1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Dave's here in spirit, so it's short stuff. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Let's get it started. I know we've talked about whether 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: or not you have skied, divn doved, dived, Yes, all 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: of them, and I think that you have right. Didn't 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: you do a tandem? John? I did one time, and uh, 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: it was I think I said before, and I'll say 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: it again, I blacked out at first, like second or 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: two out of just yes, I've never blacked out from 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: terror before, but I did that time. Uh. And overall, 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: you did it and you were okay with it? Or 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: were you When you got to the bottom you were 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: like that was actually all oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes absolutely, 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't do it again. There was a period 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: where I would have and then you was like, no, 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: I've done it too. We've both done it. Let's just 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: leave it at that and not breasts our luck. Yeah. 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: I still have not, and I was thinking about it 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: today and I'm not scared too or anything. I don't 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: have a problem with heights. I think it could be fun. 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: But I'm also just kind of like, now if I 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: bother there's a lot at stake. Now, well, yeah, that's yeah, 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: that's one of those like early twentysomething thing that's when 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: it's best to do. But then there's plenty of people 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: who are like, I'm a middle aged guy, I'd ever 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: been doing it forever. The key is to never jump 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: one thousand times. You just need to jump nine times 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: and just stop right there. Apparently, yeah, because if you 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: ask Ron Bell, who is a certified usp A United 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: States Parachute Association member, I guess I don't know what 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: they're called. Dude, Uh, do your jumper. He's made thirteen 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: thousand jumps and had fourteen mouth functions, and he said 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: that's about on target, about one in a thousand jumps. 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Something could go wrong. But part of the reason for 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: this episode is that doesn't mean certain death just because 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: there is a malfunction. No, there's a lot of ways 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: that your parent shoot malfunction um, and it basically has 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: everything to do with your shoot not deploying correctly, which 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: the appropriate, appropriate thing to say when your shoot doesn't 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: come out is shoot, oh shoot, you know, terrible, thanks. 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: But the problem, so you're going about a hundred and 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: twenty miles an hour just to put this into perspective. 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: By the way, it's terminal velocity after falling for twelve seconds. 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: A human being won't travel faster than that, no matter 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: how far they're falling. Charlie Cheen taught us all that 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: totally did back in the nineties. So you imagine how 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: much cocaine he was on when he was filming that movie. 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: It must have been like literally mind boggling. So you're 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: traveling a hundred twenty miles an hour straight towards the 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Earth and your shoot doesn't go out as it should, 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of different things that can happen 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: with a what's called a partial mauthfunction, and a partial 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: malfunction means the shoot tries to deploy, but something happens 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: to keep it from deploying correctly. Absolutely so, Um, there's 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: typically like something like your line getting messed up, where 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: the shoot comes out okay, but the two sets of 57 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: lines on either side of the shoot, UM might get 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: kind of wound up. Kind of like how when you 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: were a kid and you spun around on a swing 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: set that chained would would twist up ahead of you 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: above you. That same thing frequently can happen when you're parachuting. Um. Fortunately, 62 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of easy to do. You just kind of 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: twist the other way and it'll untwist, just like with 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: the the swing set. The key though, is to not 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: go out of your mind with fear and forget how 66 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: to turn one way or the other. Yeah, I think 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: don't panic is the number one role of all of 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: the stuff. Was that a hitchhiker's guide reference, I mean, yeah, 69 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: plus general life. As long as it was in there somewhere, 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: it's good. Yes, that's called the line twist. The other 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: partial malfunction is known as a line over, which means 72 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: that your shoot tries to deploy, it maybe does deploy, 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: but one of the lines has crossed over where the 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: shoot is, and so the shoot is sort of you know, 75 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: if you can imagine a parachute with one of the 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: lines kind of running through it instead of where it 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: should be, which is dangling down from it, then you've 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: got a parachute that's sort of working but not like 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: it should now. And that can be a real problem 80 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: when your main shoot doesn't open. But luckily people who 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: jumped out of planes plenty of times have figured out 82 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: that it might help if you have a second shoot 83 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk all about that second shoot and 84 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: how it probably will save your life after this message. 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: Wit you think it sounds great, Well, now we're on 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: the road, driving in your truck. Want to learn a 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: thing or two from Josh can Chuck. It's stuff you 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: should know, all right, Okay, Charles? So, Um, your main 89 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: shoot is deployed and not functioning. Either you've got a 90 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: line cross that won't undo, you've got a line over, 91 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: or in some cases, your shoot just hasn't deployed at all. 92 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: What do you do, big shot? What do you do? Well, 93 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: that's called a total malfunction. If your shoot just doesn't 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: come out or doesn't open at all, it's a complete failure. Uh, 95 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: you have a reserve shoot. You've always got another one 96 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: in there. And the good news is that any old 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: well I don't know any old because I'm sure they 98 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: make sure the most experienced parachuters pack that main shoot 99 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: wherever you're going. But you do not have to be 100 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: a certified f a A operator to pack that main shoot. 101 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: You do have to be that to pack that reserve 102 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: shoot though, right, which is like an extra level of 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: protection because those people are very sober, they know what 104 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: they're doing no nonsense. Crew cuts, every last one of them, 105 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: and they they will pack your reserve shoot very very well. 106 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: The thing is, if your reserve shoot doesn't open, this 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: article points it out pretty plainly. God wanted you dead. 108 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Your number was Yeah, I mean, reserves are not supposed 109 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: to fail because they are the redundancy. But um, it 110 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: can be a manufacturing mistake. Um. Whereas the chances of 111 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: the reality is when your other, your main shoot fails, 112 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: it could just be that it was packed wrong, or 113 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: that you came out of the plane funny in your 114 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: body is at a weird angle, and it sounds kind 115 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: of funny to say, but if you are going to 116 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: have a parachute malfunction rather than a line over a 117 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: lying cross, you are actually better off if your main 118 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: shoot doesn't deploy at all, because that cuts down on 119 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: the chance of your reserve shoot getting tangled with your 120 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: main and shoot. So if you're gonna have to use 121 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: your reserve shoot, it's better if the main shoot isn't deployed. 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: But if you're worried or whatever and your main shoot 123 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: is not working, don't hesitate to deploy that reserve shoot. 124 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Just go ahead and use it. That's what it's there for. 125 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: That's right. In this house stuff Works article, Bell is 126 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: quoted as saying, when in doubt, whip it out. That 127 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: is so Bell. That is so Bell, So ted nugent too. 128 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: We Um. We had a guy put in floors at 129 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: our house once and he was a naked skuy diver. 130 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: And he said, and he said one time he got 131 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: blown off course. And this guy was not There was 132 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: nothing that about him that made you say, like, yeah, 133 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, I bet you were a pretty handsome naked 134 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: guy diver like he was. Whatever. The point is. The 135 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: point is, um, he was blown off course once and 136 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: he had to hitch a ride back naked except for 137 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: his parachute. What's the point. I don't I don't get 138 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: the naked sky up. He said, it was very Um, 139 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: it was a very freeing sensation. You can imagine. I mean, 140 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: that's what they say about being naked doing anything right. 141 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: This is like wind whipping past your gentalia. Your gentalia. Yeah, 142 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: it's like s'mores. It's a contraction. Uh So. The other 143 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: good thing about um the fail safe these days is 144 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: that if you, let's say, you go out of like 145 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: you blacked out Let's say you didn't regain consciousness and 146 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: you weren't doing a tandem jump, and all of a sudden, 147 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Josh Clark is just hurtling to the ground passed out. UM, 148 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: you will probably still be okay because these days they 149 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: have UM these modern devices called automatic activation devices a 150 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: A d S, and they use computerized sensors that basically say, hey, 151 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: if you're falling below one thousand feet and you're going 152 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: at least seventy eight miles per hour, then something's wrong 153 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna automatically deploy the backup parachute, 154 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: this little computerized thing. So it's like you said, there, 155 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: there's like, it's not a death sentence. If your shoot 156 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: doesn't open. There's a lot of ways that you can 157 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: resolve this. But there are some instances where your shoot 158 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: just doesn't open. UM. What's crazy is is that people 159 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: die from those very infrequently, UM or I should say, 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: taking into account all jumps, there are very few people 161 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: who die parachuting. UM. I think in two thousand, UM 162 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: thirty two people died out of two point seven million 163 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: skydive jumps, and then in just eleven out of two 164 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: point eight million died, and that's not taking into account 165 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: people who actually have survived these things where the their 166 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: parachutes just didn't deploy and they hit the ground and 167 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: they actually live, which does happen from time to time. Yeah, 168 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: And I guess just some back of the envelope math 169 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: which I'll probably get wrong if Bell is correct, and 170 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: that about one in a thousand have some sort of 171 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: partial malfunction at least, that would mean out of those 172 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: two point eight million total jumps, there were about hundred 173 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: mouth functions and only eleven deaths. Still, Yeah, so if 174 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: you had, if you had, I think you're right, you 175 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: know me and math too, So that's that was impressive. 176 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: Now that one's pretty straightforward, I think. So out of 177 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: there ish malfunctions, there were only eleven death so your 178 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: chances of surviving a malfunction are still really really great. Yeah. 179 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: So there were a couple of people um that kind 180 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: of famously survived. There was a woman named Victoria's Sillers 181 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: whose nefarious evil husband tampered with her parachute to kill her, 182 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: and she survived a drop from four thousand feet. A 183 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: few years what happened to him? He went to prison. 184 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: A guy named Michael Holmes jumped to two miles three 185 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: point two kilometers. That's how far he dropped to the 186 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: earth without his shote deploying. But he happened to land 187 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: in some BlackBerry bushes and he lived. Um, are you 188 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: do feel bad for the BlackBerry bushes? No? I thought 189 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: that was a very sweet nice And I'm just picturing 190 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: this person landing and reaching over and picking a BlackBerry. 191 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: And for some reason that all sounded like you were sympathizing, 192 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: like what the BlackBerry bushes? Do you deserve that? And now, 193 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: of course this guy is probably listening. He's like, yeah, 194 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: ad a BlackBerry with my stomach collapse. Right. But then 195 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: the queen of all this chuck, the Queen Champion, was 196 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: a woman named Vesna Vulovich, who in nineteen seventy two 197 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: was a flight attendant on board the Yugoslav air flight 198 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: that they suspect had a bomb. At any case, it 199 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: came apart at thirty three thousand feet and she kept 200 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: in the tail pinned between the wall or the back 201 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: of the tail or the back of the plane and 202 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: a service cart, dropped thirty three thousand feet out of 203 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: the air and survived. Wow, isn't that crazy. Wow, that 204 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: is Yeah, that's startling. Can you imagine like her just shakily, 205 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: like putting a cigarette in her mouth and like walking 206 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: away from the landing. Because this was Yugoslavi in n 207 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: there's a hundred and ten percent chance that she smoked cigarettes. Yes, 208 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: of course, unfiltered. You've got anything else, man, I got 209 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: nothing else to pull that shoot, whip it out and 210 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: when it doesn't work for sure to say shoot, well 211 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: that's it for short stuff every pay we're out. Stuff 212 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: you should know is a production of iHeart Radio. 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