WEBVTT - King & Lin Strong Meet World

0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I always look like I just rolled out of bed,

0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and I there's people like, like you said, Rider, like

0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the bad head hair is like people try to achieve

0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:32.280
<v Speaker 1>that look. I literally just do nothing. So I'm glad

0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:33.240
<v Speaker 1>of that actual look.

0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I shower, but I.

0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Shower because I work out. Showering used to be a

0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:36.879
<v Speaker 1>much bigger thing.

0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So when you say do nothing, mean actually I

0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:41.479
<v Speaker 3>take a shower.

0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but then I just dry my hair with

0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a towel and I don't like put anything in my

0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>hair or comb my hair or do it.

0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.040
<v Speaker 3>The definition of doing nothing is very different than mine.

0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Like if I literally getting out of bed and doing nothing,

0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I am doing nothing.

0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so no, I showering used to be a

0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.920
<v Speaker 1>much bigger thing in my life. Now it's just rinsing off,

0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.480
<v Speaker 1>which is just like the worst thing ever. Like what's

0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the point because it's with the pointless The showers should

0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.360
<v Speaker 1>take forty five to fifty minutes, you should read it.

0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:09.800
<v Speaker 1>It should be relaxing so much.

0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.760
<v Speaker 2>That's why that doesn't do it. That's why I'm angry.

0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Now take exactly well, it was more than one cigarette,

0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and my two showers now take a total of like

0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.520
<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes for both showers and it's just the worst.

0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.759
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm always in this mood now too, because

0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the full shower anymore. I don't have

0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.760
<v Speaker 1>an experience of being back in the womb, which is

0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:32.479
<v Speaker 1>what I think it is.

0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.319
<v Speaker 4>Frankly, Yeah, the showering is womb like for you. I

0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:41.160
<v Speaker 4>mean it is true that the I'm just currently obsessed

0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:47.520
<v Speaker 4>with modern street style, which is you can wear your

0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:53.720
<v Speaker 4>pajamas as pants. That's totally fine. You could wear borderline slipper.

0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Look at you rocking.

0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.960
<v Speaker 2>It like you? Okay this I was gonna say, you

0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.040
<v Speaker 2>wear your slippers out of the house. Will.

0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.440
<v Speaker 4>The way you are dressed right now is as a

0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.080
<v Speaker 4>young cool. You're dressed as a young cool.

0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Wheat.

0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm not saying you are a young cool, but

0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.280
<v Speaker 4>you are dressed like a young cool. If you were

0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.560
<v Speaker 4>to go to any like any outdoor place where there

0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.960
<v Speaker 4>are shops and cools, sure, a boba shop.

0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.919
<v Speaker 3>But will you never would go out like this? Would you?

0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:21.560
<v Speaker 5>I'd go out?

0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I would lodge bread like that. Yeah kah, yeah,

0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.040
<v Speaker 2>yeah like that.

0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I could not.

0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't go out, no problem.

0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.559
<v Speaker 2>You can't go out in sneakers.

0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.280
<v Speaker 3>No, I can. I'm joking, but I prefer not to because.

0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.799
<v Speaker 2>You feel underdressed for life and sneakers.

0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely absolutely, I mean.

0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Not a pegged writer is the fancy one between the

0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:46.600
<v Speaker 2>three of us, I.

0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Know, But I like, right, why not to explain that?

0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I just because.

0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.720
<v Speaker 4>Because you live under the tree in the woods and

0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.239
<v Speaker 4>not shower for three weeks if you had your druthers right, yes,

0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.280
<v Speaker 4>but like to go to the grocery store, You're like,

0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.359
<v Speaker 4>I need a scarf, a leather jacket and some necker chiffery.

0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to do that.

0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.200
<v Speaker 3>And because do you guys ever look at like old

0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.400
<v Speaker 3>film like.

0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Sne This is like my papa, My papa, who is

0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.519
<v Speaker 4>ninety nine and a half, would be like, have you

0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.400
<v Speaker 4>ever seen the way we used to get dressed to

0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.120
<v Speaker 4>go on a plane. It's an abomination these kids today.

0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Jun what anybody else does. I don't care what anybody

0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.600
<v Speaker 3>else does. I just when I see that, I'm always like, yeah,

0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.120
<v Speaker 3>like you know, we're like another jacket or a texture

0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:37.840
<v Speaker 3>or something.

0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.640
<v Speaker 1>It's true. And not to get with again talking about

0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the much older people. But my mother in law, she

0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.280
<v Speaker 1>was ninety three when she passed away, And she used

0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to always say that when everybody dressed a certain way,

0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.920
<v Speaker 1>they acted a certain way. So when everybody dressed up

0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to go on an airplane, there was kind of a

0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>respective being of the travel and being on an airplane.

0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.240
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that kind of seems to have gone away.

0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I understand that. That's why, you know, there's the school

0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.680
<v Speaker 1>uniform or debate back and forth about you know, should

0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.880
<v Speaker 1>kids be forced to wear the school uniform that kind

0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of thing. So I get that, you kind of, but

0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.480
<v Speaker 1>they also say, dressed for the job you want. And

0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the job I want is to sleep for a living.

0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm dressing for the job I want. I'm listening

0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to them, but so far nothing.

0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.400
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny because like when I think about the nineties,

0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, like so much like my mentality back then

0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.279
<v Speaker 3>was like, don't care about what you wear.

0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's what drink.

0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, but but it was so obviously carry more

0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.640
<v Speaker 3>than if I actually write, do you know what I mean?

0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Like if I actually like bought clothes that fit me

0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.640
<v Speaker 3>or like, which I thought was like taking too much effort,

0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.400
<v Speaker 3>but in reality I cared so much more about what

0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.839
<v Speaker 3>I looked looked like because I had to make it

0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:44.839
<v Speaker 3>look like I didn't care what I.

0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Looked for right exactly, you were like it was like

0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:50.039
<v Speaker 4>the perfectly faded grungey enough tea or is this true

0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.800
<v Speaker 4>crisp and is this flannel worn in enough?

0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Or of these jeanes big enough?

0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I think so, I mean, I don't know, like I guess,

0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.760
<v Speaker 3>I just I mean, in some ways it was a

0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.800
<v Speaker 3>cop out, like I could just get way with wearing

0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.600
<v Speaker 3>the same like three pairs of Jenko jeans over and over,

0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.120
<v Speaker 3>as I didn't care. But like, yeah, I think, I

0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know. It wasn't healthy, Like I definitely did not

0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.960
<v Speaker 3>have a Like I think it's really healthy to have

0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.159
<v Speaker 3>a clear sense of your own style of how you

0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.320
<v Speaker 3>want to present in the world and whatever that is,

0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.479
<v Speaker 3>whatever that is, just be comfortable and confident in that,

0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, do you remember it always was insecure, like

0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.080
<v Speaker 3>how much always miserable about the way I looked.

0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.520
<v Speaker 1>How much ish We used to give Matt Lawrence for

0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.320
<v Speaker 1>dressing up nicely to come to work and he looked great,

0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.400
<v Speaker 1>had a style, and we were like, why can't you

0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.320
<v Speaker 1>just be relaxed? So if then he came in one

0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.240
<v Speaker 1>day with a wrinkled T shirt on and we were like.

0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Hey, we made that. We were making fun of him.

0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.160
<v Speaker 3>We were just talking. We were all talking about each

0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.400
<v Speaker 3>other's style one day and we we had you were

0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.080
<v Speaker 3>you were into categorizing everybody, if I remember. So, you

0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.280
<v Speaker 3>were like, you're this type of guy. You're that type

0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.200
<v Speaker 3>of guy. Like you still do e when you call

0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.600
<v Speaker 3>me creepy professor. So yeah, whatever the fact that you've

0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.159
<v Speaker 3>said something about me. And then you said to Matt,

0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.800
<v Speaker 3>you said, and you're a pretty boy, and he was

0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.760
<v Speaker 3>like what does that mean. I was like, well, you

0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.359
<v Speaker 3>you care about how you dress? And he was like

0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. And we were like, Matt, because and

0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.520
<v Speaker 3>to be fair, Matt spent a lot of money on

0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.400
<v Speaker 3>clothes back yes, but he looked great. He does not

0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.360
<v Speaker 3>he looked great. But he would go shopping a lot

0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.760
<v Speaker 3>with his family and spend a lot of money. And

0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.000
<v Speaker 3>he never wore the same clothes twice. Like that's what

0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I remember. It's like if you saw it. So we

0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.719
<v Speaker 3>were like, Matt, you just don't wear like a T

0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.680
<v Speaker 3>shirt and jeans. So the next day he came in

0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.520
<v Speaker 3>with like designer jeans, like the perfectly ripped oh yeah,

0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.320
<v Speaker 3>five hundred dollars jeans and a T shirt that was

0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.560
<v Speaker 3>just like slightly wrinkled, and we're in He's like, hey, guys,

0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and we were like, Matt, that's not it, and you know,

0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.600
<v Speaker 3>we just wouldn't let him off the hook. And then

0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.360
<v Speaker 3>we caught him later taking the steamer to.

0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.360
<v Speaker 1>A set steam ironing the T shirt.

0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.680
<v Speaker 3>He took off his clothes. It was steam ironing in

0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.719
<v Speaker 3>the wardrobe. We were like, see, Matt, you couldn't do it.

0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.680
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't even make it a day.

0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.359
<v Speaker 1>He was ahead ahead of all of us by actually

0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:03.400
<v Speaker 1>having a style.

0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.280
<v Speaker 3>But of caring about fashion.

0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Yea, I found something because we've talked about it several times,

0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and I thought you'd want to see this. The original.

0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:14.840
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.240
<v Speaker 2>There it is the original John Adams High School Athletic

0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.920
<v Speaker 2>department sweatshirt you kept.

0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.240
<v Speaker 1>There it is. It's perfectly ripped, like you know the eighties.

0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:25.960
<v Speaker 3>That's not right.

0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.440
<v Speaker 2>You cut that? You cut that?

0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, so I think you're right. Yeah, I think

0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I probably at the time did cut that. And then

0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just wow, that's great. This is also one of

0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.800
<v Speaker 1>my gauges of where I am weight wise, because sometimes

0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.680
<v Speaker 1>this fits and sometimes it does not. So yeah, it's

0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's still have it.

0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I just dressed like a juggalo and I love it.

0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:48.360
<v Speaker 1>What's a juggalo?

0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Juggalo? You know one of those people who likes the

0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:52.600
<v Speaker 2>insane clown posse.

0:07:55.480 --> 0:08:00.240
<v Speaker 1>No, okay, I'll just say you mispronounced jiggalo. I'll be

0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.400
<v Speaker 1>honest with you. I was like, what's a juggalo.

0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.560
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like a movement, right, It's like a

0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.920
<v Speaker 3>whole like political movement. Or is it just people that

0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.760
<v Speaker 3>like their music. I don't know, it's a it's a

0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.440
<v Speaker 3>whole thing. I don't I don't really get into the

0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.120
<v Speaker 3>weeds of God. You just you know so much about

0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:20.720
<v Speaker 3>so much, Daniel do anything. We're the iHeart Concert. You're like, oh,

0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.000
<v Speaker 3>so and so so and so so and so like

0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:27.480
<v Speaker 3>reality TV show stars obviously, musicality TV.

0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:30.280
<v Speaker 6>It all. Ye yep.

0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't know who anybody is. I know

0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.360
<v Speaker 3>who Sabrina Carpenter is because she played my daughter. Like

0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.480
<v Speaker 3>that's literally the only reason I know who she is exactly.

0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel the same way.

0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, welcome to Pod meets Old People. I'm Danielle Vishel,

0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:50.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm right or strong, and I'm a juggalo. I will

0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:55.959
<v Speaker 4>oh Man I am really excited about today's episode.

0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.240
<v Speaker 2>And guys, we have some big, big announcements.

0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.000
<v Speaker 3>First up, are you in Los Angeles and want to

0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:02.840
<v Speaker 3>see us in person?

0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.520
<v Speaker 1>But more importantly, do you want to see mister William

0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Daniels aka the Phoeneest of all Phoenees in person?

0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:09.720
<v Speaker 6>Well?

0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.600
<v Speaker 4>Join us on November seventeenth at the Orpheum in Los

0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Angeles for a very special Pod Meets World Live where

0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.160
<v Speaker 4>Bill Daniels will be joining us and.

0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Some other surprise special guests, but as stated, those are surprises.

0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Tickets and meet and greets are available now at Podmeetsworldshow

0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:27.360
<v Speaker 3>dot com.

0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.080
<v Speaker 4>And don't forget about Chicago November thirtieth at the Chicago

0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.120
<v Speaker 4>Theater and we can announce now we will be joined

0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.280
<v Speaker 4>by Anthony Tyler Quinn aka mister Turner.

0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.040
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be a special one.

0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Some other cities as well, New Orleans on December eighth,

0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta on December ninth, Durham, North Carolina on December tenth,

0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.920
<v Speaker 3>and Dallas and Austin in January.

0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.280
<v Speaker 1>It gets are available now at Podmeetsworldshow dot com.

0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.000
<v Speaker 2>And we've got some new merch.

0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.800
<v Speaker 1>We released three new shirts this month and we love

0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:56.439
<v Speaker 1>them all.

0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.079
<v Speaker 3>We have the ensorcell shirt celebrating our favorite word and

0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.440
<v Speaker 3>apparently the best way to make women do anything you

0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.600
<v Speaker 3>want on Boy Meets World. That's a deep cut.

0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But our two newest we heard your demands and we

0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.680
<v Speaker 1>have a Property of John Adams High School shirt and

0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.200
<v Speaker 1>hoodie for the podcast department and it's available now, a

0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.160
<v Speaker 1>way to wrap the school and the pod at the

0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.760
<v Speaker 1>same time. Those are going to sell like hotcakes.

0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And we finally did it. We made the Shan shirt.

0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:23.960
<v Speaker 3>That's right, the T shirt we talk about all the

0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.400
<v Speaker 3>time where it looks like Atlas holding a heart and

0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.800
<v Speaker 3>I wore it for like three seasons straight. We've replicated

0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.520
<v Speaker 3>it and it's available now. Oh I cannot wait.

0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.079
<v Speaker 4>To wear that big day for pod Meets World. Go

0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.120
<v Speaker 4>check them all out now and join us for a show.

0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Go to Podmeets worldshow dot com now. And for this

0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.040
<v Speaker 4>very special episode, we are going to do something a

0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.880
<v Speaker 4>little different and I am going to pass over introduction

0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.520
<v Speaker 4>duties to mister Ryder Strong.

0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, wow.

0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready? Writer? How do you feel?

0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm okay, yeah, find my notes, okay, okay, yeah, this

0:10:58.480 --> 0:10:59.760
<v Speaker 3>is going to be interesting, guys.

0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thrilled.

0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.080
<v Speaker 3>All right, here's my attempt at an intro. Okay, Today,

0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.560
<v Speaker 3>we continue a journey that we began when Danielle's mom,

0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.679
<v Speaker 3>Jen Fischer joined us on the show, and that is

0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.800
<v Speaker 3>specifically the journey of discovering just how much teenage Rider

0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.280
<v Speaker 3>thought that all parents were soul crushing fascists. Now we

0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.320
<v Speaker 3>go behind the scenes of his delusion and meet the

0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.800
<v Speaker 3>poor parents who had to put up with him. Like

0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Corey Matthews, Linda Warner Strong grew up in suburban Philadelphia.

0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Like Sean Hunter, King Arthur Strong and yes that is

0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.120
<v Speaker 3>his real name, grew up with very little money in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.800
<v Speaker 3>The two of them met at penn State University, where

0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.079
<v Speaker 3>she refused to believe that that was his real name

0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.199
<v Speaker 3>until he showed her his ID. They both moved separately

0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.080
<v Speaker 3>to San Francisco, where they reunited and fell in love

0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.920
<v Speaker 3>while spending six months riding a motorcycle to Alaska and back.

0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.199
<v Speaker 3>They then bought a piece of land in a redwood

0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.160
<v Speaker 3>forest and proceeded to build a home entirely on their own,

0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.040
<v Speaker 3>starting with digging a pool and making a hot tub

0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.840
<v Speaker 3>out of an olive oil tank. They decided to have kids,

0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.319
<v Speaker 3>raise them in the woods and make sure that they

0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.880
<v Speaker 3>also had unusual names. King was a captain in the

0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Marine Corps who piloted a four Skyhawks in Vietnam. Then

0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.920
<v Speaker 3>he was a lieutenant in the San Francisco Fire Department

0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.400
<v Speaker 3>for thirty years. Lynn was a nutritionist who taught at

0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.600
<v Speaker 3>the Santa Rosa Junior College until quitting her job to

0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:26.559
<v Speaker 3>manage her two sons burgeoning acting careers. Even though neither

0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.920
<v Speaker 3>of them had any experience in the arts or entertainment industry,

0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:34.880
<v Speaker 3>they offered constant, unwavering support, both emotionally and practically, for

0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.120
<v Speaker 3>their two sons to follow their dreams onto the stage

0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.319
<v Speaker 3>and eventually to the screen. Their little back to the

0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Land project in northern California has expanded into a beautiful

0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:48.199
<v Speaker 3>home nestled among some giant trees. It's their private paradise

0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.720
<v Speaker 3>where their son Rider doesn't visit enough, and where they

0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:56.520
<v Speaker 3>welcome anybody with open arms, provide copious amounts of food, wine,

0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:01.280
<v Speaker 3>and love. Please welcome my parents, Lynn and King Strong.

0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Yay, what a beautiful introduction. It sounded a little bit

0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.199
<v Speaker 2>like a mad lib. They're just their lives are so interesting.

0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:15.120
<v Speaker 4>It was like, look at these mad libs.

0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just going to take that and just use

0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the same thing whenever my dad or my mom are on.

0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:24.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just attorney Gary Fredell, attorney out of a hot tub,

0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:31.320
<v Speaker 1>out of olive oil. Yeah, just get easy.

0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.640
<v Speaker 3>All right, Let's see how that technology goes.

0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.480
<v Speaker 5>Hillary Burton Morgan here and I am excited to share

0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.040
<v Speaker 5>with you a new series. I'm launching a companion podcast

0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:49.880
<v Speaker 5>to my passion project, Sundance TV's True Crime Story It

0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.920
<v Speaker 5>Couldn't Happen Here Now. On the show, we focus on

0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.040
<v Speaker 5>small towns and the crimes that can rip them apart.

0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.680
<v Speaker 5>The cases we've covered have confused me and they have

0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.400
<v Speaker 5>made me deeply question our judicial system. What got me

0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.360
<v Speaker 5>so excited about doing this podcast is that we have

0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.640
<v Speaker 5>more time to really dig in. So you're going to

0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.320
<v Speaker 5>hear more information on these cases, as well as never

0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.160
<v Speaker 5>before heard interviews, and you'll get to go behind the

0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.000
<v Speaker 5>scenes with me and the team and learn what it's

0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.160
<v Speaker 5>like to make a show like this. Come join us

0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.360
<v Speaker 5>as we get curious and get involved. Listen to True

0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.720
<v Speaker 5>Crime Story It Couldn't Happen Here on the iHeartRadio app,

0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.520
<v Speaker 5>Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:50.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you guys look fantastic.

0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:57.440
<v Speaker 2>It's so good to see you both. Thank you so

0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.840
<v Speaker 2>much for agreeing to do this. Guys, we're so happy

0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to have you both.

0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's funny to see you all once.

0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.080
<v Speaker 3>So these guys are longtime listeners at least my dad, right, Dad,

0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.160
<v Speaker 3>you listen to every episode of part Yeah.

0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.320
<v Speaker 7>Listen to some, but I have I haven't heard them all.

0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Why have you not heard them all?

0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:24.920
<v Speaker 3>In you love your son?

0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.800
<v Speaker 8>I do it at double speed everything. I listened to

0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.360
<v Speaker 8>a Double Speed and it's so I get through a

0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.920
<v Speaker 8>lot every morning. I got to do stretches and then

0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.120
<v Speaker 8>while I doing that, I get through a couple of

0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.960
<v Speaker 8>episodes or I sot to other things so much too too.

0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.160
<v Speaker 6>You know, like like what got this universe and stuff

0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:42.520
<v Speaker 6>like that.

0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Danielle official and double Speed sounds terrified.

0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.720
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, isn't it.

0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.160
<v Speaker 3>It's just like twelve year old Danielle.

0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:49.560
<v Speaker 8>It is.

0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like twelve year old Danielle for sure.

0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.720
<v Speaker 4>It's funny because I also listen on Double Speed to

0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.640
<v Speaker 4>do the edits and uh, if you when then I

0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.520
<v Speaker 4>want to make an edit, I go have to go

0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.240
<v Speaker 4>into one time, you know, just regular speed.

0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.480
<v Speaker 2>And after that then it's.

0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:12.240
<v Speaker 8>So sometimes what's going on here?

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:13.720
<v Speaker 6>Talking so slow and I have to get back some

0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:14.680
<v Speaker 6>of the wheels.

0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.320
<v Speaker 4>So I want to I want to start a little

0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.920
<v Speaker 4>bit just I'm gonna let writer, you know, kind of

0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.080
<v Speaker 4>guide where he wants to take this interview. But you

0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.800
<v Speaker 4>have we have your gorgeous home in the background, and

0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.120
<v Speaker 4>I want to talk a little bit about the home

0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:36.920
<v Speaker 4>that you guys built from scratch by yourselves and what

0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:38.520
<v Speaker 4>that process was like for you.

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.800
<v Speaker 2>How many years ago was it that you built the house.

0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.800
<v Speaker 6>Now almost fifty Yeah, well.

0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we want We wanted to move in right before

0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:48.600
<v Speaker 7>a Rider was.

0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Born, and he was born in seventy nine, as everyone

0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:52.800
<v Speaker 4>knows everyone else.

0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so we moved in, but it's still we didn't

0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:01.480
<v Speaker 7>have cabinet covers or yeah, but we had a roof and.

0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.080
<v Speaker 6>So we moved in. Her dad helped with the building

0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:04.960
<v Speaker 6>more than anything.

0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.840
<v Speaker 8>So the two of us basically building and it was

0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:10.879
<v Speaker 8>it was a hass little bit.

0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.679
<v Speaker 6>It was fun. It was really fun. He's the greatest

0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:13.960
<v Speaker 6>guy I worked with in my life.

0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.560
<v Speaker 8>Everything come really nice. But we moved in without having

0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:19.920
<v Speaker 8>you know, like you said, the cab has done.

0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.520
<v Speaker 6>A lot of things that are here now were built

0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:24.399
<v Speaker 6>after we moved in.

0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.240
<v Speaker 3>But it's yeah, I was gonna say, it's really never

0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:30.639
<v Speaker 3>been done. The house is.

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:36.520
<v Speaker 8>Still being Next week the elevator comes in.

0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 6>Although it was just listened to a program.

0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.080
<v Speaker 8>I can't remember what it was about how you shouldn't

0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.640
<v Speaker 8>use elevators when you get to this sage you keep

0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.840
<v Speaker 8>moving that stopped you from the hundred years of life

0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.879
<v Speaker 8>or something. It's about the interviewed all these people throughout

0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.440
<v Speaker 8>the world who have lived over one hundred years and

0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.800
<v Speaker 8>why they lived over that period of time. It's because

0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.000
<v Speaker 8>they didn't stop moving. As long as you're moving, you're joining.

0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.600
<v Speaker 8>Don't tighten up, you don't get lazy and just sit

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.480
<v Speaker 8>all these people who just made to one hundred and

0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:07.240
<v Speaker 8>three hundred and.

0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 6>Ten or something like that. It's incredible. It was really good.

0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.879
<v Speaker 8>But anyhow we read that just or listen to that

0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 8>just last couple of nights ago, sow In elevator supposed

0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.399
<v Speaker 8>to use it will really like it.

0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and and I couldn't agree with you more that

0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.560
<v Speaker 4>continuing to move. But you guys also live on such

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.840
<v Speaker 4>beautiful property. You can get outside and move on mostly

0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 4>flat ground. The potential for injuring yourself on stairs far

0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.359
<v Speaker 4>outweighs the benefits of walking when you can do flat

0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:38.000
<v Speaker 4>ground walking.

0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're true. Sometimes absolutely.

0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, my my mother in law used to always say,

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're resting, your rusting, So I thought that was

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that was interesting.

0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:56.760
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like, well, as you guys know, Writer has

0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:02.520
<v Speaker 4>been painted as sort of a Jack Carawhac brooding artist type,

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.280
<v Speaker 4>this young literature major.

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.160
<v Speaker 2>So even when he was a preteen, he was that way.

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.480
<v Speaker 4>I have to ask right off the bat, what was

0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.040
<v Speaker 4>it like raising a young writer strong?

0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 8>This guy was so sharp, but you know, really early

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:26.520
<v Speaker 8>on realized intelligence he was and it was going some

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.560
<v Speaker 8>particularly get into the programs to the show. That's where

0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.240
<v Speaker 8>it kind of threw me because there's so much he

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.280
<v Speaker 8>was doing there and yet listen to podcasts. Is what

0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.359
<v Speaker 8>my amazing to me, how much I did not know

0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:43.360
<v Speaker 8>that you guys are experiencing. And Writer particularly he told

0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:44.800
<v Speaker 8>some of the stuff, but then he wanted it off

0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 8>the show. And it was like, early on, why'd he

0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.159
<v Speaker 8>want off the show? But he had his reasons, and okay, we.

0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:53.600
<v Speaker 6>Went off the show. We'll get off the show.

0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:58.000
<v Speaker 8>And actually we talked about that because he was so

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 8>anxious to get off and see the girl that he

0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:01.400
<v Speaker 8>was dating.

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.320
<v Speaker 2>More important thing.

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 6>Do you have, Mari?

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, that's the most important to you, so you

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 8>can break the contracts, the big deal. Yeah, kind of

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.399
<v Speaker 8>changed his mind about that. But as far as his

0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 8>brilliance that I am aware of, I seem to.

0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 6>Be recognized that really early.

0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:24.439
<v Speaker 7>He's always even that's a little little type he was.

0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:30.160
<v Speaker 7>I felt he had an old soul. Yeah, that's yeah,

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 7>he has an old soul. Yeah, he's like an old

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.960
<v Speaker 7>man in this tiny little lot he had with wisdom

0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.360
<v Speaker 7>and the intelligence that was pretty mind boggling.

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.440
<v Speaker 6>Actually, I was getting embarrassed.

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.320
<v Speaker 4>Where do you think writer in Shiloh's like performative and

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 4>artistic nature came from. Do either of you have any

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.679
<v Speaker 4>sort of performance bone in your body? Or either of

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 4>you would you consider yourselves to be performative or artistic?

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:00.160
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.600
<v Speaker 6>No, But but we were stake at one time. I

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.160
<v Speaker 6>felt like I was, but that was.

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.440
<v Speaker 7>More and I'm crafty. I knit and do.

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 6>Pottery, drawings and paintings.

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 7>But we did videos. We early on when writer was

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.959
<v Speaker 7>about what were you writer to or three?

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I was two? I think, yeah, and that was where

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.400
<v Speaker 3>did that come from? Because Dad, you just bought a

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.040
<v Speaker 3>video camera. You were like one of the best first vhs.

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, right, yeah, Well your mother had always took

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:29.960
<v Speaker 6>a course.

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 7>I took a when I was in graduate school. I

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:37.440
<v Speaker 7>took an elective of filmmaking. So we used to what's

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.240
<v Speaker 7>it called super eight, you know, and had to edit

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 7>and do little things. So I knew you could how

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.200
<v Speaker 7>you could edit certain ways. And so so we had

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:55.440
<v Speaker 7>writer and Shiloh become in their story that they made up.

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 7>They become cowboys. But then they turn around and we

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:04.080
<v Speaker 7>stopped the camera. They become get into their superhero outfits

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 7>and get on the same spot and as they turn

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 7>around and they magically become superheroes.

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's it.

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 3>That's the moment visual effects. Yeah, please tell me you

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.160
<v Speaker 3>still have this somewhere. Do you have this video Great

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Toy Caper, The Great Toy Caper, and you have it? Yes,

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 3>they just showed into some of these. I haven't seen

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 3>them in years, but the Great Toy Caper was the

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 3>first one. I was like two and a half. Shiloh's

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 3>like three or four. And I mean, what I love

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 3>about these videos now is and then, like I said,

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it a while, but like, my parents

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 3>are like always the bad guys or like, and they

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 3>are so committed and they would, you know, they like

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 3>they would do this this particular story. They were stealing

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 3>tolleys from the sandbox and so they wore bags over

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 3>their head and they play these bad guys and they're

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.880
<v Speaker 3>all like, and it is and then my grandparents are

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 3>get involved.

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 8>It was a family everybody even yeah, even your grandmother.

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 3>We would spend all day making these movies. Oh yeah,

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.440
<v Speaker 3>and they were inspired by whatever. Like Shiloh came home

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.879
<v Speaker 3>from school one day he had created some robot character

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 3>at school. So then remember we made Dracula meats Robot

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 3>one twenty six or whatever, and it was like, yeah,

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 3>and my dad played a mad scientist who built a

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 3>child because their son died. I died, right.

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 6>The story.

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:33.399
<v Speaker 7>Good So that you know, the boys were exposed to

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 7>being on a camera, very arrowly on and it was

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 7>always a fun story that we told, which was it

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 7>was their stories. They're the ones that wrote them.

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they made up the ideas that we just had

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 8>the fun doing the editing stuff.

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>But I love how you you were wondering if you're like,

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm kind of artistic. And then you're talking

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>about making films as a family over and over and

0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>over again.

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.239
<v Speaker 3>That's incredibles. By the way they would edit, they my

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.479
<v Speaker 3>mom would play piano, they'd add music like these were

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 3>like you know, they were working and that's the thing

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>they was all. It was like basically, my brother and

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 3>I were always being told that like whatever we imagined,

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 3>the family was willing to spend days making a reality

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 3>out of which is just like that's the greatest gift

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 3>you can give, Like I want to be a little filmmaker.

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, this is important and let's learn the

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 3>skills to figure it out. So, yeah, you guys are

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 3>incredibly creative. You also both are musically gifted. Dad, you

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>can sing really well. Mom you play the piano. Like

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:31.160
<v Speaker 3>you guys have lots of artistry. Yeah, you just never

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 3>had it in your lives, Like you never made a

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 3>career out of it. Right, But Dad also does stained glass.

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 3>You can see a little bit of the stained glass

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 3>behind him. He did these stained glass windows all throughout

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 3>the house.

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 4>I love the staying somedays I remember them from your

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 4>house yeah, yeah.

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:48.199
<v Speaker 1>But the correlation is kind of interesting between making a

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>film and building a home. I mean, you're building something from.

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Scratch that's artistic.

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Whether it's something like building a home or making a film,

0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you're still starting with nothing and creating something amaze. So

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the the artistry just in building the home,

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it is there in itself. So yeah, I love to

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 1>hear you guys are both searching for like, well, I

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>guess we're kind of artistic people. As you're sitting in

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the home you built by hand, talking about the films

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you were making Unrenewable.

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 4>So how did you then tackle the concept of entering

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Hollywood like without any real connections and in a small

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 4>little town that you live in.

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 8>That was because Sharlow and Ryder were taking hacking lessons

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 8>and one of the antient Asian an Asian contacted the

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 8>leading person in the acting class and said, do you

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 8>have anybody that can go for audition?

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 6>Audition for what it was for?

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 7>And so so we videotaped, we got the side, so

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 7>we video and and we got they got screen tested.

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 7>They were down to five kids in the nation, five

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 7>little boys, and two of them were horse They flew

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 7>as they flew us down to Los Angeles. We met

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 7>Warren Baby.

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 7>Kids went in and they didn't get the part. They

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 7>had no idea what we were doing. The limousine picked

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 7>us up.

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 3>The limos all we cared about you guys were and

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 3>then yeah, you guys are just you were like trying

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 3>to explain who Warren Baby was and we just could

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 3>could not.

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Ye.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 3>We were hoping because at that point Madonna was attached

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 3>to the project, and that's all I remember, being like, oh,

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 3>maybe we'll meet Madonna.

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this is this is for Charlie corsmost part.

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Wow, yeah, kid kid.

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 7>The first audition they ever did, they were screen tested

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 7>on and so then after that we were getting agents

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 7>and who knew that saying hey, we you know, do you.

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Guys remember what we did? Then when we went into

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 3>the audition, like how green and naive we were.

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you were through the pages or something trying to.

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 7>So they went off, they went off, they improved.

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 3>How old were you writer? At nine? Okay? So Warren

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Batty started trying to improv with me, and I thought

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 3>I was the first kid in the audition, like out

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 3>of the kids there, and I thought, oh, I have

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 3>the wrong pages NIGHTM well, that's written on my script.

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've been reading for like four years, and

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm doing something wrong. And then, like an idiot,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I come out and tell the entire waiting room they

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 3>were saying lines that weren't on the script. They wanted

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 3>us to make them up on the spot. So then

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 3>all the other kids were totally prepared.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I took one for the tea you took.

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 4>So then how did you guys deal with that rejection

0:27:58.280 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 4>when neither of them booked it?

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>How did they handle it? And how did you guys

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 2>handle it?

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 7>How did you handle it? Rider?

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 6>We did didn't any to us.

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.719
<v Speaker 7>It was just exciting adventure and yeah, you just got

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 7>to go in a limo and me orange Baby, I.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Mean so cool.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember thinking it was It was an.

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 7>After that we had the uh. They auditioned for Lemiz

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 7>for the live performance in San Francisco, and Ride was

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 7>booked that day. Charlotte was on a wait list to

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 7>see how tall, so he was a couple of months

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 7>later he auditioned again, but Bridan was booked right away.

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 6>Was too tall, but it had grown too much.

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>So they measured us every week on Lima's Yeah, they

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 3>were a kid on stage.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So what was that like having to bring rider because

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I you know, when we you do live stage, obviously

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the schedule is grueling. So what was that like having

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>to shuttle him back and forth from San Francis Go

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>because you're you guys are what an hour hour and

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a half outside.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 7>Of the store and a half?

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 7>There?

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 3>And was that every day.

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 6>Six days a week, one one day off?

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 9>But uh, well you know Matt das two days performance, Yeah,

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 9>Wednesday and Saturday.

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.479
<v Speaker 7>But there was you know, what do you call curtain

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 7>call at the end, they had a standing ovation every

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 7>night and Writer, you wanted to stay for that, you know,

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 7>it's thrilling And that was at eleven fifteen at night.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 7>Oh so then we had to drive home there, so

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 7>it was crazy.

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>What do you remember most about his stage debut?

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 7>I I remember the audition. He yeah, we were practicing

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 7>what we're going to what we were going to sing,

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 7>and Writer changed his mind I think right before we

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 7>got in there to sing the Battle Hymn of the

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 7>Republic instead of like, I forget what he was supposed

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 7>to do. But anyway, and then you they had him

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 7>crawl across the stage singing the song.

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Right because Cavarro has to die on stage. Yeah, so

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It, so thanks spoiler alert.

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Have you never seen mish? We talked about this, we

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen it yet. Yeah. So Gavroche has this this

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 3>like like rousing theme song about how little people know

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 3>and little people find it. It's actually been completely cut

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 3>down the latest edition, which is a disaster. In the

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 3>original play, he had this whole song and then he

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 3>runs across He jumps over the barricade to go get

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 3>bullets because he's quicker and smaller than any of the

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.719
<v Speaker 3>other like adults, and get shot. But he has to

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 3>like sing his He's singing his like song while he's

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>getting shot three times. It was a great yeah, and

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>so what for my audition? They were like I sang

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 3>the battle him in the Republic, and they're like, now

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 3>sing it, but you're dying and you're crawling across stage.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Whenever I pointed to you, you get shot and you

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 3>have to keep singing, which is you know basically, And

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I of course loved it.

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 7>I remember though, because I had gotten new clothes for

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 7>you to go. You were worried that it got old

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 7>dusty from the stage because you had to crawl across

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 7>the Oh.

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>You were like, sorry, mom, my clothes got dirty.

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but that was it was exciting though. It was

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 7>an exciting time.

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 3>After two and a half years.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>He was cheating while you were pregnant. Were pregnant? Yeah,

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>about thirteen women. More like if I would have stayed

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>married to Max, I think you would have cheated forever.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 6>It was.

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 2>It was just toxic relationship.

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.719
<v Speaker 8>Michael Cousin returns to wind Down with Janet Kramer.

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Cousins.

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 8>You don't want to miss this three parts re unions.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Were you ever worried that both of them being in

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 4>entertainment as actors would create competition between the two of them?

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 6>Sure, oh yeah, yeah, because they are going through the

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 6>same part sometimes.

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because they're only eighteen months apart, so they were

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 7>constantly auditioning for the same part.

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 8>But we're both working on the TV series at the

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 8>same time too. That's like the complicated. But luckily I

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 8>had a job as a firefighter and I was able

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 8>to trade days so I could be Like when even

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 8>Rider got a movie in the New Mexico, New Mexico. Yeah,

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 8>and I was able to trade a couple of weeks

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 8>to go there for that. I can't remember the name

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 8>of the movie.

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 3>You remember, writer, The Long Kill. It was a TV Yes, yeah.

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 6>This is why you're still on Boy Meets World too.

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 6>I think.

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 3>No, that was before Boy was before Boy. Yeah. Yeah,

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 3>you and I spent like three weeks in New Mexico together.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I just remember playing cards constantly, and yeah.

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>What card games? Did you play?

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Egyptian Rat? You taught me that.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>You taught me that game game.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember it now, but I a great way

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 3>to kill time on a set with your dad when

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 3>you're eleven years old.

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 7>We uh.

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Pile you have to like slash to slap the pile

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 3>and you have doubles. I think you can call it

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Egyptian Rat screw it but whatever, Yeah, or Egyptian War.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, my dad and I played that, and yeah,

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 3>we just had I remember, we had a great time.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 3>And we went and saw the The Cliff Dwellings and uh,

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, I had had a lot of downtime because

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I was a very small part in this movie. But yeah,

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and then I went to Australia for a job with

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 3>you mom. Yeah, yeah, they took turns and then my

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 3>brother would be like, Charlotte was off doing movies in

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 3>North Carolina. A bunch of.

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 7>It was. It was crazy.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember hearing about then and Boy Meets World

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>came up? Was this just another another one in the

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>long line of auditions or did you think that maybe

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>this was going to be special? I mean, do you

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>remember hearing.

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 3>About the show?

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 6>Nothing about it.

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 8>It was just it was any other audition, and it

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 8>was surprising that there was lasted seven years.

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 6>That was incredible.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 8>But it was such a good show right from the

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 8>beginning that you knew it was going to last. But

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 8>then Ryders part got bigger and bigger scenes.

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I listened to you guys your podcast.

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 8>I'm amazed how much I didn't know when all behind

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 8>the scenes and what you guys did it is amazing.

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I know my mom says the same thing.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 4>My mom's like, man, I feel like I feel like

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 4>I knew it all, She's like, And then I realize

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 4>we all think we know it all because we just

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 4>have our own little POV.

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 6>You're right, yeah, yeah.

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 7>Well, but you know, at least those moms were.

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 2>There all the time, exactly.

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I know my parents still ask what a podcast is,

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 1>so a little bit a little bit different. But yeah, yeah,

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>but mom, you were there for the first really the

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>first three seasons consistently, right, Oh yeah.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 3>So what was that like for you?

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 7>Uh, you know, initially it was very exciting me and

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 7>everybody and seeing, yeah, how it all works. But it

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 7>got boring very quickly.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 7>You didn't have I mean, you weren't being paid to

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 7>be there, you know, so it was you know, but

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 7>it was a job and I was supposed to stay

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 7>within sight and sound of my child kind of thing.

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 7>But he was in school and I knew he was

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 7>fine in the school with David Combs and Wesley and

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 7>uh so I got to read a lot of books.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 7>Initially I was happy about because when you have when

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 7>you're raising boys out in the country, you never have

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 7>time to read a book.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>So that was that was nice.

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 7>I was able to catch up with reading a lot

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 7>of biographies.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 6>That's all. I remember. Many times I spent there was

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 6>just reading a book. Yeah.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's such a sacrifice for you, you know, like

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 4>you could have with those days, you could have been

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 4>working you could have been doing, you know, anything else

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 4>you wanted to do for yourself, but instead, for no money,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 4>you're sitting on a set literally quietly doing nothing.

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 4>Thankfully you liked to read, so you got to accomplish

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, you got to read a lot of books,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 4>and I know you got you know, for my mom,

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 4>you were a real source of knowledge and wisdom because

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 4>you guys had been in the industry certainly for a

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 4>lot longer than we had, and my mom looked up

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 4>to you so much, and my mom has such fond

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 4>memories of spending time with you on set.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what was the set of Boybet's World like in particular?

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 6>Mom?

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 7>What was it?

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 6>What?

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 3>What was the set of boy Meets World like as

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 3>compared to other sets or like the group of people,

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 3>the cast, the crew to Crown?

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 7>Okay, I the one that really stood out for me

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 7>was that you had done a guest spot on Home

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 7>Improvement and I think they were right next door. Yeah,

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 7>but anyway, but you were there for one or two weeks.

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 7>In fact, it was a Halloween which they were getting

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 7>nearby there. But the three kids, the three boys that

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 7>were on Home Improvement, they were being yelled at I was.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 7>I was upsetting to see how they treated them, you know.

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:44.959
<v Speaker 7>So I really appreciate the fact that the whole of crew,

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 7>everybody in Boy Meet's World, they respected you as actors

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 7>and professionals. And I never remember anyone ever yelling or

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 7>degrading to any of you. So that was that was.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 7>I was very impressed with how well they treated you

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 7>as as and treated you like professionals that you were.

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know that the Home Improvement Boys have talked

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 4>about that. I heard things about that set that where yeah,

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 4>the kids there were treated like second class citizens basically

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 4>friend and not actors or you know, other professionals. So

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure that was quite a change where Boy Meets

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 4>World definitely felt more like a family environment.

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, oh yeah, and very professional.

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 3>How's the thing. Yeah, Boy Me World was just sort

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 3>of an inversion and that the kids were. I mean

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 3>it was called boy right, I mean it was built

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 3>around band. It was like the show started with the kids.

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 3>The adults were cast around him essentially, you know. So, yeah,

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 3>there was no there was no avoiding the fact that

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 3>the show only existed for child actors.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, good point, that's true.

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 8>It's just like the one child that was on the

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 8>mommies who was so far towards them the good parts,

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 8>But it wasn't like the kid's story. So on the

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 8>last of two seasons that was.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Chilte was just like making out with a girl on

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:11.240
<v Speaker 3>the couch every week, right, And how is that different?

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Then by season three or four with you yeah.

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Girl and che exactly, that would be literally an.

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Extent in his part. It was like a recurring joke

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 3>that he was just always laying on the couch making

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 3>girl and like that was his entire world.

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 8>Flipping Berg is as joineder or something really yeah, yeah,

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 8>something weird like that.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Now, did you ever worry about the kind of you know,

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>we we've heard about. It was mostly in the in

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the eighties, so we weren't there. We were coming up after.

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>But did you ever worry about Rider or Shiloh falling

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>into the young actor trap of you know, what Hollywood

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>could do with clubs or going out and partying or

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>any of that stuff. Was that ever a concern in

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 1>any way?

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 6>No, never thought touched together kids, No, it was never something.

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 7>Well, we all also made a point to fly home

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 7>every week, and we literally live in a redwood forest

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 7>right up here in northern California, and I just always said,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 7>I want to I want to keep them grounded in

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 7>the redwoods.

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Yep. So yeah, and that's that's really smart.

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 4>You can limit the exposure and limit the downtime in

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 4>the environment. And and even if you're going to have

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 4>a very hands off approach in the redwood forest, you know,

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 4>you know what's out there. At least it feels a

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 4>little it feels like you have a little bit more

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 4>control then you do.

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, kids might get stabbed, but that's not.

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Exactly that can happen.

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But no, that's true. I mean I think that's one

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of the most dangerous combinations of a young child actor

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of money and a lot of time,

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and so you put those two things together and sometimes

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 1>it's not a great combination. So yeah, I think we

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>all kind of avoided that that hole, which is great.

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>But I know that one of the things that made

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>me feel so good, especially one time, Lynn, was that

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I knew that you started to really trust me, uh

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 1>with hanging out with Ryder because we were going somewhere

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and You're like, I don't want to go here, just

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>take the Previa, and you tossed me the keys to

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.439
<v Speaker 1>your car and you were like, you just take them,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>let's go. And I had everybody in the car. They

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>were just driving your car around. I was like, Oh,

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>this is good. She trust me, now, this is awesome.

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So I remember that. Yeah, I remember feeling good about that.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 7>You were the older, you know, the elder in the groups.

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>That was so great.

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:39.879
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we lived initially, you Will and Rider and Child

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 7>and I were all in Oak Woods.

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Lee and Lee Lee. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 4>So as Rider got a little bit older, he ended

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.959
<v Speaker 4>up being on the cover of every teen bop mag

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 4>magazine you could possibly think of. What was that like

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 4>for you as parents to see your son be a

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:08.760
<v Speaker 4>teen heart throb?

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 6>Felt good about it.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:16.479
<v Speaker 7>But I still have a whole chest with drawers full

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 7>with all those magazines pictures.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 7>So I did collect them. I did, you know, I'd

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.879
<v Speaker 7>go and buy the magazine and see what they had

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 7>to say.

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 8>Niece had to take care of, niece had to take

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 8>care of so much, it was incredible.

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 6>That's right. My cousin Alicia, Yeah, Alicia, Yeah, she came

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 6>up to call over. It was really nice. So much work.

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 3>What do you don't all the letters.

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Right, she read all of them, and that's when you

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 4>then started doing the headshots with the printed autograph, right,

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 4>So you would get a headshot sign one of them,

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 4>and then they would make copies of it.

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 6>And you do too.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we all did that.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to, you need to.

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 6>There's just a bit much. I wouldn't want to do

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 6>it myself, that's for sure.

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 4>And so king did anybody at the fire station, like

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 4>what did your friends think?

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>In your small little town? You have these two kids.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 4>That that strike it kind of big in Hollywood, Like,

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 4>you come from this tiny town and you have two

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 4>very famous young men in your family.

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 2>What did people say to you?

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Did that?

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Did people know?

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they knew, but I can't remember being anything special.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 2>They just didn't care.

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 7>Say to this day. Asked about what's weird? Yeah, yeah,

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 7>when we got the fireman's ball, yeah.

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 6>The fire department.

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, those guys were really impressed for some reason. Yeah,

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 8>I think locally, I don't of course, right here country,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 8>what's local? You don't have all these people around you family.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 3>It's like a fifteen min drive to the town of Sebastopol,

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 3>which is a town of seven thousand people. That's a

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 3>that's that's a drive away.

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but writer, our podcast has made local press.

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 4>We've been in your paper. I imagine you were probably

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 4>in the local paper back then too, No.

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean I think it goes back to

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 3>the idea that like no one really cared. Nobody cares

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 3>because we were kids show. So yeah, we were sort

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 3>of flying under the radar at home. Like I remember

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 3>just I would go home and like Insanoma County basically

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 3>feel invisible, Like I felt like a totally normal.

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Which is one of the reasons you loved it.

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 3>We wanted to.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's why we came home every weekend.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if anything, when I ended up at the

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 3>high school I ended up at, which is you know,

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 3>a very alternative, you know, out in the woods, hippie school,

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Like if anything, I got made fun of for being Hollywood,

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, like if if I dressed, if I cared

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 3>about how I looked, if I if I I ever

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 3>had product in my hair, and it was like just

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 3>pure mockery. I remember my teacher calling me out, like

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about consumerism and and how how ridiculous and like

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 3>somehow he found out that we had more than one

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 3>VCR and like he like made fun of me in

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 3>front of the entire school that like I had, how

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 3>dare somebody have more? And it's like, but this is

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 3>what I do for a living, Like, yeah, video equipment

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 3>is kind of important. But I felt bad, If anything,

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 3>I felt bad about being an actor in Its.

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 8>Funny because you always wanted to quit and go back.

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 8>It's not always that one period through the schooling.

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 7>Writer you mentioned about the high school. The schooling was tough,

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, because they were when they were smaller, they

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.720
<v Speaker 7>were going to the public school. But they don't want

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 7>they want the child there in the seat. They get

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 7>the money that way scare in California, and so for

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 7>him to be pulled out all the time for even

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 7>in an audition and then more, it was difficult. It

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 7>was just hard, right. So we ended up we ended

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 7>up looking at several private schools around the area that

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 7>could be that would work. And the one we did find,

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.919
<v Speaker 7>I mean we had we had actually rafted we're river

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 7>rafting with the husband of the owner of the school,

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 7>and we were on one of the trips with her

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 7>and her family and I was talking to her about

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 7>it and she goes, oh, we can work something out.

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:32.760
<v Speaker 7>We can, you know. And luckily both both the boys were.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:34.800
<v Speaker 6>Liked school.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 7>They were they could be trusted with assignments and get

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 7>them done. Even though they were off someplace doing the

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 7>acting and the job, they would get the work done.

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 7>So every three weeks when there was hiatus, they could

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 7>come back and get their hand the work in.

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, that must have felt nice to have that

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 4>one less worry on your plate of like, oh, are

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 4>they getting an education?

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>You always knew that they were. Yeah, yeah.

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 7>Unluckily you guys were. You had a great schooling.

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>The best.

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 4>Wesley and David were just two of so good, the

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 4>best in the world.

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 4>I truthfully would put either one of them up against

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 4>the best teacher anybody in the world and be like, yeah,

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 4>dare you to do better than these two?

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 3>So I have a.

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Question because we when Jen Fischer came on, we had

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk a little bit about Danielle's dating history, and

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's only fair that we do the same

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about Rider, because Ryder has so. I

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>met him he was twelve, he'd already been married for

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:45.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty two.

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 4>Years, falling in line with the old man inside the

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 4>young man's thought.

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he has been relationship guy since day one that

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I met him, and I was wondering if you could

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>talk just a little bit about I mean, a man

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>who wears his heart on his slee leave when it

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>comes to the relationships he's in. What was it like

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>raising somebody who has been in love you know one

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's I think people he's a tortured in love

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>young man from the time I had met him. Can

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you walk us a little bit through Writer's love life?

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 7>Oh? He would just yeah, I mean you just described

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:34.879
<v Speaker 7>it perfectly. Yeah, Yeah, he just falls totally and it's

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 7>that one and only person. Yeah, for they were all

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 7>long term relationships.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 4>No, did you ever want to encourage him to, like,

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, because my mom I would always I would

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 4>usually fall for the very first person that would appear

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 4>in front of me after a breakup, and my mom

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 4>would go, Danielle, you can't just keep stumbling into quote

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 4>unquote long term relationships if you're never available, how are

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 4>you going to meet the right person? Like if you're

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 4>just always taken? Did you ever want to encourage Writer

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:12.319
<v Speaker 4>to not be so obsessation been finding the one at

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 4>twelve and to maybe just kind of be a little

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 4>freer and date a round. I'm asking for young Danielle

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 4>who really just never had her chance.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:21.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Dan, young did.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the problem is Danielle is retroactively trying to get rid.

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Would you ever encourage you to just be a little

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 4>single for a while.

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 7>No, I don't. I don't remember encouraging to the woman

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 7>that he was with. Where great, good choices, good choices.

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 6>Everyone he ever dated was always like, that's fine.

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you guys had a very you guys had a

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 4>very cool, hands off approach to a lot of a

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of your parents.

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Where do you think that comes from. Were you guys.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 4>Raised with a lot of freedom as kids, or were

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 4>your parents a little more strict?

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.959
<v Speaker 6>Oh? My parents were totally free. I mean, do whatever

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 6>you want to do as all as you want to.

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 6>I never had any restrictions at all in any part

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 6>in my life. Sometimes I was a little kid and

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 6>you had little I had restrictions. You had restrictions, And

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:20.479
<v Speaker 6>I ended up.

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 7>Moving three thousand miles away to feel free.

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 6>San franc in nineteen seventy.

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 7>San Francisco was home because there was freedom. There was

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah at that point, I was what twenty two anyway,

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 7>But they still had control over me. I felt. You

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 7>know that that's.

0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 8>Totally different to two of us. Like I said, I

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.200
<v Speaker 8>had total free different times. I was ten, eleven, twelve

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 8>years old, but twenty two.

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 2>And you had to move to get it.

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, really I did.

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what a time in a place, though. Can you

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>tell me just a little bit what San Francisco in

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the late sixties early seventies was, like, I mean, that

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 1>was like a cultural phenomenon in the United States. What

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was it like at twenty two, moving across the country

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and seeing San Francisco at it's arguably its height of coolness?

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 2>What was that like?

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Boy?

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 6>Wow?

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 7>Well, like I said, I felt at home and felt

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 7>totally free. You could do whatever you wanted. We had

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 7>gotten into marijuana and so we were enjoying that. And

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 7>then there were protests at Golden Gate Park that you

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:44.280
<v Speaker 7>could just join in and it's very it was just exciting.

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 7>It was very exciting and free.

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 2>And when did you guys reconnect?

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 4>So you guys met at Penn State and then and

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 4>then moved separately to San Francisco. At what point did

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 4>you guys reconnect and what were you doing separately at

0:51:57.960 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 4>the time that you guys reconnected.

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 7>Well, the first when I first came out to San Francisco,

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 7>I only came out for the summer, and uh, but

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 7>during that summer I decided I need to move out.

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 7>So but the first night I was in San Francisco,

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:19.200
<v Speaker 7>I went out with King, not as a date, his

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 7>old roommate who I had dated at the State. You know,

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 7>I went out and I saw him, and so I

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 7>saw King the first night, actually.

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:36.920
<v Speaker 6>Visited after about a year, I guess.

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 7>That winter, I guess, I don't know.

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 8>Somewhere in there, Bill, who she was dating, said to me,

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 8>I was back back at the time a lot, and

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 8>she said he said to me, you know, uh, bac

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 8>take why don't you date her?

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:55.839
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Well, I mean Phil and I were never serious, ever,

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 7>ever serious.

0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 6>So that's how we got to go.

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 4>Wow, I love that Lyn's boyfriend set you to. That

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:09.839
<v Speaker 4>is my favorite met.

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but it turned out great.

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, a great friend of mine and good friend of hers,

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 8>and we got together and then.

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.319
<v Speaker 7>Actually riding you called a local Bill.

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then I never saw him after the age

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:28.720
<v Speaker 3>of like four or five.

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he went out for cigarettes.

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 6>He moved back back to Pennsylvania. Were Yeah, you.

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Guys really you you were dating on and off, but

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 3>you really it was the trip to Alaska that really.

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's definitely what happened on that trip.

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 7>Uh. Well, we went up on a Honda three fifty

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 7>one bike with the two of us on it and

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:55.480
<v Speaker 7>our one.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.880
<v Speaker 6>Pack back back that had.

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 7>Little stove for cooking meals and one other change of clothes,

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:10.359
<v Speaker 7>and we just took off. Yeah, it was we.

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 6>Got how far we get? Eighty miles?

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we got up to Cinama County, where we now.

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.439
<v Speaker 8>The brand new bike, and we had to pull over

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 8>to a place which was just an abandoned farmhouse and

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 8>we slept there from right now it's a.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 7>It's a ko Kwa campground.

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:32.719
<v Speaker 8>Somebody bought the property is a big campground now, but

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 8>we're the first camps there. And the next morning we

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 8>pushed it over to uh which was in at Alum

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 8>at the time, and they fixed that day. We continued

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:44.439
<v Speaker 8>on our trip and go all the way to Act.

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 7>When I look back on that, I'm surprised we just

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 7>kept going. Yeah that we never we never discussed let's

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 7>go back home, let's go back to San Francis.

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:58.439
<v Speaker 4>He was only eighty miles away.

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I know, you guys were just tell me about like

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 3>where was it the end, in the middle of the

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 3>trip whatever, when you were when you were doing the

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 3>backpacking where Dad wanted to build a raft and like

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 3>go across the thing and that's when you finally had

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 3>your breakdown.

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 7>Mom, that was that was the West Coast Trail on

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:14.840
<v Speaker 7>Vancouver Island.

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's the first trip.

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:24.479
<v Speaker 8>No, that was after elastic it was, but.

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 7>That was a trip that I mean, we had been

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 7>together several years, living together. I think we were up

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 7>here at redwood Shire or place we call it. And uh,

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 7>but we took that trip and the king was very

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 7>he was very excited about building the rift and we

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 7>had to have a tie watch the tides and anyway,

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 7>it was a awful trail. It was not well maintained.

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 6>I was trees across the road.

0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 3>How many days angry? You were like three or four days?

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just a couple of days. Yeah, and and uh yeah,

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 7>and I just said, this isn't fun. My bedroll was wet,

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:04.320
<v Speaker 7>everything was wet.

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 8>We met two campers on the coming the other director

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.760
<v Speaker 8>who had lost all their equipment crossing that river.

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 7>And they said and they had nothing, they had no

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:16.239
<v Speaker 7>We gave him some of our food.

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 6>Great challenge, and she was worn up, and so you know,

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 6>this isn't fun.

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 7>It was the only trailing, you know. But but I

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 7>told him, I said, look, you you go on, I'll

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:30.239
<v Speaker 7>hike back because we've already just came from there. I

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 7>can go back and then all yourself.

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess, well, it's like bear country, like Jesus, I'll.

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:41.799
<v Speaker 7>Stay in the hotel and then when you get when

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:42.440
<v Speaker 7>you get.

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Back, yeah, honestly, but not a bad decision.

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:48.319
<v Speaker 4>Listen, King, if you want to take the chance with

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 4>your bed and all of our belongings, I'll go to

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.760
<v Speaker 4>a motel and I'll see you on the other side.

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 6>Sir.

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 3>I think that was a healthy moment for my parents.

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 7>But but but King said, no, we're doing this together

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:04.480
<v Speaker 7>and I'll go back with you.

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 8>Good.

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 4>So he went to the motel and he didn't force

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 4>you to go down the river. Just air air dry

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 4>your bed, air dry your bed.

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.240
<v Speaker 7>But at that point I knew he was a keeper.

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was I knew.

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 6>You should have known that.

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 8>That was three months getting back to that, the original one.

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 8>It took about a month to get up there, so

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 8>it slowly were because it rained the whole time on

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 8>the on the motorcycle.

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>H on the you're riding a motorcycle. It's raining the

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>whole time.

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 6>Stuck a couple of places because all the springs in

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 6>the rear wheel broke.

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 2>This is not a good ad for Honda. I gotta

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 2>be honest. Thank god we're sponsored by Honda.

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 7>Honda the Yukon, all through the Yukon, the al Falcan

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 7>Highway was all gravel and it went It was.

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 6>Very, uh wind.

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 7>Winding, incredibly windy.

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 8>Because of World War Two, they made it really windy

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:07.959
<v Speaker 8>so that anybody straighten they wouldn't be able to wipe

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 8>out the whole convoy.

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.440
<v Speaker 6>So they made it like this all the way up

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 6>to the last so it.

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 7>Was crazy and all all the only other people on

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 7>the on the highway there was these big trucks delivering

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 7>up to Alaska, and every time they went by this

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 7>gravel would come up and we'd have to cover up.

0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, because you get gravel spit at you.

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, it was.

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 2>This sounds like my absolute nightmare.

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, Danielle and I I'm just staying

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 1>quiet because it's like this is the riders, like, yeah,

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait.

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I love this.

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to like when I have a camera Van

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 3>is when I have a camera Van, I'm like, what

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 3>are we doing? This is like the height of luxury.

0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 3>We should be on on bicycles or a motorcycle to

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 3>carry all our own gear.

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Going back to King saying, well, we just met two

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>hikers coming the other way who love so I thought

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 1>this was a good challenge, like June.

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 6>Asking how we recently?

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:13.439
<v Speaker 8>It's all paid, it's beautiful, They straightened it out, took

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 8>its huge campus, biggest one you can get.

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 7>Well, that's what I said, I said, if we go

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:23.080
<v Speaker 7>up again. Forty years later, I said, I want a mattress.

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 7>That's a couple exactly.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. You deserve it.

0:59:27.600 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, isn't there isn't there a four seasons in Alaska?

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 1>There's got to be a four seasons in Alaska?

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 3>There's There was an article that was written. Do you

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.280
<v Speaker 3>guys still have that article where some like reporter ran

0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 3>into you guys on your last year?

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 6>I was in Washington and a.

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Photo of my parents and it got published in the newspaper.

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys still have that? We should find that

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 3>because I would love to post that it's like basically

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 3>a profile of like, look at these crazy hippies in

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 3>their tiny motorcycle driving all the way up to we

0:59:58.080 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 3>were doing.

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 7>We were doing our laundry, the you know, the pair

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 7>of jeans that we were switching, the only change we had.

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.800
<v Speaker 7>So we were doing our laundry and he just came

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:11.880
<v Speaker 7>up and approached us, and he took our picture and

1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 7>got our names such, and then he said, uh, if

1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:20.000
<v Speaker 7>you make it. He was like, you know, this is Washington,

1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 7>You're still a long way to go. So if you

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:25.200
<v Speaker 7>make it, send me a postcard and tell me that.

1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:29.600
<v Speaker 7>So I did and that that's when he posted it.

1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 7>He said, they believe.

1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to see.

1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:35.120
<v Speaker 5>That.

1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Please, the movies, the movies that you made of writer

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:40.720
<v Speaker 1>as a little kid, robbery.

1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I think we actually need that. We need to plan

1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:43.560
<v Speaker 2>a screening up.

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I want to see all that.

1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:02.120
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we speaking of productions at redwood Shire. I have

1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you about something very near and dear

1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:09.920
<v Speaker 4>to this podcast and my heart grinders inline. I recently

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:13.240
<v Speaker 4>watched it and it was such a fun time.

1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Capsule brought back.

1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:18.280
<v Speaker 4>So many memories of shooting up there. It was very entertaining.

1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:21.960
<v Speaker 4>You guys, produced it. We shot it at your property.

1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:25.800
<v Speaker 4>What do you remember about that, that whole production and

1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:28.600
<v Speaker 4>having all those people there and and just that whole

1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 4>just producing that movie.

1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:35.480
<v Speaker 8>Well, I had to build the ramp, the halfpipe. Yeah,

1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:39.040
<v Speaker 8>the half pipe. Actually bought it from somebody else at

1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:44.240
<v Speaker 8>the dis reassembled there and.

1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:45.720
<v Speaker 6>Then I remember the batch stuff.

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:50.840
<v Speaker 3>It was a nine foot half pipe. It was huge,

1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:53.040
<v Speaker 3>and it was a big hand pipe.

1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:54.040
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I mean I.

1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't go on it. I was terrib but it was

1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:58.160
<v Speaker 3>like it was. But they put it right in the

1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:00.480
<v Speaker 3>meadow where we used to camp out in the Redwoods,

1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:02.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's just one of the most gorgeous spots

1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:05.360
<v Speaker 3>and so it was so perfect for filming because you

1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:07.280
<v Speaker 3>could just get these incredible shots in the middle of

1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:09.720
<v Speaker 3>the Redwoods. And yeah, I mean we attracted a lot

1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:11.400
<v Speaker 3>of talent because there was it was a big skating

1:02:11.520 --> 1:02:14.400
<v Speaker 3>community that somehow we got tapped into and came out

1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:15.080
<v Speaker 3>and just.

1:02:15.560 --> 1:02:20.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, guy what's his name? That started? Actually that was

1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:22.400
<v Speaker 8>because Angel went up there and filmed him up in

1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:26.360
<v Speaker 8>the Tahoe I can't remember his name, be still the

1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:31.000
<v Speaker 8>biggest name in skateboarding, Tony.

1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:34.520
<v Speaker 6>Hawk. Yeah, yeah, so it.

1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:36.919
<v Speaker 7>Was it's the same thing. You know. We we did

1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:41.840
<v Speaker 7>produce a feature here Buck Naked Arson few years later.

1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:46.640
<v Speaker 3>So much and what'd you say, I said, so much fun? Yeah,

1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Christine Lincoln, Rusty no questions As showed up and filmed

1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:55.560
<v Speaker 3>with us for like, we shot a whole feature in

1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:58.520
<v Speaker 3>like what twelve days or fourteen days or something. It

1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:00.720
<v Speaker 3>was like one of the first digital features. We were

1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:04.520
<v Speaker 3>using the same cameras that Lucas had developed for the

1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:06.760
<v Speaker 3>new Star Wars films, and there were only like six

1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:09.240
<v Speaker 3>of them in the world, but we got we got

1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:11.600
<v Speaker 3>them two of the cameras and shot a movie in

1:03:11.880 --> 1:03:14.280
<v Speaker 3>like no time. And that was Amy Snow who was

1:03:14.320 --> 1:03:18.840
<v Speaker 3>a pa, a phone pa on a stage pa at

1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:22.720
<v Speaker 3>boys script and then she handed me the script and

1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is great. We could probably shoot

1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:26.520
<v Speaker 3>this in my parents' property, and we did.

1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:27.600
<v Speaker 6>It was so much time.

1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:30.960
<v Speaker 4>But honestly, like truly, you two and writer and Shiloh

1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:34.080
<v Speaker 4>were so ahead of your time. Now, it's very common

1:03:34.120 --> 1:03:37.080
<v Speaker 4>practice for every child actor who has a family or

1:03:37.080 --> 1:03:40.000
<v Speaker 4>a team, they start a production company and they start

1:03:40.040 --> 1:03:43.240
<v Speaker 4>doing their own stuff. But that was not common practice

1:03:43.680 --> 1:03:46.200
<v Speaker 4>in the late eighties early nineties.

1:03:46.280 --> 1:03:49.080
<v Speaker 2>No, So what was that good.

1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:51.600
<v Speaker 6>What it Wasn't it as easy? Yeah? No, I could

1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:53.000
<v Speaker 6>see everybody would.

1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Do it yet exactly. And so that's my question is

1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:57.760
<v Speaker 4>that you guys being so ahead of your time. What

1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:59.960
<v Speaker 4>was that like for you going into it and being like,

1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:02.080
<v Speaker 4>we're just gonna We're gonna learn as we go.

1:04:04.880 --> 1:04:09.760
<v Speaker 6>It's a stupidity. Again, No, it was.

1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:12.080
<v Speaker 8>It was exciting to do, it was fun to do.

1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:16.120
<v Speaker 8>At the same time, it was not profitable, right, you

1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:17.400
<v Speaker 8>have to know what you're doing. You have to be

1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:20.880
<v Speaker 8>a marketing person or have a marketing person, and we didn't.

1:04:21.120 --> 1:04:24.400
<v Speaker 3>From my perspective, what was so? I mean, what's so

1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:28.720
<v Speaker 3>amazing about you guys? As you always just approach any

1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:30.720
<v Speaker 3>project and you just do it right, You just figure

1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:32.440
<v Speaker 3>it out. And you know, like when you didn't know

1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:34.160
<v Speaker 3>how to build a house, Dad, You've always said, you

1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.160
<v Speaker 3>just read a book, right, read a book, figured it

1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:39.120
<v Speaker 3>out and built a house. And I think you, you

1:04:39.240 --> 1:04:43.880
<v Speaker 3>guys so admirably approached all of filmmaking the exact same way,

1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:48.400
<v Speaker 3>which is exactly right. The problem is the industry of

1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood is a whole another Like making a film is

1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:53.760
<v Speaker 3>one thing, right, like putting a production together, getting the

1:04:53.800 --> 1:04:57.160
<v Speaker 3>creatives getting the equipment and like all of that, you

1:04:57.240 --> 1:04:59.640
<v Speaker 3>guys thrived at and we you know, we're so good

1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:01.920
<v Speaker 3>at beause is that that can do attitude that you

1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:05.160
<v Speaker 3>bring to everything you do was perfect for independent cinema

1:05:05.240 --> 1:05:07.880
<v Speaker 3>and perfect for making projects. The problem is once the

1:05:07.880 --> 1:05:11.800
<v Speaker 3>project is finished, you need you need money in capital,

1:05:11.840 --> 1:05:14.120
<v Speaker 3>and you need marketing, and you need distribution, and you

1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:16.720
<v Speaker 3>need all these attacks and you need every content and

1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:20.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, being up in the Redwoods, really really far

1:05:20.320 --> 1:05:22.680
<v Speaker 3>from Hollywood is not super helpful in that regard. And

1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't think either one of you wanted to be

1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:26.600
<v Speaker 3>like festivals.

1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:31.680
<v Speaker 7>No, no, we can produce things, but we don't. We can't.

1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:39.320
<v Speaker 6>Robert Record does right of a connection. No.

1:05:39.960 --> 1:05:44.560
<v Speaker 7>I think the value, at least with with Butt Naked

1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:49.240
<v Speaker 7>Arson and Grinders in Line earlier was I just wanted

1:05:49.280 --> 1:05:54.880
<v Speaker 7>to teach the boys that they can do it. If

1:05:54.920 --> 1:05:58.120
<v Speaker 7>they you know they can do it, you know it

1:05:58.160 --> 1:05:58.680
<v Speaker 7>can happen.

1:05:59.720 --> 1:06:00.400
<v Speaker 2>It's so smart.

1:06:00.480 --> 1:06:02.080
<v Speaker 7>They're both still in the business.

1:06:02.320 --> 1:06:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and what were your thoughts when writer decided he

1:06:05.240 --> 1:06:06.200
<v Speaker 4>wanted to stop acting?

1:06:07.120 --> 1:06:13.320
<v Speaker 6>Hmmm, all right, I am okay, no problem.

1:06:13.400 --> 1:06:16.120
<v Speaker 8>I like being home more than going this place. It

1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:18.120
<v Speaker 8>was fun for a while. You know, if you go

1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:18.880
<v Speaker 8>one or two, it's.

1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:22.000
<v Speaker 6>Like, Okay, I got to read all that books about it.

1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:23.720
<v Speaker 6>I reading four or five books at a time at

1:06:23.720 --> 1:06:26.000
<v Speaker 6>that time. I remember I could probably leave a book

1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:28.840
<v Speaker 6>somewhere and get another one to read it. So whenever

1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:32.800
<v Speaker 6>you going to quit Boymate's World, like sure, but.

1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I needed to hear so badly. Yeah, I

1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:39.280
<v Speaker 3>was under so much pressure at the age of sixteen.

1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:43.680
<v Speaker 3>I felt like the whole world was forcing me to

1:06:43.680 --> 1:06:45.880
<v Speaker 3>be on a TV show that I was not happy with,

1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:47.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, and I was just unhappy, and so I

1:06:47.720 --> 1:06:51.040
<v Speaker 3>really needed your support that it didn't matter to you

1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:53.080
<v Speaker 3>that you would love me no matter what. That you know,

1:06:53.400 --> 1:06:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I could. I could fail at boy Meets World and

1:06:56.520 --> 1:06:59.080
<v Speaker 3>still be a success in your eyes, you know. Like

1:06:59.120 --> 1:07:00.920
<v Speaker 3>that's that's what I know to hear from both of

1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:01.320
<v Speaker 3>you guys.

1:07:01.320 --> 1:07:02.400
<v Speaker 6>And you were there were.

1:07:02.400 --> 1:07:04.200
<v Speaker 7>Ye just knowing that then you were.

1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:07.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but it was fun to see all the other

1:07:07.960 --> 1:07:10.760
<v Speaker 8>stuff you got up with afterwards that we weren't.

1:07:10.600 --> 1:07:16.960
<v Speaker 7>Involved, you know, just well, I remember after you turned sixteen,

1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:20.720
<v Speaker 7>I didn't have to be on the set right with you,

1:07:21.600 --> 1:07:28.480
<v Speaker 7>and so I writer got at Loft and Downtown Los.

1:07:28.280 --> 1:07:30.760
<v Speaker 6>Angeles, and I left on his own.

1:07:31.040 --> 1:07:35.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and I other people were critical of that. How

1:07:35.960 --> 1:07:39.680
<v Speaker 7>can you leave a sixteen year old on their own?

1:07:40.080 --> 1:07:45.560
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, writers so ready to be that,

1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:49.520
<v Speaker 7>and he's so he's responsible. I'm not worried about that.

1:07:49.720 --> 1:07:52.800
<v Speaker 7>Plus he was working, you know, he had and you

1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:58.360
<v Speaker 7>that whole cast and crew when the swirled, we're looking

1:07:58.440 --> 1:07:59.280
<v Speaker 7>after him too.

1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Feel that.

1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Did you feel that confident right from the beginning with

1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:06.400
<v Speaker 4>it or was it something that at first you were

1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:08.880
<v Speaker 4>a little more hesitant about and then you grew into

1:08:08.960 --> 1:08:09.760
<v Speaker 4>the comfort of it.

1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:12.720
<v Speaker 7>I probably grew into the comfort just getting to know

1:08:12.760 --> 1:08:16.759
<v Speaker 7>everybody and the friendships and things, you know, being together

1:08:16.920 --> 1:08:20.200
<v Speaker 7>for a couple of years at that point, was you

1:08:20.280 --> 1:08:24.240
<v Speaker 7>felt together? And I just know he was being watched

1:08:24.320 --> 1:08:27.760
<v Speaker 7>over or taken care of, and he could take care

1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:31.280
<v Speaker 7>of himself even at sixteen. He was ready that old soul.

1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember, Lynn.

1:08:33.479 --> 1:08:35.920
<v Speaker 1>We actually we talked about that once because when I

1:08:36.120 --> 1:08:38.360
<v Speaker 1>because you had told me, you know, my parents weren't

1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:40.439
<v Speaker 1>out on the set all the time, and I was

1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:43.519
<v Speaker 1>by myself sixteen seventeen, and at first you had said

1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, you were like, I'm kind of amazed you're

1:08:45.240 --> 1:08:49.080
<v Speaker 1>here by yourself. And then when Ryder had the loft hisself,

1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you and I had to talk where you're like, I

1:08:51.240 --> 1:08:53.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of get it now you're if you're a responsible

1:08:53.320 --> 1:08:57.120
<v Speaker 1>person and you were ready for that, then it's what

1:08:57.160 --> 1:08:59.559
<v Speaker 1>you do. So yeah, we had a cool conversation about

1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that where you were like, Okay, I get I get

1:09:02.280 --> 1:09:04.000
<v Speaker 1>what you were doing, I get what your parents were doing.

1:09:04.040 --> 1:09:05.000
<v Speaker 3>And it worked.

1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:08.240
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he was he was pretty responsible this one.

1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:10.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean at first you were coming down. You were

1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:12.040
<v Speaker 3>going to come down like every other week. Do you remember, mom?

1:09:12.080 --> 1:09:15.120
<v Speaker 3>You were like, I'll come down every other week and

1:09:15.520 --> 1:09:17.120
<v Speaker 3>you only did it like twice, and then you were

1:09:17.160 --> 1:09:20.320
<v Speaker 3>like okay, yeah, because then you were just sleeping in

1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:22.560
<v Speaker 3>my loft, like we had like a separate bed on

1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:25.200
<v Speaker 3>the top for you, and it was like, this is uncomfortable.

1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:27.040
<v Speaker 3>This is a sixteen year old lost. I'll just get

1:09:27.120 --> 1:09:27.519
<v Speaker 3>out of here.

1:09:29.880 --> 1:09:32.960
<v Speaker 4>How does it make you feel now watching writer with

1:09:33.040 --> 1:09:36.719
<v Speaker 4>a family of his own, and what are your thoughts

1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:39.880
<v Speaker 4>if Indy wanted to become an actor, what do you

1:09:39.920 --> 1:09:40.680
<v Speaker 4>guys think about that?

1:09:42.400 --> 1:09:44.080
<v Speaker 7>Sure, so that's what he wants to do.

1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:52.120
<v Speaker 8>He's an actor already, yep, yeah, great, he's.

1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:54.240
<v Speaker 7>Taking acting clists right now, right right?

1:09:54.720 --> 1:09:58.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Yeah, he's just so good.

1:09:59.439 --> 1:10:02.120
<v Speaker 7>And he's been on a camera ever since he's been born,

1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:04.640
<v Speaker 7>so yeah, exactly.

1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:04.840
<v Speaker 3>We all have him.

1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Is there a possibility of the Great Toy Caper too?

1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that possible to play there?

1:10:11.680 --> 1:10:12.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

1:10:12.240 --> 1:10:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Writer, Yes, let's do it. Will you guys put bags

1:10:15.280 --> 1:10:15.960
<v Speaker 3>on your head again?

1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Can we can we be a part of this one?

1:10:19.000 --> 1:10:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I want to be in this film.

1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:28.160
<v Speaker 4>Well, I want to thank you both for coming on here,

1:10:28.320 --> 1:10:32.719
<v Speaker 4>and I also want to thank you for raising such

1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:39.120
<v Speaker 4>a special incredible I just truly like a one of

1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:41.759
<v Speaker 4>a kind man who has meant so much to both

1:10:41.840 --> 1:10:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Will and I over the years. And I want to

1:10:45.000 --> 1:10:49.840
<v Speaker 4>end with asking you of all of the amazing qualities

1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Writer has, and there are many, what do you think

1:10:54.320 --> 1:10:58.320
<v Speaker 4>your favorite quality about Writer is? If you could, if

1:10:58.360 --> 1:11:01.439
<v Speaker 4>you could select one quality that Writer has and say

1:11:02.160 --> 1:11:04.559
<v Speaker 4>this is something I would want for everyone to have

1:11:04.600 --> 1:11:06.679
<v Speaker 4>her to experience. What would you say is your favorite

1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:07.320
<v Speaker 4>thing about him?

1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:10.080
<v Speaker 6>I agree, there's so many.

1:11:12.040 --> 1:11:18.080
<v Speaker 7>His wisdom, yeah, wisdom and intelligence yeah that he applies to.

1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:26.240
<v Speaker 8>Ah, yeah, I'm understanding, which he had when he was

1:11:26.400 --> 1:11:27.280
<v Speaker 8>two years old.

1:11:27.320 --> 1:11:28.200
<v Speaker 7>He sensed it.

1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:31.120
<v Speaker 4>So man, I want to see two year old, writer,

1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:33.720
<v Speaker 4>I really need me, You really need to do a screening.

1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Of these crying over the girl he just woke up with. Yeah,

1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:39.280
<v Speaker 1>two years, two years old. He's already been a relationship

1:11:39.320 --> 1:11:44.320
<v Speaker 1>for five years. He's angsty, he can't get over her. Yeah.

1:11:44.320 --> 1:11:50.160
<v Speaker 7>Man, he enjoys that as a process.

1:11:50.200 --> 1:11:50.639
<v Speaker 6>I guess.

1:11:50.920 --> 1:11:51.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1:11:51.280 --> 1:11:53.679
<v Speaker 2>It motivates him, it keeps him going.

1:11:56.280 --> 1:11:56.479
<v Speaker 6>Great.

1:11:56.560 --> 1:12:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Thank you guys so much for this question.

1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:03.200
<v Speaker 1>So cool.

1:12:03.760 --> 1:12:06.080
<v Speaker 2>It's so good to see you. And we're inviting ourselves

1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:07.360
<v Speaker 2>up to Redwoodshire too.

1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I think we should actually do whole world journey and

1:12:13.720 --> 1:12:16.360
<v Speaker 3>should I think absolutely, all.

1:12:16.360 --> 1:12:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, we'll schedule that. Thank you both so much for me.

1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Take care bye.

1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, writer. They killed it, crushed.

1:12:37.880 --> 1:12:38.640
<v Speaker 1>They crushed.

1:12:40.479 --> 1:12:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're great. Oh my god, I may miss them

1:12:43.000 --> 1:12:44.479
<v Speaker 3>so much. I just want to be with them right now.

1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, crossing the river like meeting two people who've

1:12:49.120 --> 1:12:51.880
<v Speaker 1>just lost everything in the river, and your dad's first

1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:53.759
<v Speaker 1>instinct is sounds like a challenge.

1:12:53.800 --> 1:12:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a good challenge. I'm in, let's go, Lynn.

1:12:57.560 --> 1:12:59.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean the stories that they tell, like, I mean, yeah,

1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:03.959
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's funny because I didn't really have perspective

1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:06.920
<v Speaker 3>on it until relatively recently, you know. I feel like

1:13:06.960 --> 1:13:08.680
<v Speaker 3>when I was little, it was always just like, well,

1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:10.680
<v Speaker 3>this is what you do. You you go into the

1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:13.280
<v Speaker 3>wilderness for six days and you figure it out and

1:13:13.280 --> 1:13:16.080
<v Speaker 3>you have a machete and you like build yourself a shelter,

1:13:16.160 --> 1:13:19.240
<v Speaker 3>and it's just like and what like, I know that's

1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:21.559
<v Speaker 3>not you know, And I used to put so much

1:13:21.560 --> 1:13:25.040
<v Speaker 3>pressure on myself too, Like I remember, you know, like

1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:27.599
<v Speaker 3>going back to how my dad never wants to pay

1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:29.360
<v Speaker 3>for anything. Like part of that is you don't pay

1:13:29.400 --> 1:13:31.880
<v Speaker 3>anybody to fix anything in your house. You fix it yourself,

1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:35.080
<v Speaker 3>like that is what you do. And I remember when

1:13:35.120 --> 1:13:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Alex and I first started dating, like something went wrong

1:13:37.640 --> 1:13:40.559
<v Speaker 3>with our old O'Keefe Merritt's stove, like one of those

1:13:40.560 --> 1:13:42.639
<v Speaker 3>old like la stoves at every like, and we had

1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:44.920
<v Speaker 3>one in Laurel Canyon and it was just a disaster.

1:13:44.960 --> 1:13:47.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like and I'm sitting there trying to fix this

1:13:47.160 --> 1:13:51.040
<v Speaker 3>stupid gas stove. I know nothing about fixing stoves, but

1:13:51.120 --> 1:13:54.479
<v Speaker 3>I also won't bring myself to like pay somebody to

1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:56.599
<v Speaker 3>do it. And Alex is just like sat me down.

1:13:56.680 --> 1:14:00.479
<v Speaker 3>She's like it's okay, Like I don't think you're less

1:14:00.520 --> 1:14:02.920
<v Speaker 3>of a man. If you can't do this because you

1:14:02.960 --> 1:14:06.040
<v Speaker 3>can't fix a stove, it's okay. Rider just you know what,

1:14:06.080 --> 1:14:08.760
<v Speaker 3>you have other qualities. You can pay somebody use those

1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:11.400
<v Speaker 3>other qualities to make money, and then you pay somebody

1:14:11.400 --> 1:14:14.160
<v Speaker 3>else who's very good at fixing a stove to fix

1:14:14.200 --> 1:14:15.479
<v Speaker 3>it for you, and that that's okay.

1:14:15.600 --> 1:14:18.879
<v Speaker 2>And the time you save is also worth something.

1:14:19.080 --> 1:14:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And it was like such a like okay, okay,

1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:24.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, and just ever since then, I have to

1:14:24.400 --> 1:14:26.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, I still have to remind myself. But it's like, yeah,

1:14:27.080 --> 1:14:29.280
<v Speaker 3>but my parents are you know, they're both just amazing people.

1:14:29.280 --> 1:14:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I love them so much. They they and I Yeah.

1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:33.599
<v Speaker 1>How long they've been married now?

1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, since seventy four. No, they bought the property

1:14:38.800 --> 1:14:40.600
<v Speaker 3>in seventy four, but they actually didn't get married. I

1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:45.559
<v Speaker 3>don't think until seventy seven. Okay, yeah, forty six years, yeah,

1:14:45.640 --> 1:14:48.000
<v Speaker 3>forty six years. But it's so funny because in their

1:14:48.280 --> 1:14:51.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, for their generation, they were late getting married

1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:54.080
<v Speaker 3>and having kids. You know, they dated for six years

1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:57.080
<v Speaker 3>before they got they actually got married. But you know,

1:14:57.200 --> 1:15:00.960
<v Speaker 3>my mom was thirty thirty two whatever when I was born,

1:15:01.080 --> 1:15:03.800
<v Speaker 3>and that was so late. Now it's pretty pretty.

1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now now you're actually on the early side.

1:15:06.280 --> 1:15:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:15:08.160 --> 1:15:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your parents are amazing.

1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I have a really wonderful photo of my parents and

1:15:12.320 --> 1:15:15.600
<v Speaker 4>your parents on the cruise and they have they have

1:15:15.760 --> 1:15:18.439
<v Speaker 4>swapped and my dad is sitting on your mom's lap,

1:15:18.520 --> 1:15:20.439
<v Speaker 4>and I think my mom is sitting on your dad's

1:15:20.520 --> 1:15:22.280
<v Speaker 4>lap and it's a very cute.

1:15:23.240 --> 1:15:26.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what, Let's talk about cruises. Let's we'll do

1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:27.439
<v Speaker 2>the cruise episode, bring them back.

1:15:27.680 --> 1:15:29.240
<v Speaker 3>We do have to have the Sale with the Stars

1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:31.400
<v Speaker 3>cruise episode because we have not talked about that, but.

1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:34.160
<v Speaker 4>That we have, that's a that's we will do that

1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:38.439
<v Speaker 4>for sure. Oh yeah, Well, thank you all for listening

1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:40.400
<v Speaker 4>to this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you

1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:42.720
<v Speaker 4>can follow us on Instagram pod meets World Show. You

1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:45.000
<v Speaker 4>can send us your emails pod meets World Show at

1:15:45.040 --> 1:15:46.040
<v Speaker 4>gmail dot com.

1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:47.639
<v Speaker 2>And we have merch.

1:15:48.320 --> 1:15:50.559
<v Speaker 1>It's okay to hire someone else to fix your merch.

1:15:52.360 --> 1:15:54.080
<v Speaker 2>We have our in Sorcal shirt.

1:15:54.439 --> 1:15:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm I'm a big fan of the Inscial and

1:15:57.800 --> 1:16:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Sorcel shirt, so check that one out.

1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:01.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, in Sorcal shirt.

1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:03.240
<v Speaker 3>And Sorcer shirt and Sorcal shirt.

1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:05.120
<v Speaker 2>If you haven't checked it out yet. Wow, I'm in writers.

1:16:06.200 --> 1:16:07.799
<v Speaker 4>If you haven't checked that out yet, go to Podmeets

1:16:07.800 --> 1:16:09.799
<v Speaker 4>Worldshow dot com and see for yourself.

1:16:09.920 --> 1:16:11.519
<v Speaker 2>A writer send us out.

1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:17.360
<v Speaker 3>We love you all. Pod dismissed, Whoop Whoop. Podmeets World

1:16:17.400 --> 1:16:19.960
<v Speaker 3>is an iHeart podcast producer and hosted by Danielle Fischel,

1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Wilfridell and Ryder Strong executive producers, Jensen Karp and Amy

1:16:23.720 --> 1:16:27.479
<v Speaker 3>Sugarman Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,

1:16:27.520 --> 1:16:31.439
<v Speaker 3>Tarasubasch producer, Maddie Moore engineer and boy Meets World Superman

1:16:31.600 --> 1:16:34.959
<v Speaker 3>Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon.

1:16:35.240 --> 1:16:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Follow us on Instagram at Podmeets World Show or email

1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:44.480
<v Speaker 3>us at Podmeats World Show at gmail dot com