1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Into the uptop for the touchdown. Hollywood Crowns been. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 3: Spectacular, Connor to the five and end of the ends. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: One for the touchdown. Welcome to Cardinals Underground presented by 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacificoffice dot com. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: Problem solved touchdown, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 4: All that was nasty right there? 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Rights the latest news and notes from the insiders who 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: cover the teams. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 4: Balling, Break it on, break it on. 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: Swim to the ground. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: By Budda Baker like a torpedo. He came flying into 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvc. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna ignore the fact that I see 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: some freshly printed paper, especially in front of Danny Sirek, 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna focus more on the fact that this 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: week marks American craft Beer Week. See that's my happy place, 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: American Craft Beer Week. 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: Cars were you're happy? 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Well that too. Sure there's room for more than one 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: as opposed to what I'm sensing as a new Bingo 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: card in front of at least one of you. 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: I wish it were a new Bingo card. Paul, However, 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: you have not been giving us all to work with 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. So this is only this 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: is not new. This is this might be technically the 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: third Bingo cardit know one number one, but no, this 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: is I'm still I have two away that I could 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: win with. So no, it's the same bingo card. So 33 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 3: if you're feeling generous, if. 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: I want to be blamed for everything that's wrong, I'll 35 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: just go home. Okay, I don't need it here on 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: Cardinals Underground brought you by Pacific Office Automation. Danny Surrek, 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Darren Urban, Paul Kelvey c Darren. By the way, how 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: did Mother's Day go? Your edict in the household where 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: you were not responsible for your wife's skift? Was that upheld? 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it worked out fine. Took the family out. 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: I took my mom out on Saturday, and I took 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: my wife out with the boys the adult children on Sunday. 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: So I did my part. 44 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: Danny's also critical of her dad and and some. 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: Of Oh no, no, no, Paul, No, no, no, no, no, Paul, 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: She's not okay. 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm bringing it up because guess what. My daughter 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: was critical of me when I suggested a gift idea. 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: And I'll reveal my gift idea might be in my 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: own demise and expense. But I was thinking, you know, 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: something practical, boy, a packet of car washes, like the 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: gift certificates for car washes. That's what I was thinking, 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: so she could take her her daily driver through the 54 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: car wash. I was thinking about giving a pack of 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: car washes, so it'd be you know, it's boom, it's turkey, 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: it's prepaid. You just pull in, you give the guy 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: this certificate or the card or whatever. It's prepaid. 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: And no, my dear, here's this vacuum for your mother's 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: take and. 60 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: My thigh, scene's not a vacuum. Come on. And my 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: thirteen year old daughter, she reacted like it was a 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: vacuum or a or some sort of kitchen appliance and 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: immediately shut me down. And so I felt shame. It was, 64 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: it was a low moment. It was, it was not good. 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: And now my confidence is rattled going forward for any 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: sort of gift mind Now, my. 67 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: Dad did very well this year with a gift for 68 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: my mom. He got her kindle. She's a very big reader, 69 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: and we're going on a big trip this summer as 70 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: a family, so that was a great gift he did, 71 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: I think very wisely listened to some suggestions from my sisters, 72 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: but it was my mom loved her gift, was very 73 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: surprised and very excited about it. And it was funny 74 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: because I was actually home in Dallas over the weekend 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: for Mother's Day and my nephew's birthday, and I was 76 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: talking to my parents because my dad listens to Cardinals Underground, 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: and I was talking to him about the discussion we 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: were having about whether or not the husband should get 79 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: the wife a Mother's Day gift and vice versa if 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: you have adult children. And we were going through this, 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: and my mom was sitting in the room with us, 82 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: and she goes, yeah, I would have been fine if 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: you didn't get me a gift, but I really liked 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: the gift you got me, so I'm glad you did, 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: she said to my dad. I was like, Okay, I 86 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: guess that answers out. If they had microphones on this podcast, 87 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: that would have been an answer. 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: All right, Darren, Yes, what is the gift that keeps 89 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: on giving when it comes to this lineup for today's 90 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: edition of Cardinals Underground? Is there anything that stands out 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: to you? I'll defer to you off the top here, 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: anything you you consider front burner, so you use an 93 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: old newspaperman turned above the fold. 94 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: I'm surprised you didn't go right to the punter there, Paul. 95 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: You know I'm getting unfairly profiled over here as Polly punter. 96 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: Craig Griolo just incessant, non stop with the punter snark, 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: and now Darren sets in on it. 98 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: You know, speaking of Craig, that is that it is 99 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: a great thing to bring up here before we get 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: too wayward here. Craig Grieliu our fine cohort, also avid 101 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: listener of Cardinals Underground. He too, like myself, could not 102 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: understand why Danny had such a hard time wrapping head 103 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: around last week's discussion where I said, all right, if 104 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 4: you had to theoretically bet your paycheck on who is 105 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: gonna and she couldn't. Not only did she not want 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: to bet this theoretical paycheck, but like she kept saying, 107 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 4: she wouldn't just give us those quotes. 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: I did give you a name. I said, DJ. Humphreys 109 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: was the only one I was truly confident about. 110 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: But you didn't want to go there. It was you 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 4: struggle to get there. 112 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: To say that I would be willing to give him 113 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: a paycheck. Yes. 114 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: We did conclude though that you count on one hand, right, Yes, 115 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: once you get beyond a handful, yes, I think so right. 116 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so unsettled at this point. I mean, 117 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm envisioning some sort of headline. You know, we don't 118 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: even know the punter. You know. No, Well, it's a 119 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: legitimate competition, is it not. Matt Hawk against Nolan Cooney 120 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: is a legit or is it not? 121 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: Is it a great question? 122 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: Add him to your list of who you're going to 123 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: keep an eye out for on training camp. 124 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. So for that we need more 125 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: than two hands, Danny, just go ahead. It's in the 126 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: thought bubble. You can just say go ahead, my you do. 127 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: You didn't appreciate it. There were several things she did appreciate, 128 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: including my powerpole of undrafted rookies. There were too many 129 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: in the power pole apparently. 130 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: Do you think I mean Matt Hawk at least has 131 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: extensive experience, with which Nolan Cooney does not. But I 132 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: don't know if that necessarily means it's an absolute out 133 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 4: and out competition. We'll have to see. 134 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: I mean, my understanding is Nolan Cooney's here for a 135 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: reason that Jeff Rogers is a fan. He likes the 136 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: skill set. 137 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: He's been around before. 138 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: Yep, And so we'll see. We're not going to see 139 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: Andy Lee apparently, who started last season as one of 140 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: only two players who were forty plus years of age. 141 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: It was Tom Brady and Andy Lee and Andy Lee gandhy, 142 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: same draft class, same alma mater as Larry Fitzgerald. 143 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: Correct, that is correct. 144 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. But yeah, Matt Hawk, I'm just 145 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: looking at it real quick. Here in ninety eight regular 146 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: season games. So you like that he's experienced. He's known 147 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: for putting punts inside the twenty. He excels in that. 148 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: He's almost always been top ten league in that category. 149 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: He's a Sun devil. 150 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: He's a Sun devil. So you know, he's punting in Buffalo, 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: he's punting in Miami, so he's dealt with all sorts 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: of weather. And Okay, we'll see, we'll see exactly what Trent, 153 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: But you know what, that's it is entirely enough punter talk. 154 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: I don't that's again true. I don't want to feed 155 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: into the perception or stereotype of yours, truly, that's fair. 156 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: Getting back to that earlier discussion about you know, the 157 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: whole fifty two card pick up, you know, I envision 158 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: that sort of a that sort of headline is coming 159 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: at some point in training camp as they're trying to 160 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 2: figure out who's starting. Where. Did you see the NFC 161 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: wes projected starters for the twenty twenty three NFL season 162 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: on NFL dot com. I did not know some of 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: the NFL dot Com writers, in this case Greg Rosenthal, 164 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: they went through and projected the starting lineup as they 165 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 2: see for each team. 166 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: We can't do it, and we're around this team every day. 167 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: But these guys that are sitting in LA are going. 168 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: To it just like week one, Like he won't have 169 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray or is this assuming everyone's healthy. 170 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: In fact, the opening line in the article going along 171 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: with a depth art was, and I quote, I can't 172 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: believe Colt McCoy will be the Week one starter. Fifth 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: round rookie Clayton Tune is the next option on the roster. 174 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: Maybe this could be a Teddy Bridgewater landing spot. Nopele 175 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: that resonate and hang in the air for a minute. 176 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: See this is this is the thing is like, why 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: why would they sign Teddy Bridgewater? That's I don't see 178 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: that happening to you. 179 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: No, I do not. I do not. 180 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: You've got you've got three veteran quarterbacks besides Kyler Murray 181 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: and a rookie quarterback. They're not signing any more quarterback. 182 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there's the only the only way I could 183 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: see that happening is if Colt McCoy continues to have 184 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: injury issues for whatever reason, he's not throwing right here 185 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: right now, we don't really know why. And then you 186 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: go into camp and all of a sudden, you know, 187 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: you're like, wow, okay, this really isn't feasible. The rookie 188 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: isn't ready, and then we have a couple of the journeymen. 189 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: We need to bring someone in here. Perhaps, I mean 190 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: I could see it a week or two into training 191 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: camp maybe. 192 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: But then that Bridgewater is a journeyman. 193 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, true. But then at that point you're like, oh, 194 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: he's so far behind the eight ball. This if he's 195 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: gonna be the starting quarterback to learn the entire system, 196 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: and he hasn't had the benefit of an offseason. 197 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: If you're gonna sign Teddy Bridgewater to be your guy 198 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: with Kyler out, you would have done it by now. 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: I agree, so, but I think it just feeds into 200 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: this uncertainty that no one is quite true. Now. I'm 201 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: not saying that. Up in Jonathan Gannon's office, he doesn't 202 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: have the old white board with the depth chart up 203 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: there and the moving magnets like Friday night lights. Remember 204 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: in the movie Danny Booman to move around and off 205 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: comes his names and then he's he obviously has things 206 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: in mind. But I mean in terms of him showing 207 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: his hand, he's actually been a lot closer to the 208 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: best than I thought he would be upon his hire. 209 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: Would you guys agree with that? True or false? Meaning 210 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: he's such an energetic, talkative guy, I'm thinking, all, yeah, okay, 211 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna get a lot of information. No. 212 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: And wasn't that like right around the time that Drew 213 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: Pensing was fired as offensive coordinator, right before, when Gannon 214 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: did some radio interview or something. He was talking about 215 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: Kyler being under center and he kind of Peter King. 216 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: I yes, yeah, so I am a little surprised to 217 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: you that that's how it started, thinking, oh, we're going 218 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 3: to get a lot of information, and I think maybe 219 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: understanding the responsibilities and how what you say lingers as 220 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: a head coach, and how all the different ways that 221 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: people perceive it, it doesn't really surprise me that he 222 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: has kept things a little closer to the best. But yeah, 223 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: it is a little different than what I expect, at 224 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: least as early on. 225 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: In fact, when pets Seen and Jonathan Gannon did their 226 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: first joint press conference, I think it was Petscene's introduction. 227 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: Somebody asked the question about Kylo under center and what 228 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: should we expect, and then Petscene, because the two of 229 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: them are really close over a lot of years, kind 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: of took that good nature jab at the head coach 231 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: is maybe showing and revealing a little too much in 232 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: that interview, like why why would you tell anyone anything 233 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: about anything we're planning to do? So, but yeah, you know, 234 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: once again, I just it is I think part of 235 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: the storyline right now is just projecting exactly what we 236 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: expect and no one truly knows. I mean, I'll give 237 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: you my hot take, right, because you guys are just 238 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: itching for a hot take right here near the top, 239 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: especially from Cardinals on the ground, brought to you by 240 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: Pacific Office automation. Hard not to take that as a slam, 241 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: but that's cool. I shake that one off as well, 242 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: and I continue if we're believing that Paris Johnson Junior 243 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: is a tackle and that he would be your starting 244 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: right tackle from day one, because you know, based on 245 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: that one hour we got to see a rookie mini camp, 246 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: there was Paris Johnson Junior lined up where Darren. 247 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: It looked like right tackle to me, Paul, there you go, 248 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 4: he was most assuming we had a ghost right guard. 249 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so he was most definitely to the right of 250 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: John Gaines, who was most definitely snapping the ball. That's true, 251 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: That's what we know. So let's just say he's penciled 252 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: in is the starting right tackle, which, oh, by the way, 253 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: the NFL is a copycat league and is kind of 254 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: a trend. Right now, Seattle started two rookie tackles and 255 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: the Giants just did that. And okay, now, if Kelvin 256 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: beacham who I mean, between his leadership and the fact 257 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: that it was well bought the contract by the Cardinals, 258 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: doesn't costing a lot under the cap. I think beach 259 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: is here to stay and his versatility. He got you 260 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: out of game last year at left tackle, He's played 261 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: the interior before. Where does that leave Josh Jones? I 262 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: would say, guess what, it's a luxury you neither need 263 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: nor require. And he's in the contract year. There are 264 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: teams that are in dire need of tackles. Could he 265 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: be on the trade block? 266 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: There you go, I would I would think that that's possible. 267 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: If that's that's the direction they look, I think that's 268 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: absolutely possible. Now. 269 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: I think otherwise he would be your swing. If Josh Jones, 270 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: if you're gonna put Beacham somewhere else in your way 271 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: or Beacham's your swing, that's fair. 272 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 4: I mean, if you don't think Josh Jones can play 273 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: guard and start at guard. 274 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: And he's not your future at either tackle. 275 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: I'm probably dealing with him or I'm trying to deal him. 276 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Jones on the right side hasn't been 277 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: real successful, and Josh jones stint at right guard was 278 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: not very well received either. 279 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: And he has said before he's more comfortable on the 280 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: left side. So if they feel like he could be 281 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: a left guard, that's a different discussion. 282 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 4: He played fairly solid at left tackle all things considered, 283 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: I thought, I mean, I would think some team would 284 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: be willing to take a look at that. 285 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: I mean, if there's one definitive thing we can say 286 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: about Josh Jones, he's a left tackle. If he has 287 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: a position in the NFL, it's left tackle. So to 288 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: come back full circle to your point earlier, Danny, the 289 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: only thing you're willing to bet your paycheck on is 290 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: that DJ Humphreys is this team's left tackle. Where does 291 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: that leave Josh Jones? If Beach is the swing tackle, 292 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: I think it leaves him expendable, and you're just waiting 293 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 2: for a moment where down goes someone's starting tackle in 294 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: the NFL and you can leverage that. 295 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: I agree. I think he's here through training camp in 296 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 3: preseason because you're you're going to need You're gonna need 297 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: a lot of players through the preseason games of I 298 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: would imagine we will see more starters play in least 299 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: that first preseason game than last year. Maybe through the 300 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: first half of the second one. But you're gonna need 301 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: players to play there's three preseason games, so I wouldn't 302 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: be surprised if Josh Jones is on this roster through those. 303 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: But then would I would see that he either gets 304 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: cut or they try and trade him. 305 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: Darren, you now have the depth chart in your hands. 306 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: Where do you put Paris Johnson Junior? 307 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: I think to begin with I, I guess it would 308 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: depend on how you feel about Kelvin Beacham, I think 309 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: right now, and let's say what let's say in this 310 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: argument that we are doing something else with Josh Jones. 311 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: If you feel comfortable enough with Beacham as your right tackle, 312 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: I don't have a problem starting Paris Johnson as a 313 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: guard in this league to at least his first year. 314 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: He's done it before, and you could use another guard. 315 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: But I also don't have a problem with tackle. I'm 316 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: here's why I'm interested to see what they do with 317 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: Paris Johnson in some part, especially if they playim at 318 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: right tackle, because so many guys who are left tackles 319 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: and then drafted to be some they really would rather 320 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: not play right tackle. Josh Jones, we just were talking 321 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: about that. I don't think DJ Humphries loved the idea. 322 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: YEP. 323 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: Paris Johnson says, that's fine. That's where you want me 324 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: to play, That's where I'll play. I'll be curious to 325 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: know if that actually translates once you're on the field. 326 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Right. 327 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: That goes into my point last week of if we 328 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: are under the assumption that this staff, this front office 329 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: sees Paris Johnson as your future left tackle, however, you 330 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: want to give him a year to kind of get 331 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: a little more experienced under his belt. Have DJ Humphries 332 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: beer starting left tackle this year? Does it make more sense? 333 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: Are you more comfortable keeping Johnson on the left side 334 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: as your left guard or do you want him playing 335 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: tackle on the right side. 336 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: Look, I would say this that D. Jeffries is under 337 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: a long term contract. Can you get out of it 338 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: starting the end of this season in some way, shape 339 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: or form. Yes, you could. But if you consider him 340 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: the future, then why not start Paris Johnson Junior's career 341 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: at right tackle for three maybe four years? Until d 342 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Jemfrees says, you know what, I'm going into media and 343 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a TV star and leverage this big 344 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: personality out there. I could easily see them doing that, 345 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: And there's your two bookend tackles. 346 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: It's it's so interesting to me because I think a 347 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: lot of the there are many complaints. There have been 348 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: many complaints of the pre of the coaching staff before this, 349 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: whether it be OFFENSI or defense. But I heard about 350 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: it on the offensive line too, with Josh Jones for instance. 351 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: Why aren't they playing these people at the right place? 352 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: Why aren't they playing them at the place that they 353 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: are there the best? Why? You you know? And it's 354 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: like this new coaching staff came in and they're talking 355 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: about all the same things. They're talking about playing all 356 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: these offensive linemen at all the positions that they can 357 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: and that's what you should be able to do. And 358 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 4: you know, I get where fans are where they get 359 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: frustrated with some of that, but I think that's today's 360 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: NFL uh and you better have guys that can play 361 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 4: a lot of places. And again, more than that for 362 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: me is have a want to to be willing to 363 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: do that. Uh. You know, if you're a backup, you 364 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: don't really have much choice. You know. I'm talking to 365 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 4: yell the froh hold the center for now. And when 366 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: he talks about being able to do a bunch of stuff, 367 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: there's a pride in his voice that you know he 368 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: wants to be, as he calls himself the Danish army knife. 369 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: That that is slightly better than my nickname Magnus or 370 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: fro Holt. That's what I've been calling him personally. 371 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: But uh, but even the even the guys that are 372 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: that could start. I mean you mentioned before Beach moved 373 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: positions last year in the middle of a game to 374 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 4: to get them out of a game. You have to 375 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: have that ability. 376 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: So for all those reasons and more, I just see 377 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: the two bookend tackles being Paris Johnson junior right d 378 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: jump he's staying left, will Hernandez three theoretically going to 379 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: left guard, where he spent the vast majority of his career. 380 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, you're gonna figure out center, 381 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: You're gonna figure out right guard. And guess what this 382 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: just in You better figure it out right out of 383 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: the gate, because, among other takeaways, when it comes to 384 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: the Cardinals schedule, do you see some of the defensive 385 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 2: fronts they're playing right from the get go? Oh, just 386 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: a Washington commander's team that features Jonathan Allen and Doron 387 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Payne and Montes Sweat and Chase Young, and then you 388 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: get the New York Giants with Dexter Lawrence, the all 389 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: Pro wrecking ball on the inside cave on Thibodeau. Then 390 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: you get the Cowboys and Micah Parsons and probably the 391 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: strongest position group on the team might be the defensive line. 392 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: And then of course in week four, you get the 393 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 2: Niners with Nick Bosa, now Javon Hargrave and company. So 394 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: we're talking with Drew stand about Danny. You know what 395 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: you're gonna know right away whether this Cardinals offensive line 396 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: is ready to ball and is NFL ready because here 397 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: it comes to me one of the big takeaways in 398 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: this schedule is the first month and what they're gonna 399 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: see in terms of opposing pass rushers. 400 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: And you're gonna be without Kyler Murray most likely. We 401 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: don't know how many games he's likely to miss will 402 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: miss to start the season, But that comes into play 403 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: as well with the offensive line, as what who is 404 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: your quarterback? What is their mobility? How fast are they 405 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: getting the ball out? I mean, you're gonna need to 406 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: see a lot of improvements from what the offense the 407 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: offensive line looked like last year. But you're right it's 408 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: not gonna be easy right out the gate, and they're 409 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: gonna have their challenges and you have to be ready. 410 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not gonna have the quarterback who runs 411 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: the four to three saving your bacon. If you miss your. 412 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: Man extending plays for twenty seconds the way Kyler Murray 413 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: did in Vegas. That's not an. 414 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Option, right exactly, So of course we don't know. Look, 415 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: Clayton Tune, he had some good rushing numbers. I know, 416 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: what's his deal exactly. David blou is actually a little 417 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: more mobile than I thought. I have no idea about 418 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: Jeff driscoll. But once again, I mean we are thinking. 419 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 2: By the way, per Greg Rosenthal's article in NFL dot Com, 420 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: Colt McCoy is the starting quarterback Week one at Washington, right. 421 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: That's the way we're operating, isn't it. 422 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's the way we're operating now. But again, 423 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: this goes back to our conversation last week. You don't know, 424 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: and it's not just you don't know, because right now 425 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: Colt McCoy isn't throwing the ball. And it's not because 426 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: Colt McCoy isn't necessarily good or whatever what it is. 427 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: Right now for me is we don't know what this 428 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: coaching staff wants and they aren't saying Jack Diddley about it, 429 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: So who knows if Colt McCoy is really the guy 430 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 4: that they'd be most comfortable with, even if everybody's one 431 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: hundred percent healthy aside from Kyler obviously. 432 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: You know that's a great point because on the Red 433 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: Sea Report, Drew Stanton made a comment that the type 434 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: of quarterback they selected in round five, Clayton Tune, might 435 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: have been a little bit of a tell, meaning they 436 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: left a Dorian Thompson Robinson on the board the very 437 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 2: next pick DTR out of ucla dual threat quarterback. You're 438 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: still better about that, little bet? Yeah, a little bit. 439 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: He went to Cleveland, right. I was a bit dismayed, 440 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. I'm like, there he is 441 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: on the board, down what what? And then here comes 442 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: Clayton Toon. I'm like, you know, Clayton Tune, Who's I'm. 443 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: Pretty sure you had just walked into the office that 444 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: Saturday and I was already in there, and I think 445 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: like in the time you walked through your car, you 446 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: had asked if he was dtr was still on the 447 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 3: board and he was and then like, I'm pretty sure 448 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 3: you had just walked into the office and that happened 449 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 3: and you were not very happy. 450 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: I like the way you know, Danny cites how ay 451 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: she beat me to the office on that Saturday, would 452 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: be I didn't walk until the middle of round five. 453 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 4: That's cool at the point, Okay, this is John Gaines altogether. 454 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: So there's that the whole Clayton tune thing once again, 455 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: I don't think And I had to explain this to 456 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Drew stan mister, thirteen year veteran of the quarterback position. 457 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: I had explained to him how it works in August 458 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: in the preseason. We need the rookie quarterback to get 459 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: us through the preseason games because you need the kid 460 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: to come in in the second half. We need something 461 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: to look forward to, maybe a fan the flames of 462 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: a quarterback controversy for the backup gig at least something, 463 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: you know, something We gotta we gotta concoct some sort 464 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: of narrative in storyline when it comes to Clayton tune. 465 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: By the way, did you watch any of him at 466 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: rookie Minniicamp? People want to know what you look like. 467 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: Could you any any conclusions based on what you saw. 468 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: He was the only quarterback out there where the ice 469 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: in his arm like a major league pitcher after he 470 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: was done with Rookie minicamp. 471 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: No, but I mean they hardly did anything at Rookie Minniicamp. 472 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: Let's face it, we just talked about the ghost right. 473 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: Guard, Darren. That's our job is to you know, project 474 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: and speculate. You know, a little bit of information can 475 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: go a long way. 476 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he looked great throwing on air. 477 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: It wasn't even a coach. I think it was an 478 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: equipment assistant. 479 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: Without anybody in his face. 480 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: But he looked great on that bootleg. You know, he 481 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: had the half no helmets on his roll out to 482 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: the right. He threw on the run. 483 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: You know, they don't even have helmets on. 484 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of an a play soccer out there, Paul. 485 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of an Allen Iverson in there 486 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 2: talking about practice. Just think that more a little bit 487 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: of a ran in there by by Darren Urban So okay, 488 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: all right, Look, I mean once again, you're going to 489 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: learn to appreciate Clayton tune a lot more than I 490 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: think you do. 491 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: Right now, I agree First of all, I do want 492 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 4: to see him in the preseason. 493 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean, by the way the dates and times were 494 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: announced for the preseason schedule, just to let you know, 495 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: and you can buy tickets for the entire home schedule 496 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: Azycardinals dot com slash buy tickets. How about that for 497 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: an easy link to go to Broncos at home, Chiefs 498 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: at home at the Minnesota Vikings. That's your pre We 499 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 2: knew that already. Friday, Saturday, Saturday, and the last game 500 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: is is a noon Minnesota time, ten am kickoff on 501 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: a Saturday, which. 502 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: Means we get home at a normal time. 503 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: So the preseason game against the Broncos is seven pm 504 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: Mountain Standard time, Yes, which means it'll be a ten 505 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: pm kickoff Eastern Standard time. We'll still be three hours behind. 506 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, that's correct. 507 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: This is when Ron Wolfley. 508 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: Are you being surprised about this? You were here last 509 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: year season. 510 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: I'm not. It's just it makes me chuckle. 511 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's how wolf goes viral because it gets picked 512 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: up by NFL Network, it's the only game left in 513 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: that window, and then all the wolflysms across the country 514 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: and he's a Twitter sensation. That that's how that works. 515 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: You know every preseason it's a you know, Dave Pass 516 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: just turns into you know, he's basically got the shine box. 517 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: He's just setting Wolf up there. You know, he's just 518 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: these you get. 519 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 4: To do any TV play by a playboff. 520 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: I hope not. I truly Pass. You better figure it out. 521 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: But they don't give me this week. Zero crap over 522 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: at ESPN. Make the schedule work this preseason capeche. I 523 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: don't want to hear of these lame excuses. Did not 524 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: do TV last year? 525 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: Now? 526 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 4: Because I think the issue was always that last week? 527 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah I did, I did my last the one the 528 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: game in Tennessee. No, no, no, oh, I wouldn't no no, no, no, no, 529 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 3: no no. Play. 530 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: Wasn't there an issue on the sideline for the TV 531 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: game in Tennessee? What was it was? 532 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: It was just really hot, that's it. 533 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you did? You have to go over to 534 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: the gatoray table yourself? 535 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: And no, no, I had a towel. It was just 536 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: it was so humid, and with the way every stadium 537 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: is set up, it's the opposing team is when the 538 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: sun goes down, that's where the sun is hitting you. 539 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 3: And I remember to put him on blast my amazing boss, 540 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: Tim Delaney. After the game, I was doing live interviews 541 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 3: outside the locker room with Cam Cox from Channel twelve 542 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: and Tim is in my ear and we're getting ready 543 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: to start and he makes a stroke. He was like, 544 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: you look a little hot, Danny. I mean I looked 545 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: like I'd just gone swimming after this game, and I 546 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: was like, oh boy, that's wonderful to hear. 547 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 2: Choose your words carefully first, you know, started with your 548 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 2: dad and now with your boss. Choose your words carefully. 549 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 3: Over there, nothing but great things to say about both. 550 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: All right, what about the schedule, because this is your 551 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: chance to rant and rave and grape and grouse. Do 552 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: you have great things or not so much to say 553 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: about a schedule that includes no primetime games for the 554 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: first time since twenty eleven. 555 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: I'm happy about that. 556 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: You're happy, I don't think, Danny as though, based on 557 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: the look you're some of the glitz and glamor No. 558 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: No, my my side wasn't about that. Whatever. My side 559 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: wasn't about that or not having Thursday night games. My 560 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: sigh was the home stretch of the regular season, the 561 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: month of December, which is what the Cardinals yet again 562 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: have a bye, and the road trips are Chicago, Pittsburgh, and. 563 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 2: Philly Philly, all in December. 564 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: All in December, pretty possible places, none of which have 565 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: a roof. And that's what I noticed on the schedule. 566 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. 567 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 4: Paul. 568 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Also noticed that I asked myself and Chris Melvin, did 569 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: I offend someone at Park Avenue? What's going on with 570 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 2: the way they structured this? Really? Are you kidding me 571 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: on this one? 572 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: So there's that, there's I'm sure Cleveland and November is 573 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: going to be okay. 574 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: And I am surprised because we had talked about this. 575 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: I think maybe we talked about this off air last 576 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: week about having so many East Coast games, of if 577 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: the Cardinals were if we were going to stay out 578 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: there for a week and maybe do Washington and Philly 579 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: and back to back weeks, but not the case. Nope. 580 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: So, and what's interesting you have the three road games 581 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: in December at Pittsburgh, Chicago, Philadelphia in that order, and 582 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: then your first three games in the division are all 583 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: on the road. I can't say I've ever remembered that before, 584 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: not that I researched it, but when your first three 585 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: NFC West games are all on the road at the Niners, 586 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: at the Rams at Seattle, all between week four and seven. 587 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: In between there you have Cincinnati sandwiched. I don't remember 588 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: that ever happening. When it comes to the division play. 589 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 4: I don't remember that. But there's always like weird quirky 590 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: things like that. Didn't Was it last year year? Two 591 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: years ago? Was it last year when we when the 592 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: Cardinals played two of the division games? Both the other 593 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 4: two divisions all got all four of those games out 594 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: of the way before they played the third team? 595 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: Yes, we played was it then? Yes, the forty nine 596 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: ers Mexico City was the first time we played them, 597 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: and then but. 598 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 4: We had already played the Seahawks. 599 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: And the twice each. Yeah. 600 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: Maybe, So there's that. There's the week fourteen by, which 601 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: is the latest allowed in the NFL, and it's the 602 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: latest for the Cardinals since nineteen ninety one. A week 603 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: fourteen bye. 604 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: Was it the week before last year? 605 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? It was thirteen last year. 606 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: So this will be this will be the week that's 607 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: a late bye. 608 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: I guess if you're looking first silver lining, is your 609 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: quarterback missing the first couple of games of the season 610 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: having a late bye if he's going to you know, 611 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: get a late start to the season. 612 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but at the same time, you're thinking if you 613 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: have an early buy, that buys you nextra week of 614 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: him getting better. 615 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: You're on the road for Christmas Eve, you're on the 616 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: road for New Year's Eve. There's that there's the four 617 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: Eastern time Zone games but only one ten am kickoff, 618 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: so that's part of that. And then you have Philly 619 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: in week seventeen, which I definitely think that schedule makers said, 620 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: you know what, Eagles fans will give you an extra 621 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: few months just to simber down the. 622 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: Way nobody's working. 623 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: The next day palms, you know, I already said that 624 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: if you know that's late in the season. I think 625 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: it's the Eagles last home game, so it would be 626 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: fan appreciation day. They should just give out breathalyzers, is 627 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: what they should do on New Year's Eve. So that'll, 628 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: oh my goodness, when they walk in. Everyone just take 629 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: everyone's car keys when they come right through for that 630 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: Phillies game. And then if you're scoring at home. The 631 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: Cardinals are seventh in travel miles this year because they 632 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: play the NFC East in the AFC North. 633 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: To think that the NFC East used to be the 634 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 4: division where they played those teams every single year. 635 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: Hey, I've been around long enough where I was on 636 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: a lot of those when I was at Channel Cinco 637 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: and UH we used to go out on the team 638 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: plane and yeah, you were going to Washington and Philly 639 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: and uh in New York every single year. 640 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: So I don't want to be a Debbie Downer. I 641 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: don't want to pull Darren Paul. But and I'm trying 642 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: not to manifest those for some reason, yeah, Darren Downer. 643 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: For some reason, I have a horrible feeling just with 644 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: the road schedule that not only December will every game 645 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: be snowy or maybe Chicago rain. I have a feeling 646 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: that Seattle it's going to rain, that San Francisco it's 647 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: going to be cold, and like, I just feel like, 648 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: I don't know why. I feel like every road trip 649 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: is just going to be superutal. 650 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: Well, the Niners are October first, San Jose, you're good, 651 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: then say you're good that. 652 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: I don't think San Jose since they moved off of 653 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: Candlestick that kind of change. 654 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: Candlestick look out Rain in Seattle. 655 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: I used to go to Giants games or Candlestick as 656 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: a kid, and I used to regret not bringing more 657 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: than one jacket. Okay, when he's to go to games 658 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: in July at Candlestick. That's how insanely Coola was there. 659 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: I used to hate walking on the field because there 660 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 4: was no drainage and you'd be wearing your suit and 661 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: your nice shoes. At the end of the game and 662 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 4: you're walking through this suit. 663 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: There goes your fine Italian loafers, Darren Urban every time. 664 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: So here's the question. I want you to look at 665 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: the schedule, and I want you to give me your 666 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: most anticipated matchup. This is strictly personal. Which game, which opponent, 667 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: Which matchup do you anticipate the most, gives you the 668 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: most intrigue. Perhaps you're looking most forward to playing. I 669 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: want me to go first, as I buy you some timer. 670 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: Are you ready, Danny, I'm ready. 671 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: Go ahead, assuming that the Cardinals are competitive and have 672 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: a chance to make the playoffs. For me, it's week 673 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: seventeen at Philly. 674 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 4: I think that that's why it is for you. 675 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: Well, look, there's obviously a lot of storylines of Kyler 676 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: Murray and Jalen Hurts and Jonathan Gannon going up against 677 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: you know, his previous team. Nick rawlis defensive coordinator. If 678 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are already eliminated, there are still plenty of 679 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: good storylines. However, if there's a chance for them to 680 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: still secure a spot in the playoffs, or they're more 681 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: competitive than people are expecting, if there's a surprise factor 682 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: to this team, that to me is a really intriguing 683 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: matchup if you want to get personal. I mean, I've 684 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: got a lot of family from Dallas who's already looking 685 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: at tickets and everything to come out for when the 686 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 3: Cardinals hosts the Cowboys week three in September. However, if 687 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: we're looking for a matchup, I do think I think 688 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: the Cowboys is an intriguing matchup as well. It's just 689 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: it's hard when you don't know who your quarterback is 690 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: going to be. So for me, I would say Cardinals 691 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: and Eagles. 692 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: It's I just think that it doesn't matter where the 693 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: Cardinals are. I think the Eagles game is going to 694 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: be fascinating. I'll go with something else because you pick 695 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: the Eagles, but I guess for me, and there was 696 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: a couple of choices because there's some good teams on 697 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: the schedule, like that go to home schedule, that Bengals game, 698 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 4: it is gonna be interesting. But when I look through this, 699 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 4: and I've got a reason for it, it's it's the 700 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: Bears game, which is the week before the Eagles game. 701 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: And the reason for me on that is one, hopefully 702 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: Kyler's back by then. I mean, we're near the end 703 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: of the season. You're hoping he's playing. And I feel 704 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 4: like in a lot of ways, this team is about 705 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: where the Bears are. And you can make the same 706 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: argument where the Texans, who they also play, and I 707 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 4: would have picked that, except that doesn't really have any 708 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: impact on anything because the Cardinals win in lose no 709 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: matter what happens to the outcome of that game because 710 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: of the first round picks. But the Bears game, I 711 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: just feel like these two teams are kind of in 712 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: the same kind of place, and you have the history 713 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: together and the two former teams from Chicago, and they're 714 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 4: trying to get back to respectability and they're both trying 715 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 4: to They're hoping that these guys that they picked as 716 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: their franchise quarterbacks are going to be the guys. And 717 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 4: it'll be kind of fascinating to see where those teams 718 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 4: are at that point in the season and how they 719 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: come out head to head. 720 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: There are good matchups though, I mean the Ravens with 721 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson OBJ, Like, there's gonna be some good especially 722 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: home games for fans. Like there's a lot of intriguing 723 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: games to go to and they're. 724 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: All early that's are on sale now, that's my pick, 725 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. Just I love the matchup at quarterback. I 726 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: love that the second game of Kyler's NFL career was 727 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: one of the most captivating games I've ever watched, just 728 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 2: from the sideline, just watching Lamar against Kyler. 729 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: Are you confident Kyler's back by then? 730 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: Pretty much like eight December? I think October twenty ninth, 731 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: I really do. 732 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: I without knowing anything, reporting nothing, I'd be surprised if 733 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: he's not back. Now. I know what Jonathan Gannon said 734 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: in his most recent meeting with the media, and they 735 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: asked for a Kyler update, and he said going good, 736 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: and then he but he threw in there got a 737 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: long ways to go. And then that made news that 738 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: got picked up by a lot of the national NFL 739 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 2: media that he's quote still got a long ways to go. 740 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: But as Craig gray Alou pointed out to his credit, 741 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: he also said that about the entire team, So it's 742 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: been sort of a mantra of the head coach. 743 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,959 Speaker 4: That's the thing people are trying to read into something 744 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 4: where he's just trying to not say anything. 745 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: I would just imagine he's too early in his rehab 746 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: to know what week he's going to be back by now. 747 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's May now. In the next couple 748 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: of months, like that'll probably be different. I just think, like, 749 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: how I would imagine, how can you say, yes, he 750 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: will be back by week five? 751 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: I wonder what Kyler would say if we had the 752 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: chance to talk to him. 753 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: It's a good question, are you is that foreshadowing? 754 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: Is there? 755 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: Is there? Is there a Kyler interview coming up that 756 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: we need. 757 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 4: To prepare for. 758 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well we'll see. So the most anticipated 759 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 2: matchups there you go. It was Philly, the Bears, and 760 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: the Ravens. Those are the three most anticipated. Anything else 761 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: before I move off the schedule, Danny, anything else that 762 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: you know? Did you you know you're preparing to. 763 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 4: Hosting all your family at your house when they come 764 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 4: for the Dallas game. 765 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: Oh no, we'll see who come. 766 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 4: Some of them at Kyle's house. 767 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: We'll see I. I. I mean, we'll see who actually 768 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: comes out. But you know my parents, well, my dad 769 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: and his friends want to do a golf trip. My 770 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: parents want to come out, and my siblings when is 771 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: that game that's early in September twenty. 772 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: Four golf in September. 773 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: It's still my my aunt and RETI cousins want to 774 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 3: come out, which is great. The more the merria. But 775 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: I have made clear that no, I'm in a one 776 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 3: bedroom apartment, so like maybe one my younger sister can 777 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: stay with me. My nephew can stay with me, but 778 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: no hotels are air babies. 779 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what about as I look here at this, No, Dan, 780 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 2: did you have a problem with today's rundown of any sort? 781 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: As I look to see here exactly you know the 782 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: game plan sheet? As I look at here, I just 783 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: called a time out. 784 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: At first it was was where will Paris Johnson fit? 785 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 3: Which I think we all were on the same page about. 786 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 3: I have a It's not that I have a problem. 787 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: I have a dilemma with answering the other question that 788 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: was in the rundown. 789 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: Well, there's is Clayton tune this year's Brock party. 790 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 3: That wasn't the question. 791 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: She just pretty darn presumptuous. 792 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 4: I would say, to see, there are some statistics that 793 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 4: back it up. Though there will be a story on 794 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: Easycardinals dot com. 795 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: On Wednesday, so that keep unlike the Kyler that is foreshadowing. 796 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: Okay, keep going down the rundown. 797 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: The next one is Matt Hawk. The answer at punter 798 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: we already talked about that. You know, probably he'll he'll 799 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 2: get a college try out of Nolan Cooney. We'll see. 800 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: And then bigger concern dot dot dot pass rush or 801 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: pass coverage. 802 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: There it is Paul oh do rant. This is hard 803 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: because I was thinking about the position that Cardinals are in, 804 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 3: and at first I think, oh, you really need to 805 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 3: have a very strong pass rush because you have a 806 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 3: lot of inexperienced So that doesn't make me necessarily feel 807 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 3: great right now because we don't really know what the 808 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals have. They still need to beef up the interior 809 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: of the defensive line. So to me, that says that's 810 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: where the big problem is right now is your pass rush. 811 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: And then I think, well, what does a secondary look like? 812 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 3: Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson, your safeties Isaiah Simmons question mark 813 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 3: In cornerback, you've got Marco Wilson and Antonio Hamilton, assuming 814 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 3: those are your starters. I don't necessarily have a problem 815 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 3: with that. Do I feel like that is the most 816 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 3: threatening secondary in the league. No, And so that's why 817 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 3: I was kind of going back and forth, was if 818 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 3: you have a stronger coverage, right, that allows your front 819 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 3: seven to get to the quarterback because you know your 820 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: opposing quarterback is going to have to hang onto the 821 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 3: ball because coverage is going to be great. And then 822 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: vice versa. If you've got a really strong pass rush, 823 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 3: your quarterback is under pressure, and so that gives a 824 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 3: little bit of little leeway for your secondary, your cornerback's 825 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 3: really so it's hard for me to figure out which 826 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 3: is the strength and which is the weakness of this Cardinals' 827 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 3: roster right now. I think, looking at experience and what 828 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: we know, I would lean towards coverage being the strength. However, 829 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: I don't know what else you would really add to 830 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 3: the pass rush than what the Cardinals have done through 831 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 3: free agency. In the draft. 832 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: Well, there were thirty six sacks last year, and eighteen 833 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: walked out the door in JJ Watt and Zach Allen. 834 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: Half the sack production gone, So how do you replace that? 835 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: What do you do? The Arizona Cardinals, obviously you went 836 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: after b Joe Jalari pick number forty one. Overall, you 837 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: moved Zaving Collins to outside linebacker. Once again, I'm considering 838 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: them an outside linebacker until we see otherwise. Believe your eyes, 839 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: I'm going with that and then okay, that to me 840 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 2: is the biggest question mark on this ross is currently constructed. 841 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: What are you doing a defensive line that even just 842 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 2: released Manny Jones last week after the rookie mini camp. 843 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: So that was a little surprising considering you would think 844 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: theoretically they need bodies. Is there a veteran or two 845 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: or three that's gonna come in off the street? Same 846 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: with a veteran corner or two. Maybe I'll say this. 847 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: NFL dot Com had a story about Day three rookies 848 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: who could start. A year ago. There were one hundred 849 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: and fifty eight Day three picks, and sixteen to the 850 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: one fifty eight started eight or more games, headlined by obviously, 851 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: the Seahawks rookie corner Tariq Wollen fifth round pick, ended 852 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: up being a pro bowler, But there were others that 853 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: were like the tight ends the bucks Kate Otten round four, 854 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 2: he was good. Remember him. On Christmas Night the Giants 855 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: got a lot out of Daniel Bellinger. There were the 856 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: running backs, obviously Casey with Isaiah Piciceco and then Damian Pierce, 857 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: the fourth rounder out of Houston, etc. Etc. So anyway, 858 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: one of these day three rookies who could start at 859 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 2: NFL dot com and there were about a dozen. A 860 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: number five on this list, Key Troll Clark out of Louisville, 861 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: Cardinal's corner who missed the Rookie Minicamp because. 862 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 4: He was graduating from Louisville. 863 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 2: Well done, Yes, double thumbs up on that. 864 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 4: It was and he was super excited about it, and 865 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 4: it was kind of fun to talk to him about 866 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 4: it because he was giggling about talking about how crazy 867 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 4: this a couple of days had been from walking for 868 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: his graduation first in his family and then getting to 869 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 4: rookie Minicamp. But if he can play that also is 870 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 4: a huge, huge deal. 871 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great story. Just the picture set 872 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: it all. I mean, that was a genuine grin ear 873 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: to ear grin. It wasn't that his quote he said, 874 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: I've been. 875 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 4: Smiling on that's why I'm smiling and cheesing so much. 876 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: Cheesing so much, I'm just so happy. Can I get 877 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: a translation on that? 878 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: Cheezing? Probably not cheesing, but cheezing big smile. 879 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: So maybe Darren should have spelled it with you know, 880 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: maybe the apostrophated the end instead of the G. 881 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 3: Probably, but that's okay, you'll be better Darren. 882 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 4: O god, oh damn wow. 883 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: Just I mean, it's just saw off shotgun of us 884 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 2: snark here. 885 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 3: You guys agree pass rush is the bigger concern. 886 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 4: I would say, so, yeah, yeah, But here's here's the 887 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 4: I think if you had a really good pass rush, 888 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 4: you could make this secondary work. They don't have a 889 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 4: really good pass rush, so I do think there's a 890 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 4: chance that this secondary can get exposed at times. But 891 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 4: if you're comparing the two units, I think right now 892 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 4: the defensive line has in the pass rush, has much 893 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 4: more to prove the second than the secondary at this point. 894 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 4: I mean, again, I don't there's plenty of secondaries that 895 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 4: people are gonna take over it, and I know that 896 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 4: they need help there and all that stuff, but but 897 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 4: right now, again, when you start, at least when we're 898 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 4: in the secondary, where I have some guys where you're like, Okay, 899 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 4: this is gonna this is the guy that be out there. 900 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 4: This guy will probably be out there. We can't really 901 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 4: do that with anybody on the defensive line or the 902 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 4: pass rush right now. 903 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting to me and man I long 904 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: for the good old days of last offseason where here 905 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: on Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation, 906 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: I was able to use the words last place in 907 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 2: front of the Seahawks. I've really enjoyed saying the words 908 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: last place Seahawks. So if you look at Seattle's defense 909 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: right now, what do they do? They doubled down on 910 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 2: the cornerback position, right They went after Devin Witherspoon number five. Overall, 911 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 2: they're gonna pair them up with Tarik Wollen. So to 912 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 2: your point, Danny, the chicken in the egg, the egg 913 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 2: and the chicken, what is it? Because they don't have 914 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: a lot to speak of along that defensive front when 915 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 2: it comes to getting to the quarterback and or defensive 916 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 2: linemen and stopping the run. And I know the Seahawks 917 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: everyone's darling pick here in the off season to go 918 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: from that nine win team to maybe a twelve or 919 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 2: thirteen win team. I get it, but they better figure 920 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: out how to stop the run because they were historically 921 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 2: bad at times a year ago. How they're gonna get 922 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: to the quarterback despite having theoretically on paper to elite corners. 923 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 2: But as everyone who has played the game, including how 924 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: Vanabosch and Drew stand in recent episodes of The Red 925 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: Sea Report, they said, hey, you can only cover for 926 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 2: so long. You better be able to get to that quarterback. 927 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 3: Weren't the Seahawks bat at stopping the run until the 928 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: Cardinals visited last season? Wasn't that when they turned things around? 929 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: It was the week before and then it continued with 930 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 2: the Cardinals game. It went for about another month and 931 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 2: then the bottom fell out again. 932 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: And then that was I remember standing on the sideline 933 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 3: watching it happen, almost inches in front of me when 934 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown got hurt. 935 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, good times. Unfortunately on a ball that 936 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 2: never should have been thrown because Treek Wollen was all 937 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: over him all the way down the field, and so yeah, 938 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: but hey, that's Drek Wollen player. He got props from 939 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins after the game. He got the Seal of 940 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: approval as being a legit big time corner already. You 941 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 2: know what's interesting talking about pass rush and draft picks. 942 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 2: You see where there's a bit of a buzz, a 943 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 2: bit of a hubbub in Houston because Will Anderson is 944 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: now going to be required to play with his hand 945 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 2: on the ground. They're moving him to defensive end. Now, 946 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: he played some of that bit at Alabama, but Damiko 947 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 2: Ryans had to answer repeated questions about your moving positions 948 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 2: with Will Anderson. He tried to explain, no, not really, 949 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: he's still coming off the edge, but he's not an 950 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 2: outside linebacker in our system. He's a defensive end, so 951 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 2: his hand will be in the dirt. Let's just see. 952 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 2: That's just something I'm monitoring from AFAR. Let's see how 953 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: Will Anderson goes in Houston. 954 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 4: I think that's fair. And again, there's a reason why 955 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 4: a lot of people think that the Cardinals are going 956 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 4: to benefit greatly by having that Texans first round pick 957 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 4: this year is because that they're not going to be 958 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: very good. 959 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: By the way, Houston ranked last in rushing defense last year. 960 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: So for all the analytics out there that say, oh gee, 961 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: stopping the run or running the ball, not necessarily that 962 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: big a deal. You look at some of the worst 963 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 2: teams in the league year after year, they're usually dead 964 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 2: last or close to it in rushing defense. Usually it's 965 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 2: still the quickest way to get demoralized and lose time 966 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: to moralize. 967 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 4: We don't need to go down this rabbit hole. But also, 968 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 4: if you're a bad team, you tend to be behind, 969 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 4: and the teams that are ahead tend to run the 970 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 4: ball more because we're trying to burn up clocks. 971 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: So I get it. So anyway, as for the rookie 972 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 2: mini camp, and we already talked about it was tough 973 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 2: necessarily to make any quick judgments. As much as we 974 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: really want to make a snap judgment based on a 975 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 2: rookie mini camp, I will say this, did Michael Wilson 976 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: not only look good but sound good? Yes, Michael Wilson 977 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 2: is already a top five interview on this team. Yes, 978 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 2: agree or disagree? Agree, really well spoken? Yes, I mean 979 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 2: he got up there and just rushed that press conference. 980 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 2: In fact, you know, if we need an emergency analyst 981 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: on one of the Cardinals broadcasts, we might bring in 982 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: the rookie receiver out of Stanford. 983 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 4: I was going to say, you want to know why 984 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 4: he's so good Stanford. 985 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: To Stanford education, I know. 986 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're in the Bay area, where where 987 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 4: else would you want to go? 988 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: Be good? For one hundred grand a year? Okay, now, 989 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: on a dollar for dollar basis, obviously, Stanford's education pales 990 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 2: in comparison to that fine institution across the bay, the 991 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: original University of California. See, there's no really reason to 992 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: go with a locator, because you know, when you're the 993 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 2: original University of California, you don't need like Los Angeles 994 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 2: after it, or you see Davis or Santa Barbara, because 995 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: you're the original. That's the way that works. Whatever you say, Paul, 996 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 2: anybody else catch your eye at Rookie camp As. I 997 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: quickly moved this along before I evoke the ire of 998 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 2: Danny Sirek once again. John Gaines at Center, I mean, 999 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 2: are we thinking? What are we thinking at center? Okay, 1000 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 2: what are we thinking? Is it inevitable? 1001 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 4: Disasperated? He's exasperated, Like. 1002 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: The importance of the center position cannot be understated. Are 1003 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 2: we expecting a veteran center to come in? Is it 1004 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: really gonna be Magnus verf Roholt? Is it gonna be? 1005 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 2: John Gaines I mean Lucidas Smith from last year never 1006 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 2: played center at all and still hasn't in an NFL game. 1007 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: Help me out here, Well, there's a lot of question marks, 1008 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 3: I think because you have a new staff and what 1009 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 3: we've seen by defensive lineman Manny Jones being cut already 1010 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 3: is Lacita Smith Because to me, just just looking at 1011 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 3: how things pan out, John gains as your starting center 1012 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: is not a realistic approach. So right now though the 1013 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: centers okay, So for me, it would seem like it'd 1014 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 3: be more likely for Froholt or if they like Lasida Smith. 1015 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: But that's the question. If this new staff doesn't feel 1016 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 3: like Lasita Smith is a good fit et centter. One, 1017 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 3: does that maybe answer a question for depth at one 1018 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 3: of your guard positions we've been talking about. And two 1019 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 3: does that open the door for John Gaines to maybe 1020 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 3: be a center. I do still think it is very 1021 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 3: likely at some point a veteran center will be brought in. 1022 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 4: This feels so much like we're gonna get to camp, 1023 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna see where we are for a couple of weeks, 1024 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 4: and then we might sign a center somewhere during training camp. 1025 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 4: That's if we need one. 1026 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: Yes, And look, I'll say this. You know, the whole 1027 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 2: prospect of a rookie center is not something that makes 1028 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: me bullish on an offensive line, although the Giants appear 1029 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 2: to be doing exactly that with John Michael Schmidtz, who 1030 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: was taken on in Minnesota. I love that song, and 1031 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: so let's not get into that again. But here's here's 1032 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: the one. Here's the one unquestioned upside. If Colt McCoy 1033 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 2: is your starting quarterback, I think you could get away 1034 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: with a rookie center fair because Colt McCoy comes up 1035 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: and it'll be under center a lot more than in 1036 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: the gun. I think this year, under this system and 1037 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 2: this coaching staff, and just this skill set that Colt 1038 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: McCoy brings at age thirty six, but I would think 1039 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 2: that Cole well, not only is he most definitely equipped 1040 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 2: to do it, but I think he would handle everything 1041 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: in terms of setting the productions. It wouldn't be like 1042 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 2: a Rodney Hudson with a young Kyler Murray, where a 1043 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: lot of that is outsourced to the Veterans Center. It 1044 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 2: would be just the the inverse of that. 1045 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 3: I could be wrong, I could be wrong on John Gains, 1046 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,919 Speaker 3: and that would be a wonderful surprise. And while versatility 1047 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 3: is great, from a depth perspective, this is non offensive 1048 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 3: Lemon who played center all throughout college, right like you 1049 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 3: are expecting that on top of one coming from college 1050 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 3: and to the pros and all that takes to get 1051 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 3: comfortable and be successful. This is a player who, again 1052 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: versatility is great, it's not like he strictly played center 1053 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 3: and that would give him a leg up. Right now, the. 1054 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 2: Other player that I do have an eye on it, 1055 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 2: I'm curious what he looks like is Marquise Hayes. Here's 1056 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 2: another guy who's going to get us through training camp, 1057 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 2: although not necessarily for football purposes. But this guy brings 1058 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: a bit of an edge to him. Yes, he's got 1059 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of Ritchie incognito to him. Every once 1060 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 2: in a while, oh I don't know, three or four 1061 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 2: times a week, to be honest, he starts a fight, 1062 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 2: Marquis Hayes. He's just that's right. Last year, Oh I'm sorry, 1063 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 2: is my fist underneath your cage? And is it jabbing 1064 00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 2: you in the jaws? 1065 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: And then all of a sud on with JJ Watt 1066 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 3: was he one of those that was will Hernandez and JJ. Yes, 1067 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 3: training camp my favorite, but there were. 1068 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 2: At least there were at least three. 1069 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 4: Skirmish kids have a skirmish with two or three. I 1070 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 4: can't remember who it was with though I. 1071 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 2: Can't either, but yeah, there there was definitely when you're 1072 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: when you're at your most bored during training camp, just 1073 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 2: go ahead and focus on Marquise Hayes and keep watching 1074 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 2: him to the echo of the whistle because he's he's 1075 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 2: prone to starting something. And so it was sort of 1076 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 2: like who was the who was the cardinal who ended 1077 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 2: up being the w W wrestler Baron Cohen, but when 1078 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 2: he was a cardinal's offensive lot Tom. 1079 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 4: Pestock Pestock, Yeah, Baron. 1080 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,479 Speaker 2: Corbyn, thank you, Jim al moundro Tom Pestock who coming 1081 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: into camp, his reputation preceding him golden gloves, boxer, black 1082 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 2: belt and everything there is karate jiu jitsu and he 1083 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: was an m M A guy. Don't mess with Tom 1084 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 2: Pestock wasn't the most talented offensive line. Mean, he'd tell 1085 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 2: you that you don't mess with Pestock until some rookie did. 1086 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: And were we in the dome, We're in the dome. 1087 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 2: Down went the rookie quickly quickly met his demise, and uh, 1088 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 2: nobody messed with Pestock the rest of that camp. In fact, 1089 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: if I was the guy cutting Pestock, I would have 1090 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: brought in reinforcements, So I would have done it. I 1091 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 2: would have done it on the other side of a 1092 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: of a locked door. Put it that way. But he 1093 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: forged himself a heck of a WWE career. In fact, 1094 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 2: I believe Larry Fitzgerald went to a few of those 1095 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 2: big I'm sure he did those big WrestleMania events as 1096 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 2: a guest. 1097 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 4: So many WWE wrestlers were former Cardinals offensive linemen. 1098 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 2: Okay, So Darren, you know you all right? Darren over there, 1099 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 2: You're good. You're good with everything with the dream, Okay. 1100 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 2: Anything else you need to foreshadow or promote that's coming 1101 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 2: down the line? Easy, Cardinals dot com. 1102 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 4: I don't think at other Okay until next week's show. 1103 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 2: Have you heard anything from Yell to Frohold? Did is he? 1104 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 2: You know, was positive on the story you did on him, 1105 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: the profile. 1106 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 4: I have not been able to talk to Yelda as 1107 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 4: of yet, although you know, speaking of things coming down 1108 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 4: the line, it sounds like we're gonna have more Cardinals 1109 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 4: Underground for people this season? 1110 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,760 Speaker 2: It did I miss a memo? 1111 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 3: What's going on? 1112 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 4: Did you not talk to anybody but me? 1113 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 3: Olmes? 1114 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 4: I thought this got brought up. I was gonna say, 1115 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Almo talked about it in the staff. 1116 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: Was there a rehearsal that that me and Danny missed? 1117 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,479 Speaker 2: Do we miss rehearsal again? 1118 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1119 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: I think. 1120 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 4: I think the idea is that we're going to have 1121 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 4: a couple of episodes of Cardinals Underground every week, which 1122 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 4: again was brought up, and you guys weren't listening. 1123 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 3: Oh that doesn't seem like Paul myself? 1124 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 2: Is it going to be like hosted? 1125 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 4: Okay? I felt weird there. I'm like, I could have 1126 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 4: sworn that you brought it up, and. 1127 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 3: Well, next week? What days are O t As? Is 1128 00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 3: that next week? 1129 00:53:59,360 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: No? 1130 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, next week our ot as? 1131 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 2: This all of a sudden, this podcast is turned into 1132 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 2: a staff. 1133 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 3: Meeting to talk about on the podcast. Next week we'll 1134 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 3: have more to talk about. 1135 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 4: Are we are? We really? Are O t is really 1136 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 4: going to change anything? 1137 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 3: Fine? I'm just trying. I won't try anymore. 1138 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 4: What we'll be able to tell. 1139 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 3: All is too smart to last? 1140 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 2: Nut. This is this is the this is the when. 1141 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 2: When it when it evolves into Danny and Darren becoming 1142 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 2: the Bickersons. That's when we say goodbye. Cardinals Underground brought 1143 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 2: to you by Pacific Office Automation