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Speaker 1: With you drunk and then you don't mind having a cold.

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering if you guys can give me any advice

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Speaker 5: I shan't okay, Well, first of all, do you use

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Speaker 5: a netty pot?

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Speaker 4: What a nutty pot? I do not use a net

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm put things up my nose.

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Speaker 5: And then okay, Well, I would like to say that

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Speaker 5: a Nettie pot one is great even if you don't

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Speaker 5: have a cold. It helps prevent you possibly from getting sick,

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Speaker 5: because nasal visage is getting all, you know, helping keep

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Speaker 5: will help push things through faster. I really cannot say

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Speaker 5: enough wonderful things about a Nettie pot and I would

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Speaker 1: Do we just enter an Nettie Pot commercial? And I

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Speaker 6: I don't know what the pot Neteethpot.

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Speaker 5: You can get it at your local CBS, Walgreens, Nettie

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Speaker 1: I've actually never used the pot, but I know people

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Speaker 1: like around me you swore it, but it's I also

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Speaker 1: heard it's kind of addictive, though, like one of those

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Speaker 5: I don't recommend using it every day. I don't recommend

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Speaker 5: And a cinnamon stick. And it will help one help

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Speaker 3: I have no symptoms other than my head.

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Speaker 6: Is clogged for I can hear it.

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Speaker 2: Just I cannot kick this thing. It is killing me

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Speaker 6: I'm so sorry. I also really love Faara Flu.

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Speaker 6: Bourbon the least natural.

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Speaker 4: Tell you, though, I'll meet you in the middle and

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Speaker 4: I will drink bourbon in the shower.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl.

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Speaker 1: I'm right or strong Will Fidel.

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Speaker 5: At this point in the podcast, we all know about

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Speaker 5: Andy and Danny, the unstoppable nineties duo that took photos

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Speaker 5: throughout all of Los Angeles and held up childhood blankies

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Speaker 6: Cars like it was nobody's business.

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Speaker 5: But what you don't know is that we had a

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Speaker 5: Our guest this week is best known as the iconic

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Speaker 5: She'd also be seen in The Night Story Really it

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Speaker 5: was Yes, Wow, isn't that funny? I didn't know that either.

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Speaker 5: Seen in the nineteen ninety nine sitcom The Parkers and

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Speaker 5: heard as Stacy in the classic A Goofy movie. But

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Speaker 5: to welcome not only a nineties sitcom legend to pod

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Speaker 5: Will and writer.

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Speaker 6: It's Jenna VANOI.

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Speaker 2: Thought I was white, white, Selica.

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Speaker 6: Hers was red.

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Speaker 5: Let's ask her if hers is white.

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Speaker 7: Walking abound.

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Speaker 5: Tell me was your convertible convertible Selica white or red?

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Speaker 7: I'm just curious. At first, I have to ask who

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Speaker 7: said what I said red?

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Speaker 1: I said white? I don't remember.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm gonna go with the guy I dated.

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Speaker 4: My Selica was read. Hers was white. That's one of

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's correct.

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Speaker 6: Wow, believable. I'm really.

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Speaker 7: So I'm going to see you. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 5: First of all, my whole life, I've wanted a red

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Speaker 1: Well, you were inspired by her, but then it became

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, it was like you know the dream that

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Speaker 5: cherry red. Wow, it's pretty pretty amazing. So to jump

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Speaker 5: into all of this, do you know how many photos

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Speaker 5: we took together and related to that? Do you have

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Speaker 7: No, because my mother has already sent me all of

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Speaker 7: the ones that she's stockpiled in her attic, and there

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Speaker 7: I will say this. So I have a nine and

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Speaker 7: this is a really good summer project. Guys, I'm really.

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Speaker 1: You're going to make them Yeah, you're gonna consolidate.

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Speaker 7: I like that, Yes, because my mother gave me all

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Speaker 6: What am I gonna do with all this? I have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. Just to take your pictures out, you

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: My god.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I'll show myself out. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm officially done for the day.

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Speaker 7: Let me just say that some things never change, all right.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys have any memory of meeting Jenna or Jenna?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember meeting us? Because for me, you just

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you were the folest person ever.

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Speaker 1: And I remember everything about meeting Jenna, all.

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Speaker 4: Well, So Jenna was writing an article for was it

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Speaker 3: And so was it Scott Appel?

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Speaker 4: Somebody put us together through a publicist, put us together

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Speaker 7: I feel like there was probably underlying matchmaking things happening

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And so we went to an Italian restaurant in Burbank

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Speaker 7: She broke up with me in a parking lot in Connecticut.

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Speaker 7: But that's like a story for another time.

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Speaker 5: Forget the story, tell that story, Jenna Gough.

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Speaker 6: You were a fast girl.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, you were just the one who knew

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Speaker 7: But do you feel like that how people who are

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Speaker 4: But for you, hell it was it was Yeah, ocean

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Speaker 5: I think you did do the second year because good,

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Speaker 7: Other than that I was nuts. You know, acting is

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Speaker 7: Georde Ash Jean's the next. And I was like, hmmm, no,

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Speaker 7: My parents didn't know any better and that they were

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Speaker 7: and and well not be taking taken advantage of quite

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Speaker 6: So what was the first job you booked?

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Speaker 7: It was a It was a Jello Pudding Pops commercial

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Speaker 3: Now I remember this.

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Speaker 2: We talked.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I was an extra. One of the girls licked

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Speaker 6: Tell us more, I.

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Speaker 7: You know, other than her getting her tongues, Like, that's

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Speaker 7: Six years old?

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Speaker 2: Six? Okay, so yeah you were you were in the

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Speaker 7: So me, Joey, Melissa Hart, Sarah Geller, Natasha Leone, these

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, so you knew Joey before Blossom.

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Speaker 7: So I didn't know Joey, but we were both auditioning

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Speaker 4: When did you then get or hear about Blossom for

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Speaker 2: Was it a thing?

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Speaker 1: You guys were the cool New York kids. We were,

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 1: Always there's always this. The network test came down to

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Speaker 7: It sucked for us, but not true because I went

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Speaker 7: Mean that's probably fair. Yeah, Like I'm not taking the

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Speaker 7: train to the audition today, I'm flying it. Like that's

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Speaker 7: pretty high tech.

449
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Speaker 4: And staying at the Universal Sheridan is always there's always

450
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Speaker 4: it was.

451
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Speaker 7: Always that Howard Johnson's, which may not Howard Johnson's anymore

452
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Speaker 7: on like Vineland or Joe's.

453
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Speaker 1: Oh my I with my manager all the time, with

454
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Speaker 1: Bruce and I at that Howard Johnson's. Yes, oh, I

455
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: remember the taste of the instant coffee that you would

456
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Speaker 1: get in your room.

457
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Speaker 7: Yeah, for me, it was there. It was like an

458
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Speaker 7: attached restaurant at the time, you know, going back a

459
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 7: little bit far, and they had these like fried clams

460
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Speaker 7: and clam chowder. And of course it was not like

461
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 7: an East Coast clam chowder at no, I mean not

462
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Speaker 7: even close. But it was like the only thing even

463
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Speaker 7: close to home that I could find, and I was

464
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 7: latching onto it like yes.

465
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I can't let one thing pass rider. How

466
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 4: old were you when you were drinking the instant coffee

467
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Speaker 4: in the hotel.

468
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Speaker 1: Room, Probably starting at eleven. I was like super sweet.

469
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Speaker 4: It would like it would be like it was like

470
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Speaker 4: wait a minute, you're now tell as a kid you're

471
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Speaker 4: drinking the coffee.

472
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Speaker 6: I started drinking coffee at twelve.

473
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Speaker 7: I started drinking coffee at six years old on my

474
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Speaker 7: way to New York for three am, because we would

475
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Speaker 7: have to we would leave from Fairfield train station. There

476
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Speaker 7: was a Dunkin Donuts at the train station, and I

477
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 7: would have to be in by six am or whatever,

478
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 7: so we'd have to leave my house at six or

479
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 7: at three rather to get there by six, and so

480
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 7: my dad would get me half coffee, half cream. I

481
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 7: tributed all of my Napoleon Napoleonic stature. I have my

482
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 7: coffee obsession, my father getting me dunkin donuts.

483
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Speaker 6: And now I say the same thing.

484
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Speaker 5: I'm horizontally challenged because of the coffee at twelve.

485
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Speaker 7: As fun sized, blind sized size.

486
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Speaker 4: At eleven years old, the coffee would have ruined the

487
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Speaker 4: taste of my cigarettes.

488
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Speaker 5: Okay, so will you tell us a little bit about

489
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Speaker 5: what we'll ask the blah how did Blossom come around?

490
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Speaker 7: So I auditioned in New York the same day that

491
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Speaker 7: I auditioned for Blossom. And this is like the most

492
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Speaker 7: probably one of the weirdest stories for me, because I'm

493
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Speaker 7: not really a believer of ghosts or things of that

494
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 7: supernatural things of that nature, just not very much. A

495
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 7: I like logic. I really love logic. I really embrace logic,

496
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 7: and so things like that kind of tend to elude me. However,

497
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 7: on this particular day, I was auditioning for three different things.

498
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Speaker 7: One was a show called Lenny, one was a show

499
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Speaker 7: called Blossom, and one was some sort of miniseries or

500
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 7: commercial or something. And I got on the train with

501
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 7: my mom and we sat in the back and this

502
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 7: man was sitting in the row in front of us,

503
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Speaker 7: and he turned around and he started talking to me,

504
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 7: because in those days, a grown up can talk to

505
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 7: a child and it's not terrifying now. And this man

506
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 7: was like, you know, what are you going to New

507
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 7: York for? And I said, Oh, I'm an actress. I'm

508
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 7: going to some auditions. And he goes tell me about them.

509
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 7: And normally I would not have done that, right, I

510
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 7: would have felt very uncomfortable and not done this. For

511
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 7: some reason, I felt very comfortable, and I said, I'm

512
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 7: going on an audition for this show, this show or

513
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 7: this mini series, this show and this commercial or whatever.

514
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 7: He was like, Blossom that one. You're gonna get that?

515
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 7: Get ready?

516
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: Wow geez?

517
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 7: And I was like okay, thanks.

518
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: Well.

519
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 7: At the next stop, we looked and he was gone,

520
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 7: like he had gotten up and left. We hadn't noticed

521
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 7: he had totally disappeared. And I was like, Mommy, what

522
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 7: would happen if, like I did get this show and

523
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 7: it filmed in California? And she goes, oh, we'll cross

524
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 7: that bridge when we get to it, and I was like,

525
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 7: I think we're at it. He just said I'm getting it,

526
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 7: and lo and behold I go. And I auditioned for

527
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Speaker 7: the show, and then I also auditioned for the show

528
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Speaker 7: called Lenny. So Lenny and Blossom were both created by

529
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 7: Don Rio, amazing, just phenomenal writer. Both were with Thomas shows.

530
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 7: One was NBC, one was CBS. And when I was

531
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 7: flown to California to test for Blossom, I was also

532
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 7: flown to California to test for Lenny.

533
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: They were vying for you. Yeah, and that's always the

534
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: best way to be in hollywod.

535
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Speaker 7: Let's I mean, yeah, I'm not not complaining at all

536
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 7: and uh and so, but Blossom was first, and before

537
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 7: we went to network, they brought Miam and I together

538
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 7: at the Sunset Gower lot and we went up to

539
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 7: this room and I'll never forget this, Like I can

540
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 7: remember what she was wearing. I remember what I was wearing.

541
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 7: Of course they told me to bring I had worn

542
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 7: this like crazy wide brimmed purple hat to the audition

543
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 7: and when I got the callback, they were like, tell

544
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 7: her to wear the hat, and so network work, they

545
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 7: were like, tell her to wear the hat again. So

546
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 7: it became part of my character. You were the character, right,

547
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 7: and being a New Yorker or being you know, being

548
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 7: from the East Coast, just being an East Coast girl.

549
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 7: Like I talked, I talked quickly. It's you know, south

550
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 7: now for seventeen years, so probably sounds I'm like very

551
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 7: bipolar in my in my chair or in my language.

552
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 7: But but back then I was very much sounded East

553
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 7: Coast and uh and I think that the fast talking yeah,

554
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 7: derived from that. And uh so, yeah, So they brought

555
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 7: me up and I talked to Maam and we did

556
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 7: the scene together, and then we went into Network together.

557
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 7: She had already gotten the role. They brought me in

558
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 7: with her because they knew that they wanted me and

559
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 7: and they wanted to make sure that that was what happened.

560
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 7: Joey was also there, so you know, they had us

561
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 7: and they told us talk about crazy because this would

562
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Speaker 7: not happen now. We walked out of the room. They

563
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Speaker 7: told us to hang on for a second. They told

564
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Speaker 7: us we got it outside of the room. She was

565
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Speaker 7: at Network when it happened.

566
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Speaker 1: My hold on a second. But Mie was the show, right,

567
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: she was already cast, like the show was being built

568
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: her out but you and Joey both got the art

569
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: at the same time in the chemistry test. Amazing.

570
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I saw the show.

571
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: They were like, here's the show.

572
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, mine had done Beaches already, right, I mean, that's

573
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: where she's.

574
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 7: Why they created And then she had also done a

575
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 7: show called Malloy, a very short lived show called Malloy

576
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 7: after Beaches with Jennifer Aniston. And so they knew that

577
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 7: she could. I feel like they knew that she could

578
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 7: carry a sitcom. Dawn for she could carry a sitcom.

579
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 7: And now in retrospect, of course, we all know that it's.

580
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Speaker 1: Quite interesting that that used to be the Like, I

581
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: don't know do they still do that where they like

582
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: see a kid actor and then go give that kid

583
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 1: a show and build an entire Like that was how

584
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: our show got created, that was how Wowson got created.

585
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: There was the Gabby what's her name show that wast

586
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: her own show. Like if you were a kid actor

587
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: and you had like a breakout role in a movie,

588
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: you would just get a sitcom the next year they

589
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: would build a whole. I don't know if they'd do

590
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: that anymore.

591
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: That's so, Yeah, Disney Channel doesn't mean that and Nickelodeon,

592
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: even that girl Leyley was you know, so it's not

593
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 5: necessarily having a role in a movie. But maybe you

594
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: have a song, or you're a big social media talent

595
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 5: their you know, influencer type thing. If you're a personality,

596
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: a big personality as a kid, they might try to

597
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 5: build a show around you. I mean, Miam was such

598
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: a force at such a young age. What were your

599
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 5: first impressions of her?

600
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 7: I think really the same impressions that I have now.

601
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 7: I just know her a hell of a lot better.

602
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 7: And she's brilliant. I don't think anybody meets Miami and thinks,

603
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, yeah, she's okay, she's so smart, like

604
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 7: that's it. You know, that just doesn't happen. She's She's

605
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 7: a phenomenal woman. And I will say that we are

606
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 7: a lot closer now than we were back then. You know,

607
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 7: it was a little bit odd with us growing up

608
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 7: together because she and Joey and I were so on

609
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 7: such fart ends of the spectrum when it came to

610
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 7: our likes and dislikes, and you know, she likes Elivius

611
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 7: Costello and Joey and I were singing harmonizing to boys

612
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 7: to men like it was very desperate scene. But but

613
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 7: she's just like, but she's always been so cool because

614
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 7: she's never been afraid to be her, very just unapologetically

615
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 7: her and I and that's something that I've you know, writer,

616
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 7: you talk about you talked earlier about like looking up

617
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 7: to me and being experienced, Like I looked at Miam

618
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 7: like that. And although she had never done a show before,

619
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 7: and you know, Joey and I had both spent years

620
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 7: already in the industry prior to being on Blossom. You know,

621
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 7: he did give me a break and all of that,

622
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 7: and I, you know, and I'd done tons of guest

623
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 7: spots and mini series and movies and whatever else like,

624
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 7: but myam to me somehow was just this this like

625
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 7: essence of knowledge and and like, you know, just there's

626
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 7: she's just a fount of knowledge and and she's all

627
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 7: has been super professional, which I will say to all

628
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 7: of our credit is something that and I imagine this

629
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 7: was the same on your show too, But all of

630
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 7: us really really put a lot of stock in being

631
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 7: professional at all times. Yes, you know, I look at

632
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 7: shows that are on now and I think, you know,

633
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 7: it's a very different it's a very different scene, and

634
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 7: you do have sort of, like you said, Danielle, the

635
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 7: the those who sort of are involved because they've gained

636
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 7: notoriety through some other avenue like social media, which doesn't

637
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 7: necessarily prepare them for the type of work ethic that

638
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 7: happens on a set like.

639
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: We had absolutely what was the set of Blossom?

640
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 7: Like you know what it was? It was really awesome,

641
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 7: Like we had a lot of inside jokes and we

642
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 7: had like Miam and I used to it we laugh

643
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 7: now because we used to have these like little codes

644
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 7: that we would send each other about boys. Will I'm

645
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 7: sure your name.

646
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 6: Was in there where Oh it had to be, I'm sure.

647
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 7: Actually, let me say so, you met her for the

648
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 7: first time not that long ago, like a couple of

649
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 7: weeks ago, and she she sent me a text and

650
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 7: she was like guess what and she the picture of

651
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 7: you guys together, and I was like, no way, that

652
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 7: was my first boyfriend. She goes, dude, I know that's

653
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 7: my point.

654
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I wanted to ask you, because she

655
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: said to me she were we were talking and she said,

656
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: why did you never come to the set?

657
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: I wondered that too, because I never.

658
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: I still I don't think I didn't.

659
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: I you never because and I answered truthfully and this,

660
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: and I'd like to know I'd like you to answer this,

661
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: because I was never invited you. Even when we were dating,

662
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: you never invited me to the set of Blossom. Maam

663
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: said it was because you thought she would she would

664
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: try to steal me. And she was joking, of course

665
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: as she was saying that, but she said, why didn't

666
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: you come? And it's when I realized you had never

667
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: once invited me to come to the set.

668
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: A boy, Yeah, she was always I remember, yea.

669
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 7: All the time. It more likely was because I was

670
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 7: worried about what the hell Joey would say?

671
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Oh really, probably that makes sense, you know.

672
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, we've always had very much like this brother sister

673
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 7: relationship where like and never he's kind of like the

674
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 7: wild card for me, where I don't I don't noways no,

675
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 7: it's gonna come out with that, and I probably just

676
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 7: like I probably wanted keep it private and not feel

677
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 7: everybody was.

678
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: In on it, you know, so you weren't embarrassed by me?

679
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 7: Oh, for the love of God, No, no, now I

680
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 7: don't know.

681
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, now, well everybody is. I want to

682
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: have the Joey conversation. I want to hear what that

683
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: was like, because when you started the show, he was

684
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: obviously already working as a child actor, but he became

685
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: like the Joe Lawrence we know because of Blossom, Right,

686
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: So what was that progression like as his character became,

687
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, this phenomenon, and as he became this public

688
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: figure and then a musician, like what happened there?

689
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: Well?

690
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 8: As his hair grew, I feel like so did his popularity, Yes,

691
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 8: and so did his He go, I don't know, I'm

692
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 8: just guessing.

693
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 7: I love me some, Joey, I say not. My point

694
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 7: in all of this is that when we started the show,

695
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 7: he yeah, I think you know, he'd done a lot

696
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 7: of shows before. He, by far of all of us,

697
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 7: had the most experienced. Sure, For as much as I

698
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 7: had on my resume, it did not it could not

699
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 7: compete with Joey having been on a series before and

700
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 7: really understanding that.

701
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: Day to day he worked NonStop from the time he

702
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: was five years old. I mean, he was the consummate.

703
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a child actor. He was just an

704
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: actor we'd been working for ever.

705
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 7: And well and well deserved.

706
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so talented, so talented.

707
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 7: And so I think, you know, the the interesting thing

708
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 7: was to watch what happened as we grew enough into

709
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 7: our our bodies, ourselves that the audience, like all the

710
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 7: girls would start throwing. I mean they would. We would

711
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 7: come out for intros before the.

712
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 6: Show, you know, they'd cast intros.

713
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and people would like girls would throw underwear

714
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 7: and I'm like, I don't know if they packed them

715
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 7: and they're personal wearing them first, I don't want to know,

716
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 7: but they're the underwear were flung well well aimed. Might

717
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 7: I add flung had a teenager and you know, and

718
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 7: we were like we were like twelve, thirteen, fourteen, and

719
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 7: it was just that's what's so crazy is we started

720
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 7: to show when so I was twelve and I'm trying

721
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 7: to think, so that would make I guess Joey thirteen

722
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 7: and I am fourteen, because I think I want to

723
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 7: say we were like a couple of years off from

724
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 7: each other, and uh yeah, so we just we we

725
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 7: literally went from being kids to being teenagers and him

726
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 7: being this teenage heart throb almost overnight, and they would

727
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 7: fling underwear, the condoms were thrown.

728
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, this bizarre, Like I.

729
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 7: Don't even know if I knew what condoms were when

730
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 7: they were That's how like early on it was. And yeah,

731
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 7: it was just bizarre. But also this kind of brilliant

732
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 7: phenomenon that happened where it was like the making of

733
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 7: an idol of a.

734
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: Teenage Yeah, you really got to see them from the

735
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 4: inside of the making of a teen idol, like going

736
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: back television wise, you're talking David Cassidy, Scott Bao. I mean,

737
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: this is like a generational teen icon. Was Joey Lawrence

738
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: in the late eighties early nineties. I mean, he was

739
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: that peak of talent and of popularity. It was.

740
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: It was amazing, and so why should he not do.

741
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 7: A music video where he wraps and rides around like

742
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 7: a you know, a jokal gym thing like that's a

743
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 7: great naturally, that's the.

744
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 9: Next he throws the football to himself. He throws the

745
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 9: football and then catches the same football. It's very impressive,

746
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 9: very impressive.

747
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 7: I feel like you've spent more time watching it than.

748
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: I My stepdaughter from the time she was a little kid.

749
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: Nothing of love can't fix for your baby has been

750
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: her jam. So it's yeah, I mean, but again just

751
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: very impressive to both be the quarterback and the wide

752
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: receiver at the same time.

753
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 7: Totally, totally, and I feel like at the next Super

754
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 7: Bowl we should really like him. Make sure some people

755
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 7: know about that, because that's how it brilliant is.

756
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

757
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: So Blossom was a mid season replacement that ended up

758
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: going one hundred and fourteen episodes.

759
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 6: When did you know it was a hit? And were

760
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 6: you recognized all the time?

761
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 7: So you know something that I don't, which is it

762
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 7: was one hundred and fourteen episodes. For some reason in

763
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 7: my head, I was thinking it was like one hundred

764
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 7: and twenty two or twenty three. But I also confusing

765
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 7: it with the Parkers right now.

766
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 6: Which okay, it's highly possible.

767
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it, I don't know when we knew. I can

768
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 7: tell you that the you know, we did the pilot,

769
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 7: it did not get picked up. I had gone so

770
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 7: when going back a little bit, when I went to LA,

771
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 7: when they flew med to LA from New York, and

772
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 7: I went to Network for Blossom, and they told me

773
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 7: right then and there, they told Joliana that we'd gotten it.

774
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 7: I then did not go to Network for Lenny, which

775
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 7: was immediately following like an hour or two later because

776
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 7: I already had a show, so I had to skip it. Well,

777
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 7: when Blossom didn't get picked up, Don Rio called me

778
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 7: and said, hey, would you like to be on Lenny instead?

779
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 7: And I was like, well sure, I yeah, not an idiot. Yeah,

780
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 7: So I went and did Lenny. We did the pilot.

781
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 7: That show was already picked up, so I was on CBS.

782
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 7: CBS had no idea, They didn't They didn't know that

783
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 7: I was the same girl from Blossom, which is super weird,

784
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 7: but we'll go with it. I had like curly hair

785
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 7: on one show and straight hair on another, and apparently

786
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 7: it was terribly deceiving.

787
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 6: Yeah you had Clark Clinton, Clark Clark Kent classes.

788
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. And then Lenny got halfway through the season

789
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 7: and Blossom got picked up as a mid season replacement.

790
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 7: With this revamp of UH, Ted was being the single

791
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 7: dad as opposed to parents. We had, you know, originally

792
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 7: a mom and a dad, so it's Ted Wass as

793
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 7: a single parent. But they wanted to keep all the kids.

794
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 7: So at that point, you know, Don Rio told NBC, well,

795
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 7: you know, I've got Jenna on this other show, and

796
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 7: they were like, what are you talking about. He was like, well,

797
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 7: we're gonna have to recast six because Jenna is on

798
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 7: my other show on CBS. And they were like, you're kidding.

799
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 7: Oh okay, so they recast the role. Halfway through the

800
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 7: first week, Don calls me in my schoolroom and says, so, listen,

801
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 7: how do you feel about doing two shows at once?

802
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: Yes? Wow, you're such a badass school sudro over it.

803
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 7: I was like, I'm in.

804
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: I get off the phone.

805
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 7: My tutor, my tutor, God bless her, who I'm still

806
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 7: friends with. I don't know if she remembers this or not.

807
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 7: I gotta ask her. But Sandy was like, so, uh,

808
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 7: Don doesn't really call you in your school in the

809
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 7: school much like what's going on. I was like, oh,

810
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do both shows. She was like, and when

811
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 7: are we gonna do school? I was like, I'll figure it.

812
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: Out, school right Networks.

813
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 7: So I did both shows and we did. We filmed

814
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 7: one on Tuesdays and one on Fridays for half a

815
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 7: secon and I went back and forth and I did

816
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 7: both shows. And then at the end of the first year,

817
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 7: Lenny had been on CBS up against Murphy Brown, like

818
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 7: with Murphy Brown, but it was during the goal War,

819
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 7: and it just I mean, we got preempted so many times.

820
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 7: There was way that show could live.

821
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: What was Lenny very briefly, who was who was on

822
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: Lenny based on.

823
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 7: This comedian Lenny Clark? Awesome, awesome, A lot of work.

824
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: Since actually yeah, Lenny Clark, Yeah, Lenny.

825
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 7: And and then Lee Garlington, phenomenal actress played his wife.

826
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 7: There were great, great cast members, I mean just great.

827
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 7: It took place in Boston. He's this Boston comic and

828
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 7: it was like kind of the sort of the initiation

829
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 7: of of comics having television shows.

830
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like the Boston guy too.

831
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: It's Lenny Clark. Yeah, he's Boston.

832
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, he is Boston through and through. Yes. So yeah,

833
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 7: So I did that for half a season and then

834
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 7: it got canceled because of being prempted so many times.

835
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 7: I just couldn't get the numbers up because of that

836
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 7: and and that. But Blossom, but Blossom went and uh

837
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 7: and so then they finally, you know, then they because

838
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 7: at first I had to be a guest star on

839
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 7: Blossom because I was irregular around money. So for like

840
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 7: the first half a season of the first year of Blossom,

841
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 7: I was a guest star I think until they could

842
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 7: could technically legally make you make me a regular. But yeah,

843
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 7: so we did. We did that and and yeah it

844
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 7: was just like this crazy, crazy situation that I can't

845
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 7: imagine happening now, and I yeah, it kind of blows

846
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 7: my mind.

847
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: And six became such an identifiable character? Was it always

848
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean you talked about like wearing the hat at

849
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: the network and stuff, But was it always written like

850
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: as this very identifiable, fast talking, quirky or was that

851
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: kind of did that evolve with you in concert with

852
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: the writing creating the character?

853
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 7: This is called Jena driving too much coffee as a kid?

854
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: True start?

855
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 7: Wait did I answer the full question that you asked

856
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 7: me before? I'm trying to think. I feel like there

857
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 7: there was a tube parter and my the second part.

858
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 6: Of it was did you get recognized all the time?

859
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: Oh?

860
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 7: Well, like when did we know that the show was?

861
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 6: Like did we did you know it was a hit?

862
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 6: And did you get recognized all the time?

863
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 7: I feel like so when the show got picked up

864
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 7: as a mid season replacement for a couple of years,

865
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 7: I don't feel like the first year or so it

866
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 7: was sort of just even keeled. And then I want

867
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 7: to say something weird happened with like Warren Littlefield was

868
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 7: president of NBC at the time, and I think, if

869
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 7: I recall correctly, and I hope I'm not misquoting all

870
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 7: of this, it's obviously been a His daughter was like

871
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 7: obsessed with the show when he was going to cancel it,

872
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 7: and she was like, oh my god, please please don't

873
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 7: do that. Like I think we almost single handedly can

874
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 7: can thank Warren Littlefield's daughter for the show being being

875
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 7: given that that chance UH to continue. And then it

876
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 7: really really took off. And I will say that the moment.

877
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 7: There were like two moments where I was like, oh

878
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 7: my god, I think actually, like maybe people watched this

879
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 7: show and it's a thing. The first was I went

880
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 7: to a Boys to Men concert.

881
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 6: Shocker and I can't wait to talk to you about

882
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 6: music go on and.

883
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 7: And mc hammer was also in concert with them. And

884
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 7: I was in like Peoria, Illinois doing some sort of

885
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 7: like signing or something, and you know, and people started climbing.

886
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 7: I was in like a little box thing and people

887
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 7: started climbing it to get autographs and they had to

888
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 7: carry me. They had actually had and I was like

889
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 7: geezh okay, like this might this might mean people watch

890
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 7: the show. The second one was that they parodied us

891
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 7: on Saturday and Saturday Night.

892
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: It definitely that's it, that's it for us, like.

893
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 7: Like mal Shannon and that was Yeah, I don't know,

894
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 7: maybe it wasn't Molly Shannon. I'm trying to remember who

895
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 7: was in there, but like Mike Myers, definitely Mike Joey.

896
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: Joey, Yeah, I remember saying yeah, but you.

897
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 4: I mean, Blossom is also one of those shows, and

898
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: it might be right at the tail end of it, frankly,

899
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 4: but where the opening title sequence was hugely important to

900
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 4: the show. Yeah, I mean these were you know, back

901
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 4: in the days of Family Ties Cosby Show, the opening

902
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: title sequence was really important.

903
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: It started to go away.

904
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: Seinfeld got rid of it essentially entirely, Boymans World even

905
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: got rid of it entirely. But that I remember distinctly

906
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: people singing the home humming along with the song, seeing

907
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 4: you all come out and dancing. I mean, it really

908
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: was its own character at that time in television where

909
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: that opening title sequences were important. I mean it really

910
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 4: it mattered what your opening title sequence was, and Blossom

911
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: was one of the last ones that was really had

912
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: that signature.

913
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 7: I don't know if I've ever realized that. You know,

914
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 7: the original song was Bobby Brown's Don't Worry I'm blanky prerogative.

915
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: It was a real hy pregative that was like.

916
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 7: The initial theme song. And then I don't know what happened.

917
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 7: I'm sure it was a like a rights issue and

918
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 7: they couldn't it wasn't sustainable, but uh yeah, and then

919
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 7: it became you know, I think it's doctor John is

920
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 7: who sings my opinionation, and then that became like the

921
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 7: the thing, so weird.

922
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: So music is a huge part of your life and

923
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 5: was always a passion of yours.

924
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 6: Where did that come from? And tell us what it's

925
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 6: meant to you over your life?

926
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 7: I mean, music was always I think my dad sings

927
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 7: my you know, I mean my dad sings, but it's like,

928
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 7: you know, church choir. And I grew up listening only

929
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 7: to classical music, and I think my mom listened to

930
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 7: John Denver. That was about the extent of my music knowledge.

931
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 10: Like my mom didn't doesn't like Elvis at all, didn't

932
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 10: like the Beatles, so like I had to teach myself

933
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 10: music and which now this has become a big thing

934
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 10: in my household, Like when I'm cooking dinner, I put

935
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 10: on music from different genres and different eras for my

936
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 10: girls because I really I'm like, okay, who's sing this?

937
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 7: Come on?

938
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, like my daughter.

939
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 7: Exactly. And my daughter has taken to wearing Cyndy Lopper

940
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 7: gloves to school on a daily base mat her outfit.

941
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 7: So I' mean it's fine, It's all good. I don't

942
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 7: know that school's thrilled with me about it, but I'm

943
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 7: but I'm thrilled.

944
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 6: I love happy.

945
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're channeling the eighties over here. But yeah. So

946
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 7: I kind of like taught myself music and it was

947
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 7: always super important to me. I wrote from the time

948
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 7: I was very very little. That was always an outlet

949
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 7: for me in some former fashion, and I think it

950
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 7: started out with music and poetry and things of that nature.

951
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 7: And now I write, you know, film scripts, and I

952
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 7: write for a lifestyle publication in Nashville and all that

953
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 7: kind of stuff. So I've been I've always written, just

954
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 7: in different in different capacities. But because my parents didn't

955
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 7: really raise me to know a broad musical horizon, I

956
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 7: was very excited being on Blossom because we had crazy

957
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 7: cool music guests, everybody from BB King to you know,

958
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 7: little Richard See and See Music Factory. Like the list

959
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 7: just goes on and on and on. I mean, it

960
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 7: was a phenomenal, phenomenal, eye opening musical experience, I think

961
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 7: to be on the show because Don Rio is such

962
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 7: a music fan that he invited as many people as

963
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 7: he could that he loved and respected to the show.

964
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 7: And you know, and we all had really vast and

965
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 7: varied musical Mayam was very much the like violent Femmes

966
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 7: and Elvis Costello and and and you know again, Joey

967
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 7: was very and Joey was the boys to men and

968
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 7: and and you know, and all of that, and so

969
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 7: it was kind of a cool exposure.

970
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 6: That's so great.

971
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've mentioned your daughters a couple of times. Now

972
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 5: you have two daughters, and you've been able to write

973
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 5: about your experience with the situation Mammady books. What would

974
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 5: you say is the most important lesson you've learned in

975
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 5: Mother Grace?

976
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 7: Just Grace capital g R A c E. My kids

977
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 7: are amazing. My older daughter is Gray, she's eleven. Uh.

978
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 7: And then my younger daughter, Marlowe.

979
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: Is nine, and you know her name is Gray.

980
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Her name is gret.

981
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 7: I was like, wow, no, no, I mean they make

982
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 7: me go gray by wearing the ball. Now they're and

983
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 7: they're amazing, They're they're so awesome, Like it's just it's

984
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 7: really cool to parenting is really cool. Like adulting sucks ass,

985
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 7: but parenting is really cool. And I think some they're

986
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 7: you know, they're so Yeah. Gray's in middle school and

987
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 7: she's my introspective, avid reader. She's kind of me at

988
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 7: her age. She very much wants to people please, and

989
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 7: she's like she wants everybody to know she's trying her best,

990
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 7: and she's kicking butt in school and she's like in

991
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 7: the gifted program and she's you know, I mean, she's

992
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 7: freaking brilliant and she's super intuitive. If she understands things

993
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 7: that it's just not even right. It's not fair and

994
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 7: not right because because there are just conversations we shouldn't have,

995
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 7: but we do and they're awesome. And I pour myself

996
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 7: a bourbon and we sit down and we chat. But

997
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 7: and then Marlowe is like my little spitfirefirecracker. She's kind

998
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 7: of me once I realized that I had a voice,

999
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 7: And I'm super impressed that she at nine years old

1000
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 7: already knows that she has one's Wow, it's pretty pretty cool.

1001
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 5: So if your girls came to you and said they

1002
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 5: wanted to get into acting, what do you think you

1003
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 5: would say?

1004
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 7: Well, they have, which is crazy. I think this is

1005
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 7: probably the first interview I've done since I haven't done

1006
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 7: one in a while where question has been asked, and

1007
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 7: like in the past, you know, I was always like, wow,

1008
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 7: if they're really serious about it, obviously you know this.

1009
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 7: This industry comes with its pitfalls, and it's I mean,

1010
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 7: there were so many highs and lows on a daily

1011
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 7: basis really with this industry. And but having experienced as

1012
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 7: much as we all have, particularly during a time when

1013
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 7: I think that we understand work ethic and and sort

1014
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 7: of like the sort of old school industry the way

1015
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 7: that we do, which I have a lot of appreciation

1016
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 7: for old school industry, I feel like I could coach

1017
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 7: them through it in a way that would you know,

1018
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 7: my parents were so green, they just didn't know about

1019
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 7: any of it, And having the background that we have

1020
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 7: makes it a little bit easier. At the same time,

1021
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 7: having the background makes me sit back and go, you

1022
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 7: better really want it, kid. Yeah, So yeah, I you know,

1023
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 7: they just need to really want. I want to know

1024
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 7: it's coming from them. It's not a hey, you did it,

1025
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 7: so I'm curious about it being this is awesome. You

1026
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 7: should be curious about everything. Please be curious, be curious

1027
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 7: about it all. But to actually pursue this industry, I

1028
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 7: need to know that you want it for you. This

1029
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 7: is your passion, not your passion because it was my

1030
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 7: passion or is my passion. Yeah, and you know, both

1031
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 7: of my kids have expressed high, high level interest in it,

1032
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 7: but they're both really young and I so I also

1033
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 7: understand that we live in a world where social media

1034
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 7: has produced very you know, people with a lot of

1035
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 7: notoriety that haven't necessarily used talent to get there. That's like,

1036
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 7: you know, I'm just trying to be fair about this

1037
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 7: whole thing. Like social media isn't a necessarily always based

1038
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 7: on talent. Now that's not to say it isn't based

1039
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 7: on business savvy, totally different thing. But to actually be

1040
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 7: an actress, like I want to know that you have

1041
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 7: talent and want.

1042
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: This is like what you actually has to be about

1043
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: the art or expression, yeah, not not personal desire to

1044
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: do it.

1045
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 7: Yourself too, right, not that like Taylor Swift is famous,

1046
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 7: ergo I should be famous, right, Like, this is not

1047
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 7: you know, that's not what I'm working. I'm not going

1048
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 7: to work with that. So so I'm really I'm careful.

1049
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 7: I'm mindful about thoughtful all about their about their pursuits,

1050
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 7: because I just want to make sure it really truly

1051
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 7: is coming from the right place and coming from their

1052
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 7: art and and and nothing else.

1053
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 6: Have they watched Blossom? Do they know how cool you were?

1054
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 7: And are? Well? I don't know about cool, because I'm

1055
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 7: pretty sure if you ask both of my children they'd

1056
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 7: be like, oh, have you seen our mind dance? I'm

1057
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 7: I want to say they've seen an episode of Blossom.

1058
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 7: I believe I showed them an episode of Blossom a

1059
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 7: couple of years ago because they were what they were

1060
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 7: asking about it, and I wanted them, you know, I'm

1061
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 7: proud of it, like I am really proud of it,

1062
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 7: and I want them to have context. At the same time,

1063
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 7: I don't want them to feel any sense of weird

1064
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 7: entitlement by that, or like confusion that somehow I don't know,

1065
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 7: that's just not really a part of our lives at

1066
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 7: this particular juncture, you know, And I want them to

1067
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 7: feel my sense of pride and understand my work ethic

1068
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 7: without thinking that it's cool that I.

1069
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: Was on the show.

1070
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: Right, right, do you still get recognized?

1071
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1072
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. How long have you been in You're in Nashville, right,

1073
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: how long have you been there?

1074
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 7: Here's what's crazy. So come April, I'll be here seventeen years. Wow,

1075
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 7: And I was early and I was in La seventeen years.

1076
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 7: So this bizarre thing for me is is hitting this

1077
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 7: moment where I'm like, oh, wow, I've actually been in

1078
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 7: both places.

1079
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: Just as long.

1080
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, for an equal amnt of time.

1081
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 6: So cool, so weird.

1082
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 5: So looking back now almost thirty five years, so's awesome, debuted,

1083
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 5: I hear nothing. What I know looking at young Jenna's

1084
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 5: work dating young Wilfredell at the time. Yeah, how do

1085
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 5: you feel about young Jenna and what message would you

1086
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 5: like to give to her today?

1087
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, it's I mean, it's kind of the same

1088
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 7: message that I give myself and my kids now about

1089
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 7: about having grace. I think you know, I knew exactly

1090
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 7: what I was getting into at that time, in the

1091
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 7: sense that it was my passion. I wanted so badly

1092
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 7: to continue working. I was the one who begged my

1093
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 7: parents to be an actress. I you know, wasn't their idea,

1094
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 7: it was mine, and I continued to have one passion

1095
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 7: for it. I still do. You know, being in Nashville

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Speaker 7: doesn't change the fact that I absolutely love being on camera.

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Speaker 7: I love memorizing lines. I love writing scripts, I love

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Speaker 7: reading scripts. I love sitting with the cast at the

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Speaker 7: first read.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 7: I love all of it. I love all of it,

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Speaker 7: every every last.

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Speaker 2: Bit of it.

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Speaker 7: But I think the biggest thing for me would just be,

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Speaker 7: you know, we all go through our own evolution with

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Speaker 7: self awareness, and I had a really hard time, I think.

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Speaker 7: I you know, we were on shows during a time

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Speaker 7: when someone like Tracy Gold was getting called fat, yeah,

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Speaker 7: and it was drastically affecting her view of herself, and

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Speaker 7: it caused her to in a big way and caused

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Speaker 7: her to have an eating disorder, you know. And I

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Speaker 7: think we probably, all, in our own ways, Carrie with us,

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Speaker 7: certain elements of that time of feeling like really we

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Speaker 7: could like you know, now everybody's far more careful about

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Speaker 7: what they joke about. To be fair, you know, everybody's

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Speaker 7: really aware of mental health, particularly following COVID. You know,

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Speaker 7: and we were on shows during a time where they

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Speaker 7: made a lot of fun of things because they they could,

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Speaker 7: and it wasn't nobody was saying, hey, maybe that's maybe

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Speaker 7: that's harming this person in the long run.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to think that what I would tell myself

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Speaker 7: is to just sort of take it with a grain

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Speaker 7: of salt. And I probably wouldn't believe it if I

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Speaker 7: heard it. I probably heard it from somebody then and

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Speaker 7: didn't you know, as we all have to go through

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Speaker 7: our own experiences with it. And I'm very much a

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Speaker 7: visual person, so I'm not shocked that I had to

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Speaker 7: be hands on in all of it to really appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: But I'd like to think that having self awareness and

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Speaker 7: evolving and adulting, man, I feel like it has helped me,

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Speaker 7: has helped me outgrow some of those some of those

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Speaker 7: difficulties with self confidence, you know, which is also again

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Speaker 7: why I go back to it's so interesting to hear

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Speaker 7: you say writer that I've seemed so so confident, because

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Speaker 7: I felt so far from confident during that time. And ironically,

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Speaker 7: I want to say that because I did my MS

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Speaker 7: podcast at one point and I want to say she

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Speaker 7: said something similar to me, and like, I just there

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Speaker 7: is nothing that I never ever felt confident. I still

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Speaker 7: wake up in the morning and drink my cup of

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Speaker 7: coffee and I'm like, do I feel confident today?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: We'll see how it goes, Like you know, so, it's

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Speaker 7: so interesting to hear other people's perspectives relatively kind of

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Speaker 7: shining a shining a light on your own opinions on it.

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Speaker 5: But well, Jenna, you were one of the coolest people

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Speaker 5: we knew back then, and you're still one of the

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Speaker 5: coolest people we know today. And we are honored that

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Speaker 5: you spend your time with us this morning. It's so

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Speaker 5: good to reconnect with you. Please let us know the

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Speaker 5: next time you're in La we would absolutely love to

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Speaker 5: do that dinner.

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Speaker 7: Still existed, which I'm assuming it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: There's one well ren Selica's.

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Speaker 4: Restaurant and look at each other while not eating salad,

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Speaker 4: and Jenna and I will record it on a tape

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Speaker 4: recorder for teen b and I'll bring my mom, who

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Speaker 4: will take a photo shoot for us.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 7: I think we've got it. We've hit the nail on

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Speaker 7: the head here.

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Speaker 4: We've got to find that tape Jenna, We've got to

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Speaker 4: find that tape of the original first date.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, I wonder if I probably turned it

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Speaker 7: into team Beat. It's either you know, burned somewhere, or

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Speaker 7: it's in like some scary archive in some mic.

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Speaker 2: It's on microfish somewhere.

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Speaker 7: I mean, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: This was Awesomeank you so good to see you, big, big,

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Speaker 5: big hug. Can't wait to give it to you in person.

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Speaker 5: You jugs same here, all right, bye bye. It's so

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Speaker 5: interesting how many women we speak to who all have

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Speaker 5: you know, the same the same stories. And it's not

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Speaker 5: just women. Of course, men in the industry also have

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Speaker 5: their own, you know, feelings of insecurity and whatever. But really,

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Speaker 5: you know, almost every woman we talk to has some

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Speaker 5: story about feeling not beautiful or you know, worried about

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Speaker 5: whether or not they were overweight. And you know, they're

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Speaker 5: always the people that were like, wait, what like are

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Speaker 5: It's just you know, you aren't a good judge of yourself.

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Speaker 1: We are, certainly in terms of the looks, but even

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Speaker 1: even in terms of like it's so funny that she

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Speaker 1: didn't even think of herself as like put together.

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Speaker 6: Or are confident when like she was the all the most.

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Speaker 1: Confident, funny like knew everything about like I just you know,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's you know, it just goes to show

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Speaker 1: that like no matter what stage you're in, whether you're

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Speaker 1: a teenager acting on a TV show or a forty

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Speaker 1: four year old sad dad, to get out of your

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Speaker 1: own way, like don't worry about it, like just be

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Speaker 1: just be focused on you know, your goals and the

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Speaker 1: thing you want to be and be in the print

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Speaker 1: and just just worry about that. Like if you if

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Speaker 1: you worry too much about who you are, what you

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Speaker 1: look like, what you sound like, or what people's perception

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Speaker 1: of you, it's it's never good. Like it doesn't it

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Speaker 1: doesn't help any like because you actually will never know,

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Speaker 1: you know, like you could be going through the worst

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Speaker 1: time I said than done.

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Speaker 4: Though everybody says to themselves like I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: care and people think about me, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: care how I look, and it's almost impossible to do.

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Speaker 2: Everybody seems to care about all that stuff all the time.

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Speaker 4: And so it's the older you're getting older, I'm getting

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to let that stuff go, but it's hard.

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, you know, it's different now, than it was

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Speaker 4: when I was fifteen sixteen, but it's still always there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, when you're that age too, it's really hard

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Speaker 5: for you to understand that you're actually not the center

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Speaker 5: of the universe.

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Speaker 6: Right, Fundamentally, you're supposed to.

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Speaker 5: Think you're the center of the universe at that time,

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Speaker 5: and yet trying to tell yourself no one else is

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Speaker 5: thinking this as much as you are.

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Speaker 6: Is impossible that Well, if you're on.

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Speaker 1: A TV show, you actually are kind of the center.

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Speaker 6: You're the center of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's so weird, right, Like when you're

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Speaker 1: an adolescent and you still do think the world revolves

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Speaker 1: around like we're social life, and then like your friends,

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Speaker 1: the people you work with are also being recognized everywhere

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Speaker 1: you go. It's a weird thing. Like it's a very

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Speaker 1: it's distorting. It was always a distorting mirror.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you for joining us for this episode of

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Speaker 5: Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on

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Speaker 1: Jenna Selica is White March.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe you were right about all that. I'm

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Speaker 6: never wrong. How did this happen?

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Speaker 3: Writer?

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Speaker 6: Send us out?

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