WEBVTT - Apple SUES OpenAI For Stealing Their Secrets — Then This Happened

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Apple versus open Ai showdown.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I've been talking about this for a

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<v Speaker 2>long period of time, and now the four stories kind

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<v Speaker 2>of come out. So open Ai recruited mister Tan. He

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<v Speaker 2>spent twenty four years of Apple. He was a VP

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<v Speaker 2>of product design, and all of a sudden, all the

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<v Speaker 2>data of how Apple sales, product ideas, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes to open Ai.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's co founder with Johnny Ive. That's already interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to say the least, but they emailed out supplier Intel.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be one of the biggest issues

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<v Speaker 2>in Silicon Valley, I think, and his lawsuit is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be major. And going back to picking enemies, Sam

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<v Speaker 2>Autman has done a terrible job of understanding that relationships matter,

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<v Speaker 2>and you pick two of the most powerful people to

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<v Speaker 2>have as your enemies before you IPO in Apple and

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<v Speaker 2>in Elon Musk. I've told everyone else be careful what

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<v Speaker 2>data you put on Chat, GPT, put yes and chat.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember me telling you, because I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>some of these rumblings about them taking data from creators

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<v Speaker 2>and business owners. But at this skill is insane and

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<v Speaker 2>it goes back to the character of the founder, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things in that hit piece that

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<v Speaker 2>you can say we're salacious, but if you go read

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<v Speaker 2>that book, all of those things are not a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Also too, for Microsoft, they're getting some of the blowback

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why they're doing their partnership now with Anthropic,

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<v Speaker 2>And you can make the argument they should have just

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<v Speaker 2>bought one of these companies opposed to just leaning the

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<v Speaker 2>open AI Apple, even though it all time how today

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking, I'm like, Apple probably would have been

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<v Speaker 2>at seven hundred if they would have got this AI race.

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<v Speaker 2>But picking the right partner is everything. And whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>founder character issues are, they're going to bleed into the company.

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<v Speaker 2>So just to let you know really quick. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>giving Oracle some issues as well. In the last seventy

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<v Speaker 2>two hours, they had a safety quit, they were sued

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<v Speaker 2>by the New York Times top executive departs, they shut

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<v Speaker 2>down their browser tool left in nine months and sou

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<v Speaker 2>for trade thus by Apple, and then their costs selling

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<v Speaker 2>product to China against sanctions. I keep telling you there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of tech companies in the United States of

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<v Speaker 2>America that are being spies allegedly for China or highest bidder.

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<v Speaker 3>That felt like a perfect segue because this is an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting time. I'm going to read a quote here from

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a person who is in that alleged spy mode.

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<v Speaker 1>General's name is Chang Lu.

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<v Speaker 3>He was allegedly utilized undiscovered authored uh other than Cache

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<v Speaker 3>and Bug on an unreturned Apple laptop to access shared

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<v Speaker 3>network folders. He allegedly downloaded dozens of highly confidential hardware files,

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<v Speaker 3>including technical specifications for unreleased products and proper preparatory circuit boards,

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<v Speaker 3>leaving messages mocking Apple about what look what I found.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's here's the crazy part. This suit happens at

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. We know that open ai You see what I

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<v Speaker 1>want with Yeah? Time is everything. Time is important.

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<v Speaker 3>So we know open ai is supposed to what was

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to IPO some way here in the next few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks that has been pushed back.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting timing, John.

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<v Speaker 3>I've also has left Apple to join forces over at

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<v Speaker 3>Opening Eye Houston, and we covered it here. But Apple

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<v Speaker 3>suing them about trade secrets tells me a few things.

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<v Speaker 3>It tells me they know something or they've seen something

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<v Speaker 3>that they want to get a happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because ip is in question. I want everybody to do.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the homework assignment tonight, Ian, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>homework assignment I'm giving out on your behalf. I want

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<v Speaker 3>everybody to search project Sweetpee, open Ai, project Sweetpee.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that important?

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<v Speaker 3>Because second half of twenty twenty six, open ai is

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<v Speaker 3>going to not only release more software, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>release their quote unquote or alleged hardware product.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>There's a few, There's a smart glass that allegedly is

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<v Speaker 3>on its way, a digital voice recorder, and a wearable pin.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, we're starting to look at how we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to use AI going forward in the future. Will it

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<v Speaker 3>look like this right or will it look like a

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<v Speaker 3>small device that can just be attached to you. If

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<v Speaker 3>open ai can get ahead of that and be first

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<v Speaker 3>to market with that, the innovation is going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>How many users will you have?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Apple knows that this is coming, and because

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<v Speaker 3>they know it's coming, let's get this out there. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get off the end and let's put this suit out there. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is all just a complaint, right There still has

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<v Speaker 3>to be something that has to be proven.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't in terms of too many documents.

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<v Speaker 2>And now to cut you off if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>steal data from one of the largest international companies.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you not touch your friends about.

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<v Speaker 3>It or mock the people that you took it from.

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<v Speaker 3>Less Yes, allegedly, the timing of it, the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>what is coming down the pipeline. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot more to the story and we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to see a lot more. But again, that talks to

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<v Speaker 3>leadership and also talks about poaching from talent. Right, the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that John I've left tells you that, Okay, Apple

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<v Speaker 3>from an innovation standpoint may be lacking. But open Ai

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<v Speaker 3>maybe where the future is now. John I brought his

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<v Speaker 3>company over in terms of innovation. He brought this company

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<v Speaker 3>over to open aim. We should be looking for a

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<v Speaker 3>product within the next three months, a hardware product, not

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<v Speaker 3>just a software one, not an update, a hardware product

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<v Speaker 3>from open Ai in the next I would say three months.

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<v Speaker 2>And open Ai took They're saying the number is four hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to my friend at Apple. It's more like

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred and fifty employees I've got poached. And while

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<v Speaker 2>y'all putting out that mid flip phone the Samsung had

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years ago. The other part is Rashott you

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<v Speaker 2>talk a lot about manager relationships the way that Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>I've exited when they did that commercial together.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it's a war. It's a war time.

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<v Speaker 2>So what so that even Elon to get revenge he

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<v Speaker 2>turned if you go look read this perspectus, SpaceX is

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<v Speaker 2>an AI company and he did that solely to eat

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<v Speaker 2>market share from Sam Altman. Now look very soon for

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<v Speaker 2>SpaceX and Apple to have a partnership.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't factor up when you guys want to have a

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<v Speaker 2>Warren have beef as what if these teams get together

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<v Speaker 2>and start to wage war against you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it won't just be Apple that has a

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<v Speaker 3>SpaceX partnership. I see that's the next topic. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think in terms of where we're headed for a compute

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<v Speaker 3>and what it looks like here and what it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like in the oral economy, I know, the space economy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that he's going to create a monopoly,

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<v Speaker 3>what they're all going to need him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what happened