1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: This is a young team. We're on the cuff. They're 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: hungry to get better. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Peers lightning right, spend quarrels this way down on the 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: forty one yard line. 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Want to run by peers. 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: These are the type of guys, the type of men 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: that we want in our locker room. 8 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Send her sap that question, Harris. 9 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 4: Game day is every day. 10 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Love the Energy Whip by Stateley Portray. 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: Texans have the ball on the pit. 12 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 4: And if you want it, you gotta go work it now. 13 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 4: It's Texans all xas. 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: All right, Hello Texans. 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: We are live at NRG Stadium, the Hundai Texans Radio Studio, 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: Mark Vandermir and John Harris with you. 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: And you saw my Twitter video maybe maybe you didn't. 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: We have probably more listeners than I have, people who 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: watched that little Twitter video of me walking through the 20 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: stadium and getting pumped for tonight's show, because I always 21 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: get pumped walking through the stadium. And right now we 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: are facing several weeks without players in the building, although 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: they'll be here in and out whatever, but without formal 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: practices or anything like that, all the way up until 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: training camp. And I'm fired up already. I gotta calm down. 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: And the General's going to help me do it a 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: little bit, but also get us fired up at the 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: same time, somehow, some way. John McLean joins us on 29 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: a Thursday as usual, General, Good evening. I retweeted your 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: Utopia podcast, by the way, and looking forward to the 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: visit tonight. What do you think of mini camp? Any 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: big takeaways from you? 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 5: Thank you for retweeting are Utopia Football podcast. Now if 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 5: you retweet the column my road on sports Radio six ' 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 5: ten dot com in which I give CJ. Stroud and 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 5: Will Anderson a in their off season programs, It's going 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 5: to be the last time I'm that lenient when it 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: comes to my grades. I'm working on one right now 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 5: about the offensive line, and now a guy did nobody's 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: paid any attention to. I think it's going to make 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: this team. Michael Dieter, who signed was third round pick 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: of the Dolphins twenty nineteen start as center, has been 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 5: working first team left guard in place of Kenyan Green. 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 5: Also got some work at tackle. He's a center, he 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: can play any position. Seeing him out there with the 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 5: first team made me think they like him. You know, 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: we got a long way to go before they make 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 5: the roster they're going some tough cuts in the offensive line. 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 5: We know at some point Jude Scruggs is going to 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: be the starting center. You don't trade into the second 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: round for a player who's not going to start unless 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 5: he's really bad. And then Jared Patterson who also can 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 5: play center guard. You know how those coaches love versatility. 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: You know right now the starting centers Quiz Barry and 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: he may not even make the team. So the offensive 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 5: line is so important. It's great sining Laramie Tunks all 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 5: out there. For the first time, I watched C. J. 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 5: Stroud picking his brain on the sideline. I thought that 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 5: was good because Stroud likes to get as much knowledge 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: as he can get from offense, defense, coaches, players on 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: both sides of the ball, and that is very encouraging. 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: Jenna, what's your biggest concern going to training camp for 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: this team on other side of the ball's best teams, whatever, 64 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: what's your biggest concern going into training camp? And at 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: that point you think there's an answer that they can 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: find going through training camps. 67 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, John, nothing is more important than 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 5: the offensive line. You know, they've had four coaches in 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: four years. That's ridiculous having that kind of instability. You 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: hope Chris Strasser is going to be there to stay, 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: but there's still going to be questions. You know, Kenyon 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: Green's hurt. Will he miss camp, will he miss preseason? 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 5: Will he be ready to go? You know, he's got 74 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 5: live improving to do since being a number one pick 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: last year. They got questions at center. Shaq Mason, a 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: really good run blocker, is not is coming off maybe 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 5: his worst season, but he's still better than what the 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 5: Texans said. Titus Howard's hungry for a new deal. I 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: think Howard and Tunsel there. I'm not gonna say their 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: top five, but I think they're one of the top 81 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 5: tackle duos in the NFL. And they still don't have 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: a big play receiver. They got backs. Nick Casario can't 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: do everything in one off season. I can't wait to 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 5: see Christian Harris. Since he came in last year and 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 5: had injury issues, he's been healthy. Derek Stingly is healthy. 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: John Matchee the third, I think you'd be very unfair. 87 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: I was talking to a doctor about what it's like 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: when you have to undergo treatment for leukemia and how 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 5: much you lose physically and he's got to build that 90 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 5: back up and he's done it, and at some point 91 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 5: we're going to see why they traded to get into 92 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 5: the second round to get him. And I can't wait 93 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 5: to see what tankdal does. So there's a lot of 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 5: guys in their first or second season that I'm really 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 5: excited to see. But offensive line, because it's been a 96 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 5: question for so long, and it controls so much the 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 5: running game, controls the ball, it keeps the defense pressing 98 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 5: on the bench at the run. The offensive line, to me, 99 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: other than quarterback, of course, is the most important position 100 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 5: group this team has that has to be very good, 101 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 5: and they have the chance to be very good. 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Well, John, let's talk about the pass catchers a little 103 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: bit here, because we saw guys making plays out there, 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: like Dalton Schultz looking very good as he comes back 105 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: from wherever he was coming back from. And Nico Collins, 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: what a huge year it is for him because he 107 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: looks so good out there. Got to stay healthy, I 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: mean that's the always often used anyway disclaimer when we're 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: talking about Nico Collins. Your thoughts on the past catchers, 110 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: when you include the tight end group and what you 111 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: have out there as assets. 112 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: We know what Dalton Schultz is capable of doing. He's 113 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 5: on a one year contract. He's going to be hungry. 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 5: I love guys on one year contracts. I believe that 115 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: a guy who could be a big surprise Ta Inquatriano. 116 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: He flashed last year. He's big, he stands out when 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 5: you see him walking around. He can move. He's not 118 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: going to start, but he's a good red zone target. 119 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 5: He might get to play in two tight end formations. 120 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 5: Brevin George's not a real tight end, but you can 121 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 5: tell he's put on some weight and some muscle. And 122 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 5: Nico Collins. We gushed about him last year in all 123 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 5: season program, we gushed about him in preseason and training 124 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 5: camp because he looks so good. Then he got hurt again. 125 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: So I'm going to temper my enthusiasm for him when 126 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 5: I see him and then see if he can stay 127 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 5: healthy because it would mean so much. I expect Robert Woods, 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 5: in his second year back from a torn acl to 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 5: look like he did when he played with the Rams. 130 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: Now you know he had Matthew Stafford throwing in a 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 5: ball of chair golf. Two first overall picks. Stroud was 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: the second overall pick, but we know Stroud's gonna have 133 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 5: growing pains and he's going to struggle at times. But 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: if Collins could stay healthy, the target that he is, 135 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 5: with the size he brains and the acrobatic catches. It's 136 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 5: his third year, you know, he's got a chance to 137 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 5: make money. You know, those guys like Jonathan Grenard two 138 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: years ago he had eight sicks. He's injured a lot. 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: Last year injured a lot. He's a good defensive ent, 140 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 5: a good pass rusher. He's in a contract year. I 141 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 5: expect they're going to get the best out of him. 142 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 5: So I love seeing these guys are playing when they 143 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: got a chance to make some money. When you usually 144 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 5: get the best out of him, and if you don't, 145 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 5: you know you shouldn't want him when they have that 146 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: kind of motivation. So Nico would be huge if he 147 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: could stay healthy. 148 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: Speaking of staying healthy in general, what's the impact of 149 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: a healthy Derek Stingley on this defense. 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 5: He watched him on the first day of the mini 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: camp running down the right sideline on a long pass 152 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 5: thrown I think by case Keenum and I can't remember 153 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 5: who the center was. I was standing right in front 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: of him, and you know they both went up and 155 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: they brushed each other and Stingley reached up at the 156 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: last minute and tipped it away. And I'm thinking that's 157 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 5: why he was drafted. You don't draft a guy third 158 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: overall to put him in zone coverage. Brooks Comana had 159 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 5: a thing this week in the Chronicle about he played 160 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: zone sixty six percent of the time. Now that's Lovey 161 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 5: Smith's defense, but still, if you're going to do that, 162 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: you don't need to use a third overall pick on 163 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: a corner back to play in zone. So I think 164 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,359 Speaker 5: now with Dimiko Ryans and Matt Burke the new defensive coordinator, 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: we're going to see him drafted for what he was 166 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 5: drafted to do, which is cover receivers all over the 167 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 5: field like Sauiz Gardner did last year with the Jets. 168 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 5: And I expect guys going into their second year, Petrie 169 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 5: to be even better and Stingley. Stingley wasn't good, he 170 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 5: was hurt too much. Petrie was good. I expect Petrie 171 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 5: to be better than good and Stingley to show why 172 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 5: he was so highly rated and drafted as high as 173 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: he was. You know, having those two guys's cornerstones of 174 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: the secondary is huge for this defense, and I can't 175 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 5: wait to watch Stingley covering receivers all over the field. 176 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: Men, John, what do you make of the operation out 177 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: there with the coaching staff. It's not like these are 178 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: inexperienced coaches, but Demiko Ryan's first year head coach, Bobby Slowyck, 179 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: first year offensive coordinator. The way things are run out there, 180 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: it's clear and energetic and proficient. New era is under way. 181 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts as you observe the way they 182 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: do business on the field. 183 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 5: I know you guys get the same thing I do. 184 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: Everywhere you go. People are so excited about the Texans. Now. 185 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 5: I had a guy tell me that at lunch today. 186 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 5: I went to Caroline went to see the Astros last night. 187 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 5: I had three or four people tell me that I 188 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: didn't know who they were. They want to stop and talk. Hey, 189 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 5: I'm pumped about the Texans. Are you as excited about 190 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: the Texans as I am? And that was at an 191 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 5: Astros gamp and so I get that everywhere, and that's 192 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: why the players are fired up. The team's fired up. 193 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 5: You know, we're not going to have a thing at 194 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 5: training camp where we got to stand down in the 195 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: corner and try to do our jobs on the ground 196 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 5: level where they won't let us move around. I'm talking 197 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 5: about the media. I asked O'Brien once, could you coach 198 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: if you had to do your job standing in the 199 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 5: corner And he goes, well, of course not. Why do 200 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: you ask? I said, why do you expect us to 201 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: do our jobs there? He said, well, what do you 202 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: want to do? And I told it be able to 203 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 5: move from indo end and side to side. He said, okay, well, 204 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 5: Dimico's open that up where we can actually see again. 205 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 5: I don't think we're going to have the big scoreboard 206 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 5: move right in blocking the media's view and the six ' 207 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 5: ten view like somebody did last year. And I think 208 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 5: all those things that happened last year with the media 209 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: and the year before, we're not going to have that. 210 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 5: Just people are more excited, you know. Every day Calan 211 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: and and McNair come over and talk to the media. 212 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: They're pumped. It was great to see Janni's McNair out 213 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: there today. They let me actually come behind the ropes, 214 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: which i'd never been and go under the tent and 215 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: talk to Janice. And I've known Janie. The first time 216 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 5: I met her was when I did my first interview 217 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 5: with Bob McNair that would have been in right after 218 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 5: the Oilers left after the ninety six season, would have 219 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: been in ninety seven, And she's one of the finest 220 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 5: people I've ever met, and she's so sharp, and she 221 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: told me how fired up she was about the team 222 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: and all the moves they'd made, and it was just 223 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: great scener out there, and everybody's pumped. And so some 224 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 5: people say, like, well, the people get so fired up 225 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: and we don't win as many games, are going to 226 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 5: be disappointed. No, people are realistic. They know you got 227 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback. He's gonna struggle, he's gonna have growing pains. 228 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 5: They know you don't have a big play wide receiver. 229 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 5: They know you need another pass rusher, and you got 230 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 5: a lot of young players. People here are smart football fans. 231 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 5: They're just so happy that every move the McNair's have made, 232 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 5: going back to getting rid of Easter Bee last season, 233 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 5: every move they've made has been great and people know 234 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 5: it and they're pumped about it. 235 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: General. 236 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: One of the moves that Nick SiO did make this 237 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: offseason was to go get Devin Singletary and add him 238 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: to Damian Pierce. It's been a while since we've had 239 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: a one to two combination like this. 240 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to nineteen. 241 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: They kind of are kind of found Carlos Hide on 242 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: the trash heap basically, and you know, they obviously traded. 243 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: A third rounder for Duke Johnson. 244 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: I don't even know if those two hold a Canada 245 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: what the Texans have right now with Damian Pierce and 246 00:12:59,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: Devin Single. 247 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: But Singletary in. 248 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: Particular general, what do you think he brings to this 249 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: offense that they haven't had in a while, And how 250 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: does he compliment Damian Pierce. 251 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 5: This could be their best duo and this one I'm 252 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 5: going to tell you it didn't last long, but when 253 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: it did, they were good. Arion Foster and Ben Tate. 254 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: Ben was the second round pick drafted to be the starter, 255 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 5: and then Arian just exploded when he got his opportunity. 256 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: You know, you can't have Damian Pierce with his style. 257 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: Expect him to be healthy for seventeen games, Expect him 258 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: to touch the ball eighty percent of the time. Singletary 259 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 5: is a good runner. He's a really good receiver. You know, 260 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 5: he led the bills and rushing for three years. He 261 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 5: caught at least thirty five passes every year. He started 262 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 5: half the games his rookie year, all the games of 263 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 5: the last threes played big games. And somebody asked him 264 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 5: about the heat. He say, I'm from South Florida. I 265 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: grew up there. You know, he loves it. I think 266 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: that that Singletary will be the receiver, Piers will be 267 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 5: the runner, but they will throw Pierce the ball. But 268 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 5: I would think it's gonna be more of a sixty 269 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: forty split because of how important Pierce is to the offense. 270 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 5: And as you guys know, there's nothing to be befriend 271 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 5: a quarterback, to be a quarterback's best friend, like a 272 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: productive running game that takes pressure off of him in 273 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: the passing game, keeps the defense fresh. And I think 274 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 5: having those two backs is going to help. And you know, 275 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 5: Pierce gets hurt, which he's destined to, and maybe Singletary does. 276 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 5: But then they got to have a third back step 277 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: up behind Singletary, and they got some talent and they 278 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: got some depth. I think Caserio did a really good 279 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: job in the backfield because last year, you know, I 280 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 5: think rex Burke had be a really good coach somewhere. 281 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 5: But the way they used him last year was just preposterous, 282 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: and that's why they he had the worst offense I've 283 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 5: seen in this city since the early seventies. 284 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Oilers, all right, this one's for both of you. 285 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: And we saw a two minute situation the other day 286 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: where Stroud ran for a first down and then they 287 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: either spikeder at a time out right there. 288 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: But it was a good little run, good little run. 289 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: And look, you're not going to dazzle with runs during 290 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: Mini camp OTA's, but it was strategically a good run. 291 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: Nobody open had to get a first down and keep 292 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: things going. Not very long, but I want to ask 293 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: both of you three hundred and fifty rushing yards over 294 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: or under for CJ. Stroud if he starts most of 295 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: the games over one under. 296 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 5: One of the things about Stroud there was a lot 297 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: of idiots out there because I read I read everything 298 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 5: going in the draft that hold it against him that 299 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: he didn't run more. He ran for seventy something yards 300 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 5: against Northwestern, he ran double figures against Georgia. He can run. 301 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 5: He's not a runner, he's a quarterback. And he had 302 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 5: great receivers and he said, my receivers were running over, 303 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have done them justice. I heard the end 304 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: of it if I hadn't thrown them the ball. Nobody 305 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 5: wanted to see CJ. Stroud run at Ohio State. Now 306 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: he's a rookie, he's got the offense, has got a 307 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: lot to prove, an offensive line at wide receiver. It 308 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: tied end. So I think he's going to run more 309 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: and he can run all those people. I just I 310 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: don't understand that people holding it against him that he 311 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: didn't run more. And so I'm going to say, let's 312 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: see seventeen games. I'm gonna say over. 313 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a safe bet. Johnny. 314 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: I'll go under, you'll go under. I'll go under, but 315 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: not much. I mean I felt the number as you 316 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: put it out there. I felt the number for him 317 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: is between three hundred and three and fifty. 318 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: To hear Watson's rushing numbers, well, here was the quick. 319 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: Math on Watson. 320 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: Always it felt like it was thirty five to forty 321 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: yards every game, and that if you do for seventeen games, 322 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: you're talking about six six fifty. I don't know that 323 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: CJ will do quite that, but here's what's gonna happen. 324 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: A lot like Joe Burrow. Look up Joe Burrow's numbers 325 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: real fast, I will, but look at. 326 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: Joe burd Watson's high watermark, by the way, five point 327 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: fifty one and twenty eighteen. 328 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: All right. 329 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: The rest were a four thirteen and twenty nineteen winning season, 330 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: playoff season, four forty four and twenty twenty. They didn't 331 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: go anywhere, but he led the league in passing. Let 332 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: me look up Joe Burrow. I think I think it's 333 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: an over for CJ. 334 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: Stroud. 335 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: And it is funny how in this day and age 336 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: you have to say I can run. 337 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: You have to defend your ability to. 338 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: Run, whereas before, years ago, it was looked at as 339 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: a negative a lit The good thing in NFL football 340 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: is a sack goes against your passing numbers, your overall 341 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: passing numbers, or your team passing numbers, whereas it goes 342 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: against you in college when you were I do think 343 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: that CJ. 344 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: Will pick and choose his spots when to run, and 345 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: there will be plenty of those. 346 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: Burrow last year two fifty seven, thank you, and that 347 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: not much of the years before that. 348 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 5: Why would those three receivers, Why in the world would 349 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: he ever think about running. 350 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: That'd be stupid. 351 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: Watson always thought. Watson always wanted to run. He considered 352 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 5: himself a great runner. When the coverage would breakdown, he 353 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 5: was taken off. I think Stradd will be better in 354 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 5: the pocket and he will run kind of like Patrick 355 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 5: Mahomes when he season opening, because Mahomes is a great runner. 356 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 5: He just done run a lot, and I think Strad's 357 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: going to be that way because he definitely can run. 358 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: I think I think the number is somewhere between three 359 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 3: hundred and three fifties. 360 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: So that's why I said under. 361 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: I think it's I think there's going to be a 362 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: game where he has a big scramble on a third 363 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: and fourteen and he's going to pick that up. 364 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: And he may do that a couple. 365 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: Times this year, and he may run more in this 366 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: rookie year, and then what a number one receiver emerges, 367 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 3: then you never know, he may he may back off 368 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: of that a little bit because like you said, Deshaun's 369 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: highwater mark was twenty eighteen, right, Well, he was sacked 370 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: sixty two times that year. 371 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: He knew he had to run, but then the number 372 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: went down and down. 373 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: His offensive line did improve minutely over the next couple 374 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: of years, but his number went down, and I think 375 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 3: that will happen for CJ. I think this will be 376 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: the highest he has, and I think it's somewhere between 377 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: three hundred and three and fifty. But I bring up 378 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow because I think that's kind. 379 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: Of the model. 380 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 3: I watched Burrow and I see Burrow run when he 381 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: has to, and when he does, he kills you, especially 382 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and I think that's the way CJ 383 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: is going to be along those lines. General, number one 384 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: wide receiver, Tennessee or New England, call your shot right now. 385 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: Oh wait, hold on Tennessee, New England or the field 386 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: for DeAndre Hopkins, call your shot right now, both you guys, General, 387 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: you go first. 388 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 5: Only two teams that have showed interest to the Patriots. 389 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: I just read this long story on ESPN about him 390 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 5: and the Patriots never even mentioned Bill o'bon right. People 391 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: don't realize around the NFL how bad the relationship was 392 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 5: between them, And I'm not talking about what came out publicly. Now. 393 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 5: Time and money heals a lot of ones. The champ, 394 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: the big teams, super Bowl contenders, they don't have the money. 395 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: He's trying to get ten million a year. I've been 396 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 5: told Titans, this report by Diana Russini confirmed by a 397 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: Tennessee reporter. They made him an offer and he should 398 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 5: go there where Mike Rabel and Tim Kelly know him 399 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 5: very well. They know he's not going to practice, they 400 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 5: know he'll play. You know, they're not worried about a 401 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 5: second PD suspension. They're not worried about these three different 402 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 5: injuries the last two years. They're familiar, familiar with him 403 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 5: and they know how to handle it. Where if he 404 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 5: goes to New England and he never practices like he 405 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: didn't in Arizona and here, not only is it going 406 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 5: to infuriate O'Brien, it's going to infuriate Belichick. Now, maybe 407 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 5: he'll go up there and practice every day, but it 408 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 5: just seems that Tennessee is a better fit, much easier division. 409 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: And uh so, And I know, I know Mark Wall 410 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: liked this, but I'd like to say twice a year 411 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 5: because I love watching the guy play and I'd like 412 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 5: to see more. But I think you know, since Cleveland, 413 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 5: boy watching has quiet at the campaigning. But they had 414 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 5: scout salary cap money open up where they can afford him. 415 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 5: But they have five receivers, including two veterans they acquired 416 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 5: in free agency and a trade and a second round 417 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 5: pick to go with their starters. So you know they 418 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 5: did that for Watchson. So I'm gonna say he's going. 419 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 5: I'll say he's going to Tennessee. 420 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: I would say so too, Johnny, I would say so too. 421 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: I would like to see him go to New England. 422 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: And if he goes to New England and doesn't want 423 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: to practice much and they're surprised about it, well, guess what, 424 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: that's who he is. But it's fine because he performs 425 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: on Sunday. But I don't know if they're going to 426 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: be able to handle that part of it. I would 427 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: be able to handle it, but it's easy for me 428 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: to say general JJ Watt going into the Ring of Honor. 429 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 2: Thoughts on this. You've watched a lot of Hall of 430 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: famers in this city. You've helped some get into the 431 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Your thoughts on JJ getting into the 432 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: Ring of Honor for the Houston Texans. 433 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: I think it's great. We knew it was going to 434 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 5: happen as soon as we were retired. We knew it 435 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 5: was going to happen. We said Pittsburgh would be the 436 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: best game, even though we didn't know when it would be. 437 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: It was just a natural. And maybe Derek, his other brother, 438 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: will re sign with the Steelers to play fullback, but 439 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 5: right now he's without a job. But it's going to 440 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 5: be great. You know, even if a lot of Steeler 441 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: fans have bought tickets. The Steelers and Pittsburgh fans have 442 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 5: a great respect for Houston, going back to the great 443 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 5: rivalry between the Steelers and the Oilers. And I'll guarantee 444 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 5: you every Steeler fan in the stands will stand and 445 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 5: give JJ a huge ovasion when he's introduced. I have 446 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: never seen anything like his last game at forty nine 447 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 5: Ers and at the end of the game, and I 448 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 5: asked him about this on the conference call, when the 449 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: fans started channing. Every fan in the in Levi Stadium 450 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: is standing clapping and channing his name, and across the 451 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 5: field you see the defensive coordinator of the forty nine 452 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 5: Ers clapping along with all the forty nine Ers coaches 453 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: and people on that side of the ball. Most of 454 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 5: him work for the Texans and I've never seen that. 455 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 5: I remember hearing Derek Jeter the Red Sox fans at 456 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 5: Fenway Channing Derek Jeter are just like the Yankee fans 457 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 5: as a tribute to him. But I've never seen it, 458 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: and I know I'll never see it again. 459 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. 460 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: Think about General the impact JJ has had on the 461 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: city of Houston, and when you think about the greats 462 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: of the city of Houston, I think about keem Olaijwaant. 463 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: He plays college ball here. Earl Campbell was from Tyler 464 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: and went to ut Nolan Ryan was from Alvin. Yeah, 465 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: here's this kid that comes from Wisconsin that on Draft 466 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: Day there are a lot of people that went, wait, 467 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: why we drafted him. I don't know that I can 468 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 3: remember a player in this city general that's had an 469 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: impact on this city that wasn't from Texas or from 470 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: the area that came in and had an impact like JJ. 471 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: Is that something you look back on and think, Man, 472 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: I never thought he would take that or have that 473 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: impact on the city the way that he has, especially 474 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: coming from Wisconsin. 475 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: I think he came from ut or A and M 476 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: or someplace like that. 477 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 5: If our Governor Greg Abbott and our new Mayor Sylvester 478 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: Turner's term limits over whoever's running for mayor. They better 479 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 5: be on their knees thanking God that JJ White doesn't 480 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 5: want to be mayor or governor, because if he did, 481 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: he would win. And you guys know that, I've never 482 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: seen a player do more off the field. A lot 483 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: of players do charity things like crazy donate money, but 484 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 5: JJ was doing it with a very family in two 485 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: thousand before he even signed, came into town, heard about 486 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: these two kids, these kids who were in the hospital 487 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 5: and they might not walk again, and their parents were killed. 488 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 5: And he went up there to visit him, and he's 489 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 5: still really close to him. And I just never seen 490 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 5: anybody do it. I ask him one time, why do 491 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: you do all that? He said, well, I'm single. Someday 492 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 5: i'll be married and I'll sit around on my sofa 493 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 5: playing with my kids and my wife and watching Sports Center. 494 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 5: But right now I'm not doing that. So I want 495 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 5: to get out and do things in the community. It's 496 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: just just what I get such a kick out of 497 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 5: doing it. When he was honored with the NFL Man 498 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: of the Hero Ward for his off season accomplishments, you 499 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 5: know that to me was as big as NFS three, 500 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: NFL Defensive Player of the Year Awards because it defined 501 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 5: who JJ White was. He's come a long way from 502 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: delivering pizza, having a wreck, having to call his parents 503 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: to dig him out, and eating all the pizzas he's 504 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 5: supposed to be delivered, and then walking on his tiny end. 505 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: That's beautiful at Central Michigan originally, Fire up chips, General, 506 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: You've got the Utopia podcast, your column on what was it? 507 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: The offensive line, and other stuff for us to look 508 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: forward to. 509 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: Right I do on Sports Radio six ten dot com. 510 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: And it's free, free, free, General, Thank you so much 511 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: for being with us. Thank you guys very much. 512 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: Have a great weekend. 513 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: All right you too. Coming up Who's Better? 514 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: Texans Opponents Edition, individuals, teams, stats stuff. 515 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 4: It's Texans Radio, Texans All Access continues in a moment, 516 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: we returned to Texans All Access. 517 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we do here live with the Honday Texans 518 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: Radio Studio, Mark Vandermere and John Harris. 519 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: Johnny, I just heard that Shaquille Griffin promo. 520 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was a guest on Sports Radio six 521 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: to ten. And I'm thinking about the corner spot here 522 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: before we get to Who's Better, I'm thinking about Steven Nelson, 523 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: Derek Stingley, junior Shaquille Griffin. If they had to play 524 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: somebody after that, is it des or to Tavier Thomas 525 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: who moves outside. 526 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: As would move outside and then have would stay inside. 527 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: That makes them Dare I say it deep at corner deeper? Yeah, 528 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: it's definitely deeper. It's not ocean deep, right, but it's 529 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: lake deep. And you gotta hope that at some point, 530 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: you know, like last year pond deep, right, but last 531 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: year what happened late in the year, Treymon Smith stepped 532 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: up and got some reps when they needed to. So 533 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: you need another guy beyond that, whether it's a Kendall Sheffield, 534 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: whether it's Kadar Holman who we talked to who will 535 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: hear from next week, who's really fun to talk to, 536 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: one of those other guys, Kobe Francis, who was a 537 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: rookie last year. 538 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: He made a nice play yesterday. 539 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been really impressive. I mean those guys are 540 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 3: all kind of high weight speed guys. I mean, they've 541 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 3: got size and they can all run. So I think 542 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: if you can find that one other guy too, just 543 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: so you can feel really good. And they had Tremond 544 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 3: here last year, and so I think that always helped that. Okay, 545 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: sting went down, You're gonna move Dez out, but you've 546 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: got Tremon having to step up to take some reps. 547 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: You know, isn't that Dallas game when when Stingley was 548 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: already out then Stephen Nelson gets hurt in that game, 549 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 3: So now all of a sudden, you got Dez out there, 550 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: Tremont goes in and I remember, like, wait a second, 551 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: Tremon's in the game, and I was just about to 552 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: tell you he picks off a pass in that game 553 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: against Dallas. I mean it was I mean, it was perfect. 554 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 3: He ended up having two that game. But I think 555 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: that's what you need. You need a veteran that's gonna 556 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: be that that guy that you you're gonna feel the need. 557 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna feel that like should we move DEAs outside? 558 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: To move with DEAs outside? 559 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: If you can get that other guy to step up, 560 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: then you don't need to move des outside. 561 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: But if you do have to move dead outside, you. 562 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: Have Tavi Aer inside or you know, either way, I mean, 563 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: if if Tabier is a guy inside, I just I 564 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: love what those two guys can bring. And when they're 565 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: on the field together, some good things happen when when 566 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: Desmond King and Tavia Thomas on the field together. So 567 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: you're right, deep is definitely not a word we've used 568 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: for a while with the secondary, but I think all 569 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: things consider it. Again, you talk about this all the time. 570 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: Injuries something you have to monitor, but if you keep 571 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: those guys healthy back there, for the most part, I 572 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: think you're an opportunity to have a pretty stellar secondary. 573 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, Tavia or Thomas. PFT rated him very high as 574 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: a slot corner two years ago, and I know you 575 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: love PFT. 576 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: All right, I'll stop PFF. You mean PFF. PFT is 577 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: pro football talk. I like PFT. I'm okay with Mike 578 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Florio for the most part. Yeah, I mean he muck 579 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: rakes a. 580 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: Little bit, but of course, but you know what he created, 581 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: that's just him. 582 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: All right. Let's get to who's better Texans opponents? 583 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: Edition? 584 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: The Texans are playing the NFC South Johnny, Yes, the 585 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints and the Atlanta Falcons. 586 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Who's better? Now? 587 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: Let me just paint the picture for you here, because 588 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: Derek Carr joins the Saints, who went seven to ten 589 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: last year, had some nice little wins down the stretch, 590 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: including but not limited to, beating the Cleveland Browns, thank 591 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: you very much for doing that. Yeah, and the Falcons, 592 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: look they should be better Arthur Smith year two. Desmond 593 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: Ritter is the quarterback, but who's better? They both had 594 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: seven wins last year. 595 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 5: Go. 596 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: I think the Saints are more complete, but I think 597 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: the Falcons have some elite dudes and do not sleep 598 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: on Klay's Campbell in Atlanta helping that squad out. Watching 599 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: him last year, I mean, you're like, he's eighty years old, 600 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: and my god, he's still disrupting plays. 601 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 2: He probably doesn't have to play every stamp either, right, 602 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: exactly doesn't have to. 603 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: He got Grady Jarrett there. 604 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if the Falcons are excellent upfront, but 605 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: Grady Jarrett Klays Campbell, They've got something there that I 606 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: think they can do something with. I think the Saints 607 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: defense is better than people think. Tyron played some good 608 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: ball last year. Marshawn Lattimore still back there, the Mario 609 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: Davis at linebacker with Pete Warner. 610 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: Their front is pretty deep. 611 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: Now. They lost Rankets from a couple of years ago, 612 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: and I don't know if they've ever really replaced him. 613 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: To lose David Anyamada, who was a big big He 614 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: filled that role for Rankins. 615 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: It was really good. So I think the Saints have 616 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: a little bit to do defensively. But I just think 617 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: across the. 618 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: Board Alba Kamara Jamal Williams, that's gonna be a tough 619 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: So that's a tough duo to stop, especially because you 620 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: can play them together. 621 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: With Kamara, the Slots run a bunch of choice routes or. 622 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: Option routes, and that's how they That's what they did 623 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: against the Rams in the NFC Championship gap for years ago. 624 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: They just ran option routes to Kamara and he tore 625 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: them a new one. But they just couldn't do it 626 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: enough to win the game. But I think the Saints 627 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: front offensive front, Falcons offensive front pretty close. Falcons offensive 628 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: fronts a lot better than people think. Falcons got some 629 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: lead dudes. I'm talking myself into the Saints like this 630 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: is Saints fifty one, Falcons forty nine sort of thing. 631 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: I think it's pretty close. That's a good one. I 632 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: think it's a really close one. 633 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: It's a good one. 634 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: Texans practicing against the Saints prior to their preseason game 635 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: with them in New Orleans, that'll be interesting. We will 636 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: see Derek Carr up close and personal. He apologized for 637 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: his performance in Las Vegas last year he was benched, 638 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: which leads us to our second who's better better comeback? 639 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson or Derek Carr? Oh was benched he goes 640 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: to New Orleans. Will he have a good comeback, a 641 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: better one than Deshaun Watson who did not play well 642 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: down the stretch in his six appearances with the Cleveland Browns. 643 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: Will it be better this year or at least better 644 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: than Derek Carror whatever he does in New Orleans? 645 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, yes, and I will be I hate saying 646 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: that Deshaun Watson will have the better comeback than Derek Carr. 647 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: I hate saying it. I hate saying it now. 648 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: On the one factor is the fact that over the 649 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: last two months of the year, the Browns will play 650 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: I can't remember what what their schedule looks like, but 651 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: they will play a number of games in cold weather. 652 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: So let's take a look at this from November on. 653 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: From November twelfth at Baltimore, possibility against Pittsburgh at home 654 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: could be cold at Denver November twenty sixth, now. 655 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: La, no, Jacksonville. You never know out December. That's at home. 656 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: Then the Chicago Bears at home, they'll come here inside, 657 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: then they go to the Jets. 658 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: They go I'm sorry. 659 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: They get the Jets at home, and they get the 660 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: Bengals on the road. There's six or seven games down 661 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: to stretch where he's gonna be playing, whether he doesn't like. 662 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: And I know that Derek Carr doesn't have to worry 663 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 3: too much about that because they'll play in a dome. 664 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: They come here playing a dome. 665 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: They I don't know if they go to Indye or not, 666 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: but if they go to Indy Dome, so it's a 667 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 3: little different, and I think Sean might realize that. That said, 668 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: I just feel like Watson is the type of quarterback 669 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: and the type of player that I think Relish is 670 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: showing everybody you forgot about me watch this. So I 671 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: think he'll bounce back. I think he's a little more 672 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: comfortable as system. 673 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. What if he doesn't what he doesn't 674 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: bounce back, what does that mean? They have to ride 675 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: it out? They have to ride out another years to 676 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: Fancy's probably gone. 677 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: He can't probably going and you just go from there. 678 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: If you're them, what choice do you have At what 679 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: point does it become friendly to get out of that 680 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed deal. 681 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: I don't know when you can actually even think about 682 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 3: doing it, especially because they pushed all this money. 683 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: You're riding this out. You pushed everything into him. There's 684 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: no fallback. It's him or two more years and bust, 685 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: and you eat it and move on from there. All right, 686 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 2: let's move on to the next one here. Who's better? 687 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: Texans Opponent's edition? Bear with me on this one. Who's better? 688 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: Better record this year? Steelers or Jaguars? 689 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: Hold on. 690 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: Steelers went nine and eight last year. Kenny Pickett was 691 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: the quarterback. Rookie got better as the year went on. 692 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: Jaguars went nine and eight. Horrible first half, good second half. 693 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: We saw the playoff game. Jaguars Division will be tougher 694 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: than it was. Yes, I think we can definitely say 695 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: that maybe some tougher routes here. Who's better Jaguars or Steelers? 696 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: Obviously the AFC North is a very difficult division. But 697 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: the Steelers should be better too, shouldn't they? 698 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: Question Mark? Yeah, you would think. I think the Steelers should. 699 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers will bounce back, and I say 700 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: bounce back. I think there'll be nine to ten wins. 701 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if the offensive line is all together 702 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: there yet. I know they moved up to get Broderick Jones, 703 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: and I think that will help them in the long run. 704 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: I don't know about right away, but they still have dudes. 705 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean with TJ. Watt, Alex Heismith on the outside, 706 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: Cameron Hayward, They're still They're still dude worthy. 707 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: On defense. 708 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: It's a matter whether Kenny Pickett can kind of keep 709 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: it going from what you saw at the end of 710 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: the year. But even when he got it going, they 711 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 3: didn't score a ton of points maybe the Raiders, like 712 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 3: thirteen to ten or something like that late in the year. 713 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: So it's an interesting schedule for them because they played 714 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: the NFC West, so that's Niners, but the Cardinals aren't great, 715 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 3: you know, you know what the Rams are gonna get, 716 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 3: and then they play the AFC South, where they're gonna 717 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: get a bunch of rookie quarterbacks. Yeah, minus Trevor Lawrence. 718 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: They'll lose here on JJ Watt Day, Yeah, they'll loose here. 719 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 3: They get the Jaguars in Pittsburgh, So I think that 720 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: Jacksonville's ten wins. I think Jacksonville's ten seven. Okay, I 721 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: kind of feel like the Steelers are ten and seven. 722 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: But if I'm gonna lean anywhere, I'm gonna leave with 723 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. So I'm gonna go. I'll go Jaguars. Okay, 724 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: ten and seven, Steelers nine to eight. 725 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's do this one Texans opponent's edition of 726 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: Who's Better? They're playing the AFC North, as we said, Ravens, 727 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: Who's better the twenty twenty two Ravens record or the 728 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Ravens record. In twenty twenty two, they 729 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: were ten and seven. People, forget todd or Uddly. They 730 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: made the playoffs. They didn't win, but they made the playoffs. 731 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: How many, quickly? How many playoff games have the Ravens 732 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: won since twenty fourteen? Zero won? They got one win 733 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, they beat him. They oh the Titans a 734 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: year after they lost to the Titans when they were 735 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: the number ones? 736 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: Can I go off on JK Dobbins? Sure? JK. 737 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: Dobbins is quote unquote holding in during team mandatory mini camp. 738 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: He's not practicing because he wants a new contract. How 739 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: many games do you think JK. Dobbins has played? Oh, 740 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 3: he's always hurt running backs for the Ravens. Hurt, Lamar Jackson, hurt, 741 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 3: a lot of hurt there. He's played twenty three total games, 742 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 3: he started nine times, nine times, Wow, thirteen twenty five 743 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 3: yards and he wants a new contract. 744 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: When he's healthy. Is good? 745 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: Well, he's healthy, but den eight games last year he 746 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: played fifteen as a rookie, has started once. 747 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: But let me give you an example here. 748 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: If I say everybody in the league is healthy at 749 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: the running back position, and where would you rank j 750 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 2: K Dobbins or at what point? 751 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: Does this mean? Yeah, at the most, there are a 752 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: lot of guys start running backs in this league. They 753 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: are taking JK. Dobbins over Damian Pierce. 754 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: No, no, nobody is what team and what team in 755 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: AFC South has taken that JK Dobbins over there guy, nobody, nobody, 756 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: not you taken a Steelers taking him over Najie Harris, 757 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs with the Raiders. No, no, no, no, I 758 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 3: mean he's not even I don't even know if he's 759 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: top ten in the AFC. 760 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: He's holding it. 761 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 3: Anyways, I think the I do think the Ravens will 762 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: be salty. I think the OBJ addition is actually more needed. 763 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: I was reading about Rashad Bateman and what he's going through. 764 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: He may not be ready for a while, so they 765 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: may need OBJ to be ready right away. But they 766 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: added Zay Flowers and got him signed yesterday. So I 767 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: do think with Lamar coming back, that contract all taken 768 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 3: care of new offenses is going to be interesting. How 769 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 3: they all take to that. But does sound like it's 770 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 3: going pretty well with Todd Munkin. But I'm gonna go 771 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: with the Ravens twenty twenty three. Just you gotta think 772 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: Lamar will be healthy. I think it's Ravens Bengals in 773 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 3: the NFC North and it's gonna be close. It's gonna 774 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 3: I think twelve and five is gonna have to win 775 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: a division, so I'm gonna give them eleven wins, So 776 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 3: that's gonna give them. I think Bengals are twelve, Ravens 777 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: with eleven, I think Steelers nine and Brown's won. 778 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: Nice one. 779 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: All right, Coming up, we brought up the running back 780 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: position for the Houston Texans and segment one. Let's go 781 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: back to that for a moment. How good is this 782 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: group potentially compared to previous groups. And good buddy of 783 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: ours who's battling something and he's an announcer and he 784 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 2: might not make it to the starting line this year. 785 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: Hope he gets back. We'll talk about that briefly coming 786 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 2: out here on Texans Radio. 787 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 4: More Texans Radio is on the way, Tixans Radio is back. 788 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we are, We never left. 789 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: The show will be available via podcast. I suited up 790 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 2: Chris Santiago producing. All Right, a couple of quick things 791 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: here running back room for the Houston Texans. I don't 792 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 2: want to get overly excited, but I guess I did. 793 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: I love this, you do? But just the one two 794 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: punch of Damian Pierce and Devin Singletary. Yep, right there. 795 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: Bill's leading rusher. He didn't put up gargantuan numbers. He 796 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: was steady explosive when he needed to be. Josh Allen's 797 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: a bit of that rushing yard total. You know, when 798 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: I look at the running back rooms that Texans have 799 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: had the last few years, Johnny, you know, we talked 800 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: about Carlos High, Duke Johnson, etc. 801 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen. 802 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 2: Watson was a big chunk of that twenty eighteen Watson 803 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: was a big chunk of the rushing yards, you know, 804 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 2: significant chunk when you get four or five hundred yards 805 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: from your quarterback. 806 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: It's part of the running game. 807 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: And I think that masked when you look at those 808 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 2: rushing yard totals for those squads, That masked what was lacking. 809 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 2: You know, Bill o'brown, I'm sure would tell you I 810 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 2: would rather have, you know, a thousand yard rusher and 811 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 2: a six hundred yard rusher and not have my running 812 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 2: my quarterback run so much. But that's just the way 813 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: they had to do business because they couldn't run it 814 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: the way they needed to. 815 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 816 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And we talked about earlier. Sean was always good 817 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: for thirty five to forty, like almost every game. Yeah, 818 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: thirty five to forty. And there were times, you know, 819 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 3: like Cincinnati in seventeen he in the fifty forty nine. 820 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: Fifty one yard first start. You win it, whatever way 821 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: you could do it. Yeah, absolutely, no tight ends, I 822 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 2: mean exactly. 823 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: He was finding a way. 824 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: He didn't run more as his you know, career, war 825 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 3: On seeming like, Yeah, more comfortable in the pocket, and 826 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 3: the offensive line got a little bit better obviously. Larrm 827 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: me being a part of that, Titus being a part 828 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 3: of that. But he was always good for thirty five 829 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: to forty yards. It was always that number. I remember 830 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 3: Bill Obriant talking about that when we woul talk about 831 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 3: the running game. He's like, yeah, you know, Deshawn's good 832 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 3: for thirty to forty yards, which is true. And obviously 833 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: that was not St. Davis's ballely Wick and I don't 834 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: think it'll be CJ's either. But I think CJ can't 835 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: take off in Ota practice when he gets a rush 836 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 3: and the rush gets upfield, Well, he's good enough to 837 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 3: get up the field and get something, get positive yardage 838 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 3: and make a defense pay for not stay in the rushlanes, 839 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 3: not being disciplined, and that's really what you what you want. 840 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 3: And then if it's third down and seven, you're playing man, 841 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: everybody turns their back and he could take off and 842 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 3: go yeah great. 843 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 2: I think he'll mean stuff like that. It'll be the 844 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 2: strategic run as needed running. I'm not I'm just gonna 845 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: take off and run with it for the heck of it. 846 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 2: Trivia question, Who is the third leading rusher for the 847 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: Texans in twenty sixteen? Lamar Miller led the way with 848 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 2: one thousand and seventy three yards. Alfred Blue had four 849 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: to twenty. Who is the third leading rusher for that 850 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen team that won the division, Johnny. 851 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: Oh Man, it was uh Jonathan Grimes, he was the fourth. 852 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 2: Brock Osweiler was your third leading rusher with one hundred 853 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 2: and thirty one yard. 854 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, so Brock did that. Brock would take 855 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: off when he saw man coverage. 856 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 3: There a few times when the big draft would come 857 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 3: running at me and I'm like, man, I gotta get 858 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 3: out of the way. 859 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: He can move a little bit. That was a very 860 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: underrated aspect of his game. Look, he was a winning quarterback. 861 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: I think his record he was eight and six, right, 862 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 2: and Savage was one in one or something. 863 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: And that's all she wrote. 864 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 2: Okay, they went not won the division with the number 865 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 2: one defense in the NFL. By the way, By the way, 866 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: good luck and many blessings to our friend John Murphy, 867 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: voice of the Buffalo Bills, who is recovering from a 868 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: stroke and may or may not broadcast this season. They're 869 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: gonna make that decision in late July. That story was 870 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 2: circulating nationally today. So John, we're praying for you. I 871 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 2: know you know Salpaccio very well, sideline reporter. They might 872 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: have to go a year without him and take it 873 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 2: from there, but we'll see what they do in Buffalo. 874 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: It's just a little inside stuff from us as we're 875 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: praying for a friend here, all right, No doubt. That's 876 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 2: it for the show tonight. We got another big one 877 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 2: for you tomorrow. Lots of player content tonight. We had 878 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: the General on and talked about some other things. But 879 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 2: it's going to be fun on Texans Radio from now 880 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 2: through camp through eternity. Thank you Chris for producing the show. 881 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 2: Will be on podcasts soon enough. Have a great night, everyone, 882 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: Go Texans how This is Texans 883 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 4: Radio on Sports Radio six ' ten