WEBVTT - Jenna Von Oy Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>I have had a cold now for eight days.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't keep it nine days. Whatever it is, it

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<v Speaker 2>will not go away.

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<v Speaker 3>And I keep hearing all.

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<v Speaker 4>These random people giving me advice on how to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of it. And the one I heard yesterday was

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<v Speaker 4>just doing shots of bourbon with lemon in it, which

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<v Speaker 4>sounds great, and I feel like I'm just going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>With you drunk and then you don't mind having a cold.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering if you guys can give me any advice

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<v Speaker 4>about the random, most random ways you've heard to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of the common cold, which is just not going away.

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<v Speaker 5>I shan't okay, Well, first of all, do you use

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<v Speaker 5>a netty pot?

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<v Speaker 4>What a nutty pot? I do not use a net

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm put things up my nose.

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<v Speaker 5>And then okay, Well, I would like to say that

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<v Speaker 5>a Nettie pot one is great even if you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have a cold. It helps prevent you possibly from getting sick,

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<v Speaker 5>because nasal visage is getting all, you know, helping keep

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<v Speaker 5>it clear from germs, and when you are sick, it

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<v Speaker 5>will help push things through faster. I really cannot say

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<v Speaker 5>enough wonderful things about a Nettie pot and I would

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<v Speaker 5>highly recomon do it in the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we just enter an Nettie Pot commercial? And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize it? It's like it also leads me to

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<v Speaker 1>believe do we have the copy.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what the pot Neteethpot.

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<v Speaker 5>You can get it at your local CBS, Walgreens, Nettie

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<v Speaker 5>Meets World.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually never used the pot, but I know people

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<v Speaker 1>like around me you swore it, but it's I also

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<v Speaker 1>heard it's kind of addictive, though, like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things like once you clear your nasal passages.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't recommend using it every day. I don't recommend

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<v Speaker 5>using it every day if you're not sick. If you're sick,

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<v Speaker 5>I recommend using it every day if you're not sick,

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<v Speaker 5>a couple times a week, maybe just once a week,

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<v Speaker 5>or maybe you just pick and choose, like before you

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<v Speaker 5>go on a plane, after you come off a plane,

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<v Speaker 5>like places where maybe you're going to be in extra

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<v Speaker 5>jermy environments. I use it in the shower so that

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have to worry about, you know, it dripping

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<v Speaker 5>down my face or feeling like I'm drowning. I can

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<v Speaker 5>just figure out the best most comfortable position to be

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<v Speaker 5>in to use it.

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<v Speaker 6>I really highly recommend that.

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<v Speaker 5>And there is a little bit of truth will to

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<v Speaker 5>the idea of the bourbon that's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 5>hot toddy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's honey lemon, a little bit of your favorite

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<v Speaker 6>type of alcohol.

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<v Speaker 5>And a cinnamon stick. And it will help one help

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<v Speaker 5>you sleep. It will sue the sore throat, it will

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<v Speaker 5>it will just give you a little bit of extra rest.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no symptoms other than my head.

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<v Speaker 6>Is clogged for I can hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just I cannot kick this thing. It is killing me

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<v Speaker 2>at this point.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so sorry. I also really love Faara Flu.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't want to do the alcohol version a

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<v Speaker 5>night time I'm fair flu. They make a daytime theiflu.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm also a really big fan of Floonse.

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<v Speaker 2>It really.

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<v Speaker 3>Works on me.

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<v Speaker 4>The the afron is the stuff that's scary, not touch

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<v Speaker 4>and it works so well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then next thing you know.

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<v Speaker 6>That that is addicted.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't recommend. Yeah, I don't reckon. My dad had

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<v Speaker 5>an afron addiction. Couldn't breathe image at one point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it happens fast too, but it's such a good.

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<v Speaker 5>Product, and then you can't breathe without it. So flose

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't do that. It's non addictive. So you know, Will I,

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<v Speaker 5>I really I think if you started a regiment of

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<v Speaker 5>Nettie pot Flownase a hot body and or a faraflu,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're gonna feel better in a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to stick to the bourbon. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way. I'm It seems the easiest way, just

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<v Speaker 2>to start taking.

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<v Speaker 6>Bourbon the least natural.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell you, though, I'll meet you in the middle and

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<v Speaker 4>I will drink bourbon in the shower.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect sold, wonderful.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right or strong Will Fidel.

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<v Speaker 5>At this point in the podcast, we all know about

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<v Speaker 5>Andy and Danny, the unstoppable nineties duo that took photos

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<v Speaker 5>throughout all of Los Angeles and held up childhood blankies

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<v Speaker 5>that looked like genitals in front of handmade.

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<v Speaker 6>Cars like it was nobody's business.

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<v Speaker 5>But what you don't know is that we had a

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<v Speaker 5>third amigo, someone who was in just as many photos

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<v Speaker 5>and also held just as special of a place in

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<v Speaker 5>my heart and also Will's hart.

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<v Speaker 6>But we'll get to that later.

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<v Speaker 5>Our guest this week is best known as the iconic

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<v Speaker 5>the Dorothy six lemuur On Blossom, the eccentric best Friend,

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<v Speaker 5>nicknamed because it took that amount of beers for her conception.

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<v Speaker 5>She'd also be seen in The Night Story Really it

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<v Speaker 5>was Yes, Wow, isn't that funny? I didn't know that either.

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<v Speaker 5>That's great.

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<v Speaker 6>She'd also be.

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<v Speaker 5>Seen in the nineteen ninety nine sitcom The Parkers and

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<v Speaker 5>heard as Stacy in the classic A Goofy movie. But

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<v Speaker 5>we'll always remember seeing her in real life in that

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<v Speaker 5>red convertible Toyota Selica, where she was the coolest woman

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<v Speaker 5>any of us knew, and there was no way you

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<v Speaker 5>could convince us any different. This week, we are thrilled

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<v Speaker 5>to welcome not only a nineties sitcom legend to pod

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<v Speaker 5>Meets World, but someone from the inner circle of myself,

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<v Speaker 5>Will and writer.

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<v Speaker 6>It's Jenna VANOI.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought I was white, white, Selica.

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<v Speaker 6>Hers was red.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's ask her if hers is white.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna be I'm gonna be.

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<v Speaker 7>Walking abound.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me was your convertible convertible Selica white or red?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just curious. At first, I have to ask who

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<v Speaker 7>said what I said red?

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<v Speaker 1>I said white? I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm gonna go with the guy I dated.

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<v Speaker 2>Was correct, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>My Selica was read. Hers was white. That's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the reasons we bonded at dinner that night.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, believable. I'm really.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm going to see you. I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, my whole life, I've wanted a red

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<v Speaker 5>Toyota Selica convertible, and I've attributed it to you my

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<v Speaker 5>entire life. I've said it in panels, I've said it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you were inspired by her, but then it became

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<v Speaker 1>red in your magic. So your version was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be right, that's how you're gonna be. You were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like your version.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Yeah, it was like you know the dream that

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<v Speaker 7>took off room.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you were the inspiration and I just wanted the

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<v Speaker 5>cherry red. Wow, it's pretty pretty amazing. So to jump

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<v Speaker 5>into all of this, do you know how many photos

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<v Speaker 5>we took together and related to that? Do you have

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<v Speaker 5>room in your house for a few boxes full of them?

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<v Speaker 7>No, because my mother has already sent me all of

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<v Speaker 7>the ones that she's stockpiled in her attic, and there

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<v Speaker 7>was far more of a packrat than I ever gave

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<v Speaker 7>he credit for. So no, there's no room, no room.

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<v Speaker 7>I will say this. So I have a nine and

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<v Speaker 7>an eleven year old, right, and I was I'm threatening

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<v Speaker 7>this summer to make them sit down, and I actually

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<v Speaker 7>kind of think this is a brilliant idea. I'm very

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<v Speaker 7>excited about it. I'm threatening to make them sit down

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<v Speaker 7>and go through all of like the old Team Beat

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<v Speaker 7>magazines and tear out the pages, and like, I think

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<v Speaker 7>this is a really good summer project. Guys, I'm really.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to make them Yeah, you're gonna consolidate.

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<v Speaker 7>I like that, Yes, because my mother gave me all

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<v Speaker 7>these boxes of magazines and I was like.

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<v Speaker 6>What am I gonna do with all this? I have

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<v Speaker 6>all of mine too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's great. Just to take your pictures out, you

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<v Speaker 4>can call it between Beat.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>My god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'll show myself out. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm officially done for the day.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me just say that some things never change, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys have any memory of meeting Jenna or Jenna?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember meeting us? Because for me, you just

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<v Speaker 1>appeared fully formed as the most experienced, coolest, nicest like

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<v Speaker 1>when we showed up on boy Metsorre that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>who can we trust that knows what's happening in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole crazy experience And it was like Jenna and you

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<v Speaker 1>were just like.

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<v Speaker 7>The rock for all of us and what worked the

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<v Speaker 7>world was I totally balanced and good.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, you were the folest person ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you will list you were sixteen or seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>You had been on a hit sitcom that was like

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of us, like two or three seasons in so

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<v Speaker 1>when we started, I just know that we all looked

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<v Speaker 1>to you. It was like, how can we be more

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<v Speaker 1>like Jenna? And like you were just always around. You

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<v Speaker 1>were so kind, You were so nice for the parents.

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<v Speaker 1>You like had your own apartment maybe already or just

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<v Speaker 1>your own car. So you were just like everything we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be. And was like how do we who

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<v Speaker 1>do we trust? Right? I mean, don't you guys remember

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<v Speaker 1>feeling this way? And I don't remember meeting you. I

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<v Speaker 1>just you were just like this fairy that entered our

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<v Speaker 1>life and like I knew I needed you in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember everything about meeting Jenna, all.

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<v Speaker 7>The confidence that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I remember meeting Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember where we were. I remember the first night we.

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<v Speaker 6>Met, of course, because tell us the story?

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<v Speaker 1>Well we do you want to tell it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or should I tell it?

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<v Speaker 1>You're the guest, you should tell it?

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<v Speaker 7>I kind of would like to defer to you for

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<v Speaker 7>a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, So Jenna was writing an article for was it

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<v Speaker 4>a teen magazine?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? I think it was teen be?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it teen Beat?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>And so was it Scott Appel?

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody put us together through a publicist, put us together

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<v Speaker 4>so you could interview me.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like there was probably underlying matchmaking things happening

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<v Speaker 7>that No, probably, but that's besides.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And so we went to an Italian restaurant in Burbank

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<v Speaker 4>and we both ordered salads because both of us were

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<v Speaker 4>too embarrassed to eat in front of each other, and

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<v Speaker 4>neither of us I think took a bite the entire

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<v Speaker 4>night we sat there.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, likely because we were talking too much, but maybe

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<v Speaker 7>also because we were nervous about eating in front of

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<v Speaker 7>each other, yet.

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<v Speaker 4>In front of each other, and we were. We instantly

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<v Speaker 4>found out we had all these things in common.

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<v Speaker 2>We were from Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 4>We both drove Toyota Celica's and we kept she was

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<v Speaker 4>recording it, and she kept stopping the tape and then

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<v Speaker 4>going back and being like, oh my god, we just

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<v Speaker 4>found out another thing that we had in common.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just one thing after another, and we just kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of started dating after that.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just kind of together after that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, how long did you guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Date?

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<v Speaker 3>For?

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<v Speaker 2>Four months? Six months?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Right, I mean at sixteen. I feel like it was

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<v Speaker 7>a pretty link.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>She broke up with me in a parking lot in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's like a story for another time.

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<v Speaker 6>That story.

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<v Speaker 5>Forget the story, tell that story, Jenna Gough.

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<v Speaker 7>Fine, it's fine. I'm not scarred from it or anything

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<v Speaker 7>I did ironically, So here know, there actually was a

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<v Speaker 7>very precious thing, which was that it was the first

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<v Speaker 7>Valentine's Day. This fun, fun little secrets that I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think anybody knows first Valentine's Day that either of us

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<v Speaker 7>had ever had a significant other. Yeah, which, ye, a

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<v Speaker 7>significant other you can have at sixteen. And and he

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<v Speaker 7>gave he was he was so sweet and gave me

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<v Speaker 7>his favorite Whaler's sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 6>Not the jersey, the sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 7>Big you guys. That was like, so yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 7>can't believe we're like in this in minute what four address?

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<v Speaker 7>This is like record? So yeah, what Siri is talking

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<v Speaker 7>to me now, She's like, here's what I found. God

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<v Speaker 7>knows what She's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got sweatshirt wh.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so Whaler's sweatshirt, which I actually located I think

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<v Speaker 7>about two years ago and was like, holy crap, SI

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<v Speaker 7>left this and I took a picture of it because

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to try and send it to you,

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't I don't know if I like found

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<v Speaker 7>you online and send it to you or not, Like

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to try and find you on social

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<v Speaker 7>media and like send it, but I think, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have any social media.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you take a picture of it before you donated

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<v Speaker 5>it or do you still have it? You know?

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<v Speaker 7>I actually don't know the answer to that because I

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<v Speaker 7>was getting out of a storage unit and I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>going to say I had this what shirt and a

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<v Speaker 7>storage unit? But you did break up with me in

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<v Speaker 7>a parking lot, so storage unit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do feel like we at least you

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<v Speaker 1>kept it at all.

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<v Speaker 6>I do know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, we know how you met, so now I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's only appropriate we know how it ended.

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<v Speaker 7>But correct, correct, correct, but no hard feelings. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, forty years.

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<v Speaker 4>Later we saw each other. After that, it wasn't what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Jenna was around for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>At least, you were just the You were the most experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>like actor.

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<v Speaker 7>So bad experienced actor okay, yeah, just like make sure

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<v Speaker 7>we add actor to like the very yeah's.

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<v Speaker 6>You were a fast girl.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, you were just the one who knew

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<v Speaker 1>the ropes of like being on a sitcom and how

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<v Speaker 1>to manage like the teen magazines and like where to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, like, did you go to ed

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<v Speaker 1>de Bevik's with us? I feel like that seems sounds

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<v Speaker 1>about right.

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<v Speaker 7>Like that's highly likely. Y.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like that you were just in and

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<v Speaker 1>that you were in the scene in a way that like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't we just looked up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember looking up to you and you were

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<v Speaker 1>so cool and fun and we just liked each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just remember like thinking, yeah, it's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>to look back and be like, yeah, you were actually

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<v Speaker 1>probably only sixteen and probably had no clue what you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing either.

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<v Speaker 7>But do you feel like that how people who are

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<v Speaker 7>only a couple of years older than you seem so

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<v Speaker 7>much older at the time. Yeah, I'm like in my

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<v Speaker 7>brain and of course I still feel this, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>you're twenty seven, We're the same age. It's totally fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>Like you know, at that time, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 7>looked at you as being my peer and being the

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<v Speaker 7>same age as me. Meanwhile, I was obviously a couple

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<v Speaker 7>of years older than you, and that pines in age

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<v Speaker 7>was just that gap was so huge. What I think,

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<v Speaker 7>what I remember most for you, writer is the cruise

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<v Speaker 7>that we all yes, which was so and so insane

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<v Speaker 7>looking back.

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<v Speaker 4>But for you, hell it was it was Yeah, ocean

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<v Speaker 4>hell is what we've called that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well, okay, oh wait, but you were there old

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<v Speaker 1>on we you were in the first year, right, or

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<v Speaker 1>were you there when Danielle went? I think you were

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<v Speaker 1>there the first year.

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<v Speaker 6>She was there with me.

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<v Speaker 1>She was oh did you do both years?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I didn't know there were two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I went two years.

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<v Speaker 6>I went two years.

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<v Speaker 7>Too, Wow, you went two years. Yeah, there might have

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<v Speaker 7>been reasons why they didn't invite me back. It's I

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<v Speaker 7>think you.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you did do the second year because good,

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<v Speaker 5>that's so you weren't invited the first year, but you

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<v Speaker 5>got a invited to the second year.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, fair well, that sounds better.

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<v Speaker 5>So will mentioned already you're from Connecticut. How did you

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<v Speaker 5>decide to become an actor? And what did your parents

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<v Speaker 5>think of you wanting to do this?

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<v Speaker 7>Other than that I was nuts. You know, acting is

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<v Speaker 7>not It's not in my family at all. My mom

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<v Speaker 7>is from a small town Wisconsin. My dad is from Fairfield, Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 7>very you know, fairly small town. And when I was

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<v Speaker 7>about three years old, there was a Jordash Jean's commercial

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<v Speaker 7>and all these girls were doing ballet and I loved

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<v Speaker 7>to dance, and I took dance classes at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>essentially because my parents didn't know what to do with

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<v Speaker 7>me because I had so much energy, which now as

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<v Speaker 7>a mom to a firecracker of a nine year old,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, oh, goat feeling my poor parents. But so

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<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, I saw this commercial and I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, oh, all these girls are dancing, and I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what goes through one's mind prior to understanding

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<v Speaker 7>that there are actually people on display on the television,

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<v Speaker 7>that it's not robots, that it's not I don't I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what you think prior to that, but

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<v Speaker 7>for me, that was my first indication that there were

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<v Speaker 7>actually humans that were doing these roles and they were dancing,

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<v Speaker 7>and these were kids like me, and it made sense

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<v Speaker 7>to me, and I was like, oh, well, that's what

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<v Speaker 7>I want to do. So I started telling my parents

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<v Speaker 7>and they were like, oh, that's so cute. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>you're gonna fight fires one day, dance and dad where

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<v Speaker 7>Georde Ash Jean's the next. And I was like, hmmm, no,

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<v Speaker 7>it's that We're done. Here we go and scene. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>they started, they didn't know what to do. They ignored

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<v Speaker 7>it for a while. And then this woman my dad

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<v Speaker 7>was a longtime server at a really beautiful water fall

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<v Speaker 7>front restaurant in Connecticut that served he served, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>people like Paul Newman and were the stewart for many

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<v Speaker 7>many years and it was just like this classic traditional

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<v Speaker 7>restaurant and the bartender there. Ironically, or maybe not so ironically,

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<v Speaker 7>when my dad told her that I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 7>an actress, said to him, Oh, that's funny. I just

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<v Speaker 7>started taking my son to New York for auditions. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a manager. Now I've become a manager. My dad

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<v Speaker 7>was like, I don't really know what that means, but cool,

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<v Speaker 7>and she said, well, I'd love to meet her. And

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<v Speaker 7>I went to her house and she was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to do this. And so she started taking

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<v Speaker 7>me to New York for auditions and still plenty of

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<v Speaker 7>money along the way. My dye, oh no, because it

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<v Speaker 7>was one of those situations where, you know, my parents

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<v Speaker 7>were so green and yeah, I know them. They're both

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<v Speaker 7>from small towns and they they had no idea and

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<v Speaker 7>which really, in the long run, as much as it

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<v Speaker 7>sucks to say this, like it's kind of a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 7>My parents didn't know any better and that they were

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<v Speaker 7>amateurs in the whole thing. You know, we learned together,

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<v Speaker 7>we grew together in the business to understand it better

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<v Speaker 7>and and well not be taking taken advantage of quite

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<v Speaker 7>so much. But but yeah, So this woman took me

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<v Speaker 7>to New York on the train for auditions for years,

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<v Speaker 7>and then at some point when we realized sort of

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<v Speaker 7>more of what was going on, my parents started taking

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<v Speaker 7>me in instead.

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<v Speaker 6>So what was the first job you booked?

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<v Speaker 7>It was a It was a Jello Pudding Pops commercial

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<v Speaker 7>with Bill Cosby.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I was an extra. One of the girls licked

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<v Speaker 7>a jello pudding pop after she was told not to

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<v Speaker 7>lick it and got her tongue stuck a Lah Christmas

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<v Speaker 7>in the Christmas Story. Yeah, and it was, but it

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<v Speaker 7>was quite. It was quite the memorable day.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell us more, I.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, other than her getting her tongues, Like, that's

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<v Speaker 7>really the bulk of my memories. Henrible because of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So how old were you when you did the commercial?

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<v Speaker 7>Six years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Six? Okay, so yeah you were you were in the

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<v Speaker 2>young group. Yeah, you're in the young group for us.

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<v Speaker 7>So me, Joey, Melissa Hart, Sarah Geller, Natasha Leone, these

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<v Speaker 7>are Alison Porter, like, these are all people that I

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<v Speaker 7>was in New York with and yeah, grew up with and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, so you knew Joey before Blossom.

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<v Speaker 7>So I didn't know Joey, but we were both auditioning

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<v Speaker 7>in New York at the same time. I mostly knew

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<v Speaker 7>the girls because we would end up at the same auditions. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When did you then get or hear about Blossom for

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<v Speaker 4>your first time?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Were you auditioned in New York and they flew you

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<v Speaker 4>out to l A or were you already in Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I auditioned a new Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys were the cool New York kids. We were,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll both yeah, it was another thing we had

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<v Speaker 1>in common.

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<v Speaker 3>We had, we had a lot in common when we met.

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<v Speaker 4>It.

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<v Speaker 1>Always there's always this. The network test came down to

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<v Speaker 1>two people from LA and one New Yorker always and

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<v Speaker 1>then New Yorker always got it.

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<v Speaker 7>It sucked for us, but not true because I went

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<v Speaker 7>to network for Roseanne with Sarah Gilbert and she got it.

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<v Speaker 4>We always saw the l A people as the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that were actually getting.

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<v Speaker 1>The But when they flew you out from New York

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<v Speaker 1>and they put you up in a hotel, you felt

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<v Speaker 1>so much cooler. You can give you that extra bit

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence, like they're flying me out, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean that's probably fair. Yeah, Like I'm not taking the

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<v Speaker 7>train to the audition today, I'm flying it. Like that's

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<v Speaker 7>pretty high tech.

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<v Speaker 4>And staying at the Universal Sheridan is always there's always

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Always that Howard Johnson's, which may not Howard Johnson's anymore

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<v Speaker 7>on like Vineland or Joe's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my I with my manager all the time, with

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce and I at that Howard Johnson's. Yes, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the taste of the instant coffee that you would

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<v Speaker 1>get in your room.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for me, it was there. It was like an

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<v Speaker 7>attached restaurant at the time, you know, going back a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit far, and they had these like fried clams

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<v Speaker 7>and clam chowder. And of course it was not like

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<v Speaker 7>an East Coast clam chowder at no, I mean not

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<v Speaker 7>even close. But it was like the only thing even

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<v Speaker 7>close to home that I could find, and I was

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<v Speaker 7>latching onto it like yes.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I can't let one thing pass rider. How

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<v Speaker 4>old were you when you were drinking the instant coffee

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<v Speaker 4>in the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Room, Probably starting at eleven. I was like super sweet.

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<v Speaker 4>It would like it would be like it was like

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, you're now tell as a kid you're

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<v Speaker 4>drinking the coffee.

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<v Speaker 6>I started drinking coffee at twelve.

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<v Speaker 7>I started drinking coffee at six years old on my

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<v Speaker 7>way to New York for three am, because we would

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.200
<v Speaker 7>have to we would leave from Fairfield train station. There

0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:00.399
<v Speaker 7>was a Dunkin Donuts at the train station, and I

0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 7>would have to be in by six am or whatever,

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.439
<v Speaker 7>so we'd have to leave my house at six or

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:09.719
<v Speaker 7>at three rather to get there by six, and so

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:15.919
<v Speaker 7>my dad would get me half coffee, half cream. I

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 7>tributed all of my Napoleon Napoleonic stature. I have my

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 7>coffee obsession, my father getting me dunkin donuts.

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<v Speaker 6>And now I say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm horizontally challenged because of the coffee at twelve.

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<v Speaker 7>As fun sized, blind sized size.

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<v Speaker 4>At eleven years old, the coffee would have ruined the

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<v Speaker 4>taste of my cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so will you tell us a little bit about

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<v Speaker 5>what we'll ask the blah how did Blossom come around?

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<v Speaker 7>So I auditioned in New York the same day that

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 7>I auditioned for Blossom. And this is like the most

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 7>probably one of the weirdest stories for me, because I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not really a believer of ghosts or things of that

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 7>supernatural things of that nature, just not very much. A

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 7>I like logic. I really love logic. I really embrace logic,

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 7>and so things like that kind of tend to elude me. However,

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 7>on this particular day, I was auditioning for three different things.

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 7>One was a show called Lenny, one was a show

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 7>called Blossom, and one was some sort of miniseries or

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 7>commercial or something. And I got on the train with

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 7>my mom and we sat in the back and this

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 7>man was sitting in the row in front of us,

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 7>and he turned around and he started talking to me,

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 7>because in those days, a grown up can talk to

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 7>a child and it's not terrifying now. And this man

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<v Speaker 7>was like, you know, what are you going to New

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 7>York for? And I said, Oh, I'm an actress. I'm

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 7>going to some auditions. And he goes tell me about them.

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<v Speaker 7>And normally I would not have done that, right, I

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 7>would have felt very uncomfortable and not done this. For

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 7>some reason, I felt very comfortable, and I said, I'm

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 7>going on an audition for this show, this show or

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 7>this mini series, this show and this commercial or whatever.

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 7>He was like, Blossom that one. You're gonna get that?

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:12.120
<v Speaker 7>Get ready?

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Wow geez?

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like okay, thanks.

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 7>At the next stop, we looked and he was gone,

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 7>like he had gotten up and left. We hadn't noticed

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 7>he had totally disappeared. And I was like, Mommy, what

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 7>would happen if, like I did get this show and

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 7>it filmed in California? And she goes, oh, we'll cross

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 7>that bridge when we get to it, and I was like,

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 7>I think we're at it. He just said I'm getting it,

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 7>and lo and behold I go. And I auditioned for

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 7>the show, and then I also auditioned for the show

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 7>called Lenny. So Lenny and Blossom were both created by

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 7>Don Rio, amazing, just phenomenal writer. Both were with Thomas shows.

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 7>One was NBC, one was CBS. And when I was

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 7>flown to California to test for Blossom, I was also

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.120
<v Speaker 7>flown to California to test for Lenny.

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<v Speaker 1>They were vying for you. Yeah, and that's always the

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 1>best way to be in hollywod.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's I mean, yeah, I'm not not complaining at all

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 7>and uh and so, but Blossom was first, and before

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 7>we went to network, they brought Miam and I together

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 7>at the Sunset Gower lot and we went up to

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:29.479
<v Speaker 7>this room and I'll never forget this, Like I can

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 7>remember what she was wearing. I remember what I was wearing.

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 7>Of course they told me to bring I had worn

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.719
<v Speaker 7>this like crazy wide brimmed purple hat to the audition

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 7>and when I got the callback, they were like, tell

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 7>her to wear the hat, and so network work, they

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 7>were like, tell her to wear the hat again. So

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 7>it became part of my character. You were the character, right,

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 7>and being a New Yorker or being you know, being

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 7>from the East Coast, just being an East Coast girl.

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 7>Like I talked, I talked quickly. It's you know, south

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 7>now for seventeen years, so probably sounds I'm like very

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 7>bipolar in my in my chair or in my language.

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.920
<v Speaker 7>But but back then I was very much sounded East

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 7>Coast and uh and I think that the fast talking yeah,

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.120
<v Speaker 7>derived from that. And uh so, yeah, So they brought

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.239
<v Speaker 7>me up and I talked to Maam and we did

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 7>the scene together, and then we went into Network together.

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 7>She had already gotten the role. They brought me in

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 7>with her because they knew that they wanted me and

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 7>and they wanted to make sure that that was what happened.

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 7>Joey was also there, so you know, they had us

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 7>and they told us talk about crazy because this would

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 7>not happen now. We walked out of the room. They

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 7>told us to hang on for a second. They told

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 7>us we got it outside of the room. She was

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 7>at Network when it happened.

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>My hold on a second. But Mie was the show, right,

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 1>she was already cast, like the show was being built

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 1>her out but you and Joey both got the art

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at the same time in the chemistry test. Amazing.

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I saw the show.

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>They were like, here's the show.

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, mine had done Beaches already, right, I mean, that's

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 4>where she's.

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 7>Why they created And then she had also done a

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 7>show called Malloy, a very short lived show called Malloy

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 7>after Beaches with Jennifer Aniston. And so they knew that

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 7>she could. I feel like they knew that she could

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 7>carry a sitcom. Dawn for she could carry a sitcom.

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 7>And now in retrospect, of course, we all know that it's.

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Quite interesting that that used to be the Like, I

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know do they still do that where they like

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>see a kid actor and then go give that kid

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.239
<v Speaker 1>a show and build an entire Like that was how

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>our show got created, that was how Wowson got created.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>There was the Gabby what's her name show that wast

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>her own show. Like if you were a kid actor

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and you had like a breakout role in a movie,

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>you would just get a sitcom the next year they

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>would build a whole. I don't know if they'd do

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that anymore.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 5>That's so, Yeah, Disney Channel doesn't mean that and Nickelodeon,

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 5>even that girl Leyley was you know, so it's not

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 5>necessarily having a role in a movie. But maybe you

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 5>have a song, or you're a big social media talent

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 5>their you know, influencer type thing. If you're a personality,

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 5>a big personality as a kid, they might try to

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 5>build a show around you. I mean, Miam was such

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 5>a force at such a young age. What were your

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 5>first impressions of her?

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 7>I think really the same impressions that I have now.

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 7>I just know her a hell of a lot better.

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 7>And she's brilliant. I don't think anybody meets Miami and thinks,

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, yeah, yeah, she's okay, she's so smart, like

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 7>that's it. You know, that just doesn't happen. She's She's

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 7>a phenomenal woman. And I will say that we are

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 7>a lot closer now than we were back then. You know,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 7>it was a little bit odd with us growing up

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 7>together because she and Joey and I were so on

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 7>such fart ends of the spectrum when it came to

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 7>our likes and dislikes, and you know, she likes Elivius

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 7>Costello and Joey and I were singing harmonizing to boys

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 7>to men like it was very desperate scene. But but

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 7>she's just like, but she's always been so cool because

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 7>she's never been afraid to be her, very just unapologetically

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 7>her and I and that's something that I've you know, writer,

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.239
<v Speaker 7>you talk about you talked earlier about like looking up

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 7>to me and being experienced, Like I looked at Miam

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 7>like that. And although she had never done a show before,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 7>and you know, Joey and I had both spent years

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 7>already in the industry prior to being on Blossom. You know,

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 7>he did give me a break and all of that,

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 7>and I, you know, and I'd done tons of guest

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 7>spots and mini series and movies and whatever else like,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 7>but myam to me somehow was just this this like

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 7>essence of knowledge and and like, you know, just there's

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 7>she's just a fount of knowledge and and she's all

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 7>has been super professional, which I will say to all

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 7>of our credit is something that and I imagine this

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 7>was the same on your show too, But all of

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 7>us really really put a lot of stock in being

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 7>professional at all times. Yes, you know, I look at

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 7>shows that are on now and I think, you know,

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 7>it's a very different it's a very different scene, and

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 7>you do have sort of, like you said, Danielle, the

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 7>the those who sort of are involved because they've gained

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 7>notoriety through some other avenue like social media, which doesn't

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 7>necessarily prepare them for the type of work ethic that

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 7>happens on a set like.

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 3>We had absolutely what was the set of Blossom?

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 7>Like you know what it was? It was really awesome,

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 7>Like we had a lot of inside jokes and we

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 7>had like Miam and I used to it we laugh

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 7>now because we used to have these like little codes

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 7>that we would send each other about boys. Will I'm

0:30:58.960 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 7>sure your name.

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 6>Was in there where Oh it had to be, I'm sure.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 7>Actually, let me say so, you met her for the

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 7>first time not that long ago, like a couple of

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 7>weeks ago, and she she sent me a text and

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 7>she was like guess what and she the picture of

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 7>you guys together, and I was like, no way, that

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 7>was my first boyfriend. She goes, dude, I know that's

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 7>my point.

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's what I wanted to ask you, because she

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 4>said to me she were we were talking and she said,

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 4>why did you never come to the set?

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I wondered that too, because I never.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 6>I still I don't think I didn't.

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 4>I you never because and I answered truthfully and this,

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 4>and I'd like to know I'd like you to answer this,

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 4>because I was never invited you. Even when we were dating,

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 4>you never invited me to the set of Blossom. Maam

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 4>said it was because you thought she would she would

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 4>try to steal me. And she was joking, of course

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 4>as she was saying that, but she said, why didn't

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 4>you come? And it's when I realized you had never

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 4>once invited me to come to the set.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>A boy, Yeah, she was always I remember, yea.

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 7>All the time. It more likely was because I was

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 7>worried about what the hell Joey would say?

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, probably that makes sense, you know.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we've always had very much like this brother sister

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 7>relationship where like and never he's kind of like the

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 7>wild card for me, where I don't I don't noways no,

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 7>it's gonna come out with that, and I probably just

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 7>like I probably wanted keep it private and not feel

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 7>everybody was.

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>In on it, you know, so you weren't embarrassed by me?

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 7>Oh, for the love of God, No, no, now I

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 7>don't know.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well, now, well everybody is. I want to

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>have the Joey conversation. I want to hear what that

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, because when you started the show, he was

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously already working as a child actor, but he became

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>like the Joe Lawrence we know because of Blossom, Right,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>So what was that progression like as his character became,

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, this phenomenon, and as he became this public

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>figure and then a musician, like what happened there?

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 8>As his hair grew, I feel like so did his popularity, Yes,

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 8>and so did his He go, I don't know, I'm

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 8>just guessing.

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 7>I love me some, Joey, I say not. My point

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 7>in all of this is that when we started the show,

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 7>he yeah, I think you know, he'd done a lot

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.479
<v Speaker 7>of shows before. He, by far of all of us,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 7>had the most experienced. Sure, For as much as I

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 7>had on my resume, it did not it could not

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 7>compete with Joey having been on a series before and

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 7>really understanding that.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Day to day he worked NonStop from the time he

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 3>was five years old. I mean, he was the consummate.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:58.239
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even a child actor. He was just an

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>actor we'd been working for ever.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 7>And well and well deserved.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely so talented, so talented.

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 7>And so I think, you know, the the interesting thing

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 7>was to watch what happened as we grew enough into

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 7>our our bodies, ourselves that the audience, like all the

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 7>girls would start throwing. I mean they would. We would

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 7>come out for intros before the.

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 6>Show, you know, they'd cast intros.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, and people would like girls would throw underwear

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, I don't know if they packed them

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 7>and they're personal wearing them first, I don't want to know,

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 7>but they're the underwear were flung well well aimed. Might

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 7>I add flung had a teenager and you know, and

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 7>we were like we were like twelve, thirteen, fourteen, and

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 7>it was just that's what's so crazy is we started

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 7>to show when so I was twelve and I'm trying

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.720
<v Speaker 7>to think, so that would make I guess Joey thirteen

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 7>and I am fourteen, because I think I want to

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 7>say we were like a couple of years off from

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 7>each other, and uh yeah, so we just we we

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 7>literally went from being kids to being teenagers and him

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 7>being this teenage heart throb almost overnight, and they would

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 7>fling underwear, the condoms were thrown.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, this bizarre, Like I.

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 7>Don't even know if I knew what condoms were when

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:37.479
<v Speaker 7>they were That's how like early on it was. And yeah,

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 7>it was just bizarre. But also this kind of brilliant

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 7>phenomenon that happened where it was like the making of

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 7>an idol of a.

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Teenage Yeah, you really got to see them from the

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.479
<v Speaker 4>inside of the making of a teen idol, like going

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 4>back television wise, you're talking David Cassidy, Scott Bao. I mean,

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 4>this is like a generational teen icon. Was Joey Lawrence

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 4>in the late eighties early nineties. I mean, he was

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 4>that peak of talent and of popularity. It was.

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing, and so why should he not do.

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 7>A music video where he wraps and rides around like

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 7>a you know, a jokal gym thing like that's a

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 7>great naturally, that's the.

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 9>Next he throws the football to himself. He throws the

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 9>football and then catches the same football. It's very impressive,

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 9>very impressive.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 7>I feel like you've spent more time watching it than.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 4>I My stepdaughter from the time she was a little kid.

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Nothing of love can't fix for your baby has been

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 4>her jam. So it's yeah, I mean, but again just

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 4>very impressive to both be the quarterback and the wide

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 4>receiver at the same time.

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 7>Totally, totally, and I feel like at the next Super

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 7>Bowl we should really like him. Make sure some people

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 7>know about that, because that's how it brilliant is.

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 5>So Blossom was a mid season replacement that ended up

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 5>going one hundred and fourteen episodes.

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 6>When did you know it was a hit? And were

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 6>you recognized all the time?

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 7>So you know something that I don't, which is it

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 7>was one hundred and fourteen episodes. For some reason in

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 7>my head, I was thinking it was like one hundred

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 7>and twenty two or twenty three. But I also confusing

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 7>it with the Parkers right now.

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 6>Which okay, it's highly possible.

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it, I don't know when we knew. I can

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 7>tell you that the you know, we did the pilot,

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 7>it did not get picked up. I had gone so

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 7>when going back a little bit, when I went to LA,

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 7>when they flew med to LA from New York, and

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 7>I went to Network for Blossom, and they told me

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 7>right then and there, they told Joliana that we'd gotten it.

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 7>I then did not go to Network for Lenny, which

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 7>was immediately following like an hour or two later because

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 7>I already had a show, so I had to skip it. Well,

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 7>when Blossom didn't get picked up, Don Rio called me

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 7>and said, hey, would you like to be on Lenny instead?

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, well sure, I yeah, not an idiot. Yeah,

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 7>So I went and did Lenny. We did the pilot.

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 7>That show was already picked up, so I was on CBS.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 7>CBS had no idea, They didn't They didn't know that

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 7>I was the same girl from Blossom, which is super weird,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 7>but we'll go with it. I had like curly hair

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 7>on one show and straight hair on another, and apparently

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 7>it was terribly deceiving.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah you had Clark Clinton, Clark Clark Kent classes.

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, exactly. And then Lenny got halfway through the season

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.280
<v Speaker 7>and Blossom got picked up as a mid season replacement.

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 7>With this revamp of UH, Ted was being the single

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 7>dad as opposed to parents. We had, you know, originally

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 7>a mom and a dad, so it's Ted Wass as

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 7>a single parent. But they wanted to keep all the kids.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 7>So at that point, you know, Don Rio told NBC, well,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, I've got Jenna on this other show, and

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 7>they were like, what are you talking about. He was like, well,

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna have to recast six because Jenna is on

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 7>my other show on CBS. And they were like, you're kidding.

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 7>Oh okay, so they recast the role. Halfway through the

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 7>first week, Don calls me in my schoolroom and says, so, listen,

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 7>how do you feel about doing two shows at once?

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Wow, you're such a badass school sudro over it.

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 7>I was like, I'm in.

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I get off the phone.

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 7>My tutor, my tutor, God bless her, who I'm still

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 7>friends with. I don't know if she remembers this or not.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 7>I gotta ask her. But Sandy was like, so, uh,

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 7>Don doesn't really call you in your school in the

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 7>school much like what's going on. I was like, oh,

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna do both shows. She was like, and when

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 7>are we gonna do school? I was like, I'll figure it.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Out, school right Networks.

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 7>So I did both shows and we did. We filmed

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 7>one on Tuesdays and one on Fridays for half a

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 7>secon and I went back and forth and I did

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 7>both shows. And then at the end of the first year,

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 7>Lenny had been on CBS up against Murphy Brown, like

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 7>with Murphy Brown, but it was during the goal War,

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 7>and it just I mean, we got preempted so many times.

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 7>There was way that show could live.

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 3>What was Lenny very briefly, who was who was on

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Lenny based on.

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 7>This comedian Lenny Clark? Awesome, awesome, A lot of work.

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Since actually yeah, Lenny Clark, Yeah, Lenny.

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 7>And and then Lee Garlington, phenomenal actress played his wife.

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 7>There were great, great cast members, I mean just great.

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 7>It took place in Boston. He's this Boston comic and

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 7>it was like kind of the sort of the initiation

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 7>of of comics having television shows.

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like the Boston guy too.

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>It's Lenny Clark. Yeah, he's Boston.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he is Boston through and through. Yes. So yeah,

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 7>So I did that for half a season and then

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 7>it got canceled because of being prempted so many times.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 7>I just couldn't get the numbers up because of that

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 7>and and that. But Blossom, but Blossom went and uh

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 7>and so then they finally, you know, then they because

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 7>at first I had to be a guest star on

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 7>Blossom because I was irregular around money. So for like

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 7>the first half a season of the first year of Blossom,

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 7>I was a guest star I think until they could

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 7>could technically legally make you make me a regular. But yeah,

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 7>so we did. We did that and and yeah it

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 7>was just like this crazy, crazy situation that I can't

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 7>imagine happening now, and I yeah, it kind of blows

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 7>my mind.

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And six became such an identifiable character? Was it always

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean you talked about like wearing the hat at

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the network and stuff, But was it always written like

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>as this very identifiable, fast talking, quirky or was that

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of did that evolve with you in concert with

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the writing creating the character?

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 7>This is called Jena driving too much coffee as a kid?

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>True start?

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.839
<v Speaker 7>Wait did I answer the full question that you asked

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 7>me before? I'm trying to think. I feel like there

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 7>there was a tube parter and my the second part.

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 6>Of it was did you get recognized all the time?

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 7>Well, like when did we know that the show was?

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 6>Like did we did you know it was a hit?

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 6>And did you get recognized all the time?

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 7>I feel like so when the show got picked up

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 7>as a mid season replacement for a couple of years,

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 7>I don't feel like the first year or so it

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 7>was sort of just even keeled. And then I want

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 7>to say something weird happened with like Warren Littlefield was

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 7>president of NBC at the time, and I think, if

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 7>I recall correctly, and I hope I'm not misquoting all

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 7>of this, it's obviously been a His daughter was like

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 7>obsessed with the show when he was going to cancel it,

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 7>and she was like, oh my god, please please don't

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 7>do that. Like I think we almost single handedly can

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 7>can thank Warren Littlefield's daughter for the show being being

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 7>given that that chance UH to continue. And then it

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 7>really really took off. And I will say that the moment.

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 7>There were like two moments where I was like, oh

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 7>my god, I think actually, like maybe people watched this

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 7>show and it's a thing. The first was I went

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 7>to a Boys to Men concert.

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 6>Shocker and I can't wait to talk to you about

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 6>music go on and.

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 7>And mc hammer was also in concert with them. And

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 7>I was in like Peoria, Illinois doing some sort of

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 7>like signing or something, and you know, and people started climbing.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:54.879
<v Speaker 7>I was in like a little box thing and people

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 7>started climbing it to get autographs and they had to

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 7>carry me. They had actually had and I was like

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 7>geezh okay, like this might this might mean people watch

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 7>the show. The second one was that they parodied us

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 7>on Saturday and Saturday Night.

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>It definitely that's it, that's it for us, like.

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 7>Like mal Shannon and that was Yeah, I don't know,

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 7>maybe it wasn't Molly Shannon. I'm trying to remember who

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 7>was in there, but like Mike Myers, definitely Mike Joey.

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Joey, Yeah, I remember saying yeah, but you.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Blossom is also one of those shows, and

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 4>it might be right at the tail end of it, frankly,

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 4>but where the opening title sequence was hugely important to

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.879
<v Speaker 4>the show. Yeah, I mean these were you know, back

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 4>in the days of Family Ties Cosby Show, the opening

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 4>title sequence was really important.

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 3>It started to go away.

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Seinfeld got rid of it essentially entirely, Boymans World even

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 4>got rid of it entirely. But that I remember distinctly

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 4>people singing the home humming along with the song, seeing

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.959
<v Speaker 4>you all come out and dancing. I mean, it really

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 4>was its own character at that time in television where

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 4>that opening title sequences were important. I mean it really

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.720
<v Speaker 4>it mattered what your opening title sequence was, and Blossom

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 4>was one of the last ones that was really had

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 4>that signature.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if I've ever realized that. You know,

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 7>the original song was Bobby Brown's Don't Worry I'm blanky prerogative.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>It was a real hy pregative that was like.

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 7>The initial theme song. And then I don't know what happened.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 7>I'm sure it was a like a rights issue and

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 7>they couldn't it wasn't sustainable, but uh yeah, and then

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 7>it became you know, I think it's doctor John is

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 7>who sings my opinionation, and then that became like the

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 7>the thing, so weird.

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 5>So music is a huge part of your life and

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 5>was always a passion of yours.

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 6>Where did that come from? And tell us what it's

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 6>meant to you over your life?

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.760
<v Speaker 7>I mean, music was always I think my dad sings

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 7>my you know, I mean my dad sings, but it's like,

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 7>you know, church choir. And I grew up listening only

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 7>to classical music, and I think my mom listened to

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.320
<v Speaker 7>John Denver. That was about the extent of my music knowledge.

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 10>Like my mom didn't doesn't like Elvis at all, didn't

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 10>like the Beatles, so like I had to teach myself

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 10>music and which now this has become a big thing

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 10>in my household, Like when I'm cooking dinner, I put

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 10>on music from different genres and different eras for my

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 10>girls because I really I'm like, okay, who's sing this?

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 7>Come on?

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, like my daughter.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.240
<v Speaker 7>Exactly. And my daughter has taken to wearing Cyndy Lopper

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 7>gloves to school on a daily base mat her outfit.

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:57.919
<v Speaker 7>So I' mean it's fine, It's all good. I don't

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 7>know that school's thrilled with me about it, but I'm

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 7>but I'm thrilled.

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 6>I love happy.

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we're channeling the eighties over here. But yeah. So

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 7>I kind of like taught myself music and it was

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 7>always super important to me. I wrote from the time

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 7>I was very very little. That was always an outlet

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 7>for me in some former fashion, and I think it

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 7>started out with music and poetry and things of that nature.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 7>And now I write, you know, film scripts, and I

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 7>write for a lifestyle publication in Nashville and all that

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 7>kind of stuff. So I've been I've always written, just

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 7>in different in different capacities. But because my parents didn't

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 7>really raise me to know a broad musical horizon, I

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 7>was very excited being on Blossom because we had crazy

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 7>cool music guests, everybody from BB King to you know,

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 7>little Richard See and See Music Factory. Like the list

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 7>just goes on and on and on. I mean, it

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 7>was a phenomenal, phenomenal, eye opening musical experience, I think

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 7>to be on the show because Don Rio is such

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 7>a music fan that he invited as many people as

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 7>he could that he loved and respected to the show.

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 7>And you know, and we all had really vast and

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 7>varied musical Mayam was very much the like violent Femmes

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 7>and Elvis Costello and and and you know again, Joey

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 7>was very and Joey was the boys to men and

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 7>and and you know, and all of that, and so

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 7>it was kind of a cool exposure.

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 6>That's so great.

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you've mentioned your daughters a couple of times. Now

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 5>you have two daughters, and you've been able to write

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:55.479
<v Speaker 5>about your experience with the situation Mammady books. What would

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 5>you say is the most important lesson you've learned in

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.280
<v Speaker 5>Mother Grace?

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:09.399
<v Speaker 7>Just Grace capital g R A c E. My kids

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 7>are amazing. My older daughter is Gray, she's eleven. Uh.

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 7>And then my younger daughter, Marlowe.

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Is nine, and you know her name is Gray.

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Her name is gret.

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 7>I was like, wow, no, no, I mean they make

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 7>me go gray by wearing the ball. Now they're and

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 7>they're amazing, They're they're so awesome, Like it's just it's

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 7>really cool to parenting is really cool. Like adulting sucks ass,

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 7>but parenting is really cool. And I think some they're

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 7>you know, they're so Yeah. Gray's in middle school and

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 7>she's my introspective, avid reader. She's kind of me at

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 7>her age. She very much wants to people please, and

0:49:56.200 --> 0:50:00.720
<v Speaker 7>she's like she wants everybody to know she's trying her best,

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 7>and she's kicking butt in school and she's like in

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 7>the gifted program and she's you know, I mean, she's

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:13.479
<v Speaker 7>freaking brilliant and she's super intuitive. If she understands things

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 7>that it's just not even right. It's not fair and

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 7>not right because because there are just conversations we shouldn't have,

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 7>but we do and they're awesome. And I pour myself

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 7>a bourbon and we sit down and we chat. But

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:30.879
<v Speaker 7>and then Marlowe is like my little spitfirefirecracker. She's kind

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 7>of me once I realized that I had a voice,

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 7>And I'm super impressed that she at nine years old

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 7>already knows that she has one's Wow, it's pretty pretty cool.

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 5>So if your girls came to you and said they

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 5>wanted to get into acting, what do you think you

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 5>would say?

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 7>Well, they have, which is crazy. I think this is

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 7>probably the first interview I've done since I haven't done

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 7>one in a while where question has been asked, and

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 7>like in the past, you know, I was always like, wow,

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 7>if they're really serious about it, obviously you know this.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 7>This industry comes with its pitfalls, and it's I mean,

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 7>there were so many highs and lows on a daily

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 7>basis really with this industry. And but having experienced as

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 7>much as we all have, particularly during a time when

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:30.399
<v Speaker 7>I think that we understand work ethic and and sort

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.879
<v Speaker 7>of like the sort of old school industry the way

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 7>that we do, which I have a lot of appreciation

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 7>for old school industry, I feel like I could coach

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 7>them through it in a way that would you know,

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 7>my parents were so green, they just didn't know about

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 7>any of it, And having the background that we have

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 7>makes it a little bit easier. At the same time,

0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 7>having the background makes me sit back and go, you

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 7>better really want it, kid. Yeah, So yeah, I you know,

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 7>they just need to really want. I want to know

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 7>it's coming from them. It's not a hey, you did it,

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 7>so I'm curious about it being this is awesome. You

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.240
<v Speaker 7>should be curious about everything. Please be curious, be curious

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 7>about it all. But to actually pursue this industry, I

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 7>need to know that you want it for you. This

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 7>is your passion, not your passion because it was my

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 7>passion or is my passion. Yeah, and you know, both

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 7>of my kids have expressed high, high level interest in it,

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 7>but they're both really young and I so I also

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 7>understand that we live in a world where social media

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 7>has produced very you know, people with a lot of

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 7>notoriety that haven't necessarily used talent to get there. That's like,

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 7>you know, I'm just trying to be fair about this

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 7>whole thing. Like social media isn't a necessarily always based

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 7>on talent. Now that's not to say it isn't based

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 7>on business savvy, totally different thing. But to actually be

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 7>an actress, like I want to know that you have

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:14.320
<v Speaker 7>talent and want.

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 4>This is like what you actually has to be about

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 4>the art or expression, yeah, not not personal desire to

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 4>do it.

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:25.320
<v Speaker 7>Yourself too, right, not that like Taylor Swift is famous,

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 7>ergo I should be famous, right, Like, this is not

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, that's not what I'm working. I'm not going

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 7>to work with that. So so I'm really I'm careful.

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm mindful about thoughtful all about their about their pursuits,

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:44.760
<v Speaker 7>because I just want to make sure it really truly

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 7>is coming from the right place and coming from their

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 7>art and and and nothing else.

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:52.839
<v Speaker 6>Have they watched Blossom? Do they know how cool you were?

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 7>And are? Well? I don't know about cool, because I'm

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:58.879
<v Speaker 7>pretty sure if you ask both of my children they'd

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 7>be like, oh, have you seen our mind dance? I'm

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 7>I want to say they've seen an episode of Blossom.

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 7>I believe I showed them an episode of Blossom a

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 7>couple of years ago because they were what they were

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 7>asking about it, and I wanted them, you know, I'm

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 7>proud of it, like I am really proud of it,

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 7>and I want them to have context. At the same time,

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:27.720
<v Speaker 7>I don't want them to feel any sense of weird

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 7>entitlement by that, or like confusion that somehow I don't know,

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 7>that's just not really a part of our lives at

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:42.360
<v Speaker 7>this particular juncture, you know, And I want them to

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 7>feel my sense of pride and understand my work ethic

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 7>without thinking that it's cool that I.

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Was on the show.

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, do you still get recognized?

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. How long have you been in You're in Nashville, right,

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 1>how long have you been there?

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:06.840
<v Speaker 7>Here's what's crazy. So come April, I'll be here seventeen years. Wow,

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:10.319
<v Speaker 7>And I was early and I was in La seventeen years.

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 7>So this bizarre thing for me is is hitting this

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 7>moment where I'm like, oh, wow, I've actually been in

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:20.400
<v Speaker 7>both places.

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 6>Just as long.

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for an equal amnt of time.

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:24.919
<v Speaker 6>So cool, so weird.

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 5>So looking back now almost thirty five years, so's awesome, debuted,

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 5>I hear nothing. What I know looking at young Jenna's

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 5>work dating young Wilfredell at the time. Yeah, how do

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:47.840
<v Speaker 5>you feel about young Jenna and what message would you

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 5>like to give to her today?

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 7>Oh gosh, it's I mean, it's kind of the same

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 7>message that I give myself and my kids now about

0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 7>about having grace. I think you know, I knew exactly

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 7>what I was getting into at that time, in the

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 7>sense that it was my passion. I wanted so badly

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 7>to continue working. I was the one who begged my

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:21.160
<v Speaker 7>parents to be an actress. I you know, wasn't their idea,

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 7>it was mine, and I continued to have one passion

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.840
<v Speaker 7>for it. I still do. You know, being in Nashville

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 7>doesn't change the fact that I absolutely love being on camera.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 7>I love memorizing lines. I love writing scripts, I love

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 7>reading scripts. I love sitting with the cast at the

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 7>first read.

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I love.

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:44.400
<v Speaker 7>I love all of it. I love all of it,

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:45.760
<v Speaker 7>every every last.

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Bit of it.

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 7>But I think the biggest thing for me would just be,

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:58.239
<v Speaker 7>you know, we all go through our own evolution with

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 7>self awareness, and I had a really hard time, I think.

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 7>I you know, we were on shows during a time

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 7>when someone like Tracy Gold was getting called fat, yeah,

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 7>and it was drastically affecting her view of herself, and

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.439
<v Speaker 7>it caused her to in a big way and caused

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 7>her to have an eating disorder, you know. And I

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 7>think we probably, all, in our own ways, Carrie with us,

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 7>certain elements of that time of feeling like really we

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 7>could like you know, now everybody's far more careful about

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:43.240
<v Speaker 7>what they joke about. To be fair, you know, everybody's

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 7>really aware of mental health, particularly following COVID. You know,

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 7>and we were on shows during a time where they

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 7>made a lot of fun of things because they they could,

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 7>and it wasn't nobody was saying, hey, maybe that's maybe

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 7>that's harming this person in the long run.

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 7>I'd like to think that what I would tell myself

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 7>is to just sort of take it with a grain

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 7>of salt. And I probably wouldn't believe it if I

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 7>heard it. I probably heard it from somebody then and

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 7>didn't you know, as we all have to go through

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 7>our own experiences with it. And I'm very much a

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 7>visual person, so I'm not shocked that I had to

0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 7>be hands on in all of it to really appreciate that.

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 7>But I'd like to think that having self awareness and

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 7>evolving and adulting, man, I feel like it has helped me,

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 7>has helped me outgrow some of those some of those

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:55.240
<v Speaker 7>difficulties with self confidence, you know, which is also again

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 7>why I go back to it's so interesting to hear

0:58:57.240 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 7>you say writer that I've seemed so so confident, because

0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 7>I felt so far from confident during that time. And ironically,

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 7>I want to say that because I did my MS

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 7>podcast at one point and I want to say she

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 7>said something similar to me, and like, I just there

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 7>is nothing that I never ever felt confident. I still

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 7>wake up in the morning and drink my cup of

0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 7>coffee and I'm like, do I feel confident today?

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 7>We'll see how it goes, Like you know, so, it's

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 7>so interesting to hear other people's perspectives relatively kind of

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 7>shining a shining a light on your own opinions on it.

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 5>But well, Jenna, you were one of the coolest people

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 5>we knew back then, and you're still one of the

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 5>coolest people we know today. And we are honored that

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 5>you spend your time with us this morning. It's so

0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:55.200
<v Speaker 5>good to reconnect with you. Please let us know the

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 5>next time you're in La we would absolutely love to

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 5>do that dinner.

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.240
<v Speaker 7>Still existed, which I'm assuming it doesn't.

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 1>There's one well ren Selica's.

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Restaurant and look at each other while not eating salad,

1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 4>and Jenna and I will record it on a tape

1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 4>recorder for teen b and I'll bring my mom, who

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<v Speaker 4>will take a photo shoot for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we've got it. We've hit the nail on

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<v Speaker 7>the head here.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got to find that tape Jenna, We've got to

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<v Speaker 4>find that tape of the original first date.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, I wonder if I probably turned it

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<v Speaker 7>into team Beat. It's either you know, burned somewhere, or

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<v Speaker 7>it's in like some scary archive in some mic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on microfish somewhere.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>This was Awesomeank you so good to see you, big, big,

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<v Speaker 5>big hug. Can't wait to give it to you in person.

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<v Speaker 5>You jugs same here, all right, bye bye. It's so

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<v Speaker 5>interesting how many women we speak to who all have

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the same the same stories. And it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just women. Of course, men in the industry also have

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<v Speaker 5>their own, you know, feelings of insecurity and whatever. But really,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, almost every woman we talk to has some

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<v Speaker 5>story about feeling not beautiful or you know, worried about

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<v Speaker 5>whether or not they were overweight. And you know, they're

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<v Speaker 5>always the people that were like, wait, what like are

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<v Speaker 5>It's just you know, you aren't a good judge of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>We are, certainly in terms of the looks, but even

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<v Speaker 1>even in terms of like it's so funny that she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think of herself as like put together.

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<v Speaker 6>Or are confident when like she was the all the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Confident, funny like knew everything about like I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's you know, it just goes to show

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<v Speaker 1>that like no matter what stage you're in, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager acting on a TV show or a forty

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<v Speaker 1>four year old sad dad, to get out of your

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<v Speaker 1>own way, like don't worry about it, like just be

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<v Speaker 1>just be focused on you know, your goals and the

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<v Speaker 1>thing you want to be and be in the print

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<v Speaker 1>and just just worry about that. Like if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you worry too much about who you are, what you

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<v Speaker 1>look like, what you sound like, or what people's perception

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<v Speaker 1>of you, it's it's never good. Like it doesn't it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't help any like because you actually will never know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you could be going through the worst

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<v Speaker 1>time I said than done.

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<v Speaker 4>Though everybody says to themselves like I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>care and people think about me, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>care how I look, and it's almost impossible to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody seems to care about all that stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it's the older you're getting older, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to let that stuff go, but it's hard.

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<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, you know, it's different now, than it was

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<v Speaker 4>when I was fifteen sixteen, but it's still always there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, when you're that age too, it's really hard

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<v Speaker 5>for you to understand that you're actually not the center

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<v Speaker 5>of the universe.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Fundamentally, you're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 5>Think you're the center of the universe at that time,

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<v Speaker 5>and yet trying to tell yourself no one else is

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<v Speaker 5>thinking this as much as you are.

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<v Speaker 6>Is impossible that Well, if you're on.

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<v Speaker 1>A TV show, you actually are kind of the center.

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<v Speaker 6>You're the center of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's it's so weird, right, Like when you're

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<v Speaker 1>an adolescent and you still do think the world revolves

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<v Speaker 1>around like we're social life, and then like your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>the people you work with are also being recognized everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>you go. It's a weird thing. Like it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>it's distorting. It was always a distorting mirror.

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