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Speaker 1: And now it's time for our daily Bloomberg labbrare for

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Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news. And Today Bloomberg lawho

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Speaker 1: Student Grosso and Greg Stuart discuss a victory for President

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Speaker 1: Trump's Voter Fraud Commission after a federal judge cleared the

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Speaker 1: way for the panel to gather personal data on voters.

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Speaker 1: They speak with David Becker, founder and executive director of

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Speaker 1: the Center for Election Innovation and Research, and Hans von Spakovsky,

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Speaker 1: manager of the Election Law Reform Initiative at the Heritage

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Speaker 1: Foundation and a member of President Trump's Advisory Commission on

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Speaker 1: Election Integrity. David, how did the judge reach her decision,

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Speaker 1: particularly regarding the infringement of privacy rights? Well, I think, UM,

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Speaker 1: some of the statements made by UM by the commission

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Speaker 1: UH confirmed that this is just a request that UH

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Speaker 1: there were some options that UM I think they might

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Speaker 1: have been storing the information in a way that at

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Speaker 1: least the judge seemed satisfied UH might be might sufficiently

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Speaker 1: protect privacy rights. I think there's still some questions out

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Speaker 1: there with regard to that. I think that given that

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Speaker 1: it was just a request, given that some of this

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Speaker 1: information was public, what she found at this point was

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Speaker 1: there wasn't enough evidence to grant a temporary restraining extraining

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Speaker 1: order or a preliminary injunction, and found that at least

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Speaker 1: at this point the plaintiffs were not likely to um

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Speaker 1: to win on the merits. I think, you know. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that was was was heavily stressed in

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Speaker 1: her opinion though, was that this is only a request,

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Speaker 1: that there is not a demand for information. And then

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Speaker 1: there's another question which will have to answer um at

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Speaker 1: some point, which is is this information going to be

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Speaker 1: any of any use at all to determine anything related

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Speaker 1: to election integrity? And so let me just ask you

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Speaker 1: to start with the practical implications. What what does this opinion,

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Speaker 1: this decision from Judge Clarke Telly give the Commission that

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Speaker 1: it might not not have had beforehand. Well, it was

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Speaker 1: an obviously obviously logical decision because if you look at

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Speaker 1: the letter that was sent out by the Commission, uh,

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Speaker 1: they asked for publicly available information. So the idea that

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Speaker 1: somehow there was going to be some huge invasion of

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Speaker 1: privacy is just not true. All of the states provide

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Speaker 1: this very same information. For example, I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: go to the website of the State Election Board of Virginia,

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Speaker 1: and remember Terry mccaullus, the governor, was one of the

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Speaker 1: people that was outraged at this. You'll find that they

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Speaker 1: have a couple of pages where they talk about how

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Speaker 1: uh they provide information registered voters, list um voting history,

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Speaker 1: to political parties, candidates, uh, nonprofit organizations, members of the public.

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Speaker 1: So all the commission was asking for was the same

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Speaker 1: kind of publicly available information that these states already provide

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Speaker 1: basically to anyone who walks in the door. That's David Becker,

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Speaker 1: founder of the Center for Election Innovation and Research, and

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Speaker 1: Hans von spakov Ski, manager of the Election Law Reform

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Speaker 1: Initiative at the Heritage Foundation and a member of President

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Speaker 1: Trump's Advisory Commission on Election Integrity. Is spoke with Bloomberg

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