 3: you know. So shout out to Old Spice day man.
Speaker 3: They are like super dope man. I remember the first
Speaker 3: they got on the Old Spot.
Speaker 1: They was like, yeah, we want to They was like,
Speaker 1: we don't want to do with muscles. I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess that's me.
Speaker 4: All right, quick hitters. First thing to come to mind.
Speaker 4: Let us know, give me your mount Rushmore of comedians.
Speaker 3: It's the same one. Everybody always probably have Fox, Eddie Richard, and.
Speaker 1: Uh maybe like Dick Gregory. I got.
Speaker 3: I also want to throw also if I can, an
Speaker 3: honorable convention, I do want to put Dave.
Speaker 1: That's in my top four. Yeah, we put Dave on.
Speaker 1: That most underrated comedian of all time.
Speaker 3: That's that's known or that's not known, that's not known,
Speaker 3: but it's a great comedian.
Speaker 1: Don't get his props.
Speaker 3: Ship my man, JJ from Mississippi. You're on the radio
Speaker 3: down there, JJ, he mother fucking mother stuff. I got
Speaker 3: to put a nigga between us if I'm on the
Speaker 3: show with him.
Speaker 1: So, what's what's his name? His name is JJ from
Speaker 1: the SIP. J shout out, JM. You got to put him,
Speaker 1: putting him on right now. You're putting him up right.
Speaker 3: There, J from the SIP. And I just worked with
Speaker 3: J not too long ago. We have to put a
Speaker 3: nigga between us.
Speaker 1: Best comedy venue you've worked at.
Speaker 3: Best comedy venue that I worked at? Man I did
Speaker 3: in Chicago. I did like seven thousand seeds out there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Man at this place called the wind Trust Arena. That
Speaker 3: was crazy and it was just me just coming through
Speaker 3: getting down, and the city showed up and came and
Speaker 3: rock with me and you know, celebrated and uh it
Speaker 3: was it was yeah, and it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great It's a great venue. Go go
Speaker 1: rock out, you know. But also like comedy clubs because they're.
Speaker 4: Intimate, smaller crowd. Question is not on there, but do
Speaker 4: you have any any new stand ups coming right now?
Speaker 3: I've been working out, man, I have a I have
Speaker 3: a residency. I like to call a residency at the Improv.
Speaker 3: That's another club that I like to work out a
Speaker 3: lot of improv in Hollywood. What nights, man, We'd be
Speaker 3: random nights and we be in a small room called
Speaker 3: the Lab.
Speaker 1: It's like only fifty people.
Speaker 3: We have a lot of great people that come through
Speaker 3: there because when they lock up our phones. But we
Speaker 3: know have Paul McCartney come check me out, Kanye Fire
Speaker 3: and Allen like everybody be sliding through that.
Speaker 5: Just text you one piece of advice you would tell
Speaker 5: a ten year old Dion cole on piece.
Speaker 1: Of advice I'll take at Odon call. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: all right, It's gonna be alright. Fact, God damn right,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all right. Bro, it's gonna be Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be real. We laughing.
Speaker 5: But if you could tell yourself that back in there,
Speaker 5: because you know, I like Opra say, when you get
Speaker 5: to a certain age, you realize a lot of shit
Speaker 5: that you stress about life.
Speaker 1: Never have never have, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So to thank if you could actually tell that that's
Speaker 5: a that's a good response.
Speaker 3: It's it's like, you know, you you worry about these things,
Speaker 3: and you know they a lot of people put a
Speaker 3: lot of ship on the past, but we ain't never
Speaker 3: been there. I ain't never been you've been to the past? Yeah,
Speaker 3: me neither. Where I put all your inferences on the past.
Speaker 1: Go watch back to the future, but we ain't been
Speaker 1: to the future.
Speaker 3: It's all about the now president, you know, it's all
Speaker 3: about the president whatever, you know, And so I just
Speaker 3: try to live in that and try to make that
Speaker 3: dictate how tomorrow goes.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just read something recently there it's like, don't
Speaker 3: let today fuck up tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Fact MJ.
Speaker 2: Kobe Bron ranked.
Speaker 1: MJ. Go ahead, next, I'm just playing. What was the question?
Speaker 1: M J.
Speaker 2: Kobe Bron Rank him in your order, m J. Kobe
Speaker 2: Bryant and who Lebron.
Speaker 3: MJ first, of course, MJ first, I want to say, man, shit,
Speaker 3: I want to say Kobe Bron.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's how That's how
Speaker 1: I want to go about it. Man.
Speaker 3: I it's just that time, man, those times, that era
Speaker 3: at that time and what was available, what wasn't, the rules,
Speaker 3: how they.
Speaker 1: Were and everything and how people played. It's a difference.
Speaker 1: It's a difference than that. It's a big difference.
Speaker 3: Now then they just changed the rule again. It's not
Speaker 3: flopping this. What's the other thing they call it tanking.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, teams can't intentionally lose file baby, yeah, fire baby. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now they haven't changed the one day.
Speaker 4: They did make a tanking role that you can't intentionally
Speaker 4: lose and the penalties and win all kinds of points system.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the game has definitely changed.
Speaker 5: They changed the roles where it's a new rule where
Speaker 5: if you land in somebody's face, they can either call
Speaker 5: it a fire, called it like a flagor file.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if you can.
Speaker 5: Chance to shot, you just land somebody landing space it
Speaker 5: could be a file off flagor file.
Speaker 1: So they could just dictate how the game go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they always have. They always have yo cans. She shut
Speaker 1: real quick for real dough. Yeah, the nigas to be
Speaker 1: cheating the reps this is my I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: to be cheating.
Speaker 5: But the fact that all of them are retired golfers
Speaker 5: and baseball players that didn't make it and never played basketball.
Speaker 5: They get a lot of calls wrong because they never
Speaker 5: played the game. So it ain't that they cheating, It's
Speaker 5: just they never played the game. So a lot of
Speaker 5: shit that they would never see from not playing a game.
Speaker 5: So like perfect example, we had Haywood Workman, what's his name.
Speaker 5: He was a referee, and players actually liked him because
Speaker 5: the calls he didn't call in the cause that he
Speaker 5: did call, Like we kind of understood him because he
Speaker 5: called him from being a player he actually played in
Speaker 5: the game, you know what I'm saying. So like they
Speaker 5: make a lot of mistakes because they never played basketball
Speaker 5: in their life. All they did was referee it. And
Speaker 5: you can referee it and you played it. A lot
Speaker 5: of those things that people think they cheating, it wouldn't happen.
Speaker 4: I think there's an agenda. I wouldn't say cheating cheating
Speaker 4: the heavy word, but I think there's definitely an agenda.
Speaker 4: And you remember you here to talk about with Allen
Speaker 4: Iverson one time where Alan Iverson called out somebody and
Speaker 4: then the refs are talking about the next game. We're
Speaker 4: gonna call every crossover trick, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 4: I think there's definitely an agenda. But I mean one
Speaker 4: refer it was called for cheating.
Speaker 3: So have you ever seen a ref retire and he
Speaker 3: just had like big ass mansion cars.
Speaker 5: We did see the rep that said he was cheating.
Speaker 5: He went back and looked at our playoff games. He
Speaker 5: was one of the referee.
Speaker 1: He was cheating.
Speaker 11: We don't want to talk about talk about that cheating.
Speaker 11: You had a couple of games, right. Let me ask
Speaker 11: you this, do players be cheating? Well, I mean some
Speaker 11: of them cheating and don't even know it they cheating,
Speaker 11: don't even know the cheating.
Speaker 1: Showing up.
Speaker 4: I think that big thing now is is scripted. It's
Speaker 4: supposed to be dis supposed to.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I mean's just there's too much money on the line
Speaker 4: now and pick the guys love the game so much. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously there has been a few people that
Speaker 4: have been point shaved and got in trouble for it.
Speaker 1: But I don't think so you think these kids is
Speaker 1: earning the money that they getting, that's a different story.
Speaker 1: It's just some of them, some of them, some of them.
Speaker 2: But the game has grown so big.
Speaker 4: So it's when the game grows and it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's on five different streamers now, the world game to
Speaker 4: world game like money comes with that. So I mean
Speaker 4: these kids are just getting, you know, reaping the benefits
Speaker 4: of the people that came before them. As we talked
Speaker 4: about earlier, they kind of put them in a position.
Speaker 4: But this has always been David Stern's vision to make
Speaker 4: it a global game, and I think the game is
Speaker 4: global now when the globalization of the game has brought
Speaker 4: more TV money to the game. And that's why these
Speaker 4: guys are making sixty seventy pretty soon in the next
Speaker 4: three to five years, one hundred million a year from
Speaker 4: playing basketball.
Speaker 5: What you say is more people. They look like they
Speaker 5: love what the game can do for him. They love
Speaker 5: the game like the journeys we had to take to
Speaker 5: get here, Like you really had to grind, they had
Speaker 5: to meet everything.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go make it?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, now, shit, you can have
Speaker 5: one good game and put it on social media, go viral.
Speaker 1: Now you're a star. You can play.
Speaker 5: But then you get around some real players. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of kids four or five years ago that was
Speaker 5: all on Instagram. Though he's the next player he did.
Speaker 5: A lot of these guys came get in college, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. A lot of them reclass and
Speaker 5: trying to beat You know what I'm saying, because when
Speaker 5: they found out they really wouldn't it good because social
Speaker 5: media made them good. So it's easier to make it now.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It's easier to make it now.
Speaker 3: Okay, last question, then y'all we can go on. Uh
Speaker 3: when y'all first started, I'm talking about when you was
Speaker 3: first in the league. Okay, when you first in the league,
Speaker 3: how many per game hose did you have?
Speaker 1: In the stand? Said? Hose per game? I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie if I didn't. I was sending ball boys to
Speaker 1: go get numbers.
Speaker 5: If I see something warming up and we make eye contract,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't a man, So will we do a whole
Speaker 1: segment on that? Yeah, we did a whole segment. We
Speaker 1: didn't have it come out ball ball people. We never
Speaker 1: put it out though every arena that was that was
Speaker 1: the point. You would get the ball. Well, even if
Speaker 1: you're at a way arena.
Speaker 4: You you know, we're paying a little bit of bread,
Speaker 4: and he would you go see her in the third
Speaker 4: row or go get a number, Go get a.
Speaker 1: Number if it's a link.
Speaker 5: He going at halftime yet, bro Bright, then the game.
Speaker 5: I need some high wings and a bottle of Hennessy
Speaker 5: because you did I.
Speaker 1: Made something at the game. It's going down.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that the game liquor store closed,
Speaker 5: telling me the get all that post games? Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: ball boy Pampa that you gotta find that I had
Speaker 5: stayed at the game.
Speaker 1: I had to be to stay at the game. Stayed
Speaker 1: at the games. Should check her phone. I got some
Speaker 1: I always thought that. I was like, I know, I
Speaker 1: know they have I was single way whatever hell you
Speaker 1: came like contacted.
Speaker 2: Money to to Playing in l A is different. Playing
Speaker 2: with the Lakers is different.
Speaker 1: Damn. I bet that was sometimes you know in Miami.
Speaker 5: First off years and oh yeah, seeing all that, I'm like,
Speaker 5: my lord, this what just what Miami.
Speaker 4: Lights sometimes players will have the same girls at the game.
Speaker 4: You murder, Yeah, I thought she took my tickets. No,
Speaker 4: she took my ticket.
Speaker 1: She took the ur tickets. I'm gonna send her that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it off to you. What we're done.
Speaker 5: Would all would be like, bro, leave such and such tickets.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave the homegrown tickets come yeah. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got a Miami story boy.
Speaker 5: For eight hours, we probably didn't sleep, won two games
Speaker 5: back to back.
Speaker 1: In the second game.
Speaker 5: By thirty day, the two cities stayed out all night day,
Speaker 5: showed the practice with the same clothes.
Speaker 1: On from the game the night before. They bring it in.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, let me get back on the bus,
Speaker 5: and we met with thirty came out one bout thirty.
Speaker 2: Damn we had.
Speaker 1: We were just all on the same page. Good old that.
Speaker 1: What's up? Boy? I like ship like that.
Speaker 12: Childhood crush Man one of his vintage pieces. It's name Reda.
Speaker 1: Gert.
Speaker 3: You Gert you deserte winks. That was her name, deser
Speaker 3: motherfucking winks. Oh, brown skin, curly head mother.
Speaker 1: She was so bad. It was so fine. Uh. I
Speaker 1: used to in the city. She used to live right
Speaker 1: around the corner from my house. She was cold. She
Speaker 1: was so cute bad. I used to go over there
Speaker 1: and color with her.
Speaker 3: I had a box of I had a box of
Speaker 3: colored chalk. I ain't had coloring like color like I
Speaker 3: had chalked that was like that. And we would be
Speaker 3: on the ground on the concrete.
Speaker 1: Dog just work, holding hands, putting in work, putting it
Speaker 1: in work.
Speaker 3: Dogs just trying to draw something beautiful, trying to draw
Speaker 3: something differ before, just trying to draw some of.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I came over there one day with some of my
Speaker 3: fucking daffer deals. I mean dandelions, the ones you blow
Speaker 3: on this ship. But I walked real slow. We could
Speaker 3: blow them together. So I was holding them like this.
Speaker 3: I get over there.
Speaker 1: That bitch is coloring with another nigga, with my shop,
Speaker 1: with my show, with my shop, with my shop. I
Speaker 1: was serious, dog, I'm sick with my chalk. Dog. I
Speaker 1: was like, I went home so mad the bench. I
Speaker 1: was serious, little nigga, for like we.
Speaker 3: Only weigh sixty pounds, nigga, I was down to like
Speaker 3: fifty forty five or some ship sick.
Speaker 1: I thought, oh my face hurts ship with my dog
Speaker 1: and my shock. She was coloring dog. I was like
Speaker 1: this yesterday. She was sitting there. She just looked up
Speaker 1: just that's all she did, just staring at me. And
Speaker 1: I just ran. I just kept on that be kept
Speaker 1: on holding that nigga hand and drawing dog.
Speaker 5: It ran.
Speaker 1: Nigga ran that been sitting there and this nigga, this
Speaker 1: nigga beautiful ship for ship rac nigga. This nigga is
Speaker 1: an artist. Nigga niggas like doing allthing abstract. Probably how
Speaker 1: I got you like this?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: This tell you so My was like, get that out
Speaker 1: of here. He's a real water on the That's what
Speaker 1: I should. I should have got the water. Don't you
Speaker 1: ever use my God, damn, I should. I should have
Speaker 1: went that ship up, ship ship, that real ship.
Speaker 5: If you can see one guest on our show, who
Speaker 5: would it be? But you have to help us get
Speaker 5: your answer on the show?
Speaker 3: Oh ship, if it was one guest that I would
Speaker 3: love to see on your show, and I will help
Speaker 3: you get the guests on the ship?
Speaker 1: Was a good chancewer Darnell rollins, Yes, sir, that's a
Speaker 1: good one. Yes, sir. Put that call that I make
Speaker 1: that happen, make happy. That is all shame crazy. Donelle
Speaker 1: is the shade this shot. I'm not on your team.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be.
Speaker 4: Yea man, We appreciate your time, best of luck, congratulations
Speaker 4: on everything that's going on, and luck with everything coming
Speaker 4: and then come back.
Speaker 1: And kick with us when you guys want to shake
Speaker 1: out for having me, man, this is live. Man.
Speaker 3: Keep doing y'all doing, man, We are proud of y'all.
Speaker 3: Y'all exceling noting the sailing off ship man, and keep
Speaker 3: doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Man. Thank y'all for being you. Thank appreciate you. That's
Speaker 1: a wrap.
Speaker 4: You can find us on all the Smoke YouTube and
Speaker 4: the DraftKings Network. We'll see y'all next week.
Speaker 1: That's good plea