Speaker 1: Let me. It won't let me, says I asked the host.
Speaker 1: I record, Oh word, no problem, It'll just come to me. Then,
Speaker 1: y'all got you all right now we straight all right,
Speaker 1: d J head, what's up me? Man? What's up with it? Bro?
Speaker 1: Bro na do Look so everybody, first of all, welcome
Speaker 1: to her politics will prop Uh you already know how
Speaker 1: we do. We're gonna take some do someth a little
Speaker 1: different today rather than just like go through the headlines
Speaker 1: here uh on an interview one of the hummies, who man,
Speaker 1: this this brother's expansion. I don't want to say shift
Speaker 1: because that's not what it is. It's an expansion of
Speaker 1: his world and what he's doing. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: so dope to watch. Uh. First of all, ladies, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: it's don't boy DJ head say what's something? Man? Hey man, welcome,
Speaker 1: welcome to the ship show. I appreciate everybody for rocket
Speaker 1: with me, um, you know, staying supportive through my what
Speaker 1: you say, evolution or your expansion, my expansion. Yeah, speaking away,
Speaker 1: shout out to the fire Factory studios. Yeah, man, look
Speaker 1: at this this food. Look okay, see that's that I'll see.
Speaker 1: This is one reason why. I was like, now, you
Speaker 1: ain't gotta come over here, because you know I would.
Speaker 1: I would have pulled it up on you. I know
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. I know you would have. Man, Like Man,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like that, the the the aesthetic standard that I know
Speaker 1: you would already have would already be there. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't won't need to create nothing, he's gonna already have. Now,
Speaker 1: I would have pulled it up on you. Bro, you
Speaker 1: know what it is that's got some good video tacos.
Speaker 1: I know you're good on this side too. I love tacos.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You can't not. I'll be meeting
Speaker 1: people and they don't look they don't with tacos, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Bro, I don't know if I could trust
Speaker 1: you like that. Just don't understand. Yeah, I'm like, how
Speaker 1: do you live anywhere but specifically here? It literally doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Bro. I like, honestly, I
Speaker 1: feel like between a taco and a burrito, I'm like,
Speaker 1: these are the two. I feel like it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big statement, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it is the perfection of I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: it's perfect food because it's like it's all your food
Speaker 1: groups and you can eat the plate it's on, bro,
Speaker 1: because it's wrapped. You can eat it like you could
Speaker 1: eat it's wrapped in a burrito. It's wrapped already. Bro.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, I'm trying to tell you, like the
Speaker 1: thing is when you look at Okay, for instance, us
Speaker 1: here in US here in l A. Right. First of all,
Speaker 1: let's be clear, this is Mexico. Facts. White people pulled
Speaker 1: up and stole this ship from Mexico to Mexico. Just
Speaker 1: de's what they did to the world. But this is Mexico.
Speaker 1: It's a Los Angeles right now, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how to rolle my tongue, so whatever you're there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this being Mexico, like, I'm fully indulging in the culture. Bro.
Speaker 1: I want all of it, all of it. I want
Speaker 1: all of it. Bro. See you see I hope you
Speaker 1: all already here. Why this nigga is on my show
Speaker 1: right now because he's already too wed he got to
Speaker 1: it yet. So look, so if you guys aren't familiar,
Speaker 1: uh DJ had, one of the co founders of Homegrown Radio, uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll get into a little bit more
Speaker 1: of that later, but just ultimately like just the they
Speaker 1: have in the most sort of diligent and kind of humble,
Speaker 1: like hungry but not thirsty. We talked about that often
Speaker 1: on the show to like the difference between the two
Speaker 1: way have solidified themselves as being kingmakers, like like taste makers,
Speaker 1: like in a way that's not imperialistic, if you will,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like these are real dudes, real folks
Speaker 1: that love the music, that are authentically friends and believe
Speaker 1: in what's going on here and have in ways that
Speaker 1: a lot of people haven't. Y'all's co sign is not
Speaker 1: as transactional as others. Like sometimes it's just a trans
Speaker 1: this is just it is what it is. You gotta
Speaker 1: do the you gotta do the rounds. You're drive an album.
Speaker 1: You gotta do the rounds. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like this is different. It's like it's like, no,
Speaker 1: you want them to like you know, I'm saying both times,
Speaker 1: I'll give you at all, but it's like I want
Speaker 1: you all that tell me why it's it's what We're
Speaker 1: gonna get into the red for the rest of the show.
Speaker 1: It's the authenticity of it all. Like everybody, Okay, so
Speaker 1: background for listeners who are not in the industry. Me
Speaker 1: as a as a podcaster and an artist, I get
Speaker 1: both of these emails. You get these for me. I
Speaker 1: get these like book decks. So a publisher will send
Speaker 1: me this cold email with their list of authors and
Speaker 1: um new books coming out, and it's in the whole
Speaker 1: for me to interview those people. And I've never I've
Speaker 1: never said yes to any of them because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know y'all like y'all say, and I have
Speaker 1: no emotional tie or connection, and because I want my
Speaker 1: yes to matter. If I just say yes to everything
Speaker 1: y'all send me, then my yes don't matter. It's transactional.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna know, you know what I'm saying, you know.
Speaker 1: And as a musician, it's like I get cold emails
Speaker 1: for features, you know, and they're like, well, you know, um,
Speaker 1: we'll pay you this much. You know, how much do
Speaker 1: you charge? YadA YadA, And like I could say beyond,
Speaker 1: I could say in a certainty, for the thirteen years
Speaker 1: i've been a professional artist, I've never charged for a
Speaker 1: feature because because you can't pay me enough to be
Speaker 1: on an album. I don't like to do a song
Speaker 1: with somebody I don't respect. There's no there's no dollar
Speaker 1: out for that. But then there's also no dollar amount
Speaker 1: that my homies could pay me. Like now I believe
Speaker 1: in you, like I want you to win. You know.
Speaker 1: Of course I got my our PaperWorks right and everything
Speaker 1: on the back end, so I'm getting my point to
Speaker 1: my royalties and stuff like that. But but that's because
Speaker 1: that's how that's just how the business works. But like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like, yo, five bands, I'll come
Speaker 1: do this song? Are you kidding me? Like that's if
Speaker 1: my dog, Like why would I do that to him?
Speaker 1: Like spend that money, Go get that, Go get that
Speaker 1: Anderson feature. You know what I'm saying, Go get that,
Speaker 1: Go get that big name. Yeah yeah, yeah, you'pend it
Speaker 1: on that, like not not on me. Fam Like go
Speaker 1: promote your record, it's cool. So I feel like with
Speaker 1: with Homegrown, it's like this is an outlet. You can't
Speaker 1: buy their support. I can't have my publicists send y'all
Speaker 1: a email and be like, Yo, this this is this
Speaker 1: is the campaign. That's what we do. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: happen like it's like y'all have to believe in it.
Speaker 1: So when you set up something like that, it's like
Speaker 1: then that value shoots up. At least that's my opinion. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, um, I agree with you first of all.
Speaker 1: Second of all, thank you. Um. Third, I don't believe
Speaker 1: in that ship, bro. I think that's how the culture
Speaker 1: got ruined, like where it became, where it became monetized
Speaker 1: and transactional and stuff like that. And I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something I never told him nobody before.
Speaker 1: I've never said this before publicly ever. So Um, something
Speaker 1: happened where like I got an opportunity, big opportunity to
Speaker 1: do something right, and there was somebody who I forged
Speaker 1: the relationship with it. It was it was both personal
Speaker 1: and professional relationship. And I remember when she put me
Speaker 1: in position to do this amazing thing that I was
Speaker 1: able to do and they paid me handsomely to do
Speaker 1: it right. When when it came down to it, she
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know I want a percentage of
Speaker 1: what they're giving you. Wow, the thing that you know
Speaker 1: I'll put you on, Like I feel like it's only right,
Speaker 1: Like it's you know, a guy for me and it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a lookout for me, like because like hey,
Speaker 1: like I really need it right now. It was more like, like, bro,
Speaker 1: you owe me this because yeah, like I told and
Speaker 1: I told her the truth. I said, well, well, actually,
Speaker 1: you know, Salace end up telling her for those who
Speaker 1: are no Salace my manager, my business partner. We've been
Speaker 1: together almost fifteen years, no paperwork, yeah, and Salace, And
Speaker 1: I'm telling her will like, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know or not, but that's not really how head it is,
Speaker 1: Like it's not a transactional person like that. So what
Speaker 1: you're doing is you're monetizing the relationship. And that's OK,
Speaker 1: it's fine. But now I know if we have a
Speaker 1: monetized the relationship, that's cool. Then the then the then
Speaker 1: the entire relationship is transactional. What's in it for me
Speaker 1: at this point? Right? So, um, what I had to explain.
Speaker 1: She was very very upset at and I told her
Speaker 1: the truth. You know me, I'm a straight shooter. I
Speaker 1: told her, say, look, at this point, I want to
Speaker 1: discontinue the friendship moving forward, like we just it's transactional
Speaker 1: at this point. And she really had a problem with it,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, bro, you monetize the relationship
Speaker 1: by telling me that I owe you these funds because
Speaker 1: of something you did for me to look out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're right, dude, because like at that point,
Speaker 1: I would be like, Okay, well, this is the last
Speaker 1: check you're getting for me because and I gave her.
Speaker 1: I gave her, I gave her the dollar amount she
Speaker 1: asked for, and I moved and she's no longer and yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never mentioned and and and it would have been
Speaker 1: this is this is exactly why I had you on here,
Speaker 1: because had she been a real one, it would be
Speaker 1: like I would continue to mention this person's name in
Speaker 1: all these rooms. I've been a you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because now because she looked out, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: without without yes exactly, that was the pla. I was
Speaker 1: with a big I was with a big organization at
Speaker 1: the time. They're big, the biggest companies in the world
Speaker 1: that does they do. And I was going to put
Speaker 1: her in the room like, hey, she does these things
Speaker 1: and I need to hire her. But at that point
Speaker 1: it went out the window because it's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: monetize the relationship. So now it's transactional. I've done with that,
Speaker 1: but that's not what I thought we were doing exactly
Speaker 1: as dude, see, yes, bro, all this wisdom you drop in. Okay, now, okay,
Speaker 1: you already you've already you're already proof of concept. So
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do with this show, why had
Speaker 1: was what you're hearing right now is because I feel
Speaker 1: like I dm them to tell him, like he what
Speaker 1: where he's at right now? Is this is what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to build in our culture is people who are
Speaker 1: authentically who they are. Because you ask anybody, whether it's
Speaker 1: music or streets or anything, like the head is certified
Speaker 1: like he's authentically who he is um and understands business, politics, economics,
Speaker 1: all these other things. He's both. And the point of
Speaker 1: this show from day one was to show people like us,
Speaker 1: where are melanin and a little bit less whatever it
Speaker 1: is people who come from the equator, people that watch
Speaker 1: their legs, people that season their food, to show us
Speaker 1: that these people are not smarter than you. It's just
Speaker 1: a different it's just a different vocabulary. You actually know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, And I'm gonna show you that
Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I want you to step into that power like
Speaker 1: we we did it. We did an episode on lobbying
Speaker 1: and canvassing. When it when it comes to like when
Speaker 1: you're campaigning you're to to run for office. And there's
Speaker 1: a term called astroke turfing, which is essentially when you're
Speaker 1: throwing a rally like foods be I mean it's a
Speaker 1: Craigslist ad like come, we'll pay you a hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: come cheer us on, make these signs and show up
Speaker 1: at at this event, right to show that we have
Speaker 1: support from the community. Right, that's astro turfing because you
Speaker 1: pay them to be there. Right. Uh, real political power is.
Speaker 1: And this is why I want of the hommies to understand.
Speaker 1: If you shot a text right now that was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the dilmma mall, We're gonna do a
Speaker 1: little a little pop up. I mean it's at least
Speaker 1: a hundred people coming at least you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's real power. You know what I'm saying, Because you
Speaker 1: on a text can bring people to a place. These
Speaker 1: politicians pay for that, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: and I and I bet you anybody who's like really
Speaker 1: from here and really out here could could do it.
Speaker 1: You could get fifty people to a block party. That's
Speaker 1: real power. I think that's I think that's important though,
Speaker 1: mobilizing your people, and it's important to leadership. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm a leader because I leave by example, and
Speaker 1: I think that that's something that well, I tried to.
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, but I try to lead by example
Speaker 1: and through um the actions and the and the things
Speaker 1: that I do and say, I try to stand on it.
Speaker 1: Not not because like, oh I feel like I'm that
Speaker 1: nigga and you gotta come to me, get your records
Speaker 1: and funk all that, but I think that mobilizing is
Speaker 1: an art that's a skill in itself because you know,
Speaker 1: it's certainly like the way you gauge it, and it's
Speaker 1: you'll relate to this because it goes back to the music, right.
Speaker 1: I remember my big honey Pool telling me. He was like,
Speaker 1: if you do a show and you know everybody at
Speaker 1: your show, you don't got no fans m hm. And
Speaker 1: I was like, and I thought about that. I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about that ship for the fifteen years. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that makes because what happens is you think you're mobilizing people. Oh,
Speaker 1: my name is, my name is probably probably I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do a show and you know everybody there. Did you
Speaker 1: really mobilize people or did you just invite everybody to
Speaker 1: your function? So it's like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's a difference to it. So I think that the
Speaker 1: way to gauge it is quote unquote hard ticket sales.
Speaker 1: What the baby, the baby is doing right now, right
Speaker 1: where they're coming. The baby aligned for by one, get
Speaker 1: one free, um um for his ticket sales. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's like these same morons are complaining
Speaker 1: about high price ticket sales like that. It's like you
Speaker 1: gotta pick and choose. A struggle, my nigga, either you
Speaker 1: want either you want a deal, like people are literally
Speaker 1: complaining about a deal. Yeah, think about that. Imagine Cadillac
Speaker 1: was like, you know, we're doing by one and get
Speaker 1: one free. Nobody would be like kind of like fell
Speaker 1: off niggas to be getting them cattle. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: and if and if the Cadillacs is like two, you
Speaker 1: would be like, let's people lined up down the block.
Speaker 1: If they if gallons of gas was free, come right now,
Speaker 1: would you be making fun of Arco like know what
Speaker 1: it what you should be seeing the mentality of that,
Speaker 1: And it's just a whole bunch of nigga ship going on,
Speaker 1: not be like bro. So anyway, to some of my point,
Speaker 1: there's an art in mobilizing people. The reason why you
Speaker 1: buy Jordan's is because Jordan's have been marketed to you
Speaker 1: to the point of relevance. And now at this point
Speaker 1: it's become a cultural thing and now that's how you infuse.
Speaker 1: But at some point Jordan's was just a prototype that
Speaker 1: was one Jordan's and Mike Mike and white people are Nike,
Speaker 1: and they were like, this is the thing, okay, and
Speaker 1: now we have to figure out how to mobilize people
Speaker 1: do and consume the thing. And it's like, that's how art, bro,
Speaker 1: That's a whole skill in that you go to school,
Speaker 1: but eight years to learn how to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you learned in high school, which I'm finding like,
Speaker 1: go into already know you learned the high school. So look,
Speaker 1: uh so let's let's look. I got a few questions
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, but you've already like again,
Speaker 1: hit a lot of the gems. I was gonna try
Speaker 1: to come to you anyway. Uh So, first of all,
Speaker 1: shout out also shout out Salads. You know, we went
Speaker 1: to high school together. I didn't know that. I didn't
Speaker 1: because I never put it together because Salads is his
Speaker 1: last name. We knew him as money, and y'all called him.
Speaker 1: He's a few years older than me too, but like
Speaker 1: y'all called him salas money. I called him money, Salas
Speaker 1: the money that is lame but good for you. But
Speaker 1: that's what I asked when he was it was he was,
Speaker 1: that was his nickname. That's what I say. He was
Speaker 1: introduced to me. He was an upperclassman and they all
Speaker 1: called him money and and I mean, in his defense,
Speaker 1: the boy could shoot. He had a great jumper, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is now. I haven't seen him since high school, so like,
Speaker 1: I don't know the jumper like now, but the boy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because Chuck text me and he was like yo,
Speaker 1: because we were trying to get y'all out for real
Speaker 1: ones and Chuck's text me and he was like, man, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you should talk to Brian put out the yearbook. I
Speaker 1: was like, what he was like yeah, that was high
Speaker 1: school together and then it all came together and I
Speaker 1: was like, man and so like, I mean so many
Speaker 1: stories like that. I know he could certify for us.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I was like, I was a backpacker,
Speaker 1: freestyle lass nick. You know I'm saying, just in the
Speaker 1: back of the bus, bench warming on the basketball team.
Speaker 1: But the nigger kar rap, That's that's who I was.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I feel like from what I've been able
Speaker 1: to gather from what you've put out publicly as far
Speaker 1: as like your origin story, where you're from, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh how you got exposed to other things, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's really similar to mine because in
Speaker 1: the sense that I may have went to high school
Speaker 1: way out there with Salas, but I didn't live out there.
Speaker 1: I got I got busted, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like my my parents split. I was born in South Central,
Speaker 1: but I grew up on my point there West Kovenia
Speaker 1: with the Vatos, Like that's where I grew up. So
Speaker 1: when when my mom went and got this house in
Speaker 1: the i E, I was like, I'm not living out there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So um, but I went
Speaker 1: to school out there it's a better school. So but
Speaker 1: that really for me, I like I can't be more
Speaker 1: thankful for that experience. You know, you just see so
Speaker 1: even even between South Central and and like went there
Speaker 1: in West Covenia because like it was a different world
Speaker 1: and you just wont you It's almost like you become trilingual,
Speaker 1: if you will, Like you know, we're from the east Side,
Speaker 1: like this is sixty seven to sant Pedro, like we're
Speaker 1: from there, and then learning to speak vato, and then
Speaker 1: learning to speak suburbs, you know, and just learning all
Speaker 1: those things. I feel like it it made me a weirdo,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean to the armies, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 1: And I feel like you got some of that, So
Speaker 1: like what is that? Where did that come from? How
Speaker 1: did how did you become such a hybrid um? Because
Speaker 1: I was raised by Mexican people, bro, Like I'm from
Speaker 1: I'm from the East Side, right, So my mom's family
Speaker 1: is from Compton, my dad family from Livingwood. I spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time in Lynnwood growing up. I'm a
Speaker 1: house and my dad, my dad's side of the family
Speaker 1: is from Lintwood too. And they all lived in Lynnwood,
Speaker 1: so I spent a lot of time on the East Side.
Speaker 1: It's for I was like, I'm like, I'm a Womington baby,
Speaker 1: Like if you look at it, like wuh. So for me,
Speaker 1: black and brown has always been my thing. It's a
Speaker 1: lady named you know, Julie and her family pretty much
Speaker 1: watched me while my mom, you know, go to work
Speaker 1: and ship like that. And they was teaching me Spanish
Speaker 1: when I was two or three years old, and so
Speaker 1: I learned, you know, let is one of the first
Speaker 1: words I learned. Um. And having that cultural nuance um
Speaker 1: being from I think it's I think it's unanimous. The
Speaker 1: black and brown experience just in l A in general
Speaker 1: is a mixed pot of you. But for me specifically,
Speaker 1: all my best friends were Mexican. I didn't even have
Speaker 1: black best friends. So I got to high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a true story. Like even like I didn't even
Speaker 1: know what it was like to have a lot of
Speaker 1: lack friend until I got to middle school, high school,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I thought everybody was Mexican. So
Speaker 1: even when it came into like the N word like that, right,
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was weird. For Mexican people to
Speaker 1: use it until I got to become a grown ass
Speaker 1: man because I didn't it was normal to me. All
Speaker 1: my friends said it like, so I didn't even know
Speaker 1: that it was a difference. And so that's something that
Speaker 1: I think is unique my life specifically versus a lot
Speaker 1: of black voices or whatever they want to call me
Speaker 1: in the culture, because they be on me like, oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't check, you don't, you don't you didn't check soon,
Speaker 1: So for saying any word, I'm like, bro, that wasn't
Speaker 1: that was normal to me. I didn't know the difference.
Speaker 1: So like for me specifically, right for me specifically when
Speaker 1: it comes to I just say Latin culture, I'm fully
Speaker 1: immersed in it, Like I love Latin specifically, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't know what a fucking Dominican was until I saw
Speaker 1: Sami So so nigger, I didn't, I being honest with you, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was. I'm like, why is he?
Speaker 1: They was like, no, he's he's lacking. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: he's not. He's black, That's what I'm saying. And they're like,
Speaker 1: I had to learn these things because that wasn't something
Speaker 1: that we were taught and you know, full transparency. The
Speaker 1: reason why I grew up so bad, um poor and
Speaker 1: ship is because my mom, my mom, like my grandmother
Speaker 1: rest in peace, loved her death like you know, she
Speaker 1: just passed last year. This year. Um, my mom left
Speaker 1: home with me because my grandmother had some biggotry going on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like she really working with
Speaker 1: that black and brown ship my grandma from my grandma
Speaker 1: from the South bro. So she was you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So she didn't Mexican people like that. And
Speaker 1: my mom left the house with me because she was like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna teach my son the way you was taught,
Speaker 1: like you. So we had to struck a lot because
Speaker 1: my mom left home. And so I attribute a lot
Speaker 1: of my who I am and and and and the
Speaker 1: DNA of what I am too one my mother and
Speaker 1: and another part is heavily influenced by Mexican people. I
Speaker 1: grew up with Mexicans. I love Mexicans, like Mexican food
Speaker 1: more like soul fool. If I'm being honest with you, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And I know like
Speaker 1: and you was telling that like explains like why you
Speaker 1: funk with me so much because I was raised in
Speaker 1: the Mexican hood, raised by Mexican men, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it was for me. I had a Julie.
Speaker 1: She was Julie Zarragoza. That was literally her name, and
Speaker 1: it was their family yo yo, yeah, Julie. It was Julie.
Speaker 1: And there were two families. It was the Brumins and Zaragosas,
Speaker 1: and those were the two families, uh that you know
Speaker 1: raised me. I was telling the story to like Saturday mornings,
Speaker 1: eight am, getting knock on the door from Alex. Right, Alex.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't give his last name because you
Speaker 1: know I go but like you know, threp throws like
Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying, like came out of prison.
Speaker 1: You know. It was my Sunday school teacher. No less,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like you know, he
Speaker 1: was like very certified. You know, he would just he woke.
Speaker 1: He would wake us up Saturday morning, knock on the door,
Speaker 1: like tell my mom, hey, hey is Jason ready. He's
Speaker 1: got to come late concrete with us. So my work ethic,
Speaker 1: people ask me all the time by like my work
Speaker 1: ethic and my pace and I'm like I was raised
Speaker 1: by toughest nails. Mexican men. Men just you just work,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, that's their answer. Men work? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? You work? You know, all these all
Speaker 1: these things stuff that it made it into songs like
Speaker 1: leave a place better than you found it, like all
Speaker 1: this ship that came from these Mexican men, like men work.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You can't take care of
Speaker 1: your family, You're not worth nothing, like just autists. These
Speaker 1: gems that gave me why I live, Why I'm so
Speaker 1: comfortable and boiled heights like I lived like I'm fine,
Speaker 1: you know, saying it's because like, man, I've been around y'all.
Speaker 1: You know you also, I remember when I first went
Speaker 1: to go meet my wife's family and Acapulco, Uh you
Speaker 1: know that southern Mexico, right, So her grandfather's sister. We
Speaker 1: go up the street, grandfather's sister. I'm around the corner
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at her and I was like, Babe,
Speaker 1: who is that And she's like, oh, it's Mikes, like
Speaker 1: my grandfather's sister. And I was like, that's a black woman.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. That's a black woman.
Speaker 1: Joe said, and she was like, oh yeah, she's like,
Speaker 1: come to think of it. Then she starts showing me
Speaker 1: pictures of her grandfather and I was like, he's black,
Speaker 1: your grand I don't care what you say, y'all Afro Mexican,
Speaker 1: like he's black. And what I love about like you
Speaker 1: you you what you're hitting on is on the episode
Speaker 1: actually that came out today on My Feet is Black Love,
Speaker 1: Brown Pride, you know. So it was about the Luis
Speaker 1: Martinez and stuff like that. Like but just when you
Speaker 1: think about l a culture at least with with when
Speaker 1: it comes to like black and brown and like Mexican stuff,
Speaker 1: it's like at some point our cultural exchange becomes so intertwined.
Speaker 1: Like I don't like who bore the quartets first? I
Speaker 1: don't know which one of us had dickies first. I
Speaker 1: don't know the penalty. I don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we just you know, like y'all low
Speaker 1: writer music them like that's all the old these is
Speaker 1: just black soul, Like y'all listen to the black soul
Speaker 1: and your cars, you our cars, like that's one that
Speaker 1: lowered your car? Wanted me gel what I'm saying like
Speaker 1: wanted me, Gail put your system in you right, So
Speaker 1: I'm like you just I don't know who did it first.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like the flannels, it don't
Speaker 1: at this point, it don't matter, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It don't matter. We are one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So like so I've always been about that too, and
Speaker 1: I think that that's what makes us so, you know,
Speaker 1: uniquely able to speak about broader issues because like you've
Speaker 1: experienced something else, you know. I agree? Yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: love it dig so so similar. Man, So did you
Speaker 1: go to school in Wilmington's or would you? My mom
Speaker 1: with my home school was Banning. I'm from card Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm from Carson. So my mom, uh my mom wouldn't
Speaker 1: let me go to Banning. She couldn't. When she was
Speaker 1: going up there to get my paperwork done and stuff.
Speaker 1: That was literally interested, She's like, yeah, you're not going here,
Speaker 1: Like the cops were literally walking people walking two dudes
Speaker 1: out of the out of the campus in handcuffs. That
Speaker 1: was me and Workman. That was me and Workman. High
Speaker 1: right there at that was me and Workman. Same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So she got my transfer paperwork. I went to go
Speaker 1: our high school in Cerritos. Oh words, so that's where
Speaker 1: that's how you So that's the noise all that world. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: black Filipino, mostly white Asian, A lot of Asians um
Speaker 1: over there in Cerritos. But but I really I really
Speaker 1: appreciate my It was hectic. I ain't gonna lie to you,
Speaker 1: like my upbringing with because we moved a lot, because
Speaker 1: we was poor and ship like that. My mom didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of help, so we had um. I
Speaker 1: went to five elementary schools. Yeah, and so like, it
Speaker 1: just was hectic. But I really appreciated because it gave
Speaker 1: me a broad spectrum of life. Also later on in life,
Speaker 1: it made me understand the value of education. When we
Speaker 1: was in the hood, when I was going to school
Speaker 1: and then Wood, I was in the fourth grade, I
Speaker 1: was honor role principles, honor row three point five g
Speaker 1: p A. I'm killing ship right when we moved. We
Speaker 1: moved to Lakewood, and I'll start going to the white schools,
Speaker 1: seeing the seeing the average, and that's what led me.
Speaker 1: So like as I as I got old, I'm like
Speaker 1: with our education in the hood, some bullshit, because I'm
Speaker 1: going up over there. I'm I'm I'm I'm in the
Speaker 1: Gate Program, Honored Student Honors. Every every every month, I'm honors.
Speaker 1: And I go to the white school and I'm struggling.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling yes. So it's just certain things like that
Speaker 1: that taught me nuance. And I'm really grateful for having
Speaker 1: that nuance because I'm able to speak to both sides
Speaker 1: of the spectrum. When I go to the s and
Speaker 1: I talked to these kids, that's so dope, bro, Like man,
Speaker 1: it's it's just blowing my mind because like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: went to three elementary schools and it was like and
Speaker 1: but my mom's attitude was like and she's even said it,
Speaker 1: she said it many times. She was like whatever and
Speaker 1: white kids get, my baby gonna get. She's like, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't care what we're doing. I don't care
Speaker 1: how hard it is. And so for us, like our
Speaker 1: homes was they where she showed me in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways the value of like it's not that we
Speaker 1: don't have money, it's what we're spending our money on.
Speaker 1: And so for her, she was like I will break
Speaker 1: bread for this, like will not have you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'll drive you across town. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, I'll find you this good school.
Speaker 1: You feel me so like and and yeah, like I
Speaker 1: went from same but it was the other way around.
Speaker 1: So I started off because when I was really young,
Speaker 1: my parents were still together so we had considerably more income.
Speaker 1: When they split, I had to go to the public school.
Speaker 1: So for me was when I noticed it was. I
Speaker 1: remember specifically it was the transition from third to fourth grade.
Speaker 1: When I went to fourth grade in my neighborhood, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is all the work I did in
Speaker 1: third grade, Like I had already done all of it,
Speaker 1: and then yo, here's the real ship. My teacher, I
Speaker 1: remember moms pulled up. My teacher gave me straight B
Speaker 1: pluses right, and my my mom was like, what is
Speaker 1: I don't understand what is this B plus thing? And
Speaker 1: she was and he was like, well he earned a's,
Speaker 1: but I want him to still have something to work for.
Speaker 1: And my mom was like, okay, time out. Like as
Speaker 1: she lit that, man, I never forget it. I had
Speaker 1: to leave the room because she was like, you are
Speaker 1: not gonna deny my son one of the few black
Speaker 1: boys here. Because now this was all Mexican school, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now I'm the only little
Speaker 1: black boy at this school. So she like, you're not
Speaker 1: going to deny my son. If he earned it, You're
Speaker 1: gonna give it to him, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's a crazy anyway, we could talk for hours.
Speaker 1: All right. So you go off to college. You go
Speaker 1: to the Long Beach, Domingus. Now I go to Cerritos College,
Speaker 1: but the Cerritos Okay, so you got to Cerrito's. I
Speaker 1: know a little bit of this because because of money
Speaker 1: or because of Brian Writo's college, and I signed up
Speaker 1: for the So when I first when I first went
Speaker 1: to Cerritos College, I went there and I was on
Speaker 1: some ship like man, and I really want to do
Speaker 1: you know, radio. And what ended up happening was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know what happened was I got I knew I
Speaker 1: wanted to do radio. When I got to Cerrito's College,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the it's the registration day, so the
Speaker 1: QualiTest pack all everybody here, and um I heard music
Speaker 1: coming from across the campus on the things. So I
Speaker 1: went to I walked up to the speaker. I literally
Speaker 1: walked up to a speaker and I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: speaker like I want to do this. So in the
Speaker 1: in the radio station. It was the building right there,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Yo, how do I get on
Speaker 1: the radio? That's dope, bro at Serrito's radio is dope.
Speaker 1: I just walked in the radios. I was like, how
Speaker 1: do I get on the radio. They was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta go. You gotta talk to Professor Bright. Got
Speaker 1: to Mr brad Man. So there was like, you gotta
Speaker 1: talk to Professor Bright. And I'm like, well, where did Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're like, he out there and at the at the
Speaker 1: radio tent. You gotta go out there. So I went out.
Speaker 1: It's a big, tall, white dude with glasses, big big
Speaker 1: as smile like and they was like, that's him. So
Speaker 1: I walked up to him and he's tall as ship bro.
Speaker 1: So I tapped him on his back because I'm sure back.
Speaker 1: He turned around. He's smiling. He's like, hey, I said this.
Speaker 1: I literally said this to this white man. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm dope. Put me on your radio station. Love it
Speaker 1: real ship. Yeah, he just he just started laughing and
Speaker 1: cracking up. He's like I like you. He's like, take
Speaker 1: my class and I don't think about it. So I
Speaker 1: signed up for radio broadcasting. And then um, I signed
Speaker 1: up for radio broadcasting, took the whole course, learned everything
Speaker 1: about that ship. Um me and Mondo Fresco, you know,
Speaker 1: in the same class, my boy, um T, my boy
Speaker 1: Hollywood T. The next semester, I was on the radio
Speaker 1: and Sarrito's, and then a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: people took the opportunity to like really dive into like
Speaker 1: the minu ships of the radio ships. So they was
Speaker 1: doing they was just doing turned down ship to keep
Speaker 1: it a bluck like they was reading P. S. A.
Speaker 1: S Oh today in the student help center, get your
Speaker 1: flu shots and yeah stuff. I knew I knew a
Speaker 1: lot of the promoters in l A because I was
Speaker 1: I was out, I was at the clubs and everything.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to them, like, yo, give me, give
Speaker 1: me like four tickets to give away on my radio show.
Speaker 1: So because I knew everybody, um, I was getting the
Speaker 1: same gets that big boy had to give away on
Speaker 1: the radio. So wait, so back up, back up, back up.
Speaker 1: How did you know everybody already? I had just been
Speaker 1: I've just been going out, me and my board outside,
Speaker 1: me and my Boyfat Dad. We was hitting it. We
Speaker 1: was at We was in the club five six nights
Speaker 1: a week. Okay, comedy shows, showcases whatever, I'm going to
Speaker 1: the Laugh Factor, shot to my dou Um, Big Teflon
Speaker 1: Ben and Um and and even young He. They used
Speaker 1: to let me come to the laugh Factory, let me
Speaker 1: in for free because I didn't have money like that.
Speaker 1: So it would let me come to the laugh Factory
Speaker 1: and I'll be in there and I'll be Red Grant,
Speaker 1: Derek Ellis, all these comedians. I would see my Mugg
Speaker 1: come on my radio show. I got Red Grant to
Speaker 1: come on my radio show or Cerrio's College College Radio
Speaker 1: Bro two thousand four Bro listen, and that was like
Speaker 1: the hype bro. Like we was making our rounds, you know,
Speaker 1: because y'all because like in Cerrito's radio is dope, because
Speaker 1: y'all have such to connect with with Stax Vinyl, you know,
Speaker 1: and if you did, if you did in stores in there,
Speaker 1: at some point you could get on the radio or Serritos.
Speaker 1: I did a couple in Stories and Stacks, so I doe, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's a good That was a good time. Man. So
Speaker 1: I was just making my rounds and doing that, and
Speaker 1: my ship just kind of blew up and we end up.
Speaker 1: I end up playing some I was playing two thousand
Speaker 1: one Dr Dre because you remember it's two thousand four,
Speaker 1: so like nink a game just came out like it's booming, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, bro, it's up. I'm playing all of
Speaker 1: this ship on the radio. I'm just playing playing it
Speaker 1: and they're like, bro, you can't do that, Like you
Speaker 1: just can't do play what you want to, like you,
Speaker 1: but here's the way. I didn't know. And then again
Speaker 1: this is ignorance and lack of education. Rito's College. It's
Speaker 1: not just internet radio. They also have a signal on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's still governed by the FEEC. Yeah. So if
Speaker 1: you just go and play some ship that ain't they
Speaker 1: cursing and ship Dr Dre. I'm playing all that playing
Speaker 1: its owns. Bro, they're getting in trouble. They I got
Speaker 1: the school find like fifteen bands. I got kicked without
Speaker 1: let's go um And it was just you just didn't know.
Speaker 1: We was crashing the server because I was giving away tickets.
Speaker 1: And that's that their internet serving, their internet radio station
Speaker 1: thing isn't designed to handle that kind of band with
Speaker 1: two thousand four, so like we didn't have that kind
Speaker 1: of band with I'm editing music on cool Edit Pro
Speaker 1: Bro before Adobe bought it, before audition. It was cool
Speaker 1: atit Pro. I edited games three hundred bars in cool
Speaker 1: Edit Pro. I literally did that. I edited myself so
Speaker 1: I could play it on radio. And it took me
Speaker 1: hours hours to edit games because games drop three hundred bars.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Bro, this is amazing. I want to play it.
Speaker 1: I can't play it if it's not clean. I cleaned
Speaker 1: it myself. So like those are the things that I
Speaker 1: was doing in two thousand four, Bro, two tho five,
Speaker 1: two thousand and four toout the five. I'm doing these things,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to the Laugh three every Sunday for
Speaker 1: Chocolate Sunday so I can scout comedians to come on
Speaker 1: my show. I'm going to every showcase you could think of,
Speaker 1: Like it's just up and my show kind of blew up.
Speaker 1: And then one day this dude name Poll hit me
Speaker 1: up and he was like, Bro, I want to get
Speaker 1: my artists on your show. He fun with Black wall
Speaker 1: Street's name is Glasses Malone, and I started working with
Speaker 1: Pool and then they was and then he came on
Speaker 1: the show. We we hit it off and they was like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're smart, Like well you want with you? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm I don't what do you want me to do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I would just Pool thank um. You know, I
Speaker 1: love Pool for that. He just took me under his wing,
Speaker 1: start showing me things, taking me on the road with them,
Speaker 1: and he was like, look right for now, you're just
Speaker 1: gonna be our own personal host. Wherever we go, You're
Speaker 1: just gonna introduce g So I was introducing them. They
Speaker 1: would take me to trips and stuff. And then once
Speaker 1: we got a record deal and ship start booming like
Speaker 1: um Glasses was like one day he was like hey,
Speaker 1: because because what ended up happening was I was standing
Speaker 1: behind the DJ shout to Nick Bean. I would stay
Speaker 1: behind the DJ and I would be telling him no,
Speaker 1: drop out right here, drop out, bring back around like
Speaker 1: I to where I'll just start ended up working in
Speaker 1: a fader. I didn't know how the DJ. Oh you
Speaker 1: wasn't even DJ And at this time I wasn't even
Speaker 1: a DJ at this Wow, Okay, I wasn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: even none of my handles were DJ nothing. Because I
Speaker 1: didn't earn that. I felt like that that needed to
Speaker 1: be earned. And then one day um Glasses like, hey,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be my DJ, and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to DJ. Mind you had always
Speaker 1: been intrigued by because I've been around. I came up
Speaker 1: under DJ Dance d J, d J Kelley, and so
Speaker 1: he was like, us gonna be my DJ. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, well, he was like when you could learn,
Speaker 1: you just you. You wanted the smartest things I know.
Speaker 1: So I was like all right, So I took a
Speaker 1: year to really learn how to d J home Vinyl
Speaker 1: like no surrounding. Yeah, I didn't have no, no craze.
Speaker 1: I didn't have no my own nothing. And you know,
Speaker 1: by the grace of God, um DJ cally b A
Speaker 1: d UMDJ, they would let me. I would be in
Speaker 1: there fucking the ship up in the club before the
Speaker 1: doors opened, like let me just learned. Yeah, I learned.
Speaker 1: I had to learn and real that's what I'm intelligent
Speaker 1: as hell, that's my superpower. But I had to learn
Speaker 1: fast because I didn't have my own equipment. I couldn't
Speaker 1: afford him. So by the time I really start picking
Speaker 1: up steam and learning really how to the craft of
Speaker 1: DJ and I'm carrying my homies turntables and like, please
Speaker 1: let me open up for you. And you know, Callie
Speaker 1: really looked out for me and bought my first mixer,
Speaker 1: my first needles bro. I wonder if that. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it's like I don't want to get to woo
Speaker 1: woo on it. But it's something in the water down
Speaker 1: there in Cerritos with DJ's like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is about that area, but it just produces some
Speaker 1: of the most talented I I don't and and actually
Speaker 1: it's like the Carson to Cerritos corridor that like I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I'm like, man, Curtis
Speaker 1: King did that. Uh, I see Ice did that? Like
Speaker 1: they did this Carson to Cerritos and I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is about that time. We used
Speaker 1: to I used to cross parties down there, mainly because
Speaker 1: like I was into Filipino girls. So you go to
Speaker 1: Creto Philipino cross which is I'm I'm incredibly married now,
Speaker 1: but at the time it's really outside. Uh, and there
Speaker 1: was man, it's so interesting to know that like that
Speaker 1: was a part of the story and shout out glasses
Speaker 1: man like was he in Signal Hill at the time.
Speaker 1: Then this is before the Signal Hill ship. He didn't
Speaker 1: have none of that. He didn't have the deal. He
Speaker 1: didn't have none of that. Like the first deal, the
Speaker 1: first deal we got was with Mike Lynn when when
Speaker 1: Mike Lynn went and started his own entertainment company with Tony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike signed Game to dress Um aftermath, but Mike Lynn
Speaker 1: signed classes and it was the biggest deal ever on
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Yeah, man, Okay, yeah, So I didn't
Speaker 1: know nothing about because I know, you know, I like
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was Glass's house when it was
Speaker 1: in Signal Hill like as many times times as because
Speaker 1: it was just always people there like so like and
Speaker 1: he would his whole shows, like little radio shows and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I came a couple of times
Speaker 1: with like Ta Kwan and just these different people just
Speaker 1: and then somebody to Actually it was Noah James who
Speaker 1: told me later. He was like, that was Glass's house
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait where. Yeah, I never put
Speaker 1: two and two together. I mean it was that was
Speaker 1: a studio that we had, but that this was all
Speaker 1: the way before all of all that, before all that, Okay,
Speaker 1: dang oh man. All right, that's incredible. So so we
Speaker 1: see a background story, your origin story with music, the hustle.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not waiting for nobody to tell you
Speaker 1: how like you won't figure this out yourself and do
Speaker 1: the work to earn every slot you got. My next
Speaker 1: question would be about like this expansion into because there
Speaker 1: was like it was a visible shift in you, like
Speaker 1: at least from my perspective, and being like, hey, look
Speaker 1: I know this rapper, you know, and that's my social media.
Speaker 1: Look at me. I'm with this rapper. Okay, alright, great,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Sure you know too, I'm
Speaker 1: interviewing the mayoral uh candidate. Joe said, like and about like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm learning about stock markets and finances and how economy
Speaker 1: works and like late stage capitalism, all this ship that
Speaker 1: I the same thing that I nerd out over. But
Speaker 1: I have to be very careful who I talked to
Speaker 1: about because Nigga's with just eyes with glaze over. So again,
Speaker 1: which was why I tried to perfect what we do
Speaker 1: in this podcast, is like, well, well let me learn
Speaker 1: how to say it differently. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because again, Nick's need to notice and too. It's actually
Speaker 1: if it if explained, well, it's actually very interesting, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and it's something that you need
Speaker 1: to know and probably would be good at, you know.
Speaker 1: So tell me about that transition. What sparked it? Was
Speaker 1: it always there or like? But what what made you
Speaker 1: decide to like kind of turn up things that happened.
Speaker 1: It's always been there in mind tregue with money, um,
Speaker 1: with finances and stuff has always be there because I
Speaker 1: never had it. I've been two thousand and fourteen, I
Speaker 1: was broke. Mm hmm, I just got financially stable in
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. Yeah, I was broke thirty one years.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty. I'm thirty eight now I'm not one
Speaker 1: of the people. You know, weird people be like O,
Speaker 1: don't tell my age, that's just weird. Yeah, um, I've been.
Speaker 1: I've only been fin actually stable for seven years. The
Speaker 1: whole rest of my life I was poor or broke
Speaker 1: or a combination of the two, either I financially or
Speaker 1: in spirit. But the I used to look forward to
Speaker 1: help poil loco because it was like, damn, if I
Speaker 1: if I have a good if I have a good
Speaker 1: week or two week run. I could treat myself oil loco.
Speaker 1: That's really what That's really what was reality up until
Speaker 1: and so it's always been there. But the real spark
Speaker 1: came from a couple of different things. One salas mm hmm.
Speaker 1: When I was when I was broke living with my mom,
Speaker 1: he used to tell me stop worrying about the money.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what it. Yeah, I don't understand what
Speaker 1: you don't worry? Yeah, You're like, bro, just work work
Speaker 1: on purpose. The money had come and I'm just like, bro,
Speaker 1: my phone is literally cut off. Ye like yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that it was one of that was a bigger, a
Speaker 1: big pivotal transition for me to learn that the art
Speaker 1: of manifestation of attraction positive thoughts. She liked that um.
Speaker 1: And then also the next thing was this girl. It
Speaker 1: was it was a girl. It always look, I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at you. That's how I got in the poetry.
Speaker 1: This girl was like you'd be good at this. It's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm laying in the bed with this girl and she
Speaker 1: doing something on her phone and I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? She was like, I'm checking my stocks. I
Speaker 1: was like, bro, that's white people ship. You got stocks
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, that's that's the way I've
Speaker 1: been brainwashed. White people ship. She was like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: into it. I'm like, what are you doing like and
Speaker 1: she's like, well, I'm right now. I'm saying I'm trading
Speaker 1: my stock. I'm doing shot. So she's like, I'm buying
Speaker 1: more stock and I'm just like, I was like, explain
Speaker 1: that to me, and she was like, well, she said
Speaker 1: what she did. What she This is some nigger ship,
Speaker 1: but it made sense to me. She said every time
Speaker 1: she would get it, she would like get a bonus
Speaker 1: at work or get some money or whatever. She would
Speaker 1: buy herself something nice and nice wallet and nice belt
Speaker 1: and I bag some shoes whatever, and some designer brand
Speaker 1: ship and high fashion ship. She said, Now what I
Speaker 1: do is I just go on the website and buy
Speaker 1: stock in that company instead of I buy stock. And
Speaker 1: so when I go to the club and I see
Speaker 1: the girls with the ship, I'm like, they're looking out
Speaker 1: a bitch. I appreciate you, and I'm just like it
Speaker 1: just made sense to me. Politics. That's exactly it that
Speaker 1: made that ship makes perfect sense. That is the stock market,
Speaker 1: that's it. But when I tell you, that ship fired
Speaker 1: off so many different nots nerving things in my brand. Bro,
Speaker 1: in my life hadn't been the same sense, so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't on this worm She put me on the robbing hood.
Speaker 1: It's like, She's like, it's easy. It's just like using
Speaker 1: your bank app. She put me on the robing hood.
Speaker 1: And I just went down to this wormhole of stocks
Speaker 1: and learning about that ship. And then I went into
Speaker 1: this thing where the goal, the goal for me, for
Speaker 1: the for my entire adult life, want to buy my
Speaker 1: mom my house. And I was just like, Bro, that's
Speaker 1: that's all I've been, that's all I That's all I
Speaker 1: ever wanted to do. It's two things that I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. I'm at my house and and be able
Speaker 1: to eat whatever I want for dinner. Those are my
Speaker 1: only two. Those are my only two goals. Bro. I
Speaker 1: just want to be able to eat whatever I want
Speaker 1: for dinner. And I want to buy my my house.
Speaker 1: I know there are two opposite extremes. Yeah, no, it
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense to me, but I just couldn't. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we grew up in welfare and ship so and I
Speaker 1: remember us leaving houses. I'm like, I just want to
Speaker 1: buy on the crib. So so we ain't never got
Speaker 1: to really go through that no more like we don't
Speaker 1: like my my grandma. We lost my grandma's house keep
Speaker 1: in our community. So um, in twenty five is when
Speaker 1: I start setting up, like I'm a buying my mom house.
Speaker 1: In two years, I started saving, I got my credit together,
Speaker 1: I started doing all these different things. I start learning
Speaker 1: real estate, and I started learning finances and ship like
Speaker 1: that where um my mom her crib and that's what's
Speaker 1: starting my my real estate journey. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: this ship is really obtainable. It's not it's not out
Speaker 1: of reach, like yeah, and um, I know rappers and
Speaker 1: ship like that who blow five thousand dollars in the
Speaker 1: strip club And I'm like, bro, for them nights, you
Speaker 1: could buy a five hundred thousand dollar house. Yes, you
Speaker 1: could buy five our house right now with dollars. Yes.
Speaker 1: And it's just like and and and then they never
Speaker 1: think about it like that, right, So long story short,
Speaker 1: And I was living in the studio apartment at that time.
Speaker 1: I just saved up my money and I was able
Speaker 1: to bless my mom and that way, and then um,
Speaker 1: after after that happened I saved up. The next year nineteen,
Speaker 1: I bought my house. And that's kind of what made
Speaker 1: me start going on his wormhole, like, man, this is
Speaker 1: really possible. Look like niggas can really do we keep
Speaker 1: in a car, me and my mom slipping a car
Speaker 1: bro saying we was. I was on welfare until we
Speaker 1: was until I turned eighteen. They kicked me off. I
Speaker 1: was on E d D, I was on unemployment all
Speaker 1: of that. I still got the unemployment car right now.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's a mind state thing. And so
Speaker 1: with starting my real estate thing. Really is when I
Speaker 1: got my house and I started understanding the game. Shout
Speaker 1: to my dude, Matt Lou looking through the whole ship
Speaker 1: in my reality robbed and they just really put me
Speaker 1: on game about a lot of stuff. And once you
Speaker 1: learn the game, you can't un learn it. Now I
Speaker 1: can't even fathom doing it another way. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense to me. And I haven't
Speaker 1: mind you to this day. Literally as we speak right now,
Speaker 1: I've never bought a new car. Yeah, I've never driven.
Speaker 1: I've never bought a new car. The only car that
Speaker 1: I've that I've driven is the one I'm driving right now,
Speaker 1: and it was a brand new car. And that's only
Speaker 1: because my mom wanted on. The price is right, it
Speaker 1: has to be a whole other side story. But the
Speaker 1: whole story that's amazing. I drove a Nissan CenTra right now.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. But I got two properties working on three. Listen,
Speaker 1: talk to him, Listen. I drove. I bought a truck
Speaker 1: in two thousand three and I sold it in the pandemic,
Speaker 1: like I drove it almost twenty years for the same
Speaker 1: reason because I'm like, I don't there's nothing wrong with this,
Speaker 1: and that's a depreciating value. Once somebody told me, you
Speaker 1: mean to tell me this the one thing that if
Speaker 1: I get it, it loses the second it's mine, it
Speaker 1: loses its value. Then this is a stupid investment. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna like yeah. So like and I and and
Speaker 1: I had to get another because I got two kids.
Speaker 1: I was like, we had to get another about paid cash.
Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't this is it? Like I'm
Speaker 1: going to drive this because like you said, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I got my house. There's a rental property in the back.
Speaker 1: I rent in the back, and I'm like, if if
Speaker 1: if renting exists. If there are such things as landlords,
Speaker 1: there must be one that would understand the type of
Speaker 1: upbringing we had. And it's going to give somebody a break,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so I was like,
Speaker 1: so I rent in the back, but I rent well
Speaker 1: below market because I'm like, I understand, save your bread
Speaker 1: and get out of my get out of renting out
Speaker 1: my backhouse so that you can go get your own.
Speaker 1: But this is just us being different because we've been
Speaker 1: through ship that we've been through. So so my thing
Speaker 1: is that's when it really started my real estate thing.
Speaker 1: And I just went down a wormhole of learning this
Speaker 1: ship and understanding it and doing the refive cash I
Speaker 1: refile like um, just learning the game and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's why they got all the money, Like that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why they got all of the money. That's why
Speaker 1: white people were rich at fun all that ship. So
Speaker 1: my tho is when when you look at certain pds
Speaker 1: outside to um. Actually, Salace said that one day he
Speaker 1: was like, as he said, that's why he went to
Speaker 1: school and got a degree. He wanted to know why
Speaker 1: they got all the money and we don't, right, uh huh.
Speaker 1: But My thing is when I started my real estate ship,
Speaker 1: it wasn't to make money. It was to really tell
Speaker 1: people like, hey, this ship is really possible. It's really
Speaker 1: not that able to acquire these things and it's not
Speaker 1: out of reach. So that's really what that's really what
Speaker 1: it what it was, man. So I feel like it's
Speaker 1: probably like the last question here. So I feel like
Speaker 1: what we've seen in like hip hop, you know, and
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, it's still a young genre.
Speaker 1: It's only we're stilling it's fifty years old. That's like
Speaker 1: you're not even on you're not even on Social Security yet,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a young genre. So we don't have you know,
Speaker 1: generations of like elder statesmen. Like the closest is like
Speaker 1: a jay Z, you know what I'm saying, who's like,
Speaker 1: But we've seen the transition from rapper to entertainer to actor.
Speaker 1: We've seen the transition from you know, rapper to business mogul.
Speaker 1: Like we've seen that. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: that has to do with the combination of understanding hustle
Speaker 1: and hard work because of what we came from and
Speaker 1: the value of what it takes to make a dollar,
Speaker 1: coupled with learning how the system actually works. It's like
Speaker 1: when you take this like really understanding like how much
Speaker 1: a dollar actually costs, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: put that with the knowledge base that you have, it's like,
Speaker 1: there's weird we would take over the world, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because because we have that piece, you
Speaker 1: don't have what we haven't seen. And I would argue,
Speaker 1: like one would some would say like Chuck D and
Speaker 1: Public Enemy were like you know, or early versions of
Speaker 1: going from rapper to politics, but they were just activists.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, we've always had that in hip hop.
Speaker 1: Somebody like Killer Mike, where I'm like, Okay, he's becoming
Speaker 1: a politician, you know what I'm saying, in the in
Speaker 1: the best way possible. What, Yeah, we haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's the first to like really come
Speaker 1: from authentically hip hop and then move into policy making
Speaker 1: in the way that he has understanding finances, understanding all
Speaker 1: these things. But like like in the way that jay
Speaker 1: Z moved into business, Killer Mike moving into politics, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited about ship like that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because the more you understand about finance, the more you know,
Speaker 1: you have to know politics because they are not they're
Speaker 1: not separate, you know. Um it's like we're seeing it
Speaker 1: in in local politics now, like I don't care how
Speaker 1: successful your businesses. There was a young man, um I
Speaker 1: forget home his name, but like he was gonna run
Speaker 1: for District nine, which is like my district. No, no,
Speaker 1: not not District nine. Uh lower east Side, so like
Speaker 1: South Central and watts on the east Side, right, So
Speaker 1: he was he was gonna run for district or he
Speaker 1: was a Mexican dude, and the elder statesman of our
Speaker 1: city council was like, hey, you can't like the other
Speaker 1: Mexican leaders, was like, you can't run here. He's like
Speaker 1: what He's like, It's where I grew up, is where
Speaker 1: I'm from. It was like we agreed that we were
Speaker 1: going to keep the East Side black m so you
Speaker 1: can't You're not allowed to run here. So the fool
Speaker 1: couldn't run for office because of the way power brokering works. Okay,
Speaker 1: how much money you got, Like you have to understand power,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I I am so
Speaker 1: intrigued at y'all adding that aspect to what you're doing.
Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about that that understanding
Speaker 1: of Like all right, we're to say when a big
Speaker 1: time election and we need to talk about politics. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we just need to utilize our platforms to
Speaker 1: do different things. Um, if I can, if I can
Speaker 1: have uh Skinny from the nine on my show talking
Speaker 1: about why he's justified and using an inn word, and
Speaker 1: I can have you know, being talk about selling drugs, well,
Speaker 1: I can't have Aaron Bass talking about what she's talking about,
Speaker 1: or Marquis Harris Dawson talking about destination Crenshaw or facts
Speaker 1: or renaming the Slawson Crenshaw and Nipty House a square
Speaker 1: like things that to the community. I just that's what
Speaker 1: my whole video thing was about today, is like talking
Speaker 1: about ship but don't do nothing. Like I think that
Speaker 1: people just need to get involved. It's all of these
Speaker 1: people that complain about ship. I won't do nothing. But
Speaker 1: it's not not willing to learn new processes of doing
Speaker 1: things want they want and it's not willing to do
Speaker 1: ship and not just not how That's not where I
Speaker 1: come from. Like, if you got a problem, address the
Speaker 1: problem directly. Don't straight up up tweet. Don't like you.
Speaker 1: You call somebody, or you get involved. You get involved,
Speaker 1: join the Boys and Girls Club, you joined the Grammy board,
Speaker 1: You get onto on the radio station, you get on television,
Speaker 1: learn any inner workings of how things go. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I had a whole television show that
Speaker 1: I was co hosting UM for Harvey Levin. Okay, Remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm somebody that's looked at and this is the thing
Speaker 1: that that was told to me. I'm somebody that's looked
Speaker 1: at as somebody that has an authority in this city
Speaker 1: with a high level of integrity. And I was on
Speaker 1: TMZ Hip Hop m right, and it was like I
Speaker 1: was told that, oh, this is gonna hurt your brand,
Speaker 1: This is gonna hurt No, it's not because I still
Speaker 1: instead I'm not. I'm not the one that's like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's blow this whole building up full of these
Speaker 1: meeting full of these racist people. I want to go
Speaker 1: in there and have a conversation with them. Nig they
Speaker 1: might got a point, ye know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: it's just it's certain things like that that I feel
Speaker 1: like needs have told me me and Chuck and our
Speaker 1: teams collectively, We've never been one to not have the conversation.
Speaker 1: Whatever that conversation might be, Like, that's something that um,
Speaker 1: I always wanted to do. But now that now that
Speaker 1: I'm a little free, it was figured out. I'm a
Speaker 1: little free to to do the things that I want
Speaker 1: to do. And I'll be dragging Chuck into some bullish it,
Speaker 1: but I really want to do that. I want to
Speaker 1: have those conversations like what's going on with the Jewish community.
Speaker 1: I want to have some money explaining ship to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know's going on, you know what I'm saying, or yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that that's what needs to happen. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think those things need to happen.
Speaker 1: Running away from it and complain and that ship is wet,
Speaker 1: I'm not working with that, and that's like like to
Speaker 1: bring it full circle. I feel like number one, this
Speaker 1: is why the homegrown radio co sign matters is because
Speaker 1: you are willing to do ship that everybody's not willing
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I'm saying. And number one
Speaker 1: and then number two, I feel like the you you
Speaker 1: you brought an authenticity to TMZ hip hop It's not
Speaker 1: like you're gonna go in there and you're gonna let
Speaker 1: them hand you a list of people you're supposed to interview.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like, no, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go in there and be it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Which is what I saw. I'm like, he's himself everywhere
Speaker 1: he goes, you know which is what? Which is again
Speaker 1: lines up with the whole authenticity of it, and why
Speaker 1: when you interview somebody like a Karen Gass, Karen Bass
Speaker 1: or anybody, none of us should ever question you because
Speaker 1: and not not in a sense to like take whatever
Speaker 1: you say is whatever, but that the fact that like
Speaker 1: you've already shown like, yeah, I'm as real as it comes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and I'm down to
Speaker 1: have the conversation. If I think you full of ship,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you on it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I think you make a good point, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you make a good point. But I think, lastly,
Speaker 1: again full circle to the point you was making in
Speaker 1: the beginning about the story you never told, is that
Speaker 1: I think people really need to understand that, you know, politics,
Speaker 1: it is transactional, like Karen Bass, ain't my friend, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We're not homies. You're applying
Speaker 1: for a job. These people are applying for a job
Speaker 1: and I get to hire you. That's the type of
Speaker 1: power we have. I'm interviewing you. Tell me, tell me
Speaker 1: why I should give you this type authority. This ship
Speaker 1: is transactional, it's symbiotic. You only have the power I
Speaker 1: give you. And when I walk in two day, today's
Speaker 1: November eight. If I walk in today and check your
Speaker 1: name on this check your name in this box to
Speaker 1: make me, you know what I'm saying, earn it, show
Speaker 1: me what you got. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I feel like like the point you was trying to
Speaker 1: make is like we don't have to be friends. Aren't
Speaker 1: to like you. I could change my mind at any moment.
Speaker 1: You only got two years on it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If I come back two years, you're back
Speaker 1: on the ballot. I'm like, oh no, you wouldn't who
Speaker 1: you said you was. You know I'm saying, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I don't owe you anything. You're saying energy and everything
Speaker 1: we always everybody, everybody in my life has to earn
Speaker 1: a position all the time. Yes, my mom, Yeah, who
Speaker 1: give you gave birth to me. I didn't ask to
Speaker 1: be here in my naked I'm saying, yeah, my dad
Speaker 1: asks sacked like, you know what, I want to be
Speaker 1: a Capricorn, get out there, January twelve. I didn't. That
Speaker 1: wasn't a that wasn't a thing. So you gotta earn it.
Speaker 1: I gotta earn your your respect. I gotta earn your
Speaker 1: I gotta earn your friendship. I gotta earn your Whatever
Speaker 1: we're doing, you gotta earn that ship. So I don't
Speaker 1: treat politicians any different than I treat people in my family.
Speaker 1: It's people like right now, verbally, when is the last
Speaker 1: time I spoke to you at the interview like you
Speaker 1: almost a year ago? Yeah, I already talked to you
Speaker 1: more than I talk to people in my family. See. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the nigs don't earn it. I don't give it
Speaker 1: like I don't care. That's really now. I feel you,
Speaker 1: So that that's where I'm coming from. So I don't
Speaker 1: treat politicians any different than I treat my own family members. Bro,
Speaker 1: you why why should I funk with you? That's the question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you sunk with me, But why should I
Speaker 1: funk with you? See? I see that it should be
Speaker 1: the name of are like political, So why should I
Speaker 1: funk with you? Like when you when you when you
Speaker 1: do when you launch that wing of head interviewing congressman,
Speaker 1: that's got to be the name of it. Why should
Speaker 1: I funk with you? I don't know if they let
Speaker 1: me do that? You independent? Now only Y's said yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm still you know, Chuck still yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: well head, thank you for your time. Man, I hold
Speaker 1: you too much longer. Man, I appreciate everything you're doing. Man,
Speaker 1: if you can't like drop your socials and networks, let
Speaker 1: everybody know where to find you. Man, my socials right
Speaker 1: now is at home Grown Radio. Let's go you see
Speaker 1: what you said about this thing. Let's go plug the squad. Okay,
Speaker 1: everything is homegrown Radio. And I do I got I
Speaker 1: think I got two interviews on y'alls archives over there.
Speaker 1: But like, man, this is really just one of like
Speaker 1: like legitimately give y'all y'all flowers. Man, you guys have
Speaker 1: built such a great thing. Um. I love everything you do,
Speaker 1: like Chuck is like salt to the earth. Obviously like salace, man,
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking forward to reconnecting with him more now
Speaker 1: that I was able to put two and two together.
Speaker 1: Like when I tell you a million years, I would
Speaker 1: have never put I would have never put it together
Speaker 1: million years until maybe he walked in the room and
Speaker 1: I would be like money, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, no, niggas.
Speaker 1: Niggas is here. You was here the whole time. I
Speaker 1: just got here. You know what I'm saying. I had
Speaker 1: to do it. Nig was here the all time. I
Speaker 1: can't stare y'all. Yeah, well look look that then what
Speaker 1: that proof is? I'm I'm as real as it gets.
Speaker 1: I don't talk weird about niggas when they're not around.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What I say to you
Speaker 1: a person, Huh, I wouldn't let you yeah, true, true, true.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is what when I
Speaker 1: don't know you in the room. This is how I
Speaker 1: talk about y'all. I really do respect and love everything
Speaker 1: y'all doing. Appreciate you, bro, Yeah man, now, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you all. Man. I wanta hold y'all up much longer.
Speaker 1: Uh shout out, Chuck say it was stuff real quick, Chuck,
Speaker 1: since you're there. You that's Chuck Dizel shout out, Brian
Speaker 1: Money Salas and I just talked to Courtland yesterday. Where
Speaker 1: Courtland's another friend from high school. I know none of
Speaker 1: y'all know what that is is that nigga's chest still gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I don't speak on nigga's chest. You can speak on
Speaker 1: Courtland's chess. Come on, that is uniquely Listen, hey, y'all, okay, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: Chuck head. We was in high school. This nigga Cortland
Speaker 1: was doing like a hundred push ups a day, and
Speaker 1: I remember, because we look like children. I look like
Speaker 1: a child. I didn't really grow facial here until I
Speaker 1: was in college. I look like a child. This nigga
Speaker 1: Cortland looked like a grown ass man. And I just
Speaker 1: remember being like this nigga looked like an adult, like
Speaker 1: this crazy. I just didn't know if if he gained
Speaker 1: weight or nothing. Do we look the same or what?
Speaker 1: That's the question. Looked the same. He just can't grow
Speaker 1: here on his head the same. Okay. Anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: we're rambling now. I appreciate your time, head, alright, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you everything, y'all doing all right, y'all? Yeah? This
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