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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsons

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt it is time for the Fantasy Football

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Speaker 2: Focus and we will take it look as we do

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Speaker 2: on Thursdays at the Updated Injury Renews. This is where

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Speaker 2: it gets interesting because it's Thursday and speaking to reporters

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Speaker 2: after Thursday's practice, Jamar Chase, with the back injury, said

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Speaker 2: he's going to attempt to play in Weak Tennessee or

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Speaker 2: Week ten against the Texans.

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Speaker 3: Attempt little I read said he did very very little.

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Speaker 3: He was out there and it's a bad bruise, you know,

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Speaker 3: like everything hurts.

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Speaker 2: I can I can't imagine like the first time if

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Speaker 2: he does go out there and play the first time

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Speaker 2: he catches a comeback and takes one a.

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Speaker 3: Shot, Yeah, right, right, right back, it's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Feel real good, right right.

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Speaker 3: It's a great point. I mean, backs, as everyone knows,

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Speaker 3: no matter what you do, you feel it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you just can't loosen it up. And

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Speaker 2: you know then even if let's say he gets he

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Speaker 2: does get loose enough that he goes out there the

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Speaker 2: first series. Then they go sit down on the bench. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know and all of a sudden, the Titans

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Speaker 2: up on him and he's out.

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Speaker 3: Even know you're gonna get hit in the back. Yeah right,

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Speaker 3: it's a bruise. It's gonna get hit. So that that's dicey,

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Speaker 3: that's real dicey. I bet he's a true game time decision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Damian Pierce, with an ankle injury, remains sidelined Thursday for

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: Been a lot of good stuff around the Texans this year,

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Speaker 3: but not for Peers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not one of them.

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Speaker 3: Like, if you told me this is how the Texans

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Speaker 3: record is going to go, this is the points you're

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Speaker 3: going to score. Stroud's gonna be offensive rookie of the year.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I should draft Damian Pierce in the

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Speaker 3: second round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not so much work that way.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Drake London Uh, with a groin injury, it was officially

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Speaker 2: a full participant Thursday for the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 3: It's big. That makes a really good player, and you know,

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Speaker 3: their their offense makes me a little mad, but there

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Speaker 3: makes everybody made it does, but he was starting to

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Speaker 3: come on pretty well too, and actually have a facher.

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Speaker 2: Smith isn't concerned about your fans.

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Speaker 3: Not even a little bit. We're winning him on the

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Speaker 3: right back in your lineup though.

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Speaker 2: He's played well.

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Speaker 3: He's played well.

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Speaker 2: Uh and Mari de Marcado with the toe injury, remained

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Speaker 2: sidelined for Thursday's practice. James Connor, his window is activated yesterday,

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Speaker 2: but he was limited. I can't anger him. I guess

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Speaker 2: if is the guy if he's not that impressive, No,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know who else is even in

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Speaker 3: the mix has been okay yeah, I mean the week

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Speaker 3: after everybody picked him up, he did very little, But

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Speaker 3: since then he's been, you know, their best guy for

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Speaker 3: four Kyler's going to run a fair amount. I don't

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Speaker 3: that's a question to me too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just don't know. I don't know if any

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Speaker 3: of their backs, even if Connor gets activated, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I want him my lineup, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: Rashad Bay added to Thursday's injury report with a back

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Speaker 2: issue for the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Substantial. He's starting to play better, you know. I mean

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Speaker 3: they can obviously withstand it, but it's a big game.

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Speaker 2: Also added to Baltimore's Week eight in or Week ten

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Speaker 2: injury am I getting Week eight at Week ten injury report?

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Speaker 2: Keaton Mitchell everybody's hot pickup hamstring, hamstring.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's as you referred to him before we went,

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Speaker 3: he's a sports car. He's a Lamborghini. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: With the loose wheel. Yeah, don't drive the Lamborghini with

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Speaker 3: And those oil changes are expensive, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: but I picked him up in my other league. I

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Speaker 3: mean I was shocked that more people didn't go heavy.

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Speaker 3: what to do with that guy. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: he's in a good offense and can we winue the week?

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Speaker 3: Or you can be really mad you put him in

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Speaker 2: I think he's more of a DFS play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do too. I mean, is he going

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Speaker 3: to be a consistent receiver that I don't know the

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Speaker 2: They are they gonna throw the ball to their backs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that either. Yeah, he's intriguing, but

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Speaker 3: he's scary too volatile.

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Speaker 2: Di Mario Douglas with New England another little guy limited

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how much I trust him either.

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Speaker 3: I knew there was some buzz this past two weeks

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Speaker 3: or so, but I mean, he doesn't really move the

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Speaker 2: From me Ian Rapaport reporting T Higgins this is big.

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Speaker 2: With the hamstring injury, is expected to miss Week ten

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Speaker 2: against the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: So even if Chase plays doubled with a bad back, he.

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Speaker 2: Might be a decoy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be.

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Speaker 2: I mean Tyler Boyd. Tyler Boyd's not good at this

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Speaker 2: point in his career. No, but he might get twelve

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Speaker 3: Yeah, says irv Smith. Somebody you're interested in, Andre I

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Speaker 3: can Icevis. I think, yeah, you're saying it better than yeah.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he gets out there. I mean, Burrow has

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Speaker 3: to do a lot to elevate those guys. Though.

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Speaker 2: This is where like so next year when T Higgins

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Speaker 2: like if they if Chase misses games for them next,

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Speaker 2: that's like they don't really have anything else.

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Speaker 3: I don't look Boyd will be back either, right, I

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Speaker 3: mean at his age, I think their first und pick

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Speaker 2: It could be a receiver, but you wouldn't think.

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Speaker 3: No, no, they could lose two of their three and

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Speaker 3: then you gotta pay Chase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you got to do that. And so it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, t Higgins just when you thought he was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, something else. It's a different injury right before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was riche before. Now it's a hamstring, yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's problematic. Yeah, I mean I know it's a fantasy segment.

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Speaker 3: But Houston's playing well and they lose that game. The

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Speaker 3: AFC losses keep pounding up.

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery a full part pitting Thursday's practice for the

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Speaker 2: line fire right back up. He's got to get right

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Speaker 2: that he got, it'll be good. Honestly, if he doesn't,

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't get thirty carries, I'm okay. He was

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Speaker 2: getting over used early and that's you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean if he gets sixteen seventeen touches.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get quality touches.

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Speaker 2: And you're right, the Bears did not activate Khalil Herbert

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Speaker 2: ahead of tonight's contest against the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like probably next week.

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Speaker 2: Looks like Deontay Foreman is going to get a big

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Speaker 2: revenge game tonight against the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: That's a good start.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a huge start. He could get the one

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Speaker 2: hundred yards. Like if you were trying to decide, let's

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Speaker 2: say you go into this game. He got Chuba Hubbard

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Speaker 2: on one side of it and Deontay Foreman on the other. Foreman,

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Speaker 3: Neither one of these teams is gonna run away with

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Speaker 3: it and have to abandon the run. I mean, there

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Speaker 3: run the ball and you know, turn out long drives.

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Speaker 3: That's right up his alley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't believe there wasn't more. I understand it's

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Speaker 2: Deontay Forman. He's not dynamic, but he's an NFL runner.

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Speaker 3: He's a quality kind of disrespected in terms of contracts

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Speaker 3: and free agency and things like that. I mean an afterthought.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he plays teams, which doesn't help. That's

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Speaker 3: fun you know, he's he can carry the low.

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Speaker 2: He's a better version of Benny Snell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny about saying you'd like him to be

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Speaker 3: Nausey's strict back up. He'd be pretty Yeah. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: could do the nausey role for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Uh keithon Mitchell, we mentioned uh this. He

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Speaker 2: out and said he's earned more opportunities. This is why

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Speaker 2: people don't trust rookies because you just have no Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he didn't proak. You have no track record with these guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: hamstring sore. We don't know as a coach. Some guys

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Speaker 2: can play. That's that's just that's just Dave. Dave's always

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Speaker 2: banged up, and then he goes out and plays on

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Speaker 2: Sundays with young guys. You don't know, you don't have that, No,

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Speaker 3: Ham's ring matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh Tyrod Taylor said his rib injury is not

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Speaker 2: season ending in his mind. It might be in the

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Speaker 2: mind of the Giants. So so if they're in line

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Speaker 2: to get the first overall.

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Speaker 3: Pick, yeah, who knows. I mean it's gonna be. What

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Speaker 3: I take away from that I read that earlier too,

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Speaker 3: is that means he's not coming back anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's on IR so he can't. He can't come back.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got at least two more weeks.

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Speaker 3: He has two more games because Jones started last week

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Speaker 3: and the video's starting this week. So but it makes

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Speaker 3: it sound like he may not come off like that.

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Speaker 3: It might be a while. It might be week twelve

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Speaker 3: or a week, you know, fourteen or something.

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Speaker 2: TJ. Hawkinson he's gonna save the season. No, he's not

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Speaker 2: gonna save the season.

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Speaker 3: T J.

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Speaker 2: Hawkinson has a rib injury. He said he expects he

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Speaker 2: expects to play in Week ten against the Saints.

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Speaker 3: So I was offered I want to bring this value.

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Speaker 3: I was offered Hawkinson straight up for Laporta the other

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Speaker 3: day and one as I said no, but they're kind

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Speaker 3: of the same.

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Speaker 2: I might have taken that deal.

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Speaker 3: I mean Dobbs doesn't make me think, Nah, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to do with it. I mean, Hawkinson is a

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Speaker 3: with the better offense. Yeah, but I think that's about

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Speaker 3: I mean that in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: They're in that they're both in that tight end three

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Speaker 2: slash four, slash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the most important guy in that entire organization.

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Speaker 3: Against saying how much I'm worried about the Bengals losing,

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Speaker 2: So it'd be it would be Tank Dell, Robert Woods

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Speaker 3: No, he's he was a four six or four seven

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Speaker 2: Like who they who they played last week? They played Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: No, I think a lot of teams do.

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Speaker 3: He's a bulldog. He's a great blitzer, plays bigger.

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Speaker 3: It's also good for your boys, Shoultz.

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Speaker 2: Deonta Foreman.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, with a shoulder injury, is expected to practice

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Speaker 3: We're going Bill's Josh, Josh.

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Speaker 3: With that. Their running game is too much him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I mean, he's a big dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Sometimes that's their combine weight. It never changes, it never changes.

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Speaker 2: They're not that guy that was like Steve McClendon was

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Peter, he's.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you he wais three twenty.

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Speaker 3: He told me and folks a lot of you guys

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Speaker 2: You know, I know for a fact, James Ferrier went

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he also had a hard time keeping weight on right.

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Speaker 2: If you see James now, I mean he's probably two

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Speaker 3: That's his natural that's his natural weight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Deshaun Watson said his shoulder remains a work

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Speaker 3: That's a good defense. I mean, I asked you off

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Speaker 2: You just ignored quarterback this year across the board, didn't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I went in for like Richardson and Field. All

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Speaker 3: Picket the two dudes tonight That's who I'm comparing Watson

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Speaker 3: not want to start Watson. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: I try to make a tray Jay or Alexander still out.

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Speaker 2: I thought about it, but in those safeties, I might

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Speaker 3: Way if if I knew that he would run a

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Speaker 2: But if he throws for two thirty and maybe two touchdowns, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can live with that. That's probably better what Watson

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Speaker 3: I think Watson will have more rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: So is it gonna be enough though to offset like any.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and he might not finish the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm not over. I'm not like, oh, he played pretty

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Speaker 3: well last week, He's great. Start him again like it's

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Speaker 2: H Tyler Lockett limited in practice with a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 3: Smith the jig. But fire him up if he's out, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Keeps getting more and more more and the people that

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Speaker 3: I was about to say this or him and Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kJ Osborne is in concussion protocol and did not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe he you know, he's got to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Addison and Hawkinson no can hold on

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Speaker 2: Who they play? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Who do they have this week?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I think they're at home. I don't remember. We'll figure

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna have to go look.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta check it out. Yeah, So I feel

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Speaker 2: I should too, because I just looked at all that

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Speaker 2: stuff last night and usually remember those things, but not

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Speaker 2: tonight in a rough week. Let's see here. So Minnesota

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Speaker 3: Not an easy matchup. Yeah, good game though.

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Speaker 2: Anybody that you're interested in starting in tonight's game?

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Speaker 3: Foreman more?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big big Carolina revenge game here for the Bears.

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Speaker 3: Guys, I can't go with Badge and Comet.

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Comet's been good. Although if you're gonna go with

446
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,600
Speaker 2: more in Comet, why not bat He's gonna run, So

447
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,320
Speaker 2: somebody's you have to throw them the football and he's

448
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Speaker 2: gonna run.

449
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna have a terrible fantasy game.

450
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Speaker 3: I just they don't have burns. I don't know if

451
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Speaker 3: I think the Bears win this game tonight, I do too.

452
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Speaker 3: I think they're like four and a half point favorite. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 3: I mean not that they're great.

454
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,640
Speaker 2: So if you think they're going to win the game.

455
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Speaker 3: They're actually defense looked a little better last week too. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: I don't know because he's Tyler Badging. It's tough.

457
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Speaker 2: It's a tough thing to put a guy in Thursday

458
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Speaker 2: that you don't love.

459
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

460
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Speaker 2: If it doesn't work out, then you got to sit

461
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Speaker 2: there the rest of the weekend and stare at that

462
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 2: sixth that he put.

463
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Speaker 3: Two more days to make a trade or you know,

464
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Speaker 3: figure something out, or you know someone's.

465
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 2: Buys you some time.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, some one of my buddies is listening. They're gonna

467
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Speaker 3: get to offer me some terrible trade that I'll say no.

468
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Speaker 3: So I'm not jumping on either one of those guys tonight. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just punt for now and think about it.

470
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Speaker 3: Might be fine.

471
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Speaker 2: Would you start the Chicago defense tonight?

472
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Speaker 3: I was gonna think they're gonna win the game. I

473
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 3: know Monte Sweat isn't like Lawrence Taylor, but he helped

474
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Speaker 3: their problems. You know, you remember he's out there. What

475
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Speaker 3: about filing you start?

476
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Speaker 2: I think so, although last week, I don't think.

477
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Speaker 3: I want to start their backfield.

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know Johnny Mingo.

479
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Speaker 3: Reaching, I mean, what's you over under in the game

480
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Speaker 3: like thirty five? Yeah, I mean, it's not a lot

481
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Speaker 3: of fantasy.

482
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Speaker 2: But if that's the case, then you look at Okay,

483
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Speaker 2: do you start the defenses? Yeah, because it's gonna be

484
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Speaker 2: a low.

485
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Speaker 3: Scoring thought about it for the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you had to choice, it's bad.

487
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Speaker 3: It's a bad the week.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe kickers.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be fine. Where's the games?

490
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Speaker 2: It's in Chicago, Yeah.

491
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Speaker 3: It is. But okay, but.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the big game tonight.

493
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Speaker 3: Big yeah, stretch right, I mean, I wish we could

494
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Speaker 3: see fields at least.

495
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Speaker 2: This slate of primetime games this week.

496
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Speaker 3: Game of the Week is Giants Cowboys. It's sixteen.

497
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Speaker 2: The four thirty game is the Giants Cowboys. That's a

498
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Speaker 2: standalone at four thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

500
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and if you don't get that one, well

501
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: you get this one Washington at Seattle. Just please, please,

502
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Speaker 2: NFL take these NFC East teams off of our TVs

503
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 2: here in New York teams New York and then like,

504
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: come on, both New York.

505
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Speaker 3: Teams are getting way too much exposure. That's actually kind

506
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Speaker 3: of what I'm excited about tonight. Like, I'm not sure

507
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Speaker 3: I've watched the Carolina games start I live, I know,

508
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Speaker 3: I mean.

509
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Speaker 2: I've watched bits and pieces. I don't know if I've

510
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: watched a Bears game, Yeah, right, start to finish.

511
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like there these teams are in John

512
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: bought some of the young guys.

513
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Speaker 2: I might need a nap tonight. Anyways, that's gonna do

514
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Speaker 2: This today's question Onions Chat. This is the Thursday question.

548
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Speaker 2: Willie Parker or Barry Foster the longest run in a

549
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Speaker 2: Steelers game against the Packers.

550
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: Okay, see here's a Lifelesse. I think they're going to

551
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Speaker 3: try to trick you because everyone's going to think Willie

552
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Speaker 3: so fast it had to be him. Barry was really

553
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Speaker 3: really good and doesn't get maybe enough credit in steel

554
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: A running back lore because lev Parker obviously Franco badest,

555
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 3: you know, but Foster was the fifth pick in your

556
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 3: fantasy draft for quite a few years in a row.

557
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Speaker 3: I'm going with Barry Okay, I don't think of him

558
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Speaker 3: as home run speed, but boy he was productive.

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Speaker 2: That's solid thought process by you don't.

560
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Speaker 3: At least explain my answers. Try to trick us with Willie.

561
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Speaker 3: Put your rom there.

562
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Speaker 2: They did not put your own there. No, no taking

563
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Speaker 2: a look at this Green Bay Packers team, very very

564
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Speaker 2: young on offense.

565
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Speaker 3: Very very young.

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so looking at the offense at wide receiver, Christian Watson, second.

567
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Speaker 3: Year player, I'm a Watson fan.

568
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs, second year player.

569
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Speaker 3: I'm not a big Dobbs fan.

570
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 2: Jaden Reid rookie. Those guys are backed up by Malie

571
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Speaker 2: Keith and Dontavian Wicks, two rookies.

572
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're all three rookie receivers and two

573
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Speaker 3: rookie tight ends. All their pass catchers are second year

574
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Speaker 3: or less. I'd love to have Reid as a Steelers

575
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Speaker 3: third I think Watson is comparable to Pickens, but I

576
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Speaker 3: prefer Pickens. He's bigger, he's more physical. I think he's

577
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Speaker 3: more consistent Dubbs Dobbs. Dubbs to me is really a

578
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Speaker 3: four masquerading as a two. I'll give the Steelers a nod,

579
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Speaker 3: but there's a lot of those dudes I wish were

580
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Speaker 3: Alan Robinson replacements slash you know, in the middle.

581
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Speaker 2: That's what they should be. They shouldn't be ones and twos.

582
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: They should be two threes and fours.

583
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Speaker 3: Like if they could add I don't know T Higgins

584
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Speaker 3: in free agency because or you know someone like it's like, wow,

585
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: that's a nice receiver room.

586
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Yeah, none of them are true number ones.

587
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: No, Watson is dangerous, but he's not going to be

588
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: a target hog.

589
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just not a high volume game.

590
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

591
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Speaker 2: At tight end, you mentioned it's loose three rookie tight ends.

592
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Speaker 3: It isn't crazy. They drafted too high.

593
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: And you never like that's a position. And we've talked

594
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Speaker 2: about this in the past, like you don't hit your

595
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Speaker 2: mature You don't mature as a tight end till you're

596
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Speaker 2: like twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when you hit your peak. I do think

598
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Speaker 3: rookie tight ends is more of a fantasy. Note are

599
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Speaker 3: becoming more startable relevant than they.

600
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Speaker 2: Usually in fantasy. Yeah, in real life.

601
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Speaker 3: Depends if you want to block, and yeah, the tight end.

602
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Speaker 2: When you're asking them to do real tight end stuff

603
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Speaker 2: like block guys, who are you know, When you're asking

604
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Speaker 2: a twenty one year old or a twenty two year

605
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Speaker 2: old to block a twenty eight year old man, it's

606
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Speaker 2: a little different.

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Speaker 3: So Musgrave, I'm a big believer in He was my

608
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Speaker 3: second favorite, and when we do our stuff with Mike

609
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Speaker 3: Pursuer and all that, he was number two on my

610
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Speaker 3: tight end list in a really really good tight end class.

611
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Speaker 3: So for this game, I went their tight ends. I mean,

612
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Speaker 3: Friar moves not in the mix.

613
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Speaker 2: But it's Luke musk Grave, it's Tucker Craft, Ben Simms.

614
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Speaker 2: I'm going with the Steelers. I'm sorry, I'll tell I mean,

615
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Speaker 2: I'll take none of these guys. Is the blocker the

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Speaker 2: darnown Washington.

617
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, they're not.

618
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Speaker 2: Uh And this is a team that wants to run

619
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Speaker 2: the football. There's a reason why they have to play

620
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Speaker 2: six offensive linemen at times.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean they don't have a blocker.

622
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Speaker 2: So when you do that, you're taking you're taking a

623
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Speaker 2: weapon off the field to bring in a guy you

624
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: might as well scream from the mountaintops. Hey, we're gonna

625
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Speaker 2: run the ball here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If Washington had shown me more as a receiver

627
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Speaker 3: or used more as a receiver, I'd be with you.

628
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Speaker 3: I don't love where the Steelers are at tight end

629
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Speaker 3: wise because Hayward and Washington are just so different. Neither

630
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Speaker 3: one of these guys is either like either one of

631
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Speaker 3: those guys, you know what I mean? And I like

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Speaker 3: I like after Luck coming out too.

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00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: I hear you.

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00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of youth. I mean they're up there.

635
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 3: Heyward's the old man of the group, second year. Yeah.

636
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Speaker 2: Uh. On the offensive line, Josh Neeman at left tackle,

637
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: Elkton Jenkins at left guard, Josh Myers at center, John

638
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: Runyon at right guard, and the only guy who's not

639
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: on the injury at lift report this week, Zach Tom

640
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Speaker 2: at right tackle.

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Speaker 3: Tom's a really good solid I think I said that's here.

642
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Speaker 3: But this is a team that kind of reminds me

643
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Speaker 3: of mid round Steeler wide receiver development. They do a

644
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Speaker 3: great job of taking second to fourth round offensive lineman

645
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 3: and developing them. I don't know who their O line

646
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: coach is, but he does a good job. Zach Tom's

647
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: like the perfect example there. What's the depth like though,

648
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: if they're short on a couple of these guys, I'm

649
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: just I should know that.

650
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 2: I at left tackle, I assume that they would move

651
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: Jenkins out, but probably Rashid Walker. The Penn State guy

652
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: who's a seventh rounder behind Jenkins at guard is Royce Newman.

653
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: Then you have Sean Ryan as the other backup on

654
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: the interior, and then Caleb Jones as the other offensive tackle.

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00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: These guys are all like everybody in the bench, drafted

656
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: in twenty two. Nieman and Walker's Newman was drafted in

657
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: twenty one. Sean Ryan drafted in twenty two. Caleb Jones

658
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: is a college free agent in twenty twenty two. Like,

659
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: they just don't have any.

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Speaker 3: I mean, especially considering the injury report. And I assume

661
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: Jones is now a starter for the Steelers, and I

662
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: think the Steelers guards are playing what we expected from them. Yeah,

663
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Speaker 3: I'll go with the Steelers line here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenkins is the old man for them.

665
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: He was drafted in nineteen, I know, Yeah, he's our

666
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: best guy. He's a veteran and I don't know what

667
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: they ever counted on Backtiri, but I mean he's also

668
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: on the team getting a check. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

669
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: it's been two or three years now that he's not

670
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: been thurrible at quarterback.

671
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 2: It's Jordan Love. It's backed up by This is just

672
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: Sean Clifford. Clifford, oh my god.

673
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I couldn't believe he was drafted. He actually had

674
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: a good preseason. I think he's terrible. I would rather

675
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: felt thought he was terrible. Yeah, I mean I'd rather

676
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: have Picket than Love. He'd much rather have Trubisky Rudolph

677
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: than the backup.

678
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: That's like slam dunk.

679
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean they both have really bad accuracy

680
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: numbers Pickett and Love. Love's a better runner, but Pickett's

681
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: not hurting the team with bad stuff.

682
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: Eight interceptions and four fumbles, like twelve turnover turnover. Yeah,

683
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: that's not good.

684
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: That's not He's in all in like the last five games. Yeah,

685
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: you weren't the first two games when he was barely pressured.

686
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: At running back. It's Aaron Jones, AJ Dillon and Emmanuel Wilson.

687
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: I think Dylan shot. I mean, if you watch him

688
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: whenever Jones out of the lineup, I think he's shot.

689
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: But Jones, I think is a star and has been

690
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: a little underrated and is as good as he's been

691
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: all season. So I'm going to give the Packers a

692
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: slight nod.

693
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: I think it's a wash.

694
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: It's pretty close.

695
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: I think it's a wash. I mean, I think Jones four,

696
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: I think if ye, I think if we were ranking them,

697
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: I think Jones would probably be number when probably he

698
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: would be one, right and then before the Steelers next

699
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: to the Steelers, guys will be the next two, and

700
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: then there's a gap.

701
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: So it's real close. But I'll take the star.

702
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, with uh, I think you know,

703
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: we could see something out of Anthony McFarland this week.

704
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little intrigued with that too. Yeah, and

705
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: if he's out there for ten snaps or just.

706
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: The speed factor, the yeah, full bought. If they actually

707
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: have a fullback on the roster, they're one of the

708
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: few teams does that's a Josiah Diguara.

709
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. They drafted him the year their strange draft year

710
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: that was love Dylan Deguara and no one really knew.

711
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: Who drafted a full back in a third round.

712
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 3: They think he's used check, I mean, like when he

713
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: came out of Cincinnati, is he a tight end. Is

714
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: he a full back? He's not as good as you Yeah,

715
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: no doubt.

716
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: Looking at the defense, and this is where the injuries

717
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: are really kind of and.

718
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: This is where the draft picks are, but they're not

719
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: getting enough out of the dudes.

720
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: Left defensive end is Kenny Clark nose tackles, TJ. Slayton,

721
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: You got Devonte Wyatt at the right defensive end, and

722
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: then Rashaun Gary at left out.

723
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: I say, I think they listed as a three.

724
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: They listed as a three four. Okay, so we'll just

725
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: say that the three interior guys are Kenny Clark, TJ. Slayton,

726
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: and Devonte Wyatt. Two of those guys are first round

727
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: draft picks. Davante Wyatt has done nothing.

728
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was overdrafted to that was a

729
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: bad defensive tackle class. You'll see Clark play a lot

730
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: of no's as well. I mean, he's kind of the

731
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: modern day pass rushing nose, but he's not healthy. You know.

732
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: Ideally their front four has Wyatt and Clark as the

733
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: two d tackles. You know who the that's guys.

734
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Uh, Colby Wooden and Carl Brooks.

735
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: Carl Brooks has played pretty well, got.

736
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: Five three hundred pounders on the roster run.

737
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: Remember remember Brooks, he was the mac kid that and.

738
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: He's not even a true three hundred pounder. He was like,

739
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: he played like.

740
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: He played as a stand up guy even at times.

741
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: He's a perfect example of I bet he's heavier now

742
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: than he was at the Combine, especially with Clark's injury

743
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: and Cam back. I got to give it to the Steelers.

744
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: I mean, with Benton playing as well as he has, Yeah.

745
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: By a lot, by a lot.

746
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Clark's really good, but he's not one hund percent either. Yeah,

747
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: and Wyatt would be low on the draft list. I mean,

748
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: like if we were drafting those duo better than I mean,

749
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: if they're all healthy and right, which of course nobody is,

750
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: I would go Hayward Clark, Benton, Ogan, joe By Wyatt. Yeah,

751
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: I mean I put Benton over ogn Jobey.

752
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Edge dude, and Edge guys. It's for Seawan

753
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Gary uh and Preston Smith. You got backing those guys up.

754
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Lucas van Ness's their first round draft pick. And then

755
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: on the other side you got Deck Kingsley Ingbari.

756
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a rookie out of South Carolina. They like

757
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: that group's really good.

758
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: Is the second year guy?

759
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: Second year guy? Okay, yeah, they're all rookies or second

760
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 3: year guys. I could probably just say that and they

761
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: say he's young.

762
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: And it's even that way in their defense really, so

763
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot of backups.

764
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: That are their defensive coordinator is highly disliked by Packer Nation.

765
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: And a big thing is those edge dudes, which happens

766
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: to every team, but they're in coverage a lot more

767
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: than you want. Yeah, and like Preston Smith's like two

768
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: and seventy pounds.

769
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he shouldn't be dropping in the coverage.

770
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: Against slot receivers and whatnot. The Steelers edges are better,

771
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: but that's a good edge room. I mean, van ness

772
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: is still working progress.

773
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: But there's a reason why people run against this team

774
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: because that defensive line isn't great.

775
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if that's going to change it because

776
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: if we get the secondary, their secondary is bad, it's bad.

777
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: It might be time to throw against his team.

778
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: It might be Yeah, looking at those cornerbacks.

779
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 3: How about the off of ball linebacker?

780
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: Oh off? But yeah, that's right. So Kuai Walker's hurt.

781
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to conclude him in this because.

782
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: They would definitely win with Campbell and Walker.

783
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got Devondre Campbell and will they start

784
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: they I can't. I don't know who they started last week,

785
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: Eric Wilson or Isaah McDuffie.

786
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: I should know that and I don't or either way.

787
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, two guys who've not been to my in my kitchen.

788
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Campbell's definitely won, including Hulcombe. Yeah, Campbell's very very good.

789
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: Kway Walker I think's really promising. I don't think he's

790
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: gonna play. I don't know how you weigh that. I mean,

791
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: if Hulcomb was in the mix, you'd definitely take those

792
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: three over Campbell.

793
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

794
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: Do you take those two over Campbell and someone that's

795
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: never been in our kitchen? Yeah?

796
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: I mean McDuffie's a twenty twenty one six round draft pick,

797
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: and they got Wilson off the practice squad in New Orleans.

798
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 3: I think Oka, I don't know anythingbody else. Two dudes,

799
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: So it's kind of a wash.

800
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible at cornerback, Carrington Valentine, it's kind of this

801
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: is interesting. So it's Carrington Valentine at left cornerback, backed

802
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: up by Corey Valentine.

803
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: Nice. That's phenomenal.

804
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Valentine, he's seventh round rookie this year.

805
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 3: They seem to like him.

806
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I kind of liked him in the

807
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: drafty small.

808
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: Right, I think he'll play slot too. Yeah.

809
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: Uh. And then on the other side, well, well we

810
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: assume I don't know Jerry or Alexander hasn't practiced this week.

811
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 2: If he doesn't play, then it's Robert Rochelle. And they've

812
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: only got four corners on their roster here, and then

813
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: a nickel. The nickel is Keshawn Nixon they got from Vegas.

814
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: He's the return guy, though. I think they're trying to

815
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: find out a nickel with Douglas being traded, and Nixon's

816
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: like Devin Hester, like, he's so talented, he's with on

817
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: his hands, but he's not a corner. He's not a receiver.

818
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: He's he's a return guy.

819
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

820
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: They have Stokes too, writers he hurt.

821
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: Stokes is hurt.

822
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Alexander. If Alexander was in, I think i'd

823
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: give it to them because he's really good and he's proven.

824
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: That's not a great group.

825
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: It's a secondary is really bad. Yeah, I'm gonna give

826
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: it the Steelers. Porter's pretty strong.

827
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, then it's safety. It's Jonathan Owens, it's strong safety,

828
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: Rudy Ford who's injured at free safety. Anthony Johnson Junior

829
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: is the I don't know who senior was, but Junior

830
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: is the backup free safety I would assume. So you

831
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: also have Dyalon Levitt and Zane Anderson.

832
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: As mentioned, some folks out there think that's the worst

833
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: position room in the entire NFL.

834
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: Again, that why people are running and if your safeties

835
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: aren't good, like.

836
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: You can Yeah. No, the more I think about it,

837
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: I mean, their pass rush is a little scary. Maybe

838
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: that's why. Maybe it's the nature of the teams they've

839
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 3: played too, because I had a lot of bad eames,

840
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: But you can throw it on their cover guys. Even

841
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: if Alexander's out there.

842
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: I just don't see a lot there to fear.

843
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Savage's story, he's reports okay. I

844
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: mean he doesn't like to tackle either, but he's a

845
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: good player, has been a good player.

846
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: Control control Clark and Gary up front.

847
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't see Johnson and Pickens having a

848
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: lot of problems unless Alexander's playing, and then the other

849
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: one should have a lot of freedom.

850
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: I mean Preston Smith was good as a two. Yeah,

851
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: he's fine, but he's not that anymore. Noah, Yeah, but

852
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: he's not a star. I mean, ideally, he'd liked him

853
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 2: to be your three, which.

854
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: Is why they draft the van Ness. Yeah, you know,

855
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: they invested in Gary. I think Smith's a free agency.

856
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: Problem is Smith makes too much money to be your three.

857
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think he's up for next year though, Yeah,

858
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: I mean they'll use him up this year. Hopefully van

859
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: Ness is your opposite Gary. But in the meantime it's

860
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: it's good. I mean, their edge guys are the best dudes.

861
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: Clark and Alexander are good player. Yeah, but their filler

862
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: is second linebackers, safeties.

863
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: Just no depth here.

864
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: Now, there's no depth here, and they've drafted first round

865
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: pick after first round pick on defense. There should be better,

866
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: it should be better.

867
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get I mean, I'm just looking at that.

868
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: Like again, a ton of rookies on this team, A.

869
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: Ton of rookies and a lot of secondary guys.

870
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

871
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: So and the whole receiving course, yeah, first and second

872
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: year players.

873
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: Interesting. Anyways, we're gonna get to a break. He is

874
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the

875
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. That was the Packers' roster,

876
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: their depth chart, and uh well we'll be back to

877
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Speaker 2: finish up the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right after this.

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt at just looking here at some stats on

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. Here's their run defense thus far

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Speaker 2: this year. What they've given up one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: two yards in the opener to the Bears. And remember

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields was not running though in Week one, didn't

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Speaker 2: run the ball at all in Week one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were trying to make them pass. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Week two against Atlanta two hundred and eleven rushing.

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Speaker 3: Yards, that's what Atlanta does.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, right, Week three against the Saints, the Saints

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Speaker 2: had seventy seven rushing yards. But remember no Kamara at

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Speaker 2: that point.

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Speaker 3: And they weren't even using Taysom Hill much. We're throwing

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Speaker 3: right right right.

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Speaker 2: Week four against Detroit, two hundred and eleven rushing yards

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Speaker 2: a lot, so two hundred eleven yards rushing efforts in

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Speaker 2: the first four weeks. Week five against the Raiders, they

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Speaker 2: gave up ninety six rushing yards. And if you remember

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Speaker 2: Jacobs was really struggling early in the season.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Then they had their bye, they come out of their by,

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Speaker 2: they played Denver, they gave up one hundred and four

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Speaker 2: forty five rushing years.

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Speaker 3: Started to look good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The last two weeks. They played Minnesota two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: gave up sixty two rushing yards. The Vikings ever run

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Speaker 2: the ball.

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Speaker 3: On anybody more than anybody in the league.

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Speaker 2: Again, yeah, lowest rushing totals in the league. And then

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Speaker 2: last week they played the Rams and gave up sixty

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Speaker 2: eight rushing yards. And the Rams didn't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: The didn't have a quarterback. They didn't give up anything

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Speaker 3: and run or pass.

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Speaker 2: So they're run numbers overall are.

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Speaker 3: Aren't awful, right, But there's a couple of bad games.

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Speaker 2: There's some games in there you look at it and

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Speaker 2: you go, oh, okay, there might be some extenuating circumstances

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Speaker 2: about why these particular teams didn't run the ball against them.

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Speaker 2: But teams that have run the football, have run the

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Speaker 2: football against them.

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Speaker 3: And one thing I do know. One of the criticisms

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Speaker 3: of their decordinator, and I don't know, I haven't done

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Speaker 3: a deep dive on Green Bays defense coordinator Barry Joe Berry,

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Speaker 3: is that a lot of strange front seven alignments, Like

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Speaker 3: he'll do some things that most people don't that are

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Speaker 3: really unorthodox if you really look at like nose shape

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Speaker 3: and where exactly they line up and things like that.

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Speaker 3: So when it gets bad, I think it gets bad. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: So something to note. I mean, I bet the Steelers

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Speaker 3: come out run the ball.

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Speaker 2: I bet they run the ball effectively against these guys,

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Speaker 2: even though they're only allowing four yards per carry. Some

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Speaker 2: of that might be bolstered by some of these other

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Speaker 2: Like you probably did pretty good against the Saints in that.

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Speaker 3: Game, and you know you ran through the teams Like

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Speaker 3: there's some decent backs there, don't get me wrong, But

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Speaker 3: who are the explosive, big playbacks that would screw up

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Speaker 3: your yards per carry? Like there's not an atn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that like that that game against Detroit,

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Speaker 2: let me just call it up here. I'm thinking that

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Speaker 2: was a big Montgomery game.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking Atlanta. I think Bejeon had a nice game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Montgomery had Montgomery he had three rushing touchdowns, and

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Speaker 2: I think that was just like thirty carries for you know,

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Speaker 2: a goo jillian yard. I think, yeah, he had thirty

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Speaker 2: two carries for one hundred and twenty one yards, but

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Speaker 2: none are long and gives Gibbs had eight for forty.

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Speaker 2: They got a forty yard run out of Khalif raymond

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Speaker 2: on An in the round that's worth noting. Uh, and

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Speaker 2: then Golf only had ten yards rushing, so I mean

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Speaker 2: they ground that that sucker out thirty two for one

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Speaker 2: one by Montgomery.

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking about the yards per carry stuff,

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Speaker 3: and that's a perfect example. You know, you're only getting

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Speaker 3: a four yards per carry.

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Speaker 2: That sounds you weren't getting off the field if he

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Speaker 2: got thirty two car and.

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Speaker 3: You're getting bludgeon yea. And their depth isn't good, as

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Speaker 3: we just talked about in the front seven, you can't

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Speaker 3: just keep rotating dudes in. And the more I think

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Speaker 3: about it, too, some of the least running quarterbacks in

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Speaker 3: the league, car Cousins weren't adding anything like that. End

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Speaker 3: a rounds nice, but like non running back rushing especially

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Speaker 3: if Fields wasn't in his prime or running a lot,

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Speaker 3: which he wasn't at that point. The rams were a

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Speaker 3: disaster last week. But you know, Cousins car there was

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Speaker 3: another one that's just a pure pocket passer golf golf. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the guys that don't run at all.

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Speaker 2: That game against the Falcons, Ritter had ten attempts for

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Speaker 2: only thirty nine yards. I assume there's some kneel downs

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Speaker 2: in there they lost. Maybe maybe Bijeon had nineteen for

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Speaker 2: one to twenty four, Tyler Lger sixteen for forty eight.

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Speaker 2: If they gave the ball to Bijeon more in that game,

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith, I'm assuming he gets, Yeah, he gets you know,

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Speaker 2: he goes over one fifty if he gets twenty five

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Speaker 2: carries in that game.

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Speaker 3: Especially if Clark's not himself too. And I think you

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Speaker 3: can run on these guys, yeah, I just And what

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Speaker 3: I don't know is how do they choose to play football?

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Speaker 3: You know, like vi Vic Fangio will play a lot

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Speaker 3: of cover four light boxes. Yeah, he bites the run.

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Speaker 3: Do these guys do that? I don't know that for certain,

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Speaker 3: but I lean towards yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: They What do they come out and play in when

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Speaker 2: the Steelers are in their eleven personnel when they probably

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Speaker 2: go Nickel.

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Speaker 3: Probably go Nickel. They might go Dime considering the state

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Speaker 3: of their linebackers. If you know kay Walker was they

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Speaker 3: gave Campbell big money and then you draft kuay Walker

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Speaker 3: in the first round. You want those guys to be

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Speaker 3: your Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowm and never leave the field.

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Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmund Uh you know those you know, the guys

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Speaker 3: that never leave the field. Now you only go one

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Speaker 3: good linebacker. Though, maybe you want to play dime, but

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Speaker 3: your defensive.

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Speaker 2: Backs are so weak, Yeah, pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: So I think you want them to play doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: you don't run, but I don't want them to play

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Speaker 3: lighter people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what Tennis.

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Speaker 2: That's what Tennessee did against the Steelers last week, and

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Speaker 2: it played right into there. Okay, we're gonna go you're

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Speaker 2: gonna play eleven personnel, We're gonna go Nickel, and the

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Speaker 2: Steelers was just running against them at will Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So now I don't I mean, if they're if

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Speaker 3: their defense has a big game, it's probably their edge, dudes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably their front that has the wins

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Speaker 3: at the line. Of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: But I want to see more of these power downhill

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Speaker 2: runs from the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe even them, Yeah right, yeah, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you know, yeah, eleven's fine.

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Speaker 3: If you're going against Nickel or if you get dime

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Speaker 3: against eleven, I'm definitely running on. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that'll be something to keep an eye on throughout

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Speaker 2: this course of this game. But Steelers got to get

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Speaker 2: off to a quick start again. That game is at

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Speaker 2: one o'clock on Sunday, so we'll see if that that

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Speaker 2: happens for him, that they can get to six and

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Speaker 2: three shitting pretty going into a two key games in

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Speaker 2: the North. So anyways, that's going to do it for

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Speaker 2: our show today, So for my partner Matt Williams, and

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Speaker 2: we also want to thank the Lord of living in

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Speaker 2: his fears, Bob Labriola for stopping by and of course

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Speaker 2: Justin Miller for keeping the show on the rails here,

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Speaker 2: keeping us on the air, And we want to thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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