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Speaker 1: Oh, good time. Steve Tasker texts text a time, and

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Speaker 1: we begin again a Thursday afternoon at New Airfield. One

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Speaker 1: Bills drive John Murphy's team Tasker in our one Buffalo

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Speaker 1: studio right next to New Airfield. On the other side

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Speaker 1: of us, the um Grass practice field with the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills are assembling as we speak Thursday practice moments away.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna head out there with Chris Brown in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody. I'm John Murphy, joined by Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: a long time Bill Special team's, a seven time pro

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Speaker 1: bowler and the co host of One Bills. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: last I trying to find my center here, Like, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean, It's been a hectic day in the

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Speaker 1: preparation office over there where we're Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't have a Ryder Cup wasn't on

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Speaker 1: and tomorrow we can know. I know, I know it's

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Speaker 1: and it's all these all this political TV was taken

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Speaker 1: over my program. I can see that that got you.

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Speaker 1: I could tell that got a little bit worked up. Yeah, PLU,

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Speaker 1: you know, putting together show, we ran into some some

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Speaker 1: snags and having to get that taken care of and

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Speaker 1: I'm just all I'm stalled a dither today. Well, now

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Speaker 1: you have a nice three hours just to relax, sit back,

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Speaker 1: relax and converse. It's good to be with you, mur

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Speaker 1: I can always count on you. I always count on

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Speaker 1: getting drunk on. It's all gonna be good. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be good. It is gonna be good. We have our

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Speaker 1: we have our game draft tonight. You gotta be there

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Speaker 1: for that hockey game, so you, Steve's got me in

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Speaker 1: and I've I've I've avoided Sabers hockey for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. I'm not ashamed to say it was because

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Speaker 1: of the tank. Um. I didn't believe in that. I

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Speaker 1: still don't. And I thought, well, if they're not going

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Speaker 1: to try to win, I'm not gonna buy any tickets.

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Speaker 1: So I did not. I haven't gone to a Sabers

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Speaker 1: game and at least two maybe three years. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I can get that. I respect that because you know

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Speaker 1: that you always say, hey, you don't have to buy

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna you make right. So I probably

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch any full game two years. So I've

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Speaker 1: been I've been coaxing him back over the last six months.

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Speaker 1: Season ticket I'm a season ticket holder and I haven't

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Speaker 1: been for a long time, like the last two years.

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Speaker 1: Is when it was, and um I started in on it,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, any know how it is

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Speaker 1: with sabers. You know, none of us can go to

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Speaker 1: all the games unless you're really employed by the club, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just too many of them, so you

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Speaker 1: share the tickets. So I got Murph to sign on

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Speaker 1: for a couple of games this year. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought, I think I said this to you. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was during the summer, right around the time time

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Speaker 1: worst seam in the league. Yeah again, yeah, I said,

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Speaker 1: get back into it a little bit. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: other night there on TV what month know, the game

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Speaker 1: I was home. I don't watch a lot of TV,

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Speaker 1: but I stopped and watching about fifteen minutes of the game,

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Speaker 1: and my wife said to me, what's the matter with you?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? See what you're watching? Hockey? You

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Speaker 1: Get ready for it. There's gonna be a little more

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Speaker 1: hockey on this flat screen TV over the next few months.

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Speaker 1: So and Steve did it too. I bought a couple

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Speaker 1: of games, and we're gonna draft for games. I do

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Speaker 1: have no strategy here. What should my strategy be? What

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Speaker 1: do you? What do you? I don't care my strategy.

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Speaker 1: I don't care who the opponent is. Let me say that, right,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll probably it's about your schedule. For me,

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Speaker 1: it's a schedule it' and I'm with you, really jam

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Speaker 1: peck schedule. So I we have two we got we

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Speaker 1: got two pair of tickets, right, So we have two

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Speaker 1: all forty one games in both sets. So we got

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Speaker 1: But last year we wanted to get early games, and

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Speaker 1: have a single game during January, and then we went

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Speaker 1: later than you know at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: That was a bad strategy for the way that season.

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Speaker 1: Why so they were out of it. We were off.

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Speaker 1: We were there on opening night last year and it

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Speaker 1: rough season. So the only strategy, it's schedule. Based on

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Speaker 1: my part. I usually and I probably will get the

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Speaker 1: Canisius college basketball season tickets again, so I'd like to

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Speaker 1: avoid conflicts. Conflicts there. Um, Actually I should get a

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Speaker 1: because if I have to choose between sandhome and watching

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Speaker 1: take sahome and watch the TV. Yes, right, Yes, So

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Speaker 1: that's another thing I got to avoid. I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: I say, people, if I pick what's the worst team

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Speaker 1: So that's the idea, right for So for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: you've got a second job. Yeah, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: because that's crazy. It's a lot that's crazy. I don't

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Speaker 1: but that's that's We got to do that tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 1: over a couple of pops, and well it'll be fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably say, no, Dar, I've got the Rangers that night.

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Speaker 1: You know you want you can't do that, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you no, you can if you want, you'll be You'll

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Speaker 1: but in both Bills and the Saves. Yeah, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm in a good spot right here, right here you are.

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Speaker 1: We're off coming off a big win and now we're

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Speaker 1: I'm today's a good day now that you've talked me

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Speaker 1: of Brownie and practice. Brownie is at practice. Practice is

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Speaker 1: and our man, Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: dot Com, standing, my live out there. Good afternoon, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Hope you're doing well out there, doing okay. It's a

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Speaker 1: What about McCoy who yesterday was limited, did not play

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Speaker 1: why he just wasn't ready to go last week. He said, essentially,

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Speaker 1: the weekend. And yesterday, he said, was the first day

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Speaker 1: he said there's still a little residual pain there, but

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah, he's out here again today, right, And

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Speaker 1: I think the thing he said yesterday was switching directions.

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Speaker 1: Cutting and changing directions are still the thing that gives

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Speaker 1: him some pain. Right. Well, Yeah, and you know what

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427
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Speaker 1: down in the box because you're having trouble stopping Lashawn McCoy,

428
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Speaker 1: now you're single safety high and you know you should

429
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Speaker 1: have a couple of advantages where you can take some

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Speaker 1: shots in the passing game, and we all know Josh

431
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Speaker 1: can air it out. It seems like they're trying to

432
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Speaker 1: starting to really ask. They're targeting Robert Foster, particularly on

433
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Speaker 1: the deep balls. Ray Ray McLeod's getting some more reps.

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Speaker 1: Andre Holmes had a couple of catches last week, But

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Speaker 1: it's the number one guy, Kelvin Benjamin and Zay Jones

436
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Speaker 1: who seemed to be almost non existent at times. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think there's a part there too,

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Speaker 1: where they're encouraging Josh to take what the defense gives

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Speaker 1: him instead of force feeding a ball to maybe Kelvin

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Speaker 1: or Zay per Se. I think Kelvin still the most

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Speaker 1: targeted receiver on the roster right now. He just hasn't

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Speaker 1: come up with maybe as many receptions as you know,

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Speaker 1: outside observers might expect. But I think that's going to

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Speaker 1: come in time. We got to remember here, we're only

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Speaker 1: three games into the season, and you've only got a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that's been on the field for two of those

447
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Speaker 1: three or two and a half of those three games.

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Speaker 1: So I still think there's some chemistry to be had there.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know people or have been critical of

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Speaker 1: Kelvin through the first few games here, but you know,

451
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Speaker 1: three games does not a season make I think they'll

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Speaker 1: kind of get that together in terms of hooking up

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Speaker 1: more often and more consistently in short order. Here it

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Speaker 1: was speaking to Josh Allen. You know what I was

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Speaker 1: impressed by from him yesterday in his post practice comments.

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Speaker 1: So he has his game in Minnesota, the stunning upset victory.

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Speaker 1: He's the quarterback. He jumps over linebackers, he flies like

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Speaker 1: Superman into the end zone for a touchdown. He's the

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Speaker 1: toast of the town essentially, and he seemed yesterday kind

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Speaker 1: of well grounded and sort of had the right perspective

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Speaker 1: on how he played less Sunday and what still lies

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Speaker 1: ahead for him. I love that part of his demeanor.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not caught up in how well things

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Speaker 1: went Sunday, right, And I think that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: what coach McDermott described him as personality wise. I mean,

466
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Speaker 1: he's steady Eddie. He doesn't really kind of get too

467
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Speaker 1: high with the highs, too low with the lows. He

468
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Speaker 1: doesn't buy into the outside noise at all, whether it's

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Speaker 1: positive or negative. And so I think that's what you

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Speaker 1: need at the quarterback position. You need a guy that's

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Speaker 1: even keeled, whether you know, you feel like the roof

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Speaker 1: is caving in or whether you're up twenty seven to

473
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Speaker 1: nothing in a football game. So that's an encouraging response

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Speaker 1: that we got from Josh, and he wasn't alone. There

475
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Speaker 1: were other young players in the locker room not more

476
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Speaker 1: than fifteen minutes after the game that we're saying, look,

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Speaker 1: we're really happy that things worked out this way in

478
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Speaker 1: this game and we were able to dominate and win

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Speaker 1: in convincing fashion. But you know, come Monday afternoon at

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Speaker 1: four pm, you know we're onto Green Bay. And so

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Speaker 1: I think it's a very healthy attitude that's permeated the

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Speaker 1: locker room. And obviously that's an agenda that's been pushed

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Speaker 1: by the veteran leaders in that locker room, and the

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Speaker 1: message has been effectively received because you're hearing the young

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Speaker 1: players repeating it. Very early in the week after a

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Speaker 1: very big victory. Talk Brownie, I was going to ask

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Speaker 1: you give us your insights. Now it's three days ago,

488
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Speaker 1: the big win in Minnesota. You look back at it,

489
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: how many things came together to go right for the

490
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Speaker 1: Bills to help them win that game. I mean, there's

491
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Speaker 1: no question that Josh Allen showed another step in his

492
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: growth that's pass rush was better. You know, the Bills

493
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: got penalized twice as much as the Vikings did, although

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Speaker 1: when you see that game as the broadcast, it seems

495
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: just the reverse of that the timely penalties that the

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Speaker 1: Bills received because of the Vikings. The timely penalties that

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Speaker 1: the Vikings took really helped the Bills, is particularly early

498
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Speaker 1: in that game. Five of their six penalties came in

499
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Speaker 1: the first five minutes of that game, and it really

500
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: got the Bills off to a fast start. How much

501
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Speaker 1: of that conspired on top of the good play to

502
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Speaker 1: give the Bills the victory, Yeah, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any question. It compounded the problems for the

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Speaker 1: Vikings and they put themselves at times in some long

505
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Speaker 1: down and distant situations, and that gave the Bills opportunities

506
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: and they took advantage of them. So, you know, it

507
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: was probably a confluence of events there that catered to

508
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Speaker 1: the Bills being able to jump up on the scoreboard

509
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Speaker 1: so quickly in that game. I mean, you blinked and

510
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: it was seventeen to nothing. But you got to give

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Speaker 1: the Bills credit. They were presented with the opportunities, they

512
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Speaker 1: took full advantage of them. So if they're gonna be

513
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Speaker 1: given those and they can take advantage, they're gonna win

514
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Speaker 1: a lot of football games that way. I don't expect

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Speaker 1: teams to be that mistake marred against the Bills through

516
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Speaker 1: the course of the season. There are going to be

517
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Speaker 1: teams that play a lot better. You know, the Packers

518
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: are not coming off a very good performance last week

519
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Speaker 1: at Washington. They come home get a little home cooking.

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Speaker 1: I do expect them to perform more consistently than they

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Speaker 1: did last week. They know what their weaknesses are, they

522
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Speaker 1: know the teams are going to be looking to expose

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Speaker 1: some of those same week. So you got to imagine

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be spending extra time on those things up

525
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Speaker 1: in green Bay through the course of the practice week

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Speaker 1: so they're not victimized again. So now it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a combat on the Bills coaches and players to find

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Speaker 1: different ways to attack maybe some of the weaknesses that

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Speaker 1: Green Bay has and hope you can capitalize on those

530
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Speaker 1: in grandiose fashion, which was the case last week against Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I could say, I'm one more question for you, and

532
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: it deals with the tight end group. If Clay can't

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Speaker 1: go and we see him in the background there standing

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. You mentioned he limited yesterday. Does not

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Speaker 1: look like he's going to practice today if he can't go.

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Speaker 1: You know, they had Logan Thomas an active yet last week.

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Speaker 1: But you're talking about carry, Lee Croom and Logan Thomas,

538
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Speaker 1: those three, I mean, I don't know. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't like them. That might be the way they're

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Speaker 1: forced to go, but I don't see a major contributor

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Speaker 1: among that group. What do you think, Yeah, well, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to be a committee efort. Yeah, I don't

543
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Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. Croom is obviously the

544
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Speaker 1: athletic option that you would have in the past game,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then beyond that, you're looking for carry

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Speaker 1: Lead to block for, and Logan Thomas to kind of

547
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Speaker 1: fill a multitude of roles, not the least of which

548
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: is going to have to be filled on special teams too.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be a committee effort. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: easiest way to put it. Chris, thank you, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta guys, Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: dot Com. On the sidelines at practice, which moves into

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a next period. They didn't get a

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Speaker 1: chance to ask that question the right way. But that's

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Speaker 1: a loss. I mean, Charles Clay is sort of an

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Speaker 1: all around if he doesn't play and he looks like

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00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: he's not practicing today, he's sort of the all around

558
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Speaker 1: tight end that they have and a pretty good contributor

559
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Speaker 1: and has put together a couple of good years here.

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Speaker 1: And to go with Carrie Lee and Jason Crum and

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Speaker 1: maybe Logan Thomas, that's that's a drop off, I think,

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Speaker 1: certainly in experience, let alone talents, and Chris Brown alluded

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Speaker 1: to it that you know, Logan Thomas is a kind

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Speaker 1: of a is a finesse kind of tight end, right Um,

565
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Speaker 1: Kary Lee is a guy who's a thumper. He can

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Speaker 1: go in and block, and of course Krum is a

567
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Speaker 1: kind of a past receiver. And they all have their

568
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Speaker 1: specialties the thing they bring to the table in their

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Speaker 1: toolbox that they're really good at. Clay is front than

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Speaker 1: that he can block in down inside on the run

571
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: game and he can get out on pass route. So

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00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: he can do it all. And when you have guys

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00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: that are specialists that do certain things well and other

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Speaker 1: things not so well, you become predictable, and that's one thing.

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Speaker 1: With a rookie quarterback and all the things that the

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00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: Bills are dealing with in their development, that's one thing

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Speaker 1: they can't be as predictable. All right, So we will

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Speaker 1: follow up with Chris and Nan. We'll look at the

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Speaker 1: injured report after practice. Hey, we got a good show

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Speaker 1: coming up here today the next couple of hours. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I here until three o'clock this afternoon, coming up

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock. Got another Hall of Famer. By my count,

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Speaker 1: this is what the Hall of Famer number three in

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Speaker 1: the last week, right Thurman? Thurman, and our guest today, No, no,

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Speaker 1: the fourth appearance by a Hall of famer. Who do

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Speaker 1: we have? Last Thursday was a Hall of Famer I

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Speaker 1: can't remember, but John Randall. That's right, that's right, Randall.

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Speaker 1: So today our Hall of Fame guest is Dan Fouts.

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Speaker 1: He's from the NFL out CBS calling the game with

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00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: Ian Eagle the on television, the Bills Packers game coming

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Speaker 1: up at two o'clock. Deam blend Dino, former NFL Director

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Speaker 1: of Officiating, now working with the networks, trying to explain

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Speaker 1: what's going on with as so all that coming up

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Speaker 1: on the show today. I want to get you involved

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Speaker 1: in our discussion point today. Well, let's do that when

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Speaker 1: we come back. We got time for that. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight o three oh five. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: guess what we're gonna talk about and get a take

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Speaker 1: ready and dial it up right now? Eight fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: Just getting started. One Bill's Live presented by Collada Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker at

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Speaker 1: our One Bills Drive studio next to New Air of Field,

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Speaker 1: the One Buffalo Studio. We're underway until three o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: We just heard from Chris Brown in practice where Charles

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00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Clay looks like he's on the sidelines limited. Yesterday's shoulder

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00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: and hip injury was the official report yesterday. We'll get

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Speaker 1: a post practice report on what he did today. Does

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Speaker 1: not look like he's gonna do much. McCoy looked like

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00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: he's right where it was yesterday. The non contactors. Yeah everything.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though every day helps, it really

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Speaker 1: does shitty. Yeah, I remember, I remember how he had ribs.

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Speaker 1: We had every I mean everything in my body was

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00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: injured at one point or another. But every day you

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00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: go and it doesn't have you don't have a setback.

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Speaker 1: He just feels so much better, and especially at the

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Speaker 1: end of it. The problem is one false move, like

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Speaker 1: if he gets bumped in practice or the ball gets

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00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: jammed into his ribs the wrong way or whatever, it

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Speaker 1: sets you back a week, you know, so you're just

622
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: not ready to go full speed and can't take the

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Speaker 1: punishment that the that the position demands. And until you

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00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: feel like you're one hundred percent, it's always a risky.

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Speaker 1: It's always a risk, which still you do feel better.

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Speaker 1: Kind of weird that Sean mcdermot's description of his injury

627
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Speaker 1: last week when he said he had ripped rib cartilage.

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Speaker 1: I've heard of torn cartilage and it said the same thing,

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Speaker 1: I guess. So there's gotta be a reason why Sean

630
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Speaker 1: said ripped instead of torn, right, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't It is probably the way it was described

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00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: to him by a doctor. But yeah, it's different for

633
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Speaker 1: ribs because your rib isn't a isn't a joint. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't move, you know, so you can kind of. And

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Speaker 1: the cartilage is not the bone right right, It's so

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Speaker 1: it's different than your knee where your cartilage actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: makes it so it can work. Your ribs don't really work,

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00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: they just protect, you know. So it's it's a different

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Speaker 1: kind of injury that neither Steve nor I. But we

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Speaker 1: do play one on the radio. You sound like, yeah,

641
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Speaker 1: let me let me diagnose Lshan McCoy. After having never

642
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Speaker 1: been in the same room where they about TMJA, why

643
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Speaker 1: don't we do with medical talk show call up and

644
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Speaker 1: ask us for a diagnosis. We don't know what do

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Speaker 1: we know? We're repeating when they tell us yeah, and

646
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Speaker 1: we could conjecture and stuff. But he's he's starting to pry.

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Speaker 1: He said, yesterday at least he could sprint yesterday. Yeah,

648
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: he said, he's playing. Yeah, well there you go. Look

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Speaker 1: the bills going to green Bay the last day looked

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Speaker 1: and I don't spend spend a whole lot of time. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the weather is going to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit interesting in green Bay. After doing showers on Sunday,

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00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: considerable cloudy in this Sunday in green Bay, occasional rain

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Speaker 1: showers in the afternoon. The high the high is only

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Speaker 1: going to be around fifty five wins out of the

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Speaker 1: east northeast, ten miles per hour, fifty percent chance of rain,

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Speaker 1: cloudy and maybe rainy in the afternoon in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Does that favor anybody? No? Does it? Bills run the

659
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Speaker 1: ball better? Maybe? I don't know. As a sideline reporter,

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Speaker 1: I'm I have invested interest in how it goes, but

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00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't count what's not even I haven't even checked.

662
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: I can all check that for you, just I don't

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Speaker 1: really care about I would you don't care. Steve's doing

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Speaker 1: the Foxborough game this week, Miami and the Patriots, a

665
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Speaker 1: pretty good game. Big game, right, it's a big it

666
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Speaker 1: isn't well, I don't know if it's Nashville. We're going

667
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Speaker 1: to a fifty one percent of the country, our broadcast

668
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Speaker 1: national almost Miami. Miami had at New England. New England

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Speaker 1: is the big you know, the big train Dolphins, buddy,

670
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Speaker 1: that's right, And that's why they got bumped up because

671
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Speaker 1: of the Dolphins being good. That's Steve's game. We'll talk

672
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: more about that is the on that so much today

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Speaker 1: tomorrow especially. Don't do me. You don't have to do

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Speaker 1: that for me. Well, I think it's a game the

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Speaker 1: folks Ataly's two divisional arrivals for the Bills. Folks are

676
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Speaker 1: interested in that game, all right. We are counting down

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Speaker 1: until game time Sunday, one o'clock Sunday, the Bills and

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. And look, the Bills are underdogs

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Speaker 1: again this week, not to the extent they were a

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Speaker 1: week ago. But I believe the last time I looked,

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Speaker 1: there were ten ten and a half point underdogs, right,

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00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: Packers heavily favored to win. And yet, and yet there's

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Speaker 1: a sense I get around here that people think, well,

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Speaker 1: the Bills can win this game. I think they can win. Also,

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Speaker 1: I don't bet so, I don't know if I would

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Speaker 1: bet on it, but they certainly can win this game.

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Speaker 1: We want to know from you, if you're thinking that way,

688
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Speaker 1: what do you view as Buffalo's advantage? This is our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. What's the biggest advantage for the Bills Sunday

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Speaker 1: over the Packers going into Sunday's game? What edge do

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Speaker 1: they have over the Green Bay Packers. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can list the Packers, you know, Aaron Rodgers. They're playing

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Speaker 1: at home. They haven't had a great start to the season.

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Speaker 1: They lost on the road last week. What's the biggest

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Speaker 1: advantage the Bills have even though they're ten point underdogs.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call. Lines are open eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty or from outside the seven one six

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Speaker 1: area code. It's a toll free call one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty, or tweeting in voting

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll or sent us in a comment on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: The biggest advantage for the Bills over the Packers if

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Speaker 1: they have one, maybe you think they don't. What's the

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Speaker 1: biggest advantage the Bills may have with the Packers Sunday

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Speaker 1: in green Bay. On the Twitter poll right now, more

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Speaker 1: than half of you fifty three percent say it's the

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Speaker 1: Bill's defensive line against the green Bay's offensive line. Yea.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one percent of you say Tredavious White has the

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Speaker 1: edge over Davante Adams. Nineteen percent of you say Alan

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen against the green Bay secondary seven percent say

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Speaker 1: something else you're saying from the Twitter From the Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll is from Darryl f twenty nine. It's the Bills

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Speaker 1: D line versus the Packers O line, provided that it's

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Speaker 1: the same D line we saw versus the Vikings Jerry

714
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Hughes was a beast. But there's still but there was

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Speaker 1: solid production everywhere up front. I really like what I

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Speaker 1: saw from Trent Murphy too. We need a repeat of that.

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00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: We might they might be better than they were at

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Speaker 1: least personnel. Wives if they get Shack Lawson back on

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Speaker 1: the field right, they could. And Tim Murphy's healthy with

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Speaker 1: his ankle. Yeah, absolutely, And because Jerry Hughes is having

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Speaker 1: a great year, everybody, I mean you Bill's fans should

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00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: know this, and if you haven't noticed, he is. He

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Speaker 1: is really really turned into a great edge rusher. And

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Speaker 1: I think he's playing I think he might be in

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Speaker 1: the prime of his career. I mean, this guy is

726
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: really playing well. Now he's up against the green Bay

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Speaker 1: left tackle, who is Baktari, who is an elite left tackle.

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Speaker 1: As you might imagine that Green Bay Packers with Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers would have a great left tackle, and they do.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be up to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the group and Jerry Hughes as well, to repeat their performance.

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Speaker 1: They were outstanding last week all the way across the board.

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo our friend or Lorenzo Alexander, who comes in and

734
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Speaker 1: is always a guest on our show on Fridays. He

735
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Speaker 1: was fantastic and he got put in at a defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle spot on third and long to rush the passer,

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Speaker 1: and it was a difference maker. And I think that

738
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Speaker 1: there's a lot to be happy about at that d line.

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Speaker 1: The one concern I have is the health of Shack

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Speaker 1: Lawson and the health of Trent Murphy going into this game.

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Speaker 1: Also on the tweet sheet from brand Am the biggest

742
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Speaker 1: advantage the Bills might have over the Packers, brand Em says,

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Speaker 1: the biggest advantage is the Buffalo running game against the

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: Packers defense should be able to wear them down. Okay,

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00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: you can say that, and you can hope that there

746
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: is very little evidence so far through three games that

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00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: the Bills running game is up to snuff, and that's

748
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Speaker 1: mostly because they felt so far behind against the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens a week before that. With the people

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Speaker 1: they have, in particular Lashawn McCoy, you would hope that

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00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: they're better than they played, but they haven't played well.

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00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: And you've got a Green Bay defense that has been

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Speaker 1: susceptible to the run. They're giving up like one under

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00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: twenty four yards per game on the ground, but the

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00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: Bills rushing game has not yet come around. I mean,

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00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: Chris Brown quoted the McCoy earlier on the show about

757
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: how even shitty's saying yesterday, Hey, we gotta get moving,

758
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: we gotta get the running game moving. They do, this

759
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: would be the week to do it. But to say

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00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: with certainty that that's Buffalo's advantage right now, I don't know.

761
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. The run game hasn't been there,

762
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: and it's because their offensive line has not been playing well.

763
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: This last week they played better, but it was a

764
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Speaker 1: game where they, you know, they had the lead. They

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Speaker 1: ran the bow thirty eight times the last week as

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Speaker 1: a as a luxury with a twenty seven point lead

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Speaker 1: for most of the game. So yeah, the running game

768
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Speaker 1: was a little better last week, but only because they

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Speaker 1: had the luxury to do it with a huge lead.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Daniels on the tweet, she says, I think Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: Alexander's ability to apply pressure up the middle, forcing Rodgers

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Speaker 1: to have to move on a bad knee, forcing him

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Speaker 1: into uncomfortable throws. I can see that pressure forcing a

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Speaker 1: couple of picks and flipping field position for our offense.

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Speaker 1: Bills win in an upset Sunday one of the things

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00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: you might want to know and Tiffany Daniels who tweeted

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Speaker 1: that may or may not know. Aaron Rodgers is getting better.

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Speaker 1: He's not out of He was out of practice yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Now he's back into practice and he's limited. Last week

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Speaker 1: he didn't practice at all until Saturday, which was a walkthrough.

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00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: This week, he's practicing on Thursday in a limited basis.

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00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: He's getting better. So don't anticipate Aaron Rodgers being a

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Speaker 1: cripple back there not being able to do his job,

784
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Speaker 1: because he's going to I think I mentioned you watching,

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00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: so I watched the Green Bay Minnesota game last week

786
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: and then watched the Green Bay Washington game the other day,

787
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: and that from game two to Game three, you could

788
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: see improvement in Rogers mobility. In Game two, the game

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00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: after he injured his knee, he would not put pressure

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00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: on his left leg. He would not put pressure on

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Speaker 1: his left he wouldn't plant there to get ready to

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Speaker 1: throw it. Last week last Sunday against Washington, he would.

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Speaker 1: You can see, you can see him get better. So

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Speaker 1: you would think if he's and he is limited participant

795
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: in practice today that he's getting better even as we speak.

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Speaker 1: Here's a call on this issue. What's the Bill's biggest advantage?

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Speaker 1: Jim and Tonawanda on the line with the side. Jim,

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00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: go ahead, and John, I think that the Packers still

799
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: may take us pretty lately. I'm not even certain I

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: take us, that's seriously at this point. They got beat

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00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: up bad the first two games. Yeah, and they made

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Speaker 1: the party Nken Center Minnesota the game of Fluke, So

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00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: he really has to repeat the effort the good game

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00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: because the formula for us to win. So I think

805
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: we should try to take up on them again. And

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00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: the other Bills are a ten point underdog. I mean,

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00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: they're still widely considered a huge underdog in this game.

808
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: Not as huge as they were in Minnesota, but no

809
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: question going into Green Bay against a healthier Aaron Rodgers,

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00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: the Bills have to prove a lot to a lot

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00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: of people before they're going to be favored in any

812
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: game because of the way their season started. And Jim,

813
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, I don't know. It's easy to

814
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: say it was a great win on last Sunday and

815
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: they played well and a lot of things went right.

816
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of Bills fans and us included.

817
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'd love to see a little bit more

818
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: before I'm going to jump on and say, you know what,

819
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: this is a really solid football team in all accounts,

820
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: and it's gonna do that like they They're gonna play

821
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: like they played last week every week, because one good

822
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: performance really doesn't make a season. Steve, you you know

823
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: it was a while ago, but you've been in NFL

824
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: locker room, Bills locker room when the Bills were heavy favorites.

825
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure over many teams. Can you actually sense so

826
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: your look and what you get you you know you

827
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: see as a player, you get you know me or

828
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: may not know what the point spread is. You may

829
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: or may not know what a team's reputation is, who

830
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: they played, who they've beaten, who they've lost to. But

831
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Speaker 1: when you sit down in the meeting room and turn

832
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Speaker 1: on the tape or in your era of the film,

833
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: do you actually sit there and say, well, these guys

834
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: aren't that good? We can handle them? I mean, does

835
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Speaker 1: that actually become a topic of discussion? It can, It

836
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: didn't a lot for us. It comes down to really

837
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Speaker 1: good leadership. You know, head coaches, you got to sit

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00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: down and say, listen, guys, these are this A, B

839
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: and C. Don't think don't believe that you're seeing it

840
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, but you see it on the field,

841
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: and it's like everything, it's never as good as you

842
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: see it or as never as bad as you see

843
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: you see. You see that other team for who they are,

844
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: they're very they're close to being good, they're close to

845
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: have wonning that game. And and you got to know

846
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: that if they would have won that game, everything's changes

847
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: for them the way it changed for the Buffalo Bills

848
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: this week. It comes down to not taking a team

849
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: for granted. Comes down to the leadership in your locker room.

850
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: You're head coaches. You got to see down, convince you,

851
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: and give you illustrations and get you of a mindset

852
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: that you're not going to do that. You're not going

853
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: to be that kind of team that takes that lays

854
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: down for another team, or rolls their helmet out there

855
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: and wins. Does it work like? Because I've never been

856
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: in that position, but sometimes I'll watch video of a

857
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: Bill's opponent or a Bills sometimes and say, hey, if

858
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: they do this, that's a problem for us, right, you

859
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: ever do that in the meeting room. Well, that's all

860
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: you do. If they're able to do this, then we

861
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: got a problem with that's all you do. Plus you

862
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: know as well what other teams have done against you

863
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: and they're successful doing, and whether it's one play or

864
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: two player or a type of play, or if they

865
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: have a good player at a certain position that gives

866
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: you problems in your matchups. You're very aware of that.

867
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: It's self scouting. You know where your weaknesses are you

868
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: and you try and get a sense and this is

869
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: the key thing. You try and get a sense of

870
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: how other teams perceive you in an honest way. And

871
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: once you do that, you get an idea of where

872
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: you really need to focus your attention on your game

873
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: planning and your matchup problems on the defensive side and

874
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: the offensive side. We talk more about this and the

875
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Bill's advantages. If there are any against the Green Bay

876
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: Packers this week, give us a call. We got phone

877
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: lines open eight three fifty toll free one eight eight

878
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. We got Dan Fouts

879
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour, but more

880
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: time to talk with you before they had come on back.

881
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health from One Bills

882
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. One Bills. Iive

883
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: it's the name of the show. It comes here from

884
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive Time Murphy and Steve Pastor coming to

885
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: you from Hey, was your you did? Is something that

886
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: stadium last night? Right? What'd you do with that? Did?

887
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: I spoke to a group whe one of the corporate

888
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: partners for the Bills. It was last night, Yeah, yes,

889
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: night afternoon about four o'clock. We'll get together for some Uh.

890
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: It's a kind of a it's a big corporation turner construction.

891
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow. And I spoke to a group of their

892
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: people here at the stadium. And I didn't know this.

893
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was speaking. I thought I was

894
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: speaking to somebody else. I didn't know, and I turned

895
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: it turned construction. I was like talking to them. They're

896
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: great people, and I didn't They didn't know this. While

897
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: you were speaking, You didn't know who they were? No, No,

898
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: I know. Once I got there, of course I knew,

899
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: and we were I was chitchat before it started. It

900
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: was a small gathering of forty people, and I had

901
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: to tell them that my daughter in law, one of

902
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: my son's wives works for Turner Construction, another and another

903
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: works in Connecticut, and so I was like, hey, small world, Um,

904
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: did you put in any plugs for the show? Were

905
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: they aware? They know we do? I did? I did.

906
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: And the group of them had come over from Syracuse

907
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: and Just and I could arrive. So so you would

908
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: listen to one Bill's Live the whole way over right,

909
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: and they were like, uh, yeah, exactly, much like my

910
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: family does. What when were you on again today? What

911
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: did you do today? Hey, we're talking about how do

912
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: you feel your days? Talking about the Bills? Do they

913
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: have advantages over the Packers? Ten point under dogs? So

914
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: they're some parts of this game that would be Buffalo's advantage.

915
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Eighth three fifty to

916
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

917
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Here's a call from Kevin and Hamburg. Hello, been welcome here. Hi,

918
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: how you doing okay? I think the biggest advantage is

919
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers is the gimbergh and he's walking around

920
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: like a gimbo. Man. Well it's not really, though, Kevin.

921
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Now he's getting better. Kevin's you can see it in

922
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: the way he plays. And now this week, he's practicing,

923
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: he's in a limited way today. So I want to

924
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: say one more thing though, go ahead. I don't know

925
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: if they should, really Mashan's still hurt, take a chance

926
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: on him with the team we hardly ever play, and

927
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: we got some really extra tough games coming up with

928
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: of course New England being before Halloween. Um, I don't

929
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: know if he's hands and he's still wounded, and we

930
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: have Tennessee Houston, the calls, and of course the dreaded Patriots,

931
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: even though it looks like mere morals, right that Kevin

932
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: has a good point. And I here's the thing. You're right,

933
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys. Everybody gets hurt during the

934
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: NFL season. The chances of you getting hurt as an

935
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: NFL player one hundred percent. You're always going to get hurt.

936
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: The the thing comes down to this, and it's a balance.

937
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: You gotta trust the player when he says he can go,

938
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: and it's up to other It's up to the coaches

939
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: and the doctors and the medical staff to do what

940
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: they can do to evaluate him, look at his symptoms,

941
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: and if it's an obvious no go, even if the

942
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: guy wants to play, you can hold him out. But

943
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: if he's if it's close and your symptoms are at

944
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: a certain level and he wants to play, then you

945
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: have to make the call about, Okay, do we let

946
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: him play or not we do we use this roster

947
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: spot on game day on a guy who may only

948
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: go four plays before he gets dinged and have to

949
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: come out, and then we're stuck with only forty four

950
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: players on our roster rather than forty five, and we

951
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: lose the production we could have had from his backup

952
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: or the next guy on the roster. So it's a

953
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: it's a delicate balance. And and I'm sure that this

954
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: coaching staff and this medical staff and Lashawn McCoy are

955
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: all well versed in Leshaun's a veteran. He knows and

956
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: he did it last week. He is eighty percent. I'm

957
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: not eighty percent. I'm not good enough and uh so, yeah,

958
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: that balance has got to be struck. Now, as far

959
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: as you know Aaron Rodgers, don't count on Aaron Rodgers

960
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: being the reason you win against the Green Bay Packers

961
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: because he's not one hundred Percentum, he is gonna play,

962
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: and he's gonna play better probably and feel better than

963
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: he did he's gonna feel better anyway than he did

964
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: last week. Maybe he won't play better, but you can't

965
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: count on that played pretty well last week. Two, Well,

966
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: he's good a break care when we come back. Hall

967
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback Dan Fouts gonna call the game on

968
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: CBS the NFL on CBS with I an Eagle. Dan

969
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: Fouts joins us on the Subway Fresh Chick Hotline when

970
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: we return, Steve and I backed with more. One goes

971
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: Live from One Goes Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radiolo

972
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Sports Day Update from One Bills Drive.

973
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: The Bills on the practice field again. They may get

974
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy back at the lineup when they hit the

975
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: road this Sunday. McCoy said yesterday he will play after

976
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: missing last Sunday's game in Minnesota with the ribbon injury,

977
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: limited and practice yesterday. He's on the field right now.

978
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: He still has an on contact jersey on along with

979
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: some other players. Tenant Charles Clay looks to be sidelined today.

980
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: He was limited yesterday with shoulder and hip injuries. We'll

981
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: get the post practice report coming up. Defensive end Shack

982
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: Lawson maybe nearing in return. He's missed the last two

983
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. Bills and Green Bay to play

984
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: the Packers. Buffaloes first visit the Lambeau in eight years.

985
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: Sunday one o'clock got the game on our flagship radio

986
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: station in Buffalo, WGR Sports Radio five fifty and all

987
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: over the twenty station Bills Radio network in Green Bay.

988
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Packers coach Mike McCarthy says Aaron Rodgers will be a

989
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: limited participant in their practice today. Rodgers is only practice

990
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: with his healthy teammates on Saturdays over the last two

991
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: weeks with his niece brains, so the fact he's involved

992
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: in a Thursday team session, even on the limited basis,

993
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: seems to indicate that he's getting better and should be

994
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: ready to go against the Bills on Sunday. Carolina Panthers

995
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: have signed Bowl free agent saved Eric Reid, who was

996
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: not resigned by the San Francisco forty nine Ers in

997
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: the off season amidst the controversy about his grievance with

998
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. Two years ago, Reid was the first player

999
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: to join former forty nine Ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and

1000
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: kneeling during the national anthem to protest racial inequality and

1001
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: police brutality. The Panthers sign him today. He will replace

1002
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: veteran the North Searcy, who last week went on ir

1003
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: after suffering a second concussion in a month. Thursday Night

1004
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: football tonight the Rams at home against Minnesota. Rams cornerback

1005
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is questionable with a caffe injury, unlikely to play.

1006
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: The Rams then without both starting quarterbacks, a keep to

1007
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: lead is having ankle surgery today. They both went down

1008
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: on Sundays win over the Chargers. On the Viking side,

1009
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: they're optimistic that running back Dalvin Cook will play tonight.

1010
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: Vikings and Rams pretty good. Thursday Night game eight twenty

1011
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: tonight in Los Angeles and the Buffalo Sabers now are

1012
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: off for their final preseason game coming up tomorrow night

1013
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: in Oshawa. They'll play tomorrow night against the Islanders at

1014
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: seven o'clock. And that is the update from One Bill's Drive. Yeah,

1015
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I am so glad to have our next guest on

1016
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: NFL on CBS color Analysts. Former NFL quarterback for fifteen seasons,

1017
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: He's inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in

1018
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. He's also on Westwood One Radio, Dan Fouts,

1019
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: formerly the San Diego Chargers. Oh my gosh, it still

1020
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: takes me time to get it out, Dan, Thanks for

1021
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: coming on with us. Steve Tasker and John Murphy. How

1022
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: are you today? Real good? Good to be with you, guys,

1023
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: Good to be with you. How difficult was it last

1024
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: week to do the Chargers at LA game? Knowing that's

1025
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: you still got to struggle with that, do you not

1026
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: the LA Chargers? Well, you know, it was difficult because

1027
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: both of them were LA. You know, they've got the

1028
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Rams and the Chargers, So I just dropped the LA

1029
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: part of it because that's a waste of time now

1030
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: and with their nicknames, it's a lot easier that way. Well,

1031
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: you're headed into a game this week where you've got

1032
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: both ends of the quarterback spectrum. Aaron Rodgers, who's and

1033
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: accepted maybe best in the game, maybe in the conversation

1034
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: for best ever, and a guy making his second start ever.

1035
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about what you see midweek before

1036
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: this game. Well, you know, the big thing with Rogers

1037
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: is how healthy will he be? And you know, facing

1038
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: that pass rush of the Bills, that's got to be

1039
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: a major concern for the Packers, especially if Brian Blaga

1040
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: can't go. He was forced out of the game last

1041
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: week against Washington with a bad back. He's the right tackle.

1042
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: So Rogers mobility is going to be a big question mark.

1043
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: There's some word out of Green Bay today that he

1044
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: may practice today, which would be a good sign for

1045
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: the Packers. And talk about mobility, I think we've seen

1046
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: all we need to see from Josh Allen as far

1047
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: as his mobility is concerned, don't you think, Yeah, it's

1048
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I think it's more than his teammates want

1049
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: to see as well and his coaching staff. He was

1050
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that was dangerous. The hurdle. It's all well

1051
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: and good when it turns out, but that's a kid

1052
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: that's twenty one years old, don't you think, Yeah, two

1053
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: bad things can happen when you do that right, you know.

1054
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Then then you got to dive for the hylon, which

1055
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: was a spectacular And that's another play where you know

1056
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: you're extending your right arm to hit that pylon and

1057
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: you know bad things can happen there. But you know,

1058
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: he is young. He's twenty two years old. He's a

1059
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: rookie trying to make an impression. He did that. He showed,

1060
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, on both those plays that he's willing to

1061
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: sell out, you know, to get the first down and

1062
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: then obviously to get the touchdown. Jean, it's one of

1063
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: the best things I like about Josh Allen, just the

1064
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: competitive fire that he demonstrates with those two plays and

1065
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: really a lot of the plays he's made so far.

1066
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: That that's worth something, isn't it? Absolutely? And it's it's

1067
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: called leadership. It's leadership by example, showing your teammates that

1068
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: you're willing to do whatever it takes to get the

1069
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: job done. And he's got that in him. You know,

1070
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: he's he's a kid that with big, you know, good

1071
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: size and everything, a good strong arm and the body

1072
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: to take some punishment. So I think Bills fans can

1073
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: get used to seeing some of that from Josh Allen. Well,

1074
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: for every young quarterback, there's an offensive coordinator that's in

1075
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback business. Brian day Ball got some kudos

1076
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo for the way he handled Josh Allen's

1077
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: last start. What did you see, Well, they won the game,

1078
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: and they took advantage of the turnovers obviously, and that's

1079
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: another way Steve, as you well know, to build great

1080
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: team chemistry is if your defense gets you turnover, what

1081
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: are you going to do with it on offense? Well,

1082
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: you don't want to settle for three points. You want

1083
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: to get it all the way into the end zone.

1084
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the Bills did in that shocking

1085
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: win over the Minnesota Gamefounce is our guest Hall of

1086
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. You'll call the game with Ian Eagles Sunday,

1087
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Green Bay Packers up at lambeau Field.

1088
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: And then what did you think about the start of

1089
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: the Bill season and the way they've turned it around

1090
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: in the last game and a half. It's it's pretty

1091
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: dramatic a turnaround, and all of us here are wondering

1092
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: which one is the Buffalo Bills. Now, well that is

1093
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: a legitimate question. But remember the Bills made the playoffs

1094
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: last year. They've got a lot of young talent. And

1095
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: if you start with that pass rush and the way

1096
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: that you know Jerry Hughes is getting after the quarterback,

1097
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: and the leadership that Alexander gives you in helping the

1098
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: rookie Edmonds in the middle, and Kyle Williams the way

1099
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: he plays all out all the time, you know this

1100
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: Bill's defense will give opportunities to Josh Allen and the

1101
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Bills offense, and so I think they're in good shape,

1102
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: especially going into Green Bay. You know, the tough environment

1103
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: last week in Minnesota, but now you go to Lambeau

1104
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: and the Packers, who were you beaten by the Redskins

1105
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: on the road, and they've got a lot of questions

1106
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: themselves and a lot of injury problems that have to solve. Well,

1107
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: speaking of injury problems, what are your thoughts on Aaron Rodgers?

1108
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: And it seems he's limited in practice today. So we

1109
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: went from not practicing at all last week to limit

1110
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: it on Thursday. What was your experience coming back from

1111
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: injuries that maybe kept you out of practice or to

1112
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: you in some way, Well, the biggest thing is Sunday, okay,

1113
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: And for a guy in his fourteenth year, you know,

1114
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: obviously it's good to get the reps in practice, but

1115
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: it's more important to be able to get the reps

1116
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: during the game. And I think that's that's what they're

1117
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: doing with Rodgers, and it's smart, especially with the knee,

1118
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: and it's the left knee, so that's your you know,

1119
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: your plant as you're coming through. Although Rogers is so

1120
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: unique in the way he can throw the ball. He

1121
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: doesn't really have to be balanced to throw. His arm

1122
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: is so strong, the flick of the wrist, the ball

1123
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: just flies out of his hands. He's a tremendous dart thrower.

1124
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes it appears that both his feet are off the

1125
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: ground when he's throwing the ball. I just marvel at

1126
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: his abilities. You know, here in Buffalo Dan we get

1127
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: a look at Tom Brady twice a year. We're real

1128
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: familiar with him, and you know, grudgingly admit how great

1129
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: he is. We don't see Aaron Rodgers quite as much.

1130
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: But Rogers he could be his equal right in terms

1131
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: of a passer, in terms of production as a passer.

1132
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: What do you think. Well, you know the other thing

1133
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: about Rogers, even with that bad knee, if you saw

1134
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: what he did in the game against Washington, as he

1135
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: ran the ball a couple of times on scrambles, and

1136
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, that's something obviously he has when healthy over Brady,

1137
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: because Brady is not much of a runner at this

1138
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: stage of his career. So you know, Rogers is a

1139
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: treat to watch, and don't blink because you're gonna see

1140
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: something special. Does Rogers have enough of a supporting cast

1141
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: to carry them far this year? I'm talking about the

1142
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: other You know, they don't have much of a running

1143
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: game so far. They've got weapons in the passing game,

1144
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know, does he have enough around him

1145
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: you think to excel. Well, that's gonna be something that

1146
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: we'll find out as the season goes along. You know,

1147
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: Davante Adams outstanding receiver. Randall Cobb has been there for

1148
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: eight years with Rogers, So the wide receivers are in

1149
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: good shape. You know, Jimmy Graham is still a guy

1150
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: that has got, you know, the ability to wreck a defense.

1151
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: But look out for number thirty three. Aaron Jones, a

1152
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: second year player out of UTEP. He's a all back

1153
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: at five to nine, but he's two hundred and eight

1154
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: pounds and he gives the Packers a little bit of

1155
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: juice as a running back. And when you you know,

1156
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: Time Montgomery was a big surprise last year. And Jamal

1157
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: Williams is the other running back. So it's that committee,

1158
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: the running back situation for the Packers. But Aaron Jones

1159
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: is somebody to keep your eye on. Number thirty three.

1160
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: After three games, I know it's a small sample size,

1161
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: but what's the recipe for beating the Green Bay Packers

1162
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: and this edition of the Packers. Well, defensively, the Packers

1163
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: in the secondary have had some problems, and that's exactly

1164
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: what Alex Smith did to them last week. I mean,

1165
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: he just went right after that secondary. And the other

1166
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: problem is, you know, you gotta I don't know how

1167
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: you feel about Clay Matthews, but he's a great pass

1168
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: rusher who has been called for roughing the passer in

1169
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: every game so far, and he doesn't think that he

1170
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: has been guilty of that, but that's the way the

1171
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: rule is, and that's the way the officials are interpreting

1172
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: that rule, and so that has an effect on not

1173
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: only Matthews but the entire defense wanting to think about

1174
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: how much pressure they're going to try to put on

1175
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen on the line. With Dan Fout's NFL on

1176
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: CBS Color Analysts, the Hall of Fame Quarterback, I'm wondering, Dan,

1177
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: what you think about the entire class of rookie quarterbacks

1178
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: so far, first rounders anyway, they're all playing, obviously in

1179
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: Baltimore on a much more limited basis, but we could

1180
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: be looking at kind of a special class of all

1181
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: of these guys turned out to be pretty good. You agree, yes,

1182
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: but we've only seen three games, okay, So I think

1183
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: we got to give these kids a little more time

1184
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: before we anoint one as the next savior or anoint

1185
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: one as a bust. You know. So I keep looking

1186
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: back though at Patrick Mahomes and how he sat on

1187
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: the bench last year in his rookie year, learning behind

1188
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: Alex Smith and learning Andy Reid's offense really benefited him

1189
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: a great deal. And these kids, though, the class you're

1190
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: talking about, they've been thrust into the lineup and into

1191
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: the into the game at an early stage. And at

1192
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: times that's good and at other times, you know, the

1193
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: learning curve is very steep. How deep into your career

1194
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: did you feel comfortable at quarterback? And well, how did

1195
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: your career start? Did you have to say? And you know,

1196
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: walk us through the process that you went through, because

1197
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: you obviously had a Hall of Fame career and did

1198
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: things at the time in your quarterback career and nobody

1199
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: had done before. Walk us through the beginning of your career. Well,

1200
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: walking is a good way to describe it. And if

1201
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: I could remember back that far I could give you

1202
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: a walk through, but you know, the starting quarterback in

1203
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: San Diego my rookie year was Johnny Unitis. Unitas went

1204
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: down with a shoulder injury after the third game, and

1205
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: they threw my butt in there against the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1206
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: of all people. And so I started six of the

1207
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: fourteen games in nineteen seventy three. But it wasn't until

1208
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: Don Koreelle got to San Diego that my career took off.

1209
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: The Eric Correal offense and the talent that I had

1210
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: in Winslow and Joyner and Chandler and John Jefferson. M

1211
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: That's really where where things started to turn around for me.

1212
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: So when you look at these four quarterbacks that are

1213
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: starting that you got Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen,

1214
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, what do you see in all of them?

1215
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: And they all had they all had question marks, and

1216
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: they all said, Hey, the optimum thing is to have

1217
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: them sit for a year. And now none of them

1218
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: get to do that. They're all getting thrown into the fire.

1219
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: Is that just the way of the world or is

1220
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: or is that okay? I mean, is that going to

1221
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: be okay for some of these guys? Well, it's a

1222
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: combination of the way the world is now, but also

1223
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: the most important thing is for each team, what do

1224
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: they need to win? And if the coaches deemed that

1225
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: these guys, these youngsters can can give them the best

1226
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: chance of winning, then they're going to get in there. Uh.

1227
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: You know, the owners want to see them, they're all

1228
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: number one fix. The fans obviously want to see them.

1229
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: And when you see a guy play like Josh Allen

1230
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: did last week and Mayfield did last week, you get

1231
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: excited about the potential. And that's really what it's all

1232
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: about at this stage of their career is potential and

1233
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: learning as much as they can and not getting down

1234
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: if things don't go well for you. That's the biggest

1235
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: problem with young quarterbacks is how do you handle the

1236
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: bad days? Because you look at these guys career in college,

1237
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: they had very few bad days, so they haven't really

1238
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: got that experience and how to handle when things go

1239
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: the opposite direction. And the line with Dan Fouts, who's

1240
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: got the call of the game on NFL on CBS

1241
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,959
Speaker 1: this Sunday, The builds are Green Bay Packers. Hey, Danny,

1242
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: want to ask you about your broadcasting career. You're a

1243
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: little bit like my partner Steve Tasker here, and that

1244
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: you have been a broadcaster longer than you were a player,

1245
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: and you played a long time fifteen years as a

1246
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: player in the NFL. But my my account, this is

1247
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: what your thirty first year broadcasting football on television? Is that? Right? Yeah,

1248
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: thanks for reminding me. I think that's admirable. I think

1249
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. I guess that's accurate. Then, well, you know,

1250
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: you just got a fool, that one guy that's right

1251
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: in the checks. You got to find somebody else the fool. No,

1252
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: but seriously, what does the appeal to you to be

1253
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: around it so long and to go thirty thirty one

1254
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: years as a broadcaster after enjoying all the success you

1255
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: had as a player. Well, you know, my dad was

1256
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: a voice of the forty nine ers when I was

1257
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: growing up for about twenty years, so I was in

1258
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: the press box at Keysar Stadium in San Francisco keeping

1259
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: stats for him when I was sixteen seventeen years old.

1260
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: So I kind of got it in my jeans. And

1261
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: I've got a great partner and a great broadcast team.

1262
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: Steve will tell you how important that is. The relationships

1263
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: that you build throughout the years. I've been Iron Eagle

1264
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: now for nine years and it's been a real treat

1265
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: every Sunday. Yeah, the Bird and the Beard we call

1266
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: you guys. You got you have been together for a

1267
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: long time and your great crew. Do you have you

1268
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: ever done? You do some money night football on radio

1269
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Speaker 1: as well, and I've worked with you as your sideline guy.

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: You were in Pittsburgh and Tampa. You were in Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay for the Pittsburgh game last week and yet another

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01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: series of roughing the quarterback calls. Where do you see

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: the evolution of that penalty going as we as we

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: sit here in twenty eighteen. Well, that's a good question.

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're hell bent on protecting the quarterbacks

1276
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: because the league wants their quarterbacks to play every Sunday

1277
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: because it's a better product for the fans and for

1278
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: the game itself. So I don't think we're going to

1279
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: see any relaxing of the roughing the quarterback penalties. What

1280
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: you are going to see is more practice time taking

1281
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: up by defenses and learning exactly the proper technique of

1282
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: not falling on top of the quarterback. I was at

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: the Rams practice last week on Friday, and that's how

1284
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: their defensive line started practice, was playing a dummy and

1285
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: spinning away and not landing on top of the dummy.

1286
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: Do you ever wish you had that kind of protection

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Speaker 1: back in the seventies and eighties when you were playing, Dan, No,

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: I was the dummy, not really, But I mean you

1289
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: survived the game, survived back the way it was before.

1290
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why there's such a concerted effort to

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Speaker 1: regulate how quarterbacks are hit. Well, it's all about money now, boys,

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01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: isn't it. And you know that. It's It's just the

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: way it is. We're just gonna have to get used

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Speaker 1: to it. Well, Dan, have a great broadcast Sunday. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you up there at Lambau. We're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for spending a few minutes with us here today.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yeah. I always good to be with

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Speaker 1: you guys. Take care. Dan Fout's Hall of Famer Hall

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01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback for the Chargers fifteen seasons in the

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01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: NFL what they say, thirty one seasons as a broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: He joined us on the Subway Fresh Day cortline, presented

1302
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: by Subway Restaurants. Probably be locally owned and operating. It's

1303
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: interesting too. I played for Charlie Joyners my wide receiver

1304
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: code later in my career. Charlie was obviously part of

1305
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: that Eric Correal offense back in the early eighties. Charlie

1306
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: played for seventeen years. Was also a Hall of Famer

1307
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: like Dan Fouts, and this, you know, it's a little

1308
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: like the team that I played for in the early nineties.

1309
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: Here their story after story after story about Dan Fouts

1310
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: and how things were when he was the quarterback, and

1311
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: how they ran things in San Diego with Eric Correale

1312
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: and all those great players, Kelen Winslow, and the heated

1313
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: arguments that would happen on and off the field because

1314
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: they were all so competitive and had ideas about how

1315
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: it was supposed to run. Charlie Wood. It was fascinating

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01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: to listen to. And I think that's one of the

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: reason Dan is a good broadcaster, because he does tell

1318
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: good stories. He does have a wealth of experience both

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01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: on the field at the highest level and then the

1320
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: broadcast booth as well, and how to communicate. It's it's

1321
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: fun working with him, and he does a great job.

1322
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: Bill's fans will like him. This weekend If they don't

1323
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: listen to the radio exactly. I meant to ask him

1324
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: about the beard situation. I think you know CBS has

1325
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: treated you unfairly about me shaving my beard. I had

1326
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: the beard't have to have the beard for like ten minutes,

1327
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: and he won't let people were into the beard and camp.

1328
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: People went crazy and camp about the beard. And now

1329
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: the regular season comes, you gotta go to work for

1330
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: CBS and the beard had to come off. There's a

1331
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: lawsuit there somewhere. Mind. I'm looking out for you. Yeah,

1332
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: Bout says a Beards. Five years ago, I had that

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01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: beard and it was black. Now it's not. Is that

1334
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: what CBS issue was Now he guess didn't have an

1335
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: issue with it, and I had an issue with it.

1336
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to

1337
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: be a sideline reporter with a gray beard. Bouts's beard

1338
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: is great. Hey, he looks great in his beard. Okay,

1339
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: I looked, Okay, Dan FOUTSA and Eagle will have the

1340
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: call of the game. Evan Washburn right, is their sideline guy.

1341
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: They have the call of the game. The Bills and

1342
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: the Packers talking about that game. The Bills are pretty

1343
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: heavy under underdogs, again down by you know, ten and

1344
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: ten and a half points. But if you see an

1345
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: advantage for the Buffalo Bills in this game, what's their

1346
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: best advantage? That's our Twitter poll. What is the biggest

1347
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: advantage for the Bills over the Packers headed into Sunday's

1348
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: game in Green Bay? On Twitter? On the poll, fifty

1349
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: three percent of you say it's a matchup between Buffalo's

1350
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: defensive line and green Bay's offensive line twenty two twenty

1351
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: one percent of you say it's tradevious white and this

1352
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: matchup with DeVante Adams amount to Adams and nineteen percent

1353
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 1: say is Josh Allen against the green Bay secondary? Six

1354
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: percent something else. In my only six hundred votes in

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01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: if you have a thought on that, give us a

1356
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: call eighth three fifty two three one eight eight eight

1357
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty If you don't think they

1358
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: have an advantage a significant advantage of a Green Bay

1359
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: I'd listened to that argument too. That's got to be

1360
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: in the other category. And six percent of the people

1361
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: do choose that, And there's got to be somebody out

1362
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: there who thinks that there's no advantage here for the

1363
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: Bills at all. Their ten point underdog their defensive line.

1364
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: The one that is running away with the pole is

1365
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: nicked up. Shack Lawson hasn't been one hundred percent for

1366
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and he's just getting back into practice.

1367
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy, who got on the field, has now got

1368
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: his ankle rolled. He's hobbled. So their depth on the

1369
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: defensive line in that pass rush that was so important

1370
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: in the win in Minnesota may dry up against a

1371
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: better offensive line in Green Bay and a better quarterback.

1372
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's a better offensive line. Not

1373
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: Nick card out, Yeah, Blog, it's a little bit banged up.

1374
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: We'll find out if that's a better offensive line. I

1375
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: don't know, that's the question. Let's go to Wayne in Buffalo. Hello, Wayne, Welcome,

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01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: Hie Steve Hi. I have two questions for you now,

1377
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: okay to replay on the one bill drive. My first

1378
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: question is on defense. Our defense is good, but I

1379
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: think they have to cover the short yard each passes

1380
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: better or this is where they're going to fall down

1381
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: against Aaron Rodgers because he completes his short yard each

1382
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: passes for a lot of first downs. Okay, go ahead.

1383
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: What's your second question? Wayne? On our offensive team? Our

1384
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: wide receivers where Alan gets a chance to show the

1385
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: ball must run the patterns better so that they can

1386
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: hang onto it. They drop too many passes and we

1387
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: lose a lot of yardiage. Yeah, did you see um?

1388
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: And we'll get a great co sell on with us tomorrow,

1389
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: great go sell from an NFL matchup on ESPN. They

1390
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: came out with the percentage of drops Bills lead the league,

1391
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: unfortunately in the highest percentage of passes dropped nine point

1392
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: four percent. I think it was. That's ridiculous. One in

1393
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: ten passes and drop dropped. Now we'll talk with Greg

1394
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: about it and see what the measurables are there and

1395
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: how they measure that. But that got my attention, and

1396
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: I know and Calvin Benjamin has taken a lot of

1397
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: heat for that. And a couple of those drops, Yeah,

1398
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: they would have been tough, really tough catches, and you'd

1399
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: love to see him catch those passes. By the same token,

1400
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen still completed sixty eight percent of his passes

1401
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: last week. Certainly that was a win, and that went

1402
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: a long way towards alleviating some of the problems or

1403
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: some of the criticisms of the struggles of wide receivers had,

1404
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: but also a lot of the passes were short, small

1405
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: screen passes, dump off passes. But you know what, those

1406
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: all count and those are also you know, I Murphy,

1407
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, I've been talking about this for months with

1408
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: Josh All and his criticism coming out was his fifty

1409
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: six percent completion rate in college. He never got to

1410
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: throw those short intermediate, those short passes, those dump offs,

1411
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: those screens. They didn't have those in their offense at Wyoming.

1412
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: He never got a ten or five or a half

1413
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: a dozen screen passes. At Wyoming. He was always throwing

1414
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: the football down the field and was always asked to

1415
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: make throws because he was so gifted. They leaned on

1416
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: him and they didn't give him easy completions. So now

1417
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: you get an offense in the pros, the Buffalo Bills,

1418
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: particularly last week, who did give him those completions that

1419
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Oklahoma Sooners ran so much of. And

1420
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he is completing sixty eight percent

1421
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: of his pass two and a half games. It's still

1422
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: fifty six percent. That's exactly what it was in college.

1423
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: But this last one where we saw an offense built

1424
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: around his skill set, sixty eight percent. That's pretty good

1425
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: and skill. That's got to be what it the way

1426
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: it works for him, He's got to stay around that

1427
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 1: number to be effective, in my opinion. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Devin in Buffalo. Hello, Devin, welcome to the show. Thanks guys,

1429
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. My question for you, guys is

1430
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: with all the lebyon belt talks going on and possible

1431
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: trades interests from the Jets, and with Shady getting older

1432
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: and being banged up, is it a good solution for

1433
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: the Bills to look elsewhere and try to maybe take

1434
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: him from a team in our division that's looking to

1435
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: pick him up there or at least interested in just

1436
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: I know she is still good for us, but he

1437
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of prime years left with le

1438
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: beyond Bell. I know we have a lot of dead

1439
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: cats space Nile, but we may have the room to

1440
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: give him that one or two deal. Is that something

1441
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: the Bills should be interested in looking at. Just want

1442
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: to hear your guy's opinion on that. It depends on

1443
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: what you got to give up to him, right Devin.

1444
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to give up on number

1445
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: one for him, you know, I'm not going to do that.

1446
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: And plus you know he's gonna he's walking away from

1447
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: fourteen point five. I don't want to pay running back.

1448
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: I want to pay a running back seventeen. I mean,

1449
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: you're asking me to pay a running back twice the

1450
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: salary that's LaShaun McCoy's making, which is pretty high, which

1451
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: is high. So I'm not gonna do it. Um, I'm

1452
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do I'm not

1453
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: gonna trade. I'm not gonna trade. I'm not gonna trade

1454
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: that much of an asset to get him, and I'm

1455
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: not gonna pay him that much money when he gets here. Um. Yeah,

1456
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: he's a really good player, no question about it. But

1457
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: that's not a deal I would make. Um, let the

1458
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: Jets make that deal. Let the Jets make that deal.

1459
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: That's Let the Jets make that deal. I get it,

1460
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll play well for them, and they've got

1461
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: the money now to do it. The Bills will have

1462
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: the money in twelve months. But I would not trade

1463
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: a high pick like a number one. I wouldn't trade

1464
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: a number two or two twos. I wouldn't do all

1465
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: that to get a running back who you're gonna have

1466
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: to pay. What's it gonna be it's really gonna have

1467
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: to be sixteen millions, and I don't know that's just

1468
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: to me. It's an economic decision as much as it

1469
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: is an excellent decision. That's not for me. That's not

1470
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: for me. We're gonna take a break. Mica Hide going

1471
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: back to Green Bay, where he played the first four

1472
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: years of his NFL career. We'll hear from him his

1473
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: comments from the locker room yesterday when we returned John

1474
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker here One Bill's Live presented by

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back One Bill's Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker comany

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Speaker 1: it Live from One Bill's Drive. So we're talking a minute.

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Speaker 1: Can I read this? I won't read it. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about running backs, how we would not pay that much

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Speaker 1: money to um Livan Bell in response with father, you

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Speaker 1: can't read my response. I know that. We get a

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Speaker 1: text from Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas, who was just

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Speaker 1: in here yesterday and he said, if you guys say

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Speaker 1: one more thing about running backs, drive over there and

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Speaker 1: beat both of you up. Steve responded in an inappropriate way.

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Speaker 1: He deserved it. Thanks for listening calling the show then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. I love them and listens. Hey, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really cool. You gotta be careful to

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Speaker 1: My mom and dad listened to so you gotta be

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Speaker 1: careful inappropriate response to make those public that I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna read it. And I was shocked the fact that

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Speaker 1: I would be inappropriate. I don't need my mom hearing that.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't. You wouldn't even believe it. Hey, we're talking

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Speaker 1: to you about what advantage the Bills might have going

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Speaker 1: up to green Bay. That's our Twitter poll. One of

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Speaker 1: the one of the items we offer you for a

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Speaker 1: potential advantage for the Bills deals with Buffalo's pass rush. Right, Um,

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Speaker 1: it is uh. In our voting it is number two,

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Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, No number three, No number one, fifty

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Speaker 1: two percent. You say the Bill's defensive line against the

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Speaker 1: green Bay offensive line. That's going up against Aaron Rodgers, right,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills in the locker room yesterday, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about that. But more than that, Mike Hide's going home

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Speaker 1: at home, but he's going back to Green Bay, where

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Speaker 1: he played the first four years of his NFL career

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Speaker 1: and yesterday in the locker room. Micah Hyde talking to

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Speaker 1: reporters in the locker room this week, Michael Hyde talked

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Speaker 1: about his return to Green Bay, where he played the

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Speaker 1: first four years of his career. Well, it's gonna be exciting. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously the first organization to take a shot

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Speaker 1: on me, um professionally as a football player. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just thankful for the opportunity that they get that

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Speaker 1: they gave me in Um, I'm excited to play against

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Speaker 1: some of my my really good friends. Um. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's in a football game. UM, I

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Speaker 1: know how Lambo is and all the crowd gets the rowdy,

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Speaker 1: they're loud, Great players on that team, great coaches on

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Speaker 1: that team, and um, there's just another challenge for us

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Speaker 1: as a as a football team. The Packers let Michael

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Speaker 1: Hyde go, let him come to Buffalo, got it more

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Speaker 1: money to come to Buffalo in free agency a year

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Speaker 1: and a half ago. But Steve interesting note on ESPN

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Speaker 1: Green Bay covering the Packers from Rob Demowski. The headline

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Speaker 1: is Packers defense could use someone like Micah Hyde. The

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Speaker 1: past two weeks, he writes, Packers have allowed deep ball

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Speaker 1: touchdowns In both cases, the common denominated was third years

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Speaker 1: safety Ken Trell Bryce as the inside help on the routes. Basically,

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Speaker 1: the point of the article is they miss Michael Hyde.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they do. Michael Hyde has developed into a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl performer for the Bills and a solid leading

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Speaker 1: veteran on this team since he's been here for a

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Speaker 1: year and a half. And it's not like it was

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Speaker 1: something different here in Buffalo, and it wasn't Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Played well for the Packers. He had in twenty fourteen

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Speaker 1: he had two interceptions, in twenty fifteen he had three,

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Speaker 1: and sixteen he had three, and then in Buffalo last

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Speaker 1: year he had five. I mean, the guy gets about

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Speaker 1: that many. He had thirteen passes defense last year for

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Speaker 1: the Bills and he had his highest was nine with

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Speaker 1: the Packers. But he played good safety for them, and

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Speaker 1: he became a free agent and here he is in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo and he's I think he did take another step

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Speaker 1: forward and I think he played a little better. He

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Speaker 1: was good in Green Bay. He's been great in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: And there's no doubt they're sitting there looking at him

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Speaker 1: going wow, which we just spent some money on him.

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Speaker 1: They're near the bottom of the league in most of

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Speaker 1: the past defense categories after just three weeks, obviously, and

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Speaker 1: Michael Hyde now gets a chance to play against his

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Speaker 1: former teammate and close buddy Aaron Rodgers. You think, think

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Speaker 1: about this, though, you got a guy like Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: Is that the reason Micah Hide's not there? They got

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Speaker 1: just signed money to a ten gazillions more contract, and

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Speaker 1: it kind of trickles down to your secondary, to your

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Speaker 1: you know, every all over the roster. That's why all

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Speaker 1: these teams, and I think the Bills are moving into

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Speaker 1: this territory also try to get the young rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: and win then right in his first year his second year.

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Speaker 1: Because you're not tied up most of your salary cap

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback, you can pay other guys. That's why

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did it in Seattle. They try to get

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Speaker 1: it done. You know, other teams are trying to do

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Speaker 1: it as well. And you know Trubisky in Chicago, they're

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Speaker 1: trying to get it done. Marcus Mariot is still in

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Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Jamis Winston still in his rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of guys around the league. The teams

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Speaker 1: try to get that value and so they can spread

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Speaker 1: the money around support the quarterback, and then if the

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Speaker 1: quarterback develops, you figure out what his strengths are and

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Speaker 1: where you can bolster your roster to accentuate that and

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Speaker 1: to compliment to keep winning. It's hard to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to do when you're paying the guy that much.

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Speaker 1: Like I knows Aaron Rodgers pretty well. In fact, he

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Speaker 1: talked about him also in the Buffalo locker room yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Here's the bill safety. He can do it all man.

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Speaker 1: He can run, he can he can throw. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: his intelligence, Um, the way he moves safeties with his eyes. Um,

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Speaker 1: he does it all man. So we gotta we really

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Speaker 1: gotta play our a game, you know, against him and

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Speaker 1: uh not give up big plays. That's obvious in every game,

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Speaker 1: but especially with this team because once they get rolling,

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Speaker 1: they're hard to stop. Little tendencies that you pick up

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Speaker 1: or let the other guys do. Um. As far as

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Speaker 1: his own personal play those, I mean, uh, I think

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Speaker 1: it's evident on tape what kind of player he is,

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Speaker 1: and throughout the league, I don't. I don't think anything

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Speaker 1: goes unnoticed with with twelve. Everybody knows who what type

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Speaker 1: of players. I don't need to stand in in front

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Speaker 1: of the whole defense and explain to him what type

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Speaker 1: of player Aaron Rodgers is. Everybody knows. So um, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of one of those things to go out there

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Speaker 1: and and you gotta play your best, like I said,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a huge challenge for us. On Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Micah Hide, Bill Safety talking to reporters at his locker

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Speaker 1: and not on our show, but at his locker yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We have the other safety in here yesterday, Jordan Poyer,

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Speaker 1: and he said something about disguising coverages. He said they

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Speaker 1: had success doing it against Cousins last week and they

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Speaker 1: hope to do that again. Mike ha talked about Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers moving safeties with his eyes. Maybe that's like the key.

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Speaker 1: It's a key matchup, but one of the inside tricks

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Speaker 1: of this game, right Hide and Poyer against Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: Roger gonna try to move them with his eyes. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to disguise what they do and maybe full

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Speaker 1: a craft event or like Aaron Rodgers. I think it's

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Speaker 1: huge in this game. That's what Rodgers does. And we've

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Speaker 1: all seen Aaron Rodgers play because he does playing a

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Speaker 1: lot of Monday night games, a lot of games that

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Speaker 1: we watch and playoff games. We've seen him for all

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Speaker 1: these years, and the thing that always strikes me, and

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Speaker 1: maybe some of the viewers or listeners will agree, is

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Speaker 1: how easy he makes everything he does. Look he scrambling

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Speaker 1: around the pocket, he's back, and then he keeps his

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Speaker 1: eyes down the field. He doesn't He never seemed to

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Speaker 1: have that body language where he's in a panic. He

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Speaker 1: draws and he throws the ball from all angles at

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Speaker 1: any and his release is so quick it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: where his feet are or where his body is. Dan

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Speaker 1: Fouts we just had on this show, mentioned the same thing.

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Speaker 1: He is so cool back there. Nothing seems to be

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Speaker 1: too much for him. He has eyes in the back

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Speaker 1: of his head, so to be. He seems to sense

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Speaker 1: the rush wherever it comes from, can deliver the ball

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Speaker 1: anywhere on the field. He looks safeties off. He has

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Speaker 1: look one way, one way, they'll come back and throw

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Speaker 1: the other side of the field without looking. It seems

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Speaker 1: he just does so many things that it seems so

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Speaker 1: difficult for other quarterbacks to do, and all the time

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Speaker 1: he's doing it, it looks like nothing. The guy is

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Speaker 1: an intimidating quarterback for a fan base to go in

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Speaker 1: and play against. And I don't know what Micah Hyde

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Poyer think, because they've got a game plan

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna go in And I know that, I

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Speaker 1: know how players think. They're not intimidated at all. They

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Speaker 1: want the chance to go in there. And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what good players are. Let's say, yeah, let's go

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Speaker 1: trying at Aaron Rodgers. Let's do it. That's the way

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Speaker 1: they think. But for us sitting out here who can't

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Speaker 1: affect the game, you think, man, oh man, what are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do? What are we gonna do? What are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do? Lorenzo Alexander answer that question in the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo locker room yesterday. What do you do with Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 1: How do you play defense against him? Here's what Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: Alexander said. Obviously he's a cowbear. So he's one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks ever. You know, that's where I went

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Speaker 1: if you guys didn't know. But he's great, very smart, intelligent,

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Speaker 1: can make all the throws from any angles, unorthodox throws

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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't typically see a quarterback. Bak and he

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Speaker 1: makes them. Obviously he's been with his group and coordinates

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Speaker 1: for a long time, so they have a great feel

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Speaker 1: for each other, especially when he starts to scrambling gets

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Speaker 1: out of the pocket. Obviously, with his knee injury, he's

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Speaker 1: been a little bit hampered, but we're going into mind

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Speaker 1: frame that he's healthy, because when you start looking at

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Speaker 1: guys like that, guys like you know, like Aaron Tender

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Speaker 1: sometimes rise above maybe an injury and play above him.

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Speaker 1: But just because they're so locked in and focus. And

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Speaker 1: so we definitely have to make sure that we carrawl

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Speaker 1: and try to him in the pocket because he's he

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Speaker 1: becomes unstoppable once he gets out, and that's when a

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Speaker 1: lot of their big players happen, and that's something that

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Speaker 1: we can't afford as a team or defense. Lorenzo talking

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Speaker 1: about how to defend against Aaron Rodgers, A lot of

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Speaker 1: it for the Pills is pressure, right, and like most quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers does not due as well nearly as well

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Speaker 1: when he faces his strong pressure. Yeah, and this just

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Speaker 1: then when it's harder to play, he's not as good,

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Speaker 1: but it's hard to get pressure on him. He's twelve

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Speaker 1: to twenty less than fifty percent this season, he's less

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Speaker 1: than fifty percent when he's under pressure, like forty eight percent.

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Speaker 1: His yards per attempt drops significantly. He's got one touchdown,

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Speaker 1: no interceptions. He's got five touchdowns no interceptions when he's

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Speaker 1: a not under pressure, and his passer rating is only

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Speaker 1: seventy seven as opposed to regularly when it's one twelve.

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Speaker 1: That's the key to the whole thing, and some of

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Speaker 1: that has that statistic for this season obviously has been

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Speaker 1: accentuated by the fact that he hasn't been as mobile

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Speaker 1: as he normally is. That's an issue that remain is

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Speaker 1: kind of a wild card in this whole scenario for

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Speaker 1: the Bills player and for Aaron Rodgers too, I would imagine,

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't know exactly how good he's gonna be,

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Speaker 1: what he's gonna be able to do, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously his numbers probably weren't as good as

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01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 1: they normally would have been, given the fact that he's

1685
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: been hobbled by that nie since Week one. And they

1686
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: have offensive line issues. They're starting right guard Justin McCrae

1687
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: not likely to play. They moved Byron Bell up into

1688
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. They're a starting right tackle Brian Bulaga

1689
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: a little bit banged up on the injury report yesterday,

1690
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: so something to watch, you know. Can they get pressure.

1691
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 1: They did a good job with pressure on Kirk Cousins.

1692
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: Can they do it this week against Aaron Rodgers on

1693
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: the line. Steven Archer park with some thoughts, Steve, go ahead,

1694
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: you're on the air, play guys good. I was watching

1695
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,839
Speaker 1: an interview with Aaron Rodgers just on YouTube and recently

1696
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: it's just and then he took concern about facing the Bills.

1697
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: They said they had a topsy turvy first three games,

1698
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know, just the sense I got for

1699
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: him was he was very confident, you know about facing

1700
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: the Bill's defense. That's nearly here or there, I guess,

1701
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that's before you move on. That's

1702
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: who he is, right, He's the guy who's spelled out

1703
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 1: our E L A X a couple of years ago.

1704
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: That's who he is. He's cool, you know, Chico, California.

1705
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: He's cool. If he does get nervous, he's not gonna

1706
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: let you and me know it. He's not even He

1707
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: never really seems to get too nervous on the field.

1708
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: So if you never see him barking a teammates or

1709
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: coaches or anything. Really, you don't even see him barking

1710
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: and officials. Yeah. The only time I ever seen saw

1711
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: him have a little spark of a temper was when

1712
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,560
Speaker 1: Damaican Sue stepped on him and stood up on his

1713
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: on his shin. Yeah. Then he kind of pushed him

1714
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: off like that, uh you know, kind of mad. That's it. Yeah,

1715
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: and you never see that guy. That's exactly the reaction

1716
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: in Dominicans who was looking forward to Yeah, yeah, well

1717
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: not really. He wanted a bone to crack on, but

1718
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: it didn't. Steve go ahead? What else did you? Yeah? Not,

1719
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: you're right. But if we're this is a great time

1720
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: to play him, I believe, because they do have so

1721
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: many injuries, a couple offensive lineman who if Ryan Balaga

1722
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: does play, I don't know if they'll make the game.

1723
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: They lost their best defensive. Yeah, this is this is

1724
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: the Bills. Do I give them a legitimate chance this week?

1725
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think they're gonna come in there and

1726
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: they're at least gonna play a good game. I don't

1727
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna win, but I like the fact that, um,

1728
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna go in there and I think they'll get

1729
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 1: I'll think they'll give him a fight. So that's that's

1730
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to. Well, I mean from the

1731
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: outside and Steve, no question, most people would sit there

1732
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: and say, when everybody's healthy, Green Bay's a better team.

1733
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: They're just they were because of the quarterback mostly but

1734
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: by the same token. Uh, this is the Bill's team

1735
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: that under Sean McDermott, Bills fans have seen them overachieved constantly.

1736
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 1: They did it the entire season last year, except you know,

1737
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: for a game here and there. Last week was more

1738
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: of what we thought we would see about this team

1739
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: this year. I don't think they overachieved last week. I

1740
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: think they played their game last week. But this is

1741
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: a team that because of the culture Sean mcdermot's got

1742
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: has installed and the players that they have now which

1743
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 1: are in you know, getting better. I think there's that

1744
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: big vibe about the Bills that are that it's growing.

1745
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: You know, something better is happening week to week. You

1746
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: look at Josh Allen, there's no question he played better

1747
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 1: last week than he did the week before, and the

1748
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: better the week before than he did the week before that.

1749
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy just continues to grow. Now that

1750
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: that could be that could come to a screeching halt

1751
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: this week. But you're right, Uh, while green Bay maybe

1752
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: on paper the better team, Uh, Buffalo's got signed. I

1753
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: read some stuff that from from some of our listeners.

1754
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: They think Bill the Bills have momentum. They think the

1755
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: pack are trying to struggle and get it going, and

1756
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: the Bills have got some momentum going in. Yeah, that's

1757
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 1: a tough sell before the game, week before the game starts.

1758
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: It's a week to week league. It's a tough sell

1759
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: before the game starts. But there's no question that maybe

1760
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: the game, the momentum that they had at the end

1761
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: of the Vikings game, has carried them through the preparation.

1762
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: They may feel better and have prepared with a little

1763
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: bit more verve than they would have otherwise. And can

1764
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: you imagine how down they'd be if they were owing three?

1765
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: So where many of us thought they would be right

1766
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: this list at this time last week, didn't you fully

1767
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: anticipate the Bills will be owing three going to Green Bay? Yeah,

1768
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: sure you did, but you know what, not so much now. Yeah,

1769
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: you got to feel pretty good now this is that

1770
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: they showed something and I think the players feel at

1771
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: two and I think that carries over into preparation. We'll

1772
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: see if it manifests itself. On Sunday, a breakcare, We're

1773
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: back with more John Murphy, Steve Tasker. It is One

1774
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health from One Bill's Drive.

1775
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:53,879
Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's reading John Murphy, Steve Tasker

1776
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: from our One Buffalo Studio and we're getting set for

1777
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: the Bills that the Packers. The NFL Weekend starts tonight

1778
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: with a pretty good game, pretty important game. I'm I'm

1779
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: sorry to see some of the injured players in this game, Steve,

1780
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: especially from the Los Angeles Rams. It is the Rams

1781
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: and the Vikings tonight. Well, on a couple of levels,

1782
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: it would be really interesting to me to see how

1783
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: the Vikings responded that beat down, right, Yeah, right, they

1784
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: were embarrassed, They had to be embarrassed by what the

1785
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills did to them last week. I'm pretty sure

1786
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: they were a little more than disappointed, no question about it. Yeah,

1787
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: I'll see how they respond. And then you got the Rams,

1788
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: who are gonna be without it appears Marcus Peters one

1789
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: starting cornerback and the other one as well a keep

1790
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: to Lee. Both went down on the win over the

1791
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: Chargers last week. For LA the Three and LA Rams,

1792
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: neither one expected to play. Yeah wait till a little

1793
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: bit of a setback for the Rams. Yeah, that's Wade

1794
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 1: Phillips will have some holes to fill in his roster

1795
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: and his defensive game plan. You know, they've they've seen

1796
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: it coming. I mean, they just isn't didn't get dropped

1797
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: on them on Saturday night before the game, and they

1798
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: they've been able to prepare for it all week and

1799
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: they will. So I got a lot of faith in

1800
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips and that coaching staff. Plus they're playing at home,

1801
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: but they are playing a Vikings team who came off

1802
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of a wake up call, and it'll

1803
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they respond even without the

1804
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: wake up call. Just personnel wise, I'm gonna go through

1805
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: these two teams with you real quick here. Quarterback Jared

1806
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 1: Goff versus Kirk Cousins Golf Golf's running back Todd Gurley

1807
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: or Dalvin Cook. Let's say Cook is supposed to be

1808
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: ready to play. Todd Gurley absolutely receivers uh Cooper Cup,

1809
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Brandon Cooks versus Stefan Diggs and Adam Feeling

1810
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: might give it. That might give it to the Vikes.

1811
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: It's a toss up, toss up defense Aaron Donald and

1812
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: Dominican Sue or Daniel Hun. Care who it is right right? Yeah,

1813
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: it's in Dominican and the Rams have better personnel, no question.

1814
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: They're three and oz two to start. Vikings won one

1815
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: and one. Listen, if the Vikings and I like the

1816
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: way the Bills played last week, but let me tell

1817
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: you this. If the Bikes think that the Bills had

1818
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: a good front four, where did they get a load

1819
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 1: of Endomican Sue and Aaron Donald? Yeah, this is not

1820
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, the more I think about it,

1821
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: this this game won't be close either. I don't care

1822
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: how motivate they are, and think about this, and this

1823
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: is We're gonna get to the point now where we

1824
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: start winding about Thursday night football. Vikings just got their

1825
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: their butts whooped by the Bills on Sunday. Doesn't seem

1826
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 1: like that long ago. Went back to work on Monday,

1827
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: practice on Tuesday, and then flew Tuesday, two days ago

1828
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to play this game. That's really not what.

1829
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: That's not NFL football. That's not the way it should work.

1830
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: How are they ready to play after flying crossing to

1831
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: find out? Because I don't think they will be. I

1832
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way they can be. I mean,

1833
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: you think about it. You just put that last game

1834
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: to bed yesterday, yeah, you know, or the day before,

1835
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, and the day before they're traveling. I mean

1836
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: they you know, they're already thinking they're halfway neck deep

1837
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: into this game tonight. They could even they couldn't even

1838
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: watch that game last Sunday. Maybe they didn't want to,

1839
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, that is a short week, a

1840
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: really short week, going from east to west coast. Well

1841
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 1: they're middle of the country Minnesota. Now they're not oh no, no, no,

1842
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah Minnesota. Yeah. So four hours two hours.

1843
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: It's a four hour flight, but a two hour time difference,

1844
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: and it takes them two days to get acclimated to it,

1845
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: which isn't it gives you an hour a day, that's

1846
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 1: what they say. So yeah, I mean they're on the

1847
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: road for two days. That's a yeah, you know what. Yeah,

1848
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: the Rams. Listen if the Rams roll about midway through

1849
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: the second quarter, just after halftime, the Vikings, guys are

1850
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: gonna be going, well, you know what, I'm gonna really

1851
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: look forward to this long week we got off. Yeah,

1852
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, I am really looking forward to games on

1853
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: Fox TV. And so you got Joe Buck, Troy Aikman,

1854
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: and Aaron Andrews on the call. It's also going to

1855
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: be stream live on Amazon dot Com. Amazon announced a

1856
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: couple of days ago that Hannah Storm, who's great, great.

1857
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: You ever meet her? I know her, she's great. She

1858
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: was a reporter in Houston on the oilers when I

1859
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: was a player there. She was a beat reporter there.

1860
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: She's I just met her a couple of years ago

1861
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: when she was here with ESPN. She's going to be

1862
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 1: calling the play by playing. Andrea Kramer, who you know,

1863
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: also is going to do the color. It's the first

1864
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: time it's an all women team to call an NFL game.

1865
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: They'll do it on Amazon Streaming Video today. I don't

1866
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: want to be I'm not trying to be cookie. I

1867
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 1: just want to know which one's calling play by play,

1868
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: which one is the analyst. It doesn't I'm looking here.

1869
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't say I think Hannah's Hannah Storm will call

1870
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: the play by play. Do you believe they're getting Ah,

1871
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: there's I'm reading an interview which I read this morning.

1872
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 1: It was on NPR, Yeah, it was on NPR. Handa

1873
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: Storm didn't an interview and mentioned that they're getting backlash

1874
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: from fans, people who think women don't make good sports commentators,

1875
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: people critical of their knowledge of football. Andrea Kameron Kramer

1876
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: just went in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I

1877
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: think she kind of knows what she's looking at and

1878
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: talking about. Hannah Storm has been at ESPN Sports Center.

1879
01:30:58,240 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: She of course, was at CBS for a long time.

1880
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with this. In fact, I

1881
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: don't care if two women do it, two men do it.

1882
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: A woman and a man, right, I mean, we're aren't

1883
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: we beyond that now? I want to know how matter?

1884
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 1: I just want to know what it sounds like. What

1885
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: are they talking? Are they interesting to listen to? Are

1886
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: they comfortable? Do they make did make the game fun

1887
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: and entertaining? I mean, that's all I care about. I'm

1888
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: because listen, you can listen to a guy like Chris

1889
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 1: Collinsworth and it's like taking a college class. I mean,

1890
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: you're sitting in a lecture when he does those games,

1891
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: and he explains what's going on, how he does it,

1892
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: very he's does an unbelievable job. And then you you

1893
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: get guys more like me who kind of just have

1894
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: fun and be themselves and talk about what they think's interesting. Yeah,

1895
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 1: you know who, I don't think it's interesting, and I'm

1896
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: reluctant to say it, but I don't think. Um, I

1897
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: don't think Troy Aikman has ever sent an interesting comment

1898
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: in his life on a broadcast. Really, I don't think

1899
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: he ever has. I was watching he I can't remember.

1900
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: I watched so much, so many games. Now he doesn't

1901
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: add to it, you know, he's like the basic. Now,

1902
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and there's an interview here, and listen,

1903
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna open up a can of words and people

1904
01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 1: are gonna start giving their opinions about every right, including man. Listen,

1905
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 1: and I get all the criticism I deserve. But here's

1906
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: the thing. Here's the thing. Mur If you know this

1907
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: as well as I do, you get Tony Romo, Troy Aikman,

1908
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: Phil Simms, Dan Fouts, who we had on this show,

1909
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Rich Gannon, Darryl Johnston, all the guys are across the board.

1910
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: John Gruden when he was in the booth, gentleman, here's

1911
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: the thing. You can show any game you want to

1912
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: a hundred people, and there will be a percentage of

1913
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: them who think it's the best game they've ever seen.

1914
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: There'll be a percentage of them on the other end

1915
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: who think it's the worst game they've ever seen, and

1916
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: everybody else in the middle somewhere. It's just the way

1917
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: it works. What you love, I hate, and what I

1918
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: love you hate. I thought, it's just the way it works.

1919
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I believe this. On the topic of NFL announcers. Nobody

1920
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: has ever watched the game because since Howard Cosell, nobody

1921
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: has ever tuned into a game because who was announcing

1922
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: the game. I do believe that if you're interested in

1923
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: the game, you're interested in the game, not who's y

1924
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 1: happening in the play by play. I really, I know

1925
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: that's true for us on the radio. I'm sorry to

1926
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: say it's probably true for for sure, nobody nobody's gonna watch,

1927
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: nobody's tuning in because of me. Well you know I

1928
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 1: mean that, So I will say that. UM. Interesting answer

1929
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: to a question Hannah Storm on NPR today, Um, she

1930
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: wants to what she and Andrey want to do is

1931
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: find out what makes these players tick. Her quote. So

1932
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: we don't feel that we necessarily have to describe every

1933
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: single thing that you're seeing on TV. As we're talking,

1934
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: we might be having a discussion, and you know, we'll

1935
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: also catch you up on the action, but you're also

1936
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: watching it so you can see it with your own eyes.

1937
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And you know this, you're a TV guy,

1938
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: football on TV guy, you don't have to say, um,

1939
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, here's Todd Gurley to the fourteen yard line,

1940
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: six yard game, second down coming up. People see it.

1941
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: So that's why I think Hannah and Andrea Kramer are

1942
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: just as equipped to do this and probably do, probably

1943
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: do a better job than Troy Aikman and just kind

1944
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 1: of making the game interesting. I'll listen. Yeah, And there's

1945
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: nothing that says they're not more qualified than most of

1946
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: the male announcers are male beat writers or male guys

1947
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: who have been around covering the league for three decades. Either,

1948
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: they're probably more qualified than a lot of them. None

1949
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: of them have played either, So sure, what are you

1950
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: talking about? You know how qualified you got to be?

1951
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: I mean, they've paid their dues, they've been around the game,

1952
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: they've covered it, They've asked questions, They've earned a respect

1953
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: of guys in the league and out of the league,

1954
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: so I'm happy for him. I think it's an interesting

1955
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: thing tonight, and I'll be interested. I don't know. If

1956
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, if I probably take the time to

1957
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: stream it, I'll probably just turn on the TV, but

1958
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: I will be interested in in the commentary. I hope

1959
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: they do well. I do too the best. I'm I'm

1960
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: well acquainted with both of them, and I have a

1961
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: lot of respect for both of them. All right. Coming

1962
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: up in the next hour of the show, the final

1963
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: hour of the show, we expect to get the injury

1964
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: update from the Bills. At some point. Practice should be

1965
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: wrapping up. In the next minute or two, We're gonna

1966
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: talk with Dean Blandino, formerly the NFL's vice president of officiating.

1967
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 1: You know, we don't feel it here in Buffalo as

1968
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: much as they do around the league. A lot of

1969
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: places around the league are in uproar over the roughing

1970
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 1: the passer call. We'll talk with Dean Blendino about that

1971
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: and officiating in general. When we returned, Steve Tasker, John

1972
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: Murphy won Bill's Live presented by Collat of Health from

1973
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio bo Hills

1974
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Radio Network Sports update from One Bill's Drive. The Buffalo

1975
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: Bills have wrapped up their practice on this Thursday, headed

1976
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: to the locker room as we speak. They may get

1977
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: Lashawan McCoy back in the lineup this week. He did

1978
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: not play last Sunday in Minnesota. He more than non

1979
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: contact jersey today, but he was limited in practice the

1980
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 1: last couple of days. The official injury reports moments away

1981
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: here tightand Charles Clay looked to be sidelined today with

1982
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: the shoulder and hip issues that came up yesterday when

1983
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: he practiced on a limited basis. Defensive Endshack Lawson maybe

1984
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: getting close to returning. He's missed the last two games

1985
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. Bills in Green Bay to play

1986
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 1: the Packers on Sunday, the first visit for Buffalo to

1987
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Lambou Field in eight years. It's Sunday at one. We've

1988
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 1: got the game on our flagship radio station in Buffalo,

1989
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: w GR Sports Radio five fifty and all over the

1990
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: Bills Radio network. Packers coach Mike McCarthy says Aaron Rodgers

1991
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 1: would be a limited participant in practice today. Over the

1992
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: last two weeks, he's only practiced on Saturday with his

1993
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: healthy teammates, So the fact that he's involved in today's practice,

1994
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: even on a limited basis, amounts to a positive step

1995
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: forward for Rogers, who was trying to recover from the

1996
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: knee injury suffered in the season opener. He's still probably

1997
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: going to have to manage pain in his left knee

1998
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,919
Speaker 1: on some level in Sunday's game against the Bills. Carolina

1999
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 1: Panthers signed Pro Bowl for agent safety Eric Reid, who

2000
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 1: was not resigned by San Francisco in the offseason amid

2001
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: the controversy of his grievance with the NFL. He was

2002
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 1: the first player to join Colin Kaepernick and kneeling during

2003
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 1: the national anthem. He replaces the North Seriously on Carolina's roster.

2004
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,799
Speaker 1: Last week, Seriously went on the injured reserve list, suffering

2005
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,839
Speaker 1: his second concussion in a month. Tonight, Thursday Night Football,

2006
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Rams corner Marcus Peters questionable with a calf injury. He

2007
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: is unlikely to play. The Rams also without cornerback at

2008
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: keep to Leib who's having ankle surgery today. It is

2009
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: an eight eight twenty kickoff Tonight in Los Angeles, the

2010
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and the Los Angeles Rams. Vikings coming off

2011
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: their loss against the Bills. The Rams three and oz

2012
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: into this game. As we said eight fifteen tonight, Richard

2013
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: Matthews apparently has had enough. The veteran wide receiver says

2014
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 1: he's reached an agreement with the Tennessee Titan tray his release,

2015
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Sabers finish off their preseason tomorrow night

2016
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,839
Speaker 1: in Oshawa for a game against the New York Islanders.

2017
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio, our

2018
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 1: number three of our show One Bills Live from One

2019
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Bills Drive all over the NFL. It's the dominant issue.

2020
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: It is officiating, in particular the roughing the passer calls.

2021
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: Joining us right now on the subway fresh Day Coline

2022
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: to talk about this another officiating issues. We're happy to

2023
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: have the box sports, NFL and college football rules analysts.

2024
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Former NFL Vice President of Officiating Dean Blandino, Dean Hi,

2025
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, John Murphy and Steve Tasker in Buffalo.

2026
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. No problems. We're doing okay. We We've

2027
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,799
Speaker 1: been spared. I think much of this controversy in Buffalo.

2028
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: We have not had a real controversial roughing the pastor

2029
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: called yet through three weeks. But it's it's definitely an

2030
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: issue all over the league, isn't it? It is for sure.

2031
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot of discussion obviously surrounding

2032
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: Green Bay has been one team that seems to have

2033
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: been have been a part of it, has been a

2034
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: part of this with with Clay Matthews, and it's definitely, uh,

2035
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's point of emphasis. It's a it's a

2036
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 1: player's safety deal and uh and it's something everybody's talking

2037
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: about right now. Yeah, during your time as vice president

2038
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 1: of officiating for the NFL, but the rule that was

2039
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: the big hot button was the catch rule. They tinkered

2040
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: with it, they got and now it seems that hasn't

2041
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 1: even been a blip on the radar, do you they

2042
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: finally it seems like fix that. Yeah, that that's been

2043
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: that's been very quiet and we haven't you know, And

2044
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just a result of just

2045
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: the rough in the pastors stuff just overwhelming everybody, but

2046
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: it's been it's been very quiet on catch no catch,

2047
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 1: which is a good thing, and these things tend to

2048
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: go in cycle. So maybe rough in the past will

2049
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: die down and we'll get some catch now catch controversy

2050
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. Yeah, thee I the penalty.

2051
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Gerald McCoy the other night.

2052
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of seen the highlight where and he was

2053
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: miked up. Jerald McCoy came in on Ben Roethlisberger on

2054
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: a Monday night football and hit him and was apologizing

2055
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger before Ben even hit the ground. Why

2056
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: was the flag thrown on that? Was that late or

2057
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 1: was that a bad hit? Yeah, so the McCoy hit

2058
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: that was late, so you have up until you know

2059
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't an egregious flagrant hit. But again,

2060
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: when the when the past is gone, the defender has

2061
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: up until his second step to make contact and so

2062
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 1: it's called the two step roles, so he basically has

2063
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 1: to make contact before that second step hits the ground

2064
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: to avoid a foul after the past is gone. So

2065
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: that's why that's why McCoy got called in that in

2066
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 1: that situation, that seemed like that seemed like a really

2067
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 1: good hit to me, And of course then later on

2068
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Ben got hit in the head and looked as like

2069
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: somebody hit him with a baseball bat rather than just

2070
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,560
Speaker 1: grazing him. But um, there's no question he embellished it

2071
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: a little bit and drew the flag. But that's still

2072
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: that's a that's been a flag for a long time.

2073
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 1: To hit to the helmet, yeah, they answer, the helmet

2074
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: head has been a foul has to be forcible. I

2075
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: think ben Um, certainly you know, in my in my view,

2076
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: embellished it a little and but the referee is going

2077
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 1: to be looking for forceable contact us versus a graze

2078
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 1: or a brush, something that's really not gonna gonna, you know,

2079
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: cause a potential injury. We're with Dean Blandino, former NFL

2080
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Vice president will officiating. I want to dive in deep

2081
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: into the roughing the pastor calls, Dean, But before that,

2082
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 1: can you give us an example of, you know, what

2083
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: the dialogue is like between the league, the officiating department,

2084
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 1: and the actual on field officials, Like, is there a

2085
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: meeting they have or even phone calls during the course

2086
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 1: of the week where they say, hey, we're really going

2087
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: to lock down on this roughing the pastor when they

2088
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: say it's a point of emphasis. When is that communicated

2089
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: to the officials and how is it communicating? Yeah, well,

2090
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 1: so the point of emphasis will always come from the

2091
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: petition committee meetings, and so they'll identify issues and whether

2092
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: it's safety related or something that involves, you know, the

2093
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,560
Speaker 1: competitive equity of the game. So at that point, you know,

2094
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 1: it'll start in the off season with videos and teaching tapes.

2095
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: The officials will start to get that message. There's a

2096
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 1: it goes. The officials have a clinic every year in

2097
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: July where they spend a couple of days. It'll be

2098
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: reinforced at that point, and then on a weekly basis,

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01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: the league communicates with every crew. Every crew gets feedback

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01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 1: on their previous game, and then the league will put

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01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: out teaching tapes on different issues, and this would be

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01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: one of them. They would put out several examples. Here's

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01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: here's a couple of examples that are foul, here's a

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01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,640
Speaker 1: couple that are not, and try to give the officials

2105
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 1: direction so that they can be consistent calling it going forward.

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01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: They only come up with the body weight aspect of it.

2107
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 1: And when did they come up with that? Yeah, so

2108
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 1: the rule, so this rule, this is not a new rule,

2109
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 1: it's been on the book since nineteen ninety five. But

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01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 1: I think really what happened last years we had the

2111
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: the Anthony Barr hit on Aaron Rodgers where where Aaron

2112
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 1: was injured, and at the time, um, that was not

2113
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: that was not a foul. He landed on him, But

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01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, there wasn't a lift and drive,

2115
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: there wasn't some some kind of second act. It was

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01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: really just a follow through. Um the competition. He looked

2117
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: at that play, wanted that play to be a foul,

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01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 1: and so they they looked at the language in the

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01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 1: rule book and basically came out with this emphasis that look,

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01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: if you land on the quarterback with all or your

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01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: most all or most of your body way and you

2122
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: don't make an attempt to get off to the side,

2123
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 1: that's going to be a foul m regardless of whether

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01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 1: there's some some form of a lift and drive to

2125
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: the ground. And I think that's what we're seeing called

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01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that's what has some of

2127
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: the defensive players and obviously a lot of people, uh,

2128
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, kind of frustrated with that. So that's been

2129
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 1: in book for twenty three years, but just now, I

2130
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 1: mean I've never heard of it until this year. It's

2131
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 1: it's been on the books for twenty three years. But

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01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 1: the way it was officiated, and you know, and this

2133
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: goes back, you know, to win Steve plays too, it's

2134
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 1: there had to be something extra. You know, you have

2135
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback wrapped up. Now you lift them and dump

2136
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 1: them to the ground versus just running through and following

2137
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: through on a normal tackle. So so the standard now

2138
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: is if you even even as part of a follow through,

2139
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 1: you can't land on the quarterback with all or most

2140
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: of your body weight, even if you don't do anything additional.

2141
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: And I think that's the change that has created a

2142
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: lot of this, a lot of this discussion. You hear

2143
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know who to believe here, but you

2144
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: hear some defenders say it is physically and anatomically impossible

2145
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: to try to avoid hitting him with the with your

2146
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: body weight heard, the bulk of your body weight. What

2147
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 1: do you think of what do you think? I think

2148
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: to that? What do you make of that? You know

2149
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 1: you always hear that whenever you implement rules, you do

2150
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,560
Speaker 1: hear people to that, And look, the reality is, in

2151
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: some instances it is impossible, you know, just the way,

2152
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, the way the defender makes initial contact, the

2153
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: way his body's going to the ground, the way to quarterback.

2154
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes it is impossible, but but it's not impossible all

2155
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: the time because you do see legal hits. You do

2156
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: see examples of players being able to shift their weight

2157
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: and get it off to the side, So you know,

2158
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: sometimes they can, sometimes they can't. You know, the league,

2159
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the Competition Committee had a call last night and this

2160
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: was not They had a call schedule for next week

2161
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: and they felt strongly enough about this issue to move

2162
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: that call up to last night, and they discussed this issue,

2163
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: looked at video, and basically the league put out a

2164
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 1: statement that they're not they're not changing anything. They put

2165
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 1: out a statement saying they had a call, they discussed it,

2166
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,839
Speaker 1: it's going to continue to be a point of emphasis.

2167
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: They put out a video with eight plays just to

2168
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 1: show legal and not legal examples. So you know, this

2169
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: is going to continue to be something that we have

2170
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: to watch for going forward. And Dean, this is in

2171
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 1: part of the statement from Vice President of Football Operations

2172
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: of the National Football League, Troy Vincent did put out

2173
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: a statement in part, and I'll read the part that's

2174
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: interesting In reiterating its position on quarterback protection the committee.

2175
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 1: That means the Competition Committee determined there would be no

2176
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: changes to the point of emphasis approved this spring or

2177
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: to the rule of which the body weight provision has

2178
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 1: been in place since nineteen ninety five. So they're going

2179
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: to go ahead and continue to call it as they

2180
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: have in the first month of this season. And that

2181
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: was part of that's this part of the statement that

2182
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: was a result of the telephone call that you just

2183
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: referenced that happened last night with a competition committee. They're

2184
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: not going to change a thing. That's why I take

2185
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I take from that statement and from

2186
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: the video that the examples that they use there's nothing different.

2187
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: So that's what's being said publicly. Now you know, I've

2188
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: been in the league office. I've been through this before.

2189
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes not everything that is discussed public and maybe privately. Uh,

2190
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 1: there's some discussions going on that that's okay. Here's here's

2191
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: some examples of we want to, we want to, we

2192
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: don't want it called. So I don't know if that's happening,

2193
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 1: but I know that that that's something that's been part

2194
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: of the dynamic in the past. Rideem Blandino, the longtime

2195
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: NFL Vice president of officiating, now Fox Sports College and

2196
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 1: NFL officiating rules analysts, talking. The Bills are going to

2197
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 1: play Green Bay, and I'm sure when we get there

2198
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,799
Speaker 1: this weekend, there'll be a lot of talk about claim Matthews.

2199
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: I believe he's had one roughing the penalty, uh uh,

2200
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: roughing the past for penalty in each game, one of

2201
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: them against Kirk Cousins. I believe he was cited for

2202
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 1: um called it, yeah, scooping him up, grabbing that he

2203
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 1: grabbed the quarterbacks left leg. And is that is that

2204
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: the burping maneuver that they call? Is that what that is? Yeah?

2205
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: You know that they used some language to describe that

2206
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 1: there was a pull in scoop, which is not language

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01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: that I have ever heard in my time and officiating

2208
01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: going back to nineteen ninety four. And I think that, um,

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01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, to me, the hit on Cousins was not

2210
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: a foul, even under the new point of emphasis, And

2211
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: I think internally that that was probably the consensus as well,

2212
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 1: because because just just lifting up the quarterback and taking

2213
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: him to the ground is not a foul. There would

2214
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: have to be you know, driving him, landing on with

2215
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 1: all the most of your body weights. So I think

2216
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: that that one was probably one. Even internally, I think

2217
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the league would probably say that that was not one

2218
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: they want called Dan the league and you've been in

2219
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: this position. The league has to be aware that, you know,

2220
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 1: fans get upset and it's not even that they don't

2221
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 1: like the rule. That's if they don't know what the

2222
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 1: rule is. That some of the stuff sounds new. Um,

2223
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: is it worth it to enforce these rules to the

2224
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 1: to the letter of the law if you're angering some

2225
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: of your customers who aren't sure they know what they're

2226
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: watching anymore. Yeah, I think it's a balance. You certainly

2227
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: don't want to. I lived through that with the catch

2228
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 1: rule and where people didn't understand it and people you know,

2229
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: and so you're trying to educate. You're trying to teach

2230
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: because you feel like you know. The NFL and the

2231
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 1: Competition Committee doesn't doesn't implement, They don't implement rules, uh,

2232
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 1: for for no good reason. You know, these vise rules

2233
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,639
Speaker 1: are in place for good reasons. They're there to protect

2234
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Obviously, it's a it's a premium position. There

2235
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of people on this planet that can

2236
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,799
Speaker 1: play it at the NFL level, and so you certainly

2237
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 1: don't want to have those those players or any player

2238
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 1: injured unnecessarily. And uh, but it is it is something

2239
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: when you do have this kind of an outcry from

2240
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: the fans, from the media, you know, from your you know,

2241
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: the people that are that make that that make this

2242
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 1: sport as as popular as it is. You have to

2243
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 1: you have to give them something. You have to explain

2244
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: to them the why, why is the rule in place,

2245
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: Here's the history of it, here's here's how it's going

2246
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: to be called. You just have to continue to teach

2247
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: and educate and hopefully get people to come around. Dean,

2248
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 1: how much of this And I think this is a

2249
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: big part of it, even with the catch rule, and

2250
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 1: you go all the way back to the Dez Bryant

2251
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 1: catch and then these plays, particularly the one against Clay

2252
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Matthews against Minnesota, it ended up being the difference in

2253
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 1: a football game. That's when these things are brought to

2254
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 1: highlight because you know the catch rule of Dez Bryant,

2255
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go down score, they go to the Super Bowl,

2256
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: or they go to the championship game. And of course

2257
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 1: this last when with Clay Matthews. He doesn't get called

2258
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: for that. The Packers intercept the ball and the game

2259
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 1: is over, and then because of that ball was called back,

2260
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: the Vikings got a chance to tie the game up,

2261
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: and it ended in a tie. They couldn't win either.

2262
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: Neither team could end up. So is that how much

2263
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: of that goes into the passion and the disgust that

2264
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: the fans have. They don't really care about the rule.

2265
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: What they care about is the fact that this new

2266
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 1: thing cost them a game, no question, And that's that's

2267
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 1: the emotional part of it, and that's where you get

2268
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: that outcry. Look, the catch rule, it was a good rule.

2269
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect, and you know, there were only a

2270
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: handful of times where it really started to become controversial.

2271
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,799
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson play game ending play, potential game winning touchdown,

2272
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the Dez play playoff game. Uh, you know, changed to

2273
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 1: potentially change the outcome of that game. So you certainly,

2274
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 1: you know, if these calls are happening in the first

2275
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: quarter in week three, it's probably not as big a deal.

2276
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 1: And then the competition community has always taken that that

2277
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: stance of Look, there are forty thousand plays every year

2278
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 1: and we can't change rules based on one instance because

2279
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 1: it was unpopular, and that's and that's just part of it.

2280
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 1: But again, they have to certainly look at if the

2281
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 1: rule makes sense and if if it's easy to officiate

2282
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: and you to understand. But I think that that emotional

2283
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 1: part of it is certainly what drives the debate and

2284
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: the controversy that we hear about. Dean. A month ago,

2285
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: we were talking to you and others about the hits

2286
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,600
Speaker 1: to the head. The helmet rule is too soon to

2287
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: say that that's already working. I know they've called it,

2288
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 1: but I wonder if players have already begun to adjust. Yeah,

2289
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I think I think players have started to adjust. You know,

2290
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: they certainly are not calling that at the at the

2291
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: pace they were calling it early in the preseason. And

2292
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 1: I think we are seeing players, um, you know, keep

2293
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 1: their head out of it, not you know, trying to

2294
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 1: keep it to the side, try to keep their head up.

2295
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: And I think that is working and that's a good thing.

2296
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, and that's you typically do see

2297
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 1: that players can adjust. They're they're just unbelievably athletic and

2298
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 1: they can do things that not a lot of us

2299
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,600
Speaker 1: can do. So I think we are seeing that on

2300
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 1: the hits to the head and the helmet and the

2301
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: other change this year was on kickoffs, and I know

2302
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 1: there were some reservations expressed by some officials that this

2303
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 1: is going to be really hard to mechanically for us

2304
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: to enforce. But I've seen any problems with it, right.

2305
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: I haven't seen too many calls in the first three weeks.

2306
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: But I don't see how that it's a big problem

2307
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 1: enforcing the kickoff rule to you. No, No, I think

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Speaker 1: there was some just an initial concern just because it

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01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,480
Speaker 1: was such a drastic change from from a formation standpoint

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01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 1: and just being able to cover it the nuances of

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01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 1: officiating coverage. But I think now that we've seen it

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01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, I think that's been something

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01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 1: that the officials have been able to adjust to, because again,

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01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 1: that's the other the officials have to adjust to these

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01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: new rules and how to call it and how to

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01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: be consistent and how to see it. And I think

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01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: that's what that's what's happening with the kickoff. Do you

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01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: know I got one question from a listener on Twitter.

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01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you. He said, can you ask Dean?

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01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: Can you ask Dean even if official, if an official

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01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: would never admit it. If quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers more

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01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 1: often than not get the benefit of the doubt on

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01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: close calls as opposed to a guy like Josh Allen,

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01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 1: who may get those calls since he's a rookie, what

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01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,560
Speaker 1: do you think you know that that's something that that

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01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: has not just football a cross all sports. You do get,

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01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, that superstar mentality? Is that quarterback going to

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01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: get that call that maybe the rookie quarterback doesn't? You know,

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01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 1: I can't get in the Every referee that I ever

2330
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: worked with, I know when they get to the NFL level,

2331
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:10,799
Speaker 1: they really don't see teams, they don't see individual players.

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01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: They're just trying to get the call right and they're

2333
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:16,600
Speaker 1: just trying to be consistent because they're they're getting evaluated

2334
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: on every play, and whether it's Aaron Rodgers or a

2335
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: first year quarterback, if they miss a call, they're going

2336
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 1: to get graded the same and that goes to their

2337
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: postseason assignments, and that goes to them maintaining their position

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01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,560
Speaker 1: at the NFL. So I can't say, just from a

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01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: from a psychology standpoint that maybe in the back of

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01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: their mind it's there, but I can tell you that

2341
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 1: they are just trying to get the call right because

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01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 1: again they're being evaluated and there's a lot riding on

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01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 1: those evaluations. Good answer, Dean, Thanks for this, Thanks to

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01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 1: spending time with the today. We really appreciate it. You

2345
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,839
Speaker 1: gotta guys have a good one, you too. Dean Blendino,

2346
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 1: Fox Sports College Football, NFL rules analysts, Former NFL Vice

2347
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 1: President of Officiating for five years. Dean joined us on

2348
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Take hutline, presented by Subway Restaurants proud

2349
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: to be locally owned and operated. He makes a lot

2350
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 1: of sense, doesn't he. He really. I love Evian Dina

2351
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 1: and he's he's he's not impassionate, but he's analytical about it,

2352
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, and he knows what he's talking. I do too.

2353
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: They lost a good one, they lost him. I think

2354
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 1: they they took a step back when they left. Yeah.

2355
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, they miss him. Yeah, to be quite honest,

2356
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: and you don't miss him when I hear him talk

2357
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 1: about the process and what they're doing with roughing the

2358
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 1: pastor how it may be that the helmet hit the

2359
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: prohibition is working slowly. I think about what somebody once said,

2360
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: the NFL usually gets it right. Oh that's you. You

2361
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: always say that they always get it right, always get

2362
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: it right. I don't a lot always, but they usually

2363
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: always get it right for the right. If they don't

2364
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 1: have it right now, they're getting it right. Like it

2365
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: takes him a long time, no question about it. But

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01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: they get just about every issue right now. They get

2367
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 1: every issue right sooner or later. But sometimes, oh my gosh,

2368
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 1: get it right, and they takes him a long time.

2369
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 1: If you look at the catch rule, it's getting there right.

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01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's only three weeks, but it appears that

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01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: not a one, not one well if there have been

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01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 1: close calls. But you know what, it strikes you. You

2373
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: know why. I think the catch rule appears to be

2374
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 1: working because they simplified it. They took out all of

2375
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: the stuff about going to the ground, surviving the ground.

2376
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 1: They simplified it. I think that might be the template

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01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: for the right approach, even maybe as we get to

2378
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 1: roughing the quarterback. You know, go simple, right, go go

2379
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: go short. Don't you don't need a long rule, you

2380
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: don't need burping, you don't need to body weight. Just

2381
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 1: keep it simple. That might be the template. If you

2382
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: give him something a little extra extra. You're it's a flag. Yeah,

2383
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Sometimes a guy get the clean shot.

2384
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to give him any extra to hurt him.

2385
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: And maybe that should not be a penalty. Right if

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01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 1: you don't, If you don't have to give a guy

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01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: anything extra, and you still take him down to take

2388
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: him out hard and maybe knock them out of the

2389
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 1: game or a season, not a penalty doesn't have to

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01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: be a penalty. No, I didn't say that it had

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01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: to be a penalty. I'm just saying, you get a

2392
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 1: free shot. That's not giving him something extra, right, that's taken,

2393
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 1: it's given to you. It's simple. I say, listen, just

2394
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 1: because somebody gives you a free shot doesn't mean it's dirty.

2395
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: It's cheap because it's free, but it's not dirty. Right,

2396
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: there's a difference. I can we can get into the

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 1: terminology of certain hits at another time. But yeah, I

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01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 1: get it. They can protect the quarterback, particularly because he's vulnerable,

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01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 1: just like they protect receivers who are vulnerable, you know, defenders.

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01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: They're only vulnerable by you know, getting beat. I mean

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01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 1: they're vulnerable to the deep ball. It's not like they're

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01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: vulnerable because they're standing in front of somebody's gonna run

2403
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: them over. So offensive players, you know, with the ball

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01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: in their hands. That attracts violence and they're gonna get hurt.

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01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 1: That's what that's that's what it's for. You know. All right,

2406
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 1: we gotta break. We're gonna do NFL true and false.

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01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: We haven't done it all weeks, Steve. We are what

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01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: we do. Busy, man, I've been busy. We got that

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01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 1: coming up, plus more of your phone calls. What do

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01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 1: you think about the Buffalo Bills if they have an

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01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: advantage this week going up to Green Bay to play

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01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 1: the Packers. What is the greatest advantage? Give us a

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01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: call or respond to us on Twitter at one Bills Live.

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01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 1: The phone lines are open eight o three oh five

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01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 1: fifty and twelve three one eight eight eight five fifty

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01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 1: two five fifty or do it on Twitter. What would

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01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: be the Bills advantage if they have one going to

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01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay? Steve, and I'm back with more One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio, John Raphy,

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01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Welcome back to One Bills Live from One

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01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive here until three o'clock today. Give us A

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Speaker 1: call phone lines open eight three fifty twenty three one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty talk about

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Speaker 1: what advantage is if any the Bills have Sunday at

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01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,919
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Yes, Steve, it's just came into that. Everybody's

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01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:54,839
Speaker 1: been hearing about Rashad Matthews, who is unhappy in Tennessee

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01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: and has come across the wire that Tennessee's planning to

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01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: release him. So I know that Bills fans, given the

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01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: state of their wide receiver corp, are gonna say we

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01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: need Rashad Matthews. Well he's out there. I have a

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01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 1: problem with that. I let he's out there productive. Absolutely.

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01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 1: He's been the Tennessee's leading receiver for the last two

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01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 1: years and has has now he was coming off a

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01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: knee injury. So I don't know how what kind of

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01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 1: health he is, or how healthy he is, or how

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01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 1: fast he is, or how bad the knee injury was,

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01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: but he has fallen out a favor in Tennessee. Had

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01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: um maybe one or two catches for the year, three

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01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: catches or six targets for eleven yards on the season,

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01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 1: So his career has derailed a little bit in Tennessee

2441
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 1: and he's out on Twitter admit that they have released Richard.

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01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Matthews led the team the last couple of years in

2443
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: receptions and now he's in his words, barely playing, not

2444
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 1: starting off to a slow start. Six targets in the

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01:58:56,720 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 1: first few weeks, only three catches us thirty six snaps

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01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and they opened at twenty eight in

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01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 1: week two and thirty one in week three. Yeah, right

2448
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: around thirty snaps a game. That's not a full time

2449
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: wide out. It's a you know, it's a package guy.

2450
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 1: It's still on the field a lot for him, but

2451
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 1: he was complaining about not getting any targets and not

2452
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: getting enough playing time, and they have parted ways there.

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01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 1: You go. Keep an eye on that one, folks, keep

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01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 1: an eye on this. Um. Well, I don't know the

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01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: injury report comes out from the Bills. Do we have that. Yeah,

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01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 1: let's talk about this first. What did the Bills, if

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01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 1: they have any advantages against the Packers, what would they

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01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 1: be give us a call? Eight oh three five fifty

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01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: and twelve three one eight eight five fifty two. You

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01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 1: and I didn't answer that today. We didn't we didn't

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01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 1: get into our opinions about what we think the advantages

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01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. If any do you think we

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01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 1: do have an advantage in any of those areas, I'd

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01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 1: have to say that that I'd have to go along

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01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 1: with what do they say their offensive line is nicked up? Yeah,

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01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that that being advantage we'd have. It'd

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01:59:57,800 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: be a pretty good matchup if we were healthy and

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02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 1: they were healthy. But I think since they're nicked up

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02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: and we're nicked up two though, you know we got

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02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 1: guys hurt, right, well, I mean if yeah, I think

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02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 1: the Bills are getting healthier actually on the in the

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02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 1: defense or front with Lawson probably you know, making progress

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02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 1: coming back and Trent Murphy well help if I had

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02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 1: the injury report, which I don't have in front of me.

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02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 1: But if there were an advantage, that would be it.

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02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 1: But I think that it's still an uphill climb for

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02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 1: the Bills to go to Green Bay and think about

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02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 1: beating them. That might not here's my point, that might

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02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 1: not be enough of an advantage to make a difference

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02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 1: in this game. What do you think of that? Well,

2481
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 1: advantage is an advantage, But I'll tell you this that

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02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: one of the things on that list, I do think

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02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Tradevious White is the matchup win versus Davanta Adams. I

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02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 1: think Tredevious White is in gives the Bills the advantage

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02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: in that. But that's just one guy, you know. I

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02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know if that's enough to win if you take

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02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: Davanta Adams out of the mix for the Packers. Do

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02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 1: you think Aaron Rodgers can't find a way to beat you.

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02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Hey, the injury report having in

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02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:00,440
Speaker 1: front of me now. Charles Clay did not pray today,

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02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 1: the Bills tight end with shoulder and hip issues. He

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02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 1: was limited yesterday, did not practice today. He's the only

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02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 1: one who did not practice yesterday. Philip Gaines another full

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02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 1: day of practice for him, the Bills starting corner a

2495
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Micah Hyde was limited yesterday with a

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02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 1: toe injury. He went full practice today and Lorenzo Alexander

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02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,640
Speaker 1: Kyl Williams got the rest day yesterday. They both practiced today.

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02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 1: Limited work today for tight end Jason Croome with a knee.

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02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 1: He was not on the injury report yesterday. Limited work

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02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 1: today for a defensive end Shack Lawson with his hamstring.

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02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 1: Limited for running back Lashaw mcquoy with ribbs Marcus Murphy

2502
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:37,040
Speaker 1: with ribbs and Trent Murphy with an ankle also limited today.

2503
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:39,480
Speaker 1: So that's the bills injury report. What do we learn

2504
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 1: from that? What did we learn from that? Chrome's name

2505
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 1: showing up there is not good, especially since Clay did

2506
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: not practice today. So now that's two of the four

2507
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 1: tight ends. We'll see how that goes. I'm encouraged by

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02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 1: Lawson being limited the last couple of days here. I

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02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 1: think that's head in the right direction. Yeah, that's I

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02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 1: think that's just trending in the right direction. It's gonna

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02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: be three full week on Sunday. That's usually what it

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02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 1: takes for a pretty significant hamstring pull to heal. But

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02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that's automatically how fast shack Lawson gets back.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a phone call here, Gary and Rochester on

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Speaker 1: the line with a solo Gary welcome. How you doing today, guys.

2516
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 1: I think we're doing okay. I think pretty good. What's

2517
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 1: up Gary? What's up? Gary? Well, first thing, before I

2518
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: forget about it, there's a company, Steve, that you need

2519
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: to know about. It's called Bubba Mugs, and I drink

2520
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 1: coffee quite heavily during the day, and this holds thirty

2521
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 1: six ounces, it's insulated, and you buy them for around

2522
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 1: eight bucks and they fit in the car cupholders. Alrighty,

2523
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 1: what else you got, Gary Tom? Okay, now let's get serious.

2524
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 1: I've been a Bills fan from nineteen seventy on. I'm

2525
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:57,880
Speaker 1: seventy three years old. I want to see at least

2526
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: one trophy in the case before I go away. So anyway,

2527
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about our schedule. Okay, UM, let me

2528
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 1: answer the question of the day first, because that's short point.

2529
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:19,640
Speaker 1: I think I think in that case, being the underdog

2530
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: and not having moved up in any sight of way

2531
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 1: as far as um uh you know the uh I'm

2532
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: trying to think of the thing, but the power rankings.

2533
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:42,440
Speaker 1: I think that those two things, together with the attitude

2534
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 1: that our new quarterback has and the guys on the

2535
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 1: defensive side, that may be the only, uh not the only,

2536
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 1: but one of the things that are really motivating him

2537
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 1: for this one. What what is that? You didn't say?

2538
02:03:56,240 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 1: What it is? What are you talking about? Um? Next game? Yeah?

2539
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 1: What's going to motivate them? Motivation? Oh? Being an underdog? Okay?

2540
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 1: All right? And I think mentally that whole team likes it.

2541
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 1: Because it's kind of stealthy. But on the other hand,

2542
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 1: they remember, you know, like the various different shows that

2543
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 1: I watch on TV, you know, like NFL Live over

2544
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 1: at ESPN. Practically no space whatsoever for the Bills. Okay,

2545
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 1: well they're last couple of programs, stuff like I get you, Gary,

2546
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:40,600
Speaker 1: and you're right, But you know what, and it's been

2547
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: my experience with your team or whoever, and whatever sport

2548
02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:47,320
Speaker 1: it is, whether it's the NBA, the NHL, or the NFL,

2549
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 1: you gotta earn it. I mean, you gotta put yourself

2550
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 1: in the headlines, you gotta put yourself on Monday Night football.

2551
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:54,160
Speaker 1: You gotta be a team that people want to watch.

2552
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: The Bills have notoriously in the last years, have not

2553
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 1: been one of those teams. Last year they surprised a

2554
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 1: lot people. But then, let's face it, they get for

2555
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 1: as well as things have worked out in the past

2556
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,240
Speaker 1: for the Bills, with this regime with Sean McDermott and

2557
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, for as well as the results worked out

2558
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 1: last year, they got very little respect for what they

2559
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 1: did in the offseason this year. And I think people

2560
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:20,960
Speaker 1: are the media in particular on the national level, just

2561
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 1: don't spend the time going over the rationale for some

2562
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: of the trades, the rationale for some of the move

2563
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 1: they made, and they're just sitting back saying, you know,

2564
02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 1: they're just waiting for the Bills to make a move

2565
02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 1: and then they'll jump on board and do some homework

2566
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 1: about them and get deeper into the wise and the

2567
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: what force. I don't know what you feel about that.

2568
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 1: I feel nothing about. Yeah, I'm really gonna move on

2569
02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:41,840
Speaker 1: to NFL True or False. NFL True or False brought

2570
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artist and Cheese.

2571
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:46,080
Speaker 1: Been a while since we've done true or false. We've

2572
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,879
Speaker 1: been remiss or, as Bruce Smith would say, we've been remissed.

2573
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 1: N Sorry, go ahead, that's fine. Drew Brees will play

2574
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 1: longer than Tom Brady does. Brady forty one years old,

2575
02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 1: Drew Brees thirty nine. Breese play better with Brady right now,

2576
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 1: went past Brett Fire's career completion records Sunday, A couple

2577
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 1: of more records gonna fall. Drew Brees looks pretty good.

2578
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:11,560
Speaker 1: Will they play longer than Tom Brady? I'm gonna go true.

2579
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: I think he will. He's you know, in a good spot.

2580
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 1: He appears to get along with his coaching staff, which

2581
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 1: may not be the issue, or that it may not

2582
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 1: be the situation in New England for Brady. Yeah, I'm

2583
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 1: saying Drew Brees, especially since uh well neither one of

2584
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:26,240
Speaker 1: them played earlier in their career. But no, I'm saying

2585
02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:29,520
Speaker 1: Drew Brees will play longer than Tom Brady. By longer.

2586
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 1: Do you mean he'll be in the league after Tom

2587
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 1: Brady's gone, or do you mean he'll play until he's

2588
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 1: older than Tom Brad. I mean he'll be in the

2589
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 1: league after Brady's gone. Oh yeah, I think so too.

2590
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: I agree. I Now, I don't know that Drew Brees

2591
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 1: will play like one season longer, or he'll be older

2592
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:49,480
Speaker 1: than Brady is when Brady finally retires. I don't know

2593
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 1: that I could believe that. But yeah, he'll be in

2594
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: the league longer now than Brady will. He's got a

2595
02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:57,160
Speaker 1: longer stretch ahead of him than Brady does. NFL tru

2596
02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 1: or falls forty nine or season is done. Could put

2597
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 1: after Jimmy Garoppolo's injury. I'm saying, true, It's true. There's

2598
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: nothing they can do. There's no quarter it. They couldn't

2599
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 1: trade Tyrode if they trade for one, would make a difference.

2600
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:13,120
Speaker 1: Kaepernick if they brought him back, wouldn't replace what they lost. No,

2601
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 1: they're done. Forty nine ers are done. That's true. That's true.

2602
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 1: I would I would agree with that as well. And

2603
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 1: I can, you know, give you an example of it

2604
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 1: right now. I'll give you the reason, and that is

2605
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,160
Speaker 1: that is right. But hold on, I'll tell you why.

2606
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 1: There he is right there. C J. Bethard is the quarterback.

2607
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:35,760
Speaker 1: He's a rookie out of he's second year out of Iowa.

2608
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 1: C J. Bethard is their quarterback. Yeah, they're done. They're done,

2609
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 1: and finally NFL true And I hate to say that

2610
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 1: because I thought they were turning into a pretty good story.

2611
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 1: NFL true or false. Ryan Tannehill the leader right now

2612
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:49,960
Speaker 1: for comeback player of the year. You've got Tannehill and

2613
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:53,200
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at New England this week. Is Tannehill the

2614
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:55,520
Speaker 1: leader for a comeback player the year? I'll let you

2615
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:58,280
Speaker 1: take this one first. Nope, you got a better candidate.

2616
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 1: The guy that's playing this week as the Bills is

2617
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 1: the comeback player of the year. There you go, simple,

2618
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 1: You're right, So that one is false. We will clap

2619
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:07,400
Speaker 1: that as false. It would be an interesting candidate for

2620
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 1: comeback player if things go his way and continue to

2621
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: go well. Trent Murphy, this is all of last year

2622
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:14,920
Speaker 1: with an injury. It certainly if he continues to make

2623
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 1: an impact, I would I would throw his name in

2624
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:18,840
Speaker 1: the mix. But I think you're right, Rogers is the

2625
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 1: guy NFL True or False brought to you by Yancey's

2626
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,600
Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artist and Cheese. It's good to do

2627
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:25,760
Speaker 1: NFL true or false. We should do that every day,

2628
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 1: or try to do it every we miss NFL. We've

2629
02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 1: been and I'll tell you what those questions have been

2630
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 1: laying on our desk for like yes, since money, and

2631
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 1: they were in good questions they are and we finally

2632
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 1: got to him. But take us along. We've been busy

2633
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: this week. It's been a good week. We're gonna come

2634
02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 1: back and wrap things up at a moment. One Bills

2635
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

2636
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 1: What have we learned from today's show? Presented by Advanced

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02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:04,280
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Speaker 1: finest and security and home theater and the preferred Alarm

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Speaker 1: and Home Theater pride of the Buffalo Bills. We had

2640
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 1: a couple of good guests today. Dan Fouts gonna call

2641
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 1: the game on the NFL on CBS with Iron Eagle

2642
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 1: this Sunday. Dan Fouts has done his homework watching Josh Allen.

2643
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 1: He saw the plays last week. Alan jumped over linebackers

2644
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,120
Speaker 1: stretching to hit the goal line. Dan Fouts says, those

2645
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 1: risks are good and they demonstrate leadership. Here's what he said.

2646
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:33,840
Speaker 1: It's called leadership. It's leadership by example, showing your teammates

2647
02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 1: that you're willing to do whatever it takes to get

2648
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:39,480
Speaker 1: the job done. And he's got that in him. You know,

2649
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 1: he is a kid that with big, you know, good

2650
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 1: size and everything, a good strong arm and the body

2651
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:50,560
Speaker 1: to take some punishment. So I think Phills fans can

2652
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 1: get used to seeing some of that from Josh Allen.

2653
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 1: I can get used to it. I like it. Also

2654
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 1: on the show moments ago, Team Blandino, former NFL Vice

2655
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 1: President of Officiating, long discussion about all the roughing the

2656
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 1: passer penalty calls in the and the new twist in

2657
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 1: the rule this year where they're calling the players for

2658
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 1: putting their full body weight on a quarterback. Not a

2659
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: new rule. According to Dean Blandino. It went into effect

2660
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five. It's been on the books for

2661
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 1: twenty three years. But the way it was officiated, and

2662
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, and this goes back, you know, to win,

2663
02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:26,800
Speaker 1: Steve plays too, it's there had to be something extra.

2664
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 1: You know, you have the quarterback wrapped up now you

2665
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 1: lift them and dump them to the ground versus just

2666
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 1: running through and following through on a normal tackle. So

2667
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 1: the standard now is if you even as part of

2668
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 1: a follow through, you can't land on the quarterback with

2669
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 1: all or most of your body weight, even if you

2670
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:48,680
Speaker 1: don't do anything additional. I think that's the change that

2671
02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:52,960
Speaker 1: has created a lot of this, a lot of this discussion. Yeah,

2672
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:54,960
Speaker 1: it's a change, Steven, all right, I get it. So

2673
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 1: it's been on the books for twenty three years, never called, right,

2674
02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 1: you ever hear that call before this year? Probably right

2675
02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 1: when they did it. They saw it. They saw it

2676
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 1: a couple of times, but the game, you know, the

2677
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 1: game was different then ever, and they kind of moved

2678
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:07,800
Speaker 1: away from it. They didn't like it. And there's what

2679
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,320
Speaker 1: I think damage the league damages itself. And I mentioned

2680
02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:14,040
Speaker 1: this to Dean when when fans, you know, really avid fans,

2681
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 1: are watching games and something happens and they they've never

2682
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 1: seen it before, and they're like, wait a minute, when

2683
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:20,600
Speaker 1: did they Is that any rule? I mean, I think

2684
02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:23,040
Speaker 1: that really pushed his fans away. I get it. They're

2685
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 1: trying to be they're trying to keep quarterback safe. But

2686
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 1: if people don't understand that, hey, we're gonna call full

2687
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:30,120
Speaker 1: body weight this year, and you better be looking for it.

2688
02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:32,320
Speaker 1: You can't just start calling it. Here's what we did.

2689
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to put out an hour long special

2690
02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 1: on television for the rule changes, and they'll have to

2691
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: do the video vision show. It would people would watch

2692
02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:43,600
Speaker 1: it because they always do that for us. They send

2693
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:45,760
Speaker 1: a video every week, right, don't you get a video

2694
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 1: on an email? Yeah? I get a video every week

2695
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:50,919
Speaker 1: about the Here's some instances, some rules that are interesting.

2696
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 1: Here's what we're gonna do. They should put together an

2697
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 1: hour long show the NFL say, here's the rule changes,

2698
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 1: Here's how we're gonna call it. Here's what it looks like,

2699
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 1: educating before they get destroy Yeah. It's also yeah, that's

2700
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:05,760
Speaker 1: they can't put stuff up on some that's a good

2701
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:08,240
Speaker 1: it's a good idea. Good you got one, bro, But

2702
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 1: here they do. Here's the thing. It's also a league

2703
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:15,320
Speaker 1: for better and worse. It's a league that will change

2704
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 1: rules and they're not. And you're gonna tell me that's great.

2705
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:20,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna take it into the baseball thing. It's not

2706
02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 1: like baseball where they keep the same rules for one

2707
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:24,440
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years. But there's value. I think they're

2708
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 1: having rules that people grow up with. Understand you, if

2709
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:30,560
Speaker 1: you change rules every year, I think you're pushing fans away.

2710
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:32,680
Speaker 1: I think you're saying, hey, the game you watch last year,

2711
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 1: well we're gonna call it different this year. I don't stop.

2712
02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 1: You're being like an get off my long guy. No not.

2713
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:41,480
Speaker 1: They're changing the rules because that's what they're given. They're given.

2714
02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 1: They're given the fans more of what they want, less

2715
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:45,120
Speaker 1: of what they don't want. And it takes a little

2716
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:46,880
Speaker 1: bit of education. What do you tell me? Fans want

2717
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 1: more and roughing the faster penalties. They want to go

2718
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:51,040
Speaker 1: to bail at the NFL? Can you please call roughing

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Speaker 1: the pastor more? Please? They want quarterbacks on the game.

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Speaker 1: You're the guy that says, hey, you can't bench your

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback to give him some rest. Because little Johnny

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Speaker 1: nine years old bodies one ticket for the year who

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Speaker 1: goes in and wants to see Tom Brady plane. He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna play because he's out, because he's resting, or

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Speaker 1: something like that. You're the guy. Leave it to you.

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Speaker 1: You're minutes before the show ends. You get all worked

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Speaker 1: out where we're gonna remember. We're gonna remember this tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm telling you, that's it. The game gets

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Speaker 1: better because of these rule changes. It's evolving and get

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Speaker 1: getting more and better and better and better. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's the eight hundred pound gorilla. It gets better with

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Speaker 1: these changes. They're hard, sometimes they don't make sense at times,

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Speaker 1: they don't get it right at first, but they do

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Speaker 1: change and the game evolves into more and more of

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Speaker 1: what people want to see. That's why the NFL is

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Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound gorilla, and baseball is worse than commercials.

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Speaker 1: I knew that. To get him, we got something to

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Speaker 1: talk about tomorrow. Come on back tomorrow at noon and

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