Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are officially in football shape.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal and beyond lucky today to be joined
Speaker 1: by my friend Nick Shook Jokie. We have fifteen preseason games,
Speaker 1: thirty teams to talk about, and we're almost done with
Speaker 1: the preseason.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for this one.
Speaker 3: I actually had to remind myself that Week two is
Speaker 3: the important week in preseason this week because it used
Speaker 3: to be Week three back in the day when we
Speaker 3: had four preseason games. And I'm sitting there watching some
Speaker 3: of these games last night, going, oh man, the whole
Speaker 3: bill starting defenses out there for a considerable amount of time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Week two does matter, So we do have
Speaker 3: some good things to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Lets be real, though, it used to be every team
Speaker 1: having the same playbook, and now it's different. Some teams
Speaker 1: take Week one seriously. A couple teams are gonna throw
Speaker 1: some starters out there in Week three. I think the
Speaker 1: Titans are on that bandwagon. The Jets might be. We'll see,
Speaker 1: but it's a grab back and half of these games,
Speaker 1: not a lot happened, and so what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: is go through all the preseason stuff that did matter
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit all fifteen games, but for the games,
Speaker 1: whereas backups playing will also hit news from those teams,
Speaker 1: and so you can feel up to date with thirty
Speaker 1: teams in the league. Sorry, you know, Eagles and Patriots,
Speaker 1: you got your treatment on Friday Show. Although we have
Speaker 1: heard that Drake Bay is practicing better since that performance,
Speaker 1: that he's eased up, he's got confidence. So there's some
Speaker 1: Patriots for you. You look surprised, shook.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd just like to hear a rookie quarterback
Speaker 3: gaining confidence, especially a rookie quarterback that has drawn the
Speaker 3: consternation of the media assemble that covers them so good.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it is a trend that these rookies who
Speaker 1: the first couple weeks of training camp seem like they're struggling.
Speaker 1: Eighty Mitchell is another one we'll get to with the
Speaker 1: Colts that towards the end of training camp in the
Speaker 1: middle of the preseason, they kind of get their legs
Speaker 1: underneath them. They get the confidence that they belong at
Speaker 1: this level. We belong at this level.
Speaker 2: Show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I said football shape, I just
Speaker 1: mean it like I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: This is the seventh week of NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: We love everyone that has been with us every day
Speaker 1: on this journey. And yeah, with this week of the
Speaker 1: preseason now wrapped up, I just feel like it's time.
Speaker 1: The season could start tomorrow and it would not be
Speaker 1: soon enough. But let's get to some of the fun stuff.
Speaker 1: And because it's the last item of news that happened,
Speaker 1: I want to start with Raiders and Cowboys from Saturday night.
Speaker 1: Because the news that came out on Sunday that Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew will be the Week one starter of the Raiders,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Nick, this is the worst game in
Speaker 1: NFL history by a quarterback. I think that ever clinched
Speaker 1: a starting job, Gardner Minshew like he played so bad
Speaker 1: in this game and that was enough to win the
Speaker 1: starting job. I hate to start so negative, but it
Speaker 1: really stands out to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the assignment of covering this game, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, thanks to thank you to the schedule makers,
Speaker 3: the preseason schedule makers who decided that ten pm kick
Speaker 3: ten pm Eastern would be ideal really stuck it to
Speaker 3: me on that one. But are sitting back watching this
Speaker 3: game and I'm just thinking, my god, If anything, I'm
Speaker 3: losing confidence in Gardner Minshew's viability as a starter in
Speaker 3: this offense. I mean, I know that the Luke Getsy offense,
Speaker 3: you know, frustrate a lot of people in Chicago. I
Speaker 3: know it's preseason, it's going to be fairly vanilla and
Speaker 3: everything else.
Speaker 4: But there was no flow. He did not seem comfortable.
Speaker 3: It was either a shot play, a big run by
Speaker 3: Zamir White, or nothing in between. Missing guys not looking comfortable.
Speaker 3: And I was sitting there just thinking, there's no way
Speaker 3: he's clinched this job. In fact, play them into week
Speaker 3: three because I need to see more.
Speaker 4: And then Aidan O'Connell went out.
Speaker 3: There and threw a pick six in the second half,
Speaker 3: and that just kind of blew everything up.
Speaker 1: Yes, when I went back and watched the game and
Speaker 1: or at least their dropbacks, you know that pick six,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, that's the moment where this
Speaker 1: quarterback competition ended because oh Connell, I was at the practice.
Speaker 1: I've talked to people who have been there, not look
Speaker 1: comfortable in this offense at all. Has been very hesitating,
Speaker 1: and so at least Minshew you kind of know what
Speaker 1: you're getting. But yeah, it was tough for Antonio Pierce
Speaker 1: coming out of this game to have to announce that
Speaker 1: Minshew was the guy because he was sick.
Speaker 2: He didn't want it to go another week.
Speaker 1: He wants to be sure, he wants to prep that
Speaker 1: guy for Week one against the Chargers. But yet, like
Speaker 1: I said, the worst game that's ever Clinch's starting job
Speaker 1: in the history of QB battles, Minshew under fifty percent completion.
Speaker 1: Minshew five drives for three points in this game under
Speaker 1: five yards per attempt, and the tape was just as
Speaker 1: bad as the number is.
Speaker 2: Just not pulling the trigger.
Speaker 1: There was a couple of times I saw open receivers
Speaker 1: on the All twenty two and he just plays.
Speaker 2: It's just vibes, baby.
Speaker 1: With Minshew, it's just kind of running around and making
Speaker 1: some plays and a couple of times he'll make some.
Speaker 1: But it did make me think, like, yeah, it looked
Speaker 1: okay in the Shane Steichen offense for a while last year,
Speaker 1: but it might look a little different in a Raiders offense.
Speaker 1: But he's at least played a lit in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's been a Week one starter before, and I think
Speaker 1: this was just more about a O'Connell losing this job.
Speaker 2: And you could hear it Antonia Pierce.
Speaker 1: They might have announced that Minshew had the job on Sunday,
Speaker 1: but Pierce sounded different on Saturday after the game.
Speaker 5: Push it well for both gentlemen, right, and it just
Speaker 5: didn't and we'll look at it, will evaluate. They both
Speaker 5: had opportunities. Aiden had twenty attempts and Minshew had twenty one.
Speaker 5: So Bob's balancing as we can get it, and we'll
Speaker 5: look at it. Obviously, you saw what our plan was
Speaker 5: and I throw the ball around at these guys, showcase
Speaker 5: what they can do, and boo, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4: Not good, it's not good.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Greg like, when you put that pressure
Speaker 3: on two guys in week two of a preseason game
Speaker 3: and nobody's really separated themselves, you're kind of setting yourself
Speaker 3: for failure when you're dealing with Gardner, Minshew and Aid
Speaker 3: and O'Connell.
Speaker 4: And that's essentially what we got.
Speaker 3: And then you add in the mix that you know,
Speaker 3: maybe this offense isn't really hitting a rhythm yet with
Speaker 3: Luke Getzi, who's a new OC.
Speaker 4: In Vegas, and this is the product that you get.
Speaker 3: I feel bad for Ap because you know, now he's
Speaker 3: the permanent head coach. He's not just the interim head coach.
Speaker 3: And you can hear the frustration and really just well,
Speaker 3: this is what we got by default. Gardner Minshew's our starter.
Speaker 3: We'll go check it out. But they both had an
Speaker 3: opportunity and neither really seized it. We'll go with the
Speaker 3: more experienced guy, right.
Speaker 1: I will always believe that they wanted Michael Pennix. It
Speaker 1: didn't happen. O'Connell's just been frantic and he said, why
Speaker 1: are you spending so much time on the Raiders to start?
Speaker 1: So the Raiders aren't relevant? Hey, the Raiders are one
Speaker 1: of the most popular teams in the NFL, and all
Speaker 1: these teams are relevant before week one, and that's why
Speaker 1: I love them. Like everyone's a beautiful baby that you
Speaker 1: just don't know how the season's gonna go. A couple
Speaker 1: other notes from this game in these two teams. Tyree Wilson,
Speaker 1: the top ten pick of the Raiders from a year ago,
Speaker 1: who just reportedly has not shown much at training camp.
Speaker 2: Just looks like a guy.
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about some players that could change
Speaker 1: teams or free agents on our next show with Jordan Rodrig.
Speaker 1: Tyrie Wilson is one I could see just getting dealt
Speaker 1: for like a seventh round pick or something just because
Speaker 1: it's not working. And then for the Cowboys, they played
Speaker 1: all their backups. I wanted to point that out that
Speaker 1: these were the Raiders' starters versus the Cowboy backups, and
Speaker 1: it still was going this poorly. But the big news
Speaker 1: this week to me with the Cowboys was they've elevated
Speaker 1: two rookies to the starting lineup on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: One by necessity because of injury. That's Tyler Geyton, but again,
Speaker 1: he looked good in this game. They've he's a talented kid.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be out there Week one against the Browns
Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett, so that's fascinating. And then Cooper Bebee,
Speaker 1: a rookie guard center, is playing center for them now.
Speaker 1: So it does look like they've pushed these two rookies
Speaker 1: into the starting lineup and that's exciting.
Speaker 2: It's just we'll see if they hit it.
Speaker 1: But they also have a rookie edge you know, named
Speaker 1: Marshaon Neelan who who's made some good plays too in
Speaker 1: run defense.
Speaker 2: So the youth movement in Dallas.
Speaker 3: I would also like to give a tip of the
Speaker 3: cap to Trey Lancer, putting on a better show in
Speaker 3: week two than he did in week one. Picked up
Speaker 3: some yards with his feet, put together a couple of
Speaker 3: nice drives, looked a little more confident, still a little
Speaker 3: you know, hey wire from here to there, you know,
Speaker 3: and every once in a while, hit the throw, you
Speaker 3: don't know where it's going. It's not like he's going
Speaker 3: to compete for a starting job, but it's fine. He
Speaker 3: looked better than he did before, so that's good.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that's great, because it felt pretty dark at the
Speaker 1: end of last week in Dallas. He started wondering, like,
Speaker 1: it's even gonna be on this team for sure. And
Speaker 1: I know they'd like to develop at least him through
Speaker 1: another season. And I have to mention, I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter it's the preseason, but it mattered to Brandon
Speaker 1: Aubrey that he hit a sixty six.
Speaker 2: Yarder in this game.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to the call, because I thought this was
Speaker 1: kind of wasted on the preseason. But gotta say the
Speaker 1: Cowboys enjoyed the hell out of this one.
Speaker 6: This is officially a sixty six yard field goal.
Speaker 4: He trills, it doesn't have enough.
Speaker 7: Sixty six Tbrey.
Speaker 8: That's the end of the first half.
Speaker 2: Holy cow, that is awesome.
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Speaker 1: help help Shook and myself out here. But I love
Speaker 1: how much they celebrated at sixty six yards. He might
Speaker 1: be coming for Tucker's crown, not just the record, because
Speaker 1: that would have tied it. It was a regular season
Speaker 1: maybe the title of the best kicker in the league.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 3: Look, that would have been good from sixty nine, maybe seventy,
Speaker 3: maybe seventy. And it was the most electric moment of
Speaker 3: the preseason in my opinion. I just happened to glance
Speaker 3: over as I was writing my notes off of the
Speaker 3: whole Minshew O'Connell disaster, and I'm like, he is he
Speaker 3: spotted behind the midfield logo and then he kicks it
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: And I checked the you know the stats, I'm like,
Speaker 4: let's good from sixty six. That's why I tweeted all
Speaker 4: caps A kicker just made a sixty six yard field go.
Speaker 3: I know it's in a Doman preseason, but let's celebrate
Speaker 3: this even if it doesn't matter the record book.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike McCarthy was celebrating it. He was loving it.
Speaker 1: And let's move on to our next game. We can't
Speaker 1: spend that much time on each game here. Shugar will
Speaker 1: be here for two hours. Let's go to Washington Miami.
Speaker 1: So it's it's take two for j and Daniels. I
Speaker 1: did go back and watch, you know, all of his dropbacks. Uh,
Speaker 1: what you get with him was just calm and poise.
Speaker 1: He had two long field goal drives, nothing fancy, but
Speaker 1: a lot of throws to the outside. He's just so
Speaker 1: comfortable even going to his second third read through the outside,
Speaker 1: and I know they were mostly short throws, but he
Speaker 1: just looks like that dude. And he's just one of
Speaker 1: the stories to me of the last month of just
Speaker 1: everyone who's watched Daniels at practice, everyone that was at
Speaker 1: the Dolphins Washington joint practice said how well he did too,
Speaker 1: and he just he's had a level of comfort, frankly, that.
Speaker 2: I think exceeds on the at least on.
Speaker 1: The practice field and in a way in the preseason
Speaker 1: any of the other rookie quarterbacks. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much that means, but I think it's a good thing
Speaker 1: if you're a Commanders fan.
Speaker 3: I mean, it justifies what he did LSU and winning
Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy. You know, he traveled along road just
Speaker 3: to get to the NFL. He was at two different schools.
Speaker 3: He had a ton of playing experience in college, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of showing right now not to mention the
Speaker 3: athletic gifts that he has translate to the modern game
Speaker 3: of football. This is the type of quarterback that a
Speaker 3: lot of teams seek, and I think Washington's got one.
Speaker 3: And as long as they can stay he can stay healthy,
Speaker 3: and they can protect him and kind of surround him
Speaker 3: with an offense that will insulate him properly with you know,
Speaker 3: talent and not putting too much on his shoulders, then
Speaker 3: I think they're in a great spot. It's really encouraging
Speaker 3: to see a kid like that step into a preseason
Speaker 3: environment and handle it with poise. I haven't seen a quarterback,
Speaker 3: and this is going to sound like I'm making a
Speaker 3: crazy comparison, but I haven't seen a quarterback handle live
Speaker 3: bullets like that that comfortably since Joe Burrow did.
Speaker 4: When he was a rookie with the WHO rules, So
Speaker 4: very good start for him.
Speaker 1: Well, I will point out it's a limited sample size,
Speaker 1: but he has not played as much as the others.
Speaker 2: He's played what three drives. They were all good drives.
Speaker 3: Though, so thinking of which, there's a quick note on
Speaker 3: preseason games and how many guys can get on the field.
Speaker 3: Nineteen different commanders were targeted at least once in the
Speaker 3: passing game in that game nineteen that's wild.
Speaker 1: The funniest moment you said Daniels has to stay healthy,
Speaker 1: But the best moment in that game to me was
Speaker 1: when he did not slide and get down quick enough
Speaker 1: on one of his runs and he took a hit.
Speaker 1: Wasn't a massive hit like some of the ones he
Speaker 1: took in the SEC, but he took a hit and
Speaker 1: he was on the sideline and he immediately turned to
Speaker 1: dan Quinn who was right there and started apologizing. Now,
Speaker 1: after the game, we heard from dan Quinn and Daniels
Speaker 1: that he probably turned because Daniels was barking at him,
Speaker 1: like upset about him not getting down, and they they
Speaker 1: laughed about it. But Daniels has reportedly been put on
Speaker 1: double secret probation from dan Quinn, which is an animal
Speaker 1: house reference, so he's definitely like your uncle dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: He's made a top gun and animal animal house reference
Speaker 1: in back to back weeks, which.
Speaker 3: I like, well, I mean it fits the way he looks,
Speaker 3: you know, bald guy, got that go tee going No, it.
Speaker 2: Fits, okay.
Speaker 1: One thing to keep an eye on with Washington, Johan
Speaker 1: Dotson seems like he's really battling for the second receiver job,
Speaker 1: maybe the third. That's something to watch as a potential trade.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: I listened to Ben ben Standings podcast and he said
Speaker 1: there's just something a little off with Dotson all off
Speaker 1: season and how last year ended new coaching staff. So
Speaker 1: that's just something to watch. And then for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: a couple good signs this week. U Tua looked great
Speaker 1: in his one drive. No surprise, but he looks like Tua,
Speaker 1: which is cool to see comes out five for five.
Speaker 1: H Jalen Phillips came off the pup list this week,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't one of those like hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do some individuals and slowly ramp up like he was
Speaker 1: practicing a lot. That's huge for them if he can
Speaker 1: actually contribute in week one and then Obj still not practicing,
Speaker 1: still on the pup list. I just like mentioning this
Speaker 1: because I keep seeing people insert Obj. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this three receiver set and Obj. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: is he gonna be a factor on this team? Like
Speaker 1: if you gave me over under five hundred yards, I
Speaker 1: would say under because I just don't expect him to
Speaker 1: necessarily play football that consistently just hasn't happened enough.
Speaker 3: It's gonna open the opportunity for a guy by the
Speaker 3: name of River Creycraft, who had made a nice play
Speaker 3: in this game.
Speaker 1: So you know, yes, that was a beautiful throw and catch,
Speaker 1: especially the catch by Craik Craft on the touchdown. Braxton
Speaker 1: Barrios is on this team fighting for a spot. Who
Speaker 1: do they have Washington as like a younger receiver. We
Speaker 1: hit the Dolphins a little bit last show, but the
Speaker 1: very exciting offense to look forward to for week one.
Speaker 1: Nate Tye, our friend noted just how crazy their shifts
Speaker 1: are getting and their motions already in the preseason. Some
Speaker 1: of their really short ones with the tight ends and
Speaker 1: you know Mike's cooking up some stuff in the lab
Speaker 1: that the reporters can't quite report on until it starts.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see them. Let's talk a little
Speaker 1: Jets Panthers, all right, Jets Panthers was a game we
Speaker 1: don't need to really go over backups versus backups, So
Speaker 1: I will mention just what I read about them this
Speaker 1: week in the joint practices that everyone who watched them
Speaker 1: said the Panthers offense actually kind of got it done
Speaker 1: against the Jets defense. So if you're looking for positives,
Speaker 1: they're not playing Bryce Young in the preseason, which is
Speaker 1: a little surprising them having a nice day, Tis Marshall,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Mingo having some big gains against the Jets defense,
Speaker 1: and Young by all accounts, Jets reporters, Panthers reporters kind of.
Speaker 2: Maybe winning the day.
Speaker 1: If you had to decide, Okay, that's something that's something
Speaker 1: that wasn't happening last year.
Speaker 3: Well it's good for Mingo too, because he had a
Speaker 3: really rough rookie year. He had about as rough of
Speaker 3: a rookie year as Quintin Johnston did, and if he
Speaker 3: can get back on track, that would be a big
Speaker 3: boost for them. You know, they spent some time revamping
Speaker 3: their receiving corp. They went and got Deante Johnson the offseason.
Speaker 3: But if you can get Mingo to produce alongside Bryce Young,
Speaker 3: with Dave Canalis overseeing the whole operation, then they could
Speaker 3: finally get out of this nightmare that they were in
Speaker 3: under Frank Reich last year, where they had no direction offense,
Speaker 3: will be no creativity, no chance of really moving the
Speaker 3: football very often. That would be a huge step forward
Speaker 3: in the first year of Dave Canalis being there.
Speaker 4: But we'll see.
Speaker 2: And now I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I know you've tried to go back and watch as
Speaker 1: much as this as you can. I went more like
Speaker 1: notes on some of these because Adrian Martinez and Pasley
Speaker 1: versus plumber Jack, Plumber and Luton that's peak preseason.
Speaker 2: I felt like I didn't need to see that.
Speaker 4: I had a buddy at the game. He lives in Charlotte,
Speaker 4: and he goes ah.
Speaker 3: I left the Panthers game before I got to see
Speaker 3: Tino Martinez playing like, you know, making a reference to
Speaker 3: the old baseball player, and I go, you mean the
Speaker 3: former Nebraska corn Husker.
Speaker 4: You bite your.
Speaker 2: Tongue right there.
Speaker 1: Look, these are all players who are better at playing
Speaker 1: football than I will be anything I ever do in
Speaker 1: my life. But in terms of application to our job,
Speaker 1: didn't feel as relevant. Tac McKinley had a moment in
Speaker 1: this game. He's supposedly gonna make the Jets team. He's
Speaker 1: on the Jets, by the way, Malachi Corley, which I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people were excited about, third round
Speaker 1: pick for the Jets, maybe being their slot guy. He
Speaker 1: is clearly behind Xavier Gibson on their depth chart, so
Speaker 1: that's a guy that you know on drafting you're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, slot them right in, but sounds like you
Speaker 1: might take a little while to get going. And then Olufshanu,
Speaker 1: their first round pick. They're kind of cross training him
Speaker 1: at left tackle and right tackle. But that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: It shows their offensive line is actually healthy right now.
Speaker 1: So he's been a left tackle, that's what he's going
Speaker 1: to be as a pro, but he's playing a little
Speaker 1: right tackle right now to be ready in case there's
Speaker 1: any injury. So those are good things. I think the
Speaker 1: Jets have had overall a really nice training camp and
Speaker 1: stayed healthy on offense. Let's get to the other New
Speaker 1: York team, Texans Giants. This one was interesting because both
Speaker 1: starters played CJ. Stroud versus Daniel Jones. The Giants played
Speaker 1: their starters the whole first half. What were your takeaways here, Nick?
Speaker 1: From Daniel Jones's first action off in ACL.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a little rough. I mean, two interceptions is
Speaker 3: never something that you're happy about. And this is a
Speaker 3: year in which the Giants kind of need to produce.
Speaker 3: They need to be much better than they were last
Speaker 3: year because of how far they took a step backward
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 4: It's not a good start, but it's also shaking off
Speaker 4: some rust.
Speaker 3: He hasn't played in a long time and he had
Speaker 3: a long road of recovery to get back on the
Speaker 3: football field. So I'm not going to sound the alarm
Speaker 3: bells yet. But then again, I'm not a Daniel Jones believer,
Speaker 3: so this does not surprise me very much at all.
Speaker 3: And if you look, you know what else they have
Speaker 3: behind him. We don't need to be, you know, back
Speaker 3: in a Tommy DeVito situation again here.
Speaker 1: So right he is hurt right now and should be
Speaker 1: back before the start of the season, but right now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Tommy Devio. So this is one where I am
Speaker 1: glad I went back to watch his drop back because
Speaker 1: I saw the highlights. I mean, you couldn't have scripted
Speaker 1: a bigger freaking disaster to come off ac in acl
Speaker 1: His first throw goes right into Derek string Stingley, the
Speaker 1: Houston cornerbacks bread basket. Stingley can't bring it down, but
Speaker 1: it could have been an interception, and he has a
Speaker 1: screen pass. His next throw, I believe maybe it was
Speaker 1: two throws later, is just one of the worst pick
Speaker 1: sixes you'll ever see, falling down in the end zone,
Speaker 1: just can't be thrown.
Speaker 2: He just throws it up. It's a gift wrap pick six.
Speaker 1: And then later in the first quarter he underthrows a
Speaker 1: deep ball, which was just a bad throw, so he
Speaker 1: said it afterwards, one bad decision, one bad throw, and
Speaker 1: that's intercepted too, this time by Stingley, who might be
Speaker 1: ready for an All Pro year, Like he just it
Speaker 1: looks awesome. But I did watch the rest of the
Speaker 1: first half, and granted it came against the Texans backups,
Speaker 1: but he had some dimes the rest of the game. Actually,
Speaker 1: he had a long, nice throw to Darius Slayton, and
Speaker 1: he had a beautiful out route that everyone noticed. How
Speaker 1: insane the catch, how acrobatic it was from Molik Neighbors.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna watch it here, but if you're watch
Speaker 1: it on YouTube, I want you to look at, you know,
Speaker 1: an opposite hash throw and Daniel Jones had about three
Speaker 1: of these in this game.
Speaker 2: And that was a nice, nice ball by Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: Jones down the sideline, Neighbors, I'll want to think, grab
Speaker 1: but a tiptoe to get his feet in.
Speaker 7: That's a first down and that to tip your cap
Speaker 7: play if you're a Texan, you just tip your cap
Speaker 7: to a go.
Speaker 2: I make it a great play.
Speaker 8: You just sip your cat.
Speaker 2: And you see why they talked about Miliite Neighbors.
Speaker 1: The way they do that is just a six side,
Speaker 1: like Malak Neighbors is so good.
Speaker 2: He looked so good in this game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they protected Daniel Jones in the second quarter
Speaker 1: and he was way more aggressive than he had been
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, which is kind of like
Speaker 1: the younger Danie Jones is the one I wanted to see.
Speaker 1: So considering how completely awful his start was, I actually
Speaker 1: thought it showed a little something that he came back
Speaker 1: and spun it like a quarterback should when they're protected
Speaker 1: that well against backups. But he did it, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the frustrating thing with Daniel Jones is that
Speaker 3: he has those flashes and you see the arm talent
Speaker 3: and you see the potential.
Speaker 4: It's just not consistent. But I will say, I don't
Speaker 4: know what it is about the Texans.
Speaker 3: They played an extra preseason game because they played the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game, and in the Hall of Fame game,
Speaker 3: Colin Johnson was making the same catches down the sideline,
Speaker 3: almost identical to what Milie Neighbors did there. So Texans,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about attempts along the boundary,
Speaker 3: but stop getting lost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: There are some rookies that come in and you want
Speaker 1: to say, oh, the preseasons doesn't matter. It's like it
Speaker 1: matters if every single practice report says Malik Neighbors is
Speaker 1: dominating everyone across from him and dominating the target share,
Speaker 1: and then you can just see him pop. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he pops in the same way on an NFL field
Speaker 1: like you expect. I'm not saying he's gonna have fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards, but it's not. I think he might have
Speaker 1: a chance to have a Jamar Chase like rookie year,
Speaker 1: just because of all the targets that he's gonna have
Speaker 1: and he's so talented. His worst play, he was killing himself,
Speaker 1: whereas he didn't come down with an acrobatic catch early
Speaker 1: from Jones. That was Jones's second past But on that play,
Speaker 1: like he dusted Stingley, who's so good, and even that,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's impressive. This kid's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the Giants, they haven't had a big time
Speaker 3: receiver like this Ince Odell, So like if you can
Speaker 3: actually slot that into their depth chart and count on that,
Speaker 3: that's a huge step forward from a roster development standpoint,
Speaker 3: even if everything around them is still pretty.
Speaker 1: Flaw and watchability. So let's just wait a little bit
Speaker 1: on Jones. I'm not pushing the panic button. Jalen Peachree
Speaker 1: was everywhere in this game. It was nice to see c. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud just play football. You just it was just all class,
Speaker 1: all calm.
Speaker 2: He was good. That was about it.
Speaker 1: Like he got a little bit to Stephan Diggs, a
Speaker 1: little bit to Nico Collins, like everyone got involved in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 3: So I've looked at this depth chart and watching these
Speaker 3: Texans games and I'm trying to figure out what their
Speaker 3: receiving room is going to look like. And I look
Speaker 3: at the stats and I see John Metchi had six
Speaker 3: catches for sixty eight yards in a touchdown. And I've
Speaker 3: been worried about John Metchi a little bit. I know,
Speaker 3: his career got off to a rough start. Obviously, had
Speaker 3: the cancer diagnosis and it kept him out of football
Speaker 3: the first year, but it seemed like he's never really
Speaker 3: gotten back on track, especially with his pedigree where he
Speaker 3: came from in college. And if you look at their
Speaker 3: top six right now, I mean you're looking at Tank
Speaker 3: del Stefond Diggs, Nico Collins, Robert Woods, Noah Brown, and
Speaker 3: then John Metchi six is like, that's right on the
Speaker 3: bubble there. But having a game like this could go
Speaker 3: a long way toward him, you know, getting back on
Speaker 3: track and proving that he deserves a roster spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've heard the same thing in Houston too, because some
Speaker 1: of their other younger receivers also have been, you know,
Speaker 1: making a push. You know, maybe Robert Words or Noah
Speaker 1: Brown aren't locks for this team, they could be a
Speaker 1: maybe their guys. I'm going to write this down right
Speaker 1: now because we're doing a show about potential guys that
Speaker 1: could change, and like, those are two guys that, like
Speaker 1: maybe another team throws a conditional six to four because
Speaker 1: they want to keep Mechi that that was a big
Speaker 1: game for him. You're right, he's been through a lot,
Speaker 1: also a huge injury obviously that he was coming back
Speaker 1: from when he got drafted before the leukemia. So it
Speaker 1: is nice to see he dominated. He had an entire
Speaker 1: drive all to himself. Mike McFadden, the Giants linebacker who's
Speaker 1: a good player, got carted off in this game, so
Speaker 1: that is something to watch. Let's wrap with one of
Speaker 1: the games I think will be more quick before our
Speaker 1: first break. Let's just do Ravens Falcons backups of plenty.
Speaker 1: No Michael Pennix. They said they've seen enough for Michael Pennix. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're just one of those teams that don't want to
Speaker 1: play guys. In the preseason. The Ravens, the only starters
Speaker 1: they played, and I thought this was telling, were three
Speaker 1: of their starters on the offensive line. It looks like
Speaker 1: they've settled in on Andrew Vorhes Daniel Foulllele, who will
Speaker 1: be the biggest offensive lineman or guard maybe I believe
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport. And Roger Rosengarden and
Speaker 1: they were playing and they haven't maybe stood out. And
Speaker 1: Jeff Zizzerback, I don't know how to say his last name,
Speaker 1: of the athletic I said, they haven't really played that
Speaker 1: well in camps. That's just something to watch with the Ravens.
Speaker 1: But it looks like those are your three guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm tracking for He's just because he was a
Speaker 3: guy that came out with a tunnel potential out of
Speaker 3: USC and then he shredded his knee at the combine
Speaker 3: and missed his entire rookie year. It felt like a
Speaker 3: value pick, a long term play, kind of a David
Speaker 3: Ajabo type play, and that hasn't really panned out either,
Speaker 3: but I'm hoping that it does for him, just because
Speaker 3: he had so much potential coming out of college. I
Speaker 3: would love to see him get back to where he
Speaker 3: was supposed to be and the ascend from there.
Speaker 2: Well, it looks like.
Speaker 1: He's going to be starting Week one for one of
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league, So he's got a chance.
Speaker 2: You mentioned a Java.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he did, devastating his injury history as a pro.
Speaker 1: He was a pick that the Ravens had and is
Speaker 1: coming off another season ending injury, and he played his
Speaker 1: first snaps in this game in a long time and
Speaker 1: reportedly looked okay, so he is on the men and
Speaker 1: then yeah, just it's kind of settled with me. Just
Speaker 1: how sick a safety tandem Justin Simmons and Jesse Bates
Speaker 1: could be. I know, Justin Simmons wasn't quite himself in
Speaker 1: a decent different system last year, and so we'll see
Speaker 1: if he's really lost the step. But man, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of smarts in the back end of this defense
Speaker 1: here for.
Speaker 3: The I gotta give a lot of credit to the
Speaker 3: Falcons and Terry Fonto for acknowledging their weakness or being
Speaker 3: aggressive in the market. You know, they go make the
Speaker 3: Matthew Judon trade, they go sign Justin Simmons, they had
Speaker 3: already gotten bats a year prior, and heat balled out
Speaker 3: in his first year there. I mean, look, oftentimes fans
Speaker 3: sit back and say we need to go get that guy,
Speaker 3: even if it doesn't make sense like systematically. So good
Speaker 3: on Terry for going out there and saying, look, we're
Speaker 3: gonna accrue talent, as much talent as we can to
Speaker 3: fill the needs we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there are other teams out there. The
Speaker 1: Colts stand out where their fans are like, why.
Speaker 2: Didn't we get Justin Simmons? But they didn't. You know
Speaker 2: what we gotta do.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll come back and let's
Speaker 1: hit Haleb Williams' second preseason effort.
Speaker 2: After the break, Oh yeah, we're back in NFL daily.
Speaker 2: Some of these shows are short, like Friday Show with Silva.
Speaker 1: Some of these are long, but we're like packing it
Speaker 1: with so much goodness, chalk chalkull, so much information.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: In this way, you didn't have to watch the preseason
Speaker 2: if you're out.
Speaker 4: There, at least you know, be on unless you're a
Speaker 4: sickle like us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're no.
Speaker 1: I mean there are plenty of sickos, but preseasons for
Speaker 1: like your own team. Although I have a feeling people
Speaker 1: were tuning in to check out Caleb Williams. That game
Speaker 1: was on NFL Network, I believe live and he's just
Speaker 1: must see TV.
Speaker 2: He did it again. I know.
Speaker 1: It was three straight three and outs to start the game,
Speaker 1: like one or two, you know, missthrows and some bad
Speaker 1: runs from their running game. But then he got going
Speaker 1: and just had a bunch of sick plays in the
Speaker 1: last two drive. Which one should we start with Eric
Speaker 1: behind the glass?
Speaker 7: How he just pails out of the pocket here and
Speaker 7: this is the toughest s throw.
Speaker 9: You can do, throwing your left away from.
Speaker 2: The armside right, and he doesn't.
Speaker 7: I mean that is that is in the bucket all
Speaker 7: the platform away from the arm side. That's the type
Speaker 7: of stuff at USC that was dropping jaws of scouts
Speaker 7: across the punch.
Speaker 9: And he does it effortlessly, and he's done it so
Speaker 9: many times where it's just surrounded.
Speaker 2: The place that is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Him rolling to the left, throwing up the left sideline,
Speaker 1: contorting his body so that his shoulders are square enough
Speaker 1: to get that ball.
Speaker 2: But that's just a ball that you know.
Speaker 1: I went to a game with East and sticking Stetson
Speaker 1: Bennett this weekend and they're just playing a different sport,
Speaker 1: no slight to them, but just to see that ball
Speaker 1: fly out of the hand and go that far and
Speaker 1: it was a nice catch by a duneesday, it just
Speaker 1: makes you realize what's possible for a quarterback like Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually gives a lot of credence to the
Speaker 3: whole offseason hype machine that has surrounded the Bears, because look,
Speaker 3: I was in the camp that, you know, keep riding
Speaker 3: with fields and trade the pick and add talent. Well
Speaker 3: they said, no, We're going with this guy who's superior.
Speaker 3: And I've seen enough through preseason games, like he hasn't
Speaker 3: even played the full game, and I know he'll run
Speaker 3: to the bumps that Brookies running too. But like that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff right there is special. Like I'm not
Speaker 3: saying he's generational. I'm gonna avoid that term, but that
Speaker 3: type of stuff is special and can change your franchise,
Speaker 3: so to pass I.
Speaker 1: Will I think he did more in college the games
Speaker 1: I watched when I went back to what like, he
Speaker 1: did more than anyone I've seen since luck. So whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it, Like it's gonna translate. Now,
Speaker 1: does it translate to being multiple pro bowler? Does it
Speaker 1: translate to like a Philip Rivers level of achievement? Do
Speaker 1: the translate to all time great? Like there's different levels
Speaker 1: to it, but it's going to translate somewhere on that continuum.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna not translate like, it's just not how
Speaker 1: long and how much can he rely on the improv
Speaker 1: because he is holding the ball a long time? Is
Speaker 1: he made some quicker decisions. But look, that was a
Speaker 1: question people were asking about Aaron Rodgers through like the
Speaker 1: first six or seven years of his careers, while he
Speaker 1: was winning MVPs and having some ups and downs actually
Speaker 1: and having some downstretches too, So there are different ways
Speaker 1: to do it. Let's look at a play where Adunze
Speaker 1: did not keep his feet in bounds. But this was
Speaker 1: actually my favorite play by Caleb of the game.
Speaker 2: It was close to being a touchdown.
Speaker 9: Big run by Purport. Now the big pass seven Williams run.
Speaker 2: To improve with those speed keep the play, al Williams
Speaker 2: told Duns. But it's led incomplete.
Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, Greg, Greg, I mean along the sideline,
Speaker 3: finds a guy open in the back corner the end.
Speaker 4: Zoneyees his foot was.
Speaker 3: Out of bounds, But wow, that and that's our talent
Speaker 3: right there, just ripping it down the sideline through the traffic.
Speaker 4: Beautiful stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy because those are plays that
Speaker 1: Mahomes pulls off. Just not many people in the history
Speaker 1: of the game have made plays like that and just
Speaker 1: the absolute and utter confidence. And you saw this in
Speaker 1: the college you weren't sure how and we'll see in
Speaker 1: regular season play how much it translates. Like he is
Speaker 1: not even worried about the first guy coming through tackling him.
Speaker 1: He's dancing with these pass rushers three feet in front
Speaker 1: of him and thinking what am I gonna do? Not
Speaker 1: even thinking, oh, this guy could actually sack me. He's
Speaker 1: just making them look bad. And then make a throw
Speaker 1: like that and yeah, two plays later. If you know,
Speaker 1: if you watch highlights, you would have seen the ridiculous
Speaker 1: scramble touchdown that he had. So it's just play after play.
Speaker 1: It's exciting. I'm not crowning him. I don't know what
Speaker 1: is with Like Twitter, people are like not what, like.
Speaker 2: Don't enjoy this?
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams like thing, Just enjoy it's fun. It's football.
Speaker 1: Like this is how I felt watching Patrick Mahomes start play,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is going to be great
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years.
Speaker 3: I was right, yeah, and it's panned out now I'm
Speaker 3: not going to be a bucket of cold water.
Speaker 4: But you did make a good note there that he
Speaker 4: does hold on the ball.
Speaker 3: A little long, and I do worry about what that's
Speaker 3: going to look like when the pressure increases, because I
Speaker 3: don't think this line's going to hold up quite as
Speaker 3: well in a regular season environment as it has against
Speaker 3: a vanilla defense in the preseason. He does it's not
Speaker 3: that he's processing slow, but the hitching like he's doing
Speaker 3: a lot of pocket hitching, and I'm worried about what
Speaker 3: that's going to do. But if he can evade and
Speaker 3: extend plays like that, we're thinking not only Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking a little bit of early Russell Wilson and
Speaker 3: the way that he used to extend plays.
Speaker 1: Sure, I like that, And yeah, I'm not expecting it
Speaker 1: all to be easy. This was against the Bengals backups.
Speaker 1: It took a while for their starting group to get going,
Speaker 1: so that that's all worth noting. But the plays are
Speaker 1: the plays, and there's only so many people that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen that could make those plays. So you can
Speaker 1: see it with your eyes, it doesn't matter who's it's against.
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon was back in this game, just very active
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Keep an eye, you know, with all
Speaker 1: these backups in the game for the Bengals, there wasn't
Speaker 1: a lot to take out of it, but keep an
Speaker 1: eye on Jamar Chase's situation. It's just been sitting around
Speaker 1: like it's about time. This is actually the week that
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's about time to fix that.
Speaker 1: So we'll see Yoshivash I've mentioned on the show many
Speaker 1: times under you he's really locked in as their wide
Speaker 1: receiver three. And then with a Marius Mims' injury, the
Speaker 1: spotlights on Trent Brown. And Trent Brown just has not
Speaker 1: been a reliable player throughout his career and just from
Speaker 1: what we've heard, he has not been on the field
Speaker 1: at Bengals training camp. He finally got back on then
Speaker 1: had another injury, and it's just if it's a lot
Speaker 1: is going to be riding on Trent Brown and a
Speaker 1: Marius Mims to stay healthy. We'll see if they can.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the rams in Chargers of the game.
Speaker 1: I went to Nick Shook. I got to start with
Speaker 1: like how the game presentation started. I went, I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the walker and I had fun. He really likes he
Speaker 1: still loves it even though it's the preseason, and like
Speaker 1: thirty minute, maybe fifteen minutes before the team was going
Speaker 1: to come out. They had already done their warm ups,
Speaker 1: but they were going to come out for you know,
Speaker 1: the real warm ups.
Speaker 2: The last time, they were like.
Speaker 1: About fifteen minutes till Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers come out,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, well that's different. I've never
Speaker 1: heard a team kind of announced that way. But maybe
Speaker 1: it's just the PA guy just you know, kind of
Speaker 1: having some fun. It's the first game. And then when
Speaker 1: they came out onto the field, when they introduced them,
Speaker 1: they welcomed them as Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why that really got me. It was
Speaker 1: like Alvin and the Chipmunks, like I'm the I'm the
Speaker 1: like the lead singer of the band. Jim Harbaugh and
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Like that's how big a deal is. And
Speaker 1: I kind of liked how weird it is cut to
Speaker 1: immediately on the big screen at sofar it's a letter
Speaker 1: from Jim Harbaugh to all his players about being in
Speaker 1: the locker room and what it means to be a
Speaker 1: Charger in This is kind of like a pump up
Speaker 1: speech that that sometimes they'll play in games like this,
Speaker 1: but usually it's not the head coach of the team.
Speaker 1: And it's this long letter written and read by Jim Harbaugh,
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking, like, this is weird. This is
Speaker 1: a lot. This is like the culture personality. But I'm
Speaker 1: also kind of into it because it's Jim Harbaugh and
Speaker 1: it's different, but I like it.
Speaker 4: I just think about the Temptations movie.
Speaker 3: Anybody come to see you otis They're all here to
Speaker 3: see Jim Harbaugh and him wearing cleats on the field
Speaker 3: before games, like yes, and they need they needed it though,
Speaker 3: like they had no identity prior, they didn't and they
Speaker 3: needed a change.
Speaker 4: And if they're gonna go all in night, we'll see
Speaker 4: what happened.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's their pr like them trying to push the
Speaker 1: Harbaugh thing, but I tend to think because I just
Speaker 1: went like, how did this all happen? I tend to
Speaker 1: think it if I had to just guess, and it's
Speaker 1: just a guess that Jim Harbaugh was like I want
Speaker 1: I want it to be said Jim Harbaugh and the
Speaker 1: Chargers when they call.
Speaker 3: Me very two thousand and one Super Bowl, I want
Speaker 3: to announced as a team. Rams it's like the.
Speaker 2: Opposite of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: There was they did show there wasn't a ton in
Speaker 1: this game. They played their starters, which doesn't include Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert right now. They set a couple guys that are
Speaker 1: banged up, but pretty much played their starts, very creative
Speaker 1: with their run game and Joe Alt like you know,
Speaker 1: double team blocks and the power and the duo and
Speaker 1: he's on the move and.
Speaker 2: They stuck to it. Easton Stick was was bad. He
Speaker 2: is not it.
Speaker 1: Anytime there was anything positive going, he just threw a
Speaker 1: hope ball, or he fumbled a snap on the goal
Speaker 1: line or through a bad interception. And I just I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't I don't know how you
Speaker 1: can go to Week one with him as your starter
Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert doesn't get back. Justin Harber watching him
Speaker 1: during pregame warm ups, though no Limp throwing the ball around.
Speaker 1: It was him, Harbaugh and another one of the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: who were kind of warming up the receivers. Harbor's arm
Speaker 1: is not as strong as what it used to be,
Speaker 1: like a lot more zip on the NFL quarterbacks, but
Speaker 1: it was decent, much better than mine would be.
Speaker 2: But it was hanging up there a little.
Speaker 3: I think it is tell that they went and signed
Speaker 3: Louis Prez, former UFL and XFL hero. He didn't look
Speaker 3: really great, didn't look good, but the fact that they
Speaker 3: went and grabbed him tells me that they realize, oh,
Speaker 3: this might be bad behind Justin.
Speaker 4: We better hope Justin stays healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a team to watch.
Speaker 1: I think at the quarterback position in the next week.
Speaker 1: Just who could shake loose? I don't know, Tyler Huntley
Speaker 1: maybe from Cleveland. Yeah, like that would be better. Like
Speaker 1: there's just some there's some guys out there that would
Speaker 1: be better than what they have. They were playing DJ
Speaker 1: Shark and Quintin Johnston pretty late into the third quarter
Speaker 1: of this game. You wanted to read into that. That
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting to me, you know, with Louis Prez,
Speaker 1: you know, playing after Brandon Rice and Darius Davis.
Speaker 2: Just that's a weird situation.
Speaker 1: And then I think it hasn't gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: attention that Matthew Stafford has a hamstring injury and just
Speaker 1: continues to miss practice and is going to continue to
Speaker 1: miss practice. Sean mcva says he'll be fine for Week one,
Speaker 1: but a little concerned about my thirty six year old
Speaker 1: quarterback with a soft tissue injury rams fans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'd be concerned. Hamstrings can be tricky
Speaker 3: because they don't heal quickly. They can be nagging. You
Speaker 3: rush back too soon, you're gonna get a bigger issue.
Speaker 3: And he's not young, so fair valid, but I'm not
Speaker 3: going to panic until it starts to limit him on
Speaker 3: the field. And then at that point, No, they put
Speaker 3: their announcers. They have like one of the best announcing
Speaker 3: teams with Mina Chimes and Andrew Siciliano, our friend.
Speaker 2: Both of them are our friends.
Speaker 1: Of course, they're both so good, and Andrew Whitworth, and
Speaker 1: then they have Sean mcvagh in the booth during the game.
Speaker 2: Did you catch any of that? I did not.
Speaker 1: I actually don't want to go back and watch it,
Speaker 1: but I was trying to catch up with all these games.
Speaker 2: I have not seen that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was in the same boat.
Speaker 3: But I did see Aubrey Pleasant on the sideline fire
Speaker 3: and his team up really embracing being the head coach
Speaker 3: for a day.
Speaker 4: It was nice.
Speaker 9: I like that.
Speaker 1: I like what he did putting a spotlight on Aubrey Pleasant,
Speaker 1: which if you hear people around the league like kind
Speaker 1: of talk about young rising talents. He has such a
Speaker 1: great reputation. Jordan Whittington I think is a real receiver.
Speaker 1: Now they have really good depth. He has looked like
Speaker 1: their best offensive player through two weeks of the preseason
Speaker 1: for the Rams. All right, let's move on to your Browns.
Speaker 1: They played the Vikings. Let's go with the biggest news
Speaker 1: between these two teams that have happened since we started,
Speaker 1: which is a Stephan Gilmore is on the Vikings. So
Speaker 1: that was the team that to me made all the
Speaker 1: sense in the world. The Panthers, I think wanted him.
Speaker 1: They needed they needed a cornerback. I think Gilmore chose
Speaker 1: the team that's better, and he chose a defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: he knows well.
Speaker 2: And Brian Flores.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, look, we saw two veterans get signed this week, right,
Speaker 3: the other one being Justin Simmons. It kind of reaks
Speaker 3: of the old like Michael Strahan sitting at a practice thing,
Speaker 3: but sitting at a training camp.
Speaker 1: Well that is it because it's this portion too, because
Speaker 1: training camp officially ended like this week. Now it just
Speaker 1: goes into regular season prep.
Speaker 3: Mode, right, so you can just step on a field
Speaker 3: and be like, all right, I'm here I'm ready to
Speaker 3: prepare for the season. I didn't need camp and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna ball out. It's a nice reinforcement for them, a
Speaker 3: team that on paper like is a bit in flux,
Speaker 3: but could use some help at that position. So I
Speaker 3: like the signing for them. It's kind of a no brainer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been really injured, and I think they needed
Speaker 1: a cornerback before they were injured, and then they got injured.
Speaker 2: I think that's a big move for them.
Speaker 1: I know that playoff game is in everyone's mind, at
Speaker 1: least Packers fans. When I threw out the possibility of
Speaker 1: Gilmore joining the Packers at one point, Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: smoked a few times in the it was the end
Speaker 1: of a long season, and he's a veteran. He played
Speaker 1: really well for the Cowboys for most of the last year.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm also the speaking of corners with the Vikings. They
Speaker 3: made that trade and a Sean Wright from Dallas. Andrew
Speaker 3: Booth goes to Dallas. Andrew Booth had a hell of
Speaker 3: a game in that Raiders game. By the way, I
Speaker 3: know I didn't touch on it.
Speaker 2: Earlier for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Fantastic, Yes, a great open field tackler. Well, that's where the.
Speaker 1: Preseason, that's not what he's known for either, by the way,
Speaker 1: I know in the preseason, that's what it's for. Like that,
Speaker 1: dude was not a lot to make that team, I
Speaker 1: think when that trade was happened. But a game like that,
Speaker 1: then you make the team. Yeah, and that's what the
Speaker 1: preseasons for. The Browns are in a bit of a
Speaker 1: crisis with their tackles. YEP, I didn't realize Jedrick Wills.
Speaker 1: I knew he started camp on the pup list, but
Speaker 1: he's still there, and then his backup got hurt, and
Speaker 1: then his backup's backup got hurt, and they're starting right
Speaker 1: tackle Jock Conklin is still on an injury list. So
Speaker 1: that's that's count of one. That's four tackles that are hurt.
Speaker 1: That's not good.
Speaker 3: I would expect them to make an addition if any
Speaker 3: of those are serious. Obviously if Dwan Jones on the
Speaker 3: right side, so that's kind of a fail safe for
Speaker 3: them on that side. But on the left side, Jed
Speaker 3: Wills and you and I have talked about this, but
Speaker 3: Jed Wills is a guy who has never lived up
Speaker 3: to his first round billing. But still not having him
Speaker 3: is concerning, and then losing his backups is even more concerning.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never been a hichemidentity guy, but I've
Speaker 3: also never really been a James Hudson guy. But I
Speaker 3: would like to have either of them on the field
Speaker 3: as opposed to not. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: So they Hudson was a backup, and then his backup
Speaker 1: also got hurt, we'll see, ye. Just a team that's
Speaker 1: been really injured in general, like Jerry Judy's barely practice
Speaker 1: for this team, Newsome a couple other starters. On the
Speaker 1: pup listic, they're quietly top five most injured teams in
Speaker 1: the league without a doubt, maybe top three.
Speaker 3: They lost center Luke Whippler in the game against the
Speaker 3: Packers and had to go trade for to bring Nick
Speaker 3: Harris back from Seattle, a guy that they had drafted
Speaker 3: who suffered his own injury in preseason a few years ago.
Speaker 4: So they've made moves already. They probably gon have to
Speaker 4: make more that I.
Speaker 1: Think they've had a bad camp in general just because
Speaker 1: of the injuries. That's the worst thing that can happen.
Speaker 1: And then some offield stuff. We hadn't addressed this on
Speaker 1: the on the show. But Michael Hall, their second round
Speaker 1: pick defensive lineman, arrested for a misdemeanor domestic violence charge.
Speaker 1: He continued practicing with the team and actually played in
Speaker 1: this game, so they are continuing to employ him and
Speaker 1: play them. And they said they're gonna wait for the
Speaker 1: legal process to run its course with that. But that's
Speaker 1: just another thing for the Browns and a decision that
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have to make. Some players who
Speaker 1: are lower on the depth chart, they have a domestic
Speaker 1: violence charge and there was you know, some of the
Speaker 1: details that came out on the police report. They get
Speaker 1: cut and it didn't happen in this case. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move to Titans Seahawks, another backups a plenty game.
Speaker 1: I know you watch some of it, shuck, So what
Speaker 1: do you got for me? What was interesting from Titans Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Slinging Sammy Halle Baby Okay, okay. We back on the
Speaker 3: Around the NFL podcast about a year ago. At this time,
Speaker 3: I was flabbergasted that Ron Rivera was going to proceed
Speaker 3: with Sam Hall as the starting quarterback going to twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three, And there were glimpses at times where I
Speaker 3: was like I see why he went with them and
Speaker 3: ultimately the wheels fell off.
Speaker 4: We know what happened in Washington.
Speaker 3: Well, he seems to have taken a small step forward
Speaker 3: with Seattle or he just doesn't care in his letting
Speaker 3: it rip, because.
Speaker 4: He had a heck of a game in Nashville.
Speaker 3: He's throwing passes on the scene down the sideline, dropping
Speaker 3: dimes all over the issue.
Speaker 2: He lets it rip, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: But even navigating the pocket, he threw a beautiful touchdown
Speaker 3: pass eastob Winston. I mean, dropped it in the bucket.
Speaker 3: You couldn't you couldn't run it up there and put
Speaker 3: it in the guy's hand better than he placed it. Overall,
Speaker 3: just a great game for him, and it excites me
Speaker 3: to have, you know, Sam Howe getting an opportunity to
Speaker 3: get those reps while Gino Smith is not playing during
Speaker 3: the preseason. Not saying every want to see them go
Speaker 3: to him, but you know, for somebody who has already
Speaker 3: been through a lot in his short career, it was cool.
Speaker 1: It was nice to see and by all accounts, really
Speaker 1: struggled to start training camp that Yeah, the idea that
Speaker 1: there was going to be a competition was laughable because
Speaker 1: Gino came out hot and there wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: a competition anyways, and he Howell was struggling, So that's
Speaker 1: good to hear. And I did go back because I
Speaker 1: wanted to find what happened during this week because they
Speaker 1: had joint practices and Titans and Seahawks played all their
Speaker 1: starters obviously in those joint practices, and that's where they
Speaker 1: got their work.
Speaker 2: Just a couple of little notes there.
Speaker 1: Michael Sean Dugar, who does a really great job with
Speaker 1: the Athletic has noticed that like the Geno JSN, you know,
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigwab, just the chemistry he just believes
Speaker 1: has been off the charts, the anticipation, the timing, the
Speaker 1: post practice, you know, kudos that Gino is giving to JSN,
Speaker 1: just something to watch their Lockett getting a little older. Also,
Speaker 1: there's been reports there just really making a point to
Speaker 1: like throw it to DK even when sometimes the coverage
Speaker 1: dictates not to, like he can still make those catches in.
Speaker 1: DK is reportedly having a good camp and so you
Speaker 1: just might see a little more of the target share
Speaker 1: I think for those two guys, and maybe a little
Speaker 1: less of Tyler Lockett, who's getting a little older and
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract.
Speaker 2: But either way, that's a good problem to have.
Speaker 1: Like they they are deep at wide receiver, and I
Speaker 1: think they were lighting up the Titans because the Titans
Speaker 1: never have their cornerbacks practice. Lagerius sneed like never practices,
Speaker 1: just like when he was in Kansas City because of
Speaker 1: his knee, and Shadobi a Wuzi has still been out
Speaker 1: with this calf injury, so that they are a little
Speaker 1: short handed in the secondary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious in this depth chart. I would love
Speaker 3: to see if Jake Bobo makes this team.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think he's locked in at four,
Speaker 1: four or five.
Speaker 3: And that's a fun group. If you add him in
Speaker 3: that mix, that's a really fun group for Gino to
Speaker 3: throw too.
Speaker 1: He might have a real you know, if he's four,
Speaker 1: he's only going to play if someone's hurt. But it
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise that he'll have a real chance to have
Speaker 1: a real role, like maybe replacing Locket next year. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a way to save some money if you if
Speaker 1: you think a guy like that can can step up. Also,
Speaker 1: just little housekeeping note, arden Key, the pass rusher for
Speaker 1: the Titans six game deed suspension was overturned. You don't
Speaker 1: see that too often. No, you know, the guys always
Speaker 1: say I didn't do it. Here's why, here's how. In
Speaker 1: this case, the league found the evidence compelling. According to
Speaker 1: ESPN reported it. They actually weren't the first to report it,
Speaker 1: though Jeffrey Simmons, the Titans defensive lineman, put it out
Speaker 1: there first, but ESPN confirmed it, and good news for
Speaker 1: the Titans there.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's let's talk.
Speaker 1: One of the games that I think was most interesting,
Speaker 1: Steelers Bills. Let's talk Justin Fields. Okay, Justin Fields replaced
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who really struggled in this game.
Speaker 2: And I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm driving that Justin Fields should start bandwagon here.
Speaker 1: But I gotta say I went to watch this game
Speaker 1: after seeing everyone say that Nick, and I expected like
Speaker 1: a good fields game, and I didn't see it. I
Speaker 1: did have what you had, some good fields and some
Speaker 1: bad field that's every field.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the good fields.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to and watch one of the nice plays
Speaker 1: from Justin Fields in this game.
Speaker 8: Seven instead of a thirty two fields, some pressure up
Speaker 8: there then trying to get away from me and he
Speaker 8: does We're moving to his left throwing manpu reception along
Speaker 8: the sidelines.
Speaker 2: That is a sick play. He's about to get tackled.
Speaker 1: He gets out of it just because he's so strong,
Speaker 1: and then almost Caleb Williams like throws to the left
Speaker 1: with a lot of heat on a sideline route and
Speaker 1: gets it to his receivers. And yes, there were a
Speaker 1: few plays like that. But I saw you shaking your head,
Speaker 1: you know, so I think you're on the same page
Speaker 1: as me that it's still he had a chance. When
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson went out of that game to really say
Speaker 1: this is my job, I don't think he quite went
Speaker 1: that far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that play specifically, when I watched that live,
Speaker 3: I immediately got in the slack and let the guys in
Speaker 3: the desk know I just saw the dumbest and most
Speaker 3: thrilling play of the preseason, which is justin Field's pulling
Speaker 3: his best Eli Manning impression to break a sack and
Speaker 3: then get away and throw almost directly into coverage. It
Speaker 3: gets tipped and he gets caught in the sideline. But
Speaker 3: like I saw graphics being shared on social media after
Speaker 3: the game comparing his and Russell Wilson's stats and then
Speaker 3: at the bottom was like Steeler's mustard, just three points,
Speaker 3: and that really tells you the story of what happened
Speaker 3: in this game. I know it's a preseason game, but
Speaker 3: it was a lot of what we saw in Chicago,
Speaker 3: and it was justin holding on the ball too long,
Speaker 3: pulling his eyes down too quickly, getting panicked, acting frantically
Speaker 3: in the pocket, trying to make the best out of nothing,
Speaker 3: and not really trusting his progressions, and it became pretty
Speaker 3: frustrating because he did miss an open touchdown throw at
Speaker 3: one point.
Speaker 4: He's still a supreme athlete.
Speaker 3: He still can extend plays and make plays with his legs,
Speaker 3: which is a big part of his production in this game.
Speaker 4: But it's not consistent.
Speaker 3: It's not reliable enough to think that this guy can
Speaker 3: go out there and do that on a weekly basis.
Speaker 3: It's more of the lightning in a bottle style of
Speaker 3: football that you never build your team around. And I
Speaker 3: was hoping that coming into Atlanta, or not coming into Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: excuse me, after being in Chicago, that he would be
Speaker 3: able to kind of take a next step with Arthur
Speaker 3: Smith as a ZOCI and instead I think it's it
Speaker 3: might be a bad fit, and I'm worried about long
Speaker 3: term how it's going to play out.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's come down. We're in the pre sale, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: But on Russ's side, he doesn't have he didn't have
Speaker 3: any time to throw in that game. So it wasn't
Speaker 3: a good sample size for him either, because that line
Speaker 3: doesn't look very good.
Speaker 1: No, although it protected fields, I thought fine because once
Speaker 1: you hit the right point there, which is he was
Speaker 1: running from clean pockets some of his best plays. And
Speaker 1: I get it that he is exciting and he is
Speaker 1: the better option I think for a bad offense. And
Speaker 1: I also just think the offense itself looks like a
Speaker 1: total mess, and so the quarterbacks are part of it,
Speaker 1: but the protection like the number two receivers Van Jefferson
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren left this game with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 2: He might miss Week one. That's really a bummer.
Speaker 1: He you know, he's I would say, if he's not
Speaker 1: their best skill posession player, he's their second best behind
Speaker 1: George Pickens.
Speaker 2: Like that's a huge problem for them.
Speaker 1: But you know, he left clean pockets and so even
Speaker 1: his some of his best scrambles were plays that when
Speaker 1: you watch the All twenty two, he had open receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he didn't pull the trigger and that was well.
Speaker 1: I think was similar between him and Russell Wilson, that
Speaker 1: neither one of them were pulling the trigger. The difference
Speaker 1: was Russell Wilson just had very little protection. But the
Speaker 1: times that he did, he didn't look good. Before we
Speaker 1: move on from fields, we showed the good fields. I
Speaker 1: am going to show kind of my example of the
Speaker 1: bad field, and.
Speaker 8: It is an option playing Peels has nowhere to go,
Speaker 8: and I think Buffalo knew it was coming and he's
Speaker 8: trapped and of the go for a significant loss and
Speaker 8: a change of possession. Joe M. Dreesen, the kid out
Speaker 8: of Buffalo, I'm drafted free agent number forty four, led
Speaker 8: the way. But nobody was fooled on that play.
Speaker 2: So it's six to three at that point.
Speaker 1: Bill's late in the third and they call a read
Speaker 1: option and doesn't.
Speaker 4: Feel maybe the wrong read.
Speaker 1: It was a touchdown if he just handed the ball off,
Speaker 1: and that that had just happened a couple of times.
Speaker 1: They wanted that score so desperately. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you watched to the very end, but they just kept
Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down in the red zone.
Speaker 1: They got there a couple times, and whether it was dropbacks,
Speaker 1: whether it was him running like he was just sort
Speaker 1: of freezing, like they wanted to leave with something positive
Speaker 1: at the end. That wasn't even the last time that
Speaker 1: he got close and they didn't get it. And I
Speaker 1: think part of the reason Tomlin maybe wanted it because
Speaker 1: maybe he wanted it feels to just go win this job,
Speaker 1: do so than positive because of the stink on the
Speaker 1: field after the Russell Wilson start. I mean, I get
Speaker 1: the offensive line was so bad PROGERC. Jones could be
Speaker 1: a real problem with him. He got absolutely roasted a
Speaker 1: couple times at right tackle, so that hurt Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: but a couple times he did have a chance. Nick
Speaker 1: I thought in this game when you slow it down,
Speaker 1: he just wouldn't let go of the ball, no anticipation
Speaker 1: on his throws, just waiting to see a guy open.
Speaker 1: And then he holds it on these two third and
Speaker 1: longs and ends up just dumping it down, which is
Speaker 1: not the old Russell Wilson, just playing it almost Sean
Speaker 1: Payton like just overly safe just dumping it down and
Speaker 1: not really going for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only time he ever got the ball out,
Speaker 3: even relatively on time, was when he dumped it down
Speaker 3: and the arm's still there and everything.
Speaker 4: But like, it's just he doesn't look comfortable.
Speaker 3: Another thing I have an issue with, and I know
Speaker 3: Troy Fatana not being able to play had a role
Speaker 3: in this, but Roger Jones is in his second year
Speaker 3: in the NFL and he's playing on the left side,
Speaker 3: and then suddenly they're playing him on the right side.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if you remember the old Tristan
Speaker 3: Worst quote, but playing right tack as opposed to playing
Speaker 3: left tackles like trying to wipe your butt with the
Speaker 3: opposite hand. Like it's a little foreign and awkward, and yeah,
Speaker 3: that's not fair to do to a young tackle. I
Speaker 3: felt bad for him as soon as I saw him
Speaker 3: at right tackle to start the game, because I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is not gonna go and Dan Moore has been
Speaker 3: graded poorly by PFF for years, so like they're not
Speaker 3: going to be in a good situation against that Bill's defense.
Speaker 3: I wanted to write about how the Bill's defense looks
Speaker 3: so good, and then I'm thinking that's the starters against
Speaker 3: an offensive line that's kind of passwork and doesn't look
Speaker 3: very good. So I'm gonna, you know, pump the brakes
Speaker 3: on that. It's just it wasn't a good situation for
Speaker 3: Russell to show off anything because he didn't have time
Speaker 3: to throw. But then going back to fields too real
Speaker 3: quick on that play that we just showed. This was
Speaker 3: the play that made me worried because this is a
Speaker 3: play that tells me this is a quarterback who's trying
Speaker 3: to go win a game or score on his own
Speaker 3: and not actually following the structure of the offense.
Speaker 1: It's a reason I've seen in the field, so he
Speaker 1: never committed to see the field as a runner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the passer because there were the other fourth down
Speaker 1: play that they got stopped. He had time and and
Speaker 1: just froze a little bit. So they're just not comfortable
Speaker 1: right now in Pittsburgh. No, it doesn't look like they're
Speaker 1: getting Brandon at Yuk by the way, you know, it
Speaker 1: just I think it's disappointing. They also lost their center,
Speaker 1: one of the Herberg brothers. I can't I don't know
Speaker 1: which Herberg is, which there's two Herbigs. It's Nate and Nick.
Speaker 1: They're both on the Steelers. One's a pass rusher. One
Speaker 1: was the starting center, but it sounds like he had
Speaker 1: a pretty serious innate the linebacker, and they drafted Kid
Speaker 1: Frazier to kind of probably take that job anyways, and
Speaker 1: now he will be starting. So they're gonna be young.
Speaker 1: We'll see, maybe they'll they'll get it all together. For
Speaker 1: the Bills, they didn't play their starters too long in
Speaker 1: this game, right, They had Mitchell Trubisky, they sat Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: but they played a lot of the other starters. Trubisky
Speaker 1: struggled and got hurt in the game, so that's a
Speaker 1: bad combination.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trubisky looked bad.
Speaker 3: He actually was greeted by a Steelers fans with the
Speaker 3: chorus of boosts when they announced his name as the
Speaker 3: quarterback for them.
Speaker 2: It was like a backup that was fine.
Speaker 3: He was that he was bad enough to get replaced
Speaker 3: by Mason Rudolph, and they realized how bad he was
Speaker 3: because Mason suddenly helped led them to win lay Down
Speaker 3: down the stretch of the season. The defensively, the Bills
Speaker 3: did play a decent amount of starters for a little
Speaker 3: bit of time, but offensively, it wasn't much. The only
Speaker 3: bright spot in this game was Ray Davis. Ray Davis
Speaker 3: is a dog.
Speaker 4: Greg. We talked about this last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a nice little late round handcuff or just pick
Speaker 1: up if you're if you're not into drafting your running
Speaker 1: backs early, just take a shot on Reda.
Speaker 3: It's like what you said West used to say preseason.
Speaker 3: You can always tell when running backs are legit or not.
Speaker 3: Ray Davis is legit. Keep an eye on him.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. I read Joe Basalia from
Speaker 1: the Athletics his roster breakdown. Lyle Collins might not make
Speaker 1: this team for the Bills, just just a name out
Speaker 1: there that his career has bit on the downslope. But
Speaker 1: I would have expected him to make this Bills team.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Greg Russeau, who was the guy who was
Speaker 1: abusing Proderc. Jones, you know, could be in line for
Speaker 1: a breakout season. He's been a steadily rising good player.
Speaker 1: But reports are that he's been dominant at camp and
Speaker 1: so I'm looking to him. Jags and Bucks played another
Speaker 1: backups game. Mac Jones looks like he locked up the
Speaker 1: backup job, which kind of was up for grabs because
Speaker 1: he reportedly hasn't looked that good in training camp with CJ. Bethard,
Speaker 1: but he played pretty well in this game and Bethard
Speaker 1: didn't and Bethard got hurt, so that pretty much ended
Speaker 1: that tank. Bigsby's a second year running back who struggled
Speaker 1: as a rookie, who's had some nice preseason moments.
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna go to the.
Speaker 1: Joint practices and the reports out of that from Pewter
Speaker 1: Report and then John Shipley on SA dot com, who
Speaker 1: you know, everyone just said Brian Thomas had a really
Speaker 1: strong joint practice showing just people just could not cover him.
Speaker 1: And so the combination of Brian Thomas going deep and
Speaker 1: then Gave Davis actually being used kind of on intermediate
Speaker 1: routes has borne some fruit in the last week or
Speaker 1: two or so at Jaguars camp.
Speaker 3: I think that's Gabe Davis's great strength when he was
Speaker 3: finding success in Buffalo, he was doing that. It wasn't
Speaker 3: him trying to stretch. So I think it's a good
Speaker 3: complimentary duo there. Greig mac Jones, we know what mac
Speaker 3: Jones is, and the duality of a mac Jones football
Speaker 3: game is still wildly entertaining.
Speaker 4: Both good and bad reasons.
Speaker 3: He's stumbling over himself in the pocket, but then he
Speaker 3: just rips a dime de Parker Washington, who, by the way,
Speaker 3: had a really good game, and I love the way
Speaker 3: that he's been playing this preseason and carving out a
Speaker 3: role for himself on this roster as well, because they
Speaker 3: got some talent at receiver. But my god, it's just
Speaker 3: it was so fun to watch him play and actually
Speaker 3: just having fun with football. Again, he's not in New
Speaker 3: England anymore. He doesn't have the weight of a franchise
Speaker 3: on his shoulders. He can just go play football and
Speaker 3: enjoy it. So it was really nice to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the ultimate case. And I think Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is another good one.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 1: The number one test of are you an NFL quarterback
Speaker 1: is can you deliver all the time if you're protected,
Speaker 1: because basically all of them can. If you protect an
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, like they're gonna be pretty good. Now they'll
Speaker 1: just be like Dalton Scale, like right at the line good.
Speaker 1: Maybe if there are a Mac Jones or Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: type of guy, but like, if you protect Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: he's actually he's gonna play well and that's Those are
Speaker 1: the guys that have long careers and can be at
Speaker 1: least in the league for a long time.
Speaker 2: And mac Jones can do that.
Speaker 1: Now if you give him pressure, all bets are off
Speaker 1: and watch out like he also might lose his mind
Speaker 1: a little bit. The Buccaneers are going to release Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: That was weird, that entire saga. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: They reportedly don't know what happened either, why he never
Speaker 1: showed up.
Speaker 2: I've heard some whispers that there's a.
Speaker 1: Team or two that want to bring him in, and
Speaker 1: maybe he knows that a team you'd rather go to.
Speaker 1: And so we'll see. Rookie Chris Braswell reportedly had four
Speaker 1: sacks in a joint practice and they're counting on him
Speaker 1: to make some noise, and I think they're going to
Speaker 1: start him at this point. And they're probably also going
Speaker 1: to start Tyke Smith at nickelback, so a little bit
Speaker 1: of a youth movement. So those are two players to
Speaker 1: watch for the Bucks. We're going to take one more break.
Speaker 1: We still have a few more games to get through. Nick,
Speaker 1: we have one more starting quarterback decided.
Speaker 2: On Sunday night. I bet you can figure out who
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily during the break, I learned our
Speaker 1: hard working producer Eric has a baby in his arms
Speaker 1: while he's producing. This is the type of extra effort
Speaker 1: that helps you make a team. Eric Roberts, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, let's go. I mean, we're putting this show
Speaker 1: out on Sunday nights. We're trying to be unique by
Speaker 1: doing this even in the preseason, almost treating it like
Speaker 1: a regular season, because look, we have live football.
Speaker 2: We've been waiting for it all off season.
Speaker 1: And these questions that we had Nick back in May
Speaker 1: and June, and maybe we could have guessed the answer,
Speaker 1: who is the Denver's starting quarterback? We probably would have
Speaker 1: guessed it right back in June, but we didn't actually
Speaker 1: know for sure until Sunday night, August eighteenth. Who is
Speaker 1: our starting quarterback of the Denver Broncos, Nick bo Nicks.
Speaker 4: Here we go. He's bawling, baby. He's doing everything I
Speaker 4: thought he would do coming out of Oregon.
Speaker 3: He had another really nice game on Sunday night and
Speaker 3: kind of confirmed not that's did almost terrible, but just
Speaker 3: kind of confirmed that he's ready for the job and
Speaker 3: he's gonna fit.
Speaker 4: What Sean Payton.
Speaker 3: Wants and perhaps will support Denver's decision to spend a
Speaker 3: first round pick on him. We'll see, but good start
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 1: Now we're taping this at a dangerous moment here. I
Speaker 1: don't actually know that they're naming him the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm just assuming it because that's where it was headed.
Speaker 1: It was set up that way. He started this game.
Speaker 1: And I don't know this for sure, but I bet
Speaker 1: Sean Payton did everything possible. Just break out the good stuff.
Speaker 1: Make sure bo Nicks is comfortable at he had the starters.
Speaker 1: He's going against the Packers backups. The Packers sat like
Speaker 1: thirty guys and call all the best plays. Not that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't try to do that, but maybe game plan
Speaker 1: just like a little bit more in the preseason that
Speaker 1: you wouldn't to make your rookie play well. Give him
Speaker 1: confidence because he's gonna be your guy. And he delivered
Speaker 1: eight for nine eighty yards, touchdown, ten points in his
Speaker 1: two drives and then they just took him out. Would
Speaker 1: have been two touchdowns, but the first touchdown throw he
Speaker 1: had that he was about a yard past the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. It's actually a pretty impressive improv improvisational play
Speaker 1: where he just lost track of just where he was
Speaker 1: on the field.
Speaker 2: So you know that was a mistake.
Speaker 1: But otherwise he got out of pressure and they diced
Speaker 1: them up. I mean, you can say it's against the backups,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times we don't see starters dice
Speaker 1: up the backups.
Speaker 2: They diced up the backups.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is the right step for a
Speaker 3: Sean Payton tenure that has been.
Speaker 4: Fraught with issues since he arrived.
Speaker 3: He showed up to a team that he did not
Speaker 3: but the quarterback that he didn't want, that he didn't choose,
Speaker 3: and tried to make the best of it and then
Speaker 3: realized this was not a work let's maybe him down
Speaker 3: the stretch.
Speaker 2: No, well, also letting everyone know this was not his guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going to bench him because of money,
Speaker 3: and it's going to cause a whole thing.
Speaker 4: And now they're on the you know, clear Skys and.
Speaker 3: New beginnings with mister bo Nicks, who actually you got
Speaker 3: to feel good for the kid because he started his
Speaker 3: career at Auburn and then ended up transferring to Oregon
Speaker 3: and had all this playtime in college to really develop
Speaker 3: because he never really developed at Auburn and now you
Speaker 3: look at him the NFL and you're like, oh, that
Speaker 3: kid's seen a lot of action and he looks more
Speaker 3: prepared than most guys at his age.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the benefit of him and Jayde Daniels being
Speaker 1: so old and playing so much college football that they
Speaker 1: can come into the league and they're just way more experienced.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like the four year college basketball players
Speaker 1: versus the guys who are just one and done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they have a lower long term ceiling, but a
Speaker 1: lot of times they can come in the league, in
Speaker 1: in the NBA and like be.
Speaker 2: A valuable role player right off the bat.
Speaker 1: And that's what in Bonix's case, I think the role
Speaker 1: he's trying to fill not be a role player, but
Speaker 1: be just a solid, steady quarterback.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm way more interested in this Seahawks Broncos Week
Speaker 1: one game than I was like a month ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just curious about both these teams. I
Speaker 1: want to see what it looks like. Bonick's very very
Speaker 1: solid camp. DeVante Williams very nice camp, has had some juice.
Speaker 1: He's their starter at running back, Tim Patrick. There was
Speaker 1: some question whether he would even make this team. He's
Speaker 1: made some plays in the preseason. Riley Moss is gonna
Speaker 1: lock down the job at cornerback, I believe, opposite Patrick Sartan,
Speaker 1: so he'll be, believe, the first White starting cornerback in
Speaker 1: a long time, because Cooper Dejine's been hurt, so everyone
Speaker 1: expected he's going to be the guy, but it's going
Speaker 1: to be Riley Moss, who was beaten on a play
Speaker 1: deep at one point, but for the most part played
Speaker 1: well in this game. I'm not going to take much
Speaker 1: out of the Packers because they didn't play any of
Speaker 1: their starters. But this actually has made me more optimistic
Speaker 1: nick about the Broncos than anything. Is that all the
Speaker 1: Packers and Broncos reporters that were there at the training
Speaker 1: camp practice was like, oh yeah, Denver kind of put
Speaker 1: it on them on both sides, especially the defense that
Speaker 1: the Packers defense, which has reportedly struggled throughout camp, Like
Speaker 1: Packers defense has been given it to him pretty good,
Speaker 1: and now the Broncos defense gave it to him pretty good.
Speaker 1: And reportedly bo Nicks held his own and did pretty
Speaker 1: well in the joint practices too. Now maybe that's it's
Speaker 1: the mile High err or maybe the Broncos are just
Speaker 1: like a little more ready right now than we expect.
Speaker 2: Who knows. I don't want to draw too much from it,
Speaker 2: but if I'm a Packers fan, I'm like, like a
Speaker 2: mildly concerned.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because they're going in the season with so
Speaker 3: many expectations after how they ended last year, and we
Speaker 3: don't take too much away from camp in preseason and
Speaker 3: everything else. But I just think from a Broncos perspective,
Speaker 3: it's really nice to see what Sean Payton could potentially
Speaker 3: do because last year there were times where I was like, man,
Speaker 3: he's halfway to the country club, Like this is the
Speaker 3: Mike Ditka in the Saints job for him. And yet
Speaker 3: now they look like they're in a better position. So
Speaker 3: I'm very excited to watch them. And also a tradition,
Speaker 3: unlike any other Seahawks Broncos Week one, we're just gonna
Speaker 3: make that an annual thing, now, Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: Look, Sean Payton's a Hall of Famer. He's one of
Speaker 1: the best offensive coaches ever period.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for you know, since two thousand
Speaker 1: and four. He might still be my you know him
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahany would be my number one, number one,
Speaker 1: and number two, and Andy Reid number one, two, three
Speaker 1: in some order. Even last year, I think you could
Speaker 1: see that he could coach offense like he just just had.
Speaker 1: He gets his teams to focus on the details. So well,
Speaker 1: he's he's just a special coach. It's everything else that
Speaker 1: was going on, So we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm my guy.
Speaker 1: Michael Pratt didn't didn't really take advantage of his chance
Speaker 1: to become the backup quarterback. Both him and Sean Clifford
Speaker 1: have both been struggling, but Pratt, with a fumble in
Speaker 1: this game, couldn't really move the ball. Final score Broncos
Speaker 1: twenty seven, Packers too. I usually don't even give this
Speaker 1: final score, but that one is just a you know,
Speaker 1: objectively funny final score twenty seven to two Cardinals Colts.
Speaker 1: This was the game I have the hardest time taking
Speaker 1: anything from, just because there's not a ton of reports
Speaker 1: from either his teams during the week.
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of starters in this game.
Speaker 1: Trey Benson, the rookie running back of the Cardinals, I thought,
Speaker 1: had a bunch of really good runs a really great
Speaker 1: touchdown run. That was like, Wow, this guy can cut
Speaker 1: laterally while really moving fast.
Speaker 2: So that was impressive.
Speaker 1: James Boyd of the Athletics says the eighty Mitchell's really
Speaker 1: been playing better of late in that this wide receiver
Speaker 1: three job. When Josh Downs gets healthy again, maybe it
Speaker 1: will be Mitchell over Alec Pierce, who knows has kind
Speaker 1: of gone back and forth.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll split it.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Mitchell, if you give him the runway,
Speaker 3: you give him the length of time he needs zactly made.
Speaker 3: The kid is so talented, he's gonna make himself a role.
Speaker 3: It's just you have to have patience with him. And
Speaker 3: the good thing about the Colts is that what we
Speaker 3: learned last year is that they have plenty of patients
Speaker 3: because they lost their quarterback after a month and found
Speaker 3: a way to still stay competitive with Gardner Minshew. So
Speaker 3: keep an eye on ad Mitchell in the long run.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna end up being a productive player
Speaker 3: and all the criticism going to the draft is just
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, an afterthought.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting Odingbo was playing in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of this game. I had him on my
Speaker 1: top fifty free Agents of twenty twenty five. Maybe I
Speaker 1: had him too high. If he's playing in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of this game. Good pass rusher for the Colts,
Speaker 1: but a little further down the depth chart maybe than
Speaker 1: I thought. Layout to Lotsu, by all accounts, has just
Speaker 1: been awesome at their training camp. I want, I want
Speaker 1: to say more about the Cardinals. I need, I need,
Speaker 1: I need more data I'm not hearing enough about like
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior. I don't you know I could hit
Speaker 1: you with their backup quarterback battle. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it's Desmond Ritter. But there's there's not a lot right now.
Speaker 1: So give me more Cardinals reporters. I know you're out there.
Speaker 1: I'm missing it. I'm not seeing it, so give it
Speaker 1: to me. I need more in the right end. The
Speaker 1: fans like, let me know what's going on. What's interesting there?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Jade.
Speaker 1: Lonnie Woods is a name at tight end of the Colts,
Speaker 1: just again playing in this game to a lot to
Speaker 1: make this team. Just a name that I used to
Speaker 1: be pretty high on and hasn't been working out for him.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think he's in his tough spot because that tight
Speaker 3: end group also has mo Ali Cox not the same.
Speaker 1: Island Rayson was also sat in this game, which means
Speaker 1: that that's their tight two tight ends. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess yeah, but he's yeah, he's down the he's down
Speaker 1: the list Saints forty nine ers was our other Sunday
Speaker 1: Night game, forty nine or sixteen Saints ten.
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1: They're really using him at running back, like for real,
Speaker 1: for real and it looks good like and I'm digging it.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought that Sean Payton leaves in Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill gets better? Because I thought Taysom Hill maybe had
Speaker 1: his best year ever last year, and now that he's
Speaker 1: like a real running back along with everything else he is,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a tight end anymore. But you
Speaker 1: could still use him as a receiver a little bit like.
Speaker 3: Into it the best use of him in this game
Speaker 3: that I saw tonight lead blocking for Jamal Williams around
Speaker 3: the left side and just getting into his assignment and
Speaker 3: clearing a path for Jamal to get a first down.
Speaker 3: I was like, Yeah, we know he loves contact, we
Speaker 3: know he loves to do a little bit of everything,
Speaker 3: so why not throw him out in front lead the way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, some talk about. Is Jamal Williams definitely making this
Speaker 1: team even though Alvin Kamara has been hurt five for
Speaker 1: thirty two tonight, so had a good night that should
Speaker 1: help his case. And yeah, Taysom Hill actually scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown as a lead blocker as a full back on
Speaker 1: a fourth and fourth and goal. Derek Carr started this
Speaker 1: game seven for nine, forty seven yards.
Speaker 2: You know they did have a scoring drive.
Speaker 1: I asked my friend Adam West from the Saints block
Speaker 1: party poadcast, who is at the game at that nice
Speaker 1: in person twenty two like me and Walker did, And
Speaker 1: I said, if you send me some notes, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna read him on the show.
Speaker 2: We'll get his live reporting. So here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna edit this somewhat because he's he's a little
Speaker 1: too anti Derek Carr. The offensive line was was better.
Speaker 1: It was mostly against forty nine ers backups. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Rattler had a shaky game. Someone was on him, someone
Speaker 1: was on his teammates. But I think the Rattler agenda
Speaker 1: of him potentially at some point challenging Derek Carr that
Speaker 1: I was put on hold. Right now, Jay Cayner has
Speaker 1: a chance to still be the backup.
Speaker 2: We don't know. They're pretty deep at linebacker the Saints.
Speaker 2: That's a good thing to have.
Speaker 1: Adam says, no clue who the starting safety is opposite
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. And then I did want to highlight this
Speaker 2: last point.
Speaker 1: Chase Young looks good and Brian Briscy is going to
Speaker 1: make the leap, And yeah, there has been like a
Speaker 1: steady drumbeat of Chase Young really reckon shop and Brian Brisci,
Speaker 1: I think is a really good second year player. So
Speaker 1: if you're looking for the strength, maybe the most interesting
Speaker 1: thing about what the Saints is that defensive line actually
Speaker 1: could be quite good. Carl Granderson, you still have Cam
Speaker 1: Jordan in a little bit of a different role.
Speaker 2: That's a good group.
Speaker 3: I like Brici because he doesn't fit the traditional mold
Speaker 3: of a dtackle, but he's so fast that you can
Speaker 3: win with that. He's not Aaron Donald, But what made
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald so good? Quickness? Power?
Speaker 4: Right, Bercy's quick, so to hear that is good.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see him operate as part of
Speaker 3: that defensive front for this team because their offense still
Speaker 3: isn't very good. Like I know, it's the preseason, but
Speaker 3: they have a hard time scoring. They had a hard
Speaker 3: time getting the end zone today when they got to
Speaker 3: the doorstep. So if they need to lean on their
Speaker 3: defense more, it's gonna start up front. Always starts up front,
Speaker 3: so that's exciting for them.
Speaker 1: Then again, sometimes you see starters out there and they
Speaker 1: really struggle and you're like, you know, brock Purty went
Speaker 1: two for six for eleven yards and through one of
Speaker 1: the more curious passes of the week that almost got
Speaker 1: picked off across his body, and I don't think anything
Speaker 1: differently of Black Party after that performance. It's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay, I've seen enough. He was also playing with backups.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the forty nine ers wanted him to get
Speaker 1: some good work in and he didn't. So that's disappointing.
Speaker 1: But their big issue is who's not there. Brandon Ayuk,
Speaker 1: we'll see at this point. I think the big expectation
Speaker 1: is he will sign. And then I did think it
Speaker 1: was interesting. Christina Pink, the Fox sideline reporter who spoke
Speaker 1: I believe it was with Shanahan and said said, as
Speaker 1: much as like they're not worried about Trent Williams, that
Speaker 1: you know that that's going to be taken care of
Speaker 1: in time. And you were saying about the veterans skipping camp. Basically,
Speaker 1: I think there is a little bit of that going
Speaker 1: on with Trent Williams, that he's going to get some
Speaker 1: sort of raise, and I think this week is probably
Speaker 1: the week that he shows up. Whether it's early in
Speaker 1: the week, late week, I don't know. Don't hold me
Speaker 1: to it, but I think this is a week and
Speaker 1: if it's not this week, it'll be early next week.
Speaker 1: I also want to just note quickly the Saints, they
Speaker 1: would be on that list of the most injured teams too.
Speaker 1: Marshaw and Latimore. Where are you like is this He
Speaker 1: went out with an injury right at the start of
Speaker 1: trading camp, hasn't been seen since. They've had a bunch
Speaker 1: of other players in and out. Rashid Shaheid Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: been hurt from Waga's hurt right now, although I don't
Speaker 1: think that's serious to just a lot of key players.
Speaker 1: If you look at their starters, they're just been hurt
Speaker 1: so that that's worrisome for them. We are gonna wrap
Speaker 1: up took the only way we know how. With the
Speaker 1: World Champions Chiefs Lions. A little rematch, a little revenge
Speaker 1: game for the Chiefs from the opener last year. I
Speaker 1: watched the Chiefs starters because they left Mahomes in for
Speaker 1: what three was it three drives?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Two drives, and you know, and then Wentz came in
Speaker 1: and with some more starters, and they racked up a
Speaker 1: thirteen to nothing lead.
Speaker 4: But the never say die Lions came back.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: Let's see. Jake Bates had four field goals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to be there, dude, he's got to
Speaker 1: be their guy. The UFL story had a fifty five yarder,
Speaker 1: he did miss an extra point, but hit a bunch
Speaker 1: of field goals. Ken then Hooker is maybe the Lions
Speaker 1: QB two. Let's start on the Lions because I have
Speaker 1: less to takeaway from there. He's played well in the
Speaker 1: preseason and it's a battle between him and Nate Sudfeld.
Speaker 1: So you like to see that with the young quarterback.
Speaker 1: And then something that caught my eye this week with
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell was he said, we're dying quote, We're dying
Speaker 1: for someone to step up as a third receiver on
Speaker 1: this team.
Speaker 2: So hmm.
Speaker 1: Donovan Peoples Jones had four targets for five yards. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know who their third receiver is. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's not on the roster right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, I as much as I like Khaliff Raymond,
Speaker 3: I don't see that being the option.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean you look at this, actually look with the
Speaker 3: depth chart and Daris Fountain like it.
Speaker 4: Tom Kennedy on this death chart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I see Raymond as like a guy who's gonna be active.
Speaker 1: He's a special teamer, but.
Speaker 4: He's not gonna be the three look DPJ.
Speaker 3: Once got to Cleveland, it had a lot of hype
Speaker 3: around him, and then suddenly the Browns just dumped him
Speaker 3: and he went back to Michigan where he's from, where
Speaker 3: he went to college, all that stuff. Then nothing's really
Speaker 3: come of it. So I'm concerned in terms of depth,
Speaker 3: because if you lose a guy, you're gonna be pretty
Speaker 3: short handed all of a sudden out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they missed, They're gonna miss They missed. Josh Reynolds.
Speaker 1: Right now, who's in the Broncos, And let's mention the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. We'll get to what everyone was
Speaker 1: talking about first. But my biggest takeaway right now, is
Speaker 1: that Xavier Worthy is their wide receiver one and he's
Speaker 1: always open and Patrick Mahomes found him open early in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 6: It may have jumped, could be a free play here,
Speaker 6: Mahomes going down the field, Worthy's wide open, cave, you're
Speaker 6: Worthy get it to the Lions thirty sixth.
Speaker 2: In yard line.
Speaker 1: I just love that throw and catch because just haven't
Speaker 1: seen enough of those in the Chiefs offense the last
Speaker 1: few years. And Worthy also got behind the defense for
Speaker 1: a thirty nine yard touchdown from Wentz. And the commonality
Speaker 1: with those two places he's so open, and that first
Speaker 1: one's against zone coverage too, And I went back to
Speaker 1: watch it and he just does a little stutter step.
Speaker 1: And these guys they're Sora, they're just afraid of this dude,
Speaker 1: and he's just buy him. And I think he's their
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. Maybe not in the Tyreek Hill sense,
Speaker 1: but in the he's gonna outgain Raci Rice in Travis
Speaker 1: Kelcey in my mind if he stays healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't want to sound like too cliche,
Speaker 3: but the stutter step description that reminds me of Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying he's the same guy. But that
Speaker 3: reminds me of what helps him get open. Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's fast, he's speedy, he's hard to bring down.
Speaker 2: Let's not get carried away. Let's take a carryalls.
Speaker 4: That's what fits in this offense.
Speaker 3: That's what makes it go down the field, which they've
Speaker 3: lacked for the last couple of years and why they
Speaker 3: become a shorter and shorter passing game and why guys
Speaker 3: like MVS struggled there last year.
Speaker 4: So you got that element back in there. Watch out.
Speaker 1: Yes, And obviously he doesn't have the physicality that Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill does.
Speaker 2: He is going to have to avoid hits. He's just
Speaker 2: a smaller guy.
Speaker 1: But I said it in the draft process, he played
Speaker 1: like a one because the attension was all on him
Speaker 1: and he would get open at the at a at
Speaker 1: the college level, at the highest level, Adie Mitchell was
Speaker 1: the two. And why can't that work? So so far,
Speaker 1: so good for Xavier Worthy. Chiefs fans have to be like,
Speaker 1: really excited about him. They also have to be excited
Speaker 1: about the behind the back pass heard around the world.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Patrick Mahomes talk about, Yeah, him him
Speaker 1: throwing that around behind the back pass to Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 9: So we'll see when we get on film. But it's uh,
Speaker 9: not something that I'm going to try to major in.
Speaker 9: It might be something that just kind of happens every
Speaker 9: once in a while.
Speaker 8: Where you let it go. Where did it feel like?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 2: I knew it was low.
Speaker 9: I was just hoping Travis it got the Travis, and
Speaker 9: I knew it was kind of on target.
Speaker 8: It just was low.
Speaker 9: But like I said, it wasn't like I didn't do
Speaker 9: it to like look cool. I literally did it as
Speaker 9: I was like pissed. I was like, why didn't you
Speaker 9: run that route like that? And then it just worked out.
Speaker 4: Major in behind the oneh one taught by Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 4: I tend to trust Mahomes. He just seems like a
Speaker 4: reliable narrator.
Speaker 3: Look, we're in the preseason where you can just test
Speaker 3: out a sixty six yard field goal just because just
Speaker 3: for the hell of it, why not test out the
Speaker 3: behind the back pass and then pretend like it wasn't
Speaker 3: intentional win a way.
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe Mahomes that it has to be
Speaker 1: a very specific situation that I don't think it's like
Speaker 1: a play call that you were planning to do that
Speaker 1: before it happened, and that I think he just was
Speaker 1: in a situation where it was gonna work. And he
Speaker 1: does it at practice apparently all the time. Maybe not
Speaker 1: all the time, but he's done it before, including last
Speaker 1: week and in like a team session and it worked,
Speaker 1: so it's part of his game.
Speaker 4: I can't wait till that's like in the regular season.
Speaker 2: That'd be awesome.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about when he wants through that pass when
Speaker 3: he was basically parallel to the ground in the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl and then they added to Madden and everybody was
Speaker 3: upset about it being in Madden for two years. When's
Speaker 3: the behind the back pass going to show that the
Speaker 3: NFL street stuff. Baby, we're going back to like two
Speaker 3: thousand and four. You better watch out video gamers here.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I can't wait for the rest of this
Speaker 1: week on NFL Daily. Thank you Nick Schuck for breaking
Speaker 1: down all these games. These Sunday nights have been fun.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it again next week. It'll be more
Speaker 1: notes probably on every team than just on the preseason
Speaker 1: games because next week less starters will be playing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun week. I have Jordan Rodrigue
Speaker 1: in the studio for our next show, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about some possible player movement coming up. We've got
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond and Colleen Wolf the day after that. Mina
Speaker 1: Chimes and Kevin Clark are joining the show this week
Speaker 1: to do some over unders. It's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We are off and running. We are on football shape.
Speaker 1: Nick Chok's always in shape.
Speaker 2: But I'm got that right.
Speaker 4: See you next time.