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Speaker 2: Yay, what a beautiful introduction. It sounded a little bit

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, you guys look fantastic.

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Speaker 8: This guy was so sharp, but you know, really early

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Speaker 8: And actually we talked about that because he was so

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Speaker 7: He's always even that's a little little type he was.

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Speaker 3: Toy Caper, The Great Toy Caper, and you have it? Yes,

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00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: they just showed into some of these. I haven't seen

444
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: them in years, but the Great Toy Caper was the

445
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Speaker 3: first one. I was like two and a half. Shiloh's

446
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: like three or four. And I mean, what I love

447
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: about these videos now is and then, like I said,

448
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it a while, but like, my parents

449
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: are like always the bad guys or like, and they

450
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: are so committed and they would, you know, they like

451
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 3: they would do this this particular story. They were stealing

452
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: tolleys from the sandbox and so they wore bags over

453
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: their head and they play these bad guys and they're

454
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Speaker 3: all like, and it is and then my grandparents are

455
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Speaker 3: get involved.

456
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

457
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 8: It was a family everybody even yeah, even your grandmother.

458
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

459
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Speaker 3: We would spend all day making these movies. Oh yeah,

460
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: and they were inspired by whatever. Like Shiloh came home

461
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 3: from school one day he had created some robot character

462
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: at school. So then remember we made Dracula meats Robot

463
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: one twenty six or whatever, and it was like, yeah,

464
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: and my dad played a mad scientist who built a

465
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Speaker 3: child because their son died. I died, right.

466
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Speaker 6: The story.

467
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 7: Good So that you know, the boys were exposed to

468
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 7: being on a camera, very arrowly on and it was

469
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 7: always a fun story that we told, which was it

470
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Speaker 7: was their stories. They're the ones that wrote them.

471
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Speaker 8: Yeah, they made up the ideas that we just had

472
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Speaker 8: the fun doing the editing stuff.

473
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Speaker 1: But I love how you you were wondering if you're like,

474
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of artistic. And then you're talking

475
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Speaker 1: about making films as a family over and over and

476
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Speaker 1: over again.

477
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Speaker 3: That's incredibles. By the way they would edit, they my

478
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 3: mom would play piano, they'd add music like these were

479
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: like you know, they were working and that's the thing

480
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: they was all. It was like basically, my brother and

481
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 3: I were always being told that like whatever we imagined,

482
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: the family was willing to spend days making a reality

483
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: out of which is just like that's the greatest gift

484
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: you can give, Like I want to be a little filmmaker.

485
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Speaker 1: You know.

486
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, this is important and let's learn the

487
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: skills to figure it out. So, yeah, you guys are

488
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: incredibly creative. You also both are musically gifted. Dad, you

489
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: can sing really well. Mom you play the piano. Like

490
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Speaker 3: you guys have lots of artistry. Yeah, you just never

491
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Speaker 3: had it in your lives, Like you never made a

492
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Speaker 3: career out of it. Right, But Dad also does stained glass.

493
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: You can see a little bit of the stained glass

494
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: behind him. He did these stained glass windows all throughout

495
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Speaker 3: the house.

496
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Speaker 4: I love the staying somedays I remember them from your

497
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Speaker 4: house yeah, yeah.

498
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Speaker 1: But the correlation is kind of interesting between making a

499
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Speaker 1: film and building a home. I mean, you're building something from.

500
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Speaker 3: Scratch that's artistic.

501
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: Whether it's something like building a home or making a film,

502
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: you're still starting with nothing and creating something amaze. So

503
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the the artistry just in building the home,

504
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: it is there in itself. So yeah, I love to

505
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: hear you guys are both searching for like, well, I

506
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: guess we're kind of artistic people. As you're sitting in

507
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Speaker 1: the home you built by hand, talking about the films

508
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: you were making Unrenewable.

509
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: So how did you then tackle the concept of entering

510
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: Hollywood like without any real connections and in a small

511
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: little town that you live in.

512
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 8: That was because Sharlow and Ryder were taking hacking lessons

513
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 8: and one of the antient Asian an Asian contacted the

514
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 8: leading person in the acting class and said, do you

515
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Speaker 8: have anybody that can go for audition?

516
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Speaker 6: Audition for what it was for?

517
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Speaker 7: And so so we videotaped, we got the side, so

518
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 7: we video and and we got they got screen tested.

519
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 7: They were down to five kids in the nation, five

520
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 7: little boys, and two of them were horse They flew

521
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 7: as they flew us down to Los Angeles. We met

522
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Speaker 7: Warren Baby.

523
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Speaker 6: Uh.

524
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 7: Kids went in and they didn't get the part. They

525
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 7: had no idea what we were doing. The limousine picked

526
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Speaker 7: us up.

527
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: The limos all we cared about you guys were and

528
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: then yeah, you guys are just you were like trying

529
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: to explain who Warren Baby was and we just could

530
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: could not.

531
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Speaker 1: Ye.

532
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Speaker 3: We were hoping because at that point Madonna was attached

533
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 3: to the project, and that's all I remember, being like, oh,

534
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: maybe we'll meet Madonna.

535
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is this is for Charlie corsmost part.

536
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, kid kid.

537
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Speaker 7: The first audition they ever did, they were screen tested

538
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 7: on and so then after that we were getting agents

539
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 7: and who knew that saying hey, we you know, do you.

540
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: Guys remember what we did? Then when we went into

541
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: the audition, like how green and naive we were.

542
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, you were through the pages or something trying to.

543
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 7: So they went off, they went off, they improved.

544
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: How old were you writer? At nine? Okay? So Warren

545
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: Batty started trying to improv with me, and I thought

546
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Speaker 3: I was the first kid in the audition, like out

547
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: of the kids there, and I thought, oh, I have

548
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: the wrong pages NIGHTM well, that's written on my script.

549
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: You know, I've been reading for like four years, and

550
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm doing something wrong. And then, like an idiot,

551
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: I come out and tell the entire waiting room they

552
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: were saying lines that weren't on the script. They wanted

553
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: us to make them up on the spot. So then

554
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: all the other kids were totally prepared.

555
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, I took one for the tea you took.

556
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: So then how did you guys deal with that rejection

557
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: when neither of them booked it?

558
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: How did they handle it? And how did you guys

559
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: handle it?

560
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 7: How did you handle it? Rider?

561
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 6: We did didn't any to us.

562
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 7: It was just exciting adventure and yeah, you just got

563
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 7: to go in a limo and me orange Baby, I.

564
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Mean so cool.

565
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember thinking it was It was an.

566
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Speaker 7: After that we had the uh. They auditioned for Lemiz

567
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 7: for the live performance in San Francisco, and Ride was

568
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 7: booked that day. Charlotte was on a wait list to

569
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 7: see how tall, so he was a couple of months

570
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 7: later he auditioned again, but Bridan was booked right away.

571
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 6: Was too tall, but it had grown too much.

572
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: So they measured us every week on Lima's Yeah, they

573
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: were a kid on stage.

574
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Speaker 1: So what was that like having to bring rider because

575
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I you know, when we you do live stage, obviously

576
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: the schedule is grueling. So what was that like having

577
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: to shuttle him back and forth from San Francis Go

578
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: because you're you guys are what an hour hour and

579
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Speaker 1: a half outside.

580
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 7: Of the store and a half?

581
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

582
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Speaker 7: There?

583
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: And was that every day.

584
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 6: Six days a week, one one day off?

585
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 9: But uh, well you know Matt das two days performance, Yeah,

586
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 9: Wednesday and Saturday.

587
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 7: But there was you know, what do you call curtain

588
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 7: call at the end, they had a standing ovation every

589
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 7: night and Writer, you wanted to stay for that, you know,

590
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 7: it's thrilling And that was at eleven fifteen at night.

591
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 7: Oh so then we had to drive home there, so

592
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 7: it was crazy.

593
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: What do you remember most about his stage debut?

594
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 7: I I remember the audition. He yeah, we were practicing

595
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 7: what we're going to what we were going to sing,

596
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 7: and Writer changed his mind I think right before we

597
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 7: got in there to sing the Battle Hymn of the

598
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 7: Republic instead of like, I forget what he was supposed

599
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 7: to do. But anyway, and then you they had him

600
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 7: crawl across the stage singing the song.

601
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Speaker 3: Right because Cavarro has to die on stage. Yeah, so

602
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: I haven't seen.

603
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: It, so thanks spoiler alert.

604
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: Have you never seen mish? We talked about this, we

605
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet. Yeah. So Gavroche has this this

606
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: like like rousing theme song about how little people know

607
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: and little people find it. It's actually been completely cut

608
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: down the latest edition, which is a disaster. In the

609
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: original play, he had this whole song and then he

610
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Speaker 3: runs across He jumps over the barricade to go get

611
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: bullets because he's quicker and smaller than any of the

612
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 3: other like adults, and get shot. But he has to

613
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: like sing his He's singing his like song while he's

614
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: getting shot three times. It was a great yeah, and

615
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: so what for my audition? They were like I sang

616
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: the battle him in the Republic, and they're like, now

617
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: sing it, but you're dying and you're crawling across stage.

618
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: Whenever I pointed to you, you get shot and you

619
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: have to keep singing, which is you know basically, And

620
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: I of course loved it.

621
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Speaker 7: I remember though, because I had gotten new clothes for

622
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 7: you to go. You were worried that it got old

623
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 7: dusty from the stage because you had to crawl across

624
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 7: the Oh.

625
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: You were like, sorry, mom, my clothes got dirty.

626
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that was it was exciting though. It was

627
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 7: an exciting time.

628
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: After two and a half years.

629
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Speaker 2: He was cheating while you were pregnant. Were pregnant? Yeah,

630
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: about thirteen women. More like if I would have stayed

631
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: married to Max, I think you would have cheated forever.

632
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 6: It was.

633
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: It was just toxic relationship.

634
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 8: Michael Cousin returns to wind Down with Janet Kramer.

635
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Cousins.

636
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 8: You don't want to miss this three parts re unions.

637
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.

638
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: Were you ever worried that both of them being in

639
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: entertainment as actors would create competition between the two of them?

640
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 6: Sure, oh yeah, yeah, because they are going through the

641
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 6: same part sometimes.

642
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, because they're only eighteen months apart, so they were

643
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 7: constantly auditioning for the same part.

644
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 8: But we're both working on the TV series at the

645
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 8: same time too. That's like the complicated. But luckily I

646
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 8: had a job as a firefighter and I was able

647
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 8: to trade days so I could be Like when even

648
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 8: Rider got a movie in the New Mexico, New Mexico. Yeah,

649
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 8: and I was able to trade a couple of weeks

650
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 8: to go there for that. I can't remember the name

651
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 8: of the movie.

652
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: You remember, writer, The Long Kill. It was a TV Yes, yeah.

653
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: This is why you're still on Boy Meets World too.

654
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: I think.

655
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: No, that was before Boy was before Boy. Yeah. Yeah,

656
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: you and I spent like three weeks in New Mexico together.

657
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: I just remember playing cards constantly, and yeah.

658
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: What card games? Did you play?

659
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: Egyptian Rat? You taught me that.

660
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: You taught me that game game.

661
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: I don't remember it now, but I a great way

662
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 3: to kill time on a set with your dad when

663
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Speaker 3: you're eleven years old.

664
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Speaker 7: We uh.

665
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Speaker 3: Pile you have to like slash to slap the pile

666
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Speaker 3: and you have doubles. I think you can call it

667
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: Egyptian Rat screw it but whatever, Yeah, or Egyptian War.

668
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, my dad and I played that, and yeah,

669
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: we just had I remember, we had a great time.

670
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: And we went and saw the The Cliff Dwellings and uh,

671
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: you know, I had had a lot of downtime because

672
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: I was a very small part in this movie. But yeah,

673
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: and then I went to Australia for a job with

674
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: you mom. Yeah, yeah, they took turns and then my

675
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: brother would be like, Charlotte was off doing movies in

676
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: North Carolina. A bunch of.

677
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 7: It was. It was crazy.

678
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember hearing about then and Boy Meets World

679
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: came up? Was this just another another one in the

680
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: long line of auditions or did you think that maybe

681
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: this was going to be special? I mean, do you

682
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: remember hearing.

683
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: About the show?

684
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 6: Nothing about it.

685
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 8: It was just it was any other audition, and it

686
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 8: was surprising that there was lasted seven years.

687
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 6: That was incredible.

688
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 8: But it was such a good show right from the

689
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 8: beginning that you knew it was going to last. But

690
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 8: then Ryders part got bigger and bigger scenes.

691
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I listened to you guys your podcast.

692
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 8: I'm amazed how much I didn't know when all behind

693
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 8: the scenes and what you guys did it is amazing.

694
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: I know my mom says the same thing.

695
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: My mom's like, man, I feel like I feel like

696
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: I knew it all, She's like, And then I realize

697
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: we all think we know it all because we just

698
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 4: have our own little POV.

699
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 6: You're right, yeah, yeah.

700
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 7: Well, but you know, at least those moms were.

701
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: There all the time, exactly.

702
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: I know my parents still ask what a podcast is,

703
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: so a little bit a little bit different. But yeah, yeah,

704
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: but mom, you were there for the first really the

705
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: first three seasons consistently, right, Oh yeah.

706
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: So what was that like for you?

707
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, initially it was very exciting me and

708
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 7: everybody and seeing, yeah, how it all works. But it

709
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 7: got boring very quickly.

710
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

711
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 7: You didn't have I mean, you weren't being paid to

712
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 7: be there, you know, so it was you know, but

713
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 7: it was a job and I was supposed to stay

714
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 7: within sight and sound of my child kind of thing.

715
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 7: But he was in school and I knew he was

716
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 7: fine in the school with David Combs and Wesley and

717
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 7: uh so I got to read a lot of books.

718
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 7: Initially I was happy about because when you have when

719
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 7: you're raising boys out in the country, you never have

720
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 7: time to read a book.

721
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: So that was that was nice.

722
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 7: I was able to catch up with reading a lot

723
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 7: of biographies.

724
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 6: That's all. I remember. Many times I spent there was

725
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 6: just reading a book. Yeah.

726
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: I mean it's such a sacrifice for you, you know, like

727
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: you could have with those days, you could have been

728
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: working you could have been doing, you know, anything else

729
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 4: you wanted to do for yourself, but instead, for no money,

730
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: you're sitting on a set literally quietly doing nothing.

731
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 7: You know.

732
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: Thankfully you liked to read, so you got to accomplish

733
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: you know, you got to read a lot of books,

734
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: and I know you got you know, for my mom,

735
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 4: you were a real source of knowledge and wisdom because

736
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: you guys had been in the industry certainly for a

737
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: lot longer than we had, and my mom looked up

738
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: to you so much, and my mom has such fond

739
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: memories of spending time with you on set.

740
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

741
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the set of Boybet's World like in particular?

742
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 6: Mom?

743
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 7: What was it?

744
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 6: What?

745
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: What was the set of boy Meets World like as

746
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: compared to other sets or like the group of people,

747
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: the cast, the crew to Crown?

748
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 7: Okay, I the one that really stood out for me

749
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 7: was that you had done a guest spot on Home

750
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 7: Improvement and I think they were right next door. Yeah,

751
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 7: but anyway, but you were there for one or two weeks.

752
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 7: In fact, it was a Halloween which they were getting

753
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: nearby there. But the three kids, the three boys that

754
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 7: were on Home Improvement, they were being yelled at I was.

755
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 7: I was upsetting to see how they treated them, you know.

756
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 7: So I really appreciate the fact that the whole of crew,

757
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 7: everybody in Boy Meet's World, they respected you as actors

758
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 7: and professionals. And I never remember anyone ever yelling or

759
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 7: degrading to any of you. So that was that was.

760
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 7: I was very impressed with how well they treated you

761
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 7: as as and treated you like professionals that you were.

762
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that the Home Improvement Boys have talked

763
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 4: about that. I heard things about that set that where yeah,

764
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: the kids there were treated like second class citizens basically

765
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: friend and not actors or you know, other professionals. So

766
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure that was quite a change where Boy Meets

767
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: World definitely felt more like a family environment.

768
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, and very professional.

769
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: How's the thing. Yeah, Boy Me World was just sort

770
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: of an inversion and that the kids were. I mean

771
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: it was called boy right, I mean it was built

772
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: around band. It was like the show started with the kids.

773
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: The adults were cast around him essentially, you know. So, yeah,

774
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: there was no there was no avoiding the fact that

775
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: the show only existed for child actors.

776
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, good point, that's true.

777
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 8: It's just like the one child that was on the

778
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 8: mommies who was so far towards them the good parts,

779
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 8: But it wasn't like the kid's story. So on the

780
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 8: last of two seasons that was.

781
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: Chilte was just like making out with a girl on

782
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 3: the couch every week, right, And how is that different?

783
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: Then by season three or four with you yeah.

784
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: Girl and che exactly, that would be literally an.

785
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: Extent in his part. It was like a recurring joke

786
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: that he was just always laying on the couch making

787
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: girl and like that was his entire world.

788
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 8: Flipping Berg is as joineder or something really yeah, yeah,

789
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 8: something weird like that.

790
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Now, did you ever worry about the kind of you know,

791
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: we we've heard about. It was mostly in the in

792
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: the eighties, so we weren't there. We were coming up after.

793
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: But did you ever worry about Rider or Shiloh falling

794
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: into the young actor trap of you know, what Hollywood

795
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: could do with clubs or going out and partying or

796
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Was that ever a concern in

797
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: any way?

798
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 6: No, never thought touched together kids, No, it was never something.

799
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 7: Well, we all also made a point to fly home

800
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 7: every week, and we literally live in a redwood forest

801
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 7: right up here in northern California, and I just always said,

802
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 7: I want to I want to keep them grounded in

803
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 7: the redwoods.

804
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: Yep. So yeah, and that's that's really smart.

805
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: You can limit the exposure and limit the downtime in

806
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: the environment. And and even if you're going to have

807
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: a very hands off approach in the redwood forest, you know,

808
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 4: you know what's out there. At least it feels a

809
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: little it feels like you have a little bit more

810
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: control then you do.

811
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: I mean, kids might get stabbed, but that's not.

812
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: Exactly that can happen.

813
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: But no, that's true. I mean I think that's one

814
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous combinations of a young child actor

815
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: is a lot of money and a lot of time,

816
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: and so you put those two things together and sometimes

817
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: it's not a great combination. So yeah, I think we

818
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: all kind of avoided that that hole, which is great.

819
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: But I know that one of the things that made

820
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: me feel so good, especially one time, Lynn, was that

821
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: I knew that you started to really trust me, uh

822
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: with hanging out with Ryder because we were going somewhere

823
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: and You're like, I don't want to go here, just

824
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: take the Previa, and you tossed me the keys to

825
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: your car and you were like, you just take them,

826
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: let's go. And I had everybody in the car. They

827
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: were just driving your car around. I was like, Oh,

828
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: this is good. She trust me, now, this is awesome.

829
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: So I remember that. Yeah, I remember feeling good about that.

830
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 7: You were the older, you know, the elder in the groups.

831
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: That was so great.

832
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

833
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, we lived initially, you Will and Rider and Child

834
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 7: and I were all in Oak Woods.

835
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Lee and Lee Lee. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.

836
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 4: So as Rider got a little bit older, he ended

837
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 4: up being on the cover of every teen bop mag

838
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 4: magazine you could possibly think of. What was that like

839
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 4: for you as parents to see your son be a

840
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 4: teen heart throb?

841
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 6: Felt good about it.

842
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 7: But I still have a whole chest with drawers full

843
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 7: with all those magazines pictures.

844
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: I love that.

845
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 7: So I did collect them. I did, you know, I'd

846
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 7: go and buy the magazine and see what they had

847
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 7: to say.

848
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 8: Niece had to take care of, niece had to take

849
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 8: care of so much, it was incredible.

850
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 6: That's right. My cousin Alicia, Yeah, Alicia, Yeah, she came

851
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 6: up to call over. It was really nice. So much work.

852
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: What do you don't all the letters.

853
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: Right, she read all of them, and that's when you

854
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: then started doing the headshots with the printed autograph, right,

855
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: So you would get a headshot sign one of them,

856
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: and then they would make copies of it.

857
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 6: And you do too.

858
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all did that.

859
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to, you need to.

860
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 6: There's just a bit much. I wouldn't want to do

861
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 6: it myself, that's for sure.

862
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: And so king did anybody at the fire station, like

863
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 4: what did your friends think?

864
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: In your small little town? You have these two kids.

865
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: That that strike it kind of big in Hollywood, Like,

866
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: you come from this tiny town and you have two

867
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: very famous young men in your family.

868
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: What did people say to you?

869
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Did that?

870
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: Did people know?

871
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, they knew, but I can't remember being anything special.

872
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: They just didn't care.

873
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 7: Say to this day. Asked about what's weird? Yeah, yeah,

874
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 7: when we got the fireman's ball, yeah.

875
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 6: The fire department.

876
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, those guys were really impressed for some reason. Yeah,

877
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 8: I think locally, I don't of course, right here country,

878
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 8: what's local? You don't have all these people around you family.

879
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: It's like a fifteen min drive to the town of Sebastopol,

880
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 3: which is a town of seven thousand people. That's a

881
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: that's that's a drive away.

882
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

883
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, but writer, our podcast has made local press.

884
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: We've been in your paper. I imagine you were probably

885
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: in the local paper back then too, No.

886
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: You know, I mean I think it goes back to

887
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: the idea that like no one really cared. Nobody cares

888
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: because we were kids show. So yeah, we were sort

889
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: of flying under the radar at home. Like I remember

890
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: just I would go home and like Insanoma County basically

891
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 3: feel invisible, Like I felt like a totally normal.

892
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: Which is one of the reasons you loved it.

893
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: We wanted to.

894
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why we came home every weekend.

895
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

896
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, when I ended up at the

897
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: high school I ended up at, which is you know,

898
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 3: a very alternative, you know, out in the woods, hippie school,

899
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: Like if anything, I got made fun of for being Hollywood,

900
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: you know, like if if I dressed, if I cared

901
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: about how I looked, if I if I I ever

902
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: had product in my hair, and it was like just

903
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: pure mockery. I remember my teacher calling me out, like

904
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: talking about consumerism and and how how ridiculous and like

905
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: somehow he found out that we had more than one

906
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: VCR and like he like made fun of me in

907
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: front of the entire school that like I had, how

908
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: dare somebody have more? And it's like, but this is

909
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: what I do for a living, Like, yeah, video equipment

910
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: is kind of important. But I felt bad, If anything,

911
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: I felt bad about being an actor in Its.

912
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 8: Funny because you always wanted to quit and go back.

913
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 8: It's not always that one period through the schooling.

914
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 7: Writer you mentioned about the high school. The schooling was tough,

915
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 7: you know, because they were when they were smaller, they

916
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 7: were going to the public school. But they don't want

917
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 7: they want the child there in the seat. They get

918
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 7: the money that way scare in California, and so for

919
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 7: him to be pulled out all the time for even

920
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 7: in an audition and then more, it was difficult. It

921
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 7: was just hard, right. So we ended up we ended

922
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 7: up looking at several private schools around the area that

923
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 7: could be that would work. And the one we did find,

924
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 7: I mean we had we had actually rafted we're river

925
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 7: rafting with the husband of the owner of the school,

926
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 7: and we were on one of the trips with her

927
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 7: and her family and I was talking to her about

928
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 7: it and she goes, oh, we can work something out.

929
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 7: We can, you know. And luckily both both the boys were.

930
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 6: Liked school.

931
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 7: They were they could be trusted with assignments and get

932
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 7: them done. Even though they were off someplace doing the

933
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 7: acting and the job, they would get the work done.

934
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 7: So every three weeks when there was hiatus, they could

935
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 7: come back and get their hand the work in.

936
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, that must have felt nice to have that

937
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: one less worry on your plate of like, oh, are

938
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 4: they getting an education?

939
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: You always knew that they were. Yeah, yeah.

940
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 7: Unluckily you guys were. You had a great schooling.

941
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: The best.

942
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

943
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: Wesley and David were just two of so good, the

944
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: best in the world.

945
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

946
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: I truthfully would put either one of them up against

947
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: the best teacher anybody in the world and be like, yeah,

948
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: dare you to do better than these two?

949
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: So I have a.

950
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: Question because we when Jen Fischer came on, we had

951
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Danielle's dating history, and

952
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: I think it's only fair that we do the same

953
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: when we talk about Rider, because Ryder has so. I

954
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: met him he was twelve, he'd already been married for

955
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: thirty two.

956
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: Years, falling in line with the old man inside the

957
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: young man's thought.

958
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has been relationship guy since day one that

959
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: I met him, and I was wondering if you could

960
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: talk just a little bit about I mean, a man

961
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: who wears his heart on his slee leave when it

962
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: comes to the relationships he's in. What was it like

963
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: raising somebody who has been in love you know one

964
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: and there's I think people he's a tortured in love

965
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: young man from the time I had met him. Can

966
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: you walk us a little bit through Writer's love life?

967
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 7: Oh? He would just yeah, I mean you just described

968
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 7: it perfectly. Yeah, Yeah, he just falls totally and it's

969
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 7: that one and only person. Yeah, for they were all

970
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 7: long term relationships.

971
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: No, did you ever want to encourage him to, like,

972
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: you know, because my mom I would always I would

973
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: usually fall for the very first person that would appear

974
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: in front of me after a breakup, and my mom

975
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: would go, Danielle, you can't just keep stumbling into quote

976
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: unquote long term relationships if you're never available, how are

977
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: you going to meet the right person? Like if you're

978
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: just always taken? Did you ever want to encourage Writer

979
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: to not be so obsessation been finding the one at

980
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 4: twelve and to maybe just kind of be a little

981
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 4: freer and date a round. I'm asking for young Danielle

982
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: who really just never had her chance.

983
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, young did.

984
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: That's the problem is Danielle is retroactively trying to get rid.

985
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: Would you ever encourage you to just be a little

986
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: single for a while.

987
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 7: No, I don't. I don't remember encouraging to the woman

988
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 7: that he was with. Where great, good choices, good choices.

989
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 6: Everyone he ever dated was always like, that's fine.

990
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys had a very you guys had a

991
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: very cool, hands off approach to a lot of a

992
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: lot of your parents.

993
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: Where do you think that comes from. Were you guys.

994
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 4: Raised with a lot of freedom as kids, or were

995
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: your parents a little more strict?

996
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 6: Oh? My parents were totally free. I mean, do whatever

997
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 6: you want to do as all as you want to.

998
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 6: I never had any restrictions at all in any part

999
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 6: in my life. Sometimes I was a little kid and

1000
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 6: you had little I had restrictions. You had restrictions, And

1001
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 6: I ended up.

1002
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 7: Moving three thousand miles away to feel free.

1003
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 6: San franc in nineteen seventy.

1004
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 7: San Francisco was home because there was freedom. There was

1005
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 7: Yeah at that point, I was what twenty two anyway,

1006
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 7: But they still had control over me. I felt. You

1007
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 7: know that that's.

1008
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 8: Totally different to two of us. Like I said, I

1009
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 8: had total free different times. I was ten, eleven, twelve

1010
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 8: years old, but twenty two.

1011
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: And you had to move to get it.

1012
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, really I did.

1013
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a time in a place, though. Can you

1014
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: tell me just a little bit what San Francisco in

1015
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: the late sixties early seventies was, like, I mean, that

1016
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: was like a cultural phenomenon in the United States. What

1017
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: was it like at twenty two, moving across the country

1018
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: and seeing San Francisco at it's arguably its height of coolness?

1019
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: What was that like?

1020
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 7: Oh?

1021
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 2: Boy?

1022
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 6: Wow?

1023
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 7: Well, like I said, I felt at home and felt

1024
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 7: totally free. You could do whatever you wanted. We had

1025
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 7: gotten into marijuana and so we were enjoying that. And

1026
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 7: then there were protests at Golden Gate Park that you

1027
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 7: could just join in and it's very it was just exciting.

1028
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 7: It was very exciting and free.

1029
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: And when did you guys reconnect?

1030
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 4: So you guys met at Penn State and then and

1031
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: then moved separately to San Francisco. At what point did

1032
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: you guys reconnect and what were you doing separately at

1033
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: the time that you guys reconnected.

1034
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 7: Well, the first when I first came out to San Francisco,

1035
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 7: I only came out for the summer, and uh, but

1036
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 7: during that summer I decided I need to move out.

1037
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 7: So but the first night I was in San Francisco,

1038
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 7: I went out with King, not as a date, his

1039
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 7: old roommate who I had dated at the State. You know,

1040
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 7: I went out and I saw him, and so I

1041
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 7: saw King the first night, actually.

1042
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 6: Visited after about a year, I guess.

1043
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 7: That winter, I guess, I don't know.

1044
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 8: Somewhere in there, Bill, who she was dating, said to me,

1045
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 8: I was back back at the time a lot, and

1046
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 8: she said he said to me, you know, uh, bac

1047
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 8: take why don't you date her?

1048
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, I mean Phil and I were never serious, ever,

1049
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 7: ever serious.

1050
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 6: So that's how we got to go.

1051
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 4: Wow, I love that Lyn's boyfriend set you to. That

1052
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: is my favorite met.

1053
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1054
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it turned out great.

1055
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, a great friend of mine and good friend of hers,

1056
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 8: and we got together and then.

1057
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 7: Actually riding you called a local Bill.

1058
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I never saw him after the age

1059
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 3: of like four or five.

1060
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went out for cigarettes.

1061
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 6: He moved back back to Pennsylvania. Were Yeah, you.

1062
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 3: Guys really you you were dating on and off, but

1063
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: you really it was the trip to Alaska that really.

1064
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's definitely what happened on that trip.

1065
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 7: Uh. Well, we went up on a Honda three fifty

1066
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 7: one bike with the two of us on it and

1067
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 7: our one.

1068
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 6: Pack back back that had.

1069
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 7: Little stove for cooking meals and one other change of clothes,

1070
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 7: and we just took off. Yeah, it was we.

1071
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 6: Got how far we get? Eighty miles?

1072
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got up to Cinama County, where we now.

1073
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 8: The brand new bike, and we had to pull over

1074
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 8: to a place which was just an abandoned farmhouse and

1075
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 8: we slept there from right now it's a.

1076
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 7: It's a ko Kwa campground.

1077
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 8: Somebody bought the property is a big campground now, but

1078
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 8: we're the first camps there. And the next morning we

1079
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 8: pushed it over to uh which was in at Alum

1080
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 8: at the time, and they fixed that day. We continued

1081
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 8: on our trip and go all the way to Act.

1082
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 7: When I look back on that, I'm surprised we just

1083
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 7: kept going. Yeah that we never we never discussed let's

1084
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 7: go back home, let's go back to San Francis.

1085
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 4: He was only eighty miles away.

1086
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: I know, you guys were just tell me about like

1087
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: where was it the end, in the middle of the

1088
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: trip whatever, when you were when you were doing the

1089
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: backpacking where Dad wanted to build a raft and like

1090
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: go across the thing and that's when you finally had

1091
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: your breakdown.

1092
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 7: Mom, that was that was the West Coast Trail on

1093
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 7: Vancouver Island.

1094
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the first trip.

1095
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 8: No, that was after elastic it was, but.

1096
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 7: That was a trip that I mean, we had been

1097
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 7: together several years, living together. I think we were up

1098
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 7: here at redwood Shire or place we call it. And uh,

1099
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 7: but we took that trip and the king was very

1100
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 7: he was very excited about building the rift and we

1101
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 7: had to have a tie watch the tides and anyway,

1102
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 7: it was a awful trail. It was not well maintained.

1103
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 6: I was trees across the road.

1104
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: How many days angry? You were like three or four days?

1105
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, just a couple of days. Yeah, and and uh yeah,

1106
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 7: and I just said, this isn't fun. My bedroll was wet,

1107
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 7: everything was wet.

1108
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 8: We met two campers on the coming the other director

1109
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 8: who had lost all their equipment crossing that river.

1110
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 7: And they said and they had nothing, they had no

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 7: We gave him some of our food.

1112
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 6: Great challenge, and she was worn up, and so you know,

1113
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 6: this isn't fun.

1114
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 7: It was the only trailing, you know. But but I

1115
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 7: told him, I said, look, you you go on, I'll

1116
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 7: hike back because we've already just came from there. I

1117
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 7: can go back and then all yourself.

1118
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: I guess, well, it's like bear country, like Jesus, I'll.

1119
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 7: Stay in the hotel and then when you get when

1120
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 7: you get.

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00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: Back, yeah, honestly, but not a bad decision.

1122
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 4: Listen, King, if you want to take the chance with

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00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: your bed and all of our belongings, I'll go to

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00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 4: a motel and I'll see you on the other side.

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Speaker 6: Sir.

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00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: I think that was a healthy moment for my parents.

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00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 7: But but but King said, no, we're doing this together

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00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 7: and I'll go back with you.

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00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 8: Good.

1130
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: So he went to the motel and he didn't force

1131
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: you to go down the river. Just air air dry

1132
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 4: your bed, air dry your bed.

1133
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 7: But at that point I knew he was a keeper.

1134
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I knew.

1135
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 6: You should have known that.

1136
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 8: That was three months getting back to that, the original one.

1137
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 8: It took about a month to get up there, so

1138
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 8: it slowly were because it rained the whole time on

1139
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 8: the on the motorcycle.

1140
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: H on the you're riding a motorcycle. It's raining the

1141
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: whole time.

1142
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 6: Stuck a couple of places because all the springs in

1143
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 6: the rear wheel broke.

1144
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: This is not a good ad for Honda. I gotta

1145
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: be honest. Thank god we're sponsored by Honda.

1146
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 7: Honda the Yukon, all through the Yukon, the al Falcan

1147
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 7: Highway was all gravel and it went It was.

1148
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 6: Very, uh wind.

1149
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 7: Winding, incredibly windy.

1150
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 8: Because of World War Two, they made it really windy

1151
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 8: so that anybody straighten they wouldn't be able to wipe

1152
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 8: out the whole convoy.

1153
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 6: So they made it like this all the way up

1154
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 6: to the last so it.

1155
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: Was crazy and all all the only other people on

1156
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 7: the on the highway there was these big trucks delivering

1157
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 7: up to Alaska, and every time they went by this

1158
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 7: gravel would come up and we'd have to cover up.

1159
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, because you get gravel spit at you.

1160
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, it was.

1161
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: This sounds like my absolute nightmare.

1162
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Danielle and I I'm just staying

1163
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: quiet because it's like this is the riders, like, yeah,

1164
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

1165
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: I love this.

1166
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to like when I have a camera Van

1167
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: is when I have a camera Van, I'm like, what

1168
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: are we doing? This is like the height of luxury.

1169
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: We should be on on bicycles or a motorcycle to

1170
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: carry all our own gear.

1171
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: Going back to King saying, well, we just met two

1172
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: hikers coming the other way who love so I thought

1173
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: this was a good challenge, like June.

1174
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 6: Asking how we recently?

1175
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 8: It's all paid, it's beautiful, They straightened it out, took

1176
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 8: its huge campus, biggest one you can get.

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00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 7: Well, that's what I said, I said, if we go

1178
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 7: up again. Forty years later, I said, I want a mattress.

1179
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 7: That's a couple exactly.

1180
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: Thank you. You deserve it.

1181
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: Right, isn't there isn't there a four seasons in Alaska?

1182
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: There's got to be a four seasons in Alaska?

1183
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: There's There was an article that was written. Do you

1184
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: guys still have that article where some like reporter ran

1185
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: into you guys on your last year?

1186
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 6: I was in Washington and a.

1187
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: Photo of my parents and it got published in the newspaper.

1188
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: Do you guys still have that? We should find that

1189
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: because I would love to post that it's like basically

1190
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: a profile of like, look at these crazy hippies in

1191
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: their tiny motorcycle driving all the way up to we

1192
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: were doing.

1193
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 7: We were doing our laundry, the you know, the pair

1194
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 7: of jeans that we were switching, the only change we had.

1195
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 7: So we were doing our laundry and he just came

1196
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 7: up and approached us, and he took our picture and

1197
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 7: got our names such, and then he said, uh, if

1198
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 7: you make it. He was like, you know, this is Washington,

1199
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 7: You're still a long way to go. So if you

1200
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 7: make it, send me a postcard and tell me that.

1201
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 7: So I did and that that's when he posted it.

1202
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 7: He said, they believe.

1203
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: I want to see.

1204
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 5: That.

1205
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: Please, the movies, the movies that you made of writer

1206
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: as a little kid, robbery.

1207
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: I think we actually need that. We need to plan

1208
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: a screening up.

1209
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to see all that.

1210
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 4: Okay, we speaking of productions at redwood Shire. I have

1211
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 4: to talk to you about something very near and dear

1212
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 4: to this podcast and my heart grinders inline. I recently

1213
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: watched it and it was such a fun time.

1214
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: Capsule brought back.

1215
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 4: So many memories of shooting up there. It was very entertaining.

1216
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 4: You guys, produced it. We shot it at your property.

1217
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: What do you remember about that, that whole production and

1218
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 4: having all those people there and and just that whole

1219
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 4: just producing that movie.

1220
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 8: Well, I had to build the ramp, the halfpipe. Yeah,

1221
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 8: the half pipe. Actually bought it from somebody else at

1222
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 8: the dis reassembled there and.

1223
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 6: Then I remember the batch stuff.

1224
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: It was a nine foot half pipe. It was huge,

1225
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 3: and it was a big hand pipe.

1226
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean I.

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01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 3: Wouldn't go on it. I was terrib but it was

1228
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: like it was. But they put it right in the

1229
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 3: meadow where we used to camp out in the Redwoods,

1230
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: and it's it's just one of the most gorgeous spots

1231
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: and so it was so perfect for filming because you

1232
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: could just get these incredible shots in the middle of

1233
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: the Redwoods. And yeah, I mean we attracted a lot

1234
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: of talent because there was it was a big skating

1235
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: community that somehow we got tapped into and came out

1236
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 3: and just.

1237
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, guy what's his name? That started? Actually that was

1238
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 8: because Angel went up there and filmed him up in

1239
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 8: the Tahoe I can't remember his name, be still the

1240
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 8: biggest name in skateboarding, Tony.

1241
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 6: Hawk. Yeah, yeah, so it.

1242
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 7: Was it's the same thing. You know. We we did

1243
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 7: produce a feature here Buck Naked Arson few years later.

1244
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: So much and what'd you say, I said, so much fun? Yeah,

1245
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: Christine Lincoln, Rusty no questions As showed up and filmed

1246
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: with us for like, we shot a whole feature in

1247
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: like what twelve days or fourteen days or something. It

1248
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: was like one of the first digital features. We were

1249
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: using the same cameras that Lucas had developed for the

1250
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: new Star Wars films, and there were only like six

1251
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: of them in the world, but we got we got

1252
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 3: them two of the cameras and shot a movie in

1253
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 3: like no time. And that was Amy Snow who was

1254
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 3: a pa, a phone pa on a stage pa at

1255
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 3: boys script and then she handed me the script and

1256
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: I was like, this is great. We could probably shoot

1257
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: this in my parents' property, and we did.

1258
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 6: It was so much time.

1259
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: But honestly, like truly, you two and writer and Shiloh

1260
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: were so ahead of your time. Now, it's very common

1261
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: practice for every child actor who has a family or

1262
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 4: a team, they start a production company and they start

1263
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: doing their own stuff. But that was not common practice

1264
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 4: in the late eighties early nineties.

1265
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: No, So what was that good.

1266
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 6: What it Wasn't it as easy? Yeah? No, I could

1267
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 6: see everybody would.

1268
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 4: Do it yet exactly. And so that's my question is

1269
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 4: that you guys being so ahead of your time. What

1270
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: was that like for you going into it and being like,

1271
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: we're just gonna We're gonna learn as we go.

1272
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 6: It's a stupidity. Again, No, it was.

1273
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 8: It was exciting to do, it was fun to do.

1274
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 8: At the same time, it was not profitable, right, you

1275
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 8: have to know what you're doing. You have to be

1276
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 8: a marketing person or have a marketing person, and we didn't.

1277
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: From my perspective, what was so? I mean, what's so

1278
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: amazing about you guys? As you always just approach any

1279
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: project and you just do it right, You just figure

1280
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 3: it out. And you know, like when you didn't know

1281
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: how to build a house, Dad, You've always said, you

1282
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: just read a book, right, read a book, figured it

1283
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: out and built a house. And I think you, you

1284
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: guys so admirably approached all of filmmaking the exact same way,

1285
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: which is exactly right. The problem is the industry of

1286
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: Hollywood is a whole another Like making a film is

1287
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 3: one thing, right, like putting a production together, getting the

1288
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 3: creatives getting the equipment and like all of that, you

1289
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: guys thrived at and we you know, we're so good

1290
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: at beause is that that can do attitude that you

1291
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: bring to everything you do was perfect for independent cinema

1292
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 3: and perfect for making projects. The problem is once the

1293
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: project is finished, you need you need money in capital,

1294
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: and you need marketing, and you need distribution, and you

1295
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 3: need all these attacks and you need every content and

1296
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: you know, being up in the Redwoods, really really far

1297
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 3: from Hollywood is not super helpful in that regard. And

1298
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: I don't think either one of you wanted to be

1299
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: like festivals.

1300
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 7: No, no, we can produce things, but we don't. We can't.

1301
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 6: Robert Record does right of a connection. No.

1302
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 7: I think the value, at least with with Butt Naked

1303
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 7: Arson and Grinders in Line earlier was I just wanted

1304
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 7: to teach the boys that they can do it. If

1305
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 7: they you know they can do it, you know it

1306
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 7: can happen.

1307
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: It's so smart.

1308
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 7: They're both still in the business.

1309
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what were your thoughts when writer decided he

1310
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 4: wanted to stop acting?

1311
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 6: Hmmm, all right, I am okay, no problem.

1312
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 8: I like being home more than going this place. It

1313
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 8: was fun for a while. You know, if you go

1314
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 8: one or two, it's.

1315
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 6: Like, Okay, I got to read all that books about it.

1316
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 6: I reading four or five books at a time at

1317
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 6: that time. I remember I could probably leave a book

1318
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 6: somewhere and get another one to read it. So whenever

1319
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 6: you going to quit Boymate's World, like sure, but.

1320
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: I think I needed to hear so badly. Yeah, I

1321
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: was under so much pressure at the age of sixteen.

1322
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 3: I felt like the whole world was forcing me to

1323
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: be on a TV show that I was not happy with,

1324
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: you know, and I was just unhappy, and so I

1325
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: really needed your support that it didn't matter to you

1326
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: that you would love me no matter what. That you know,

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Speaker 3: I could. I could fail at boy Meets World and

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Speaker 3: still be a success in your eyes, you know. Like

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Speaker 3: that's that's what I know to hear from both of

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Speaker 3: you guys.

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Speaker 6: And you were there were.

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Speaker 7: Ye just knowing that then you were.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but it was fun to see all the other

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Speaker 8: stuff you got up with afterwards that we weren't.

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Speaker 7: Involved, you know, just well, I remember after you turned sixteen,

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Speaker 7: I didn't have to be on the set right with you,

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Speaker 7: and so I writer got at Loft and Downtown Los.

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Speaker 6: Angeles, and I left on his own.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I other people were critical of that. How

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Speaker 7: can you leave a sixteen year old on their own?

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Speaker 7: And I was like, writers so ready to be that,

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Speaker 7: and he's so he's responsible. I'm not worried about that.

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Speaker 7: Plus he was working, you know, he had and you

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Speaker 7: that whole cast and crew when the swirled, we're looking

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Speaker 7: after him too.

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Speaker 2: Feel that.

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Speaker 4: Did you feel that confident right from the beginning with

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Speaker 4: it or was it something that at first you were

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Speaker 4: a little more hesitant about and then you grew into

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Speaker 4: the comfort of it.

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Speaker 7: I probably grew into the comfort just getting to know

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Speaker 7: everybody and the friendships and things, you know, being together

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01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 7: for a couple of years at that point, was you

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01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 7: felt together? And I just know he was being watched

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Speaker 7: over or taken care of, and he could take care

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Speaker 7: of himself even at sixteen. He was ready that old soul.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, Lynn.

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Speaker 1: We actually we talked about that once because when I

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Speaker 1: because you had told me, you know, my parents weren't

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Speaker 1: out on the set all the time, and I was

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Speaker 1: by myself sixteen seventeen, and at first you had said

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Speaker 1: to me, you were like, I'm kind of amazed you're

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Speaker 1: here by yourself. And then when Ryder had the loft hisself,

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Speaker 1: you and I had to talk where you're like, I

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: kind of get it now you're if you're a responsible

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Speaker 1: person and you were ready for that, then it's what

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Speaker 1: you do. So yeah, we had a cool conversation about

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: that where you were like, Okay, I get I get

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01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: what you were doing, I get what your parents were doing.

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Speaker 3: And it worked.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he was he was pretty responsible this one.

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Speaker 3: I mean at first you were coming down. You were

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 3: going to come down like every other week. Do you remember, mom?

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01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 3: You were like, I'll come down every other week and

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01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 3: you only did it like twice, and then you were

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01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: like okay, yeah, because then you were just sleeping in

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01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,560
Speaker 3: my loft, like we had like a separate bed on

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01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 3: the top for you, and it was like, this is uncomfortable.

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01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 3: This is a sixteen year old lost. I'll just get

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: out of here.

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Speaker 4: How does it make you feel now watching writer with

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 4: a family of his own, and what are your thoughts

1383
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 4: if Indy wanted to become an actor, what do you

1384
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 4: guys think about that?

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01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 7: Sure, so that's what he wants to do.

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 8: He's an actor already, yep, yeah, great, he's.

1387
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 7: Taking acting clists right now, right right?

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01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, he's just so good.

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01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 7: And he's been on a camera ever since he's been born,

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01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 7: so yeah, exactly.

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01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 3: We all have him.

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: Is there a possibility of the Great Toy Caper too?

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: Is that possible to play there?

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01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 3: Writer, Yes, let's do it. Will you guys put bags

1396
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 3: on your head again?

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: Can we can we be a part of this one?

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 3: I want to be in this film.

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to thank you both for coming on here,

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 4: and I also want to thank you for raising such

1401
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 4: a special incredible I just truly like a one of

1402
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 4: a kind man who has meant so much to both

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01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 4: Will and I over the years. And I want to

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 4: end with asking you of all of the amazing qualities

1405
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 4: Writer has, and there are many, what do you think

1406
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 4: your favorite quality about Writer is? If you could, if

1407
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 4: you could select one quality that Writer has and say

1408
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 4: this is something I would want for everyone to have

1409
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 4: her to experience. What would you say is your favorite

1410
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 4: thing about him?

1411
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 6: I agree, there's so many.

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 7: His wisdom, yeah, wisdom and intelligence yeah that he applies to.

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01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 8: Ah, yeah, I'm understanding, which he had when he was

1414
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 8: two years old.

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01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 7: He sensed it.

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: So man, I want to see two year old, writer,

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01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 4: I really need me, You really need to do a screening.

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01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: Of these crying over the girl he just woke up with. Yeah,

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01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: two years, two years old. He's already been a relationship

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01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: for five years. He's angsty, he can't get over her. Yeah.

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01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 7: Man, he enjoys that as a process.

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 6: I guess.

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 2: It motivates him, it keeps him going.

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01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 6: Great.

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01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for this question.

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01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: So cool.

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01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: It's so good to see you. And we're inviting ourselves

1429
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: up to Redwoodshire too.

1430
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 3: I think we should actually do whole world journey and

1431
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: should I think absolutely, all.

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01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: Right, we'll schedule that. Thank you both so much for me.

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01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 3: Take care bye.

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: Well, writer. They killed it, crushed.

1435
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: They crushed.

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01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're great. Oh my god, I may miss them

1437
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: so much. I just want to be with them right now.

1438
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: I know, crossing the river like meeting two people who've

1439
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: just lost everything in the river, and your dad's first

1440
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: instinct is sounds like a challenge.

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01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: Sounds like a good challenge. I'm in, let's go, Lynn.

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean the stories that they tell, like, I mean, yeah,

1443
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,959
Speaker 3: it's just it's funny because I didn't really have perspective

1444
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: on it until relatively recently, you know. I feel like

1445
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 3: when I was little, it was always just like, well,

1446
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 3: this is what you do. You you go into the

1447
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 3: wilderness for six days and you figure it out and

1448
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: you have a machete and you like build yourself a shelter,

1449
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: and it's just like and what like, I know that's

1450
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 3: not you know, And I used to put so much

1451
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: pressure on myself too, Like I remember, you know, like

1452
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 3: going back to how my dad never wants to pay

1453
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: for anything. Like part of that is you don't pay

1454
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: anybody to fix anything in your house. You fix it yourself,

1455
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: like that is what you do. And I remember when

1456
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 3: Alex and I first started dating, like something went wrong

1457
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 3: with our old O'Keefe Merritt's stove, like one of those

1458
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 3: old like la stoves at every like, and we had

1459
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 3: one in Laurel Canyon and it was just a disaster.

1460
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: It's like and I'm sitting there trying to fix this

1461
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: stupid gas stove. I know nothing about fixing stoves, but

1462
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: I also won't bring myself to like pay somebody to

1463
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 3: do it. And Alex is just like sat me down.

1464
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 3: She's like it's okay, Like I don't think you're less

1465
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 3: of a man. If you can't do this because you

1466
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: can't fix a stove, it's okay. Rider just you know what,

1467
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 3: you have other qualities. You can pay somebody use those

1468
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 3: other qualities to make money, and then you pay somebody

1469
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: else who's very good at fixing a stove to fix

1470
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: it for you, and that that's okay.

1471
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,879
Speaker 2: And the time you save is also worth something.

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 3: Yes, And it was like such a like okay, okay,

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 3: you know, and just ever since then, I have to

1474
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,959
Speaker 3: you know, I still have to remind myself. But it's like, yeah,

1475
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: but my parents are you know, they're both just amazing people.

1476
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: I love them so much. They they and I Yeah.

1477
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: How long they've been married now?

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01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 3: Oh god, since seventy four. No, they bought the property

1479
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 3: in seventy four, but they actually didn't get married. I

1480
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: don't think until seventy seven. Okay, yeah, forty six years, yeah,

1481
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: forty six years. But it's so funny because in their

1482
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: you know, for their generation, they were late getting married

1483
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 3: and having kids. You know, they dated for six years

1484
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: before they got they actually got married. But you know,

1485
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: my mom was thirty thirty two whatever when I was born,

1486
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 3: and that was so late. Now it's pretty pretty.

1487
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, now now you're actually on the early side.

1488
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1489
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, your parents are amazing.

1490
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 4: I have a really wonderful photo of my parents and

1491
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 4: your parents on the cruise and they have they have

1492
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 4: swapped and my dad is sitting on your mom's lap,

1493
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 4: and I think my mom is sitting on your dad's

1494
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 4: lap and it's a very cute.

1495
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: You know what, Let's talk about cruises. Let's we'll do

1496
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: the cruise episode, bring them back.

1497
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 3: We do have to have the Sale with the Stars

1498
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: cruise episode because we have not talked about that, but.

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01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: That we have, that's a that's we will do that

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 4: for sure. Oh yeah, Well, thank you all for listening

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