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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Forts You've Got Bill podcast, presented

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Speaker 1: by Nandscape. I'm really excited to be joined by former

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? How is uh quarantine and COVID

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Speaker 1: doing while you're handling your job calling these games? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely changed the landscape of broadcasting, just like

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Speaker 1: it's changed everything else in our in our world. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's changed our routine. You know, I'm so used

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Speaker 1: to Uh Normally, as a broadcaster, you go into the

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Speaker 1: home city on Friday, you go to the building in

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Speaker 1: and players. You basically spend most of the day there

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Speaker 1: with them, and and now everything's on zoom. I'm uh,

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Speaker 1: you know I won't travel until later on Friday. Um,

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Speaker 1: we have to get there in time to get a

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Speaker 1: COVID test. We have to get we have to get

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Speaker 1: tested every Friday at the hotel. L Um, they have

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Speaker 1: And then and then Saturday, we're basically quarantined to our

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Speaker 1: None of that, None of that happens anymore. So everything's

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Speaker 1: done by zoom and UH. And then you go to

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Speaker 1: the game and and you know, it's it's different broadcasting

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Speaker 1: the game without fans that you know, the fans in

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Speaker 1: the stand stands make the experience. I tell people all

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Speaker 1: the time pre covid, if you ever get a chance

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Speaker 1: to to watch an NFL game live, UH, it's just

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Speaker 1: a really cool experience. And UH, we try and do

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Speaker 1: the best that we can with the broadcast part of it.

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Speaker 1: And obviously I've been in TV and broadcasting for a

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Speaker 1: can make um from that from that standpoint, but I

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Speaker 1: think just the game day experience, which we try and

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Speaker 1: unique and and hopefully we get back to that soon.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to get back to some type of normalcy.

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Speaker 1: But you brought up fans and fans being in the stadium,

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Speaker 1: fans being in the building. I think this Sunday will

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Speaker 1: be the first time the forty Niners outside of their

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Speaker 1: game in New Orleans. But they have forty fans in

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Speaker 1: just to kind of hear some kind of crowd and

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Speaker 1: have some kind of interaction. But let's let's talk about

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Speaker 1: this game. Before the season, this was an anticipated interdivisional

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Speaker 1: rivalry between two promising teams. Now injuries have ravished both

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Speaker 1: rosters in a number of key positions. This rivalry dates

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Speaker 1: back to the seventies, then it renewed in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Jerry Rice, Dion Sanders, Troy Aikman days.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of now this matchup that it's

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Speaker 1: not what we saw or what we thought it would be,

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Speaker 1: let's say, back in August, but here we are. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's this is two teams that have dealt with very

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Speaker 1: similar seasons. They dealt with a lot of injuries. Both

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Speaker 1: their starting quarterbacks are hurt. A number of key players

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Speaker 1: on both sides are hurt. Uh. They haven't quite had

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Speaker 1: the season from a record standpoint that they thought they

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Speaker 1: and it just hasn't worked out that way. It's it's

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Speaker 1: been an unusual year. For a lot of teams because

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Speaker 1: of COVID and the protocols that you have to go through. Um,

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Speaker 1: these two teams are no different. It's it's just an

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Speaker 1: it difficult. Um. Going back from a historical standpoint, though,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you this this rivalry and this this background. Um,

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Speaker 1: the ninety three season. And really, if you think of

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Speaker 1: I know. Kevin Harland, my partner in the booth, is

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Speaker 1: is looking forward to calling it and uh, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring up some of those old stories because this rivalry

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Speaker 1: is very deep rooted and and a lot of great

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Speaker 1: talent and Hall of Famers on both sides. This podcast

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Speaker 1: Man hall of Famer's galore and deep rooted is the

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Speaker 1: perfect way to describe this rivalry. But for those that

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Speaker 1: are listening, believe it or not, Uh, Trent, And it

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Speaker 1: still blows my mind when I think about this. If

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaking, all six team NFC teams are somehow

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I was wrong in saying they're both out

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Speaker 1: So I know they're disappointed with how it's unfolded. But

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Speaker 1: but yes, there's there is still a chance it might

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Speaker 1: be grim. But many fans, especially for Menners fans, they've

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Speaker 1: already set their attention to the draft. But let's look

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Speaker 1: but in week fifteen, looking to end their own moving streak. Trent,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you stopping by You've Got Mail podcast. We

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Speaker 1: can't wait to hear you uh calling this game and

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Speaker 1: also hearing those stories that you were talking about. We

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Speaker 1: can't wait to hear about some of these NFL legends.

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Speaker 1: That'd be great. I've enjoyed it, and safe travels. I

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