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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are officially in football shape.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal and beyond lucky today to be joined

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Speaker 1: by my friend Nick Shook Jokie. We have fifteen preseason games,

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Speaker 1: thirty teams to talk about, and we're almost done with

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Speaker 1: the preseason.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for this one.

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Speaker 3: I actually had to remind myself that Week two is

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Speaker 3: the important week in preseason this week because it used

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Speaker 3: to be Week three back in the day when we

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Speaker 3: had four preseason games. And I'm sitting there watching some

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Speaker 3: of these games last night, going, oh man, the whole

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Week two does matter, So we do have

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Speaker 3: some good things to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Lets be real, though, it used to be every team

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Speaker 1: having the same playbook, and now it's different. Some teams

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Speaker 1: take Week one seriously. A couple teams are gonna throw

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Speaker 1: some starters out there in Week three. I think the

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Speaker 1: Titans are on that bandwagon. The Jets might be. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: but it's a grab back and half of these games,

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Speaker 1: not a lot happened, and so what we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: is go through all the preseason stuff that did matter

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hit all fifteen games, but for the games,

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Speaker 1: whereas backups playing will also hit news from those teams,

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Speaker 1: and so you can feel up to date with thirty

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Speaker 1: teams in the league. Sorry, you know, Eagles and Patriots,

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Speaker 1: you got your treatment on Friday Show. Although we have

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Speaker 1: heard that Drake Bay is practicing better since that performance,

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Speaker 1: that he's eased up, he's got confidence. So there's some

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Speaker 1: Patriots for you. You look surprised, shook.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd just like to hear a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 3: gaining confidence, especially a rookie quarterback that has drawn the

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Speaker 3: consternation of the media assemble that covers them so good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it is a trend that these rookies who

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Speaker 1: the first couple weeks of training camp seem like they're struggling.

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Speaker 1: Eighty Mitchell is another one we'll get to with the

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Speaker 1: Colts that towards the end of training camp in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the preseason, they kind of get their legs

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Speaker 1: underneath them. They get the confidence that they belong at

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Speaker 1: this level. We belong at this level.

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Speaker 2: Show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I said football shape, I just

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Speaker 1: mean it like I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 2: This is the seventh week of NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: We love everyone that has been with us every day

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Speaker 1: on this journey. And yeah, with this week of the

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Speaker 1: preseason now wrapped up, I just feel like it's time.

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Speaker 1: The season could start tomorrow and it would not be

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Speaker 1: soon enough. But let's get to some of the fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: And because it's the last item of news that happened,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Raiders and Cowboys from Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Because the news that came out on Sunday that Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minshew will be the Week one starter of the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, Nick, this is the worst game in

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Speaker 1: NFL history by a quarterback. I think that ever clinched

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Speaker 1: a starting job, Gardner Minshew like he played so bad

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the assignment of covering this game, which,

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Speaker 3: the preseason schedule makers who decided that ten pm kick

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Speaker 3: me on that one. But are sitting back watching this

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Speaker 3: game and I'm just thinking, my god, If anything, I'm

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Speaker 3: losing confidence in Gardner Minshew's viability as a starter in

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Speaker 3: this offense. I mean, I know that the Luke Getsy offense,

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Speaker 4: But there was no flow. He did not seem comfortable.

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Speaker 3: It was either a shot play, a big run by

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Speaker 3: And I was sitting there just thinking, there's no way

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Speaker 3: he's clinched this job. In fact, play them into week

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Speaker 4: And then Aidan O'Connell went out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, when I went back and watched the game and

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Speaker 1: I've talked to people who have been there, not look

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Speaker 1: and so at least Minshew you kind of know what

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Speaker 2: He didn't want it to go another week.

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Speaker 1: He wants to be sure, he wants to prep that

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Speaker 1: I said, the worst game that's ever Clinch's starting job

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Speaker 1: in the history of QB battles, Minshew under fifty percent completion.

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Speaker 1: Minshew five drives for three points in this game under

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Speaker 1: five yards per attempt, and the tape was just as

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Speaker 2: Just not pulling the trigger.

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Speaker 1: There was a couple of times I saw open receivers

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Speaker 2: It's just vibes, baby.

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Speaker 1: With Minshew, it's just kind of running around and making

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Speaker 1: But it did make me think, like, yeah, it looked

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Speaker 1: But he's at least played a lit in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's been a Week one starter before, and I think

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Speaker 1: this was just more about a O'Connell losing this job.

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Speaker 2: And you could hear it Antonia Pierce.

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Speaker 1: They might have announced that Minshew had the job on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: Push it well for both gentlemen, right, and it just

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Speaker 5: didn't and we'll look at it, will evaluate. They both

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Speaker 5: So Bob's balancing as we can get it, and we'll

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Speaker 4: Not good, it's not good.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Greg like, when you put that pressure

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Speaker 3: and nobody's really separated themselves, you're kind of setting yourself

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Speaker 4: And that's essentially what we got.

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Speaker 3: And then you add in the mix that you know,

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Speaker 4: In Vegas, and this is the product that you get.

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for Ap because you know, now he's

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Speaker 3: And you can hear the frustration and really just well,

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Speaker 3: this is what we got by default. Gardner Minshew's our starter.

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Speaker 3: We'll go check it out. But they both had an

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Speaker 1: I will always believe that they wanted Michael Pennix. It

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. O'Connell's just been frantic and he said, why

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Speaker 1: are you spending so much time on the Raiders to start?

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Speaker 1: So the Raiders aren't relevant? Hey, the Raiders are one

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Speaker 1: these teams are relevant before week one, and that's why

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Speaker 1: I love them. Like everyone's a beautiful baby that you

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Speaker 1: just don't know how the season's gonna go. A couple

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Speaker 1: other notes from this game in these two teams. Tyree Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Just looks like a guy.

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Speaker 1: Tyrie Wilson is one I could see just getting dealt

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Speaker 1: it's not working. And then for the Cowboys, they played

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Speaker 1: it still was going this poorly. But the big news

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Speaker 1: this week to me with the Cowboys was they've elevated

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Speaker 1: two rookies to the starting lineup on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett, so that's fascinating. And then Cooper Bebee,

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Speaker 1: So it does look like they've pushed these two rookies

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Speaker 2: It's just we'll see if they hit it.

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Speaker 1: But they also have a rookie edge you know, named

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Speaker 2: So the youth movement in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: cap to Trey Lancer, putting on a better show in

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Speaker 3: week two than he did in week one. Picked up

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Speaker 1: Honestly, that's great, because it felt pretty dark at the

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Speaker 1: another season. And I have to mention, I know it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter it's the preseason, but it mattered to Brandon

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Speaker 1: Aubrey that he hit a sixty six.

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Speaker 2: Yarder in this game.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to the call, because I thought this was

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Speaker 1: kind of wasted on the preseason. But gotta say the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys enjoyed the hell out of this one.

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Speaker 6: This is officially a sixty six yard field goal.

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Speaker 4: He trills, it doesn't have enough.

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Speaker 7: Sixty six Tbrey.

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Speaker 8: That's the end of the first half.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow, that is awesome.

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Speaker 1: how much they celebrated at sixty six yards. He might

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Speaker 1: be coming for Tucker's crown, not just the record, because

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Speaker 1: that would have tied it. It was a regular season

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Speaker 1: maybe the title of the best kicker in the league.

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 3: Look, that would have been good from sixty nine, maybe seventy,

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Speaker 3: maybe seventy. And it was the most electric moment of

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Speaker 3: the preseason in my opinion. I just happened to glance

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Speaker 3: whole Minshew O'Connell disaster, and I'm like, he is he

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Speaker 4: And I checked the you know the stats, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: let's good from sixty six. That's why I tweeted all

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Speaker 4: caps A kicker just made a sixty six yard field go.

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Speaker 1: The funniest moment you said Daniels has to stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: So you know, yes, that was a beautiful throw and catch,

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Speaker 1: Look, these are all players who are better at playing

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Speaker 1: of these in this game.

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Speaker 2: And that was a nice, nice ball by Daniel Jones.

437
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Speaker 1: Jones down the sideline, Neighbors, I'll want to think, grab

438
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Speaker 1: but a tiptoe to get his feet in.

439
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Speaker 7: That's a first down and that to tip your cap

440
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 7: play if you're a Texan, you just tip your cap

441
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Speaker 7: to a go.

442
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Speaker 2: I make it a great play.

443
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Speaker 8: You just sip your cat.

444
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Speaker 2: And you see why they talked about Miliite Neighbors.

445
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Speaker 1: The way they do that is just a six side,

446
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 1: like Malak Neighbors is so good.

447
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 2: He looked so good in this game.

448
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, they protected Daniel Jones in the second quarter

449
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: and he was way more aggressive than he had been

450
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, which is kind of like

451
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Speaker 1: the younger Danie Jones is the one I wanted to see.

452
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: So considering how completely awful his start was, I actually

453
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Speaker 1: thought it showed a little something that he came back

454
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Speaker 1: and spun it like a quarterback should when they're protected

455
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Speaker 1: that well against backups. But he did it, you know.

456
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the frustrating thing with Daniel Jones is that

457
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: he has those flashes and you see the arm talent

458
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Speaker 3: and you see the potential.

459
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Speaker 4: It's just not consistent. But I will say, I don't

460
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Speaker 4: know what it is about the Texans.

461
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Speaker 3: They played an extra preseason game because they played the

462
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game, and in the Hall of Fame game,

463
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: Colin Johnson was making the same catches down the sideline,

464
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Speaker 3: almost identical to what Milie Neighbors did there. So Texans,

465
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about attempts along the boundary,

466
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Speaker 3: but stop getting lost.

467
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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.

468
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Speaker 1: There are some rookies that come in and you want

469
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Speaker 1: to say, oh, the preseasons doesn't matter. It's like it

470
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Speaker 1: matters if every single practice report says Malik Neighbors is

471
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: dominating everyone across from him and dominating the target share,

472
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Speaker 1: and then you can just see him pop. You're like, Okay,

473
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Speaker 1: he pops in the same way on an NFL field

474
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Speaker 1: like you expect. I'm not saying he's gonna have fifteen

475
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Speaker 1: hundred yards, but it's not. I think he might have

476
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Speaker 1: a chance to have a Jamar Chase like rookie year,

477
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Speaker 1: just because of all the targets that he's gonna have

478
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Speaker 1: and he's so talented. His worst play, he was killing himself,

479
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: whereas he didn't come down with an acrobatic catch early

480
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 1: from Jones. That was Jones's second past But on that play,

481
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 1: like he dusted Stingley, who's so good, and even that,

482
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Speaker 1: I was like, that's impressive. This kid's gonna be awesome.

483
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the Giants, they haven't had a big time

484
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: receiver like this Ince Odell, So like if you can

485
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Speaker 3: actually slot that into their depth chart and count on that,

486
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: that's a huge step forward from a roster development standpoint,

487
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Speaker 3: even if everything around them is still pretty.

488
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Speaker 1: Flaw and watchability. So let's just wait a little bit

489
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Speaker 1: on Jones. I'm not pushing the panic button. Jalen Peachree

490
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: was everywhere in this game. It was nice to see c. J.

491
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: Stroud just play football. You just it was just all class,

492
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: all calm.

493
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Speaker 2: He was good. That was about it.

494
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: Like he got a little bit to Stephan Diggs, a

495
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: little bit to Nico Collins, like everyone got involved in

496
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: this game.

497
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Speaker 3: So I've looked at this depth chart and watching these

498
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Speaker 3: Texans games and I'm trying to figure out what their

499
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Speaker 3: receiving room is going to look like. And I look

500
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 3: at the stats and I see John Metchi had six

501
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 3: catches for sixty eight yards in a touchdown. And I've

502
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: been worried about John Metchi a little bit. I know,

503
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 3: his career got off to a rough start. Obviously, had

504
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: the cancer diagnosis and it kept him out of football

505
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 3: the first year, but it seemed like he's never really

506
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: gotten back on track, especially with his pedigree where he

507
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 3: came from in college. And if you look at their

508
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Speaker 3: top six right now, I mean you're looking at Tank

509
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 3: del Stefond Diggs, Nico Collins, Robert Woods, Noah Brown, and

510
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: then John Metchi six is like, that's right on the

511
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: bubble there. But having a game like this could go

512
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: a long way toward him, you know, getting back on

513
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Speaker 3: track and proving that he deserves a roster spot.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

515
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Speaker 1: I've heard the same thing in Houston too, because some

516
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Speaker 1: of their other younger receivers also have been, you know,

517
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: making a push. You know, maybe Robert Words or Noah

518
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: Brown aren't locks for this team, they could be a

519
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: maybe their guys. I'm going to write this down right

520
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: now because we're doing a show about potential guys that

521
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: could change, and like, those are two guys that, like

522
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: maybe another team throws a conditional six to four because

523
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: they want to keep Mechi that that was a big

524
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: game for him. You're right, he's been through a lot,

525
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: also a huge injury obviously that he was coming back

526
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: from when he got drafted before the leukemia. So it

527
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Speaker 1: is nice to see he dominated. He had an entire

528
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Speaker 1: drive all to himself. Mike McFadden, the Giants linebacker who's

529
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: a good player, got carted off in this game, so

530
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Speaker 1: that is something to watch. Let's wrap with one of

531
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Speaker 1: the games I think will be more quick before our

532
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: first break. Let's just do Ravens Falcons backups of plenty.

533
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: No Michael Pennix. They said they've seen enough for Michael Pennix. Yes,

534
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: they're just one of those teams that don't want to

535
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Speaker 1: play guys. In the preseason. The Ravens, the only starters

536
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Speaker 1: they played, and I thought this was telling, were three

537
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: of their starters on the offensive line. It looks like

538
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: they've settled in on Andrew Vorhes Daniel Foulllele, who will

539
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: be the biggest offensive lineman or guard maybe I believe

540
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport. And Roger Rosengarden and

541
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Speaker 1: they were playing and they haven't maybe stood out. And

542
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: Jeff Zizzerback, I don't know how to say his last name,

543
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: of the athletic I said, they haven't really played that

544
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: well in camps. That's just something to watch with the Ravens.

545
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: But it looks like those are your three guys.

546
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm tracking for He's just because he was a

547
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: guy that came out with a tunnel potential out of

548
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: USC and then he shredded his knee at the combine

549
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: and missed his entire rookie year. It felt like a

550
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: value pick, a long term play, kind of a David

551
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: Ajabo type play, and that hasn't really panned out either,

552
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: but I'm hoping that it does for him, just because

553
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: he had so much potential coming out of college. I

554
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: would love to see him get back to where he

555
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: was supposed to be and the ascend from there.

556
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Speaker 2: Well, it looks like.

557
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Speaker 1: He's going to be starting Week one for one of

558
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league, So he's got a chance.

559
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: You mentioned a Java.

560
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Speaker 1: I'm glad he did, devastating his injury history as a pro.

561
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: He was a pick that the Ravens had and is

562
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: coming off another season ending injury, and he played his

563
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: first snaps in this game in a long time and

564
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: reportedly looked okay, so he is on the men and

565
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: then yeah, just it's kind of settled with me. Just

566
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: how sick a safety tandem Justin Simmons and Jesse Bates

567
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: could be. I know, Justin Simmons wasn't quite himself in

568
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: a decent different system last year, and so we'll see

569
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: if he's really lost the step. But man, that's a

570
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: lot of smarts in the back end of this defense

571
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: here for.

572
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: The I gotta give a lot of credit to the

573
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: Falcons and Terry Fonto for acknowledging their weakness or being

574
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 3: aggressive in the market. You know, they go make the

575
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: Matthew Judon trade, they go sign Justin Simmons, they had

576
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: already gotten bats a year prior, and heat balled out

577
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: in his first year there. I mean, look, oftentimes fans

578
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: sit back and say we need to go get that guy,

579
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 3: even if it doesn't make sense like systematically. So good

580
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 3: on Terry for going out there and saying, look, we're

581
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: gonna accrue talent, as much talent as we can to

582
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 3: fill the needs we have.

583
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there are other teams out there. The

584
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: Colts stand out where their fans are like, why.

585
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: Didn't we get Justin Simmons? But they didn't. You know

586
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: what we gotta do.

587
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll come back and let's

588
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: hit Haleb Williams' second preseason effort.

589
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: After the break, Oh yeah, we're back in NFL daily.

590
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: Some of these shows are short, like Friday Show with Silva.

591
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: Some of these are long, but we're like packing it

592
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: with so much goodness, chalk chalkull, so much information.

593
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 7: Uh.

594
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: In this way, you didn't have to watch the preseason

595
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: if you're out.

596
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: There, at least you know, be on unless you're a

597
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: sickle like us.

598
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're no.

599
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Speaker 1: I mean there are plenty of sickos, but preseasons for

600
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: like your own team. Although I have a feeling people

601
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: were tuning in to check out Caleb Williams. That game

602
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: was on NFL Network, I believe live and he's just

603
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: must see TV.

604
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: He did it again. I know.

605
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: It was three straight three and outs to start the game,

606
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: like one or two, you know, missthrows and some bad

607
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: runs from their running game. But then he got going

608
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: and just had a bunch of sick plays in the

609
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: last two drive. Which one should we start with Eric

610
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: behind the glass?

611
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 7: How he just pails out of the pocket here and

612
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 7: this is the toughest s throw.

613
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 9: You can do, throwing your left away from.

614
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: The armside right, and he doesn't.

615
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 7: I mean that is that is in the bucket all

616
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 7: the platform away from the arm side. That's the type

617
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 7: of stuff at USC that was dropping jaws of scouts

618
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 7: across the punch.

619
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Speaker 9: And he does it effortlessly, and he's done it so

620
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 9: many times where it's just surrounded.

621
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Speaker 2: The place that is absolutely ridiculous.

622
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: Him rolling to the left, throwing up the left sideline,

623
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: contorting his body so that his shoulders are square enough

624
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: to get that ball.

625
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: But that's just a ball that you know.

626
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: I went to a game with East and sticking Stetson

627
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: Bennett this weekend and they're just playing a different sport,

628
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: no slight to them, but just to see that ball

629
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: fly out of the hand and go that far and

630
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: it was a nice catch by a duneesday, it just

631
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: makes you realize what's possible for a quarterback like Caleb Williams.

632
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually gives a lot of credence to the

633
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: whole offseason hype machine that has surrounded the Bears, because look,

634
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: I was in the camp that, you know, keep riding

635
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: with fields and trade the pick and add talent. Well

636
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: they said, no, We're going with this guy who's superior.

637
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: And I've seen enough through preseason games, like he hasn't

638
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: even played the full game, and I know he'll run

639
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 3: to the bumps that Brookies running too. But like that

640
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: kind of stuff right there is special. Like I'm not

641
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: saying he's generational. I'm gonna avoid that term, but that

642
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: type of stuff is special and can change your franchise,

643
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: so to pass I.

644
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: Will I think he did more in college the games

645
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: I watched when I went back to what like, he

646
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: did more than anyone I've seen since luck. So whatever

647
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: you want to call it, Like it's gonna translate. Now,

648
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: does it translate to being multiple pro bowler? Does it

649
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: translate to like a Philip Rivers level of achievement? Do

650
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: the translate to all time great? Like there's different levels

651
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: to it, but it's going to translate somewhere on that continuum.

652
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: It's not gonna not translate like, it's just not how

653
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: long and how much can he rely on the improv

654
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: because he is holding the ball a long time? Is

655
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: he made some quicker decisions. But look, that was a

656
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: question people were asking about Aaron Rodgers through like the

657
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: first six or seven years of his careers, while he

658
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: was winning MVPs and having some ups and downs actually

659
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: and having some downstretches too, So there are different ways

660
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: to do it. Let's look at a play where Adunze

661
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: did not keep his feet in bounds. But this was

662
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: actually my favorite play by Caleb of the game.

663
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: It was close to being a touchdown.

664
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 9: Big run by Purport. Now the big pass seven Williams run.

665
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: To improve with those speed keep the play, al Williams

666
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: told Duns. But it's led incomplete.

667
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, Greg, Greg, I mean along the sideline,

668
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: finds a guy open in the back corner the end.

669
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 4: Zoneyees his foot was.

670
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: Out of bounds, But wow, that and that's our talent

671
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: right there, just ripping it down the sideline through the traffic.

672
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: Beautiful stuff.

673
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy because those are plays that

674
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Mahomes pulls off. Just not many people in the history

675
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: of the game have made plays like that and just

676
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: the absolute and utter confidence. And you saw this in

677
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: the college you weren't sure how and we'll see in

678
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: regular season play how much it translates. Like he is

679
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: not even worried about the first guy coming through tackling him.

680
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: He's dancing with these pass rushers three feet in front

681
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: of him and thinking what am I gonna do? Not

682
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: even thinking, oh, this guy could actually sack me. He's

683
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: just making them look bad. And then make a throw

684
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: like that and yeah, two plays later. If you know,

685
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: if you watch highlights, you would have seen the ridiculous

686
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: scramble touchdown that he had. So it's just play after play.

687
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: It's exciting. I'm not crowning him. I don't know what

688
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: is with Like Twitter, people are like not what, like.

689
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: Don't enjoy this?

690
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams like thing, Just enjoy it's fun. It's football.

691
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Like this is how I felt watching Patrick Mahomes start play,

692
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is going to be great

693
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years.

694
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: I was right, yeah, and it's panned out now I'm

695
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: not going to be a bucket of cold water.

696
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: But you did make a good note there that he

697
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: does hold on the ball.

698
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: A little long, and I do worry about what that's

699
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: going to look like when the pressure increases, because I

700
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: don't think this line's going to hold up quite as

701
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: well in a regular season environment as it has against

702
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: a vanilla defense in the preseason. He does it's not

703
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: that he's processing slow, but the hitching like he's doing

704
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: a lot of pocket hitching, and I'm worried about what

705
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: that's going to do. But if he can evade and

706
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: extend plays like that, we're thinking not only Patrick Mahomes.

707
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm thinking a little bit of early Russell Wilson and

708
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: the way that he used to extend plays.

709
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Sure, I like that, And yeah, I'm not expecting it

710
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: all to be easy. This was against the Bengals backups.

711
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: It took a while for their starting group to get going,

712
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: so that that's all worth noting. But the plays are

713
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: the plays, and there's only so many people that I've

714
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: ever seen that could make those plays. So you can

715
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: see it with your eyes, it doesn't matter who's it's against.

716
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon was back in this game, just very active

717
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Keep an eye, you know, with all

718
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: these backups in the game for the Bengals, there wasn't

719
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: a lot to take out of it, but keep an

720
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: eye on Jamar Chase's situation. It's just been sitting around

721
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: like it's about time. This is actually the week that

722
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's about time to fix that.

723
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: So we'll see Yoshivash I've mentioned on the show many

724
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: times under you he's really locked in as their wide

725
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: receiver three. And then with a Marius Mims' injury, the

726
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: spotlights on Trent Brown. And Trent Brown just has not

727
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: been a reliable player throughout his career and just from

728
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: what we've heard, he has not been on the field

729
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: at Bengals training camp. He finally got back on then

730
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: had another injury, and it's just if it's a lot

731
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: is going to be riding on Trent Brown and a

732
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: Marius Mims to stay healthy. We'll see if they can.

733
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to the rams in Chargers of the game.

734
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: I went to Nick Shook. I got to start with

735
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: like how the game presentation started. I went, I enjoyed

736
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the walker and I had fun. He really likes he

737
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: still loves it even though it's the preseason, and like

738
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: thirty minute, maybe fifteen minutes before the team was going

739
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: to come out. They had already done their warm ups,

740
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: but they were going to come out for you know,

741
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: the real warm ups.

742
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: The last time, they were like.

743
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: About fifteen minutes till Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers come out,

744
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, well that's different. I've never

745
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: heard a team kind of announced that way. But maybe

746
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: it's just the PA guy just you know, kind of

747
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: having some fun. It's the first game. And then when

748
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: they came out onto the field, when they introduced them,

749
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: they welcomed them as Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers, Like,

750
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why that really got me. It was

751
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: like Alvin and the Chipmunks, like I'm the I'm the

752
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: like the lead singer of the band. Jim Harbaugh and

753
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Like that's how big a deal is. And

754
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: I kind of liked how weird it is cut to

755
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: immediately on the big screen at sofar it's a letter

756
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: from Jim Harbaugh to all his players about being in

757
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: the locker room and what it means to be a

758
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: Charger in This is kind of like a pump up

759
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: speech that that sometimes they'll play in games like this,

760
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: but usually it's not the head coach of the team.

761
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: And it's this long letter written and read by Jim Harbaugh,

762
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking, like, this is weird. This is

763
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: a lot. This is like the culture personality. But I'm

764
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: also kind of into it because it's Jim Harbaugh and

765
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: it's different, but I like it.

766
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: I just think about the Temptations movie.

767
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: Anybody come to see you otis They're all here to

768
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: see Jim Harbaugh and him wearing cleats on the field

769
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: before games, like yes, and they need they needed it though,

770
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: like they had no identity prior, they didn't and they

771
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: needed a change.

772
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: And if they're gonna go all in night, we'll see

773
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: what happened.

774
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's their pr like them trying to push the

775
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: Harbaugh thing, but I tend to think because I just

776
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: went like, how did this all happen? I tend to

777
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: think it if I had to just guess, and it's

778
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: just a guess that Jim Harbaugh was like I want

779
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I want it to be said Jim Harbaugh and the

780
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: Chargers when they call.

781
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: Me very two thousand and one Super Bowl, I want

782
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: to announced as a team. Rams it's like the.

783
00:34:59,239 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Opposite of that.

784
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I love it.

785
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: There was they did show there wasn't a ton in

786
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: this game. They played their starters, which doesn't include Justin

787
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Herbert right now. They set a couple guys that are

788
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: banged up, but pretty much played their starts, very creative

789
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: with their run game and Joe Alt like you know,

790
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: double team blocks and the power and the duo and

791
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: he's on the move and.

792
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: They stuck to it. Easton Stick was was bad. He

793
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: is not it.

794
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Anytime there was anything positive going, he just threw a

795
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: hope ball, or he fumbled a snap on the goal

796
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: line or through a bad interception. And I just I

797
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't I don't know how you

798
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: can go to Week one with him as your starter

799
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert doesn't get back. Justin Harber watching him

800
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: during pregame warm ups, though no Limp throwing the ball around.

801
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: It was him, Harbaugh and another one of the quarterbacks

802
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: who were kind of warming up the receivers. Harbor's arm

803
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: is not as strong as what it used to be,

804
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: like a lot more zip on the NFL quarterbacks, but

805
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: it was decent, much better than mine would be.

806
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: But it was hanging up there a little.

807
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: I think it is tell that they went and signed

808
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: Louis Prez, former UFL and XFL hero. He didn't look

809
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: really great, didn't look good, but the fact that they

810
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: went and grabbed him tells me that they realize, oh,

811
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: this might be bad behind Justin.

812
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: We better hope Justin stays healthy.

813
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a team to watch.

814
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: I think at the quarterback position in the next week.

815
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Just who could shake loose? I don't know, Tyler Huntley

816
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: maybe from Cleveland. Yeah, like that would be better. Like

817
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: there's just some there's some guys out there that would

818
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: be better than what they have. They were playing DJ

819
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: Shark and Quintin Johnston pretty late into the third quarter

820
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: of this game. You wanted to read into that. That

821
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting to me, you know, with Louis Prez,

822
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, playing after Brandon Rice and Darius Davis.

823
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: Just that's a weird situation.

824
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: And then I think it hasn't gotten a lot of

825
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: attention that Matthew Stafford has a hamstring injury and just

826
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: continues to miss practice and is going to continue to

827
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: miss practice. Sean mcva says he'll be fine for Week one,

828
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: but a little concerned about my thirty six year old

829
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: quarterback with a soft tissue injury rams fans.

830
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'd be concerned. Hamstrings can be tricky

831
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: because they don't heal quickly. They can be nagging. You

832
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: rush back too soon, you're gonna get a bigger issue.

833
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: And he's not young, so fair valid, but I'm not

834
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: going to panic until it starts to limit him on

835
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: the field. And then at that point, No, they put

836
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: their announcers. They have like one of the best announcing

837
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: teams with Mina Chimes and Andrew Siciliano, our friend.

838
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: Both of them are our friends.

839
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: Of course, they're both so good, and Andrew Whitworth, and

840
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: then they have Sean mcvagh in the booth during the game.

841
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: Did you catch any of that? I did not.

842
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: I actually don't want to go back and watch it,

843
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: but I was trying to catch up with all these games.

844
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: I have not seen that.

845
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was in the same boat.

846
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: But I did see Aubrey Pleasant on the sideline fire

847
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: and his team up really embracing being the head coach

848
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: for a day.

849
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: It was nice.

850
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 9: I like that.

851
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: I like what he did putting a spotlight on Aubrey Pleasant,

852
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: which if you hear people around the league like kind

853
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: of talk about young rising talents. He has such a

854
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: great reputation. Jordan Whittington I think is a real receiver.

855
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Now they have really good depth. He has looked like

856
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: their best offensive player through two weeks of the preseason

857
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: for the Rams. All right, let's move on to your Browns.

858
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: They played the Vikings. Let's go with the biggest news

859
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: between these two teams that have happened since we started,

860
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: which is a Stephan Gilmore is on the Vikings. So

861
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: that was the team that to me made all the

862
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: sense in the world. The Panthers, I think wanted him.

863
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: They needed they needed a cornerback. I think Gilmore chose

864
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: the team that's better, and he chose a defensive coordinator

865
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: he knows well.

866
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: And Brian Flores.

867
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

868
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: You know, look, we saw two veterans get signed this week, right,

869
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: the other one being Justin Simmons. It kind of reaks

870
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: of the old like Michael Strahan sitting at a practice thing,

871
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: but sitting at a training camp.

872
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: Well that is it because it's this portion too, because

873
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: training camp officially ended like this week. Now it just

874
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: goes into regular season prep.

875
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: Mode, right, so you can just step on a field

876
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: and be like, all right, I'm here I'm ready to

877
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: prepare for the season. I didn't need camp and I'm

878
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: gonna ball out. It's a nice reinforcement for them, a

879
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: team that on paper like is a bit in flux,

880
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: but could use some help at that position. So I

881
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: like the signing for them. It's kind of a no brainer.

882
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been really injured, and I think they needed

883
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: a cornerback before they were injured, and then they got injured.

884
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: I think that's a big move for them.

885
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: I know that playoff game is in everyone's mind, at

886
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: least Packers fans. When I threw out the possibility of

887
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: Gilmore joining the Packers at one point, Yeah, he got

888
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: smoked a few times in the it was the end

889
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: of a long season, and he's a veteran. He played

890
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: really well for the Cowboys for most of the last year.

891
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

892
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: I'm also the speaking of corners with the Vikings. They

893
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: made that trade and a Sean Wright from Dallas. Andrew

894
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: Booth goes to Dallas. Andrew Booth had a hell of

895
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: a game in that Raiders game. By the way, I

896
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: know I didn't touch on it.

897
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: Earlier for the Cowboys.

898
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: Fantastic, Yes, a great open field tackler. Well, that's where the.

899
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: Preseason, that's not what he's known for either, by the way,

900
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: I know in the preseason, that's what it's for. Like that,

901
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: dude was not a lot to make that team, I

902
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: think when that trade was happened. But a game like that,

903
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: then you make the team. Yeah, and that's what the

904
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: preseasons for. The Browns are in a bit of a

905
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: crisis with their tackles. YEP, I didn't realize Jedrick Wills.

906
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: I knew he started camp on the pup list, but

907
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: he's still there, and then his backup got hurt, and

908
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: then his backup's backup got hurt, and they're starting right

909
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: tackle Jock Conklin is still on an injury list. So

910
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: that's that's count of one. That's four tackles that are hurt.

911
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: That's not good.

912
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: I would expect them to make an addition if any

913
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: of those are serious. Obviously if Dwan Jones on the

914
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: right side, so that's kind of a fail safe for

915
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: them on that side. But on the left side, Jed

916
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: Wills and you and I have talked about this, but

917
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: Jed Wills is a guy who has never lived up

918
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: to his first round billing. But still not having him

919
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: is concerning, and then losing his backups is even more concerning.

920
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never been a hichemidentity guy, but I've

921
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: also never really been a James Hudson guy. But I

922
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 3: would like to have either of them on the field

923
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: as opposed to not. So we'll see.

924
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: So they Hudson was a backup, and then his backup

925
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: also got hurt, we'll see, ye. Just a team that's

926
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: been really injured in general, like Jerry Judy's barely practice

927
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: for this team, Newsome a couple other starters. On the

928
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: pup listic, they're quietly top five most injured teams in

929
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: the league without a doubt, maybe top three.

930
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: They lost center Luke Whippler in the game against the

931
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: Packers and had to go trade for to bring Nick

932
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: Harris back from Seattle, a guy that they had drafted

933
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: who suffered his own injury in preseason a few years ago.

934
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 4: So they've made moves already. They probably gon have to

935
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 4: make more that I.

936
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: Think they've had a bad camp in general just because

937
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: of the injuries. That's the worst thing that can happen.

938
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: And then some offield stuff. We hadn't addressed this on

939
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: the on the show. But Michael Hall, their second round

940
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: pick defensive lineman, arrested for a misdemeanor domestic violence charge.

941
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: He continued practicing with the team and actually played in

942
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: this game, so they are continuing to employ him and

943
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: play them. And they said they're gonna wait for the

944
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: legal process to run its course with that. But that's

945
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: just another thing for the Browns and a decision that

946
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have to make. Some players who

947
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: are lower on the depth chart, they have a domestic

948
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: violence charge and there was you know, some of the

949
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: details that came out on the police report. They get

950
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: cut and it didn't happen in this case. All right,

951
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: let's move to Titans Seahawks, another backups a plenty game.

952
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: I know you watch some of it, shuck, So what

953
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: do you got for me? What was interesting from Titans Seahawks.

954
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: Slinging Sammy Halle Baby Okay, okay. We back on the

955
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: Around the NFL podcast about a year ago. At this time,

956
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: I was flabbergasted that Ron Rivera was going to proceed

957
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: with Sam Hall as the starting quarterback going to twenty

958
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: twenty three, And there were glimpses at times where I

959
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: was like I see why he went with them and

960
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: ultimately the wheels fell off.

961
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: We know what happened in Washington.

962
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: Well, he seems to have taken a small step forward

963
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: with Seattle or he just doesn't care in his letting

964
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: it rip, because.

965
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 4: He had a heck of a game in Nashville.

966
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: He's throwing passes on the scene down the sideline, dropping

967
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: dimes all over the issue.

968
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: He lets it rip, that's for sure.

969
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: But even navigating the pocket, he threw a beautiful touchdown

970
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 3: pass eastob Winston. I mean, dropped it in the bucket.

971
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: You couldn't you couldn't run it up there and put

972
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: it in the guy's hand better than he placed it. Overall,

973
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: just a great game for him, and it excites me

974
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: to have, you know, Sam Howe getting an opportunity to

975
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: get those reps while Gino Smith is not playing during

976
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: the preseason. Not saying every want to see them go

977
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 3: to him, but you know, for somebody who has already

978
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: been through a lot in his short career, it was cool.

979
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: It was nice to see and by all accounts, really

980
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: struggled to start training camp that Yeah, the idea that

981
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: there was going to be a competition was laughable because

982
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: Gino came out hot and there wasn't going to be

983
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: a competition anyways, and he Howell was struggling, So that's

984
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: good to hear. And I did go back because I

985
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: wanted to find what happened during this week because they

986
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: had joint practices and Titans and Seahawks played all their

987
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: starters obviously in those joint practices, and that's where they

988
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: got their work.

989
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: Just a couple of little notes there.

990
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Michael Sean Dugar, who does a really great job with

991
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: the Athletic has noticed that like the Geno JSN, you know,

992
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigwab, just the chemistry he just believes

993
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: has been off the charts, the anticipation, the timing, the

994
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: post practice, you know, kudos that Gino is giving to JSN,

995
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: just something to watch their Lockett getting a little older. Also,

996
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: there's been reports there just really making a point to

997
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: like throw it to DK even when sometimes the coverage

998
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: dictates not to, like he can still make those catches in.

999
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: DK is reportedly having a good camp and so you

1000
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: just might see a little more of the target share

1001
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 1: I think for those two guys, and maybe a little

1002
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: less of Tyler Lockett, who's getting a little older and

1003
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract.

1004
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: But either way, that's a good problem to have.

1005
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: Like they they are deep at wide receiver, and I

1006
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: think they were lighting up the Titans because the Titans

1007
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: never have their cornerbacks practice. Lagerius sneed like never practices,

1008
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: just like when he was in Kansas City because of

1009
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: his knee, and Shadobi a Wuzi has still been out

1010
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: with this calf injury, so that they are a little

1011
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: short handed in the secondary.

1012
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious in this depth chart. I would love

1013
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: to see if Jake Bobo makes this team.

1014
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think he's locked in at four,

1015
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: four or five.

1016
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: And that's a fun group. If you add him in

1017
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: that mix, that's a really fun group for Gino to

1018
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: throw too.

1019
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: He might have a real you know, if he's four,

1020
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: he's only going to play if someone's hurt. But it

1021
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise that he'll have a real chance to have

1022
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: a real role, like maybe replacing Locket next year. I mean,

1023
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: that's a way to save some money if you if

1024
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: you think a guy like that can can step up. Also,

1025
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: just little housekeeping note, arden Key, the pass rusher for

1026
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: the Titans six game deed suspension was overturned. You don't

1027
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: see that too often. No, you know, the guys always

1028
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: say I didn't do it. Here's why, here's how. In

1029
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: this case, the league found the evidence compelling. According to

1030
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: ESPN reported it. They actually weren't the first to report it,

1031
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: though Jeffrey Simmons, the Titans defensive lineman, put it out

1032
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: there first, but ESPN confirmed it, and good news for

1033
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: the Titans there.

1034
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: All right, Let's let's talk.

1035
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: One of the games that I think was most interesting,

1036
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: Steelers Bills. Let's talk Justin Fields. Okay, Justin Fields replaced

1037
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who really struggled in this game.

1038
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: And I get it.

1039
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm driving that Justin Fields should start bandwagon here.

1040
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: But I gotta say I went to watch this game

1041
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: after seeing everyone say that Nick, and I expected like

1042
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: a good fields game, and I didn't see it. I

1043
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: did have what you had, some good fields and some

1044
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: bad field that's every field.

1045
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: Let's start with the good fields.

1046
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Let's listen to and watch one of the nice plays

1047
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: from Justin Fields in this game.

1048
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 8: Seven instead of a thirty two fields, some pressure up

1049
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 8: there then trying to get away from me and he

1050
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 8: does We're moving to his left throwing manpu reception along

1051
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 8: the sidelines.

1052
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: That is a sick play. He's about to get tackled.

1053
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: He gets out of it just because he's so strong,

1054
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: and then almost Caleb Williams like throws to the left

1055
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: with a lot of heat on a sideline route and

1056
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: gets it to his receivers. And yes, there were a

1057
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: few plays like that. But I saw you shaking your head,

1058
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, so I think you're on the same page

1059
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: as me that it's still he had a chance. When

1060
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson went out of that game to really say

1061
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: this is my job, I don't think he quite went

1062
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: that far.

1063
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that play specifically, when I watched that live,

1064
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: I immediately got in the slack and let the guys in

1065
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: the desk know I just saw the dumbest and most

1066
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: thrilling play of the preseason, which is justin Field's pulling

1067
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: his best Eli Manning impression to break a sack and

1068
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: then get away and throw almost directly into coverage. It

1069
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: gets tipped and he gets caught in the sideline. But

1070
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: like I saw graphics being shared on social media after

1071
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: the game comparing his and Russell Wilson's stats and then

1072
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: at the bottom was like Steeler's mustard, just three points,

1073
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 3: and that really tells you the story of what happened

1074
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: in this game. I know it's a preseason game, but

1075
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: it was a lot of what we saw in Chicago,

1076
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: and it was justin holding on the ball too long,

1077
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 3: pulling his eyes down too quickly, getting panicked, acting frantically

1078
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: in the pocket, trying to make the best out of nothing,

1079
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: and not really trusting his progressions, and it became pretty

1080
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: frustrating because he did miss an open touchdown throw at

1081
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: one point.

1082
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: He's still a supreme athlete.

1083
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: He still can extend plays and make plays with his legs,

1084
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: which is a big part of his production in this game.

1085
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: But it's not consistent.

1086
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: It's not reliable enough to think that this guy can

1087
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: go out there and do that on a weekly basis.

1088
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: It's more of the lightning in a bottle style of

1089
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: football that you never build your team around. And I

1090
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 3: was hoping that coming into Atlanta, or not coming into Pittsburgh,

1091
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: excuse me, after being in Chicago, that he would be

1092
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: able to kind of take a next step with Arthur

1093
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 3: Smith as a ZOCI and instead I think it's it

1094
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 3: might be a bad fit, and I'm worried about long

1095
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: term how it's going to play out.

1096
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's come down. We're in the pre sale, right.

1097
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know.

1098
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: But on Russ's side, he doesn't have he didn't have

1099
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 3: any time to throw in that game. So it wasn't

1100
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: a good sample size for him either, because that line

1101
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: doesn't look very good.

1102
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: No, although it protected fields, I thought fine because once

1103
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: you hit the right point there, which is he was

1104
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: running from clean pockets some of his best plays. And

1105
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: I get it that he is exciting and he is

1106
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: the better option I think for a bad offense. And

1107
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: I also just think the offense itself looks like a

1108
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: total mess, and so the quarterbacks are part of it,

1109
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: but the protection like the number two receivers Van Jefferson

1110
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren left this game with a hamstring injury.

1111
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: He might miss Week one. That's really a bummer.

1112
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: He you know, he's I would say, if he's not

1113
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: their best skill posession player, he's their second best behind

1114
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: George Pickens.

1115
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: Like that's a huge problem for them.

1116
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: But you know, he left clean pockets and so even

1117
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: his some of his best scrambles were plays that when

1118
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: you watch the All twenty two, he had open receivers. Yeah,

1119
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: and he didn't pull the trigger and that was well.

1120
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: I think was similar between him and Russell Wilson, that

1121
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: neither one of them were pulling the trigger. The difference

1122
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: was Russell Wilson just had very little protection. But the

1123
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: times that he did, he didn't look good. Before we

1124
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: move on from fields, we showed the good fields. I

1125
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: am going to show kind of my example of the

1126
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: bad field, and.

1127
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 8: It is an option playing Peels has nowhere to go,

1128
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 8: and I think Buffalo knew it was coming and he's

1129
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 8: trapped and of the go for a significant loss and

1130
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 8: a change of possession. Joe M. Dreesen, the kid out

1131
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 8: of Buffalo, I'm drafted free agent number forty four, led

1132
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 8: the way. But nobody was fooled on that play.

1133
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: So it's six to three at that point.

1134
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: Bill's late in the third and they call a read

1135
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: option and doesn't.

1136
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: Feel maybe the wrong read.

1137
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: It was a touchdown if he just handed the ball off,

1138
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: and that that had just happened a couple of times.

1139
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: They wanted that score so desperately. I don't know if

1140
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: you watched to the very end, but they just kept

1141
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down in the red zone.

1142
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: They got there a couple times, and whether it was dropbacks,

1143
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: whether it was him running like he was just sort

1144
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: of freezing, like they wanted to leave with something positive

1145
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: at the end. That wasn't even the last time that

1146
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: he got close and they didn't get it. And I

1147
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: think part of the reason Tomlin maybe wanted it because

1148
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: maybe he wanted it feels to just go win this job,

1149
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: do so than positive because of the stink on the

1150
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: field after the Russell Wilson start. I mean, I get

1151
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line was so bad PROGERC. Jones could be

1152
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: a real problem with him. He got absolutely roasted a

1153
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: couple times at right tackle, so that hurt Russell Wilson,

1154
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: but a couple times he did have a chance. Nick

1155
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: I thought in this game when you slow it down,

1156
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: he just wouldn't let go of the ball, no anticipation

1157
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: on his throws, just waiting to see a guy open.

1158
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: And then he holds it on these two third and

1159
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: longs and ends up just dumping it down, which is

1160
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: not the old Russell Wilson, just playing it almost Sean

1161
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Payton like just overly safe just dumping it down and

1162
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: not really going for it.

1163
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only time he ever got the ball out,

1164
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: even relatively on time, was when he dumped it down

1165
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: and the arm's still there and everything.

1166
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: But like, it's just he doesn't look comfortable.

1167
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: Another thing I have an issue with, and I know

1168
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 3: Troy Fatana not being able to play had a role

1169
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: in this, but Roger Jones is in his second year

1170
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: in the NFL and he's playing on the left side,

1171
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 3: and then suddenly they're playing him on the right side.

1172
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if you remember the old Tristan

1173
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: Worst quote, but playing right tack as opposed to playing

1174
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 3: left tackles like trying to wipe your butt with the

1175
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: opposite hand. Like it's a little foreign and awkward, and yeah,

1176
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: that's not fair to do to a young tackle. I

1177
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 3: felt bad for him as soon as I saw him

1178
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: at right tackle to start the game, because I'm like,

1179
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: this is not gonna go and Dan Moore has been

1180
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 3: graded poorly by PFF for years, so like they're not

1181
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: going to be in a good situation against that Bill's defense.

1182
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to write about how the Bill's defense looks

1183
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: so good, and then I'm thinking that's the starters against

1184
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: an offensive line that's kind of passwork and doesn't look

1185
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: very good. So I'm gonna, you know, pump the brakes

1186
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: on that. It's just it wasn't a good situation for

1187
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: Russell to show off anything because he didn't have time

1188
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: to throw. But then going back to fields too real

1189
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: quick on that play that we just showed. This was

1190
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: the play that made me worried because this is a

1191
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: play that tells me this is a quarterback who's trying

1192
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: to go win a game or score on his own

1193
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: and not actually following the structure of the offense.

1194
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: It's a reason I've seen in the field, so he

1195
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: never committed to see the field as a runner. Yeah,

1196
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: and the passer because there were the other fourth down

1197
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: play that they got stopped. He had time and and

1198
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: just froze a little bit. So they're just not comfortable

1199
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: right now in Pittsburgh. No, it doesn't look like they're

1200
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: getting Brandon at Yuk by the way, you know, it

1201
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: just I think it's disappointing. They also lost their center,

1202
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: one of the Herberg brothers. I can't I don't know

1203
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: which Herberg is, which there's two Herbigs. It's Nate and Nick.

1204
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: They're both on the Steelers. One's a pass rusher. One

1205
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: was the starting center, but it sounds like he had

1206
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: a pretty serious innate the linebacker, and they drafted Kid

1207
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Frazier to kind of probably take that job anyways, and

1208
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: now he will be starting. So they're gonna be young.

1209
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: We'll see, maybe they'll they'll get it all together. For

1210
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: the Bills, they didn't play their starters too long in

1211
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: this game, right, They had Mitchell Trubisky, they sat Josh Allen,

1212
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: but they played a lot of the other starters. Trubisky

1213
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: struggled and got hurt in the game, so that's a

1214
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: bad combination.

1215
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trubisky looked bad.

1216
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: He actually was greeted by a Steelers fans with the

1217
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: chorus of boosts when they announced his name as the

1218
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: quarterback for them.

1219
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: It was like a backup that was fine.

1220
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: He was that he was bad enough to get replaced

1221
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: by Mason Rudolph, and they realized how bad he was

1222
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: because Mason suddenly helped led them to win lay Down

1223
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 3: down the stretch of the season. The defensively, the Bills

1224
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 3: did play a decent amount of starters for a little

1225
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: bit of time, but offensively, it wasn't much. The only

1226
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 3: bright spot in this game was Ray Davis. Ray Davis

1227
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: is a dog.

1228
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 4: Greg. We talked about this last week.

1229
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, a nice little late round handcuff or just pick

1230
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: up if you're if you're not into drafting your running

1231
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: backs early, just take a shot on Reda.

1232
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: It's like what you said West used to say preseason.

1233
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: You can always tell when running backs are legit or not.

1234
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: Ray Davis is legit. Keep an eye on him.

1235
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. I read Joe Basalia from

1236
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: the Athletics his roster breakdown. Lyle Collins might not make

1237
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: this team for the Bills, just just a name out

1238
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: there that his career has bit on the downslope. But

1239
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: I would have expected him to make this Bills team.

1240
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: And yeah, Greg Russeau, who was the guy who was

1241
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: abusing Proderc. Jones, you know, could be in line for

1242
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: a breakout season. He's been a steadily rising good player.

1243
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: But reports are that he's been dominant at camp and

1244
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: so I'm looking to him. Jags and Bucks played another

1245
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: backups game. Mac Jones looks like he locked up the

1246
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: backup job, which kind of was up for grabs because

1247
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: he reportedly hasn't looked that good in training camp with CJ. Bethard,

1248
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: but he played pretty well in this game and Bethard

1249
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: didn't and Bethard got hurt, so that pretty much ended

1250
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: that tank. Bigsby's a second year running back who struggled

1251
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: as a rookie, who's had some nice preseason moments.

1252
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna go to the.

1253
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: Joint practices and the reports out of that from Pewter

1254
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: Report and then John Shipley on SA dot com, who

1255
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, everyone just said Brian Thomas had a really

1256
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: strong joint practice showing just people just could not cover him.

1257
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: And so the combination of Brian Thomas going deep and

1258
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: then Gave Davis actually being used kind of on intermediate

1259
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: routes has borne some fruit in the last week or

1260
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: two or so at Jaguars camp.

1261
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: I think that's Gabe Davis's great strength when he was

1262
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: finding success in Buffalo, he was doing that. It wasn't

1263
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: him trying to stretch. So I think it's a good

1264
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: complimentary duo there. Greig mac Jones, we know what mac

1265
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: Jones is, and the duality of a mac Jones football

1266
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: game is still wildly entertaining.

1267
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: Both good and bad reasons.

1268
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: He's stumbling over himself in the pocket, but then he

1269
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: just rips a dime de Parker Washington, who, by the way,

1270
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: had a really good game, and I love the way

1271
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: that he's been playing this preseason and carving out a

1272
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: role for himself on this roster as well, because they

1273
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: got some talent at receiver. But my god, it's just

1274
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: it was so fun to watch him play and actually

1275
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: just having fun with football. Again, he's not in New

1276
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: England anymore. He doesn't have the weight of a franchise

1277
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: on his shoulders. He can just go play football and

1278
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: enjoy it. So it was really nice to watch.

1279
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the ultimate case. And I think Daniel

1280
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: Jones is another good one.

1281
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: To me.

1282
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: The number one test of are you an NFL quarterback

1283
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: is can you deliver all the time if you're protected,

1284
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: because basically all of them can. If you protect an

1285
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, like they're gonna be pretty good. Now they'll

1286
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: just be like Dalton Scale, like right at the line good.

1287
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: Maybe if there are a Mac Jones or Daniel Jones

1288
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: type of guy, but like, if you protect Mac Jones,

1289
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: he's actually he's gonna play well and that's Those are

1290
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: the guys that have long careers and can be at

1291
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: least in the league for a long time.

1292
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: And mac Jones can do that.

1293
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: Now if you give him pressure, all bets are off

1294
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: and watch out like he also might lose his mind

1295
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. The Buccaneers are going to release Randy Gregory.

1296
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: That was weird, that entire saga. I don't know what happened.

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00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: They reportedly don't know what happened either, why he never

1298
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: showed up.

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00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: I've heard some whispers that there's a.

1300
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: Team or two that want to bring him in, and

1301
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: maybe he knows that a team you'd rather go to.

1302
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: And so we'll see. Rookie Chris Braswell reportedly had four

1303
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: sacks in a joint practice and they're counting on him

1304
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: to make some noise, and I think they're going to

1305
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: start him at this point. And they're probably also going

1306
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: to start Tyke Smith at nickelback, so a little bit

1307
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: of a youth movement. So those are two players to

1308
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: watch for the Bucks. We're going to take one more break.

1309
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: We still have a few more games to get through. Nick,

1310
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: we have one more starting quarterback decided.

1311
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: On Sunday night. I bet you can figure out who

1312
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: it was.

1313
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily during the break, I learned our

1314
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: hard working producer Eric has a baby in his arms

1315
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: while he's producing. This is the type of extra effort

1316
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: that helps you make a team. Eric Roberts, I mean,

1317
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, let's go. I mean, we're putting this show

1318
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: out on Sunday nights. We're trying to be unique by

1319
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: doing this even in the preseason, almost treating it like

1320
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: a regular season, because look, we have live football.

1321
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: We've been waiting for it all off season.

1322
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: And these questions that we had Nick back in May

1323
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: and June, and maybe we could have guessed the answer,

1324
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: who is the Denver's starting quarterback? We probably would have

1325
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: guessed it right back in June, but we didn't actually

1326
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: know for sure until Sunday night, August eighteenth. Who is

1327
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: our starting quarterback of the Denver Broncos, Nick bo Nicks.

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 4: Here we go. He's bawling, baby. He's doing everything I

1329
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: thought he would do coming out of Oregon.

1330
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 3: He had another really nice game on Sunday night and

1331
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: kind of confirmed not that's did almost terrible, but just

1332
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 3: kind of confirmed that he's ready for the job and

1333
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna fit.

1334
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: What Sean Payton.

1335
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: Wants and perhaps will support Denver's decision to spend a

1336
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: first round pick on him. We'll see, but good start

1337
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: for him.

1338
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: Now we're taping this at a dangerous moment here. I

1339
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: don't actually know that they're naming him the starting quarterback.

1340
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm just assuming it because that's where it was headed.

1341
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: It was set up that way. He started this game.

1342
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know this for sure, but I bet

1343
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: Sean Payton did everything possible. Just break out the good stuff.

1344
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: Make sure bo Nicks is comfortable at he had the starters.

1345
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: He's going against the Packers backups. The Packers sat like

1346
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: thirty guys and call all the best plays. Not that

1347
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: you shouldn't try to do that, but maybe game plan

1348
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: just like a little bit more in the preseason that

1349
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: you wouldn't to make your rookie play well. Give him

1350
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: confidence because he's gonna be your guy. And he delivered

1351
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: eight for nine eighty yards, touchdown, ten points in his

1352
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: two drives and then they just took him out. Would

1353
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: have been two touchdowns, but the first touchdown throw he

1354
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: had that he was about a yard past the line

1355
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. It's actually a pretty impressive improv improvisational play

1356
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: where he just lost track of just where he was

1357
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: on the field.

1358
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: So you know that was a mistake.

1359
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: But otherwise he got out of pressure and they diced

1360
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: them up. I mean, you can say it's against the backups,

1361
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: but a lot of times we don't see starters dice

1362
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: up the backups.

1363
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: They diced up the backups.

1364
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is the right step for a

1365
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 3: Sean Payton tenure that has been.

1366
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 4: Fraught with issues since he arrived.

1367
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: He showed up to a team that he did not

1368
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: but the quarterback that he didn't want, that he didn't choose,

1369
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: and tried to make the best of it and then

1370
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 3: realized this was not a work let's maybe him down

1371
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: the stretch.

1372
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: No, well, also letting everyone know this was not his guy.

1373
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going to bench him because of money,

1374
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: and it's going to cause a whole thing.

1375
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 4: And now they're on the you know, clear Skys and.

1376
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: New beginnings with mister bo Nicks, who actually you got

1377
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: to feel good for the kid because he started his

1378
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: career at Auburn and then ended up transferring to Oregon

1379
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 3: and had all this playtime in college to really develop

1380
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: because he never really developed at Auburn and now you

1381
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: look at him the NFL and you're like, oh, that

1382
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: kid's seen a lot of action and he looks more

1383
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 3: prepared than most guys at his age.

1384
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's the benefit of him and Jayde Daniels being

1385
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: so old and playing so much college football that they

1386
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: can come into the league and they're just way more experienced.

1387
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like the four year college basketball players

1388
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: versus the guys who are just one and done that. Yeah,

1389
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: maybe they have a lower long term ceiling, but a

1390
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: lot of times they can come in the league, in

1391
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: in the NBA and like be.

1392
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: A valuable role player right off the bat.

1393
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: And that's what in Bonix's case, I think the role

1394
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: he's trying to fill not be a role player, but

1395
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: be just a solid, steady quarterback.

1396
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1397
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm way more interested in this Seahawks Broncos Week

1398
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: one game than I was like a month ago.

1399
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

1400
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just curious about both these teams. I

1401
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: want to see what it looks like. Bonick's very very

1402
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: solid camp. DeVante Williams very nice camp, has had some juice.

1403
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: He's their starter at running back, Tim Patrick. There was

1404
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: some question whether he would even make this team. He's

1405
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: made some plays in the preseason. Riley Moss is gonna

1406
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: lock down the job at cornerback, I believe, opposite Patrick Sartan,

1407
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: so he'll be, believe, the first White starting cornerback in

1408
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: a long time, because Cooper Dejine's been hurt, so everyone

1409
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: expected he's going to be the guy, but it's going

1410
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: to be Riley Moss, who was beaten on a play

1411
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: deep at one point, but for the most part played

1412
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: well in this game. I'm not going to take much

1413
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: out of the Packers because they didn't play any of

1414
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: their starters. But this actually has made me more optimistic

1415
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: nick about the Broncos than anything. Is that all the

1416
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: Packers and Broncos reporters that were there at the training

1417
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: camp practice was like, oh yeah, Denver kind of put

1418
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: it on them on both sides, especially the defense that

1419
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: the Packers defense, which has reportedly struggled throughout camp, Like

1420
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: Packers defense has been given it to him pretty good,

1421
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: and now the Broncos defense gave it to him pretty good.

1422
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: And reportedly bo Nicks held his own and did pretty

1423
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: well in the joint practices too. Now maybe that's it's

1424
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: the mile High err or maybe the Broncos are just

1425
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: like a little more ready right now than we expect.

1426
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: Who knows. I don't want to draw too much from it,

1427
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: but if I'm a Packers fan, I'm like, like a

1428
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: mildly concerned.

1429
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because they're going in the season with so

1430
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 3: many expectations after how they ended last year, and we

1431
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: don't take too much away from camp in preseason and

1432
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: everything else. But I just think from a Broncos perspective,

1433
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: it's really nice to see what Sean Payton could potentially

1434
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 3: do because last year there were times where I was like, man,

1435
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 3: he's halfway to the country club, Like this is the

1436
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 3: Mike Ditka in the Saints job for him. And yet

1437
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 3: now they look like they're in a better position. So

1438
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm very excited to watch them. And also a tradition,

1439
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: unlike any other Seahawks Broncos Week one, we're just gonna

1440
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 3: make that an annual thing, now, Okay, I like that.

1441
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: Look, Sean Payton's a Hall of Famer. He's one of

1442
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: the best offensive coaches ever period.

1443
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1444
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for you know, since two thousand

1445
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: and four. He might still be my you know him

1446
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahany would be my number one, number one,

1447
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: and number two, and Andy Reid number one, two, three

1448
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: in some order. Even last year, I think you could

1449
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: see that he could coach offense like he just just had.

1450
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: He gets his teams to focus on the details. So well,

1451
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: he's he's just a special coach. It's everything else that

1452
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: was going on, So we'll see.

1453
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm my guy.

1454
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: Michael Pratt didn't didn't really take advantage of his chance

1455
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: to become the backup quarterback. Both him and Sean Clifford

1456
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: have both been struggling, but Pratt, with a fumble in

1457
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: this game, couldn't really move the ball. Final score Broncos

1458
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: twenty seven, Packers too. I usually don't even give this

1459
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: final score, but that one is just a you know,

1460
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: objectively funny final score twenty seven to two Cardinals Colts.

1461
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: This was the game I have the hardest time taking

1462
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: anything from, just because there's not a ton of reports

1463
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: from either his teams during the week.

1464
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of starters in this game.

1465
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: Trey Benson, the rookie running back of the Cardinals, I thought,

1466
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: had a bunch of really good runs a really great

1467
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: touchdown run. That was like, Wow, this guy can cut

1468
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: laterally while really moving fast.

1469
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: So that was impressive.

1470
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: James Boyd of the Athletics says the eighty Mitchell's really

1471
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: been playing better of late in that this wide receiver

1472
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: three job. When Josh Downs gets healthy again, maybe it

1473
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: will be Mitchell over Alec Pierce, who knows has kind

1474
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: of gone back and forth.

1475
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll split it.

1476
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Mitchell, if you give him the runway,

1477
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 3: you give him the length of time he needs zactly made.

1478
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: The kid is so talented, he's gonna make himself a role.

1479
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: It's just you have to have patience with him. And

1480
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 3: the good thing about the Colts is that what we

1481
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: learned last year is that they have plenty of patients

1482
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: because they lost their quarterback after a month and found

1483
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: a way to still stay competitive with Gardner Minshew. So

1484
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: keep an eye on ad Mitchell in the long run.

1485
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna end up being a productive player

1486
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: and all the criticism going to the draft is just

1487
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, an afterthought.

1488
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting Odingbo was playing in the

1489
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of this game. I had him on my

1490
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: top fifty free Agents of twenty twenty five. Maybe I

1491
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: had him too high. If he's playing in the fourth

1492
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: quarter of this game. Good pass rusher for the Colts,

1493
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: but a little further down the depth chart maybe than

1494
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: I thought. Layout to Lotsu, by all accounts, has just

1495
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: been awesome at their training camp. I want, I want

1496
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: to say more about the Cardinals. I need, I need,

1497
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: I need more data I'm not hearing enough about like

1498
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior. I don't you know I could hit

1499
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: you with their backup quarterback battle. It doesn't seem like

1500
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: it's Desmond Ritter. But there's there's not a lot right now.

1501
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: So give me more Cardinals reporters. I know you're out there.

1502
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm missing it. I'm not seeing it, so give it

1503
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: to me. I need more in the right end. The

1504
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: fans like, let me know what's going on. What's interesting there?

1505
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 8: Uh?

1506
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: Jade.

1507
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: Lonnie Woods is a name at tight end of the Colts,

1508
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: just again playing in this game to a lot to

1509
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: make this team. Just a name that I used to

1510
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: be pretty high on and hasn't been working out for him.

1511
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1512
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 3: I think he's in his tough spot because that tight

1513
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: end group also has mo Ali Cox not the same.

1514
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: Island Rayson was also sat in this game, which means

1515
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: that that's their tight two tight ends. But yeah, I

1516
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: guess yeah, but he's yeah, he's down the he's down

1517
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: the list Saints forty nine ers was our other Sunday

1518
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: Night game, forty nine or sixteen Saints ten.

1519
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill.

1520
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: They're really using him at running back, like for real,

1521
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: for real and it looks good like and I'm digging it.

1522
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: Who would have thought that Sean Payton leaves in Taysom

1523
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: Hill gets better? Because I thought Taysom Hill maybe had

1524
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: his best year ever last year, and now that he's

1525
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: like a real running back along with everything else he is,

1526
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a tight end anymore. But you

1527
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: could still use him as a receiver a little bit like.

1528
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: Into it the best use of him in this game

1529
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: that I saw tonight lead blocking for Jamal Williams around

1530
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 3: the left side and just getting into his assignment and

1531
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: clearing a path for Jamal to get a first down.

1532
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 3: I was like, Yeah, we know he loves contact, we

1533
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 3: know he loves to do a little bit of everything,

1534
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: so why not throw him out in front lead the way?

1535
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, some talk about. Is Jamal Williams definitely making this

1536
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: team even though Alvin Kamara has been hurt five for

1537
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: thirty two tonight, so had a good night that should

1538
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: help his case. And yeah, Taysom Hill actually scored a

1539
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: touchdown as a lead blocker as a full back on

1540
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: a fourth and fourth and goal. Derek Carr started this

1541
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: game seven for nine, forty seven yards.

1542
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: You know they did have a scoring drive.

1543
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: I asked my friend Adam West from the Saints block

1544
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: party poadcast, who is at the game at that nice

1545
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: in person twenty two like me and Walker did, And

1546
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: I said, if you send me some notes, I was

1547
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: just gonna read him on the show.

1548
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: We'll get his live reporting. So here we go.

1549
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna edit this somewhat because he's he's a little

1550
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: too anti Derek Carr. The offensive line was was better.

1551
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: It was mostly against forty nine ers backups. But yeah,

1552
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: Rattler had a shaky game. Someone was on him, someone

1553
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: was on his teammates. But I think the Rattler agenda

1554
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: of him potentially at some point challenging Derek Carr that

1555
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: I was put on hold. Right now, Jay Cayner has

1556
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: a chance to still be the backup.

1557
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: We don't know. They're pretty deep at linebacker the Saints.

1558
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 2: That's a good thing to have.

1559
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: Adam says, no clue who the starting safety is opposite

1560
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew.

1561
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: That's interesting. And then I did want to highlight this

1562
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: last point.

1563
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: Chase Young looks good and Brian Briscy is going to

1564
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: make the leap, And yeah, there has been like a

1565
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: steady drumbeat of Chase Young really reckon shop and Brian Brisci,

1566
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: I think is a really good second year player. So

1567
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 1: if you're looking for the strength, maybe the most interesting

1568
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: thing about what the Saints is that defensive line actually

1569
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: could be quite good. Carl Granderson, you still have Cam

1570
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: Jordan in a little bit of a different role.

1571
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: That's a good group.

1572
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 3: I like Brici because he doesn't fit the traditional mold

1573
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 3: of a dtackle, but he's so fast that you can

1574
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 3: win with that. He's not Aaron Donald, But what made

1575
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald so good? Quickness? Power?

1576
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: Right, Bercy's quick, so to hear that is good.

1577
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see him operate as part of

1578
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: that defensive front for this team because their offense still

1579
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: isn't very good. Like I know, it's the preseason, but

1580
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 3: they have a hard time scoring. They had a hard

1581
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 3: time getting the end zone today when they got to

1582
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: the doorstep. So if they need to lean on their

1583
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 3: defense more, it's gonna start up front. Always starts up front,

1584
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 3: so that's exciting for them.

1585
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: Then again, sometimes you see starters out there and they

1586
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: really struggle and you're like, you know, brock Purty went

1587
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: two for six for eleven yards and through one of

1588
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: the more curious passes of the week that almost got

1589
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: picked off across his body, and I don't think anything

1590
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: differently of Black Party after that performance. It's just like, yeah,

1591
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: it's okay, I've seen enough. He was also playing with backups.

1592
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure the forty nine ers wanted him to get

1593
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: some good work in and he didn't. So that's disappointing.

1594
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: But their big issue is who's not there. Brandon Ayuk,

1595
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: we'll see at this point. I think the big expectation

1596
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: is he will sign. And then I did think it

1597
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: was interesting. Christina Pink, the Fox sideline reporter who spoke

1598
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: I believe it was with Shanahan and said said, as

1599
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 1: much as like they're not worried about Trent Williams, that

1600
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: you know that that's going to be taken care of

1601
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: in time. And you were saying about the veterans skipping camp. Basically,

1602
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: I think there is a little bit of that going

1603
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: on with Trent Williams, that he's going to get some

1604
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: sort of raise, and I think this week is probably

1605
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: the week that he shows up. Whether it's early in

1606
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: the week, late week, I don't know. Don't hold me

1607
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: to it, but I think this is a week and

1608
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: if it's not this week, it'll be early next week.

1609
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: I also want to just note quickly the Saints, they

1610
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: would be on that list of the most injured teams too.

1611
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: Marshaw and Latimore. Where are you like is this He

1612
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: went out with an injury right at the start of

1613
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: trading camp, hasn't been seen since. They've had a bunch

1614
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: of other players in and out. Rashid Shaheid Alvin Kamara

1615
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: been hurt from Waga's hurt right now, although I don't

1616
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 1: think that's serious to just a lot of key players.

1617
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: If you look at their starters, they're just been hurt

1618
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: so that that's worrisome for them. We are gonna wrap

1619
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: up took the only way we know how. With the

1620
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: World Champions Chiefs Lions. A little rematch, a little revenge

1621
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: game for the Chiefs from the opener last year. I

1622
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: watched the Chiefs starters because they left Mahomes in for

1623
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: what three was it three drives?

1624
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 7: No?

1625
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: Two drives, and you know, and then Wentz came in

1626
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: and with some more starters, and they racked up a

1627
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: thirteen to nothing lead.

1628
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 4: But the never say die Lions came back.

1629
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1630
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 4: Let's see. Jake Bates had four field goals.

1631
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to be there, dude, he's got to

1632
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: be their guy. The UFL story had a fifty five yarder,

1633
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: he did miss an extra point, but hit a bunch

1634
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: of field goals. Ken then Hooker is maybe the Lions

1635
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: QB two. Let's start on the Lions because I have

1636
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: less to takeaway from there. He's played well in the

1637
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: preseason and it's a battle between him and Nate Sudfeld.

1638
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: So you like to see that with the young quarterback.

1639
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: And then something that caught my eye this week with

1640
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell was he said, we're dying quote, We're dying

1641
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: for someone to step up as a third receiver on

1642
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: this team.

1643
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: So hmm.

1644
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: Donovan Peoples Jones had four targets for five yards. I

1645
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't know who their third receiver is. Maybe

1646
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: he's not on the roster right now.

1647
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I as much as I like Khaliff Raymond,

1648
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 3: I don't see that being the option.

1649
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1650
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: I mean you look at this, actually look with the

1651
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,440
Speaker 3: depth chart and Daris Fountain like it.

1652
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: Tom Kennedy on this death chart.

1653
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1654
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: I see Raymond as like a guy who's gonna be active.

1655
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: He's a special teamer, but.

1656
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 4: He's not gonna be the three look DPJ.

1657
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 3: Once got to Cleveland, it had a lot of hype

1658
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: around him, and then suddenly the Browns just dumped him

1659
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 3: and he went back to Michigan where he's from, where

1660
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 3: he went to college, all that stuff. Then nothing's really

1661
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 3: come of it. So I'm concerned in terms of depth,

1662
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: because if you lose a guy, you're gonna be pretty

1663
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,480
Speaker 3: short handed all of a sudden out of nowhere.

1664
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they missed, They're gonna miss They missed. Josh Reynolds.

1665
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: Right now, who's in the Broncos, And let's mention the

1666
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. We'll get to what everyone was

1667
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: talking about first. But my biggest takeaway right now, is

1668
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: that Xavier Worthy is their wide receiver one and he's

1669
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: always open and Patrick Mahomes found him open early in

1670
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: this game.

1671
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 6: It may have jumped, could be a free play here,

1672
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 6: Mahomes going down the field, Worthy's wide open, cave, you're

1673
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 6: Worthy get it to the Lions thirty sixth.

1674
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 2: In yard line.

1675
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: I just love that throw and catch because just haven't

1676
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: seen enough of those in the Chiefs offense the last

1677
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: few years. And Worthy also got behind the defense for

1678
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: a thirty nine yard touchdown from Wentz. And the commonality

1679
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: with those two places he's so open, and that first

1680
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: one's against zone coverage too, And I went back to

1681
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: watch it and he just does a little stutter step.

1682
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: And these guys they're Sora, they're just afraid of this dude,

1683
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: and he's just buy him. And I think he's their

1684
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. Maybe not in the Tyreek Hill sense,

1685
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: but in the he's gonna outgain Raci Rice in Travis

1686
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: Kelcey in my mind if he stays healthy.

1687
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't want to sound like too cliche,

1688
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 3: but the stutter step description that reminds me of Tyreek Hill.

1689
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying he's the same guy. But that

1690
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 3: reminds me of what helps him get open. Like, yeah,

1691
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 3: he's fast, he's speedy, he's hard to bring down.

1692
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: Let's not get carried away. Let's take a carryalls.

1693
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 4: That's what fits in this offense.

1694
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 3: That's what makes it go down the field, which they've

1695
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 3: lacked for the last couple of years and why they

1696
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 3: become a shorter and shorter passing game and why guys

1697
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 3: like MVS struggled there last year.

1698
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 4: So you got that element back in there. Watch out.

1699
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 1: Yes, And obviously he doesn't have the physicality that Tyreek

1700
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: Hill does.

1701
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 2: He is going to have to avoid hits. He's just

1702
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: a smaller guy.

1703
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: But I said it in the draft process, he played

1704
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: like a one because the attension was all on him

1705
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: and he would get open at the at a at

1706
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: the college level, at the highest level, Adie Mitchell was

1707
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 1: the two. And why can't that work? So so far,

1708
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: so good for Xavier Worthy. Chiefs fans have to be like,

1709
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: really excited about him. They also have to be excited

1710
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: about the behind the back pass heard around the world.

1711
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Patrick Mahomes talk about, Yeah, him him

1712
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: throwing that around behind the back pass to Travis Kelsey.

1713
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 9: So we'll see when we get on film. But it's uh,

1714
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 9: not something that I'm going to try to major in.

1715
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 9: It might be something that just kind of happens every

1716
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 9: once in a while.

1717
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 8: Where you let it go. Where did it feel like?

1718
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 7: You know?

1719
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: I knew it was low.

1720
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 9: I was just hoping Travis it got the Travis, and

1721
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 9: I knew it was kind of on target.

1722
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 8: It just was low.

1723
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 9: But like I said, it wasn't like I didn't do

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01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 9: it to like look cool. I literally did it as

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01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 9: I was like pissed. I was like, why didn't you

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01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 9: run that route like that? And then it just worked out.

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01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 4: Major in behind the oneh one taught by Patrick Mahomes,

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 4: I tend to trust Mahomes. He just seems like a

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01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 4: reliable narrator.

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01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: Look, we're in the preseason where you can just test

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 3: out a sixty six yard field goal just because just

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01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: for the hell of it, why not test out the

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 3: behind the back pass and then pretend like it wasn't

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01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: intentional win a way.

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01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe Mahomes that it has to be

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01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: a very specific situation that I don't think it's like

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01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: a play call that you were planning to do that

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: before it happened, and that I think he just was

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01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: in a situation where it was gonna work. And he

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01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: does it at practice apparently all the time. Maybe not

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01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: all the time, but he's done it before, including last

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: week and in like a team session and it worked,

1743
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: so it's part of his game.

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01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 4: I can't wait till that's like in the regular season.

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01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: That'd be awesome.

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about when he wants through that pass when

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01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 3: he was basically parallel to the ground in the Super

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01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 3: Bowl and then they added to Madden and everybody was

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 3: upset about it being in Madden for two years. When's

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01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: the behind the back pass going to show that the

1751
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: NFL street stuff. Baby, we're going back to like two

1752
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 3: thousand and four. You better watch out video gamers here.

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait for it.

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, I can't wait for the rest of this

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01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 1: week on NFL Daily. Thank you Nick Schuck for breaking

1756
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: down all these games. These Sunday nights have been fun.

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it again next week. It'll be more

1758
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: notes probably on every team than just on the preseason

1759
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: games because next week less starters will be playing. But yeah,

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun week. I have Jordan Rodrigue

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01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: in the studio for our next show, and we're gonna

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: talk about some possible player movement coming up. We've got

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01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond and Colleen Wolf the day after that. Mina

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: Chimes and Kevin Clark are joining the show this week

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: to do some over unders. It's gonna be a lot

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01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: of fun.

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01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: We are off and running. We are on football shape.

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01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Nick Chok's always in shape.

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01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 2: But I'm got that right.

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Speaker 4: See you next time.