WEBVTT - The Spirit Who Grills

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<v Speaker 1>It's PM at Melrose Place and you're listening Tonight Call.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>your strange days and lonely nights. I'm Molly Lambert and

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<v Speaker 1>with me in Los Angeles is Damaliyoshida. What what? And

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<v Speaker 1>as always teslent, we are all in a room together?

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<v Speaker 1>Um then or not being in a room together. I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that we all, even probably when we're on opposite

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the country, bob our heads a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>when we think that the theme music should be coming

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<v Speaker 1>in for our show. Yeah, we do. I for sure

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<v Speaker 1>bob my head to the imaginary the music. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you're bombing your heads because we can see you for

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should make some like some solar power bobble heads.

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<v Speaker 1>in an Instagram and they're all popping off on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>account just across the web. We're sending out strands. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of the Facebook group, UM, somebody posted something that is

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<v Speaker 1>now making the rounds that I wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys about. And it's Cremain's cookies. Um, if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are listening and eating, put down what you're eating

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute. Because in Davis, California, at a UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's Da Vinci Charter Academy, a student passed

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<v Speaker 1>out some cookies to her friends that contained human ashes.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably pretty clean, though, I mean I can't imagine clean

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<v Speaker 1>eating clean. Yeah, like, of all things that you could

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<v Speaker 1>put in your bet, I bet chromines are better for

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<v Speaker 1>you than like, you know, aspar team. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they have protein? Do you think they retain any? I

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<v Speaker 1>bet nuance. It's probably just a carb, right, Is it

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<v Speaker 1>even a car? Maybe it's just fiber. But though I

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<v Speaker 1>heard things can get toxic when they get really burnt. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the burnt part of toast supposed to be bad

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Supposed it's a carcinogenic? Well, somebody, anything that's

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<v Speaker 1>charred small an entire human body is I think average

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds of ashes? Am I making that up? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think, authority, and I trust you. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's between four and six pounds. I think women are

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<v Speaker 1>average four pounds and men are average six pounds of ashes.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Halloween, by the way, Happy Halloween yet, But you

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<v Speaker 1>know works I did? Um? But the kids who ate

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<v Speaker 1>the ash cookies, some of them knew, some of them didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine of them ate the cookies in total? Um, would

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<v Speaker 1>you ever eat a cookie made with how much? Actually

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<v Speaker 1>a better question, how much? Would you? So? Was an experiment?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was this a kid who had been asked to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a treat to class and had a dead relative

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<v Speaker 1>that he had to do something with. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a prank problem. I think it was a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sprinkle some of those human ashes in your this

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<v Speaker 1>is I think. I believe the kid was a high

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<v Speaker 1>school or the conflicting information picturing like an eight year

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<v Speaker 1>old bringer, I was too something about a teenager that's

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<v Speaker 1>more believable. But where did they get the cremains? Whose

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<v Speaker 1>cremains were they? I believe the grandparents. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>grandparents cremains. See, that's what makes it sucked up somehow

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<v Speaker 1>you think if it will who else, I mean what

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<v Speaker 1>it would be so much worse if it were a

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<v Speaker 1>stranger's cremine, anyone's crew, your own flesh and blood. Because

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<v Speaker 1>so he's like, what at the funeral and they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>earn there and he like sneaks when in the house

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<v Speaker 1>maybe so yeah, well either way he decides, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>will be crazy funked up who took some of my grandparents?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's like a little sis. It's bad, no question,

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<v Speaker 1>you think. He was like, I'm going to put it

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and get like, well guess what it was

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<v Speaker 1>a girl? Oh my god? That changed it. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>empowered empowered from so it's basic female serial killers. The

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<v Speaker 1>police detective said that like, based on a preliminary investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>they felt like it was a credible thing that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't sure um, but believed based on what

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<v Speaker 1>the girl said and what the kids that she had

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<v Speaker 1>interacted with said that it had really happened. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>there was like a boy came home and told his

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<v Speaker 1>parents about it and they were they were like, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>She told anyone that it was cremine because she could

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<v Speaker 1>have has done it and gotten away with it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is also crazy. That's yeah, you wouldn't get any fun

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<v Speaker 1>out of that, though, if you were the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>person who would get fun out of like you would

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<v Speaker 1>have to see the reaction otherwise. There was a girl

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<v Speaker 1>at Tessaized High School who got in trouble for bringing

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<v Speaker 1>weed brownies to school and putting them in the teacher's lounge,

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<v Speaker 1>and this feels very like of that kind of well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, you would actually see maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>the effects of your work. I hate to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>a forbidden topic on the podcast, but one time I

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<v Speaker 1>was at a party and I ate these chocolate chip

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<v Speaker 1>cookies and then this girl was like, guess what the

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<v Speaker 1>secret ingredients? No, we all know what it is, the

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<v Speaker 1>condiment that we condent. And then I almost speared. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it did spewed, so he just felt. This week's

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<v Speaker 1>That's nightcall dot robin hood dot com. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like people did weird pranks with food when it was

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<v Speaker 1>still legal to like have handmade trick or treat candy?

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, I was never allowed to eat the like

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<v Speaker 1>not packaged unless it was an apple, which also you

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<v Speaker 1>could definitely but none of those things ever happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's so sad because I think that if Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>was a night where you went around and ate cookies

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<v Speaker 1>that like your neighbors made, that would be the sweetest,

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<v Speaker 1>the most wonderful, heartwarming holiday. Human experiment. Yeah, does not

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<v Speaker 1>allow such happy. I think people eat cookies that their

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors make, but sometimes they turn out to have like

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<v Speaker 1>mystery ingredients that you wish you didn't know about. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I find that at least my neighbors, many of them

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<v Speaker 1>have strong feelings about any kind of sugar, including cookies,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the neighbors you have to have some of

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<v Speaker 1>the some of those and some not those. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to navigate on Halloween for sure. Oh that sounds impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a show once that was called Like My

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<v Speaker 1>Strange Obsession. It was like, oh, yes, I know, the

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<v Speaker 1>parallel show to Like My My Strange Addiction or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just people that were obsessed with things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best show. There was one episode about a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's obsessed with mustard another guy who's obsessed with catchup,

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<v Speaker 1>and they never meet in the episode what they just

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<v Speaker 1>show their parallel lives and they both have wives who

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<v Speaker 1>are like very fed up with them and like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they would be into anything else. For like

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, the mustard guy like brushes his teeth with mustard,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mustard guy is like a mustard superior. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it back to condiments that guys like, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a mustard supremacist and the other guy is like

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<v Speaker 1>a ketchup supremacist. I have an issue with this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>only one kind of ketchup that's worth its salt, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would behind ketchup and every other ketchup is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>team Mustard for sure. But there was another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>this show about a person who was into dumpster diving

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<v Speaker 1>and was obsessed with dumpster diving, and they foraged a

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<v Speaker 1>meal and then invited over all their neighbors and friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everybody ate the meal and then they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what all that food came from the trash and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody had different reactions. Whatever, they all have to get

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<v Speaker 1>over it. It's fine, we should all be dumpstered. Wait wait,

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<v Speaker 1>was this was this captured on film in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna watch it so hard. Oh, it's just amazing

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like everyone's enjoying it until they find out

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<v Speaker 1>just from the dumpster and then they're like social conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>kicks in and they're all like, oh, no, is this

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<v Speaker 1>on any I think? Okay, I whatever. The people who

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<v Speaker 1>were mad about it can go from You just should

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<v Speaker 1>be given a choice, Yeah, you should. You should be

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<v Speaker 1>given it. I know. I'm just like, I'm such a

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<v Speaker 1>freak about like not wasting cookies. Is you should be

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<v Speaker 1>told beforehand and given a choice, and then it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fun it's a fun and how event at your school.

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<v Speaker 1>Not like I thought it was eyeballs. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was Peel's grapes. But guess what it as eyeballs this time?

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<v Speaker 1>We Um, we want to take a bunch of night

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<v Speaker 1>emails slash calls today on the show. Yeah, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>spooky Halloween spirits, we have a backlog and ghosts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to return to the topic of whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not Jesus is a ghost and um, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>night email from our friend John the Theologian. Theologian, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very much the amateur when it comes to all the

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<v Speaker 1>religious matters on this podcast. It's because there's a willco song.

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<v Speaker 1>John wrote, I'm a professor of theology and the Twin

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<v Speaker 1>Cities of Minnesota I want to try and answer your

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<v Speaker 1>question from the last pot on the Holy Ghost and

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<v Speaker 1>whether Jesus is a ghost. There is a word for

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<v Speaker 1>ghost in the New Testament, but it only appears a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. The Greek word is fantasma, and it

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<v Speaker 1>means something like specter, apparition or ghost. It occurs on

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<v Speaker 1>both occasions in different versions of Jesus walking on the

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<v Speaker 1>water towards his disciples in a boat and they think

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<v Speaker 1>they have seen a ghost. They are terrified and cry out,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jesus tells them to have courage and not be afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>The ghost and holy ghost is related to the German

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<v Speaker 1>geist spirit, but we do not tend to use ghost

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<v Speaker 1>any longer to mean spirit, which is why the common

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<v Speaker 1>English translation is now holy Spirit. The resurrected Jesus has

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<v Speaker 1>some of the characteristics of a spirit, but also elements

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<v Speaker 1>of his physical body, since he can grill, fish, eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and retains the wounds of his crucifixion on his hands

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<v Speaker 1>and feet. Straightforwardly, the resurrected Jesus is not a ghost

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<v Speaker 1>to my mind, but this amalgam of human and spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for your pod, but Molly, please do not hail

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<v Speaker 1>or some in Satan anymore. It scares me. Agreed, John,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying, Um, I love that email. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>very it's very informative. Yeah, we also edited down. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of information that was really interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>can post it just because I think I always assumed

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<v Speaker 1>that the reason that it was spirit now in most

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<v Speaker 1>translations and not ghosts is because like to not scare

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<v Speaker 1>kids or something like. I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of a lot of religions gets like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the weirder parts sort of like stand it away in

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<v Speaker 1>different parts. My favorite thing is that like angels or

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<v Speaker 1>like not, like a lot of them are like described

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<v Speaker 1>as like being actually terrifying headless things with like a

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<v Speaker 1>zilian eyeballs all over the wings and stuff. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool and metal as hell, and that should be

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<v Speaker 1>the dominant I do when you imagine an angel, now

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<v Speaker 1>you're automatic imagination. Should he Star had a dark fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>novel about cool angels with eyeball when Yeah, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>I figured that the ghost thing was just one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Anything that seems like a holdover from paganism

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<v Speaker 1>is always a chill part of Christianity. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that Jesus is a spirit who grills in. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that that was the example of what makes the

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<v Speaker 1>human as you can grill and eat fish. Imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>you were like haunted by a spirit that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a benevolent spirit, but that for dinner became not entered

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<v Speaker 1>its material to digest exactly. Yeah, it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people's dream relationship. I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a common question, but I feel like nobody has

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<v Speaker 1>ever answered it properly for me. But what happens if

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire eats food? Doesn't just hang out inside there

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. No, they don't, but what if

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<v Speaker 1>they did? But sometimes I feel like in some things

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<v Speaker 1>they do eat food to like like act normal or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it's disgusting to them or like or there's

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<v Speaker 1>no no sensation whatsoever. I imagined like a stomach that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a dead end. And maybe that's when the Jesus goes.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about so you're saying us, the sandwich never

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<v Speaker 1>goes the sand which becomes a vampire? Right? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it turns into it like liquefies and turns into

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<v Speaker 1>tears and sweats. Maybe it's supplies. It's what makes them

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<v Speaker 1>like Sparkling could be there, sparkles, little sandwiches, liball, Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>things that are creepy and of another time. We also

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<v Speaker 1>got a night email from Naomi. She sent us a

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<v Speaker 1>link that was so scary, so scary. Okay, Hi guys,

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<v Speaker 1>love you guys so much, best podcast ever. You're welcome, Naomi,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Watch this a mr video of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in a plague doctor costume, which you probably know is

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<v Speaker 1>like a mask with a beak beaking you to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool and thought you guys would enjoy if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it already. He also did a video of

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<v Speaker 1>a health exam in the costume. I can't stop watching.

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<v Speaker 1>With a link that we will, we can maybe throw

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit of audio here, Yeah, live audio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so scary. Are you pulling it up and pulling

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<v Speaker 1>it up so it's gonna hunt you? That is so

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<v Speaker 1>very good. Don't be seeing you. It's this time once

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<v Speaker 1>more you're baking. I feel I have not already done,

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<v Speaker 1>so make yourself most pools. What the pick? Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough for a while. Um I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>beaking you to sleep means outside. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>would think that would not anything me to sleep. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that would keep me awake. It's like a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four thousand views at time of recording. Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>another one that's got a million. That's the plague. Patiently,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a burgeoning subculture. I mean this is a good

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to create like a constructed urban Internet

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<v Speaker 1>urban legend or like creepy pasta type thing. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Plague dr A SMR is pretty good. Well also

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<v Speaker 1>because when you guys tried to put it in, it

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<v Speaker 1>came out as like a phone number for both. We

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<v Speaker 1>should try calling the phone. No, you know, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure that it was. When I forwarded the email, I

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<v Speaker 1>was also looking up a spam call and it ended

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<v Speaker 1>up pyperlinking. But do you guys know what those like

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<v Speaker 1>what the mask is from, and stuff like why people

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<v Speaker 1>wore those masks? Why don't you tell our listeners? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was because I just looked it up. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to Um, they weren't actually doctors. They were like

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of like moonlighting doctors who weren't totally certified, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>treated patients with the bubonic plague, and so they would

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<v Speaker 1>wear these giant beak masks that were filled with like

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<v Speaker 1>different herbs and you know, things that smelled good because

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<v Speaker 1>the smell was what was thought to transmit the plague.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's he's being a plague doctor a s MR.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's wearing his creepy anti plague mask. Yeah were

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<v Speaker 1>they This one looks like it's leather though or skin,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a fetish item for people that are into

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<v Speaker 1>like steampunk, right, plague steampunk because they're so creepy looking.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one in Yes, I feel like most people

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<v Speaker 1>associated with Ice wide shut now in our modern era,

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<v Speaker 1>which because I turn you associated with a sex cult. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a kink object. I don't know. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>were like what is it? They're like Venetian masks, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mask representing this thing everybody would know about

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<v Speaker 1>of the plague doctors. Uh, and then we all associated

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<v Speaker 1>with ice Wade shuts. The lighting in this video and

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<v Speaker 1>the perspective is what also just makes it super scary. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>all you see is the beat, you're getting beaked. You are.

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<v Speaker 1>Masks are terrifying. Masks are the worst. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying when we were talking about scary things, like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of that many movies that scare me,

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<v Speaker 1>but person in a mask, that's a lot of them. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like even just when Tom Cruise shows up in his

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<v Speaker 1>Max because he has like the tragedy mask like looks

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<v Speaker 1>like which I and it's so scary. It's so scary

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a face on the outside, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the actual face. I don't know what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the scariest thing in the world. You're afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>being tricked. I am. I'm afraid of I'm afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>people's That's the most interesting thing to think about, though,

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<v Speaker 1>the scary mask that everybody wears. Man, it's on your mask,

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<v Speaker 1>on your face. No, it's weird too, because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>there is a thing where like when a face becomes

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<v Speaker 1>too mask like, it's scary. Certain people have made their

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<v Speaker 1>faces look more like masks and it's become sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like like do you mean future human diamond Chris Janner. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the thing is like, what at what

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<v Speaker 1>point does it become like it crosses the on Canny

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<v Speaker 1>Valley until like that's not exactly what a human faces. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I had this idea for a short film that

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<v Speaker 1>would just be about like the creation of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the opening titles of a housewife film they say their

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<v Speaker 1>name and their catchphrase for the season. But like the

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<v Speaker 1>idea a housewife film. Did I say a housewife film?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, yes, um no, but like like

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of like a woman who's on one of

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<v Speaker 1>these shows and then has had so much work done

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<v Speaker 1>since filming that part that like she's going in to

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<v Speaker 1>approve that and like do her like voiceover for it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but like she doesn't recognize herself and the image anymore

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, I've been watching Real Housewives of Orange County,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the scariest and worst but also like interesting

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<v Speaker 1>bad of all the Real Housewives. Did you just call

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<v Speaker 1>it the scariest? Yes, the Trump voters, Yeah, Orange County. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also the oldest in the franchise, which means

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<v Speaker 1>they're now dealing with mortality, which is also so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are that? Oh? And to bring it back

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<v Speaker 1>to mains, I told you guys about when I was

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<v Speaker 1>keeping up with the Kardashi. That's where I brought it

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<v Speaker 1>Chris check. They did a whole plotline about Kim wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to become a mortician. That was actually a good plotline

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<v Speaker 1>where they went to do makeup at like a funeral

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<v Speaker 1>home and she was like, are we going to do

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<v Speaker 1>makeup on a dead body? I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>can handle it. And then it's like a person who

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<v Speaker 1>plays a dead body for you to do makeup. So

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like Kardashians is just becoming cruel show. Now, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it totally is the house over here. I don't At first,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to think about putting makeup on

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<v Speaker 1>a dead body, but then I said, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>second and go for it. It It turns out putting makeup

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<v Speaker 1>on dead bodies is my passion and I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they did like a contour on the dead body.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, it's amazing you can make someone look

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<v Speaker 1>perfect for their afterlife forever. The other thing was Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Jenner finding out about a thing where you can have

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<v Speaker 1>your cremines made into a diamond, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>should I do that? I'm saying I would do That

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<v Speaker 1>issue inevitably was that she was like, I have too

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<v Speaker 1>many relatives and I'd want them all to have one. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd all be beaten down the door for some

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<v Speaker 1>of that Chris Jenner Haunted Diamond. They were like all

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<v Speaker 1>into it. They were all like, oh, you could become

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<v Speaker 1>a diamond, Like, let's all be diamonds when we die.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think about it, almost anything is better than

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of prevailing to popular options. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you want to you don't want to just be like

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in an urn waiting to become cookies. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be like in the ground taking up all

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<v Speaker 1>this real estate. They could be like and all your

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<v Speaker 1>chemicals leashing into the reaching out. Um. Do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know about the mushroom bag? No? Oh yes, because General

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Mlini got into it. It's called I think it's called

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<v Speaker 1>like the mushroom death bag. I know about this because

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<v Speaker 1>David met the woman who invented it at a at

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<v Speaker 1>a festival somewhere. But it's supposed to be just like

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<v Speaker 1>a zero footprint um burial method, because you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you just bury a body raw, if you raw talking,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually really bad too, because like our bodies have

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff in them, Like it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know, putting your dog in the backyard

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<v Speaker 1>or something, Well, that's not supposed to be good either.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're supposed toning you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>I think usually when you put down your animal, like

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<v Speaker 1>they suggest cremation, right, Um, So the mushroom death bag

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<v Speaker 1>is zipped up like body bag that you're put in,

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 1>and there are like spores in the material of the bag,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when you're buried, they basically eat you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart so that there's no don't maggot seat bodies anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that what really happens to bodies in the ground supposedly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think eventually, yeah, But I think first it's all

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<v Speaker 1>your good kind of Yeah, you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>I was really into mummification always sure. That always seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a great So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic a biodegradable bag, like the whole thing. It's like annihilation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird because I was going to be like, what

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>about just like planting everyone's bodies in a grove you

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>can go see, Yeah, mushroom death bags see your dad friends,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be weird. I guess, yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Oh you mean like, oh, when you grow

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<v Speaker 1>into a tree. Oh when you know you mean the

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<v Speaker 1>annihilation treat people? Yes, yeah, death suit. I'm sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a death. I would like to be eaten by mushrooms

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>because then you'd be like a mushroom. What kind of

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>mushrooms do you think they are? They like edible? Could

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<v Speaker 1>this become another then somebody eats it and gets your personality? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I thought the Cremine's cookies were going

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<v Speaker 1>to lead to. There was a really good erie Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>about a girl getting a heart transplant from a kid

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<v Speaker 1>who dies in their class, and then she becomes the

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<v Speaker 1>kid who she got the heart transplant from. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, that's the only thing that makes sense. But

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<v Speaker 1>also when you think about yeah, like the like you

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<v Speaker 1>know I transplant and then you're seeing things through it

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<v Speaker 1>makes no logical sense, but like as a child, you're

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<v Speaker 1>like sure, of course, because it's their eyes. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>your head. Guys, would you like to hear a spooky

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<v Speaker 1>tale from producer Rachel? Yes? So this night email comes

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<v Speaker 1>from none other than our own producer Rachel, who says,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was nineteen, I worked at a grocery store

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<v Speaker 1>as a cashier, it was always cold, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a hoodie and it was really cold, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had the hood up. A customer sidled up to the counter,

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<v Speaker 1>a middle aged man, but he didn't have anything to buy. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, where's your bag. I had no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about and gave him a look. He

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>asked again, where's your bag? And I thought he had

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>left bags at a different cashier and had come back

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>for them, and then that was what he meant. But

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<v Speaker 1>he said again, where's your bag? Come on, let's go. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>I took down my hoodie and said what. Immediately he recoiled, muttered,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not my daughter and slink off back into the store.

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<v Speaker 1>No word on why he thought his daughter would be

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<v Speaker 1>behind the cashier's counter, but it was definitely the weirdest

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>story I've ever experienced about a mistaken identity. And I

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<v Speaker 1>tell this story to anyone who insists they know me

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<v Speaker 1>but who I've definitely never met before. Stay spooky, Rachel,

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<v Speaker 1>I find the thing that that thing of when somebody

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<v Speaker 1>uh is like you look just like something I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I that is the number one conversation killer of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because it's usually the first thing that somebody says

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<v Speaker 1>to you when they meet you, and there's nowhere to

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<v Speaker 1>go after that. Yes, exactly, no idea what to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love some advice from people if they know

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<v Speaker 1>what to say. If somebody says you look just like

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Beth, I always say like, I am your friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's me. She says, Hi's that just happened to me?

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>A traitor Joe's the guy said. He asked if I

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<v Speaker 1>was from upstate New York, and I was like, not really.

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's just a pickup line. Sometimes no, no, But

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, like, you have my friend's face. Well

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about yeah, exactly, it's in the air. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually got another night email about voiced appelgangers Emily.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily has a voice doppelganger. Right, hey, night call. It's funny.

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Emily mentioned that she's never been presented with a doppelganger

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because her voice, specifically her laugh, reminds me of a

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<v Speaker 1>friend's voice. I even texted my friend about it back

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<v Speaker 1>in February. The similarity between the voices is sort of uncanny,

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>because it's not that Emily and my friend have the

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>exact same voice. And laugh. It's more that when I'm

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>listening to Nightcall and Emily laughs, I have a brief

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but distinct reminder of my friend. It's like they are

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>somehow linked in the spiritual realm. Two ghost that's us,

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the two ghosts. Thanks. Um. I wish that that person

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>would call in so we could we could hear yeah,

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're our doppelgangers or voiced. I did a podcast

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I did a while ago. I forget what podcast of mine.

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>It was with Shelby Faroh, and I felt like she

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and I it was like talking to myself kind of.

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>We talked about Archie a lot, and I was just like,

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>it was like that Jeff of like the two Spider

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Man's pointing at each other. Just wait, like all the

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>same things. Um, what's up, She'll be Come on Niccall,

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<v Speaker 1>come on Nightcall. Talk about Sabrina. I'm so excited for

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<v Speaker 1>Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. It's like the only TV show

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<v Speaker 1>I care about. We were talking about that with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>at the film festival this weekend because we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're excited about Suspiria, but also like we want the

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<v Speaker 1>light version of it too, we want version No. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so excited for that. I also I've heard good things

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<v Speaker 1>about the Hulu show Light as a Feather. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently like a like a craft knockoff TV show about

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<v Speaker 1>girls who play light as a feather and spooky things happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody watched the new Charmed No, I think it just started.

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Emily, I'll watch it. I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched any version of it before. I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Haunting version, which is notable for having

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<v Speaker 1>cool person in a great code. Yeah, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>And I would like watch it on TBS all the

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<v Speaker 1>time up to that part and be like, Okay, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. It's a great book. I was saying. Shirley

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson is one of my favorite people ever, really cool,

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<v Speaker 1>good writer, and I'm glad she's getting more adaptations of

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>things because they're all really good. She's a really good

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<v Speaker 1>novel about a family that's like left alone and think

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<v Speaker 1>they're a doomsday cult, like a rich family. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun Dial. It kind of reminds me of Hereditary

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways. It's like this creepy family, like isolated

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<v Speaker 1>from everyone, and then there's a storm that sounds perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have more important Halloween programming over the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, but please give us recommendations of things

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that you think we should check out at two four

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of you, So we're going to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but we want more things. We gotta do what we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do our Halloween deep dive. Oh yeah, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to go and I need to watch them all because

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<v Speaker 1>I've only seen the first one. And Halloween three, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the scariest Halloween that has nothing to do with

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the other ones, is about like a mask that you

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<v Speaker 1>put on your face and you can't get it off.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Things are the scariest thing. It's like a toy company

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<v Speaker 1>puts out these masks, these like have free Halloween masks

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<v Speaker 1>and then the kids put them on and they like

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<v Speaker 1>go to your face and you can't never get them off.

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<v Speaker 1>That terrifying. It'll make an imprint in my face. This

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<v Speaker 1>can be part of our Girls in boots is scary movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Readboot Someone was like, it's Halloween. I wonder if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do the girls in booties. We are always

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>booties and always We have one more night email that

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<v Speaker 1>we want to read before we uh right off into

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<v Speaker 1>the spooky sky. Um. This is from Rony in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>and she says it's currently oo to one in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very Australian and uh. I just drove from

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.959
<v Speaker 1>the South coast of Sydney to the city. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half and it gave me time

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up on two of your podcasts. I'm currently

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<v Speaker 1>at the Pablo and Cheese episode. I love a good

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>night drive with podcasts. That's good. She has two questions. What.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently turned thirty and I received a swim with

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<v Speaker 1>the Sharks Aquarium voucher for the Sydney Aquarium. I've grown

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<v Speaker 1>up surfing on the South Coast of Australia and now

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney most days, and I'm terrified of sharks. I freeze

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<v Speaker 1>and grab onto my board when I get a freaky

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<v Speaker 1>feeling out the back when I'm solo surfing. It usually

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<v Speaker 1>drives me to paddle into shore. I'm not sure whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not I should cash in this voucher. I need

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<v Speaker 1>your advice. Well, either freak me out even more and

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go into the ocean, or will it help

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<v Speaker 1>me overcome my fear of sharks. I'm worried I will

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<v Speaker 1>also freeze up and be like a floating starfish on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface of the shark tank. Also strongly against animal

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<v Speaker 1>captivity in any form. Help and number two in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to culing hippos. We have a similar problem in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>with wild Brumbies horses that aren't native to Australia and

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>they were brought out here during the captain cook time

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<v Speaker 1>I presume, and now they're destroying native flora and fauna,

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.720
<v Speaker 1>especially in our national forests. There are four and against

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>arguments for the culling of these animals destroying native life

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>and plants. Are not killing an animal that has become

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<v Speaker 1>super iconic to our snowy Mountains region. Please weigh in

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and yes we have snowy mountains in Australia. Banky face,

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<v Speaker 1>happy night call, thank you, RONI too good eat nine

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<v Speaker 1>emails in one Um, do you guys want to start

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<v Speaker 1>with the shark tank? I would not swim with the sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting it out there, I wouldn't do it. Yeah, I

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do it either. I feel like why because I

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like if you're already surfing, you probably are already

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.439
<v Speaker 1>swimming with sharks. Isn't there something about like actually being

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<v Speaker 1>just being able to see them that would be different?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I I know what she's talking about. Because like

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<v Speaker 1>even when I was just in the cape like earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>this earlier, this summer, and I'm not I don't ever

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>think about sharks. I don't think I have a particular

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>like phobia or hang up on them. But at one

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>point I was out there and then I thought for

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a second about sharks, and then I was like, oh God,

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>there's like a shark, you know, in every corner of

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>this kind of inlet here, like they're all waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it would help. Um, I don't think

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>it would tame any fears, if you know, because it's

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>such a different scenario. Those kinds of those are like

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>tame sharks. Yeah. And also I really I find it

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>so depressive and those I mean, after after Blackfish and everything,

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I just don't like the where I

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>draw the line is like we have a science center

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>out here where you can do the touching tank, and

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's starfish and stuff. I'm kind of okay

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>with that. They kind of cut things off at a

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>level where I can deal with it. They're not like

0:37:56.360 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 1>mammals or like giant fish. Um, but I feel like

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>if you if you do that, that might karmic lee,

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>or like the plot of your life might somehow involve

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<v Speaker 1>sharks after that in a way you don't want. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it might just be depressing, which, on the

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, might give you like more empathy for sharks

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<v Speaker 1>in the wild. Maybe they should be able to eat. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really eat people though, the thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>they just bite them. Yeah, and it's it's like by accident,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not on purpose. So it's not like sharks are

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<v Speaker 1>malevolent towards humans. We just project that on them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're like beautiful, prehistoric monster looking things. It's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>gift for somebody to give somebody that is like that

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<v Speaker 1>without it being asked for. It sounds like, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>also just think it's cool that you serve all the time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to learn to serve me too. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about the Wild Brumbies which is

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<v Speaker 1>also the name of our folk album Nothing more than

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<v Speaker 1>Australians Slaying On North Mollywood. We had Brodie Lancaster on

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<v Speaker 1>and she taught us about shoe ease, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>Australian slang for a thing where you like make your

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<v Speaker 1>mates drink a beer out of their shoe, right, on

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<v Speaker 1>a dare. That's awesome. If I were going to move anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be moving to Australia, I think, I really guys, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been to Australia. I'm looking into it though

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that that's the longest fight you can take. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it and then I'm never They're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>like little gyms on on the Quantas flights out there

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<v Speaker 1>because like just to help people not get deep fainthrombosis

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, little little gyms. It's like a slim gym

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<v Speaker 1>that smaller. Yeah, they decided that was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>their their their X factor and getting passengers on like

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<v Speaker 1>free slop sh Well. I have a suggestion about calling

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<v Speaker 1>these ponies real quick, which is want to see a Brumbia.

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Look up the Brumbies, show me the show me the um.

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<v Speaker 1>But could there not be like a misty of chink

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<v Speaker 1>a tigue solution to this, because that growing up, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I thought the Misty of chink a tige

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<v Speaker 1>tail was the most ingenious a children's book about a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful horse. So's it's true. Okay, they're called the pony Penning.

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<v Speaker 1>There are these little islands chink a Tigue and as Satigue.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there's wild ponies that live there, but the

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<v Speaker 1>they were you know, overpopulating the islands and causing issues.

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<v Speaker 1>So what they do is they swim the ponies to

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<v Speaker 1>the mainland and it's the big thing, and like people

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>come from everywhere. They auction them off to people who

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>want to breed ponies or have farms or whatever. You know,

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 1>they give them like veterinary care, They do counts of

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>how many there are, and then they send back a

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable population. And so Misty was one of the you know,

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>ponies that was penned or whatever and then she became

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>but it was like a I think Misty was a

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<v Speaker 1>true story. Definitely. The pony penning is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But could you not could there not be like a

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<v Speaker 1>pony penning situation where you round up the wild the

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 1>wild brown vies. It never gets not. They do fertility

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<v Speaker 1>control as the main population management method. That's viewed as

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<v Speaker 1>the most humane. Uh, but it's also like this is

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<v Speaker 1>human being's fault, you know, yeah, exactly, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to fix it in a like good way. They're so cool.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what do they look like. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>they're just there their horses. There's kind of little their

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>regular horses that they brought to Australia from like England,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they got wild, they got lost and became feral,

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<v Speaker 1>like cool, free running tribes of horses. But it's bad

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<v Speaker 1>for the environment because they trample stuff, trample stuff. But

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>just the image of like beautiful like herds of like

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<v Speaker 1>freerunning wild horses just another selling point to move to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Australia has its problems too, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>many many problems, many many many problems. That does it

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's Now, thanks everybody for Thanks everyone for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get eaten by a shark, don't eat cookies with

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<v Speaker 1>cremins in them, don't get trampled by a brownbie, don't

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>get trampled by it. But make regular cookies for your

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 1>friends to celebrate the holiday, and you know, have a

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>nice time, and don't worry about types of sugar and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to Thanks for letting us speak you

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep O