WEBVTT - Ep 57: Josh T. Pearson 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.760 Loud and Quiet presents Midnight Chats. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.439 Evening listeners a bit of a special Midnight Chats for 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.600 you tonight. As you know, we usually record these podcasts 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.920 behind closed doors in the quieter spot that we can find, 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.600 but on some rare occasions we do head out into 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.440 the outside world just to see what that looks like 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.440 before we scurry on back to our little office in 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.479 East London. Back at the start of September, we headed 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.200 to Lama Tree Gardens in Dorset, which is the picturesque 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.920 home of End of the Road. Now if you don't 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.800 know it, it's an amazing festival and I particularly enjoyed 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.280 this year, not just because the sun was shining and 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.959 that at Loud and Quiet we got to kick the 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.880 whole thing off with the opening night party, which was 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.679 really fun, but because I got to see so much 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:11.360 good music. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:12.640 As part of the. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.880 Stuff that we do with End of the Road, we 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.679 take our podcast gear along with us, and for the 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.119 third year running we've recorded an episode of Midnight Chats 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:26.160 live on stage at the festival. We nickname it Midday 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.000 Chats for the weekend because we record it at lunchtime 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.520 when everybody's easing themselves into the day with a coffee 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.000 or usually something stronger than that. In the past we've 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:43.679 recorded episodes with Anna Meredith and last year Nadan Shah. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.000 Both of those are still available to listen to their 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.920 episodes twelve and thirty three in the archive if you 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.600 do want to go back and check those out. This year, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.120 my guest was Josh T. Pearson. He played on the 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.280 Friday night on the main Wood stage and joined on 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:04.720 Saturday lunchtime at the Piano stage for this conversation. If 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.120 you don't know Josh, he found cult fame with the 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.920 Texas based band Lyft to Experience in the early two thousands. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.160 They made the seminal post rock album Texas Jerusalem Crossroads, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.000 and then split up and did separate things. Josh went 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.400 away promised he'd grow a beard until he made a 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.440 second album, and eventually emerged a decade later with a 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.960 very Big Beard and his first solo album, which was 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.600 Last of the Country Gentleman in twenty eleven. But to 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.600 bring things right up to speed, he returned this year 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.799 with his second solo album, The Straight Hits, which marked 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.920 a different sound and a different, clean shaven appearance for Josh. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.799 This came as lift to experience, played their first show 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:55.720 together in fifteen odd years at Guy Garvey's Meltdown in 0:02:55.919 --> 0:03:00.519 twenty sixteen, and they also did Primavera Sound in Barcelona 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.480 this year. Just to paint the picture of this podcast 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.440 you're about to hear, a few hundred people gathered at 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.360 the Piano stage, which is located in the woods at 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.640 the festival and is decorated like an old person's living 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.680 room with lampshades and vintagey chairs and obviously a piano. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:24.440 Josh was running on rock Star time and arrived triumphantly 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.720 about two minutes before we started recording this on one 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.079 of those festival buggies that you see because his keys 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.760 player had a broken foot. Josh had a cigarette in 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:37.760 one hand and a glass of white wine in the 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.680 other and settled in for this conversation. I'm fairly confident 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.280 that he'd had a late night before, and he was 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.880 putting the blame squarely on his vegan sound guy who 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.280 smokes a lot of weed. Apparently. Anyway, as you're about 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:57.400 to hear, Josh is less of an interviewee and more 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.960 of a storyteller. What my mum would have afectionately referred 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.640 to as a bit of a character. This is one 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.600 of the more unruly episodes of Midnight Chats that we've recorded, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:14.160 but also one of the most honest, endearing, and entertaining. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.320 But just quickly before we get into that, if you 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.560 didn't catch Stu announcing the news on the last podcast, 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.760 we are now officially available on Spotify, So if you 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.279 prefer to listen to your podcasts on Spotify, you can 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.560 now search for us and you'll find all the old 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.719 episodes and all the new episodes that we make over there. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.240 So let's get into the conversation. Thank you and the 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.599 road festival. Thank you, Josh T. Pearson. Thank you to 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.640 all of those who came to listen and those of 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.680 you listening now. Of course, this is Midnight Chats episode 0:04:48.880 --> 0:05:08.120 fifty seven. Please were you joined me in welcoming Josh T. 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:08.720 Pearson? 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:15.920 Yeah, thanks, I'll blessing almost sort of. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.640 Josh, you already said that you are feeling. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.440 Night. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm a professional. I'll be 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.839 up and ready in a couple hours. 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.360 How was the show last night? You played there? 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.240 Nobody died. I was happy to hear that I had 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.040 a whole team we've been doing They got a new 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.680 record out Smash Hits, and we just put a band 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.880 together a couple of months ago. Real quick. I have 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.720 a new band a couple of weeks ago. These one 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.640 off shows are kind of hard because you just kind 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.240 of get everything going and then you just stop. So 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.320 about halfway through the set, you're like, that's pretty good, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.080 let's do it again. But two weeks ago we played 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.520 Larude of Rock, which is in some malo in Brittany, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.000 and we pricked practiced with a new drummer on Thursday, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.599 Alie from the Duke's Spirit, and then a new guitar 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.880 player on Friday, Laurent who was a Frenchman, and then 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:11.200 we played Saturday right before Patty Smith, which was pretty cool. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.560 We fist bumped oh way out. I was pulling for 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:20.720 Patty Cakes, but she wasn't having it. I'm kidding. None 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.159 of that happened except they're playing before Patty Smith and 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:27.000 the practicing anyway. Yeah, so it was good. Yeah, but 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.080 I feel if we did it again it'd be better. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.320 Now it's a big stage. I was thinking we were 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.880 doing the garden stage. I was just telling the stories. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.359 I was in my head in my practicing, and I 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.760 was playing the garden stage and just killing it, you know, 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:41.920 and let me get to the wood stage, like shit, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.240 this is a little bigger. I wasn't fair for this, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:48.320 but I think it was okay. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:48.599 Y'all. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.360 People don't move around as much, and it's nervous because 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:52.880 this is my fourth time here, and I love y'all. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.080 I recognize a bunch of your faces and feels like family. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.760 So and it's a new sort of a bit of 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.920 it partuy from the last of so I was happy 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:02.680 that people were there. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.400 You did something that I've never seen anybody do before 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.159 a show, which was that about fifteen minutes before you started, 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.800 I was walking up and I could already hear your 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.640 voice and I was like, as Josh, come on stage early, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.720 but you were playing your new record through the PA 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.680 system and using us as guinea pigs. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:23.080 Totally, absolutely, that's what I was doing. That's called controversy. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.320 It's a punk rock, keyht comedy album that nobody wants 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.240 to touch for some reason. I think it's a hit. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.760 That's great. Comedy is to be a lot in country stuff, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.840 but I don't know anyway. I've recorded over a year ago. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:42.160 That's great. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.320 Is there a song on there about when I arrived, 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.960 there was a song that was referencing like Instagram and 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:48.920 Twitter and stuff like that. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.160 Is that right? Yeah, there's one Facebook for life. It's 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.360 just about I mean, it's a silly story about a 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.920 guy who gets a Facebook message from an old flame 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.200 twenty years later and he's married and it interrupts the 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.600 family flow. Wives haven't none of it. And I'm modern. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.080 I mean, it's it's silly and lighthearted, but it's touching 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.960 on a bigger, greater catastrophe and we'll we'll never say 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.280 goodbye again. It's just such a completely different world now. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.400 Partying is a thing of the past. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:27.440 You know, are you social media fan or you generally 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:28.440 don't want to touch I. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.360 Think it's I mean, it's the best and the worst. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.679 I was kidding yesterday with the Instagram when I said, 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:39.200 y'all ever heard of Instagram? It's killed me. It's it's 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.000 just I wanted to make my I put my handle 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.840 that Josh. I wanted to make it Josh de Pearson 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:49.640 officially sucks at Instagram, but they're too many characters, so 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.640 I made it Josh T Pearson officially rules because I couldn't. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.040 I don't have enough followers to get the actual official thing, 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.200 you know, so maybe y'all should follow me and then 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.560 I could just be official. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.600 You need a blue tick, Come on, people. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.480 I think I think Instagram is really the panopticon of 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.560 the modern age. It's it's like the actual apple, the 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.120 belly of the beast when we're I mean, we're really 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.839 in the midst of creating any species. And the next 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.319 twenty years are going to get You think this twenty 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.240 was crazy, the next twenty you're going to get just 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.640 so wild. I think they put singularity at around mid thirties, 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.520 twenty thirty six, thirty eight, something like that. But it's 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.680 gonna it's going to be a crazy interesting time. And 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.120 I really do think that something like Instagram really is 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.000 biting the apple and tasting, tasting the fruit, and there's 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.760 you have all knowledge of good and evil. You can't 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.720 look away. It's it's really something. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.600 This comedy album that you've written, when and what you 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.640 said you made it? You wrote it about a year ago. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.000 Where were you at that time? Why did you want 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.240 to do make that album? 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.400 Well? I actually i'd been kind of toying with it 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.280 for a few years and writing a lot of silly 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.360 paper stuff. I write all the time. I just never 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.720 put out because I'm Christian, you know. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:04.120 The people. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:10.280 So and when I was at the election in London 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.840 at the what do you call it, American Embassy, and 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.720 I don't know if y'all got the memoum, but Donald 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:22.400 Trump won and a friend invited me, and there's a 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.200 bunch of left wing liberals there, you know, of course, 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.680 because if you're in London anyway, And because of the 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.199 time change, it was like four thirty four in the 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.840 morning when the return started coming in, and all these 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:39.000 liberals have been drinking all day, really delicious wine, and 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.120 they knew that Hillary was gonna win. They just knew that. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.280 They knew that was the reality. And when the reality 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.920 started switching, like oh good god, this cannot be happening, 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.560 it was like night of the Living dead, you know. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.400 And there were just there were like packs of women 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:58.120 in corners weeping, like hands in the air, like this 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.840 cannot be happening. Like, man, this is really getting serious. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:06.120 You know. America just elected a gambling casino owner. His 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.800 sole purpose is to make money off the weakness of 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:13.920 man and have a sort of flesh what do you 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:19.360 call contests with women's based on their aesthetic feeling only 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.199 things that they had nothing to do with anyway. Well, 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.000 this we got to do something about this. And it 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.000 was an interesting response. I'm an American, I really I had 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:29.880 never really felt that before then fell in allegiance to 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.240 it. It wasn't xenophobic or jigorist or anything like that kind 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.000 of until then. It's like, with this information, this confirmed 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.040 bias that we're in with technology is getting really serious, 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.080 where you're just your realities are becoming so separate and 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.719 there's you can't even talk about you can't have a dialogue. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.400 And so part of the controversy stuff was trying to 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.320 use humor as a device just to poke fun at 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.400 all sides, and we need to be able to talk 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.760 about this. Yeah, this is this is serious and kind 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.040 of break down some of the social constructs. There's one 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.640 song and they're really proud of called boy Names Straight, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.600 which is like my my modern version of boy Name Sue. 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.000 And then it's about a Rednick who gets really drunk 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:12.920 one night and he goes to the bar and this 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.920 other Rednick is there and kind of looking at him, 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.440 and he's not really sure what's going on. I think 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.400 he's kind of hitting on him, and they start playing pool, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.199 and he wakes up the next day and he's alone 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.439 in his room and there's broken glass everywhere. His butt's 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:31.480 real sore, and he's sore all over. Sorry kids, and 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.840 Broke Back Mountains playing on his computer on repeat, and 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.320 he has what he calls a Texas Angel crisis. He 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.480 just doesn't know what happens. And there's a little twist 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.480 at the end, really playful and silly, but I really 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.720 think that, you know that old adage, if if you 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.880 want to speak the truth, you got to make him laugh, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.679 you know so, And then something in the last ten 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.000 years are spent more time investing. When I came out 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.600 of that last of the Country Gentleman thing, I've been 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.319 so focused on just introverted to bear and down this 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:06.520 really heavy uh, taking all the energies upon you. And 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.920 I'm trying to turn the corner where I try to 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.880 tap into humor more. And that seemed they say that's 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.240 the hardest art for him. So I don't know if 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.040 I'm getting there, but I think with some of those songs, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.079 I arrived at a good place. And if you can 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.480 make somebody laugh, even if I realize I'm burning down 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:30.280 the whole thing had before, like integrity and stuff. But 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.240 if I can make somebody giggle and feel good, like 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.120 that feels all right. Laughter, It really is the best 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:38.520 medicine and it heals people. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.160 And you go back to Texas often. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.160 Yeah, I've been in Austin for a few years now. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.160 Okay, that's where you're based right now because you live. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.600 Yeah, Austin's not really Texas, but you get to say 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.120 you're from Texas and then be in this little liberal 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.840 bubble where people read books and stuff and eat healthy. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.679 It's awesome. They say, you have Austin and you have 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.000 Texas all around it, and that's the altrue. There's four 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.240 man cities in Texas, Alice, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.840 and they're you know, pretty liberal and urban. Then you 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.079 go ten twenty minutes out and it's just rural stuff. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.240 So it's split down the middle demographically as the rest 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.840 of the country. Houston's I think it just eclipsed Chicago 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.880 for the third biggest city, you know, and we don't 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.520 even think about Houston up and Dallas for worth You forget, 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:27.080 it's in Texas. So it's New York La Houston used 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.280 to be in New York, La Chicago, Houston anyway, somewhere. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.680 There's twenty eight million people in Texas. It's just a 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.840 little bit bigger than France, which I like to remind 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:38.800 French people when I'm there. So Ray, Yeah is Ray? 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.600 How is Texas the days? Because let you say it's. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.920 At yet, it's really hot. It's like forty degrees right there. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.520 It's so hot. That's how people are crazy. It's just 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.520 the weather is relentless, you know, it's like religion, flat 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.920 land with in more of miss skies and then forty 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.400 degree heat, which one hundred for us. That just makes 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.120 you crazy. Yeah, they stay indoors a lot. We use 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:04.840 the air conditioning. God bless America like to provide economy, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.960 you know, generate luck of energy and stuff. I always 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.120 do that thing with my friend's always bitch about gentrification 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.440 and stuff. I don't play devil, not Devil's advocate. I'll 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.440 just I'll use these coin these phrases that are in 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.120 their skill set with gentrification and say, man, this can't 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.160 believe another new thing moved in here. And then I'll say, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.360 like man, I like all this life and this growth, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:31.800 you know, it's nice to see movement, and yeah, people healthy. Anyway, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:36.240 the whole world's flipped over man gentrified. It's really something. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.720 Who's seen lifting experience in the last couple of years. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:45.200 Bless are the rest of you. Where were you then 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:50.000 when I needed to would have another chance to see that? 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:59.360 Maybe that makes us an offer we think that going 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.160 on fumes. I don't know as demands. You know, we 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.200 got offered one gig this year at Primavara, and we 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.720 were so thrilled, honored. Twenty years later, it's just such 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.720 an it's an honor. It's honored to have you all here. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.840 There's no five year plan here. I'm I was not 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.000 surprised to be here at all, and I'm really grateful 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.000 for the joke I say. I'd like to think each 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.360 and every one of you, So if you could just 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:26.560 form a line here on the left, I'd love to. Yeah, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:27.560 we'll do it, how much? 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.360 Yeah? Yeah, where's my chat book? 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.160 I mean, it's only these gigs. It's just we have men. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.560 I mean broke even you know which putting out the remix. 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.680 We worked really hard that year to the remix it 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.920 and extensively on the graphics and stuff, just to kind 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.760 of have it as I originally wanted it with a 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.080 big foldout, and I think we almost broke even It's 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.640 just it's labor, it's love, it's our for artsake, you know. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.680 But we were toying with the idea. I've definitely have songs. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.240 We had finished half of the next record before I 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.120 went a little crazy. But we'll see what's around on 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.720 the bin. I'd like to see what happens with the 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.720 comedy record. Yeah, Like if I could tickle America's fancy 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.240 and like really kind of win them and then you 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.560 sneak up behind him with this really scary ass shit, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:17.199 that'd be awesome. That's crazy. I like when people change, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.159 you know. I just don't know what's coming out next 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.720 in life and in love, and that just keeps it exciting. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.000 But with art too, it would have been selling out 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:27.480 for me to make the same kind of record. I 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.000 have so many heartbreak songs, staggering stuff. But I needed 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.240 to try this other way for a second, just to 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:40.840 kind of burn down myself, to not be stifled or 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.920 drafted by it. But that wasn't your question at all. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:50.280 When Lifting Experience went and played Guy Garvey's Mountdown in 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.439 twenty sixteen. That was obviously your first show in a 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.120 long time. Was it simply the invitation that prompted doing 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:57.800 that again or thinking about it? 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.760 Yeah? And there were men, know, we had enough to 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:03.960 go our separate ways, and they were real soul issues 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.440 involved and were kind of corrupted this section. We were 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.439 at a couple of us. I think it would have 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.960 formed our our nature or spirit that we kept on 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.200 that path. So it was important to call it quits, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.680 I think for the greatest experience in life. And we 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.560 had rounded those corners and dealt with our issues and 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:26.919 we were on speaking terms again and like, yeah, this 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.439 is let's try this. It's fun. And there was the 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.840 offer there because it's a public festival. They had a 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.840 budget that would allow three men and separate states, to 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.920 separate countries, to get together and practice for a couple 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.920 of weeks and then fly us over higher the gear 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:47.440 as international flights and pay for the you know Lee 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:52.000 from Leeds for his him and his marijuana. And we 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.720 had a light guy. Uh. That was awesome. They'd really 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.520 treated us like stars at that little uh at the 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.280 Royal Festival Hall. What's a I love South Maccenter. It's 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.080 one of my favorite. I played all those rooms, so 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.520 it was really nice and I'm glad we pulled it off. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.480 It was a lot of pressure because it's such a boutique, 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.160 little niche band, you know, and we had fallen over 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.720 here in Europe on two thousand and one, but even 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:21.320 in Texas it's just like I know, it's the small demographic, 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.960 So there was a lot of pressure on us to 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.680 play as well as it was in the minds of 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.360 the people from twenty years ago, because it was really 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.520 a special thing, and we realized playing those teams like 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.320 this is really special. We just worked so hard on 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.159 those tunes, beat them up for a year, and just 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.040 put such grace in between the notes, and it was 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.000 really a joy to revisit. It was like time travel 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.240 going back to that place in your head, you. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.080 Know, emotionally. What was that experience like of getting the 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.199 three of you back together. Was it a bit of 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.680 a roller coaster or has it been because you obviously like, say, 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:54.800 you did Primavera this year. 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:59.080 Yeah, it's man, it's neat really buddies and they would 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:00.679 spend a few years to ge this, so it was 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.400 just like with your childhood friends again, and he's doing great. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.080 He's in Portland making wine. That's why I couldn't be 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.520 at these JTP shows. He makes this organic wine. It's 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.359 really delicious, you know, it's really cool without the soul fates. 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.520 There's no hangover. You can just drink it and drink 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.200 and drink it, and then you wake up and you 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:25.040 feel awesome. No one tells me shit, I started smoking 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:29.000 four months ago. It's so stupid. That's quit for ten years. 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.800 It's a terrible drug. It's awesome. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.639 You know what about read editing some today so much. 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.120 I'll tell you what it is. It's that you can 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:40.239 want something more than anything else in the world, like 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.320 twenty times a day and get it, like I want 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.199 more than anything right now, and then you get to 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.800 get it and you get to do that like twenty 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:52.520 times a day, and it's the worst and it's just awful. 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:56.159 They're so bad for you. Where the kids went? You 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.360 always feel guilty you spoken in front of children. It's 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.920 neat how innocence brings out things you shouldn't be done. 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:05.040 You know, I quit drinking for seven years, seven of 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:09.960 the worst years of my life. Mom, I didn't raise 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:16.399 no quitter stupid. Thank you all, Good night. Sorry I 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:17.959 interrupted you again. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.960 You went back and watch the old YouTube videos. I 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.320 did a story lift experience. 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.800 The thing was, it was so long ago. There's like 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.159 no no one had cell phone cameras. There's like so 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.159 little footage, like I don't know what we're playing, and 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.639 they trying to google it. Like there was one video 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.840 from a show in LA and for some stupid reason, 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.800 Thank the good Lord, this guy did a close up 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.840 of my hand for like thirty minutes. He was being artful, 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.240 you know, like this is awesome. It was like, that's 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.639 what that chord was. And here's another thing that's kind 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.760 of interesting, some of the parts because it was so intricate, 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:53.600 so many little parts he played just one time. It 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.600 was you know, composed really specifically. And I couldn't get 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.200 a couple of things. I was playing acoustic running practicing, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.439 and then I couldn't get it until I plugged in 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.440 the pedals. And I guess because the way the synapses 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.120 are connected in the brain, and it would start coming 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.520 back to me because you're hitting all those things at once, 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:16.200 and as we link things together in our mind, as 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.200