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Speaker 1: and Boyd, great feeling with you. I think we make

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Speaker 1: That is very, very thoughtful. I think the first thing

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Speaker 1: and more importantly your thoughts on what happened. Well, as

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Speaker 1: So I just couldn't get there, and I didn't. As

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Speaker 1: we'd be having this talk today. All right, good enough explanation.

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Speaker 1: Now our number one storyline from the game is just

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Speaker 1: I've had the benefit of the tape, looking at the tape,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, we never got traction. And I mean that literally,

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Speaker 1: our cleats. We had troubled digging in, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Now you say that's a try, that's an excuse, No

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Speaker 1: we did not stop them, and we did not stop

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Speaker 1: the run. That limited our times that we had eight possessions.

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Speaker 1: I know, I sounded like the coach. We had eight possessions.

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Speaker 1: I was playing, you know, Jerry, I want to get

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Speaker 1: your reaction to the run on fourth and one that

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Speaker 1: He's very involved in that process of getting those coaches

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Speaker 1: Jerry two thousand and seven, twenty fourteen, sixteen eighteen. Unable

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