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Speaker 1: y'all got you all right now we straight all right,

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Speaker 1: d J head, what's up me? Man? What's up with it? Bro?

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Speaker 1: Bro na do Look so everybody, first of all, welcome

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Speaker 1: to her politics will prop Uh you already know how

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Speaker 1: we do. We're gonna take some do someth a little

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Speaker 1: different today rather than just like go through the headlines

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Speaker 1: here uh on an interview one of the hummies, who man,

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Speaker 1: this this brother's expansion. I don't want to say shift

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Speaker 1: because that's not what it is. It's an expansion of

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Speaker 1: his world and what he's doing. It's just it's just

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Speaker 1: so dope to watch. Uh. First of all, ladies, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: it's don't boy DJ head say what's something? Man? Hey man, welcome,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the ship show. I appreciate everybody for rocket

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Speaker 1: with me, um, you know, staying supportive through my what

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Speaker 1: you say, evolution or your expansion, my expansion. Yeah, speaking away,

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Speaker 1: shout out to the fire Factory studios. Yeah, man, look

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Speaker 1: at this this food. Look okay, see that's that I'll see.

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Speaker 1: This is one reason why. I was like, now, you

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Speaker 1: I would have pulled it up on you. I know

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like that, the the the aesthetic standard that I know

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Speaker 1: you would already have would already be there. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't won't need to create nothing, he's gonna already have. Now,

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Speaker 1: I would have pulled it up on you. Bro, you

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Speaker 1: know what it is that's got some good video tacos.

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Speaker 1: I know you're good on this side too. I love tacos.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You can't not. I'll be meeting

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Speaker 1: it's perfect food because it's like it's all your food

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Speaker 1: because it's wrapped. You can eat it like you could

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Speaker 1: eat it's wrapped in a burrito. It's wrapped already. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, I'm trying to tell you, like the

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Speaker 1: thing is when you look at Okay, for instance, us

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Speaker 1: how to rolle my tongue, so whatever you're there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this being Mexico, like, I'm fully indulging in the culture. Bro.

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Speaker 1: I want all of it, all of it. I want

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Speaker 1: all already here. Why this nigga is on my show

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Speaker 1: right now because he's already too wed he got to

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Speaker 1: it yet. So look, so if you guys aren't familiar,

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Speaker 1: promote your record, it's cool. So I feel like with

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Speaker 1: Like it's not a transactional person like that. So what

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Speaker 1: eight am, getting knock on the door from Alex. Right, Alex.

420
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: You know, I can't give his last name because you

421
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: know I go but like you know, threp throws like

422
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying, like came out of prison.

423
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: You know. It was my Sunday school teacher. No less,

424
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like you know, he

425
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: was like very certified. You know, he would just he woke.

426
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: He would wake us up Saturday morning, knock on the door,

427
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: like tell my mom, hey, hey is Jason ready. He's

428
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: got to come late concrete with us. So my work ethic,

429
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: people ask me all the time by like my work

430
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: ethic and my pace and I'm like I was raised

431
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: by toughest nails. Mexican men. Men just you just work,

432
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: like I don't know, that's their answer. Men work? What

433
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: are you doing? You work? You know, all these all

434
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: these things stuff that it made it into songs like

435
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: leave a place better than you found it, like all

436
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: this ship that came from these Mexican men, like men work.

437
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You can't take care of

438
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: your family, You're not worth nothing, like just autists. These

439
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: gems that gave me why I live, Why I'm so

440
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: comfortable and boiled heights like I lived like I'm fine,

441
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, saying it's because like, man, I've been around y'all.

442
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: You know you also, I remember when I first went

443
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: to go meet my wife's family and Acapulco, Uh you

444
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: know that southern Mexico, right, So her grandfather's sister. We

445
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: go up the street, grandfather's sister. I'm around the corner

446
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at her and I was like, Babe,

447
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: who is that And she's like, oh, it's Mikes, like

448
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: my grandfather's sister. And I was like, that's a black woman.

449
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. That's a black woman.

450
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: Joe said, and she was like, oh yeah, she's like,

451
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: come to think of it. Then she starts showing me

452
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: pictures of her grandfather and I was like, he's black,

453
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: your grand I don't care what you say, y'all Afro Mexican,

454
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: like he's black. And what I love about like you

455
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: you you what you're hitting on is on the episode

456
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: actually that came out today on My Feet is Black Love,

457
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: Brown Pride, you know. So it was about the Luis

458
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: Martinez and stuff like that. Like but just when you

459
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: think about l a culture at least with with when

460
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: it comes to like black and brown and like Mexican stuff,

461
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: it's like at some point our cultural exchange becomes so intertwined.

462
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't like who bore the quartets first? I

463
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: don't know which one of us had dickies first. I

464
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: don't know the penalty. I don't know, you know what

465
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we just you know, like y'all low

466
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: writer music them like that's all the old these is

467
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: just black soul, Like y'all listen to the black soul

468
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: and your cars, you our cars, like that's one that

469
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: lowered your car? Wanted me gel what I'm saying like

470
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: wanted me, Gail put your system in you right, So

471
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm like you just I don't know who did it first.

472
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like the flannels, it don't

473
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: at this point, it don't matter, you know what I'm saying.

474
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: It don't matter. We are one, you know what I mean.

475
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: So like so I've always been about that too, and

476
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: I think that that's what makes us so, you know,

477
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: uniquely able to speak about broader issues because like you've

478
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: experienced something else, you know. I agree? Yeah, man, I

479
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: love it dig so so similar. Man, So did you

480
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: go to school in Wilmington's or would you? My mom

481
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: with my home school was Banning. I'm from card Okay, yeah,

482
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: I'm from Carson. So my mom, uh my mom wouldn't

483
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: let me go to Banning. She couldn't. When she was

484
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: going up there to get my paperwork done and stuff.

485
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: That was literally interested, She's like, yeah, you're not going here,

486
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: Like the cops were literally walking people walking two dudes

487
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: out of the out of the campus in handcuffs. That

488
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: was me and Workman. That was me and Workman. High

489
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: right there at that was me and Workman. Same thing. Yeah,

490
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: So she got my transfer paperwork. I went to go

491
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: our high school in Cerritos. Oh words, so that's where

492
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: that's how you So that's the noise all that world. Okay, yeah,

493
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: black Filipino, mostly white Asian, A lot of Asians um

494
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: over there in Cerritos. But but I really I really

495
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: appreciate my It was hectic. I ain't gonna lie to you,

496
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: like my upbringing with because we moved a lot, because

497
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: we was poor and ship like that. My mom didn't

498
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of help, so we had um. I

499
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: went to five elementary schools. Yeah, and so like, it

500
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: just was hectic. But I really appreciated because it gave

501
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: me a broad spectrum of life. Also later on in life,

502
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: it made me understand the value of education. When we

503
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: was in the hood, when I was going to school

504
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: and then Wood, I was in the fourth grade, I

505
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: was honor role principles, honor row three point five g

506
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: p A. I'm killing ship right when we moved. We

507
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: moved to Lakewood, and I'll start going to the white schools,

508
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: seeing the seeing the average, and that's what led me.

509
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: So like as I as I got old, I'm like

510
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: with our education in the hood, some bullshit, because I'm

511
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: going up over there. I'm I'm I'm I'm in the

512
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: Gate Program, Honored Student Honors. Every every every month, I'm honors.

513
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: And I go to the white school and I'm struggling.

514
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm feeling yes. So it's just certain things like that

515
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: that taught me nuance. And I'm really grateful for having

516
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: that nuance because I'm able to speak to both sides

517
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: of the spectrum. When I go to the s and

518
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I talked to these kids, that's so dope, bro, Like man,

519
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: it's it's just blowing my mind because like, yeah, I

520
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: went to three elementary schools and it was like and

521
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: but my mom's attitude was like and she's even said it,

522
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: she said it many times. She was like whatever and

523
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: white kids get, my baby gonna get. She's like, I

524
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: don't I don't care what we're doing. I don't care

525
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: how hard it is. And so for us, like our

526
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: homes was they where she showed me in a lot

527
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: of ways the value of like it's not that we

528
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: don't have money, it's what we're spending our money on.

529
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: And so for her, she was like I will break

530
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: bread for this, like will not have you know what

531
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'll drive you across town. You know

532
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, I'll find you this good school.

533
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: You feel me so like and and yeah, like I

534
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: went from same but it was the other way around.

535
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: So I started off because when I was really young,

536
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: my parents were still together so we had considerably more income.

537
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: When they split, I had to go to the public school.

538
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: So for me was when I noticed it was. I

539
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: remember specifically it was the transition from third to fourth grade.

540
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: When I went to fourth grade in my neighborhood, I

541
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: was like, this is all the work I did in

542
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: third grade, Like I had already done all of it,

543
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: and then yo, here's the real ship. My teacher, I

544
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: remember moms pulled up. My teacher gave me straight B

545
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: pluses right, and my my mom was like, what is

546
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand what is this B plus thing? And

547
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: she was and he was like, well he earned a's,

548
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: but I want him to still have something to work for.

549
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: And my mom was like, okay, time out. Like as

550
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: she lit that, man, I never forget it. I had

551
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: to leave the room because she was like, you are

552
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: not gonna deny my son one of the few black

553
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: boys here. Because now this was all Mexican school, you

554
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now I'm the only little

555
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: black boy at this school. So she like, you're not

556
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: going to deny my son. If he earned it, You're

557
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna give it to him, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

558
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: so that's a crazy anyway, we could talk for hours.

559
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: All right. So you go off to college. You go

560
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: to the Long Beach, Domingus. Now I go to Cerritos College,

561
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: but the Cerritos Okay, so you got to Cerrito's. I

562
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: know a little bit of this because because of money

563
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: or because of Brian Writo's college, and I signed up

564
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: for the So when I first when I first went

565
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: to Cerritos College, I went there and I was on

566
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: some ship like man, and I really want to do

567
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, radio. And what ended up happening was, uh,

568
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: you know what happened was I got I knew I

569
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: wanted to do radio. When I got to Cerrito's College,

570
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's the it's the registration day, so the

571
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: QualiTest pack all everybody here, and um I heard music

572
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: coming from across the campus on the things. So I

573
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: went to I walked up to the speaker. I literally

574
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: walked up to a speaker and I'm looking at the

575
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: speaker like I want to do this. So in the

576
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: in the radio station. It was the building right there,

577
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, Yo, how do I get on

578
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: the radio? That's dope, bro at Serrito's radio is dope.

579
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I just walked in the radios. I was like, how

580
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: do I get on the radio. They was like, oh,

581
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: you gotta go. You gotta talk to Professor Bright. Got

582
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: to Mr brad Man. So there was like, you gotta

583
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: talk to Professor Bright. And I'm like, well, where did Yeah.

584
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: They're like, he out there and at the at the

585
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: radio tent. You gotta go out there. So I went out.

586
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: It's a big, tall, white dude with glasses, big big

587
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: as smile like and they was like, that's him. So

588
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: I walked up to him and he's tall as ship bro.

589
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: So I tapped him on his back because I'm sure back.

590
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: He turned around. He's smiling. He's like, hey, I said this.

591
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I literally said this to this white man. I said,

592
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm dope. Put me on your radio station. Love it

593
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: real ship. Yeah, he just he just started laughing and

594
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: cracking up. He's like I like you. He's like, take

595
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: my class and I don't think about it. So I

596
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: signed up for radio broadcasting. And then um, I signed

597
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: up for radio broadcasting, took the whole course, learned everything

598
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: about that ship. Um me and Mondo Fresco, you know,

599
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: in the same class, my boy, um T, my boy

600
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Hollywood T. The next semester, I was on the radio

601
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: and Sarrito's, and then a lot of a lot of

602
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: people took the opportunity to like really dive into like

603
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: the minu ships of the radio ships. So they was

604
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: doing they was just doing turned down ship to keep

605
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: it a bluck like they was reading P. S. A.

606
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: S Oh today in the student help center, get your

607
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: flu shots and yeah stuff. I knew I knew a

608
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of the promoters in l A because I was

609
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: I was out, I was at the clubs and everything.

610
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: So I'm going to them, like, yo, give me, give

611
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: me like four tickets to give away on my radio show.

612
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: So because I knew everybody, um, I was getting the

613
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: same gets that big boy had to give away on

614
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: the radio. So wait, so back up, back up, back up.

615
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: How did you know everybody already? I had just been

616
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: I've just been going out, me and my board outside,

617
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: me and my Boyfat Dad. We was hitting it. We

618
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: was at We was in the club five six nights

619
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: a week. Okay, comedy shows, showcases whatever, I'm going to

620
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: the Laugh Factor, shot to my dou Um, Big Teflon

621
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: Ben and Um and and even young He. They used

622
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: to let me come to the laugh Factory, let me

623
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: in for free because I didn't have money like that.

624
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: So it would let me come to the laugh Factory

625
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: and I'll be in there and I'll be Red Grant,

626
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Derek Ellis, all these comedians. I would see my Mugg

627
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: come on my radio show. I got Red Grant to

628
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: come on my radio show or Cerrio's College College Radio

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Speaker 1: Bro two thousand four Bro listen, and that was like

630
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Speaker 1: the hype bro. Like we was making our rounds, you know,

631
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: because y'all because like in Cerrito's radio is dope, because

632
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: y'all have such to connect with with Stax Vinyl, you know,

633
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: and if you did, if you did in stores in there,

634
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: at some point you could get on the radio or Serritos.

635
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I did a couple in Stories and Stacks, so I doe, Yeah, no,

636
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: that's a good That was a good time. Man. So

637
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: I was just making my rounds and doing that, and

638
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: my ship just kind of blew up and we end up.

639
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I end up playing some I was playing two thousand

640
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: one Dr Dre because you remember it's two thousand four,

641
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: so like nink a game just came out like it's booming, right,

642
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, bro, it's up. I'm playing all of

643
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: this ship on the radio. I'm just playing playing it

644
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: and they're like, bro, you can't do that, Like you

645
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: just can't do play what you want to, like you,

646
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: but here's the way. I didn't know. And then again

647
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: this is ignorance and lack of education. Rito's College. It's

648
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 1: not just internet radio. They also have a signal on. Yeah,

649
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: so it's still governed by the FEEC. Yeah. So if

650
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: you just go and play some ship that ain't they

651
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: cursing and ship Dr Dre. I'm playing all that playing

652
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: its owns. Bro, they're getting in trouble. They I got

653
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: the school find like fifteen bands. I got kicked without

654
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: let's go um And it was just you just didn't know.

655
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: We was crashing the server because I was giving away tickets.

656
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: And that's that their internet serving, their internet radio station

657
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: thing isn't designed to handle that kind of band with

658
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: two thousand four, so like we didn't have that kind

659
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: of band with I'm editing music on cool Edit Pro

660
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: Bro before Adobe bought it, before audition. It was cool

661
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: atit Pro. I edited games three hundred bars in cool

662
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: Edit Pro. I literally did that. I edited myself so

663
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: I could play it on radio. And it took me

664
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: hours hours to edit games because games drop three hundred bars.

665
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, Bro, this is amazing. I want to play it.

666
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: I can't play it if it's not clean. I cleaned

667
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: it myself. So like those are the things that I

668
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: was doing in two thousand four, Bro, two tho five,

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00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and four toout the five. I'm doing these things,

670
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: and I'm going to the Laugh three every Sunday for

671
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: Chocolate Sunday so I can scout comedians to come on

672
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: my show. I'm going to every showcase you could think of,

673
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: Like it's just up and my show kind of blew up.

674
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: And then one day this dude name Poll hit me

675
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: up and he was like, Bro, I want to get

676
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: my artists on your show. He fun with Black wall

677
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Street's name is Glasses Malone, and I started working with

678
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Pool and then they was and then he came on

679
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: the show. We we hit it off and they was like, bro,

680
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: you're smart, Like well you want with you? And I'm like,

681
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: I'm I don't what do you want me to do? Yeah?

682
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: And I would just Pool thank um. You know, I

683
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: love Pool for that. He just took me under his wing,

684
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: start showing me things, taking me on the road with them,

685
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: and he was like, look right for now, you're just

686
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna be our own personal host. Wherever we go, You're

687
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: just gonna introduce g So I was introducing them. They

688
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: would take me to trips and stuff. And then once

689
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: we got a record deal and ship start booming like

690
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: um Glasses was like one day he was like hey,

691
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: because because what ended up happening was I was standing

692
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: behind the DJ shout to Nick Bean. I would stay

693
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: behind the DJ and I would be telling him no,

694
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: drop out right here, drop out, bring back around like

695
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: I to where I'll just start ended up working in

696
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: a fader. I didn't know how the DJ. Oh you

697
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: wasn't even DJ And at this time I wasn't even

698
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: a DJ at this Wow, Okay, I wasn't. I didn't

699
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: even none of my handles were DJ nothing. Because I

700
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: didn't earn that. I felt like that that needed to

701
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: be earned. And then one day um Glasses like, hey,

702
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be my DJ, and I'm like, bro,

703
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how to DJ. Mind you had always

704
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: been intrigued by because I've been around. I came up

705
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: under DJ Dance d J, d J Kelley, and so

706
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: he was like, us gonna be my DJ. And I'm

707
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: just like, well, he was like when you could learn,

708
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: you just you. You wanted the smartest things I know.

709
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: So I was like all right, So I took a

710
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: year to really learn how to d J home Vinyl

711
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: like no surrounding. Yeah, I didn't have no, no craze.

712
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have no my own nothing. And you know,

713
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Speaker 1: by the grace of God, um DJ cally b A

714
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: d UMDJ, they would let me. I would be in

715
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: there fucking the ship up in the club before the

716
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: doors opened, like let me just learned. Yeah, I learned.

717
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: I had to learn and real that's what I'm intelligent

718
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: as hell, that's my superpower. But I had to learn

719
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: fast because I didn't have my own equipment. I couldn't

720
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: afford him. So by the time I really start picking

721
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: up steam and learning really how to the craft of

722
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: DJ and I'm carrying my homies turntables and like, please

723
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: let me open up for you. And you know, Callie

724
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: really looked out for me and bought my first mixer,

725
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: my first needles bro. I wonder if that. I mean,

726
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: obviously it's like I don't want to get to woo

727
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: woo on it. But it's something in the water down

728
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: there in Cerritos with DJ's like, I don't know what

729
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: it is about that area, but it just produces some

730
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: of the most talented I I don't and and actually

731
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: it's like the Carson to Cerritos corridor that like I

732
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I'm like, man, Curtis

733
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: King did that. Uh, I see Ice did that? Like

734
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: they did this Carson to Cerritos and I don't. I

735
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: don't know what it is about that time. We used

736
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: to I used to cross parties down there, mainly because

737
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: like I was into Filipino girls. So you go to

738
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: Creto Philipino cross which is I'm I'm incredibly married now,

739
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: but at the time it's really outside. Uh, and there

740
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: was man, it's so interesting to know that like that

741
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: was a part of the story and shout out glasses

742
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: man like was he in Signal Hill at the time.

743
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: Then this is before the Signal Hill ship. He didn't

744
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: have none of that. He didn't have the deal. He

745
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: didn't have none of that. Like the first deal, the

746
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: first deal we got was with Mike Lynn when when

747
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Mike Lynn went and started his own entertainment company with Tony. Yeah,

748
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: Mike signed Game to dress Um aftermath, but Mike Lynn

749
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: signed classes and it was the biggest deal ever on

750
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Yeah, man, Okay, yeah, So I didn't

751
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: know nothing about because I know, you know, I like

752
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was Glass's house when it was

753
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: in Signal Hill like as many times times as because

754
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: it was just always people there like so like and

755
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: he would his whole shows, like little radio shows and

756
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I came a couple of times

757
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: with like Ta Kwan and just these different people just

758
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: and then somebody to Actually it was Noah James who

759
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: told me later. He was like, that was Glass's house

760
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait where. Yeah, I never put

761
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: two and two together. I mean it was that was

762
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: a studio that we had, but that this was all

763
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: the way before all of all that, before all that, Okay,

764
00:41:29,200 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: dang oh man. All right, that's incredible. So so we

765
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: see a background story, your origin story with music, the hustle.

766
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're not waiting for nobody to tell you

767
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: how like you won't figure this out yourself and do

768
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: the work to earn every slot you got. My next

769
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: question would be about like this expansion into because there

770
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: was like it was a visible shift in you, like

771
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: at least from my perspective, and being like, hey, look

772
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: I know this rapper, you know, and that's my social media.

773
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: Look at me. I'm with this rapper. Okay, alright, great,

774
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Sure you know too, I'm

775
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: interviewing the mayoral uh candidate. Joe said, like and about like, hey,

776
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm learning about stock markets and finances and how economy

777
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: works and like late stage capitalism, all this ship that

778
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: I the same thing that I nerd out over. But

779
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: I have to be very careful who I talked to

780
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: about because Nigga's with just eyes with glaze over. So again,

781
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: which was why I tried to perfect what we do

782
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: in this podcast, is like, well, well let me learn

783
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: how to say it differently. You know what I'm saying,

784
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: because again, Nick's need to notice and too. It's actually

785
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: if it if explained, well, it's actually very interesting, you

786
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and it's something that you need

787
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: to know and probably would be good at, you know.

788
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: So tell me about that transition. What sparked it? Was

789
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: it always there or like? But what what made you

790
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: decide to like kind of turn up things that happened.

791
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: It's always been there in mind tregue with money, um,

792
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: with finances and stuff has always be there because I

793
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: never had it. I've been two thousand and fourteen, I

794
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: was broke. Mm hmm, I just got financially stable in

795
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. Yeah, I was broke thirty one years.

796
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty. I'm thirty eight now I'm not one

797
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: of the people. You know, weird people be like O,

798
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: don't tell my age, that's just weird. Yeah, um, I've been.

799
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: I've only been fin actually stable for seven years. The

800
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: whole rest of my life I was poor or broke

801
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: or a combination of the two, either I financially or

802
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: in spirit. But the I used to look forward to

803
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: help poil loco because it was like, damn, if I

804
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: if I have a good if I have a good

805
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: week or two week run. I could treat myself oil loco.

806
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: That's really what That's really what was reality up until

807
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: and so it's always been there. But the real spark

808
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: came from a couple of different things. One salas mm hmm.

809
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: When I was when I was broke living with my mom,

810
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: he used to tell me stop worrying about the money.

811
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what it. Yeah, I don't understand what

812
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: you don't worry? Yeah, You're like, bro, just work work

813
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: on purpose. The money had come and I'm just like, bro,

814
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: my phone is literally cut off. Ye like yeah. So anyway,

815
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: that it was one of that was a bigger, a

816
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: big pivotal transition for me to learn that the art

817
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: of manifestation of attraction positive thoughts. She liked that um.

818
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: And then also the next thing was this girl. It

819
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: was it was a girl. It always look, I'm not

820
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: mad at you. That's how I got in the poetry.

821
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: This girl was like you'd be good at this. It's like, okay, yeah,

822
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm laying in the bed with this girl and she

823
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: doing something on her phone and I'm like, what are

824
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: you doing? She was like, I'm checking my stocks. I

825
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: was like, bro, that's white people ship. You got stocks

826
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, that's that's the way I've

827
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: been brainwashed. White people ship. She was like, well, I'm

828
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: into it. I'm like, what are you doing like and

829
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: she's like, well, I'm right now. I'm saying I'm trading

830
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: my stock. I'm doing shot. So she's like, I'm buying

831
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: more stock and I'm just like, I was like, explain

832
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: that to me, and she was like, well, she said

833
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: what she did. What she This is some nigger ship,

834
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: but it made sense to me. She said every time

835
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: she would get it, she would like get a bonus

836
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 1: at work or get some money or whatever. She would

837
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: buy herself something nice and nice wallet and nice belt

838
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: and I bag some shoes whatever, and some designer brand

839
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: ship and high fashion ship. She said, Now what I

840
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: do is I just go on the website and buy

841
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: stock in that company instead of I buy stock. And

842
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: so when I go to the club and I see

843
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: the girls with the ship, I'm like, they're looking out

844
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: a bitch. I appreciate you, and I'm just like it

845
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: just made sense to me. Politics. That's exactly it that

846
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: made that ship makes perfect sense. That is the stock market,

847
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: that's it. But when I tell you, that ship fired

848
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: off so many different nots nerving things in my brand. Bro,

849
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: in my life hadn't been the same sense, so I

850
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't on this worm She put me on the robbing hood.

851
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: It's like, She's like, it's easy. It's just like using

852
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: your bank app. She put me on the robing hood.

853
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: And I just went down to this wormhole of stocks

854
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: and learning about that ship. And then I went into

855
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: this thing where the goal, the goal for me, for

856
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: the for my entire adult life, want to buy my

857
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: mom my house. And I was just like, Bro, that's

858
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: that's all I've been, that's all I That's all I

859
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: ever wanted to do. It's two things that I wanted

860
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: to do. I'm at my house and and be able

861
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: to eat whatever I want for dinner. Those are my

862
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: only two. Those are my only two goals. Bro. I

863
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: just want to be able to eat whatever I want

864
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: for dinner. And I want to buy my my house.

865
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: I know there are two opposite extremes. Yeah, no, it

866
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense to me, but I just couldn't. So anyway,

867
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: we grew up in welfare and ship so and I

868
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: remember us leaving houses. I'm like, I just want to

869
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: buy on the crib. So so we ain't never got

870
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: to really go through that no more like we don't

871
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: like my my grandma. We lost my grandma's house keep

872
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: in our community. So um, in twenty five is when

873
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: I start setting up, like I'm a buying my mom house.

874
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: In two years, I started saving, I got my credit together,

875
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: I started doing all these different things. I start learning

876
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: real estate, and I started learning finances and ship like

877
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: that where um my mom her crib and that's what's

878
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: starting my my real estate journey. And I was just like,

879
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: this ship is really obtainable. It's not it's not out

880
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: of reach, like yeah, and um, I know rappers and

881
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: ship like that who blow five thousand dollars in the

882
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: strip club And I'm like, bro, for them nights, you

883
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: could buy a five hundred thousand dollar house. Yes, you

884
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: could buy five our house right now with dollars. Yes.

885
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: And it's just like and and and then they never

886
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: think about it like that, right, So long story short,

887
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: And I was living in the studio apartment at that time.

888
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: I just saved up my money and I was able

889
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: to bless my mom and that way, and then um,

890
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: after after that happened I saved up. The next year nineteen,

891
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: I bought my house. And that's kind of what made

892
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: me start going on his wormhole, like, man, this is

893
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: really possible. Look like niggas can really do we keep

894
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: in a car, me and my mom slipping a car

895
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: bro saying we was. I was on welfare until we

896
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: was until I turned eighteen. They kicked me off. I

897
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: was on E d D, I was on unemployment all

898
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: of that. I still got the unemployment car right now.

899
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: And it's like it's a mind state thing. And so

900
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: with starting my real estate thing. Really is when I

901
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: got my house and I started understanding the game. Shout

902
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: to my dude, Matt Lou looking through the whole ship

903
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: in my reality robbed and they just really put me

904
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: on game about a lot of stuff. And once you

905
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: learn the game, you can't un learn it. Now I

906
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: can't even fathom doing it another way. I don't know.

907
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense to me. And I haven't

908
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: mind you to this day. Literally as we speak right now,

909
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: I've never bought a new car. Yeah, I've never driven.

910
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: I've never bought a new car. The only car that

911
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: I've that I've driven is the one I'm driving right now,

912
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: and it was a brand new car. And that's only

913
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: because my mom wanted on. The price is right, it

914
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: has to be a whole other side story. But the

915
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: whole story that's amazing. I drove a Nissan CenTra right now.

916
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: Uh huh. But I got two properties working on three. Listen,

917
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: talk to him, Listen. I drove. I bought a truck

918
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: in two thousand three and I sold it in the pandemic,

919
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: like I drove it almost twenty years for the same

920
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: reason because I'm like, I don't there's nothing wrong with this,

921
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: and that's a depreciating value. Once somebody told me, you

922
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: mean to tell me this the one thing that if

923
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: I get it, it loses the second it's mine, it

924
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: loses its value. Then this is a stupid investment. I'm

925
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: just gonna like yeah. So like and I and and

926
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: I had to get another because I got two kids.

927
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: I was like, we had to get another about paid cash.

928
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't this is it? Like I'm

929
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: going to drive this because like you said, and I'm like,

930
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: I got my house. There's a rental property in the back.

931
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: I rent in the back, and I'm like, if if

932
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: if renting exists. If there are such things as landlords,

933
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: there must be one that would understand the type of

934
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: upbringing we had. And it's going to give somebody a break,

935
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so I was like,

936
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: so I rent in the back, but I rent well

937
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: below market because I'm like, I understand, save your bread

938
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: and get out of my get out of renting out

939
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: my backhouse so that you can go get your own.

940
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: But this is just us being different because we've been

941
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: through ship that we've been through. So so my thing

942
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: is that's when it really started my real estate thing.

943
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: And I just went down a wormhole of learning this

944
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: ship and understanding it and doing the refive cash I

945
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: refile like um, just learning the game and it's like, oh,

946
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: that's why they got all the money, Like that's why,

947
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: that's why they got all of the money. That's why

948
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: white people were rich at fun all that ship. So

949
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: my tho is when when you look at certain pds

950
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: outside to um. Actually, Salace said that one day he

951
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: was like, as he said, that's why he went to

952
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: school and got a degree. He wanted to know why

953
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: they got all the money and we don't, right, uh huh.

954
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: But My thing is when I started my real estate ship,

955
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: it wasn't to make money. It was to really tell

956
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: people like, hey, this ship is really possible. It's really

957
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: not that able to acquire these things and it's not

958
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: out of reach. So that's really what that's really what

959
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: it what it was, man. So I feel like it's

960
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: probably like the last question here. So I feel like

961
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: what we've seen in like hip hop, you know, and

962
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, it's still a young genre.

963
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: It's only we're stilling it's fifty years old. That's like

964
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: you're not even on you're not even on Social Security yet,

965
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like it's it's a

966
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: it's a young genre. So we don't have you know,

967
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: generations of like elder statesmen. Like the closest is like

968
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: a jay Z, you know what I'm saying, who's like,

969
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: But we've seen the transition from rapper to entertainer to actor.

970
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: We've seen the transition from you know, rapper to business mogul.

971
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: Like we've seen that. And I think a lot of

972
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: that has to do with the combination of understanding hustle

973
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: and hard work because of what we came from and

974
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: the value of what it takes to make a dollar,

975
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: coupled with learning how the system actually works. It's like

976
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: when you take this like really understanding like how much

977
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: a dollar actually costs, you know what I'm saying, and

978
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: put that with the knowledge base that you have, it's like,

979
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: there's weird we would take over the world, you know

980
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because because we have that piece, you

981
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: don't have what we haven't seen. And I would argue,

982
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: like one would some would say like Chuck D and

983
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: Public Enemy were like you know, or early versions of

984
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: going from rapper to politics, but they were just activists.

985
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: And I'm like, we've always had that in hip hop.

986
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: Somebody like Killer Mike, where I'm like, Okay, he's becoming

987
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: a politician, you know what I'm saying, in the in

988
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: the best way possible. What, Yeah, we haven't seen that.

989
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: I feel like he's the first to like really come

990
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: from authentically hip hop and then move into policy making

991
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: in the way that he has understanding finances, understanding all

992
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: these things. But like like in the way that jay

993
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: Z moved into business, Killer Mike moving into politics, and

994
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited about ship like that, you know what I'm saying,

995
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: because the more you understand about finance, the more you know,

996
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: you have to know politics because they are not they're

997
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: not separate, you know. Um it's like we're seeing it

998
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: in in local politics now, like I don't care how

999
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: successful your businesses. There was a young man, um I

1000
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: forget home his name, but like he was gonna run

1001
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: for District nine, which is like my district. No, no,

1002
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: not not District nine. Uh lower east Side, so like

1003
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: South Central and watts on the east Side, right, So

1004
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: he was he was gonna run for district or he

1005
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: was a Mexican dude, and the elder statesman of our

1006
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: city council was like, hey, you can't like the other

1007
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: Mexican leaders, was like, you can't run here. He's like

1008
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: what He's like, It's where I grew up, is where

1009
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: I'm from. It was like we agreed that we were

1010
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: going to keep the East Side black m so you

1011
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: can't You're not allowed to run here. So the fool

1012
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: couldn't run for office because of the way power brokering works. Okay,

1013
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: how much money you got, Like you have to understand power,

1014
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I I am so

1015
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: intrigued at y'all adding that aspect to what you're doing.

1016
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about that that understanding

1017
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: of Like all right, we're to say when a big

1018
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: time election and we need to talk about politics. Yeah,

1019
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: I think we just need to utilize our platforms to

1020
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: do different things. Um, if I can, if I can

1021
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: have uh Skinny from the nine on my show talking

1022
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: about why he's justified and using an inn word, and

1023
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: I can have you know, being talk about selling drugs, well,

1024
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: I can't have Aaron Bass talking about what she's talking about,

1025
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: or Marquis Harris Dawson talking about destination Crenshaw or facts

1026
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: or renaming the Slawson Crenshaw and Nipty House a square

1027
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: like things that to the community. I just that's what

1028
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: my whole video thing was about today, is like talking

1029
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: about ship but don't do nothing. Like I think that

1030
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: people just need to get involved. It's all of these

1031
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: people that complain about ship. I won't do nothing. But

1032
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: it's not not willing to learn new processes of doing

1033
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: things want they want and it's not willing to do

1034
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: ship and not just not how That's not where I

1035
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: come from. Like, if you got a problem, address the

1036
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: problem directly. Don't straight up up tweet. Don't like you.

1037
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: You call somebody, or you get involved. You get involved,

1038
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: join the Boys and Girls Club, you joined the Grammy board,

1039
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: You get onto on the radio station, you get on television,

1040
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: learn any inner workings of how things go. You know

1041
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I had a whole television show that

1042
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: I was co hosting UM for Harvey Levin. Okay, Remember, yeah,

1043
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm somebody that's looked at and this is the thing

1044
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: that that was told to me. I'm somebody that's looked

1045
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: at as somebody that has an authority in this city

1046
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: with a high level of integrity. And I was on

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00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: TMZ Hip Hop m right, and it was like I

1048
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: was told that, oh, this is gonna hurt your brand,

1049
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: This is gonna hurt No, it's not because I still

1050
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: instead I'm not. I'm not the one that's like, hey,

1051
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: let's let's blow this whole building up full of these

1052
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: meeting full of these racist people. I want to go

1053
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: in there and have a conversation with them. Nig they

1054
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: might got a point, ye know what I'm saying. Like,

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00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's certain things like that that I feel

1056
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: like needs have told me me and Chuck and our

1057
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: teams collectively, We've never been one to not have the conversation.

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00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: Whatever that conversation might be, Like, that's something that um,

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: I always wanted to do. But now that now that

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00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm a little free, it was figured out. I'm a

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00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: little free to to do the things that I want

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00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: to do. And I'll be dragging Chuck into some bullish it,

1063
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: but I really want to do that. I want to

1064
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: have those conversations like what's going on with the Jewish community.

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00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: I want to have some money explaining ship to me. Yeah,

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00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I know's going on, you know what I'm saying, or yeah,

1067
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: but I think that that's what needs to happen. You

1068
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think those things need to happen.

1069
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: Running away from it and complain and that ship is wet,

1070
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm not working with that, and that's like like to

1071
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: bring it full circle. I feel like number one, this

1072
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: is why the homegrown radio co sign matters is because

1073
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: you are willing to do ship that everybody's not willing

1074
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I'm saying. And number one

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: and then number two, I feel like the you you

1076
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: you brought an authenticity to TMZ hip hop It's not

1077
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: like you're gonna go in there and you're gonna let

1078
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: them hand you a list of people you're supposed to interview.

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00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like, no, you're gonna

1080
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: go in there and be it. You know what I'm saying,

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00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: Which is what I saw. I'm like, he's himself everywhere

1082
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: he goes, you know which is what? Which is again

1083
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: lines up with the whole authenticity of it, and why

1084
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: when you interview somebody like a Karen Gass, Karen Bass

1085
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: or anybody, none of us should ever question you because

1086
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: and not not in a sense to like take whatever

1087
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: you say is whatever, but that the fact that like

1088
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: you've already shown like, yeah, I'm as real as it comes,

1089
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and I'm down to

1090
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: have the conversation. If I think you full of ship,

1091
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you on it, you know what I'm saying.

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: If I think you make a good point, I'm gonna

1093
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: let you make a good point. But I think, lastly,

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00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: again full circle to the point you was making in

1095
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: the beginning about the story you never told, is that

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: I think people really need to understand that, you know, politics,

1097
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: it is transactional, like Karen Bass, ain't my friend, like

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00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We're not homies. You're applying

1099
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: for a job. These people are applying for a job

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00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: and I get to hire you. That's the type of

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01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: power we have. I'm interviewing you. Tell me, tell me

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01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: why I should give you this type authority. This ship

1103
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: is transactional, it's symbiotic. You only have the power I

1104
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: give you. And when I walk in two day, today's

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: November eight. If I walk in today and check your

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01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: name on this check your name in this box to

1107
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: make me, you know what I'm saying, earn it, show

1108
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: me what you got. You know what I'm saying. And

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01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: I feel like like the point you was trying to

1110
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: make is like we don't have to be friends. Aren't

1111
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: to like you. I could change my mind at any moment.

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: You only got two years on it. You know what

1113
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If I come back two years, you're back

1114
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: on the ballot. I'm like, oh no, you wouldn't who

1115
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: you said you was. You know I'm saying, I'm done.

1116
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't owe you anything. You're saying energy and everything

1117
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: we always everybody, everybody in my life has to earn

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01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: a position all the time. Yes, my mom, Yeah, who

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01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: give you gave birth to me. I didn't ask to

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01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: be here in my naked I'm saying, yeah, my dad

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01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: asks sacked like, you know what, I want to be

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: a Capricorn, get out there, January twelve. I didn't. That

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01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: wasn't a that wasn't a thing. So you gotta earn it.

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01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: I gotta earn your your respect. I gotta earn your

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: I gotta earn your friendship. I gotta earn your Whatever

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01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: we're doing, you gotta earn that ship. So I don't

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01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: treat politicians any different than I treat people in my family.

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Speaker 1: It's people like right now, verbally, when is the last

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01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: time I spoke to you at the interview like you

1130
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: almost a year ago? Yeah, I already talked to you

1131
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: more than I talk to people in my family. See. Yeah,

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01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: but the nigs don't earn it. I don't give it

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01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: like I don't care. That's really now. I feel you,

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01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: So that that's where I'm coming from. So I don't

1135
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Speaker 1: treat politicians any different than I treat my own family members. Bro,

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01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: you why why should I funk with you? That's the question. Yeah,

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: I know you sunk with me, But why should I

1138
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: funk with you? See? I see that it should be

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01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: the name of are like political, So why should I

1140
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: funk with you? Like when you when you when you

1141
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: do when you launch that wing of head interviewing congressman,

1142
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: that's got to be the name of it. Why should

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01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: I funk with you? I don't know if they let

1144
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: me do that? You independent? Now only Y's said yeah,

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01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: but I'm still you know, Chuck still yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Anyway,

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01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: well head, thank you for your time. Man, I hold

1147
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: you too much longer. Man, I appreciate everything you're doing. Man,

1148
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: if you can't like drop your socials and networks, let

1149
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: everybody know where to find you. Man, my socials right

1150
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: now is at home Grown Radio. Let's go you see

1151
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: what you said about this thing. Let's go plug the squad. Okay,

1152
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: everything is homegrown Radio. And I do I got I

1153
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: think I got two interviews on y'alls archives over there.

1154
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: But like, man, this is really just one of like

1155
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: like legitimately give y'all y'all flowers. Man, you guys have

1156
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: built such a great thing. Um. I love everything you do,

1157
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: like Chuck is like salt to the earth. Obviously like salace, man,

1158
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking forward to reconnecting with him more now

1159
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: that I was able to put two and two together.

1160
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: Like when I tell you a million years, I would

1161
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: have never put I would have never put it together

1162
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: million years until maybe he walked in the room and

1163
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: I would be like money, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, no, niggas.

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01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: Niggas is here. You was here the whole time. I

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01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: just got here. You know what I'm saying. I had

1166
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: to do it. Nig was here the all time. I

1167
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: can't stare y'all. Yeah, well look look that then what

1168
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: that proof is? I'm I'm as real as it gets.

1169
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't talk weird about niggas when they're not around.

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01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What I say to you

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01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: a person, Huh, I wouldn't let you yeah, true, true, true.

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is what when I

1173
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: don't know you in the room. This is how I

1174
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: talk about y'all. I really do respect and love everything

1175
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: y'all doing. Appreciate you, bro, Yeah man, now, I appreciate

1176
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: you all. Man. I wanta hold y'all up much longer.

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01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: Uh shout out, Chuck say it was stuff real quick, Chuck,

1178
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: since you're there. You that's Chuck Dizel shout out, Brian

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: Money Salas and I just talked to Courtland yesterday. Where

1180
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: Courtland's another friend from high school. I know none of

1181
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: y'all know what that is is that nigga's chest still gorgeous.

1182
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't speak on nigga's chest. You can speak on

1183
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: Courtland's chess. Come on, that is uniquely Listen, hey, y'all, okay, listen, listen,

1184
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: Chuck head. We was in high school. This nigga Cortland

1185
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: was doing like a hundred push ups a day, and

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01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: I remember, because we look like children. I look like

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01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: a child. I didn't really grow facial here until I

1188
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: was in college. I look like a child. This nigga

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01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: Cortland looked like a grown ass man. And I just

1190
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: remember being like this nigga looked like an adult, like

1191
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: this crazy. I just didn't know if if he gained

1192
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: weight or nothing. Do we look the same or what?

1193
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: That's the question. Looked the same. He just can't grow

1194
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: here on his head the same. Okay. Anyway, all right,

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01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: we're rambling now. I appreciate your time, head, alright, I

1196
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: appreciate you everything, y'all doing all right, y'all? Yeah? This

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Speaker 1: is his Thing was recorded by Me Propaganda and East

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Speaker 1: Low Spoil Heights, Los Angeles, California. This mug was mixed, edited, mastered,

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Speaker 1: and scored by Matt Ososki. I can totally say his name, guys,

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was a stick. He's won by Matt

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Speaker 1: now again because he got to legal situations with the

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01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: name head lights. Y'all know, comment used to be called

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: common sense, you know, tippy t. I was tipped The

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Speaker 1: Times That Happened Executive produced by the one and only

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Speaker 1: Sophie Lichtman for Cool Zone Media and the theme music

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Speaker 1: by the one and only Gold Tips Gold Tips d

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Speaker 1: J Shawn p. So y'all just remember listening time you

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: check in. If you understand city living, you understand politics.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how next week