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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Elliott, Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bravis,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and a happy victory Monday
Speaker 1: to you as we are broadcasting as usual from the
Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco,
Speaker 1: starting another work weekend. After a thirty one to six
Speaker 1: win over the Miami Dolphins, your Dallas Cowboys are now
Speaker 1: three and oh on the season for the first time
Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight. They are three and oh
Speaker 1: in a season and have a two game lead in
Speaker 1: the National Football Conference Eastern Division. Things couldn't have gone
Speaker 1: any better this weekend, probably for the Cowboys. The Giants
Speaker 1: did win on Sunday, but Cowboys. Some people raise it
Speaker 1: as taking care of business against the Dolphins. I think
Speaker 1: it was a little more than that myself. But things,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well? Things played out the way
Speaker 1: I thought they would play out in the game. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be close for a while where maybe
Speaker 1: people would be on the verge of throwing things at
Speaker 1: TV's at by halftime always. Twitter did not think it
Speaker 1: should be close at halftime, exactly based on my mentions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. And I had it picked as a twenty
Speaker 1: four to three game, and they were roughly on that
Speaker 1: schedule and late, yeah, until a late touchdown. But now
Speaker 1: I thought there was a good win, and you move
Speaker 1: on to the next one, and now things really get interesting.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Brian? You know, I felt like
Speaker 1: though that we kind of were looking at what Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn could potentially do, and the fact that he went
Speaker 1: out there and played the number of plays he did
Speaker 1: and played him effectively, I think says a lot about him,
Speaker 1: the professionalism he has. It's unfortunate that he had the
Speaker 1: two game suspension because you know, maybe we would have
Speaker 1: thought a little bit different about this Cowboys pass rush
Speaker 1: if he was in there full time. But they were
Speaker 1: able to pick things up in the second half. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I thought Miami was gonna give you
Speaker 1: the best shot. I thought they were going to play
Speaker 1: the game unconventionally, they were gonna go for it more
Speaker 1: and fourth down they did try the on side kick,
Speaker 1: which they were a step away from picking that thing
Speaker 1: off and making it work. So uh yeah. Overall, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a player for a player that the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: clearly a better team, but you know the Dolphins are.
Speaker 1: They have pride to They're not going to let you,
Speaker 1: you know, go up and down the field on him,
Speaker 1: and you know they're gonna play a little bit better defense.
Speaker 1: I felt like when they made the quarterback switch that
Speaker 1: that that that gave him any chance to being really
Speaker 1: competitive overall, because I thought the ball would go down
Speaker 1: the field. Of plays the Cowboys did give up, the
Speaker 1: big plays were down the field, so I was thinking,
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen can't make those plays where the other guy
Speaker 1: would make those plays. But good job in the second
Speaker 1: half of the defense and then good job of the
Speaker 1: offense getting go. I think the touchdown that started the
Speaker 1: third quarter really took a lot of air out of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. You know, their situation when they fumbled the
Speaker 1: ball and now they have to they give up a
Speaker 1: touchdown on that quick drive that the Cowboys have. I
Speaker 1: thought that took a lot out of them. I think
Speaker 1: based on watching them yesterday and what's happened to them
Speaker 1: in the season so far, they're a young team that
Speaker 1: when they get down, maybe it demoralizes them a little
Speaker 1: bit in the second half. Because Jason Witten told us
Speaker 1: last week, you turn on the tape, this is not
Speaker 1: like some big twelve team. They've got talent. I think
Speaker 1: they found a quarterback. It's not Ioways State, it's not
Speaker 1: always State. They found a quarterback. They've got some wide
Speaker 1: receivers that can get open to make plays. They I
Speaker 1: thought they did a nice job covering the Cowboys wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the first half. Yeah, some missopportunities as well
Speaker 1: in the passing game for Dak and those guys, but
Speaker 1: they kind of settled in. Like you said, Brian, Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn was around the ball constantly, especially in the second
Speaker 1: half of the DeMarcus Lawrence was too. They just weren't
Speaker 1: always getting home and some of the execution on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball was just better as the game
Speaker 1: went on and the talent of this team took over.
Speaker 1: That's why the guy who invented the game put four
Speaker 1: quarters in the game, right, not two. And I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as they were a better team and they
Speaker 1: just wore them down as the game went along. And
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did what they should have done. They won
Speaker 1: the game. They got to three and oz. They put
Speaker 1: up four hundred and seventy six yards total offense despite
Speaker 1: the blackout in the first half. Despite it, they still
Speaker 1: had four and seventy six yards two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: five yards rushing, just the way I told you they would,
Speaker 1: by the way. Uh two guys, Yeah, I was. I'm Mickey.
Speaker 1: My middle name is I'm right at that. You know,
Speaker 1: at some point people are going to figure that out.
Speaker 1: Sure we already have. Not the guy that called me
Speaker 1: out on Twitter saying, oh, he talked about good Miami
Speaker 1: was gonna be and they were gonna give him trouble,
Speaker 1: and then he picked him to win by thirty four
Speaker 1: to nine. He told us, you don't listen to Twitter.
Speaker 1: I read, Yes, I didn't listen to it. I read it. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I'll say what it could have been. It could have
Speaker 1: been worse for the Dolphins if you take away to
Speaker 1: that the holding penalties. You know, they had an eighteen
Speaker 1: yard run that was brought back on a Lyle Collins hold,
Speaker 1: and then they also had Connor Williams on the seventy
Speaker 1: two yard touchdown paths, So things could have been a
Speaker 1: lot worse. I just felt like that the NFL is
Speaker 1: is hard. It's a hard place to win, and when
Speaker 1: you do win, just feel good and move on. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure right now in Seattle they're feeling
Speaker 1: really poorly about the Saints going in there and kind
Speaker 1: of them knocking them around. They have so much pride
Speaker 1: about that, you know, Saints coming off a bad loss.
Speaker 1: I felt like with against the Rams, you know, they
Speaker 1: weren't even competitive in that game, and then here they
Speaker 1: go and you go up to Seattle get a nice
Speaker 1: win there. I know. It's but it's just tough to win.
Speaker 1: It's wherever you go. It's a tough place to win,
Speaker 1: you know, because these guys dull they will find a
Speaker 1: way to bring their game. And again the everybody's right here.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins clearly don't have enough personnel to play with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's not the Cowboys fault. That's the Dolphins
Speaker 1: fault for the way they built their team. But you
Speaker 1: got to play at the games, and and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: got through this one, and like everybody says, onto the
Speaker 1: next one. And and as you pointed out, Um coming
Speaker 1: out in the start of the second half and doing
Speaker 1: what they did, and Mickey looking to it as well,
Speaker 1: when you when you come out and they basically scored
Speaker 1: two touchdowns on one drive. Yeah, okay, and I made
Speaker 1: a mistake and overcame that and just went and four
Speaker 1: plays did it again, and they knew and they resolved
Speaker 1: in their mind at halftime that hey, we, as Dak
Speaker 1: said after the game, we have a chance to be
Speaker 1: a really really good team. And now let's go out
Speaker 1: and show that we are a really really good team,
Speaker 1: which is what they did at the start of the
Speaker 1: second half, you know. And and let's remember the first
Speaker 1: drive of the game, they drove right down the field.
Speaker 1: The problem was they stalled out and had to kick
Speaker 1: a field goal once they reached the eleven yard line.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like Miami stopped them. They drove right
Speaker 1: down and then they went three, and then they had
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal, and then the next time
Speaker 1: they got the ball, they drove right down the field
Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown. I think I think if it
Speaker 1: was fourteen to six at halftime, maybe everybody would have
Speaker 1: felt a little bit better. Well, I mean, Miami left
Speaker 1: ten points on the board in the first half as well,
Speaker 1: and the forty seven yard field goal, right, and like
Speaker 1: a turnover and had a drop that should have been
Speaker 1: a touchdown before the fumble recover, any challenge, it should
Speaker 1: have been challenged. Yeah, why didn't you challenge that? Or
Speaker 1: how about the Parker drop? Yeah over the middle, yeah,
Speaker 1: right down inside the five yard line. Oh no, that's
Speaker 1: the one I think, Yeah Williams, which I thought I
Speaker 1: was sorry, Yeah, we touchdown? Don't you think I thought
Speaker 1: it was? I thought it was there was movement the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a was just kept pulling at
Speaker 1: that ball and that's the only chance he had. And
Speaker 1: as I think Al Riveron said in his little video
Speaker 1: on Twitter, he still has to even though he's in
Speaker 1: the end zone, he still has to control and make
Speaker 1: a football move. And so in that instance you credit
Speaker 1: the defender. The defender e Wuzier kept him from making
Speaker 1: a football move right and knocked it out at the
Speaker 1: same time. And so I think it was worth a
Speaker 1: challenge me too. But you know, you know if I
Speaker 1: was wrong. But hey, but wait a second. I mean
Speaker 1: people were talking about that, they're oh and two, why
Speaker 1: do they have to lose and challenge that? Well, if
Speaker 1: you get a look at it and you don't think
Speaker 1: you're gonna win the challenge, save your time out, because
Speaker 1: they could have used if if Drake doesn't fumble at
Speaker 1: the end of the first half, they needed that time
Speaker 1: out to try to score a touchdown at the end
Speaker 1: of the half. Sure, And so I mean there's two
Speaker 1: ways to look at that. You're not giving up on
Speaker 1: the let me ask him or whatever, real quick, I
Speaker 1: could bigger concern. Are we still talking about the pass rush?
Speaker 1: Are we talking about the chunk plays that they're given up?
Speaker 1: That's what I was referring to earlier. They had at
Speaker 1: least I didn't count it fully, but I'm counting two
Speaker 1: nineteen yard completions. They had at least four explosive plays
Speaker 1: allowed downfield in the first half, and that's not typical
Speaker 1: of this defense, right, you know, And I mentioned, you
Speaker 1: know ten points that the Dolphins probably should have had
Speaker 1: a lead in the first half, or at least it
Speaker 1: should have been tight because Mickey's right, four of six
Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive drives in the first half stalled because of
Speaker 1: the Dack interception or a penalty or a drop or something.
Speaker 1: So either way, Dolphins hung in there in first half,
Speaker 1: and they could have had more points on the board
Speaker 1: either way. So pass rush got better in the second half,
Speaker 1: and I think you and I agreed, like they were
Speaker 1: around the ball affecting rows in a little bit more
Speaker 1: than maybe the perception was the game too. Sure he
Speaker 1: was off his mark most of the time. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Dack's interception, and he spoke to it last night.
Speaker 1: He had too much time. I counted up nine seconds
Speaker 1: to kind of scramble around two guys open. He saw
Speaker 1: he saw both guys opened at the same time, and
Speaker 1: got caught to which one to throw it too. Yeah. Actually,
Speaker 1: actually he said, I went through my progressions, my three
Speaker 1: progressions three times each. Yeah, which just doesn't happen in
Speaker 1: that point, and they throw the ball away. But but
Speaker 1: at that point, I've got I've got so much time here,
Speaker 1: I got him. I gotta take advantage of this opportunity
Speaker 1: where they're giving me this much time. I gotta make
Speaker 1: a point. The offensive line was outstanding. He was sacked
Speaker 1: once and it was covered sacked. Taco finally got him down.
Speaker 1: But to Brian's point, I mean, the chunk plays, weren't
Speaker 1: you It's not I mean you got to you gotta
Speaker 1: limit those, right, I mean, yeah, I'm sure that was
Speaker 1: the message at halftime for sure. Now they weren't really
Speaker 1: telling us what the message was at halftime, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was a pretty stern one. Well, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: it was, they gave up a whole sixty seven yards
Speaker 1: of the second half, and thirty five were on the
Speaker 1: Dolphins last drive. So I understand the chunk stuff. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why these quarterbacks throw in this league for
Speaker 1: three yards. Yeah, you know, you're not going to be perfect.
Speaker 1: Oh does it need to be better? I get it,
Speaker 1: and I'm absolutely with you. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it was six points. I get it. I'm
Speaker 1: not our Dallas is punishing opponents with chunk plays. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. You could get you know that. That's
Speaker 1: the thing that I think is really good about this
Speaker 1: offense now is you know, we've talked about its ability
Speaker 1: to run the football. Always had the ability to run
Speaker 1: the football. But now you're getting those plays down the field,
Speaker 1: you're getting those throws down the field, and they're making
Speaker 1: those big plays. And so I think it's great how
Speaker 1: the Dallas offense has taken advantage of those of their
Speaker 1: weapons and made those chunk plays. But I'm wondering on
Speaker 1: the other side, though, is it you know it? Is
Speaker 1: it because of the way the league is now, because
Speaker 1: of the past interferences and the skill level and the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and all that. Is that something we're just going
Speaker 1: to see from this defense. But I've always said, I've
Speaker 1: always said, I've always said that if they don't give
Speaker 1: up points, that's the most important thing. Well, I agree
Speaker 1: with Rod Marinelli and Christopher Shardon, those guys over there.
Speaker 1: I'll give up five hundred yards if it means I'll
Speaker 1: give up ten points. I mean, you're not going to
Speaker 1: play teams like Miami and Washington and those people every week.
Speaker 1: Sometimes somebody will get five hundred yards and score thirty
Speaker 1: one points, like Dallas did yesterday. I said this in
Speaker 1: the postgame show First Word presented by Doctor Pepper, that
Speaker 1: this defense has such a high standard, right, And you
Speaker 1: look at the first half, and there's some things you
Speaker 1: talked about the chunk players, they could clean them up.
Speaker 1: You look at the box score at the end, you
Speaker 1: said six points. Yeah, three games, opponents are seven of
Speaker 1: thirty five on third down. Absolutely, they're getting off the field.
Speaker 1: Micky mentioned how many yards they allowed in the second half.
Speaker 1: I think they're fourth and points allowed fourteen points seven.
Speaker 1: Now you know what Washington does tonight against Chicago, Yes, yes, now, yeah,
Speaker 1: they could be third after tonight if Washington scores more
Speaker 1: than twenty one. Now, some better offenses, without question, are
Speaker 1: coming up, better quarterbacks, all those things. But they're doing
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. Get off the field, get
Speaker 1: keep them out of the end zone. I think you
Speaker 1: know what the sign is, and I know there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of people probably complaining out there, is they've gotten
Speaker 1: good to the point where now it's expected for them
Speaker 1: to be perfect and it's not going to happen. You
Speaker 1: want to be better. And I thought Jeff Heath and
Speaker 1: being my column when he gets posted today, he said,
Speaker 1: we got to play to our standards. And that's what
Speaker 1: everybody kept talking about in the locker room, both offense
Speaker 1: and defense. Didn't matter who we're playing, We've got our
Speaker 1: standard we're supposed to play too. And Heath pointed out
Speaker 1: that in Marinelli standard for the defense, they were oh
Speaker 1: and two by the way they played in the first
Speaker 1: two games according versus their standard. And I said, so
Speaker 1: what do you think this time? Is he going to
Speaker 1: give you a win? He goes, well, I don't know
Speaker 1: it's better but half a win, see what he has
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, but that I thought that was a
Speaker 1: good approach for them to keep continue to take. You
Speaker 1: have a standard that you want to play too, and
Speaker 1: did you play to it? You didn't in the first half,
Speaker 1: you did in the second half. Now you got to
Speaker 1: put that together for a full game because they owe
Speaker 1: and two means he didn't like those last drives in
Speaker 1: those first two games that allowed the team just to
Speaker 1: just drive right down this field and score when you
Speaker 1: had held a team to ten and fourteen points for
Speaker 1: three and a half quarters. Can this offense maintain this
Speaker 1: scoring pace? I mean what you always like to talk
Speaker 1: about what you saw the last eight games of the season.
Speaker 1: Last night with the trade for Maury Cooper and then
Speaker 1: now three games in. I mean, we can talk about
Speaker 1: the playoff games if you want. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: want to include that or not, I think you have to.
Speaker 1: But can this offense maintain that level to maybe the
Speaker 1: word mask is probably the wrong word to use, but
Speaker 1: kind of soften maybe some of the issues that defense
Speaker 1: might had that we didn't see. Whether they're not going
Speaker 1: to score over thirty points a game every week, and
Speaker 1: there's only two teams in the league that have scored
Speaker 1: thirty points or more in each of the first three games,
Speaker 1: and those are the Patriots and the Cowboys. And now
Speaker 1: the question is can they What you're talking about is
Speaker 1: it's not so much over thirty points but the scoring
Speaker 1: pace in terms of around Can they give me twenty six?
Speaker 1: Really possible? Because the offensive line, they weren't happy with
Speaker 1: the way they pass protected in particular last year, pass
Speaker 1: protection has been outstanding. If Dad continues to have those
Speaker 1: clean pockets, they have guys that can separate, and Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup will get back eventually, hopefully below that four week time.
Speaker 1: He's not going to practice this week though, but hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, closer than two weeks than four, right, That's
Speaker 1: what Stephen Jones kind of indicated us in pre game.
Speaker 1: That's hopefully sooner than later. They have so many weapons that,
Speaker 1: like we talked about, eventually throughout a game they're going
Speaker 1: to take over. Yeah. So not to mention Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: now getting into the mix. If we go back to
Speaker 1: last year when I pointed out five of eight games
Speaker 1: twenty seven or more, now you've got eight of eleven
Speaker 1: games twenty seven or more, and six of those eight
Speaker 1: are thirty points or more. Yeah, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if they can keep it up, but there I think
Speaker 1: that they can average somewhere. You know what, they're showing
Speaker 1: us twenty seven points or so, they're averaging thirty. So
Speaker 1: they were average thirty three going in. They got thirty one,
Speaker 1: so it's probably about thirty two. Now what were they
Speaker 1: for the season last year, like twenty one? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the first eight games. But my point is they're they're
Speaker 1: just better than that this year. Yeah, they're just a
Speaker 1: more efficient group. Well, they have a better talent. Right,
Speaker 1: I'll see you what you show me that you can
Speaker 1: have two guys run the football the way they do,
Speaker 1: they can do some damage to some teams because all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you're starting to think about, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've got to I've got to I've got to cover
Speaker 1: the whole field. And now I mean it's taking players
Speaker 1: out of the box to have to cover the whole field.
Speaker 1: And now you're running the ball up inside. You can
Speaker 1: hand it to twenty one or twenty and you're gonna
Speaker 1: get that's we're gonna get. Orleans has been doing here
Speaker 1: the last several years with Ingram and Kimara, and now
Speaker 1: they've got Murray and Kimara. Kimar though he took over
Speaker 1: the yesterday Holy Chief. Yeah. Yeah. It was two players
Speaker 1: in that game on offense for the Saints, Thomas and Kamara.
Speaker 1: That's it. Screens inside routes, screen inside routes. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna you are going to run into better defenses. There's
Speaker 1: no question about it. Green Bays arguably the best in
Speaker 1: the league so far. Watching a little bit of the
Speaker 1: Rams last night, those guys tackle their tackle world. There
Speaker 1: they pressure you. I mean, they're gonna run into tougher opponents,
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But you have to like
Speaker 1: what they're doing. The thing I like about this this
Speaker 1: team after three games is we talked about the standard
Speaker 1: on defense. Dak going to Kellen after the game. My bad,
Speaker 1: I'm too greedy. In the first half, they're not satisfied.
Speaker 1: And I remember two thousand and eight. I don't know
Speaker 1: why it's burned in my memory, but their tunnel of
Speaker 1: Lambeau Field. They're they're three and oz. They just kind
Speaker 1: of stomped the Packers in Week three and one of
Speaker 1: the one player I can't remember who it was, but
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, we just want to fast
Speaker 1: forward and get this thing to the playoffs. And I
Speaker 1: remember thinking, in my mind, that's not the best. It's
Speaker 1: probably not the best approach to have. And I don't
Speaker 1: see that from these guys, at least that's not the
Speaker 1: way they convey to us how they're thinking. They might
Speaker 1: have fast forward the playoffs. It went for Brad Johnson
Speaker 1: have to play three games to just pointing that out
Speaker 1: well and to that point, as far as this Dolphins
Speaker 1: game is concerned, I love where it was in the
Speaker 1: Cowboys schedule and and the way this schedule was set
Speaker 1: up with a Giants team in flux, a Redskins team
Speaker 1: in flux, and a Dolphins team the way it is
Speaker 1: because this has built confidence for this team the first
Speaker 1: three games. And if this Dolphins game had been scheduled
Speaker 1: in November, like in between the Eagles and the Patriots
Speaker 1: or something like that, it could have been a trap
Speaker 1: game for him. Whatever, they weren't going to lose it.
Speaker 1: But now in my mind, the season starts. Add Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton said, welcome to the preseasons. Now over, get
Speaker 1: ready for the regular season. Here we go. That's seventh,
Speaker 1: the Post add the Eagles to a team that might
Speaker 1: be in flux. You know, if you're talking about teams
Speaker 1: you have to face here in the next next three
Speaker 1: weeks or so next four weeks. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: and somebody asked me today question about if if they
Speaker 1: go into New Orleans and lose, you know, is that
Speaker 1: tell you what this team is? And it's like a
Speaker 1: lot of teams have gone into New Orleans on Sunday
Speaker 1: night and gotten beaten, you know, and it happens. But
Speaker 1: New Orleans would be a team in flux if we
Speaker 1: didn't see what we saw yesterday in Seattle. I think
Speaker 1: it's a little different. Yeah, if if they've gone over
Speaker 1: and rolled over in Seattle and it would have been
Speaker 1: a bad loss, then you would have seen a definitely
Speaker 1: team in flux. But but you said it, that's shot
Speaker 1: out team. Sean Payton is going to play to the
Speaker 1: strengths of Teddy Bridgewater. He is just get ready, he is.
Speaker 1: It's not Drew Brees's offense. This is going to be
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the screen to Taysom Hill. They're gonna
Speaker 1: throw the ball the Kamara, They're gonna hand him the ball.
Speaker 1: They still have a big, physical offensive line. You know
Speaker 1: that that is that is still a team, like you said, Mickey,
Speaker 1: when you down there and play them, it will look different. Though.
Speaker 1: With Teddy Bridgewater playing quarterback. He it's remarkable how bad
Speaker 1: he looked in the second half or when he had
Speaker 1: to play in that Rams game, to how he looked
Speaker 1: in that game yesterday. Just they just the fact that
Speaker 1: he got to prepare a week for the game made
Speaker 1: it a lot different. Hey, and we're talking a guy
Speaker 1: started games in this league, right, It's not like he's
Speaker 1: one of these young guys coming and got a good roster.
Speaker 1: And if you look at what all these backup quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and young quarterbacks making their first starts did yesterday, a
Speaker 1: majority of them one. Yeah. So yeah, you know it's
Speaker 1: not easy, this is the league. But you know if
Speaker 1: you lose one and it's not over, well, Dennis Allen's
Speaker 1: not going to be able to sleep very well watching tape.
Speaker 1: He I mean, he watches all three games. Their breakdowns
Speaker 1: are gonna he's gonna see a lot of big plays
Speaker 1: for this Cowboys offense. He's gonna see a running game.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden that they've got two guys
Speaker 1: that can really hammer the ball at you. And they
Speaker 1: got a quarterback that, when he makes good decisions, he
Speaker 1: could throw the ball just as good as anybody in
Speaker 1: the league. That's going to be tough on them to
Speaker 1: have to defend so and they'd better have a plan
Speaker 1: to take to take care of of number nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Miami had no clue. Yeah, you know, you think
Speaker 1: he took his matchup seriously. He got asked about, just
Speaker 1: like everybody else, did you taking these guard against taking
Speaker 1: these guys too lightly? I think he told Clarence they
Speaker 1: got a Pro Bowl corner over there who I've played
Speaker 1: against before. Yeah, he took it serious. So it was
Speaker 1: six of eighty eight for two touchdowns, and he primarily
Speaker 1: was on him almost every play, and he lost them,
Speaker 1: lost them. Ryan wrote a vose on some of the
Speaker 1: route he ran on the first touchdown, I think five
Speaker 1: yards that that was just beautiful. Yeah, he set him
Speaker 1: up nicely on that. All Right, we're I think we
Speaker 1: can probably take some phone calls as we go along
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Speaker 1: not a sellout yet apparently not. I figured all the
Speaker 1: cheese heads would show up for that one, hey will, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get ready. Absolutely, we haven't let those tickets become available
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Speaker 1: What they'll do. So it's the Saint Sun's Sunday night,
Speaker 1: and then it will be the Packers the following Sunday
Speaker 1: on October sixth. Things get good here, They do get
Speaker 1: good here. And that pass rush with Quinn in there,
Speaker 1: hmm okay. After the game I asked him, I said,
Speaker 1: so do you how many head? Any idea? How many
Speaker 1: players you played? And he goes, you know, about fifty
Speaker 1: And I said, did you plan to do that? Did
Speaker 1: you think he would play that much? And he goes,
Speaker 1: whatever they needed, Well, he played forty five. He ends
Speaker 1: up with three tackles, one sack, one tackle for a loss,
Speaker 1: one quarterback hit. They should come up with another category,
Speaker 1: menace because he was a menace in the pocket. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He caused people to keep moving, keep rosen, keep moving.
Speaker 1: I like that, and and he's got such a quick
Speaker 1: now maybe fresh legs, I don't know, but that first
Speaker 1: step of his he's coming around that corner like his
Speaker 1: hair was on fire. And so this is gonna make
Speaker 1: a difference on that side of the field, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna help MALIEK Colin. We talked about it, sure, and
Speaker 1: Malik came through for that tackle and it was like, man,
Speaker 1: he looked like he was shot out of a cannon
Speaker 1: on It was his sack right the tackle behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So yeah, you know when people have
Speaker 1: to start worrying about him now, it's gonna make a
Speaker 1: huge difference. Do you think about the way Christian Covington
Speaker 1: played inside? You know what I was. He went out
Speaker 1: with the calf injury and I was like, oh geez,
Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt them inside for the depth and rotation.
Speaker 1: He came back. He didn't look his he didn't look bad.
Speaker 1: I was watching him play. You know, to me, there's
Speaker 1: so much there's so much power in his game. And
Speaker 1: you know on the on the on the Colin sack,
Speaker 1: those guys were pushing, I mean they got they were
Speaker 1: getting the Dolphins on tape had shown that they had
Speaker 1: problems with the twist stunts inside. That was something that
Speaker 1: I mentioned in my final thoughts, and so it was
Speaker 1: nice to see them get that sack the way they
Speaker 1: did and use the twist stunt. But yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: he's really good against drunk He's hard to move, big body, yeah,
Speaker 1: and just anchored out. Yeah, he just does he just
Speaker 1: you know, he's not just slug. He's just not like
Speaker 1: you know, we always talk about the trash can full
Speaker 1: of dirt just doesn't do anything, just sits there. But
Speaker 1: he's really an athletic guy. And then you put him
Speaker 1: with Collins in there, you know, you got two big
Speaker 1: men that can move, and that makes a big difference.
Speaker 1: And you and Hill wasn't bad either. The opportunities that
Speaker 1: he got, you know, to play. I was, I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was worried about him getting washed a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Sometimes we see him get real tall
Speaker 1: and then he gets washed out of the play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't happen to him in that game. He was played,
Speaker 1: his pad level was down, he got up the field
Speaker 1: a couple of times, he didn't kill him. I was
Speaker 1: worried about him getting killed in these plays. And it
Speaker 1: just didn't happen before Covington got hurt. He told me
Speaker 1: after it was kind of something like the back of
Speaker 1: his knee. Maybe it was more calf I don't know,
Speaker 1: but he came back before that. They showed some faith
Speaker 1: in Hill putting him in the goal line. They did,
Speaker 1: and he did a nice job, and they tried him
Speaker 1: to a field goal. They tried to block back on
Speaker 1: him and he got up the field real quick man
Speaker 1: made a nice play there coming hand and ended up
Speaker 1: with three tackles a quarterback and passed batted at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They had the back to back with
Speaker 1: him and Joe Jackson. Joe Jackson, right, So, yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought Covington was was fine. And you know they ran
Speaker 1: for what seventy eight yards? Yeah, well, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the opener sa Quon got loose on him one big
Speaker 1: play in particular. Actually, you know, they ran pretty fairly
Speaker 1: well the Giants did in Week one. But yeah, once again,
Speaker 1: three yards of carry total on twenty four carries for Miami.
Speaker 1: They're doing that job better than Week one for sure.
Speaker 1: Peterson last week got ten carries twenty five yards. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Jean and Washington State. How
Speaker 1: about what Chip Kelly of the UCLA Bruins did the
Speaker 1: Washington State in the second half the other day thirty
Speaker 1: two point deficited with sixty seven sixty three. But you
Speaker 1: want to talk Cowboys, Gene. Yeah, I'm not a Truers fan.
Speaker 1: So my question is for like, Brian, do you think
Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense just really played bad yesterday? I mean
Speaker 1: I watched that game. I'm not a Hawks fan at all,
Speaker 1: but it's like, I've never seen him miss that many tackles. Oh,
Speaker 1: they were bad. I mean no, I think I think
Speaker 1: Kamara had a lot to do with that. I really do.
Speaker 1: I mean, you watched when they found ways downhill running
Speaker 1: toss sweeps inside. I mean it was run a screen
Speaker 1: on the goal line in the action the red zone
Speaker 1: area for a touchdown that was well executed. I mean
Speaker 1: they got Seattle coming up the field, everybody escapes, they
Speaker 1: throw it out, boom he's up to and yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I understand what you're saying about how poorly
Speaker 1: they tackled, but I think that it has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with how good that back is, the way
Speaker 1: his ability to take the ball find a hole, make
Speaker 1: the cut, get up the field, he runs to a linebacker,
Speaker 1: he runs through a safety. You know though, that's more
Speaker 1: about him than I think how bad the Seahawks played
Speaker 1: in that football game. But it was two players that
Speaker 1: hurt him in that game. It really was. It was
Speaker 1: Thomas and Kamara. Those were the two guys that hurt
Speaker 1: them in that football game. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is going to do exactly. He's going to
Speaker 1: find a way to make Teddy Bridgewater as comfortable as
Speaker 1: possible playing here. All right, Jeane, we appreciate the call.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I mentioned the Saints would have
Speaker 1: been in flux as well as other teams, Sir, flux
Speaker 1: means something that constantly changes. But really, even with a
Speaker 1: different quarterback in Teddy Bridgewater, the Saints didn't change that much. No,
Speaker 1: they just they leaned on their big time players they've
Speaker 1: got They've got a good offensive line and it's a big,
Speaker 1: physical offensive line. Now where the Cowboys will have some
Speaker 1: advantage is to come with how well the Cowboys play
Speaker 1: with quickness. You can't rush these guys down the middle.
Speaker 1: You got to play on the edges with these guys.
Speaker 1: You got to make them move a little bit, because
Speaker 1: like the guys like Larry Woolford and those guys have problems.
Speaker 1: Yesterday in the game when all of a sudden they
Speaker 1: had big time problems against the Rams when the movement
Speaker 1: started up front, when the Rams started adjusting their guys
Speaker 1: and trying to run some twist stunts and things like that.
Speaker 1: They it's a big body group that has problems moving.
Speaker 1: You take him down the middle, they could block you
Speaker 1: all day. So it's a good time to get fifty
Speaker 1: eight back. Yeah, he could be. He could definitely. He
Speaker 1: could definitely give you some uh, you know, some some
Speaker 1: rush out there with you know, against Armstead, that the
Speaker 1: tackle for the Saints, and he's a guy that's he's
Speaker 1: a good tackle. But having having Robert Quinn rush out
Speaker 1: there's not a bad thing, all right. Jake ben Waugh
Speaker 1: at Run Emmett Run on Twitter says, I know it
Speaker 1: was later in the game, but can we please give
Speaker 1: props to Joe Thomas. Dude lane Wood all over the
Speaker 1: field yesterday embarrassment of riches at the linebacker position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: snaps in the game. Yeah, I wrote about him too.
Speaker 1: I wrote about he played a couple of different spots
Speaker 1: he actually was on the field for Jalen Smith. I
Speaker 1: think that's going to go up on Scout's eye to
Speaker 1: day later on, I guess if they haven't put it
Speaker 1: up yet. But yeah, the the Joe Thomas played played
Speaker 1: for Sean Lee and he played for Jalen Smith. And
Speaker 1: absolutely there was a couple of times where he played
Speaker 1: in coverage where he was pretty good as well. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a guy. I mean, we shouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: about Joe Thomas because we saw him all training camp
Speaker 1: have productive practices. We saw him the preseason have productive games.
Speaker 1: So Joe Thomas having a nice, you know, nice starts
Speaker 1: of the season should not be surprised to anybody. I
Speaker 1: just wonder was that a particular matchup or they just
Speaker 1: feel like he's a good linebacker, we can work him
Speaker 1: into a rotation. I think they're just trying to keep
Speaker 1: their guys fresh as they can. You know, Sean Lee
Speaker 1: just has not been the factor, and maybe it has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with how much Nicolin stuff they play.
Speaker 1: You got snaps on Lee yesterday, yes fourteen, Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is about what he's had the first two games twelve
Speaker 1: to fourteen. But he missed those impact plays though you
Speaker 1: know where he Yeah, back in the day it was
Speaker 1: a four. Here's the thing with like a Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: and a Sean Lee and others at different positions on
Speaker 1: this team. One of the reasons I feel really good
Speaker 1: about this team long term this season is the quality
Speaker 1: of the depth on the team. Well, that was the
Speaker 1: question yesterday. Could the depth? Could the depth rise up
Speaker 1: and play? And you know, you got you know, Thompson
Speaker 1: did a nice job. You know, you look at what
Speaker 1: he was able to do. We talked about Covington, you
Speaker 1: know what he was able to do. So some guys
Speaker 1: had to step up and make plays, and you know,
Speaker 1: for the most part, I felt like they did overall
Speaker 1: because I think, like, in the case of both Thomas
Speaker 1: and Sean Lee, what great insurance policies you have there?
Speaker 1: Sure if something and knock on wood and where have
Speaker 1: happened to the two starting linebackers. I wonder if they
Speaker 1: looked at what was going on defensively and thought maybe
Speaker 1: Thomas That's what I was asking Nicol was a little
Speaker 1: bit better than Jalen's because some of those coverages. Just
Speaker 1: wondering because in the first two games, I mean if
Speaker 1: if Jalen's missed any snaps, it's like a couple per game.
Speaker 1: He's pretty much the team and tackles. So didn't he
Speaker 1: have ten? Yes, Yeah, so it's a demanding position too. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen, you guys might be right about that.
Speaker 1: As far as the coverage aspect that I would never
Speaker 1: want to put him in coverage and I just don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's a good fit for him.
Speaker 1: And only played sixty five the snaps seven. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Thomas ended up playing like forty maybe looking ahead you
Speaker 1: know what, where they're gonna be here. Yeah, with both
Speaker 1: the Saints and the Packers coming up, Joe Thomas might
Speaker 1: be a factor in the game plan. Absolutely. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: didn't sub for Thompson either. He played them all. Every
Speaker 1: play he did, he played well. I thought I did
Speaker 1: play well. He showed up, right, he did show up.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing. I was worried about the ball
Speaker 1: going down the field and nobody playing with any range.
Speaker 1: By the way, you should get Woods back at practice.
Speaker 1: My next question Xavier Woods. Yeah, it's what about Antoine. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's probably h and him and
Speaker 1: Gallop both will be out for Gallop the week Gallop.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe game he would get back with the
Speaker 1: third week for the Packers games game the Packers. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Jim in Los Angeles. Next
Speaker 1: up here on Talking Cowboys. Good morning, guys, How are
Speaker 1: you actually Jim? Hi? Hey, Mickey, you're really good with stats.
Speaker 1: Tell me how many of those yards the zkad were
Speaker 1: garbage time the second of first half, in the last
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. I added it up last night. I came still.
Speaker 1: Remember it was around go ahead, really good, I've got it.
Speaker 1: Mickey's the one look up, yeah, and somebody else looking
Speaker 1: up to I looked it up last night. I can
Speaker 1: consider is that considered garbage at the end of the half?
Speaker 1: You consider that garbage because they came for the first
Speaker 1: half way away from kicking a fish. I think they
Speaker 1: tried to get I would think they were trying to
Speaker 1: kind of take advantage of if they could pop a
Speaker 1: couple of runs. It was three carries for thirty nine yards.
Speaker 1: He went from the from their own nine eleven yards,
Speaker 1: from the twenty fourteen yards, and then from the thirty
Speaker 1: four fourteen yards. But it was with a purpose. I
Speaker 1: got that mention on Twitter. You know he ran well
Speaker 1: in the first half. What he he run for thirteen
Speaker 1: for eighty six. But yeah, yeah, a couple of garbage
Speaker 1: runs into the half. Well they almost they almost got
Speaker 1: in position for a few five seconds left and a
Speaker 1: half and with with timeouts. Yeah, I mean, what a
Speaker 1: great um shrew. Surprise. I didn't there a screen to him,
Speaker 1: you know, That's what I was kind of thinking. They
Speaker 1: were maybe going to try and set something up. Everybody
Speaker 1: backed off, but maybe Freddy Kitchens was watching the Cowboy
Speaker 1: game and that's why they ran on thirty nine or
Speaker 1: fourth and nine. Yeah, either get used to their collar,
Speaker 1: do you em Are you still there? No? Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: I mean you wouldn't have considered it garbage if you
Speaker 1: hit that hill. Mary. I mean that's what they were
Speaker 1: trying to do. I thought they were trying to get shape. Well,
Speaker 1: they were a great position to get into field goal range. Yeah. Um, well,
Speaker 1: well they had two seconds left after the fourteen yard
Speaker 1: one one place short. What they were well, with thirteen
Speaker 1: seconds left, Zeke had two carries for twenty five yards
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds left there at the thirty four yard line,
Speaker 1: and they basically were one twenty five yard pass away
Speaker 1: from getting in field goal sure up for a fifty
Speaker 1: eight yard or something from our which is all you
Speaker 1: could ask for in that situation. I think that complete.
Speaker 1: I think they were happy to get out of the
Speaker 1: half though, with that fumble recovery there down there, they
Speaker 1: were kind of like, okay, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: but did you I didn't, you know, And I'm trying
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out the angle of the caller there,
Speaker 1: but I felt like I didn't feel like that really
Speaker 1: Dolphins had a really great answer for seek in that
Speaker 1: game running the ball, you know. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: there were a couple inside runs it was two yards,
Speaker 1: two yards, three yards, whatever, But when the ball got
Speaker 1: on the edge, I mean he had he had an
Speaker 1: eighteen yard run that got called back on a holding
Speaker 1: penalley he had, I mean, he had some plays. I
Speaker 1: thought he ran the ball with a lot of toughness.
Speaker 1: I don't think the caller was going into an angle
Speaker 1: bad angle there, but I just think that I think
Speaker 1: he was. Was he trying to Okay? If if that's
Speaker 1: the case, then you know, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: say other than I felt like though the physicality It's
Speaker 1: even said on the postgame show last night. And I
Speaker 1: maybe didn't watch, but it felt like every time he
Speaker 1: was running the ball, he was finishing forward. Yes, every
Speaker 1: time it was four And he had a couple of runs.
Speaker 1: One of them was where he tripped in the backfield.
Speaker 1: He was gone, but even after slipping in the backfield,
Speaker 1: he was able to scramble forward and get four or
Speaker 1: five yards on the play. And then the other play
Speaker 1: was the one that the defensive tackle for the Dolphins. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's getting a run on Twitter this morning, god chaw
Speaker 1: or whatever. Uh. He Travis's Blockadeham and kind of threw
Speaker 1: him aside. Yeah, and he got to Zeke, but he
Speaker 1: didn't make the tackle. And Zeke again, it was almost
Speaker 1: like a bear crawl for a four or five yards, right,
Speaker 1: I mean the way he was finishing runs and getting
Speaker 1: those extra yards. And it wasn't just one or two
Speaker 1: extra yards with a lean forward, it was with a vengeance,
Speaker 1: you know what. And he may be a good example
Speaker 1: for Tony Pollard because there was a couple of runs
Speaker 1: Pollard had up the middle that he pushed the pile. Yea.
Speaker 1: It might only been two yards, but it could have
Speaker 1: been zero. And that showed some toughness too. Any remaining
Speaker 1: rust that he had it was gone in this game.
Speaker 1: Brian mentioned the first drive out of the third quarter
Speaker 1: there touchdown kind of demoralized Miami. The one I liked
Speaker 1: the most was when they went up twenty four to
Speaker 1: six in the third quarter, because that was that was
Speaker 1: classic Zeke. Nine play seventy six yards, five and a
Speaker 1: half minutes and just just chewing off clock. He gets
Speaker 1: an eighteen yard run, he gets eleven yard run, he
Speaker 1: catches a pass for twelve yards, and then you know
Speaker 1: the game's over at that point. It was good stuff. Ye,
Speaker 1: very effective. I just didn't know. I'm sorry if I didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't get through the callers question the right way.
Speaker 1: But I mean, i'd never look at garbage stats before half. Now,
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, if it's thirty one
Speaker 1: to six, and you know whatever, I get, I get that.
Speaker 1: But if if it's before, I think they were trying
Speaker 1: to set something up and they popped a run, popped
Speaker 1: a run, and it's like the purpose like that. And
Speaker 1: we've we've seen him in Ox and Art all practice
Speaker 1: to Hail Mary. We've seen it take twelve minutes to
Speaker 1: just diagram one play on the field, so you know
Speaker 1: they were trying to do something with that play. Hands
Speaker 1: were pissed at that point though. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that was just frustration over the scoreboard at the end
Speaker 1: of the half. But yeah, I don't there's no way
Speaker 1: that's viewed as garbage time. They're trying to score points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if Dak had an arm, you know, he might
Speaker 1: have got it to the end zone. He didn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't quite throw it sixty yards. By the way, can
Speaker 1: I have another injury update. He just learned that Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin will practice Wednesday. Okay, so he's back in the
Speaker 1: mix now for all these wide receivers, so that teams
Speaker 1: that dressed four yesterday will have five this week to
Speaker 1: play with it. Like we talked about Friday, you just
Speaker 1: try to get through this game and hopefully you get
Speaker 1: ever picked the wrong tied in I should have picked Witton,
Speaker 1: I picked I picked the wrong tight end in our
Speaker 1: and our and the jarwin. Yeah used him a lot
Speaker 1: his cop count for me because he had a seventy
Speaker 1: four yard touchdown. Yeah, yeah, I won. I picked Okay, right,
Speaker 1: was right? And comb another another called back to I
Speaker 1: mean he was he had bad luck. Whoever he ever
Speaker 1: had Randall Cobb in fantasy football, which would include me
Speaker 1: pick the click had some bad tight end. Damn who'd
Speaker 1: you have? Bill Well? I give credit to chat O'sheay
Speaker 1: or whoever was who designed the blocking scheme for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: because they helped JaMarcus Webb out immensely in that hired
Speaker 1: And my pick was DeMarcus Lawrence and he got one sack.
Speaker 1: He got a sack, but yeah, he got one but
Speaker 1: um and in fact, Danny White on our pregame show
Speaker 1: on CBS eleven, that was his pick right there. He
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this ja Marcus Webb blessed us hard
Speaker 1: watching the same film you are well and also just
Speaker 1: looking at his history. I mean he hadn't played in
Speaker 1: the league for four years basically. Yeah, and so they
Speaker 1: knew knew they needed to help him out, and so
Speaker 1: I credit the Dolphins coaches for helping him out there.
Speaker 1: You go, well, he did have two tackles, one sack,
Speaker 1: one tackle for loss, two quarterback hurries in a force
Speaker 1: big force fumbled, by the way, But you still won,
Speaker 1: right I did? Yeah? Two hundred how many hundred? How
Speaker 1: many yards? Hundred. I'm not disagree with you. I'm just
Speaker 1: pointing out that you won. Thank you, and I bet
Speaker 1: my score was closest too. We better go to race
Speaker 1: your score and that was Mars Fallings the fifty five
Speaker 1: yard to Breakare so all right? We get carte to
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock to there, right, Yeah, we are all right,
Speaker 1: We're going to twelve and so when we come back,
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Speaker 1: There you go. What say? Are you in Milan? Very good? Look.
Speaker 1: I'd like to share with you a couple of positive
Speaker 1: takeaways from these first games and one concern for next
Speaker 1: week's one. The positive number one Ducks character yesterday because
Speaker 1: following his lobby first house the interception, he did not
Speaker 1: fight to win it alone. He raised his mistakes and
Speaker 1: kept doing his job. This to me is a sign
Speaker 1: of maturity from a very young quarterback, so I think
Speaker 1: it's very positive. Second, a good performance by the kicker,
Speaker 1: both verses Washington in Miami. I think the past has
Speaker 1: been most erratic when he came to convert short range kicks.
Speaker 1: This time he nailed them. And one concern for next
Speaker 1: game is that, in my opinion, your leans as he
Speaker 1: just says, a quarterback similar to Duck in that Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is very athletic, very good past, but he can
Speaker 1: run as well. So I'm thinking that the defense would
Speaker 1: be fairly ready for the Cowboys, at least as long
Speaker 1: as dealing with the quarterback is concerned. And I'd like
Speaker 1: to hear opinion on all these things. That's it. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your outstanding job. I look forward to talk
Speaker 1: to you again and have a great week. Guys. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Go ahead. There was too many questions
Speaker 1: for me. You keep tracking mobile quarterback. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess Rosen wasn't that mobile, not at all. And we
Speaker 1: know about I don't think Bridgewater Bridgewater. He doesn't just
Speaker 1: run run, does he? No? But I thought he was
Speaker 1: referring to the Saints being ready for a mobile quarterback
Speaker 1: with reference to Russell Wilson. Ye, maybe I'm wrong. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I you know what, there was a there
Speaker 1: was a lot to digest there. I was. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was kind of going through the points and stuff.
Speaker 1: I know that the Saints defensively, uh you know where
Speaker 1: they were they have issue And again, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about having to play a mobile quarterback like Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: with the with the read option stuff and the all
Speaker 1: the things that they deal with, the fakes and things.
Speaker 1: They're linebackers. You know, Kiko Alonzo is a good player.
Speaker 1: I think you could fool him. I think he's over aggressive.
Speaker 1: I just don't. You know, the teams that have really
Speaker 1: good linebackers tend to control running games better, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I think the Saints linebackers are good, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say great in the way they play because I saw
Speaker 1: I saw the Seattle took some advantage of them in
Speaker 1: this game that I just watched in coverage, and then
Speaker 1: also with their lack of mobility there. And I know
Speaker 1: we'll get into the Saints more tomorrow, but like aj
Speaker 1: Line was a kid I watched, and then Alonso and
Speaker 1: then you know, and Dallas is going to find a
Speaker 1: way to get you an eleven personnel and make you
Speaker 1: have to spread out and take and cover guys they
Speaker 1: dig a second half, they just they're gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: and Seattle hit on some big plays, these big plays
Speaker 1: where they move the pocket one way and then throw
Speaker 1: the ball back across the field. These are things we
Speaker 1: saw Kellen Moore do it in training camp. So if
Speaker 1: if you think that the Saints would be ready for
Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback, I'm not so sure that's the case
Speaker 1: with their linebacker. Again, Alonso is a good player, but
Speaker 1: I think he's overly aggressive. I think you could take
Speaker 1: him out of position and take advantage of some of
Speaker 1: the things that he can that he can do or
Speaker 1: the things that he doesn't do. Put it that way,
Speaker 1: when they play, I think the game plan there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot about moving these guys around and take
Speaker 1: an advantage of how aggressive they are. On defense and
Speaker 1: the corners. I mean, they got some good corners. Lattimore
Speaker 1: is a good corner, but you know, you know Eli
Speaker 1: Apple a little bit of a gambler and some of
Speaker 1: the things that he does. But I don't think their
Speaker 1: safeties are any good. Just watching a play, I know
Speaker 1: this is kind of bramling down the path. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: about our caller there. I didn't mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not just trying to tell you what to think about
Speaker 1: the Saints, but von bell in coverage is bad. And
Speaker 1: then you know Marcus Marcus Williams, I eat the range.
Speaker 1: I didn't see range from him, So when the ball
Speaker 1: is going to go down the field, when it's going there,
Speaker 1: But they had some trouble taking some stuff and out
Speaker 1: of the middle of the field, they really didn't. That's
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys attack. They attack the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: So I just overall Saints defense, I'll be interested. I
Speaker 1: think Callum More will have a good game plan for them.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they've got guys to cover.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they could do a good
Speaker 1: enough job to completely cover everything Dallas does. And that's
Speaker 1: a different type of runner than Russell Wilson. Yeah, Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's kind of us to run because he's got no protects,
Speaker 1: ramble stuff and make But Dac when he runs, it's
Speaker 1: it's like a purpose. It's a called play, right, and
Speaker 1: he catches the teams by surprise by not only his
Speaker 1: speed but how tough he is running the ball. So
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's it's it's a little bit different. And
Speaker 1: that's and he's not a small guy. By the way.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to do a study in
Speaker 1: the next twenty four to forty eight hours on Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I'm going to write that in a comparison with Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott that I mean, I know that that's been done before,
Speaker 1: but it might be more pertinent right now where Dak
Speaker 1: is in his career. Well, yeah, the thing about the
Speaker 1: thing if you watch Seattle play the threat, the Saints
Speaker 1: rush three because they're worried about Russell Wilson running. That
Speaker 1: that's what that's that's why you see teams play the
Speaker 1: Seahawks differently. They talk about build them a well, make
Speaker 1: him throw from the pocket, don't give him any lanes,
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, you know, don't commit pressure because
Speaker 1: then what he'll do is he'll spin out. I think
Speaker 1: with Dak, with Dak's ability now to throw from the pocket,
Speaker 1: I think teams are more worried about and throwing the
Speaker 1: foot ball than they are running the foot But he's
Speaker 1: still got that. But he's still got the especial especially
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. He got the eight yard
Speaker 1: touchdown yesterday. The RPO stuff, they're really dangerous down there.
Speaker 1: Him doing that third and short, that's where teams have
Speaker 1: to be scared now. Two ran two options yesterday for
Speaker 1: first down. I love it. I mean, that's stuff that
Speaker 1: you have to that's the college element of the game
Speaker 1: that you have to prepare for when you play the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I get the Russell Wilson comparison more than anything, just
Speaker 1: as a guy that early in his career. Maybe other things,
Speaker 1: you know, they leaned that I'm getting at. They leaned
Speaker 1: on other parts of the offense, and then now it's
Speaker 1: become Russell's offense. And maybe it's it's training that way
Speaker 1: with Dak, or at least you know, Zeke's still the
Speaker 1: engine for this thing, but Dak has taken more and
Speaker 1: more ownership there and in the passing game, he reminds
Speaker 1: me more of like a McNabb or or a even
Speaker 1: a a Roethlisberger wasn't hasn't been a scrambler, but just
Speaker 1: a big quarterback that is hard to bring down hard
Speaker 1: and he can move right. Well. What who was it
Speaker 1: that Kitnah compared him too? Yeah, Warren Moon in the ball.
Speaker 1: I remember guys like Dante Colepepper that could throw the ball,
Speaker 1: you know that, Steve McNair same time. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't mean to tag black quarterbacks with
Speaker 1: you know, I mean again, I'm just talking about big
Speaker 1: body guys that stand the park but still have mobility
Speaker 1: that when you hit them, they could still they survived
Speaker 1: the hit, They get up, they go to the next play.
Speaker 1: You know. With Dak the way he's he's throwing the
Speaker 1: ball so much better than he ever has. And that's
Speaker 1: where I mean, And that's the comparison with r with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I want to look at Yea his hand
Speaker 1: career when this is happening. Yeah, and there could be
Speaker 1: a lot of factors that go into that. Brian and Maryland,
Speaker 1: you're next up on Talking Cowboys. Hello, Brian, heywre we
Speaker 1: doing gentlemen, very good. I was watching the game last
Speaker 1: night while I was rewatching it, and I've noticed, uh,
Speaker 1: the one thing that we really haven't made a lot
Speaker 1: of mention of. Sure, Dak's making all these good passes
Speaker 1: in our run games great, but I see the only
Speaker 1: difference this year is Travis Frederick. He's really just brought
Speaker 1: this whole group together where he's they're opening these giant
Speaker 1: holes and Dak has forever to pass the ball, and
Speaker 1: I see the offense is really running well even so
Speaker 1: that they're not getting into goal line situations. And one
Speaker 1: question I had was do you think Kellen Moore would
Speaker 1: utilize if we were in you know, first or second
Speaker 1: and goal from inside the five? Do you think we're
Speaker 1: going to see a jumbo packet where you bring in
Speaker 1: Joe Looney and Xavier sue a Philo and just have
Speaker 1: seven big meaty guys with Amar and Gallup or whoever
Speaker 1: on the outside and Zeke in the backfield. Do you
Speaker 1: see that as an option? Because he's Kellen Moore seems
Speaker 1: to have not discounted anything as far as using his
Speaker 1: personnel for success. Yeah, I like where you were going
Speaker 1: with the I think the thing with Travis Frederick, we've
Speaker 1: talked about Travis Frederick cutting the defense in half, especially
Speaker 1: second level block the communication. I think the biggest thing
Speaker 1: about this offensive line is, for the most part, you
Speaker 1: have a healthy number seventy seven, you have a number
Speaker 1: a healthy seventy two. You have a healthy seventy to
Speaker 1: the most part these guys, and you've got an improving
Speaker 1: number seventy one at right tackle. Fifty fifty two is
Speaker 1: a bigger body, but he still has issues, you know.
Speaker 1: But so as long as you have four guys that
Speaker 1: can make up for fifty two, this offensive line is
Speaker 1: going to have some success. And Colombo's influence too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: making that change at mid season, they got back to
Speaker 1: doing what they do and their approach and some of
Speaker 1: their concepts technique wise too. Yeah, you know, and look
Speaker 1: around the league at other offensive lines. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just watched last night, well for four quarters against Auburn. Well,
Speaker 1: it made me miss the Cowboys offense. That's that's what
Speaker 1: a draft will do for you if you figure out, okay,
Speaker 1: we target this guy, target this guy. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: they got lucky. I'm gonna say they got lucky with
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick because there's a lot of people that didn't
Speaker 1: have Travis Frederick raided. As highly as he was, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of people that thought he was the
Speaker 1: third round type player, and they took him. Bill Callahan
Speaker 1: for noticing that. Kahan's the one the evaluation I know,
Speaker 1: I know Walter Juliffe was involved toom Siskowski, those guys
Speaker 1: involved with the offensive line evaluations. If yeah, you want
Speaker 1: to give Bill Callahan credit, absolutely, But they but they
Speaker 1: they did a great job of evaluating offensive lineman, the
Speaker 1: right offensive lineman. Sometimes you gotta be lucky too. They
Speaker 1: were gonna take you know, if you look, Ryan Shazier
Speaker 1: was going to be their pick. And Ryan Jazier goes
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh right ahead of them. They don't panic. They
Speaker 1: go Zack Martin, next pick. Bull, Let's go to Johnny
Speaker 1: Manzell was gonna be the pick. You understand what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's I'm saying. You evaluate, you have a plan
Speaker 1: how you want to do so. And they made the
Speaker 1: commitment to doing that, and they and they've paid these
Speaker 1: guys and they've and they've got them all under contract
Speaker 1: for a long time. The only thing that could derail
Speaker 1: this offensive line is lack of health. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing you know, but on the point on Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: and Zach Martin for that matter, because you take an
Speaker 1: offensive guard with the four teenth pick or whatever it
Speaker 1: was that they had that they took take a five
Speaker 1: nine quarterback first overall, and and do you take Frederick, Well,
Speaker 1: no one had a first round grade on Frederick. They
Speaker 1: had second round grade a lot higher than everyone else, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they had conviction, absolutely this guy is going to
Speaker 1: be what he became, which is a perennial Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: player question. And they made the pick. And that's where
Speaker 1: I don't criticize the Giants for making the pick of
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones with the sixth pick in the draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they truly believe that Daniel Jones was their core franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback for the future. It doesn't matter whether you took
Speaker 1: him at number six or seventy or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: They're looking good now by taking Barkley one year and
Speaker 1: taking Jones to the next. Let's see if Jones continues
Speaker 1: to develop and they and where they took Frederick they
Speaker 1: traded down was the second round pick, right they was
Speaker 1: thirty was it was? It fits right into the where
Speaker 1: their second round grades are anyway. Yeah, so that, yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that big leap. And then you take
Speaker 1: Martin where you took him, yep so and everybody had
Speaker 1: him graded is perhaps the best offensive lineman in that draft.
Speaker 1: And then you got lucky with Lelee Collins just because
Speaker 1: of his circumstances. All Right, that does it for talking
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