1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's camera. How do we reopen this economy? 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: The latest on how this pandemic is impacting farmers. What 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: does this do from the United States relationship with China? 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound on the inside, the influencers, the insides. We're 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: responding to this crisis and manufacturers are stepping up like 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: never before. You're looking at seveny Kennedys for different vctines. 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: How do we make sure a pandemic of this gale 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: never happens again? This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Surrelate on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: M h D two Wolf Draft cancels summer performances Washington, DC, 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: Maryland and Virginia at ninety one virus related debts. Are 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: you going to the shore this weekend? Are you going 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: to the shore? We've got Katherine Schraver from the Washington Post. 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: She's the Post transportation reporter. She's gonna tell us all 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: about how thousands from coronavirus hotspots have flocked Maryland and 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Virginia as parts of the states reopened. All of this 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: cultural dynamic, literally the water cooler conversation of this holiday 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: weekend as the US cases increased one point eight percent. 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: President Trump pushing to open places of worship. Lots to 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: get through. Did you hear what former Vice President Joe 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Biden said on the radio today, Wendy Benjaminson going to 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: navigate through that for us Bloomberg's Politics editor. Uh, we're 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: also gonna be on veepstakes, and then we're gonna check in. 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm very excited for this with Congressman Max Rose, a 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Democrat from New York, to talk all things COVID in 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: New York and reopening, but he also has a youth 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: sports effort in Congress. He's trying to gather a bipartisan 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: group of lawmakers to make sure that youth sports programs 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: all over the country are able to navigate through the 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: reopening and post pandemic phase. And then Bethany Ruben Henderson, 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: who is the CEO of my good friends at DC 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Scores and the president of the America Scores Network, is 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: going to talk about how youth soccer programs and literacy 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: programs and our region are being impacted by this. So 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: lots to get through. Awesome Friday Show. Kevin Currelli, Chief 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio and 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: just a special programming note, you can check out our 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: special report on America's employment crisis tonight at nine pm 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Eastern on Bloomberg Television. We spent a lot of hard 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: work on it, and we have exclusive interviews with Labor 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Secretary Scalia h House Financial Services Committee Chairwoman Maxine Waters. 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Who else. We've got some of the nation's top CEOs. 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: Bench Chili Bowl Virginia Ali co founder. We actually went 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: to ben Chilly Bowl and talked with her about how 45 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: uh the house her business is being impacted by all 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: of this, and we checked in with Susan London mackenzie 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: because really, folks, when we come out of this, the 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: economy might look a lot different, uh than when we 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: went in. So if you're interested, it'll be on Bloomberg 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Television at nine pm Eastern tonight. It will also be 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: available cross Bloomberg platform and streaming services on Bloomberg and 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: on YouTube. So check it out. Let me know what 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: you think. Okay, holiday weekend lots to get through. I 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: want to start inside of the nation's capital because Katherine 55 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: Shavers on the line Washington Post Transportation reporter, and she 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: has this great story out in the post headline, thousands 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: from coronavirus hotspots flocked to Maryland and Virginia as parts 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: of the states reopened. Okay, Katherine, thanks so much for 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: being here. This is the hottest topic of the weekend. 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Should you leave the city or not? What do you 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: what can you report back to us? Well, the public 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: health experts would tell you if you're still living in 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: an area that's under a stay at home order, of 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: your local businesses aren't open. They want you to stay put. 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: They do not want you to travel. UM. The big 66 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: concern is that a lot of these vacation destinations are 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: in rural areas, UM, where you know, their raad of 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: transmission might be pretty low right now. But as a 69 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: bunch of us who live in places like these in 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: the closes and suburbs, if we start heading out to 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the beaches, we can bring the virus with us. And 72 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: then in the next week or two they start saying 73 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: their cases go up. You know, I think this is 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: fascinating because my understanding and I grew up outside of 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Philly and a lot of folks up there go to 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore. The boardwalks are open, but the businesses 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: are still only able to do curbside, And it gets 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: to this common sense question of Okay, if there's gonna 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: be all these crowds of the beaches and they're doing curbside, 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: aren't there still going to be crowds? I mean, you know, 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: you go up to fourteenth Street in d C. And 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: you kind of see some of these crowds. So what 83 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: did you hear from your reporting, Katherine, when you talk 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: to the businesses at some of these hot spots for 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: the holiday weekend? Well, I think you know what we 86 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: saw last weekend in places like Ocean City, Maryland, where 87 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: you're right, there were throngs of people on these boardwalks, 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: and it didn't matter that they couldn't sit down on 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: the restaurants. They were lined up on the boardwalk, you know, 90 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: sometimes a couple of feet apart, sometimes six ft apart, 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: sometimes wearing masks, sometimes not um us to get some 92 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: French fries, And one of the researchers I talked to said, 93 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: we're just sick of eating French fries at home. We're 94 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: we just want to get outside, and we don't want 95 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: to get outside in our neighborhood anymore. We want to 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: get outside to get a change, of scenery. And it 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: probably doesn't even matter that we can't really sit on 98 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: a beach and enjoy a book. Maybe we have to 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: keep walking or maybe we have to um, we're not 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: allowed to sit down on a boardwalk bench. But we 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: just want to get out and about and and get 102 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: out of our homes. You know. You also interviewed the 103 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Ocean City mayor Rick me In. What did he have 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: to say? He said, Um, you know, he said, we 105 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: have never encouraged people to violate stay at home orders 106 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: in their local jurisdictions. Um. You know, of course, they 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: have just reopened their hotels and they you know, they 108 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: really count on the tourist business, especially you know, a 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend in the summer. But he is really 110 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: worried about people bringing coronavirus with them and then he 111 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: would probably have a bigger problem. So he's saying, if 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: you have a stay at home order in your jurisdiction, 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: please stay home for now and don't violate it. It 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: really is just remarkable when you think of just how 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: every single industry has been just so devastated by this. 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: From Washington, d C. And UH and and the h 117 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: from the Cherry Blossom festival touris under graduations. And you 118 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: know you mentioned hotels down there at at at the shore. 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: What are hotels doing? I mean are they are they 120 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: taking extra precautions or how are they doing it? You know, 121 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't know for certain. I know they are reopen 122 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: um in Ocean City, but I'm sorry, I don't know 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: exactly what percussions are taking and as we move forward nowhere. 124 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: So that's how that's That's how you know you're talking 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: to a legit reporter is when they say what they 126 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: don't know. That's amazing. Um gother Shaver of the Washington Post, 127 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: she's got this great story. She's the transportation reporter for 128 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, and she's got this great story. As 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: we head into this holiday weekend, is businesses, hotels, local 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: municipalities are all grappling with how to handle this as 131 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: parts of the states are beginning to reopen. Has there 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: been any talk of how much travel might be down 133 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: or or is it expected to be on par with 134 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: previous weekends. I think what is worrying public health experts 135 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: a bit is that they started seeing this increase in 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: travel way back, you know, several weeks ago in mid 137 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: April so it's not like they're even bracing for a 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: jump and travel this weekend. It's already been happening. In fact, 139 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: they estimate that of the increase in travel that they're 140 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: seeing every weekend is just a continuation of this quarantine 141 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: fatigue that we've all heard so much about. If people 142 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: are just tired of staying home, they think only about 143 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: it is um connected to businesses themselves reopening. But I 144 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: think they are worried that they have seen this overall 145 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: trend of people traveling more. And you know, of course 146 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend people start thinking beach and getting out 147 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: of town. So I think they are expecting more travel 148 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: and probably I'm pretty worried about it. You know. It 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: really is remarkable, um and and and fascinating, especially when 150 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: we hear so much about the nursing homes and of 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: course children as well, and how everything is being impacted 152 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: and there's just so many cultural things right down to 153 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: letting kids play together and whatnot. Coming up on the program, 154 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk with some leading experts in our community 155 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: at Washington d C About how youth sports programs are 156 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: being impacted by this Captain Shaver Happy Memorial Day weekend, 157 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: my friend, and thank you so much for coming on 158 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: and talking about your reporting in the Washington Post. Coronavirus 159 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Thousands from coronavirus hotspots flocked to Maryland and Virginia as 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: parts of the state's reopened. Coming up talking much more 161 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: about the election. Wendy Benjaminson, Bloomberg Politics Editor, She returns 162 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: to the program. It's always interesting when Wendy brings the news. 163 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin s REALI download The bloombergs Down On podcast 164 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: on Apple i Tunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by 165 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: downloading to Bloomberg Business App. You can also find me 166 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio and Spotify and 167 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: again another plug tonight, nine nine o'clock. I'm Eastern Time, 168 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: a special deep dive report into America's employment crisis. I'm 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:14,479 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg 170 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg and one Old 171 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: five point seven F M H D two. I'm Kevin Curreli, 172 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Lots to get through. Did you hear former Vice President 174 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden on the Breakfast Club radio program. Wendy Benjaminson, 175 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: sure did. She is Bloomberg's politics editor. Wendy my friend. 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: It's good to talk with you. I miss you, Wendy. 177 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: I missed you two. It's so great to be back 178 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: on the show. You know, I really got to say, 179 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: I miss our Friday con fabs in the office. I 180 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: miss you know, just getting in trouble with you, met 181 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: you keeping me out of trouble. You know. I miss it, Randy, 182 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: I miss it. I'm ready to go back. I am too, 183 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: you know, And I think I think I'm going a 184 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: little stir crazy. All right, So former Vice President Joe Biden, 185 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you set the stage. What happened with 186 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: them on the Breakfast Club. Well, it could be that 187 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: he's going a little stir crazy too, because on the 188 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club he was trying to be clever and when 189 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: the host named Charlemagne the god Um, he is talking 190 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: to him about, you know, attracting black voters and doing 191 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: things for Black Americans who are suffering, you know, made 192 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: much higher rates than than others during this pandemic and 193 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: economic crisis. Biden says, if you are still undecided about 194 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: choosing me or Donald Trump, then you ain't black. And 195 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: that brought up the whole notion of shirt and demographic 196 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: groups need to be loyal to certain parties just because 197 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: of their race or religion. Trump has done this with 198 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: Jews a lot. He says, if you're loyal to Israel, 199 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: then you must vote for me. But when Joe Biden 200 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: does it, he shouldn't do things like that, right, So 201 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: it took him several hours, but he went to the U. S. 202 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: Black Chamber UM and had a call with them an apologize. 203 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: Yet it was cavalier and he shouldn't have said it, 204 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: and he didn't mean it. You know. Presumably by Tuesday, 205 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: no one will remember it happened. But it sure made 206 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: for an interesting day. It's sure made for an interesting day, 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: to say the least. He also made some comments about 208 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: who's going to pick for his vice presidential pick. What 209 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: do we know? Well? I think Tammy Baldwin was a 210 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: senator from Wisconsin who's rumored to be on the list. 211 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: She said something today to one of our reporters, Greg Recording, like, um, 212 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: if you know you're not talking, and if you don't 213 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: know you are talking, which was a really sort of 214 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: midwestern plane speaking sort of way of what it's a 215 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: midwestern nice comment, you know where western nice exactly. But 216 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: it's to say that anyone who actually knows what's going 217 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: on isn't speaking about it, and everyone who's flapping their 218 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: guns probably doesn't know what they're talking about. But Biden 219 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: is starting, not Joe Biden himself, that his vice presidential 220 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: selection team are starting to ask people to do, you know, 221 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: for interviews, asking them for references. It's just like any 222 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: other job search. So, um, we understand that Michelle Leuhan 223 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: Grisham has been asked for references, um, and other These 224 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: are the candidates that are not that well known nationally. Um. 225 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: You know he's not asking Elizabeth Warren for references for 226 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Um. You know, u s senators that are 227 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: super well known, but the lower run ones. He's starting 228 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: the process and we know it's going to be a woman. 229 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: We think it's going to be a woman of color. 230 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: And that's about as much as we actually at this point, 231 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: except about twenty names of people who it could be. Okay, 232 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: so this is where I want to be careful here, 233 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: But but how are they going to roll this out 234 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: because I still feel just based on you know, the 235 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: barometer of us non political junkies of which I'm friends 236 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: with many, and they're really focused, rightfully so on many 237 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: things in their own lives of having to navigate through 238 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: a very difficult time, and I don't think they're glued 239 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: to the pulse of politics, even even if they are involved, 240 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: even if they if they if they keep up with 241 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: the news, A lot of people have tuned out the 242 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: news in recent weeks, and I'm I'm just curious for 243 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: how if Biden world is really breaking through, and at 244 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: what point will people turn back? Do you get what 245 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get up? I do? I do. And 246 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: for the people who are too busy worrying about a 247 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: pandemic and a recession to pay attention to President Um, 248 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: the blooport politics will be there for you. Um we're 249 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: watching redevelopment that day. But I think he would wrote out. 250 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, normally they will n out right before the convention. 251 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: And so there's this skilled up who's gonna be there's 252 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: gonna be and thank you know, the person and introduces 253 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: the convention to bloms the cheers and fan all that stuff. Um, 254 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know how that is gonna happen. Don't 255 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: will be good point because the Democrats, uh, they noises 256 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: that they might not even have a conception or that 257 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: they might do a march you will day. They're talking 258 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: about it being a big TV show anyway, So why 259 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: not just make it the show? It's not her? Five 260 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: thousands people gatherings shoulder to shoulder, beating mommy chill four 261 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: days and the sort of four to five days back 262 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: and out. Um, there are probably gonna be going ahead. 263 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: Were you my friend? You're saying such good stuff, but 264 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately your connection is a little spotty. So I want 265 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: to reset. If there's a way stay on the line 266 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: with me, and if there's a way that you can 267 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: move to a spot where we can get a better connection, 268 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: because you're making so many great points and just to reset. 269 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Here Wendy Benjaminson's on the line, and she is Bloomberg's 270 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: politics editor, and she we're talking about this conundrum that 271 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the Biden campaign finds itself in, which is essentially, how 272 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: do you get excitement? How do you roll out the 273 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: vice presidential pick and have all the pomp and circumstances 274 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: of the balloons and the despair. I'll never forget being 275 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: on the floor of the Republican Convention back at the 276 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: s and all the balloons are coming down. It's like 277 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: raining red, white, and blue, and and I'm thinking to myself, 278 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: if Biden holds a virtual, virtual convention, how is that 279 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: going to happen? Wendy, talk to me. I'm hoping. I'm 280 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: hoping that your phone is in a better spot, so 281 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: much better. I can hear you now, Wendy. Okay, I 282 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: won't move us, Thank you? How will How will the 283 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: convention work? That's what you're asking. Yes, they don't think, 284 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: they don't yet, but they were thinking of all these 285 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: different plays. It was a very smart democratic strategist to 286 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: Grant through the genda's campaign. She said something the other day, like, 287 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, there were so many possibilities for convention. They 288 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: could blast space are projected on the wall of the 289 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Grand can. They could have him give a speech to 290 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: the venue that looks like a convention, but there aren't 291 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: five thousand people there. There are many ways that they 292 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: can do this. They are already moving to have the 293 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: delicate folks virtually if they want to, and I think 294 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the probably will. Jeff delegates tend to 295 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: be retirees and people, so um the awesome Wendy Benjamin said, 296 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much. It's so great to talk with you, 297 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: my friend. Congratulations on all the incredible coverage that you 298 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: and your team are continuing to push through. Um and 299 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: and truly, truly, I'm very grateful that that for you 300 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: to call in today. Coming up, we talked with Congressman 301 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: Max Rose. I'm Kevin Sirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg nine 302 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: nine one listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Currel 303 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg and one O five point seven m h 304 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 305 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: Television and for Bloomberg Radio. I want to welcome back 306 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: to the program Congressman Max Rose, a Democrat from New York. Congressman, 307 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: welcome back, and congratulations on your newborn son. Thank you 308 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: so much. You know, I uh, my wife and I 309 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: adopted a child two months two and a half months ago. 310 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: His name is mild Benjamin Rose. And every day is 311 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: truly joyful. Truly, although although my friend, I'm still trying 312 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: to figure out these be usable diapers. Is unbelievable. You 313 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: know there's nineteen thousand buttons. Uh at one? I am 314 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: you know dark, I'm my mom still picking up the 315 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: disposable goods this weekend. I feel like you're gonna have 316 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: a lot of time to figure out those reusable diapers. Wow, 317 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: we've come a long way in It's no joke. It's 318 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: no joke. But as to look, I supported, I'm an environmentalist, 319 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: but I really urged the whoever's making these products to 320 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: please make them simpler. Simple. I'm a simple elected officials. 321 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: I love it all right, never a dull moment. Are 322 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: we got a lot to get through. It's Brooklyn ready 323 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: to be reopened. But we we have got to stop 324 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: looking at this as a red light green light situation. Okay, 325 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Brooklyn is ready for. Brooklyn is 326 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: ready for common sense. And if I am an owner 327 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: of a shoe store and I have seen people able 328 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: to walk in and out of a liquor store for 329 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: two months, going to a target and a shoe for 330 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: market where there's hundreds, if not sometimes maybe thousands of 331 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: people or home depot, then you're damn right. He deserves 332 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: to be pissed. She deserves to be upset. You know, 333 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: you make sense to me, Congressman, because that's what I 334 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: don't understand is how come that we can all gather 335 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: on four T shirt and d C and and stand 336 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: in line to get take out. But I can't sit 337 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: outside that that that doesn't make look there at one 338 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: point or this is this, This situation is unprecedented. It 339 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: has been replete with moments where we've had to make 340 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: really tough decisions. And I'm not here too, uh you know, 341 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterback. But right now where we're at, okay, 342 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: is let's give our small businesses guidelines. Let's get them 343 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: PPE who has extended the these payroll Protection Program timeline 344 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: so that they can adequately use this money. Let's let 345 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: them use more money for their mortgages and their rents 346 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: and this and that. But we we gotta let them 347 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: are to open because these businesses are dying and this 348 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: is people's life's work, and we have got to take 349 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: public health into consideration. It's always got to be our priority. Okay, 350 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm not an animal, but I don't want people to 351 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: commit economic suicide either. You know, it's it's you know, 352 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: I when I talk to lawmakers and I get to 353 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: do it every single day. It's really frustrating when you 354 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: talk to someone and you feel like they're not answering 355 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: your question. Congressman Rose is not one of those people. 356 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: Most of them are full of it. But I thank 357 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: you for the compliments. The Democrat from and you don't 358 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: have to agree with them, you don't have to disagree 359 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: with them whatever, But he's gonna say it like it 360 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: is Democrat from New York. I want to you know, 361 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: you also served obviously in the military, and you are 362 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: still serving in the Army reserves, and I want to 363 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: ask you about how this you think is going to 364 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: change the dynamic geopolitically, Congressman with China, so it's clear 365 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: that China lied significantly, um and no one, no one's 366 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna peg me as week on China. Lead the only 367 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: bill last Congress that put sanctions on China, put sanctions 368 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: on Chinese pharmaceutical companies that were pushing a listed sent 369 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: in all onto our shores and killing our kids. Um As. 370 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: There's obviously things that we have got to do in 371 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: response to this new geopolitical reality. First and foremost, we 372 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: have to bring much more of the production of these 373 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: critical supplies pharmaceutical PPE laboratory equipment. We gotta bring that 374 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: back to the United States. This is a matter of 375 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: national security, UM, and we certainly have to. We can 376 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: never when it comes to matters of national security in 377 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: public health take China at its word. But with all 378 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: these things being said, none of this can be an 379 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: excuse for increasing a phobia towards Chinese UM and Asian 380 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: Americans who are just as American as you are, I 381 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: or anyone else, my friend, and are deserving of an 382 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to pursue the American dream. And we cannot you 383 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: since as an opportunity to not now do the right thing. 384 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: We don't have enough PPE. We don't have enough swabs. 385 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: A swabs are glorified q tip. Here in the greatest 386 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: country in the history in the world, we don't have 387 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: enough swabs. Are you kidding me? So we got to 388 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: focus on China. We have to do certainly a full 389 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: analysis of what went wrong, But that's no excuse for 390 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: us not getting the job done here at home as well. 391 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: We can chew gum and walk at the same time. 392 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: And now, but I mean in the last couple of days, 393 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: and I want to get your take on this in 394 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: terms of whether or not you think with China especially, 395 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: this could be a bipartisan issue because as you have 396 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Shi jing Ping, you know, with these these quote unquote 397 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: national security laws coming out of Beijing with Hong Kong, 398 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: and you've got people like Senator Chris Van Holland, a 399 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: Democrat from Maryland, introducing legislation with Senator Pat Toomey, a 400 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: Republican from Pennsylvania and the Senate to rein in and 401 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: sanction some financial institutions as well as some individuals. Should 402 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: Beijing go through with this against Hong Kong. How important 403 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: is it that the US support Hong Kong. It's absolutely 404 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: vital that the United States not only support Hong Kong, 405 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: but supportive allies and support its values. You know, America, 406 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: for all it's uh blemishes and ways in which you 407 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: can improve, America has been the first nation in the 408 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: history of the world at a moment of incredible power 409 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: with you know, out another peer. Today cheap cannot advance 410 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: just itsself interest, but to seek to advance a value system, 411 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: to seek to advance human rights. That's important, okay, and 412 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: that's not something that we should give up in the 413 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: twenty one century. Uh, it is clear that China is 414 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: seeking to advance another system, one in which democracy is 415 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: not of importance, one in which human rights are not 416 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: of importance. And look, I don't believe that that should 417 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: be the future of this world, and so long as 418 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: we have an opportunity for it not to be, we 419 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: should seize it, all right, And you've got switching gears. 420 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Now you've got this new bill out in Congress. Cornerson 421 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: maxws Democrats on new work about youth sports. I want 422 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: you to tell us exactly what it is, because I've 423 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: I've actually been really I think a lot of folks 424 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: are concerned about how kids are going to be negatively 425 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: impacted by missing all of these playtimes. Sell grew up 426 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: playing sports, I mean to not be able to do that. 427 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's hard to comprehend, you know. And 428 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: this is a problem sometimes with Democrats that they look 429 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: at something like youth sports and they say, oh, I 430 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: don't concern myself with that. I do high level thinking. Well, 431 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: I look, I grew up in New York man and 432 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: and little league soccer basketball, although I quickly stopped playing 433 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: basketball because I'm too too short, vertically challenged. How I 434 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: was to vertically vertically challenged. These were pillars of my childhood, 435 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: pillars of the community from my fondest member with friends 436 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: and my my parents, and then where I learned lessons 437 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: that are still of great importance and value to me today. 438 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: So it is this is not theoretically and it's not small. 439 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: Most of our youth sports. In fact, all of our 440 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: youth sports have been canceled for the springtime. Many of 441 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: them will not be able to occur in the summertime 442 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: most likely, although UM, I certainly think if that's possible, UM, 443 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: it should. And so many families have already paid their 444 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: dues though they paid them to the little leagues, and 445 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: they paid them. It's not just about sports. It's also 446 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: about other activities ballet, theater or whatever else it might be. 447 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: And many of those organizations have fixed costs. They got 448 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: to spend money on lights and personnel and all types 449 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: of things. They can't give one percent of the money back. 450 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: And so it is my opinion and we are have 451 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: put this into legislation that these dudes should equate to 452 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: tax credits UM, and that there should also be a 453 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: fund authorized to bail out many of these youth sports 454 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: and youth activities, maybe these organizations, because look, this is 455 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: a drop in the bucket. We're giving these businesses billions 456 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: of dollars and I I support that too, because we 457 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: got to bail out our workers and we've gotta save 458 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: this economy. Would save our youth sports too. You know, 459 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: that's good stuff. That's good stuff, all right, Congressman Max Rose, 460 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: Democrat from New York, I very much appreciate you taking 461 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: some time off from daddy hood to check in with 462 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: us on a Friday, happy Memorial Day weekend. Thank you 463 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: for your service to our country, and thank you for 464 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: checking in with Bloomberg Radio. Appreciate that, sir, man, much appreciated. 465 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, And coming up on the program, we're gonna 466 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: stick with this discussion of youth sports with my friends 467 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: at DC Scores in America Scores Network, which they're going 468 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: to give us an update on how things are, what 469 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: they've been doing. Meanwhile, you can check out my special 470 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: report on Bloomberg Television tonight at nine pm Eastern UH 471 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: into America's employment crisis. That's at nine pm Eastern m 472 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: will be wherever you can stream Bloomberg as well UH 473 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: after it airs. I'm Kevin Sirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg. 474 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. Sound On with Kevin Surile on 475 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f M h 476 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: D two. I'm Kevin SURRELEI Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 477 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Television and for Bloomberg Radio. I'm not leaving the city 478 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: this weekend, folks. I'm not you know, I'm staying put. 479 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm staying put. You know, We've got a couple more 480 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: days until we go into the until we go into 481 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: the Phase one or whatever they're calling it, and stuff reopens. 482 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, you know cargresson Max Rose was on 483 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: just a little bit ago, and he was telling us 484 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: about this new piece of legislation that he's introduced that 485 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: would allow for tax write offs for youth sports. And 486 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I've got to be really candid here. I am so 487 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: excited to have my friends at DC Scores uh come 488 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: on this program, because I will be I will be very, 489 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: very honest. I'm a huge fan of them. I love them. 490 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: I've seen up close the work that they do, so 491 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm biased and that I think that they do a 492 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: great job for the kids in our community, just for 493 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: both soccer programming and uh for literacy programs here in 494 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: the nation's capital. Bethany Ruben Henderson's on the line. She 495 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: is the chief executive officer of DC Scores and President 496 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: of the America Scores Network. Alright, Bethany, first of all, 497 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: thank you, my friend for coming on. Tell us what 498 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: America Scores and DC Scores does, and then we'll dive 499 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: into how what how you guys are adjusting. Absolutely, Thank you, Kevin. 500 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: So glad to be here and get to spend this 501 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: time with you. America Scores and DC Scores are sports 502 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: based youth development organizations. What's that means is that we 503 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: work with low income intercity children around the country in 504 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: fact Canada as well, and provide free after school programming 505 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and summer camp centered around soccer teams. But every kid 506 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: of our soccer teams also writes and performs original poetry 507 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: with their soccer team, and designs and carries out service 508 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: projects with their team. So it's a very mind, body, 509 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: soul experience and it's been around for like thirty some years. Right. 510 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: You're actually celebrating our twenty fifth anniversary this year. We 511 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: had a few events planned, but we're having a postpone 512 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: um a little bit. Thanks for the coronavirus, all right, 513 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: So tell me first of all just how the how 514 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: you guys have adjusted course throughout the throughout the pandemic. Absolutely, 515 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: so our mission remains the same to keep kids feeling safe, supported, 516 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: connected and hopeful, right, and how do we do that 517 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: in environment when we work with kids who live on 518 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: the other side of the digital device, kids who do 519 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: not have a lot of access and kids who oftentimes 520 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: are actually now because of social distancing, because of stay 521 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: at home orders forcibly located in their less safe spaces. 522 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Right they come to school, they often come to us. 523 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: We're a safe space. So what we're doing a slip 524 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: to virtual programming. What that means is we're offering programming 525 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: online programming kids can pull down and do on their 526 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: own or do with their coaches and interactive sessions. And 527 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: our coaches are continuing to reach out to our poet 528 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: athletes as we call them by phone, by tests, reaching 529 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: out and checking in are you okay? Can we help you? 530 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Were making sure our kids and their families know what 531 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: the safety rules and precautions are and supporting them as 532 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: they try to access food and other things as well, 533 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: you know this is so important because I mean, you know, 534 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: it's been really really heartwarming to see how um a 535 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: lot of youth sports programs have utilized tools like Zoom 536 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: to have you know, after school soccer programming for their 537 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: kids and whatnot. But America Scores and DC Scores there 538 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: they provide free after there are nonprofit. They provide free 539 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: after school programming for these poet athletes. And many of 540 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: these kids are not they don't have the technology resources available. 541 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Can you tell talk to me, Bethany about some of 542 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: the technological challenges that that these students face. Absolutely, So 543 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: we're hearing from our families and our coaches. Is that 544 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: in many homes we work with little kids. I should say, 545 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: we worked primarily with kindergartens through race graders. So many 546 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: of these homes, three or four kids might be vying 547 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: to share a mom's phone to try and access their 548 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: school work. Think about that. I think about that because 549 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: think about that for our audience in particular. Think about 550 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: that three or four kids in one home are vying 551 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: for their mother's cell phone so they can kick a 552 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: ball around either indoors or outdoors. Go ahead, absolutely, so 553 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: they can connect with their school right, they can pull 554 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: their school work off UM and a lot of our homes, 555 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: a lot of our families, internet access is not consistent right. 556 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes our middle schoolers especially, they might have devices, but 557 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: they're reliant on others WiFi. So in normal times they 558 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: can get WiFi at school, they can get WiFi, you know, 559 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: at the corner store, but that doesn't happen if they 560 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: can't go out in those communities. They might have a device, 561 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: but it may not be able to access anything because 562 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: WiFi is either consistent or two inconsistent or two expensive. 563 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: And so we're really operating in a world where some 564 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: of our kids do have digital access into different degrees, 565 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: and many do not. And how do we connect with 566 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: all of them during this time when they need us, 567 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: when they need their teams and their coaches, and knowing 568 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: that there's a support groupe behind them more than ever. So, 569 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: how so, how have you guys adopted us? So how 570 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: have you What are some of the things that you've 571 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: done to address some of those problems? Absolutely so, I 572 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: love how innovative our programs are. We operate in twelve 573 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: different communities, and every community has its own idiosyncrasies, and 574 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: so one community sent out postcards to every family here 575 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: in d C. We've had coaches calling the kids families. Um. 576 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: He said, Look, you know we pay our coaches. We 577 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: treat our coaches as a professional um service. Cor right. 578 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: They are working hard, and we're paying our coaches to 579 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: actually just reach out and call every kid on their 580 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: team to check in with them, let them know about 581 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: the resources we have online. We're delivering our soccer ball. 582 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: So he's old coaches, who know what you have inventory 583 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: that you were going to use the spring for our seasons. 584 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: Give the soccer ball so the kids will replace them 585 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: for you later on. Get the equipment into the kid's 586 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: hands so that they have what they need. And I 587 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: think this this is important. And folks, if you're if 588 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: you're just joining us, Bethany Ruben Henderson's on the line 589 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: and she's the uh the head of America Score and 590 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: of DC Scores, which provides uh uh for poet athletes 591 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: and it's literacy and soccer program. But you know, we 592 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: we talk about what your your nonprofits doing, Bethany, but 593 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: just broadening out, I mean, these are challenges across the 594 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: country that nonprofits, that youth nonprofits are really truly facing. 595 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: And at a time when you know, quite honestly, many 596 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: of your donors are are being affected economically. What are 597 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: some of the economic challenges from a business standpoint that 598 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: you now face from a business model? Uh that that 599 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: because of this pandemic. Absolutely so, DC Scores America Scores, 600 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: like many other youth serving nonprofits around this country, rely 601 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: on big fundraisers to bring in money to support our kids, 602 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: particularly those of us of offer programming for free so 603 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: it's accessible to all children. And a lot of our 604 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: big fundraisers have been postponed indefinitely because of the pandemic. 605 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: Right events that bring people together, we can't hold those 606 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: the same way. And virtual fundraisers are great and we've 607 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: had some, but they just don't bring in the volume 608 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: of money. That's the short term pain. The bigger problem 609 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: that I see coming down the pike is that the 610 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: belonging which is really the core product of what we 611 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: do right giving kids, these kids who are still developing 612 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: their mental resiliency skills, who have massive trauma in their 613 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: lives and need help processing it and staying on track, 614 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: they need to belong to a team, They need to 615 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: belong to something, and creating belonging as our core products 616 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: there are going the kids we already serve are in 617 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: experiencing more trauma now right, it's trauma compounded. There are 618 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: more kids too once we come out of this, are 619 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: not going to be able to access pay to play programs. 620 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna need programs like ours to be able to 621 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: access sports at all because the economic impact on their 622 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: families from the pandemic. And so we're looking down the 623 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: pike our entire sector at increased demands for what we 624 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: do in the short term, increased costs for what we 625 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: do in the short term because reaching out to every 626 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: kid in this virtual environment is in a digital divide, 627 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: is very human intensive, and increase demand in the long 628 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: term at the same time as the economy of drinking 629 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: philanthropic dollar. As we're looking down the pike worried about 630 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: what will happen. You know, twelve months from now of 631 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: those fellers will still be there, and government dolars that 632 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: provide support for a lot of these programs are also 633 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: going to be shrinking. Because that's why the legislation from 634 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: Congress and Max Rose, Democrat from New York is so interesting. 635 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: Right now, all right, in thirty seconds, give me one 636 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: hopeful message from one of your players, from one of 637 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: your poet athletes, that inspired you to take us into 638 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: this holiday weekend. I can I'm not sure I can 639 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: boil it down to just one um. For me, the 640 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: most hopeful thing is seeing the kid's faces. The fact 641 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: that the kids show up, that they want to actually write, 642 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: and that connecting with their team matters them, matters with them. 643 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: And there's nothing better than seeing a young soccer player 644 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: stands up and say I like poetry even more than 645 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: soccer because it makes me feel powerful. Beth Henderson, thank 646 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: you so much. Check it out DC Scores, All Caps 647 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: DC Scores, and if you've got time this weekend, google 648 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: Soccer in the City. It's a feature length documentary film 649 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: on DC scores and what it does, and it's a 650 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: it's a really good mindset to take us in. Check 651 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: out our special report on Bloomberg Television tonight as well 652 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: at nine pm Eastern, into America's employment crisis. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 653 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. 654 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: Have a great, safe, enjoyable three day weekend, Washington. Thanks 655 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: for listening to Bloomberg