WEBVTT - The Babadook: Exhausted & LGBT

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<v Speaker 1>Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes uh Hi, I'm Sienna Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten,

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome to Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots

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<v Speaker 2>watched every film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American

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<v Speaker 2>Movies of All Time, the very slightly less racist tenth

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<v Speaker 2>Anniversary edition. That's what we were doing for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that we're finished with that, we are watching

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<v Speaker 2>movies directed by women.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast is a safe Baba Duck for people who

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<v Speaker 3>don't know anything about movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Rape point. Today we're watching The Babba Duck.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor warning there will be spoilers about this Baba duck

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<v Speaker 3>old film and great point.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it's now a proper noun, an adjective. Herb She's everything.

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<v Speaker 2>She is kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>The Baba Duck is obviously non binary. They are everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I can't wait to talk to you about this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to talk. We must talk.

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<v Speaker 3>But before that, Sianna, could I please hear your projection?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's do it bad.

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<v Speaker 2>My fucking music app. It is so the Babba Duck

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<v Speaker 2>to come up on my music app instead of Hi, Leanna,

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<v Speaker 2>this is cia. I'm about to watch laundry to watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Baba Duke.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen this movie before, but it's been a

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<v Speaker 4>long time. I predict that our protagonist lady gets scared

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<v Speaker 4>by a top hatted.

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<v Speaker 2>Monster on the ceiling. Yeah, I love you, goodbye. It

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<v Speaker 2>was all coming back to me and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's correct. Though

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<v Speaker 2>there was so much I did not recall about this movie,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I thought it was gonna be like this little

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<v Speaker 2>like top hatted ghoul chasing her around the house like

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<v Speaker 2>the whole time, and that's really not what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>No, honestly, I wish that would have been.

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<v Speaker 2>The sequel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Sienna, here is my prediction for the Babba Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear it.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Sienna, it's Yanna. I'm about to watch the Baba Duck.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know anything about this except the Baba Duck

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<v Speaker 5>is a queer icon. I predict I might, I might

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<v Speaker 5>be very scared. And there's a child.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I forgot about that. It's about I literally forgot

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<v Speaker 6>there was a kid there. Maybe they like got a friend,

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<v Speaker 6>or they have to banish it, or maybe the Baba

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<v Speaker 6>Duck is like.

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<v Speaker 3>The kid's dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I love you by so you've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen it? No, why did the queer community latch onto this?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh this? Hmmm? You know, I think it was just

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<v Speaker 2>so much less.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was less.

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<v Speaker 2>Why and more why not? Yeah, totally totally, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And even upon saying that out loud, like I know why,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, let's let's call a spade a spade and content

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<v Speaker 3>warning for the C word here. The Baba Duck serves

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<v Speaker 3>cons it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>What's to be true? Beyond they're wearing a top hat.

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<v Speaker 2>They are jazz, the hand saying they are old, they

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<v Speaker 2>are made, They are a cunty leathery icon. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>do too much like they have some respect for themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of presentation, you know, like they aren't doing

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<v Speaker 2>anything too like they're kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of just like, Yeah, the Baba Duck is jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>The Baba is jazz. The Bobadock is actually quite a

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<v Speaker 2>lot like Liza Minellie. If you step back, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot they have in common. And there are people out

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<v Speaker 2>there who knew that right away. Maybe there's time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>though I had seen it, there was so much, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I didn't remember the child and as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as the child should have like, oh yeah, of course obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>So every film in order to be spooky must have

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<v Speaker 3>a child.

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<v Speaker 2>We will discuss it, but after we say, after we talk,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey girl, hey girl, you told me the first Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing you first. Unfortunately, find is sorry, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first meal you've made for yourself in a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and we're outing that. Okay, just just air me

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<v Speaker 3>on the pods worries. We actually will get to that

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<v Speaker 3>on on my phone notes as well. Yes, I finally

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<v Speaker 3>cooked the ingredients that I bought. It's so hard to

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<v Speaker 3>cook the ingredients that you bought. It is because you

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<v Speaker 3>buy them and then you are hungry immediately every day

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<v Speaker 3>for something that doesn't require preparing ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 3>So finally today I cooked the ingredients that I bought.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say Monday totally. Well, to speaks to

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday right now, it speaks to you. Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll say that. Not a mental health thing at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it doesn't know, but yes, I finally prepared a meal.

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<v Speaker 3>I have energy. I'm sure you could hear in my

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<v Speaker 3>voice in the prediction section that was pre shorking a meal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god. Girl, it's the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry to date this episode, but it is currently the

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<v Speaker 3>day after Valentine's Day, and my big plan was to

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<v Speaker 3>hit the stores for the sales of the Sweet Genius

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<v Speaker 3>of the Little Treats the morning after TM and I

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<v Speaker 3>went straight to m and S, which is like the

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<v Speaker 3>fancy grocery store, to buy their stupid Valentine themed chocolates

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<v Speaker 3>and there was nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They threw them in the garbage.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know where the hell they

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<v Speaker 3>put that. So because according to m Ands, it is

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<v Speaker 3>the night before Easter right now, and a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of pancake mixed in, which is like a weird day

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<v Speaker 3>in March where they have that they considered to be

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<v Speaker 3>pancakes and they're not pancakes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so cursed. So I did that, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Waitrose, an also fancy store, to get

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<v Speaker 3>their Valentine leftovers.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I went to Sainsbury's, the people's store, also nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I texted my flatmate and I was like, the

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<v Speaker 3>L the levels of L that I just took cannot

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<v Speaker 3>be defined.

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<v Speaker 2>That is crazy. That is crazy. It's like, oh, alone

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<v Speaker 2>on Valentine.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever you know what's another What's what's the twenty eighth

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<v Speaker 3>Valentines of doing that? We're that's old hat, we're used to.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine, we know how to do it. The the famously,

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<v Speaker 3>the perk of being single on Valentine's Day is the

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<v Speaker 3>day after you get to go buy all the candy

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<v Speaker 3>for cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>What That may be the only thing I've ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of America doing better? Uh huh, because they're there's always garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>I yearned.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I was craving a CVS. Wow, I

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<v Speaker 3>felt so at sea. That is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a moment where I was like, Wow, I

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<v Speaker 3>really am in a foreign country. I'm in a foreign

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<v Speaker 3>land because this what's happening is fucked.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the point but the point of that? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>go and look into their garbage cans their dumpsters? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that would have been a step down too far.

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<v Speaker 2>My head is in Bob a Duck world. Also, I

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<v Speaker 2>just watched Hereditary on my birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>For some reason, Wow, I was thinking about that movie

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<v Speaker 3>while watching this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen that movie? No? But I've read

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<v Speaker 2>the Wikipedia talks so much about how scary it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was more just like a good movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I get confused about what's scary. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I'm so excited to talk about this film

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Anyway, Hey girl, Hey girl. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday, belated birthday. I was so sick. I was

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<v Speaker 2>very sick. I was in denial until yesterday was the

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<v Speaker 2>first day. I was like, I need to just be

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<v Speaker 2>in bed all day. I just have to. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>sick for a very long time. But my birthday party

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<v Speaker 2>was the night before my birthday. By the time it

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<v Speaker 2>hit about ten pm, I was like, oh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>just tired. Something is happening and I need to be

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<v Speaker 2>in bed as soon as possible. And something has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I don't think I told you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to actually ask them to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that happened to me and my flat might Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I put my pajamas on it two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>I changed out of my party dress. I put my

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<v Speaker 3>pajama a still I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell we were heading towards two in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning territory because like, around eleven PM, someone went to

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<v Speaker 2>get rolling papers for weed and I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really happy. You feel safe for my home and another day.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like love this to be like an up

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<v Speaker 2>all night chatting thing, but I can tell I am

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<v Speaker 2>dying and I need this to be done. So at

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<v Speaker 2>a certain point I went, hey, guys, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>bed in fifteen minutes, just so you know. You can

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<v Speaker 2>do what you want. Yeah, but I'll be asleep in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I didn't tell them was that I was

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<v Speaker 2>dying because I think I was getting sick. And then

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<v Speaker 2>on my birthday, Kelsey and I went to get pastries,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great, but I was sitting in line for

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<v Speaker 2>pastries and I was like, oh, oh, I can't be out,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be standing up. Oh, I can't be standing

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<v Speaker 2>any more. And then I ate an egg burrito, but

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<v Speaker 2>turns out I had a lot of ham in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and something about the idea of ham really turned my

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<v Speaker 2>stomach and I had to stop eating everything, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I went to sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but welcome to twenty eight. To mama, yeah, every

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<v Speaker 3>day is exactly like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding. You were just ill. I was very ill,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm still not. I'm getting over it now, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell I have sick voys.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, oh, Sienna, Papa, could you please ba

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<v Speaker 3>ba ba ba bad bade. Could you please give us

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<v Speaker 3>a synopsis of the Babadke?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is pretty literal, and I apologize Baba Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>The Baba Duke, Amelia struggles to manage the loss of

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<v Speaker 2>her late husband, who died the day her son, Samuel

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<v Speaker 2>was born, about seven years ago. It starts to affect

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<v Speaker 2>the family by this point, and Samuel is being a

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<v Speaker 2>really weird kid who is obsessed with monsters and weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>The two of them find a picture book about a

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<v Speaker 2>scary top hatted monster called the Baba Duke. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>over their home and then Amelia when she lets him

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<v Speaker 2>in one day, sorry, when she lets them in one day,

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<v Speaker 2>the Baba Duke really makes everything horrible and Amelia becomes

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<v Speaker 2>so scary. In the end, they learn to manage the

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<v Speaker 2>Baba Duke just as one manages grief, and she and

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<v Speaker 2>her son finally become close and at peace. The end. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that ending was so girl coded and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I won't made this. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>made this absolute donk.

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<v Speaker 3>A woman wrote and directed this, and can I tell

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<v Speaker 3>you it was so good? Yeah, Okay, I couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 3>what that was gonna be it's really we have to

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<v Speaker 3>just eat ourselves right into phone notes. Hello, everyone, welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to phone no Where. It's really not far off from

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<v Speaker 3>our et impression no Bug Dunk Dunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we talked about the notes we took on our

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<v Speaker 2>phone while watching the film. Leona can't wait to hear

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<v Speaker 2>what you thought about this, so glad it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>you're into it. Your first note, unfortunately, is off. I

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<v Speaker 2>go to does thedog die dot com. They did it.

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<v Speaker 2>They did it. They snapped that dog's neck, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't kill the dog. I guess I remember nothing except

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<v Speaker 2>for must I must.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm eternally grateful for the website does thedog die dot

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<v Speaker 3>com because as soon as there is a dog or

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<v Speaker 3>any sort of beloved creature on screen, I go straight there.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, excuse me, hello, and the website says, yes, Mama,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna want to close your eyes from minute one

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<v Speaker 3>to nine to one. From our one to nine to

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<v Speaker 3>one eleven of the film, can I say and thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for letting me know.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately for me, the movie was canceled right from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it, but I was like, well, you killed

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<v Speaker 3>the dog, so I don't know what to tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>but I gotta say it won me back.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>The ending, The ending got me back. And you see,

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<v Speaker 3>I know your first note and thank you for your consideration.

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<v Speaker 3>You wrote you simply must hate this child.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really about a kid being a little freak. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>did you hate him? Yeah? Or medium?

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<v Speaker 3>I saying I hated that child feels like hate speech. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>because that child is so clearly on the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I wouldn't see it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that child is saying everything that comes to

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<v Speaker 3>his mind. He is interpreting things very literally. Sure, he's

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<v Speaker 3>not responding.

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<v Speaker 2>To social cues.

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<v Speaker 3>That kid has a splash of the tism and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>On top of that, that kid is annoying as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other kid sucks. I hated that kid. That

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<v Speaker 3>kid was shouting constantly and making your life. Had a

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<v Speaker 3>terrible haircut, and may I say was ugly? The kid

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<v Speaker 3>was ugly. I don't know what to tell you. What

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<v Speaker 3>are you about to say?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't There were moments where I thought that this

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<v Speaker 2>kid was I guess, very cute. He pulled my heart

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<v Speaker 2>strings a number of times, like when he's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, mommy, I was just really hungry. God, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>shut up, let her take a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's in a word or if it's in a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get rid of the baba Dad break, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right back. Are there so many memes? Are there

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<v Speaker 2>so many memes from this movie because it's so iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the lines idea, yeah, yeah, I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>that either. One of the lines when when he's like, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry after she turns all monstrous because the Baba

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<v Speaker 2>duck has taken over her and she goes hungry, Why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you just ate shit? That's a meme? No, it

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed memable. I don't know. Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that many memes.

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<v Speaker 3>That classic meme of a mother yelling at her son

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<v Speaker 3>to eat shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe so much? Eight ship. Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I say something that's a little bit anti Australian.

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<v Speaker 3>It was hard to take this movie seriously because it

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<v Speaker 3>had Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>Go and watch A day A day. Mommy, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>go and watch a day they day And I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>darn't don't let it in, don't lead it in, don't

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<v Speaker 2>let it in so Okay, all scary movies had that

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<v Speaker 2>edge because for our ears, it's a little bit like

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<v Speaker 2>of like a fun it's like a game of understanding

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. Or also sometimes it does sound very funny,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it doesn't, but sometimes it does, and that

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<v Speaker 2>makes it a little bit more of a comforting experience

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, I think, than just disgusting American accents. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad it wasn't Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>You've said, in a surprise to no one, I have

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<v Speaker 2>muted the film.

0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Well does the Dog Die? Came in clutch by forewarning

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<v Speaker 3>me of the other sort of moments of horror slash

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<v Speaker 3>gore ish that would be in the film, But unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>that meant that I was expecting them to happen at

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<v Speaker 3>any time. Yeah, because the website and spoiler alert everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>the things of sort of body horror that happen are

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<v Speaker 3>she pulls out her tooth and a guy's head gets

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<v Speaker 3>sliced in half, is how it was worded on the website,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she gets stabbed, And so for every minute

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<v Speaker 3>of the one hour thirty I was like, somebody might

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<v Speaker 3>be about to pull out a tooth, so let me

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<v Speaker 3>just preemptively mute the film. I'd say, all that happened

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<v Speaker 3>in the final eight minutes of the film, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wish does the dog die head? Let me

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<v Speaker 3>know that, because I didn't need to be muting a

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<v Speaker 3>minute eighteen really not like a gratuitous movie all throughout

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<v Speaker 3>at all. In fact, I wonder if it was low budget,

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't. It's all a lot of like ideas

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<v Speaker 3>or her life is just like getting freakier. And for

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<v Speaker 3>a while I realized, you don't even know what the

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<v Speaker 3>monster is yet You're like, is the kid a monster?

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<v Speaker 3>He's so freaky, and then she starts acting weird and

0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.879
<v Speaker 3>then you only see the Baba Duke a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>That it's always like in shadow, it's not like lots

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<v Speaker 3>of disgusting things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are bugs at some point. Yeah, besides that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's mostly them just being weirdos spooky spooky. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 2>said it's so funny that the Babaduke. This is so true, Leona.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, it's so funny that the Baba Duke wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a cunty pop up book about themselves. I love this.

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<v Speaker 3>So for anybody who's not seen the film, the way

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<v Speaker 3>that Babaduk is introduced is this random children's book shows

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<v Speaker 3>up on the weird freak child's bookshelf and the child's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to I don't read this one for bed.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a pop an illustrated pop up book, hand

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<v Speaker 3>lettered that tells the story, the backstory of the Babaduk

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<v Speaker 3>and introduces them as a concept. And I love that

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<v Speaker 3>this demon is out there like cutting out a paper

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<v Speaker 3>outline of themself, illustrating a self portrait, making them into

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<v Speaker 3>a pop up format where you can pull a tab

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<v Speaker 3>and the hand way. I'm obsessed with that. I wish

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<v Speaker 3>every movie villain, especially like horror film Monster, had to

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<v Speaker 3>introduce themselves in a creative craft when it.

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<v Speaker 2>Takes some art direction, Oh, it takes it makes it

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<v Speaker 2>is it like introduces yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes to Freddy Krueger shows up as like a collage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like Jason that like sword Guy shows

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<v Speaker 3>up as like a sticker journal. He sticker journals himself

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<v Speaker 3>into somebody's nightmares.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, totally totally love that. It takes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of work. It's like when uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of of RuPaul's Supermodel where he like

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<v Speaker 2>tells a little story about like himself, like yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know in the Brewster Projects or whatever. It's like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, let me introduce myself a little bit before

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<v Speaker 2>I enter your space. Get a little introduction like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the Baba, a bit about me. You let me

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<v Speaker 2>in once, I'm gonna go duke, and then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let me in. And that's exactly what's gonna happen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that would be better if they had

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<v Speaker 2>a little theme song.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that was what this was missing. They needed a

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<v Speaker 3>like what they do on drag Race exactly like but

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<v Speaker 3>for the Baba Duck. I'm sure people that just calls me.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't you just be normal? A classic meme?

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<v Speaker 3>Sienna, you noted OMG the art department that made that

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<v Speaker 3>book watching it get destroyed and I so you had

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<v Speaker 3>that While that was happening, I was like, yes, Mama.

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<v Speaker 2>BBQ the bb Duck. That's good, thank you BBQ the

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<v Speaker 2>Baby Dook.

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<v Speaker 3>I also couldn't believe they didn't say anything about like

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<v Speaker 3>the Babba Book. Yeah, this introduces themselves via the Baba Book.

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<v Speaker 3>I could have been having some fun. They needed to

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<v Speaker 3>have a little laugh a little giggle.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible dock a baby key, the Bobba Book.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me say apologies to Australia for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, we're being insane, and I answer

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<v Speaker 2>being insane huge.

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<v Speaker 3>But because I live with the Babba Duck.

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 2>And Leona does live with the Baba Duke by.

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<v Speaker 3>The way, yeah, it's not my fault. The Babaduk lives

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<v Speaker 3>in my laundry basket.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Leon, a great point. You said we need a

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<v Speaker 2>stethoscope that detects demons. Yeah, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Every horror film with a spooky child that they take

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<v Speaker 3>to the doctor, the doctor's like, well, all the tests

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<v Speaker 3>came back normal. And I was like, well, why didn't

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<v Speaker 3>you test for demons?

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<v Speaker 2>If the parent could be like, could you actually use

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<v Speaker 2>the demon scope? And they do go, oh yep, they're

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<v Speaker 2>demons in here.

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<v Speaker 3>They need like a cat scan.

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<v Speaker 2>But for demons.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a demon in here an MRI. But the M

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<v Speaker 3>stands for my God. That's the demon. You know, Yeah, totally, Leoni.

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<v Speaker 3>You've also said rar x D the Baba Duke. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>that's so the babaduks vibe that ran.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Babaduk is just like they see them for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time. They're like crawling around the ceiling and

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<v Speaker 2>then they just come down, kind of come down like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like a ring leader at a circus. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they are, is what they.

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<v Speaker 3>Really reminder that that's the career they were meant to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally that poor Baba Duck is in the wrong line

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<v Speaker 3>of work. They don't need to be haunting. They need

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<v Speaker 3>to be going and hosting Cirq de sole.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I don't think I even wrote down is

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<v Speaker 2>the imagine I'm sorry, imagine the Baba Duke m seeing

0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Cirque de Solay. Oh my gosh. They'd be perfect. That

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<v Speaker 2>is what they're made for.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutelyact they wouldn't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Stand out there. We'd all be like, no, you you belong, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, it's served disles Kuza. You don't hosted the

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 3>embodiment of grief at all. You're simply just somebody fit

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<v Speaker 3>for your job who's embodying Liza Manelli in a speak

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<v Speaker 3>in a spookier you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, sort of drag circus. Yea, yes, exactly. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I didn't even write down, but I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>all throughout is that the television programs will kind of

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<v Speaker 2>lit in this like this Australian public television. Every channel

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>she changes too is something like interesting and insane. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like either alle classic old television, like it's either the

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<v Speaker 2>Phantom of the Opera yeah, or like Circus.

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<v Speaker 3>TV yeah, because it was all programmed by the Babba Duck.

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<v Speaker 3>I love by the way of the concerting themselves in

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 3>media throughout history. It's like, and here was my cameo

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 3>in Trip to the Moon, the first ever film. Here,

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 3>of course, I can be spotted in the Wizard of Oz. Yeah,

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. The Baba Duck is a producer. The

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Babba Duk should have gotten an EP credit on this

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 3>film for sure. Yeah, produced by the Babba Duck.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bamba Duke. Kiss Kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, Siena, Oh, how spooky for you. You wrote

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 3>her jaw hurts and she's sleepy and time moves wrong.

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 3>She literally is me. I found her so relatable at

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 3>certain points also.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the jaw hurts? Oh, and then she'll like kind

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 2>of like be sitting there and then she looks up

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's been nine hours. That's how I feel all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Oh my god, that's what it's like to

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 2>be me. I'm sitting there. My jaw hurts, and I

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 2>look over in three hours of past and I'm like,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck?

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel very related to her in that the way

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 3>that she's coming apart at the seems is how I

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>feel waiting for my visa application decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just like, please let me nap. I'm so tired.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I just need to nap for five years. And then

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 3>she has ice cream for dinner and I was like, hello,

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 3>same walls.

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Leana, you've said all cops are bobadoks.

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 3>She goes to the station to report that she's being stopped,

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 3>and behind the police officer, the Boba Duke outfit is

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 3>hung up on the wall. I said, A cab, a cab.

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 2>We know your secret, we know your secret. Yeah.

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 3>It reminded me of did you ever have that book?

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 3>That book about that woman who's a teacher and she

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>hates her students because they're all so poorly behaved. So

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 3>she leaves and she dresses up as a witch whatever.

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is she comes back as the bad That

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 2>is what she does. Yeah, but her outfit is very

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Baba duck coded. That's true. It is m hmm, it

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>really really is.

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 3>The Baba Duck really is all around. I love the

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<v Speaker 3>Baba duck. I love the idea it's from love. Actually

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 3>love actually is all around. The actually is all around.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you go to heath Throw Terminal five,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll find the Boba duck actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the baba duck. Duck is also just oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, dreaming that the boy Sana you wrote he's

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>home aloning the baba duck like genuinely, yeah, well like

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 2>little Jerry rigged things. He's like, I will say, one

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 2>thing I did love about this kid is that this

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 2>kid like does understand monsters on another level. This kid

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>is like, by the way, Mom, the Baba do is

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 2>inside of you. And she's like, no, it's not. And

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 2>he's like, no, it is. And I know you're not

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>my mom, You're the bobba duck right now. Yeah, just

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>really sweet. Actually, he's like, there's something mom, there's something

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 2>else going. This isn't you. I can tell this isn't you.

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 2>And he helps her by setting up a series of

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 2>traps in the basement.

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, slapping her in the legs, legs and tying her

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 3>up and it's really scary.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 2>And then at a certain point of throw up. She's

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>sort of like getting bonked and tripping, spinning and swirling

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 2>and like trips her, he bonks her. It is very

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>home alone. You're right, it's really funny.

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Actually, Oh my god, imagine home alone six the Baba

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 3>duck ill versus the Baba duck.

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>You've said yes, Mama, and then you've said okay, Mama

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>too much.

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 3>At first when she was like, leave me alone, I

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 3>want to nap, Please let me alone. Yeah, because this

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 3>kid has not shut up for one hour. But then

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 3>she yelled at the child and was.

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Like, you should eat shit. And I was like, well, no,

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.919
<v Speaker 2>that is too far. What's wrong with me? That that

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you should eat shit? Made me laugh out loud? Oh god,

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 2>it made me laugh. I really don't like the concept

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>of eating shit. It just her like it's so visceral. Wow,

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I guess that doesn't that doesn't it doesn't apply to

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>me as some an actual image. It's just like such

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>a mean thing to say to your cage your kids,

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 2>like I'm hungry, And she's like, while, whana you just

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>ate shit? That's so mean. It very yeah, it's so funny.

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>That's like the worst response ever. He's like, no, I

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>was just hoping for a meal. I'm a child. I

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>literally can't feed myself. She goes, why are you always

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>talk talk talking, And I was like, the Bobbadook, the Bobbadook,

0:28:56.000 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>using the Bobbadocks, this is a parallel, parallel structure. Oh yes,

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>talk talk talking whatever.

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I am bic pentameter. But for the Baba Duke, I

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 3>am book, I am book, I am dook, I am book,

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I am book, I am babomed.

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yep, she was using I am dook babomed, which is

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>written which I am. Yeah, Leanna, you said two freaks

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>jump scaring each other, and you've said Mama's bad day.

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Alternate title for the film Mama's Bound. Mama goes Baba

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 2>today Mama Duke.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, these two freaks when she's sneaking around the

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 3>house looking for her son because she's gone demon mode

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 3>and her son is hiding. But they're both such freaks

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 3>that it's unclear which of them is supposed to be

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 3>the jump scar. Yeah, And I was like, this house

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 3>is hell. Imagine you are a freak who lives with

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>another freak, so every time you see each other, you're both.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Going oh yeah, by the way, exhausting The first half

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>of this movie is just the kid being weird and

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>people being like, your kid's a freak. I can't, I can't.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I can't stand being around your kid.

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 3>He's such a funke a height being around him, I

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 3>don't want to and then want to be around your son.

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 2>He's okay, okay, he's okay, it's okay, and then out

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>of a out of a treehouse and she's like, yeah,

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>breaks her face. He's not okay. It's like, sorry, mama's

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>bad day, colon, Mama's mad. Duke. You've said cat cow,

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>she does cat cow? Yeah, yeah, that's really funny. That

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>cat cow, I bet, can be found in almost any

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>horror film. He knows Faratu we saw it in the Babad.

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>There's no way to expel anything from your body or

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 2>uh and what's the oppisode expell inhale inhale it into

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>your body except for cat cow in the scary movie. Yeah.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 3>I the next time I do cat cow, I'm gonna

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 3>be thinking about that. Leon those demons out pleaas Leoni.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>You've said the Babaduk is CPT.

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess, well, well, I realized when it becomes clear

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 3>that it's about grief. It's like, oh, the Babaduk just

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 3>wants you to process your trauma. The Baba Duck is

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>literally cognitive processing therapy because I've done CPT and it's

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 3>like homework assignments each week that you like fill out,

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>and that's basically the Baba Duck is having you do

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 3>a very intense homework assignment to process your grief by

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 3>event first of all bye bye, by sucking it in

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and then terrorizing your child and then barfing it out.

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean it's an extreme until he's your home

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 2>and then for the rest of your life, feeding at worms,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>feed it worms, just as your homework.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I loved that scene you wrote. This is so obviously

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 3>made by women.

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Lol.

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 3>That scene at the very end when it like approaches

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 3>her and she gasps and then comes back and it's okay,

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I got I have goosebumps just talking about.

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>It right now. I cry.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:27.719
<v Speaker 3>That really is what won me back In the end.

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, okay, all right, you got me.

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 2>So many scary movies are supposed to be like an

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>embodiment of some fear we have, and so like the

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.239
<v Speaker 2>thing about the fears we have in real life is

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 2>that you kind of have to have some peace with them.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 2>And grief is such a powerful one to I feel

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes the Babaduck has talked about like, oh, yeah,

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>it's about grief, and so we already like we I

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I had no idea. I knew it was

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>about a queer icon. I didn't know it was also

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I knew that about it. But it's almost kind of

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>like that's its gimmick sometimes is what like the way

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>that I've heard it And I don't know if that's true.

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't have I don't know, but like I, I

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>think it's so powerful even if you know that it's

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>about that, because grief is such a scary thing that

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>we just have to experience in our life. It's just

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like and such a different I love.

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>The the message of like grief stays with you. Yeah,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 3>you have to keep living with you. You can't get

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 3>rid of the baba duc, but you can find a

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 3>way to keep to keep going.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>To manage it, to put it somewhere. It's it's it's

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 2>And then when the.

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Kids, like toll I ever meet them and she was

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 3>like when you're older, and I was like, oh my god,

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 3>that's also true, Like you will it comes for us

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>all like we do all go through that and experience that,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 3>and again it doesn't go away. It stays with you forever.

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>But I love that, like illustration of grief, how it's

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 3>like a big circle in your life and then it

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 3>stays that same size, but then your life right expands

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 3>around it. Right, your life becomes full with other things

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 3>as well. And that's also very the Baba Duck. Yeah,

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 3>we always are with the Baba Dook, but now she's

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:15.720
<v Speaker 3>also got.

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>In peace with it. It's not like the main thing

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 2>in her life. Like I also thought it was so

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:22.919
<v Speaker 2>beautiful the ending where she's finally able to just stay

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 2>out loud, like, well, the reason for this is because

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, well, you never celebrated your son's birthday before.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, her, my son's father died that day,

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 2>so this is the first time we're doing it, or

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>your son.

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 3>We must say, my son's incredibly hot, father, I know,

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 3>what the hell, let's discuss that. That has to be discussed.

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 3>I also wonder she was in mourning. Yeah, she lost dad.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Ass is your son being a little freak? Take a

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 3>few minutes off, because otherwise you're gonna start having mama's

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 3>bad day, We'll be right back.

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was so so sweet though, when she goes, oh,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I love when women make things when when they're like, oh, yeah, well,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 2>three weeks is a long time to be out for kids,

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of this movie also is her as

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>a single mom really struggling and everybody judging her, and

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>she's just like really having a hard time, and people

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>are getting tired of her shit and her like her

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>sadness and her disorganization, and they're like, oh, well, he's

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>been out of school for three weeks now, it's like

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 2>a long time. And she goes, we needed some time.

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>We needed some time because they needed some time, because

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>you just need some time to sort things out, to

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>deal with it because grief is a really hard thing.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Was so sweet. Yeah, she got some confidence around that,

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>like you said, like her life is growing around it.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I just it. Really these are the kind

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>of things where I'm like, oh, I get why you'd

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>make a horror movie out of this, because that is

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>just a dark part of life and it's like a struggle,

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a battle. Hmmm. I love when women make things. Yes,

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.720
<v Speaker 2>a scary movie that ends with her going sh the monster.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Work.

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Lena, your final note is honestly work. Yeah, really, yes, yes,

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Leona trages. Yes, where we give badges for Boba douk, Yeah,

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>of course, and trages for the traumas that are holding

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 2>us back in.

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Process and process. Yes, Oh, I have a badge for

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 3>this is where the why can't you just be normal?

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Meme comes from where she's yelling at her son in

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 3>the back seat and she goes, why can't you just

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 3>be normal? And it cuts to the sun and the

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 3>caption is just screaming.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I love that meme. Badge for oh, ending with compassion.

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I love the ending so much as we just discussed

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 2>badge for oh.

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I guess this is kind of a badge for myself

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 3>because I was proud of this, this syntax of yes girl,

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 3>BBQ the bb dou Yeah, I love that badges were

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny to put it on the barbecue on

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 3>the back. Yeah it is again, Sorry to Australia. Badge

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>for no gratuitous scares or they all come excuse me,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 3>they all come in like the last eight ish minutes again,

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not just like a super disgusting movie, it's

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 3>all it's it's mostly psychological horror.

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 3>A badge for the switch of perspective because for the

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 3>first half hour, Yeah, you're thinking that the sun is

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 3>the scary, crazy one and you're seeing it from the

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 3>mom's point of view, and then it switches and suddenly

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 3>you're kind of you're rooting for the sun, yeah, to

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 3>prevail against the demon possessed.

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 2>That is such a good point. And then the last

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 2>it's subtle, but then it's sleigh. The very last second

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 2>switches to bobaduk Pov when they run down the stade. Yes,

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I loved that as well.

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 3>And I love the way that they don't show the

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 3>monster when it like comes yeah upon her in the basement.

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>That was awesome.

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Backs off her that also was really cool. Women Women badge.

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>For Okay, I kind of loved her hair throughout this movie.

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was doing it did it

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 2>look so good? I don't know. It was such a

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 2>fun shape. Also, it was like it was great big

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 2>on top and yeah she was she was slaying. I

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It was so good.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 3>It was borderline of trage for me because I was like,

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 3>this is a woman at her wits end. How is

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 3>her hair constantly a blowout was like a cooler way

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 3>though it was not a color hip or a shape I.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Would Yeah, it was hip that I would have expected.

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just like beach waves. It was cool. No,

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 2>she's cool, very cool. Yeah, she's cool.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>My final badge is a badge for a powerful metaphor

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 3>for grief.

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really effective. It was so beautiful. Loved that depiction.

0:38:55.520 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 2>So beautiful badge for I your mother.

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not, Oh, you know what I have to do?

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 3>An additional badge from that where the illustrations of the

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Baba Duk with its teeth, it's got a very specific

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 3>facial expression, and she mimics that in her acting during

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that scene where she's like yelling and possessed, she was excellent.

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 3>There could have been another version of this where there's

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 3>like a woman who's just struggling and screaming and sad.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>That would have felt bad, It would have felt more.

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We've seen so many movies, and maybe

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>it's because we know she's gonna overcome because this is

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 2>made by women and they're not just gonna like have

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>her like at the end be like, well, this is

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 2>what it means to be a girl and I'm just

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.439
<v Speaker 2>gonna die tragically. You're like, oh, look I have a baby.

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Rosemar's baby style very nose Fara too. Yeah, it is

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, it's tragic, tragic, tragic, and then at the

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 2>end she dies and it's just like, yeah, it just

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 2>feels like using the women's fear for no reason. I

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>don't like it's you know, it's not going towards it.

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 2>But for some reason in this one, like it just

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just really was feeling for her and it

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>felt very in fact, yeah, it felt very like she

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 2>felt very relatably out of it and the way she

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 2>was like avoiding. I also appreciate that they made this grief.

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>She's been like holding onto it for seven years. It

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like just like one year of you know, it's

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>like the depth of it, you know, instead of it

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 2>being like, I don't know. I feel like a lot

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 2>of times in movies, people haven't been they haven't been

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>gone for long enough. Did you want her? Mom died

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 2>like a year ago? In Wolf? Oh a month ago

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>or something.

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 3>There was a movie was it Scream That was like,

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 3>but that was last year. I can't believe you're not

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 3>oly it now, your mom was horribly last year.

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>One year ago? What the hell? Yeah? Oh?

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 3>And also was it Twitches? It was Twitches where her

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 3>mom died like two months ago or something.

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:58.879
<v Speaker 2>I guess all the movies that we're talking about are

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 2>not a notably good movie. But but this is one

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why it's you know, it's like a

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>very deep thing she's holding on too, and she's pushing

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>it away because not those things are really hard to

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>deal with in life. By the way, it's not like

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 2>there's a rule book that everybody just follows. Yeah. Yeah.

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 2>My final badge is just I think it was just good.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Part way through the movie. I was just like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is really good.

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Baba Duke more like Baba good good, Mama good.

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>A trag is trages. I only have one, so you.

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Go, okay, Well a trage for the film canceled itself

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 3>by killing the dog right for sure.

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Unfortune. Sorry my only one badge in this movie, and

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe sorry my only my only trage

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 2>that I wrote down at least was life Unraveling was

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 2>super stressful while I was sick on Nike will oh god. Yeah,

0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 2>the way it was unraveling I was like, is this

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 2>your life? Is being out of it watching a movie

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>where they're out of it? Weird?

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that would be freaky. I was freaking out

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 3>like that, uh trage for has this child considered ever

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 3>doing something that's not shouting? Not even really the actor

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 3>just that kid needed to shut.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Up that kid. Yeah, I get it.

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to be shouting all the time. I

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 3>don't know how people put up with children. I don't

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 3>know how you do it.

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Dart litter me, dart lighted in, dart lighted in.

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Dor't let it in, just like when it was on,

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 3>when it was on the playground, being like mom it, mama, sorry,

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 3>just annoying. Children are so annoying. Maybe I'm the Baba duck.

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's so funny. We all have a moment in life.

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been just experience. You know, you're you're

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 2>in a fight with a friend, or you know you're

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you're having trouble at work. You feel like the world's

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 2>had to get you, and then you have a moment

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 2>where you go, am I the baba duck?

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, honestly, girl, I hit the CEO of

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 3>our company with a golf ball the other day, I

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, am I the Baba duke?

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 2>What was the context? Please? Oh, please tell me the context? Please?

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 3>The context was regrettably explainable. It was that we were

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 3>doing mini golf for our Valentine's social and on the

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 3>final hole you had to hit it really hard because

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 3>it had to go like vertically up a ramp. And

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I hit it so hard that it went out, bounced

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 3>off the end of the hole, came back, bounced off

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 3>a wall, and then hit the CEO on the shoulder,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 3>and then every the whole company backed away slowly.

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>And I left.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>My second to last trage is ew why is why

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 3>are they leathery? Because the baba duck I love the

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 3>illustrated version of them. But then I r L. I

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 3>agree there was some leather going on that I was

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 3>not ready.

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>For the ceiling on the ceiling, what is this texture?

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Not what I expected?

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.240
<v Speaker 3>No, because there wasn't any any hint of a sine

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>in the illustrations that the Baba in their pope like

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 3>sheen like in their Baba book. Yeah, and my final

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 3>trage is a trage for the horror genre is so unrespected,

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 3>I know in awards ceremonies and I know, award ceremonies

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 3>are like whatever, but there are some some real achievements

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 3>are happening in this category, like the acting Sie Davis,

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 3>the lead actor in this movie.

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 2>She was so good. These are one of the only

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>films also where they can really be explicitly art films

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 2>in a way that reads like I, I, as a viewer,

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 2>get something out of watching an artistic horror film. You know,

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like that has because like they were really creative in

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 2>this one. There was a lot of artfulness to angles

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and shadow and things like that, Like I find myself

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>looking for like symbols and things like that, like which

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm much more engaged in, like the movie experience than

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I am watching all the other stuff totally. So it's

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 2>strange that we it's just a weird thing to be

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>so disrespectful of. I get some of the like the

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>slasher things seeming cheap, but a lot of horror movies

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 2>are not like that.

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 3>And let's say a lot of mainstream movies are made

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 3>by men, yeah, and are terrible.

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Terrible, are terrible.

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 3>We need to recalibrate as a society. Well, Sienna, let's

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 3>pop up into our next segment, how to pretend you've

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 3>seen this film.

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 2>This is for.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 3>You.

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Are at the library looking for a book and you

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>open one up and it pops up, and.

0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Samuel pops out of it and says, hill aar, hell,

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 3>are are reminds me? I love pop up books will

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 3>always remind me of a film.

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Why are you hiding in this book?

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 3>A film that I love that's a bit a boy

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and a dad and it's really powerful. I'm so sorry

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 3>to Australia. It's called The Babba Duke. And I'm gonna

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 3>talk to you all about it. And in order tell

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 3>you the whole thing, in.

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Order to shun to push, in order to push Samuel

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:38.479
<v Speaker 2>down to the basement and feed him worms, We're gonna

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 2>give you a few things you can say to pretend

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 2>you've seen the film The Barba Duke.

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Mmm, yes, Samuel, I've seen The Baba Duke. I can't

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 3>talk about this right now because I have to go

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 3>see a man about a thing. And Samuel goes, are, well,

0:46:54.160 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 3>where where's the man? And I go He's in the cemetery.

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:05.919
<v Speaker 3>Wonder when Tamil was like, my dad's in the cemetery.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, oh my god, Oh this is interesting. Yes,

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Samuel I've seen the film The Baba Duke. Fun fact

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 2>in Hebrew, bab bab duke means he is coming for sure,

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 2>for sure, he is coming for sure. I don't know.

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 3>That is the thing that steps this up from No Speratu,

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 3>because no Sparatu they're always like he is coming. But

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 3>the Baba Duke, they're like, they are coming for sure.

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 2>They're coming for sure, for sure, which is said that

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 2>is true about grief? It is true, for sure, for sure.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:53.839
<v Speaker 2>There's something like, there's something so deep about grief as

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 2>a human. It's like death comes for us all, but

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 2>specifically as a human, the fact that grief comes for

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>us all since being social and the people around us

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 2>are so important. Ah, Baba duke, Babba duke.

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, Samuel, I've seen the Baba Duck. This film

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 3>has a rare example of a man who seems alright

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.720
<v Speaker 3>actually in the form of Amelia's co worker who shows

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 3>up with flowers and a puzzle. If a man came

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 3>to my if a kind man came to my door

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 3>with flowers and a puzzle, I would say, well, perhaps

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:31.879
<v Speaker 3>today I am not.

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:40.240
<v Speaker 2>The Baba Duck. Do come in? That is sweet? Come in, yes, Samuel,

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I have seen the film The Baba Duke. Despite the

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 2>fact that the film was the first to be selected

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>for Sundance Festival that year, director Jennifer Kent feared that

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:54.319
<v Speaker 2>American audiences would dislike it, would dislike its unconventionality. She

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 2>was relieved when the film was very well received in

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the USA and got excellent reviews. Yeah, I feel like

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 2>we love that movie here. I don't know Film Rose

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:08.240
<v Speaker 2>and the Queer Icon of the Icons alike. I didn't

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>know that the film was beloved. I knew the Baba

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Dooke themselves, but I love that. I think the reason

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I saw it in college was because of Film Bros.

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Mm you, I know you. I first, I hadn't remember it,

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and now I saw it again and I'm like, oh,

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 2>my god, work, work, I go.

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I begin to reply to Samuel, but then my perfect

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 3>angel of the dog, Bugsy, starts barking at him, and

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I realize, oh, I'm sorry, I can't continue this conversation

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:40.320
<v Speaker 3>because I believe you are currently possessed by the Baba Dooke, Samuel,

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.320
<v Speaker 3>so I will be taking my business and my dog elsewhere.

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Sorry, I just saw some really really funny trivia

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>pieces which explain a lot. Yes, yes, Samuel, I have

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 2>seen the Bobba Dook. Here are the two best pieces

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 2>of trivia about this movie. Baba duck is an anagram

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>of a bad book. Well, and yep, this answers a

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of our questions. Uh, yes, Samuel, I've seen this film.

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 2>And Leanna, the film became a meme and symbol for

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 2>the LGBTQ community after Netflix accidentally placed it under lgbt Movies. Yes,

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 2>oh that's how it started. I forgot about that.

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 3>That's so yes, and then all of the drawings of

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.879
<v Speaker 3>the Babba duck with the rainbow behind them were like, oh.

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 2>What do you know that we don't? Yeah, but it

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 2>all makes sense, they are. It all makes love that.

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 3>The Babba duck is so queer.

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's so bab I love when accidents, like when

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a moment in capitalism. Yeah, it makes us all

0:50:54.320 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 2>bind together where we're all like yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah,

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.919
<v Speaker 2>that is so funny. What's the Baba duck doing on here?

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I didn't know the Baba duck came out.

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 3>They came out of They literally come out of the

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 3>closet in the film.

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:17.319
<v Speaker 2>That's so true. Well, Leanna, shall we move on to

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 2>our next segment, which, of course, should you watch this

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 2>or where we tell you if you watch this film

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>or if you should do anything else with your precious time. Leanna,

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 2>what say you?

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, I would say, yeah, you can watch the

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Baba Duck. You do need to be aware that the

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 3>dog does die, So skip one hour nine minutes to

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.359
<v Speaker 3>one hour eleven and a half minutes if you don't

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 3>want to see that. If you're not in the mood

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 3>for watching the movie, you could do some work on

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<v Speaker 3>processing your grief. Uh huh, because it is so it

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<v Speaker 3>is so important to do that, otherwise you will throw

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<v Speaker 3>up a demon in your basement after getting stabbed in

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<v Speaker 3>the leg by your young freak son.

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<v Speaker 2>So true, seat, what would you say, just take some time.

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<v Speaker 2>When you did some time, I would say this movie

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<v Speaker 2>is great. I would actually quite recommend it. It's also

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<v Speaker 2>a cool hour and thirty minutes, by the way, because

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, it was made by a damn woman. She's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna waste your damn time. And they tell you

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<v Speaker 2>a story in that time, and it's fantastic. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>too like a really good movie. It's enjoyable and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the kind of movie that makes me want

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<v Speaker 2>to make props for movies really badly. Yeah, what I

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<v Speaker 2>would say you could do instead if you wanted a

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<v Speaker 2>similar vibe, which is Australian content that has become queer

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<v Speaker 2>canon for Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it Kath and Kim.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, you could watch Kath and Kim. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or even more specifically, you could watch Tricksy and Katia

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<v Speaker 2>watch Kata and Kim yes, which is for some reason

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most I watch it when I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 2>really bad because it's so fun to watch them love

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<v Speaker 2>something so much, watching them in real time experience. How

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<v Speaker 2>funny katherin Kim is and them just be like Trixy

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<v Speaker 2>and Kati have to watch all these movies for Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's also a Netflix, uh Netflix thing. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>like us watching movies and kind of just like talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it and kind of enjoying some of them. But

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that they actually genuinely enjoy and they're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>we actually got to watch something I loved is when

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<v Speaker 2>they watch Kath and Kim. So thank you Australia for

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<v Speaker 2>your wonderful art and your sense of humor. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>another thing you could watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Also Australia Coded Australia moment. Trixy and Katia watch that

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<v Speaker 3>show Sex slash Life, huh and they laugh so hard

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<v Speaker 3>at a line delivered by an Australian actor and then

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<v Speaker 3>keep repeating it, which is I came to you six

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<v Speaker 3>months Agar with a ring and the promise of a life.

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<v Speaker 3>And you said, Naar, my flatmate, and I quote Tricky

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<v Speaker 3>and Katya to each other all that I came to

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<v Speaker 3>you six months Agar with a ring and a.

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<v Speaker 2>Promise of a law. So funny you said, nar. Also

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<v Speaker 2>Katherin Kim made by women, Australian women.

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<v Speaker 3>Sleigh sore sly rate the film The Baba Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rate the film The Baba Duke five your

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<v Speaker 2>mothers out of five. Leanna, what about yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>I would give the film The Baba Duke four bugsies

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<v Speaker 3>out of five. Really enjoyed it very much. But they

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<v Speaker 3>killed the dog and I'm really sorry. You're not getting

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<v Speaker 3>a full You're not getting full marks from me if

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<v Speaker 3>you do that. And that is the Leanna promise, mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 3>the promise of a law platform, my platform.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Baba, thank you so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching Severance recently. You ever watched the parts?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I hear a lot about it. Though

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Scott's mouth it is like smaller than his eye.

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<v Speaker 2>It is remarkably small, and it's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>he looks cartoonish. And I think that he's like somebody

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<v Speaker 2>you like to watch. But like I was thinking, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Tony Collette has sort of like a huge mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she's sort of known for and things.

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<v Speaker 3>She a wonderful performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, but a lot of my spooky performances because

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<v Speaker 2>she could be like, ah yeah, true, true. And there

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<v Speaker 2>was certainly now that Adam Scott asking him to scream

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<v Speaker 2>versus her to scream, the outcomes.

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<v Speaker 3>Are gonna be extremely Yeah, there's a reason Adam Scott

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<v Speaker 3>was not in Hereditary.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't be casting it because when he tries to

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<v Speaker 2>screams like a