1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nolan. They called 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: producer Paul Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: want you to know. Uh. Now we're we're recording at 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: a slightly different time today. I want to check in 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: with you guys. How are you doing. How was your weekend? Well, 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Matt has been off on adventures, as you would say, 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: Ben and Uh, I think we have both missed him 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: very much. Matt, how is your weekend? I know you 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: were playing with some fun new toy. Yeah. I just 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: got these new by neuro Mix. I was running around 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: my house recording some things and yelling and pretending to 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: be a zombie in the exterior on the exterior of 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: my house. So I'm sure my neighbors think I'm insane, 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: but that's that's great. Was there grunting involved? Was there 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: like that? Sounds fun? Dude? Well, I'm glad you occupied 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: yourself productively during your time off. I did good times. 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I missed you guys. Thanks for for you know, holding 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: down the fort while I was away. Well, we saved 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: this episode for you specifically, Matt. This is UH. This 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: topic came to us from an anonymous source. We always 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: talk about our call in line, the various ways you 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: can contact us. So, UH someone called one eight three 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: three st d w y t K recently and left 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: a message that sent us down a bit of a 31 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Yeah, so this person called in after we 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: did I Believe as chem Trails in the UK. We 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: did that episode and this person wrote in to tell 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: us about the topic we're gonna be covering today. Just 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: mentioned it to us, Hey, we should look into it, 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: and what we found was surprising. Yeah. Yeah. You see, 37 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: regardless of where you live nowadays, regardless of where where 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: you reside in UH, in the globe of ours, your 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: local news is probably full of crises. They're both real 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: and imagined, and they're all terrible things, right, That's how 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: that's how news makes money. Some of these UH disasters, 42 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: like the war on Christmas, are more or less you know, 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: seasonal hoaxes. Everybody's hip to it. They're meant to rile 44 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: people up, to make them behave a certain way. Others 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: like COVID nineteen are unfortunately all too real. Today we 46 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: are exploring something that was once upon a time considered 47 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory all its own, and that at is 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: global warming. Over the past few decades, numerous government institutions 49 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: thousands of private entities have been aware of the massive 50 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: threat posed by global warming. And the gist of global 51 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: warming is this. Even tiny changes in our average temperatures 52 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: on Earth's surface or in its atmosphere can have long reaching, 53 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: devastating effects on the world overall. We say small amounts, 54 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: we mean like, uh, five degrees five like that is, 55 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: that is how fragile our existence is. That's the small 56 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: kind of variable that our entire our entire ecosystem depends on. 57 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: Five degrees up, eight degrees up. Things are wild at 58 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: that point. And most people here's the thing. Nowadays, most 59 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: people agree this is a problem. Everyone's aware of it. 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: It should come to come as no surprise, however, that 61 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: no one has proposed a solution that everyone supports. So 62 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: what's going on? I know, I've probably already made a 63 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: couple of people angry in the audience today by saying 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: that global warming is not in fact a conspiracy. But 65 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: let's let's look at it, like, let's look what is 66 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: global warming? What is climate change? Here are the facts? Well, 67 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, climate change is certainly something that 68 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: you can observe. We can definitely see our climate changing 69 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: year over year, it gets hotter, quicker, uh, And it's 70 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: just kind of something that you can very much experience 71 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: with your senses. So, um, I don't understand why it's controversial, 72 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, let's talk about weather versus climate. For example, 73 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: weather refers to localized atmosphere conditions occurring over short periods 74 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: of time, anywhere from a couple of days to just 75 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a few minutes. So things like rain and snow, uh, 76 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: cloud cover, storms, floods. These are examples of weather events. 77 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: They happen and then they're gone over a short period 78 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: of time. Climate is just a pullback view of all 79 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: of that. It refers to a series of these kinds 80 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: of events, patterns that happen over a longer period of time, 81 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: long term regional or even global averages of temperature, humidity, rainfall, patterns, uh. 82 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: These things are seasonal. They happen over seasons, years or 83 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: even decades. So an easy way to think about it 84 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: is if you look outside or you listen in and 85 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: there's a thunderstorm going on, that is your friendly neighborhood weather, 86 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: and that's just how it's going to be. You see 87 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: an oddly rain free weekend and a time when you 88 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: usually see rain, that's also gonna be weather. But let's 89 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: say you're dealing with a year long drought, or let's 90 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: say that the amount of rain that's happening every year 91 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: is decreasing year over year for you know, let's say 92 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: a decade or two, that's gonna be climate and that 93 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: that thing is changing. Yep, this is the issue. I 94 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: think it escapes a lot of people, even people should 95 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: know better. Climate change is the long term change and 96 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: the average weather patterns and the you know, the big patterns, 97 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: the things that define Earth on a local, regional, and 98 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: global climactic scale. Global warming is just that it's like 99 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: a subdivision of it. It's long term heating of Earth's 100 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: climate system. And we've observed this since the pre industrial 101 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: period that would be about you know, the eighteen fifties 102 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: to the early twentieth century, we've observed it due to 103 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: human activities, mainly fossil fuel burning, because fossil fuel burning 104 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: increases the amount of carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone, 105 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: so on, the so called greenhouse gases, and they're called 106 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: greenhouse gases because they trap heat uh in from the 107 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: sun in Earth's atmosphere. It gets you know, it's like 108 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the old roach motel advertisements. You know what I mean, 109 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: The sun energy checks in, but it can't check out 110 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: and and this is uh this is bad for us 111 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: because we have evolved to live in an environment where 112 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: there is not as much greenhouse gas. So when you 113 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: think about climate change and when you think about global warming, 114 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of like how all mazes are puzzles, but 115 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: not all puzzles are mazes. Like how all case das 116 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: are snacks, but not all snacks are case adias. How 117 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: all anime is animated, but not all animation is you know, 118 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: you get it, You get the moving picture here. Then 119 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: I take issue with caseodia being a snack. That is 120 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: an entree, My friend, that is an entree. I don't know, man, 121 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm working live, but agree to disagree 122 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that so so I I you know, I can eat 123 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: like two three. Case Dass said, I may have a problem, 124 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: but the case d is as hide. One of the 125 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: most important differences between climate change and global warming is 126 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: that climate change can occur naturally, and people don't mention 127 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: this enough. It gets wrapped up in all these weird, 128 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: uh conspiracy theories. We have to remember that ice ages 129 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: came and went way before humans started, human being or whatever. 130 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: The thing is that most probably not all changes in 131 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Earth's climate since the early nineteen hundreds that we can 132 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: measure they have been driven by human activity, but there 133 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: were still there were still natural things. They're very important 134 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: part of the story. Well, is is it also a 135 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: matter ban of you know, those ice ages that came 136 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: and went naturally, that was a much longer timeline than 137 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Two When when the human intervention comes 138 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: into the picture, we start to see these things happen 139 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: a little more rapidly in like our lifetime, right, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. 140 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: We have to remember of course that uh, we are 141 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: very much not super important. Humans are very much not 142 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: super important to life on Earth as anything more than 143 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: a threat bill into billions of years past. I say, 144 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: just came a wit volcano is erupted, which that's super cool. 145 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, there were earthquakes that were floods, there were 146 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: tectonic shifts, the continents were in different positions, and then 147 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: we showed up basically a very recently the at like 148 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: the very end, walking in like we own the place. 149 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, those natural changes are things like El Nino, 150 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: uh La Nina and so on, or changes in the 151 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: Sun's output, um, Earth's orbit or uh one of one 152 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: of the coolest, most metal examples, which would be giant 153 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: volcanic eruptions. Yeah, those are great, but those do a 154 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: real number on the atmosphere. They actually naturally do some 155 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: of the things that we're talking about today. Um, humans 156 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: don't have any control over this stuff, but we, like 157 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: all living things on Earth, UM, hope for the best 158 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: and also kind of have a little bit of a 159 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: god complex where we want to figure out how to 160 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: do these kinds of things. Yeah, and you know, when 161 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: you get into some of the climate change debates, one 162 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: of the major argue arguments you're gonna see for climate 163 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: change being a hoax is what we just mentioned here, 164 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: changes in the sun and how much energy is actually 165 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: being emitted from the Sun and at what time and 166 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: what kinds of cycles the Sun goes through compared to 167 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: the cycles that the Earth is going on, and then 168 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: how those two things interact and whether or not global 169 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: climate change is actually just the sun changing. Um, that's 170 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: a debate for a different day. For this episode, we're 171 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: going to take it in or we're gonna take it 172 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: as though that is not the primary thing that is 173 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: affecting the Earth, and how the atmosphere is being affected 174 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: and how the climate is actually changing. Yeah, yes, exactly. 175 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: So so we're gonna talk about or were we are 176 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: thinking about man made things here again, fossil fuels, a 177 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: lot of the methane that that gets up into the 178 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: atmosphere and other gases again up in the atmosphere because 179 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: of factory farming and things like that. Um. But you know, 180 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: as always, the that old black old you know, the 181 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: Texas t that's gonna be one of the main things 182 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: just burning off these things traps that heat because of 183 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: these because of the CEO two and the other things 184 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: that are being released. And this is also uh, I 185 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: don't think it's in the notes, but this is coming. 186 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: This is important. Uh. A lot of developing countries have 187 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: a problem with UH industrial countries or the so called 188 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: quote unquote first world countries UH telling them to practice 189 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: pollution controls because the idea is like, oh, okay, you're 190 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: making us run this race with a backpack of bricks 191 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: because you already you already burned all the coal you needed, 192 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Hydroelectric energy and solar energy 193 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: is all well and good for you guys, but we 194 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to, Like, you couldn't have gotten where you are, 195 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, Western Europe, United Kingdom, US, etcetera, if you 196 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: hadn't been able to just throw all this garbage into 197 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: the sky for you know, a century or more. Did 198 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: you guys ever play the game Age of Empires? Was 199 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: that sort of like a sim city but like with 200 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: like civilization kind of or no, it was more of 201 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: a war strategy game essentially, but it was also civilization building. 202 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: But one of the primary things you have to do 203 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: in that game, and I think it is very telling 204 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: here it's exactly what what civilizations have to do, what 205 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: countries have to do. You have to build up, You 206 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: have to level up essentially your technology, and one of 207 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: the primary steps you have to get to is essentially 208 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: fossil fuel burning the industrial age where you have to 209 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: make enough power to do all the things that you 210 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: need to do to advance further. And yeah, that's exactly 211 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: what you're saying there, Ben. It's just if you if 212 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: you remove that step by making making countries and government's 213 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: control exactly how much admissions they're allowed to put out there, 214 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: then you're really just you're going to handicap them. Yeah, 215 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: it's like we it's like, um, the same people who 216 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: built their fortunes on these sorts of acts, right, this 217 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: kind of energy, are the same institutions that are telling 218 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: other up and comers that they cannot play by the 219 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: same rules and the you know, is it hypocritical? Sure? Yes, 220 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: But also our understanding as a species of the problem 221 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: has changed. We know a lot more about what's going on. Uh, 222 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: we just learned it a little too late. My nihilism 223 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: is probably going to come to the forefront here because 224 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: because there are some consequences, right, we know, we know 225 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: very well the consequences they Science obeys no political party, 226 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: science obeys no religious ideology. Science does not could not 227 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: care less about what you know, what part of the 228 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: world you live in, what you like for breakfast, etcetera. 229 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: There are annual consequences of human created global warming. As 230 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: far as we can tell, they are biblical level, like 231 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Book of Revelations, things like, first off, whether I love 232 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: the way you guys described whether as a function of climate. Right, 233 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: So if the climate is changing, the weather is changing, 234 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: and because this is the real world, those changes are 235 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: not like super awesome, They're not convenient or whatever. A 236 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: warmer climate creates this atmosphere that collects, retains and drops 237 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: more water, but in different places. So wet areas are 238 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: becoming wetter than they should be across you know, the year, 239 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: monsoon season or so on, and dry areas are becoming 240 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: drier than they should be. Floods in Bangladesh pretty soon, 241 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: like within your lifetime. They're going to be parts of 242 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: the world that are uninhabitable because of record breaking heat 243 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, for instance, or in Africa. There's 244 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: just not enough a c forever everybody, and some world 245 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: governments seem to be pretending there is, but they have 246 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: to know better whether in climate effect, agriculture, food supplies, 247 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: wolf Everybody thought it was crazy for those m r 248 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: e s, but they last forever by some Yeah, um, 249 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: there's this concept of climate refugees. This this notion that 250 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: the part of the world where you find yourself and 251 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: could potentially become unlivable. Basically, the closer to the equator 252 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: that you get, the higher the likelihood that your um 253 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: descendants or potentially even you might have to move. Uh. Yeah, 254 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: your your kids could become climate refugees as well as yourself. Um. 255 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: As this stuff, you know, can kind of escalate, and 256 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: as we talked about, the timeline moves pretty quickly when 257 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: human intervention becomes involved. Uh. Sea levels will continue to 258 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: rise as ice caps melt. Um. So say goodbye to 259 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: some of your favorite vacation spots, like like the Maldives 260 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: are where what have you? Um? And then there's you know, 261 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: the issue of wildlife not being able to adapt. We 262 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: know wildlife can adapt, we know that, you know, Uh, 263 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: evolution does occur for changing conditions, but that requires a 264 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: very long timeline. UM. So wildlife can't adapt quickly enough, 265 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: and it can cause extinction events. The human species will, 266 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, um descend into a different 267 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: kind of war, which is the war for resources, a 268 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: different kind of war. Noll. They're all resource wars. Now 269 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm just choking all of them, but most of them. Yeah, yeah, 270 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: I agree. I thought you would, uh, you would pick 271 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: up on that point, especially Met, because we had talked 272 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: for years about, um, what was it? The Third World 273 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: War will be about water. Uh. That's whether it's rising 274 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: sea levels or just not having enough potable water. It's 275 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, guys, we're in one right now, or at least, 276 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, things are sort of leveling out. But there 277 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: was a you weeks or months even where you couldn't 278 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: get toilet paper, you know, and people were losing their 279 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: minds about it. I mean that's just like sort of 280 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: an inkling of how bad things could get. Right. Oh, 281 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: I I actually I did some research off the books 282 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: on that, and I think it I think I have 283 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: an explanation for it, which is pretty interesting. And also 284 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm eighty percent sure it's true. It might be it 285 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: might be for another day, but I think I think 286 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: I figured out at least the toilet paper, and it's 287 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: not because there wasn't enough. It's bizarre, but but yeah, 288 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: we've we've painted these these problems right. First off, to 289 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: your point, whether it's toilet paper or water, well, the 290 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: in the entire human species is just so ready to 291 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: bucket each other at any given point about any given thing. 292 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't even matter right. People of the 293 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: same religion wage religious wars on each other because they 294 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: disagree with the interpretation of one sentence of one chapter 295 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: of an unimportant part of their favorite book. You know 296 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. And maybe I've offended people by saying 297 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: some parts of your favorite book might not be as 298 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: important as others. But the point is this is very bad. 299 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: Human beings are in a bad situation. We're driving headlong 300 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: over a cliff, an existential cliff, and the rest of 301 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: the living things on Earth are sort of in the 302 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: backseat of the car with us, saying where are we going? 303 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: What are we doing? It's up to human beings to 304 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: find the solution to this problem. We have created what 305 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: are the solutions? Will tell you after a word from 306 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and we're back. So yes. In addition to 307 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: creating tons of problems for every living thing on earth, 308 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: our human species has also created a couple of solutions. 309 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: You know, we've been in our writer's room, we've got 310 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: our whiteboard, we've been brainstorming. But first, and this is 311 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: very important, don't let the various misleading discourses. Uh fool you. 312 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: Don't let the people in mainstream news or the weird 313 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: like uh Koke Brothers found funded documentaries, and don't let 314 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: any of that fool you. The experts throughout the planet, 315 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: we're pretty much universally on the same page about global 316 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: warming and have been for decades. And when I say experts, 317 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I do mean I do mean governments, and you know 318 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: I do mean academics. I also mean oil companies like 319 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Exxon XN knew about this. They knew global warming was 320 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: real and that people were doing it way back in 321 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: nineteventy seven, more than like, more than a decade before 322 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: anybody else publicly cared about it. And and they didn't 323 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: tell anybody. Ben they just kept this to themselves. To 324 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: one end, Why wouldn't they tell everybody, Why wouldn't they 325 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: just come screaming this, you know, to the to the 326 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: high heavens. Bad. Well, they were definitely screaming something to 327 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: the public. Was it money or they screaming then? Yeah, 328 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: well they they spent some money on the studies. The 329 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: studies were pretty conclusive. The internal memos confirmed that the 330 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: executives talked about this and how real it was, and 331 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: then they spent millions over the next few decades trying 332 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: to trying to fight any legislation because you see, fighting 333 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: global warming would affect the bottom line of a fossil 334 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: fuel company. Yeah, that's right. And we actually interviewed Amy Westervelt, 335 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: who makes a podcast called Drilled. We we did that 336 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: last year in twenty nineteen, and we went over in 337 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: great detail what these companies knew when they learned it, 338 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: and if you want to check that episode out, please 339 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: go do it now. But one of the major things 340 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: to remember here um been one of the videos we 341 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: were watching in research. This was a Stanford University professor, 342 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: David Keith, and he was speaking about the nineteen sixty 343 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: four academic papers that were coming out where they're discussing, hey, guys, 344 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: there seems to be an issue here. Uh, just raising 345 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: their hands, you know, and just saying, hey, maybe we 346 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: should start thinking about ways we can prevent the Earth 347 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: from warming up too much because it looks like we 348 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: might be having an effect. Um. So, yeah, it's still 349 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: a jump from sixty four to seventy seven or so, 350 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: but seventy seven is pretty early to be aware of this. 351 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: Everybody knew it was a real conspiracy. It was not 352 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. These the same. It's just like, um, 353 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: those senators who were doing insider trading and dumping all 354 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: their stocks while they were telling people not to worry 355 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: about the quote unquote so called pandemic. Right. Uh, the 356 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: oil companies were doing the same thing. The point is 357 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: we could have had a much much earlier headstart. Current solutions. 358 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: Proposed solutions for global warming include things like a carbon tax. 359 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: This is this is something that um, you know, people 360 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: who read the economists, for instance, would really enjoy. The 361 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: gist is that, you know, we make countries or companies 362 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: pay a premium somehow for their carbon emissions or fossil fuels. 363 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: Now you can see, of course, how the developing world 364 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: would say, this is massively unfair. This is you know, 365 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: victimizing the impoverished geo politically, Uh, you know, because it 366 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: is in terms of development, it's it's not a perfect solution. 367 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: And also, uh, you know, companies and entities that are 368 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: at the top, the ones that rule the rest, don't 369 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: tend to pay taxes anyway. Not really. Yeah. Well, the 370 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: other major issue here is that other actions have to 371 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: be taken rather than just you know, uh, monetary incentivising, incentivizing, 372 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: and paying, like having to pay more money if you're 373 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: going to essentially put carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Because 374 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: now it's inevitable that warming is going to happen, and 375 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: it has been for quite a while. Now we have 376 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: to find ways to actually cool like cool it down 377 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: or prevent the warming, or get stuff out of the atmosphere. 378 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: We we have to go to more drastic measures now 379 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: and they are not easy. Yeah, we've been incentivizing alternative 380 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: energy right and one thing that's interesting, Uh, the world 381 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: is recovering right now because people are flying less, they're 382 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: traveling less. There, we're we're producing fewer things. Uh, this 383 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: is actually a record breaking year for alternative energy in 384 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: a couple of places in Western Europe, Like there are 385 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: a couple of countries that have gone completely free from 386 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: coal or have drastically reduced their usage of it. But 387 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: to your point, Matt, even taxing people for fossil fuels, 388 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: even you know, making it cheaper for them to use solar, geothermal, 389 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: hydroelectric energy, that's still not enough. And so the question 390 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: is what if we tried something else, Because there's another 391 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: answer here, just just maybe just maybe remember those epic 392 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: giant volcanic eruptions. What if what if we could just 393 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, do that. Here's where it gets crazy. Yeah, well, 394 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: and the reason why we would want to do that 395 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: is because it actually has a cooling effect, a measurable 396 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: cooling effect anytime a giant volcano explodes. So the mimicking 397 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: the that we're talking about here, it's it's a thing. 398 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: It's real. It's a proposed solution or part of a 399 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: proposed solution to global climate change. And it's called stratospheric 400 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: aerosol injection. Oh boy, uh, it's it's certainly well, let's 401 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: say at this point it is a theoretical solution, but 402 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: it is a it is a geoengineering technique that could 403 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: possibly happen in the near future in a way to 404 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: combat man made temperature rise on planet Earth. Right, Like, 405 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: geo engineering is sort of a blanket term for things 406 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: like that could include everything from cloud seating. This this 407 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: notion of you know, changing the weather um through science um. 408 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: And this is just you know, one of of numerous 409 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: techniques and technologies, some more theoretical than others, but this 410 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: one does seem to be you know, something that could 411 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: absolutely be implemented, and so geo engineering in terms of 412 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: like you know, cooling the Earth's temperatures. There's two kind 413 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: of big paths that that that you could go down. 414 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: The first would be this concept of sucking up all 415 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: of the kind of sc scattered CEO two particles in 416 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: greenhouse gases that are already in the atmosphere, sort of 417 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: hoovering them up um. And then the second would be 418 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: solar radiation management um i e. Affecting the way the 419 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: Sun's rays interact with the atmosphere. And that is absolutely 420 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: where s AI comes in. And s AI stands for 421 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: stratospheric aerosol injection. Uh not the not the you know, 422 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: catchiest of terms. It sounds a little technical, and it 423 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: should because it is. But it's pretty wild. Okay, are 424 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: we talking about impersonating volcanoes? Yes, kind of. But the 425 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: walk with us here, you know, let us finish the pitch. 426 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: What if we took a ton of balloons, right, or 427 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: airships or drones or planes or you know what, missiles, 428 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: why not artillery and we just sent them up in 429 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: the stratosphere to release soul fates into the air. To 430 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the point about cloud seating. This is something This is 431 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: a similar to the stuff that the government of China 432 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: and the government of the United States, as well as 433 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: the government of the United Kingdom have all done in 434 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: the past. With cloud seating, you disperse I believe it's 435 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: silver iodide and the idea is that it will attract 436 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: moisture droplets so you can form clouds. Cloud seatings all 437 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: about forming clouds. Orgone Energy is all about busting clouds. 438 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: You can check out both of those episodes for more information. 439 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: But we would we would be doing this on a 440 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: much larger scale and a much higher scale. Yeah, literally 441 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: literally to what you were saying earlier, Matt. Volcanoes do 442 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: this naturally. When they erupt, they shoot tons of aerosol 443 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: part goals into the air and they create something that 444 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: is known as global dimming. The particles released by volcanoes, 445 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: if the volcano was large enough uh for a time, 446 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: they run a sort of scrimmage line of filter between 447 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: the Earth's surface and the sun. They reduce the amount 448 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: of light and heat that enters the atmosphere. So you 449 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: can see the logics start to form here, right, and 450 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: s Ai is going to try and mimic this by 451 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: delivering sulfide gases the same kind of stuff, sulfur dioxide, 452 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: hydrogen sulfide, sulfuric acid way up. But we're talking around 453 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: sixty thou feet into the air. It's the mesosphere and stratosphere, 454 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: and we currently don't We're going to talk about this, 455 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: but there's no real good way to do that at 456 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: sixty feet right now. We'll get into that. But the 457 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: research shows that if we could do this effectively and enough, 458 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: this would or could at least count or changes to 459 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: temperature as well as temperatures in the oceans, change the 460 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: water temperature back to a place where animals could live, 461 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, instead of just die with the ocean of 462 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: cidification and all the other things that are happening. Um. 463 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing too. It's not like this 464 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: would be a crazy slow process. You shoot all this 465 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: stuff up into the stratosphere and then you gotta wait 466 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: and wait and wait. No, it would happen pretty quickly 467 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: if we did it right. So you're saying we should 468 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: pump sulfuric acid up into the sky. Is that is that? Was? That? 469 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Is that what I'm getting here? Yeah? Not not you 470 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: like the uu I mean the you of science or 471 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: whoever is saying this, that sounds that sounds like there 472 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: could be some issues. We're gonna blot out the sun, knill, 473 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: So why haven't we done it? Right, that's the question. 474 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Why haven't we? You know, I don't know about you, guys. 475 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm sold. Why haven't we just shot a ton of 476 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: of sulfur dioxide s A two hydrogen sulfide sulfuric acid 477 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: into the sky. I mean, God knows, we're putting out 478 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: plenty of pollution as it is. What's a little more. Uh, 479 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: let's answer that question because spoiler alert, it turns out 480 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: there are some issues with stratospheric aerosol injection, and we'll 481 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: explore them after a word from our sponsors. Al Right, 482 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: we know what you're thinking, right. First off, what's the 483 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: bottom line? Right you're saying, you're saying, Matt Michigan troll. 484 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: Noell Ben, let's talk turkey. Obviously this isn't happening because 485 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: it's crazy expensive. Well, we have some weird news for you. Yeah. 486 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: Strangely enough, it's uh not that expensive because you know, 487 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: we kind of mentioned this earlier in the show. It's 488 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: pretty low tech. Ultimately, I mean, you know, it involves 489 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: planes or drones or balloon or airships or what have you, 490 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: But it's stuff that we already have, and we could 491 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: even use um artillery, We could actually fire these chemicals 492 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: up into the atmosphere. UM the chemicals are super easy 493 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: to obtain, So that's that's not really an issue at all. 494 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: I think I saw some I mean, it's you know, 495 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: it's not like this has been like you know, spreadsheeted 496 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: out exactly yet, but I saw somewhere it would be 497 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: only be in the handful of billions of dollars, not 498 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: like the trillions. You know. It would definitely be costly 499 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: in terms of like you know, you or I money, 500 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: but in terms of government big brother money, it's kind 501 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: of a drop in the bucket. Well, so okay, maybe 502 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: maybe my understanding is is off here. The way I've 503 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: been thinking about this from some of the writing was 504 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: that it would take years right now as of right now, 505 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: it would take years to engineer a plane that would 506 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: be needed two to make these like um to chem 507 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: trail style seed this stuff out there into the atmosphere. 508 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: Because of the the altitude that the planes would have 509 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: to the jets would have to operate at and because 510 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: you're there. My understanding is around sixty thousand feet is 511 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: where you need to put the stuff, all these chemicals, 512 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: and then you would have to make constant runs. Basically, yeah, 513 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: you would have a fleet of enough planes that are 514 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: just going up there. I don't know the exact frequency, 515 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: but let's say, just for sake of argument, every day. Um. 516 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: And they would also have to carry enough of a 517 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: payload at sixty feet to actually make it worth the trip. Well. 518 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: And and I don't mean to imply that it would 519 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: be like, yes, we're ready to roll with this yesterday, 520 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: but I mean, the basis of the technology exists. It 521 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: would obviously require some retrofitting to you know, would do 522 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: You'd end up with some kind of hybrid vehicle somewhere 523 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: between a regular plane and like a spacecraft because you 524 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: it would need to have some of those protections to 525 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: be able to go to that altitude. But the chemicals 526 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: are available, the technology, the basis of it. You don't 527 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: have to reinvent the wheel. We just kind of have 528 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: to improve it a little bit to make it happen. 529 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: One thing that I think is this is something where 530 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you, fellow conspiracy realists. The 531 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: science here is looking pretty sound, but we as global community, 532 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: we as a species, are still kind of in the 533 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: brainstorming phase. So if you have an idea about how 534 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: this was about, how best to uh deliver this, if 535 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: you're in favor of it, which not everybody is, then 536 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: let us know, you know, hit us up conspiracy at 537 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: I heart radio dot com or any of the various 538 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: ways you want to find us. Uh. You know, our 539 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: Facebook page will probably blow up with weird threads about this. Yeah, 540 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're both right here. It's it's not 541 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: super expensive. The technology exists, it needs tweaking because, for instance, 542 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, one of the first things I thought about 543 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: was what about recoverable i c b M S intercontinental 544 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: ballistic missile. Some of those can go, uh could function 545 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: high enough, but they don't have uh at least them 546 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: where they don't have the seating kind of apparatus, Right, 547 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: they can't really be the crop dusters for the stratosphere 548 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: that we need. So it's like we do have all 549 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: the technology, but we don't have it all in the 550 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: in the one thing we need. Right, we have some 551 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: stuff they can do, uh task a. We have some 552 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: stuff they can do task B. We need something that 553 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: can just do the alphabet of the task in a 554 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: one stop shop. Uh. And yeah, to your point, you 555 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: know we we can make or obtain the chemicals. Uh, 556 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: this is so weird. Reminds me of the Mr. Show 557 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: sketch about blowing up the moon because they figured out 558 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: they could do it, and and we we figured out 559 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: we could do it. But here's the problem. So if 560 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: we know that theoretically we're really close to being able 561 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: to do this, the technology is there, we just need 562 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: to get the perfect remix. We have to ask ourselves 563 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: how efficient will it be? What will the efficacy be? 564 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: Will this actually work? And this is a big sticking point. 565 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: It's something we talked a little bit about, Uh in 566 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: the course of today's episode. Those chemicals s O two 567 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: and and all, it's the rest of its entourage. Uh. 568 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: They're short lived, and that's a good thing for the 569 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: bulk of human history because that's that's the reason that 570 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: a volcanic eruption, even a massive one, doesn't put us 571 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: out of the game forever. That's the reason why we're 572 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: not living in some horrible, a different kind of horrible situation. Uh. 573 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: The aerosol chemicals. There can only be where we really 574 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: need them to be for a couple of weeks, maybe 575 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: one or two months, and we would have to be 576 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: And that's if we're certain that the particles are the 577 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: right size. That makes a huge difference. And that's also 578 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: why we would have to institute a program. So like 579 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: that number eighteen billion is kind of a is kind 580 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: of a watermark we hear as a get started, right 581 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: to get started number, I just want to say, for 582 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: the record, Jeff Bezos, if you're listening, I see that 583 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: now as of May eighteen, your net worth is over 584 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: and estimated uh forty billion dollars. Uh. And if we 585 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: call this kind of earth saving bond villain working for 586 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: good project twenty billion dollars, then that means you, Jeff alone, 587 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: can do this seven times. You can you can attempt 588 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: to save the world in this way seven times. But 589 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing among many things and sticky parts of 590 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: this whole concept. I mean, it would require like global consensus, right, 591 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: like I mean it would it would to do it 592 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: in a way that benefit at everyone and like a 593 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: single unilateral kind of like you know, implementation of this. 594 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: It would require the kind of U N level cooperation 595 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: that we just don't really typically see. And also, uh 596 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: again this is this is very new, I mean not 597 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: super new, but like new in the scale of civilization 598 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: new uh technology and this concept. Um. So I've read 599 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know, varying opinions about this, 600 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: And one thing that I've read is that it wouldn't 601 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: be a one size fits all for all regions. Like 602 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: there would be potentially regions that would not benefit from this, 603 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: and it could be actually harmed by this and could 604 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: harm agriculture in certain regions. And this thing could like 605 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: you know benefit uh, you know, certain areas of the country. Um. 606 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: And then there are other areas that it could actually 607 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: harm in terms of like their normal you know, um 608 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: levels of agricultural output that it could really you know, 609 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: have a have a negative effect on that. Have you 610 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: guys seen anything about about these uh, these issues for sure? 611 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: In the American meter Meteorological Society put out a statement 612 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: in twenty ten, yes, where they talked about some of 613 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: these issues, and you know, similarly to other major hard 614 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: problems that are out there, they basically were saying, hey, 615 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: we need more research on all of this stuff. The 616 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: potential for everything. We need to study historical, ethical, legal, 617 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: and social implications that this geo engineering could have across 618 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: the planet in different places, and we need to develop 619 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: and uh analyze policy options. So basically, it's it's the 620 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: same thing that we've seen, uh time and time again 621 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: for decades now when it comes to hard problems like 622 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: like climate change, and it's everybody doesn't want to deal 623 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: with it while they're in office. That's what it feels 624 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: like to me. I mean, the Meteorological Society is correct 625 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: that we need any more research. We need way more 626 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: information on this before we act. But if we don't 627 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 1: act soon in some major way, what do we do it? 628 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: It's already too late. It's just it's a tough thing. Um. 629 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: Just last thing, here's David David Keith. I got it wrong. 630 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: I said, I think I said he was with Stanford. 631 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: He spoke at Stanford. He's from the University of Calgary. 632 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: That's that's my bad. Sorry about that, Professor Keith. Yeah, 633 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: he's got a it's got a great, great lecture on this. 634 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: It runs a little more than an hour, but if 635 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: you're interested in it, he goes through the different angles. 636 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: He's really spent spent some time on the cognitive road 637 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 1: with this one. I do want to mention too that, 638 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: like many macro level changes global proposed changes. First off, yes, obviously, 639 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: as you know long time listeners, human beings cannot agree 640 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: on anything, and the greater good is a very dangerous 641 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: sub objective kind of raw shack ink blot uh. And 642 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: so we know we know that humans probably won't cooperate. 643 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: I think to your point, Matt, it's especially instructive to 644 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: look back over, you know, uh, the weakness of democracy. 645 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: And now I'm not arguing for authoritarianism or fascism or whatever, 646 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: but I will point out that we've seen time and 647 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: time again. You know, people who are elected for two 648 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: four or six years tend to focus on things that 649 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: will show results within two four to six years. You're 650 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: not gonna if you're if you're a president asking someone 651 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: to uh to sacrifice literally anything about their life because 652 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: it will be better in twenty five years, You're probably 653 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: not going to get reelected. And it doesn't it really 654 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you believe, how right or wrong you are. 655 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: People are like, hey, buddy, I elected you for two 656 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: four to six years, and that is the metric upon 657 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: which you are being graded. We're just you know, as humans, 658 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: we just suck at this kind of stuff. So I 659 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: don't even think it's corporations necessarily being insidious. We're just 660 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: very it's the tragedy of the commons, right, we're very, 661 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: very bad at right at allowing other people to exist, 662 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: whether there are people who are alive at the same 663 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: time as us, whether there are people who inherit the 664 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: earth we leave behind, and that's like that that goes 665 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: across the board. I'm sorry, there's not a person alive 666 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 1: who doesn't have a problem with that is the solution. 667 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Then that we is the solution. Then some kind of 668 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: world government, some kind of AI that says, hey, look, uh, 669 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, we know that this is going to hurt 670 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: people in parts of the world. Uh you know, specifically, 671 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: we know this is going to hurt some very disadvantaged 672 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: people who don't have the infrastructure or the technolog oology 673 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: to deal with the famine that we would be creating. 674 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: We would be creating this. We know that volcanic eruptions, 675 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: uh like volcanic eruptions have been linked to famine in 676 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: the ninety nineties. Because of that global dimming, the crops 677 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: don't grow, and this is just gonna exacerbate the horrific 678 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: living conditions for some people who are already living in 679 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: dire straits right now without without any s AI and 680 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: volcanic eruptions you know, leading to famine are just are 681 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: just one example of the delatorious side effects that would occur. 682 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: You know, the thing about this is we're essentially we're 683 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: shooting stuff into the atmosphere, and that stuff, even if 684 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: it's very tiny, is still at the whims of gravity. 685 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: That means that these particles, depending on how they are 686 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 1: distributed or dispersed, could return to Earth's surface, and if 687 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: they do, they can worsen existing medical conditions. They can 688 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: they if you have asthma, you want to stay away 689 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: from these chemicals, but imagine if they just start raining 690 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: down on you and then you know, it's all about placement. 691 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: It could be good for us for a little while 692 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: if we get the right size particles in the right place, 693 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: but if we put them in the wrong place, like 694 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: if we put them in a stratospheric clouds earth s polls, 695 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: they could damage the ozone layer, which does you know, 696 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: which has been having a hard time lately in general, 697 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: and not to mention that it could potentially reduce global 698 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: rainfall around the world, especially in the summer when you've 699 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: got these monsoon seasons. Um. And there's some pretty solid 700 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: scientific evidence that links volcanic eruption to famine and Ethiopia 701 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: in the nineties. So maybe not the best move to, 702 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, approximate the effects of tons of volcanic explosions, um, 703 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: because who knows what the side effects could be. It 704 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: really does feel like, you know, the way things are 705 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of fast tracked through, like FDA approval, and then 706 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we realize what the side effects 707 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: are once it's actually out there in the world, and 708 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to put those badgers back in 709 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: those those bags. UM. So I don't know, it's it's 710 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: I always am concerned with Uh oh, let's just give 711 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: it a try. Let's just shoot it up there and 712 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: see what happens, you know. I I feel like there 713 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: definitely needs to be more research. What we need is 714 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: a giant vacuum that just sucks all the CEO two up, 715 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: or it needs to be an ionized pull of some 716 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: sorts that's attached to a plane, you know, like and 717 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: just gets all the CEO two, you know, like a 718 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: shop back whoop, never mind, suck it remember from the office. 719 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: Never mind I remember. And um, you know, you can't 720 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: deny that this s a I or any of this 721 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: geo engineering stuff is really just a band aid, and 722 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: it's just kind of a quick fix so that we 723 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: don't have to think on a longer timeline, which you know, 724 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: governments and uh incorporate well government specifically been to your point, 725 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: have proven pretty incapable of doing. I mean, even the 726 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: current situation we find ourselves in with COVID nineteen, we 727 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: see the government just kind of like wringing their hands 728 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: and pulling their hair out with even attempting to think 729 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: about things more than two weeks out in the future. 730 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems, you know, absolutely mind boggling 731 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: to think about something on as long a timeline as 732 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: climate change requires. Uh. And and that's why you start getting, 733 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 1: you know, this rhetoric around the idea that it's not real, 734 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: that it's some kind of hoax and it really is 735 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: just kind of an excuse to not do anything about it. Uh. 736 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: And that is exactly what this technology would be, as 737 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: an excuse to not do anything about it. Like, I 738 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: like that phrase. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a new space 739 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: age way of kicking the can down the road. Huh. 740 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: So it's interesting too, because what we're telling you is 741 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: that despite all of the people who have you know, 742 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: pooh pooh the idea of kim trails or said, you know, 743 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: I am a skeptic, chim trails do not exist. This 744 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: is our what second episode in a few months, proving 745 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: that things like chim trails are very much on the 746 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: in the front of the mind of the of certain 747 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: areas of the scientific community. This is chim trail proposal essentially. 748 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: And you know, Matt, I cannot read your mind because 749 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: we are recording virtually here, but I do. I was 750 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: thinking of you, uh during the research for this, and 751 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: I have to ask you, does this not sound just 752 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: a little bit like what humans did in the Ai 753 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: Battle that that like proceeds the events of the Matrix 754 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: they ot out the sun. Yes, it sounds exactly like that. 755 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: In fact um in that movie, they blot out the 756 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: sun because all the machines use solar energy. Right, that's 757 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 1: the whole concept there. In our case, we're just trying 758 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: to blot out the sun to make it a little 759 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: less hot, just a little bit. Um. Yeah, but when 760 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: they do that in the matrix, don't the machines adapt 761 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: and figure out how to like harvest energy from like 762 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: human spines and brains. Yes, isn't it just like a 763 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: band aid that creates a much much worse situation. Not 764 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: to put too fine a point on it now, as 765 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: large as an impact of that movie had on me, uh, 766 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: it is just a movie, guys, But it feels like 767 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe a bad call because it made most of the 768 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: surface of the Earth uninhabitable to humans. Um if because 769 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: it got out of hand essentially I'm imagining or well, no, 770 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: in that movie, it was an extreme case, right where 771 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: they actually wanted to do all the giant volcano explosions 772 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 1: to blot out the sun. And in our case, we're 773 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: trying to do a moderate number of giant volcanic explosions 774 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 1: controlled over time through aerosol injection. So really, guys, there's 775 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: nothing to worry about. We're fine, we should just do it. 776 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: Why not, you know what I mean? Yippi ka a right, 777 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: let's hop on the bomb and doctor Strange love it 778 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: down into uh down into fame. Guys. If if I 779 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: may just do a little sarcasm alert here. Sarcasm alert, 780 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: please do not read the things been in matches said 781 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: as there as them speaking their hearts. That is all correct, 782 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: but there's also well to an extent at least, but 783 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: there's also like, um, you know, there seems like there 784 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: could be something here. We just don't know enough yet. Um, 785 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: I would say, in my gut says, it feels like 786 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: a bad idea, but we have to do something, and 787 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 1: maybe this is way to at least attempt to tackle 788 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: the problem. Maybe it gives us a little more time 789 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: to figure out an actual solution, if it. I mean, 790 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: that's why, that's why, um we use the phrase band 791 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: aid so often. Right. Uh. The idea is, I that 792 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, if all things go well, which they never do, 793 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: we will be able to fix something. We'll be able 794 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: to find a permanent solution, or at least give our 795 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: our species and life on Earth here a chance to 796 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: move beyond this planet into the stars, which is or 797 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: a different dimensions, etcetera. But moving into the stars is 798 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: ultimately the goal of life on Earth, right, That's what 799 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: we've been kind of working for. That's our big next season, 800 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: if we survive one note on this. Experts believe that 801 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: if we do practice stratospheric aerosol injections, it will affect 802 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: the color of the guy won't darken it the way 803 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: that the humans and the matrix did. It will actually 804 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: lead to something called sky whitening. Uh, Sunsets will be 805 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: more colorful, you will. It'll be the kind of change 806 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: that you can walk outside and notice. So one of 807 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: the questions I think a lot of people are wondering, 808 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: is is this already happening? Um good news? Maybe not yet. 809 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 1: We would probably know whether this is the case if 810 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: it was, because there would be visible changes. It would 811 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: have to to the point we've made a couple of 812 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: times that it would have to be an all at 813 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: one situation. It would have to be global, right, Like 814 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 1: you could do cloud seeding um the way that Uncle 815 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: Sam did in Southeast Asia, and you could create regional floods. 816 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: But if you try to practice s AI in one 817 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: region of the world, it probably wouldn't do much. And 818 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: if it did something, it wouldn't be very helpful. Right, 819 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 1: So that's the even bigger question. Should we do this well? 820 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: I would I would propose to you this Ben because 821 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: of the amount of scientific research that's been going into this. 822 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: The number of articles, scholarly articles you can find on 823 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 1: this subject, there are several, because there are several startups, 824 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: like tech startups that are trying to come up with 825 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: a way for this to be able to happen, at 826 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: least starting from the United States and then moving outward. Um, 827 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: it feels like maybe there are some tests going on 828 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: or some tech being developed in the background, like for 829 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: those planes for instance, that we were talking about, the 830 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: ones that have to go to very high altitude. I 831 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: would suspect that there's testing going on now, but that 832 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: the actual full on spraying is not happening for sure. 833 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: So what do you think should this happen out of 834 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: full scale knowing that we will you know, if if 835 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: Earth somehow agrees to do this, we make this a 836 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: priority we agreed to. We say, okay, the almost eight 837 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: billion of us are going to collectively impersonate volcanoes. We're 838 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: gonna do it, you know, like every couple of months, 839 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: just to give us some more time to not destroy ourselves. 840 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: But we know that we are going to be killing 841 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: um many people along the way. We're just not going 842 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: to be killing everybody. Is that the right thing to 843 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: do is Spock right when he says the needs of 844 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: the many outweigh the needs of the few. Uh, is 845 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: this a true case of greater good? And if if 846 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: that's not the solution, then what is we want to 847 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: hear from you? You can find us. We're all over 848 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: the internet. In most places we are conspiracy stuff. Sometimes 849 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff show. I believe that's Instagram. You can, uh, 850 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, contact us on all those places. Tell us 851 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: what you think. You can check out. Here's where gets crazy. 852 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: It's our Facebook community page. Check that out. You can 853 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, talk with other fellow conspiracy realists about this 854 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: episode and others and make suggestions. You can also give 855 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: us a call. You can absolutely give us a call. 856 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: We are one eight three three st d w y 857 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 1: t K. That is basically a direct line to Matt 858 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: Frederick's personal cell phone device. UM where he uh he 859 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: is He's awaiting your call. That's right. I sit here 860 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: patiently waiting for you to ring patiently. No, it's not. 861 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 1: It actually goes to all of us. But Matt has 862 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: been just an absolute champion of this line um and 863 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: and has been known to give people a ring back occasionally. 864 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: So I I pitched this as a as a feature. 865 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: I know Matt might pitch it as a bug, but 866 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a positive thing. If you give him out, 867 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: if you give us a call, you might just get it. 868 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 1: Follow up from our boy, Matt Frederick. Is that a cane? 869 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 1: Ben Bolan? What is that that I'm looking at? Umbrella? 870 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you asked, Matt. It's actually, uh, my trustee. 871 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't even see it. It's my trustee Kane Sword. 872 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't take it to the airport, but 873 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's fun to walk around with. Uh. And 874 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 1: if you are a fan of segways to an email address, Boy, 875 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: do I have some news for you. You can contact 876 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: us seven any old time of day or night, even 877 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: if the sky changes color on you. We are conspiracy 878 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: at iHeart radio dot com. Stuff they don't want you 879 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: to know is a production of I Heart Radio. 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