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Speaker 3: Yeah, yesterday we went for a walk on the new

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Speaker 3: trail we kind of been talking about, and it was fun.

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Speaker 3: It was fun because every time we go, it's big

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Speaker 3: and it's long, and it's stretches kind of all of

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Speaker 3: almost out across the county. But I think that's eventually

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Speaker 3: the goal. You know, they like building in certain parts,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're connecting and stuff count Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: it's a big old trail, like it's in Pineville and

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Speaker 3: then you know, I heard it's gonna be like up

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Speaker 1: I knew what was going through the city. Yeah, that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Wild, right, And so they kind of just slowly building

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Speaker 3: in certain areas and just having them kind of connecting.

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Speaker 3: So it's really cool. On walking the trail, and when

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Speaker 3: you get a certain point, you'll see signs that like

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Speaker 3: have like roads and neighborhoods and stuff like that, because

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Speaker 3: some of these some of the trails are like connected

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Speaker 3: to like whole last neighborhoods. And I can tell they're

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Speaker 3: still building because as we was going through the trail,

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Speaker 3: on like a gravy like a rocky path, and I

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Speaker 2: I think part of some of the trail is off

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Speaker 2: where it's paved and it's for people to ride bikes

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Speaker 2: and walk. There's also some some off trail stuff. They

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Speaker 2: have some paths for people to walk through, like the

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Speaker 2: woods and stuff. I noticed that too.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so I think some of them may be coming

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Speaker 3: Okay, because they onto the paved path.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they like going off off the paved path and

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Speaker 2: then onto the not paypath.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's where they were coming from.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that, And so it's been cool

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Speaker 3: found one way we was like, oh, what did that goes?

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Speaker 3: They just basically take you back to the main road

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Speaker 3: and you was like, oh, okay. And so it was

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Speaker 3: actually a really fun and brisk walking. I like walking

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Speaker 3: around and seeing stuff and you know, I know these

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Speaker 3: seeing like geese and I think that was what geese.

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Speaker 1: Geese. We saw saw some ducks, Gray Mallard ducks.

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Speaker 2: We didn't I don't think we saw any geese, okay,

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Speaker 3: And being outside it's just a really serene it's really

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Speaker 3: really peaceful to walk that path just to be outside.

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Speaker 3: And the bikers are like biking around. It's very biker

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Speaker 3: So it was still a fun walk and a good

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Speaker 3: a good lott walk, A good adventure and sometimes I'm walking,

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Speaker 3: I'm like I want to just sometimes I be like,

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Speaker 3: to remember this gearing, this long gas trail, turn your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my trainer has me walking for like

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Speaker 2: need to do whatever, right, So whatever direction we take

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Speaker 2: when we branch off, I basically just have my my

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Speaker 2: on my watch because you keep you checking. When I

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Speaker 2: get about, you know, halfway through the time or a

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Speaker 2: little over halfway, I'm like, okay, probably trying to turn around, because.

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Speaker 1: The thing is I have to anticipate when I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I don't want to turn around when I'm tired because

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Speaker 2: then I'm gonna take forever to get back to the car. Right,

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Speaker 2: So I want to turn around when I still feel

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Speaker 1: And then when I'm hitting a car, That's what I'm like, whoo.

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Speaker 2: And that's that was like exactly how I felt the

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Speaker 3: And that's true. I did by the time we got

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Speaker 3: not really a sweater, if that makes sense. So for

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Speaker 2: Also, the what I think can be kind of fool

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Speaker 2: the car start taking the trail, it's downhill most of

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Speaker 2: the way, yeah, and downhill is uphill on the way back,

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Speaker 2: So when you had that wind behind your back, you

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is easy. I'm gonna do this all day.

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Speaker 2: It's like on that way back and you you like, man,

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Speaker 1: Downhill? All the way here?

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Speaker 2: So I mean that's a good workout, it's a good exercise,

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Speaker 2: but it's also you know, I try to be mindful

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Speaker 1: The walk down. So that's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why even though I feel like I could go further,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, let me stop and turn around, because I'm

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Speaker 1: Way on the way back.

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Speaker 2: As matter of fact, I'm pretty sore because we did

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Speaker 2: a lot of leg work Friday, A lot of squads

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Speaker 2: and a bunch of just a bunch of leg stuff.

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Speaker 2: She taught me mountain climbers, all this shit, and I

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Speaker 2: need to do it two more times this week. And

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Speaker 2: normally I take off Saturday, we don't do anything, and

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Speaker 2: then Sunday I lift waights, Monday cardio, Tuesday, left waits, Wednesday, cardio,

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Speaker 2: Thursday off training, you know, But this week, because we

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Speaker 2: just not doing anything, and then tomorrow I'm going back

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Speaker 2: to lyfting and doing it because also the gym won't

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's you know, got just trying to be

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Speaker 1: mindful of that stuff. But thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you going on the walk with me. I

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Speaker 2: always wanted to go out there and check that area out,

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Speaker 2: so I'll probably be doing that during lunch or you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll probably do that from now on.

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Speaker 3: And outside walking is my jam. I remember years AGO's

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Speaker 3: something that I used to do like a lot. I

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Speaker 3: used to walk with the old school walkman with the

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Speaker 3: was fancy, y'all. Auto flipped. I had a fucking mother

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Speaker 3: fucking tape memorized out started up againning I would let

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Speaker 3: my walk session. I probably want like for five miles

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Speaker 3: kind of miss doing that, and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: something about being outside. All my inside, but outside it's

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Speaker 3: sometimes inside the air could be stale. Sometimes it's inside

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Speaker 2: So I mean it's different things for different people. Inside

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Speaker 2: I normally have my smaller headphones and I have it

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Speaker 2: noise cancelation throw on the beats. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just just different things for different people, and.

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Speaker 3: That that's true. That's true. Yeah, because if yeah, if

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Speaker 3: I'm indoor, I'll just turn them like I'm like you,

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Speaker 3: I just turned everything up and just don't pay attention because,

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Speaker 3: like you said, I'm in an indoor control quote unquote environment.

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Speaker 3: Ain't no rent ain't nothing quote unquote rentings gonna happen

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Speaker 3: too much other than somebody not paying attention and renting

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Speaker 3: to me something like that. But other than that, not

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Speaker 3: really gonna have any problems. So I get that. I

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Speaker 3: understand both. My just personal preference is just outside and

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Speaker 3: I've really been enjoying that. And uh uh, what a bottles?

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Speaker 3: We have? What a bottles? But I need to get

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Speaker 3: something to hold mind walking and things like that, so

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Speaker 3: I just want to have my hands.

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Speaker 2: I bought, I bought the same thing I got. There's

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Speaker 2: like water bottle carriers. It took a while for me

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Speaker 2: the one I got, So I got you the same one.

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Speaker 1: It should be here today or tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Cool, So I'm looking forward to that. So walking I

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Speaker 3: can just kind of sling it over to the side

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Speaker 2: I do plan on watching it at some point, just

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Speaker 1: I know it's bad. Okay, It's like motherfuckers eat pizza

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Speaker 2: And in defense of Tyler Perry, I guess so maybe

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Speaker 2: It serves us well to see there are some black

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Speaker 1: I know people within my family that love Tyler Perry stuff.

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Speaker 1: I just want to keep messing going.

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Speaker 2: I want to go on Vakh with Chris Rock and

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Speaker 1: No one's bothered by that.

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Speaker 2: Of course, there's the you know, the obvious stuff that

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Speaker 1: White people shouldn't be racist if they ain't.

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Speaker 2: If y'all don't want to see these actors feeling like

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Speaker 2: Travonte Roads should be get a better agent, pick better parts,

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Speaker 1: It's like he's done shit since Moonlight. Y'all ain't watching it.

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Speaker 2: The last thing he did that y'all watch was bird

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Speaker 3: And it happened a super serve your audience.

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Speaker 1: Right, So that's another thing. But the thing that he's.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the only black director who is making

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Speaker 1: Like Tentpole.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean like, oh this is like, I don't

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Speaker 1: Ava Duverne is not making Tentpole. What I mean is black.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of black people who appreciate and respect

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Speaker 3: They sure will not.

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Speaker 1: It's too tragic, it's too brutal, it's to this whatever. Right,

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Speaker 1: There's people that respect Easa Ray but see her see

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Speaker 1: They don't see it as a check it out any

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Speaker 1: They figured out a way to get He's figured out

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Speaker 1: people that hate him, feel like if they don't watch

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Speaker 2: Yes, if I could, I cannot count how many times

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Speaker 2: a cultural moment, a shared community moment that he is

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Speaker 2: capable of doing once every two years or some shit.

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Speaker 2: He dropped one of these movies and everyone's talking about

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Speaker 2: it in black spaces. I as much as we wish

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I loved it. Work y'all didn't watch

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Speaker 1: rap shit. That's just facts. It's just facts, you know.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm not even saying that's why I got canceled,

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Speaker 1: Don't get canceled.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta never had a big audience, like half the people,

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Speaker 2: you know. But the thing with Atlanta was people that

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Speaker 2: A lot of them just were like, I won't be

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Speaker 2: Perry's I'm not like him, I'm better than him. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna make content. One, they haven't found this much success.

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Speaker 2: Two they mostly came up and jumped into a pipeline

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Speaker 2: as easy is attesting to And this ain't shaded Easter Ray.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know she's bay and my fave, but even Issa

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Speaker 2: This is fucking insane. I'm having successful shows canceled. I'm

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Speaker 2: I know it fucking does.

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Speaker 1: That. Tyler Perry doesn't have to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: And I also find it to be patently ridiculous the

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Speaker 2: he's not. It's still business, right, even when he helps

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Speaker 2: black people out and get they're doing work, he's not

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Speaker 2: helping them out like, hey man, here's some money. Not

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Speaker 2: but I'm just saying he the work of the film

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Speaker 2: spend this much money, make this much money, rents, recycled, repeat.

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Speaker 2: What I think is interesting is the people that shed

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Speaker 2: I ain't know Tyler Perry. This ain't Tyler Perry. This

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Speaker 2: same idea.

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Speaker 1: How many of them ended up losing shit because they

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the money to do your projects

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Speaker 1: cuz you're not like Tyler Perry, but we need to

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Speaker 1: get that black diversity because we see what Tyler Perry's

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Speaker 1: making over there, and we were like, some of that

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Speaker 2: Oops, we canceled it. Yeah, we canceled it. Well, why

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Speaker 2: did you cancel it? I mean these numbers say people

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Speaker 1: These numbers say we do have some support.

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Speaker 2: If Tyler Perry got these numbers, all he got to

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Speaker 2: do is subtract it from his budget, and there's his profit.

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Speaker 2: There's no white person to say this was not successful.

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Speaker 1: If he does.

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Speaker 2: Medea, if he does Boo Medea, Halloween Part three, I'm

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Speaker 2: not back hand. The box office says, oh, it made

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Speaker 2: two hundred million, and he's like, cool, I made it

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Speaker 2: for ten million.

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Speaker 1: No one can go well the projection said Disney.

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Speaker 2: Said, even though it made two hundred that they expected

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to make this a write off. All

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Speaker 2: or whatever it's He has built something that people are

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Speaker 2: you don't watch his work, why the fuck would he

438
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: ever go? Well, I guess I should hire some writers,

439
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: I should give away my studio, and I should just

440
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: let I should get completely out the way, stop being

441
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: a creative person at all, and just let Jordan Peele

442
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: come in and handle everything over here. I don't know

443
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: why the fuck people feel that way, but that's insane.

444
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: We would not ask anyone else to do that. And

445
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: it's also ridiculous. I wish he would just hire writers

446
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: and stuff. He gonna hire Tyler Perry writers to write

447
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry ideas, to make Tyler Perry quality stuff. You're

448
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 2: not gonna get what you think out of him creating

449
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: a writing house or whatever.

450
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: The fuck.

451
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: He seems like a control freak. And I'm not saying

452
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: you can't complain about that.

453
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: I'm not.

454
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a lot of stuff with

455
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 2: him that are extremely valid complaints. So this isn't the

456
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: defense in that way. But all I'm saying is show

457
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: me the people that figured out how to do this

458
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 2: better than he figured out how to do it.

459
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: I'd love to see somebody.

460
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all trying, but like I love Abbod

461
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: elementary white people could come in next year and be like,

462
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: we decided to say successful, What the fuck?

463
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: Nah, we'd have the numbers.

464
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: We've seen so many black things like that happen when

465
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: we're relying on some white outlet. The CEO changes hands,

466
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: the company gets merged. Next thing, you know, all the

467
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: black gone d I teams fired like fuck gone.

468
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I don't find.

469
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

470
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: I mean, one is tired. You know.

471
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 2: I'm not making a typical excuse which or a typical

472
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: defense which most people will try to. Don't even write

473
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: in if you think I'm just going but he hires

474
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: black people because I didn't say that. It's not that

475
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: it don't count, it do count, it do matter. But

476
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: that's not even my fucking point. I'm just saying he

477
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: has every reason to fill. His track record is unassailable

478
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: when it comes to super serving the audience and getting

479
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: the money that it takes to do that.

480
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: And he feeled a vacuum that even.

481
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: Other black creators haven't been able to find a way

482
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: to fill that vacuum. Black other black folks make a

483
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: certain type of art for a certain type of Black person.

484
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: He found a way to be like lowest common denominator.

485
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 2: And I use that in quotes because I don't believe that,

486
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 2: But he found a way to go, better of fact,

487
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: better wording.

488
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: He found a way to go.

489
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: If I appeal to the average black person, I'll appeal

490
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: to all black people, because even if the average black

491
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: person hates, like even if it's a person that hates

492
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: my work, they don't hate black people, right and black

493
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: people are talking about it, so they will go watch

494
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: so they can contribute to what black people are talking about.

495
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: Many won't even watch and will still contribute to the conversation.

496
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: That's a tent pole situation. Yes, nobody else is doing

497
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 2: that right now, you know. So before you get all

498
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: fixed to be mad at him looking around and be

499
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: like this shit was hard to do when no one

500
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: else got it like that, there was another point I

501
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 2: was gonna make about him too.

502
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank on.

503
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just I feel like in this discussion

504
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff just gets lost.

505
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as somebody who, like I said, certain Tyler Perrys,

506
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: stuff that I love, Like me and Roger love the

507
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: Madella booze. Like we see the first one, see the

508
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: second one. If he comes out with the third one, bitch,

509
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm not Halloween, that's my mother freaking jam And I

510
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: enjoy them and they are fun to watch to me,

511
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: and I agree with you. Black people are to have

512
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: the right to watch shit. This pointless shit, this mindless.

513
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: It ain't got to be taken seriously. It ain't got

514
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: to be a goddamn documentary. It ain't got to be

515
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: ours on the prize. We ain't got to be in

516
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: whips and chains like you know, but we need all

517
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 3: this to be made. But like you said, it's very

518
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: frustrating when you talk to people and black people claim

519
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: that black people are not a mondlift. But these same

520
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: black people will turn around and be like, if it

521
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: isn't the shit that I'm into, this shit shit not

522
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: exist at all any one hundred percent. Pushed back towards that.

523
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I just push back on it because it's

524
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: very very frustrating because he has super served his audience,

525
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: which is fine. You know, any shit that you love,

526
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: you want to be super served in it, you know.

527
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: And the thing is and also what kills me from

528
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: partly on the outside looking in, is also a lot

529
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: of misogyny mixed up in it because they are because

530
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: his audience is core audience is black women. So a

531
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 3: lot of times when people attack it, you actually attacking

532
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: his audience, which is black.

533
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: It comes and it comes from both sides, right, because

534
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: people will say, well, he has a lot of misogyny

535
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 2: in his movies, which I mean, I think people need

536
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: to examine both sides of that because one illustrating misogyny

537
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: isn't the same as having misogyny, although I think obviously

538
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: everyone has it. So there's no director you're gonna be

539
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: able to be like, but that motherfucker right there never

540
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: had no misogyny in their movies, because it's more than

541
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: likely it's gonna, you know, you break down anything that

542
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: it's movies imitating life, life imitating movies, like right, like

543
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: people that say shit like black men are the week

544
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: is link or you know black men or the white

545
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: people of black people.

546
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Or you know, gender wars.

547
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: You know, his movies illustrate gender wars and all that shit,

548
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: probably better than anything, probably if anything, you think, And

549
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: there are there's a lot of black men who don't

550
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 2: like his movies because they show black men a lot

551
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 2: of times in bad lights. It's some ain't good, some

552
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: ain't shit, nigga dragging down some up and coming good

553
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 2: black women, and it's over and over. But if it

554
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: wasn't relational, people wouldn't watch it. The audience is black women,

555
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: so maybe those black women don't have their own hang

556
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: ups about misogyny and shit. But whatever is happening, it's

557
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 2: not like he's like the argument people. People make it

558
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: sound like when they call this stuff misogynistic, they make

559
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: it sound like there's this audience of in cell black

560
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: men who keep him afloat. No, it's black women. So

561
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: it could be internalized misogyny. It could be some type

562
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: of blind spot or whatever. But all I know is

563
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: that the people watching it are the people that people

564
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: claim are being discriminated against.

565
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: So it's hard. He's a conundrum.

566
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: He just doesn't loosely fit into any neatly fit into

567
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: any box. And also I think there's a lot of

568
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: people that get enjoyment out of dragging his shit, they

569
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: don't want to say it right, so they try to

570
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: act like they're above it.

571
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: But it's like you watch it to drag it.

572
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: Some of the people that love it, like myself, I

573
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: watch it to drag it, like I don't be watching

574
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: it like this is cinema.

575
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: I'll be watching it like I don't think there's any

576
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: tea in the cups of the background actors in this

577
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: diner scene. That's why I watch it, And.

578
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: I just don't pretend that I'm above it, like I

579
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: can't believe he did that.

580
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: No, I was hoping and looking for some bad wigs.

581
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: I would probably be let down if I really turn

582
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: if I tune in and watch some Tyler Perry shit

583
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: and it was great, like I couldn't even knock it.

584
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: I would just straight up be like, Yeah, that was

585
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: a letdown for me, cause I don't come here for that, Tyler,

586
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: And you goddamn know it.

587
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Now you get in there and you throw some

588
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: bad wigs on these motherfuckers. You make sure that dark

589
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: skin black man ain't shit.

590
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: You know what we came for, right, And that's the thing.

591
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: Everything we consume is problematic. Everything we consume. Everything we

592
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: consume has a problem, an issue. Somebody fucked up acted

593
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: in it, somebody fucked up directing in it, somebody fucked

594
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: up getting something fucked up somewhere. You know, we live

595
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: in a fucked up world and a fucked up society,

596
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: so people, you know, we're old.

597
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: I think also, this is just the ultimate.

598
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: This is like a generational divide for me, Like I

599
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: think I'm firmly gen X when I talk about these

600
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: type of things because of how I view media. And

601
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: I call it like the tumblerization of media because Tumblr

602
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: was very famous for this, and it was one of

603
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: the reasons I only looked at butts on Tumblr. I

604
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: wasn't there for no commentary because I found it to

605
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: be what I would consider ridiculous. But I feel like

606
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: the Tumblr and the gen Z and millennial generations, they

607
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: look at media that shows you a problem as having

608
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: that problem. Right, I disagree, and I'll never I've thought

609
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: about this many a million times.

610
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: I'll never agree. It's just it is. It's in my DNA.

611
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I think showing racism isn't being racist, right. I think a.

612
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: Comedian even making a illustration of how ridiculous.

613
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: Racism is is not.

614
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't feel traumatized, triggered or whatever people do. And

615
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: if a movie alludes to Trayvon Martin being killed, I

616
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: don't feel like you revictimized me.

617
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that is art. You're using it for

618
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: a purpose.

619
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: You didn't say, hey, I think it's funny that Trayvon

620
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: was killed.

621
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: You didn't say that. You didn't make light of it.

622
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: You and your paint brush is your paint brush. So

623
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: I think we have.

624
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: I just and and this isn't even disrespecting those people

625
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: that feel that way.

626
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying I see it so differently.

627
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: We couldn't even have a conversation on it, you know,

628
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: because when they say that to me, I'm like, I

629
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: don't accept your premise that showing a man that is

630
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: misogynistic is the same as.

631
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: Well obviously you're missa genistic.

632
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Showing a character that is abusive doesn't make me go, well,

633
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: clearly you love abusive. But that definitely switched in my

634
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: lifetime to people some people believing that. But yeah, I

635
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: wish people would, you know, have a little self awareness

636
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: and go I actually like dragging and shit, I'm glad

637
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: he came out with something.

638
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: New so we could drag it together.

639
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Because I'll see them, they're commiserating, They're having a good

640
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: time doing that shit, and I wish they could be

641
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: honest about that stuff.

642
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: And I do too. And also, like I say, people

643
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: can consume whatever they want to consume and critique and

644
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: however they want to critique it. But also have to realize,

645
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: no matter how much you don't like it, that somebody

646
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: loves that shit. It's their mother fucking gem. And no

647
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: matter what you do or how you feel or how

648
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: much you say it ain't shit. You're not gonna change

649
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: with people's mind. And those people will always show up

650
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: for that for the work of art, whatever that work

651
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: of art is. Yeah, and they and and just like

652
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: you have the right to say it's a problem with it,

653
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: they have the right to enjoy and consume.

654
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it is what it is, man.

655
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: I just like I said, the thing that I found

656
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: interesting is all these motherfuckers that have better ideas for

657
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: how to do it. None of them can do it,

658
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: none of them.

659
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: No, why has no other And at some point we

660
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: have to admit that part of the problem is the

661
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: audience in us.

662
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, we have a lot

663
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: of people that have made money off of being the

664
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: anti Tyler Perry. But when it comes to making something

665
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: black people will watch, they ain't figured it out yet,

666
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: not not consistently. You know, maybe they can figure out

667
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: some combination of enough white people and enough black people.

668
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Will watch it, but like just a strictly like like.

669
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm putting this on BT is for us, they ain't

670
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: figured that one out yet.

671
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: You know. The struggle is real. They and even a

672
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: lot of those people that try to do what he

673
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: did and.

674
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: Go to BT, they should get canceled because black people

675
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: love ain't about what the fuck we want to watch

676
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: we love we do. I think it's because of white

677
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: supremacy and we're in the white gaze.

678
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: We're always focused.

679
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: On like everything we do need to be uplifting and

680
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: teach a lesson and what does this say about us?

681
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: And so we start talking about that in our criticism

682
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: of things. And now you can't do shit in black stuff.

683
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: You can't fuck, you need to pull out condoms, you can't,

684
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: you can't curse, you can't say the N word, you can't.

685
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: It's like all this shit is just a bunch of

686
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: rules you can't do, and he's one of the people

687
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: that prove I can do what the fuck I want

688
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: to if I just make something black people will watch,

689
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: not even something that everyone needs to approve of, just

690
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: something that people will watch because everyone else got a

691
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: better game plan and no eyes on it.

692
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: Just canceled after canceled after canceled.

693
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's like when black people say shit like

694
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: they watch the BT Awards and then they go, man,

695
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: I mean I watch it, but like, how come they

696
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: can't put on some educational shit And I have to

697
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: inform them one it is educational shit on BT it is.

698
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: You don't watch it, Nope, it's news all the shit

699
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: you claim it's over there bench.

700
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did have that stuff. You didn't watch it

701
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: and got canceled. TJ. Holmes used to have a news

702
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: show on Now y'all didn't watch it.

703
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: It is what it is. This is not a judgment

704
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: of you. It's a judgment of the hypocrisy of lying.

705
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: It's acting like we want everything to be so high brow.

706
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: We have high brow shit.

707
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: You know, people don't necessarily tune in for it at

708
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: the rate that it would take, and it normally takes

709
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: some white people liking it for it to continue to exist.

710
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: I love Atlanta. I felt like it was for black

711
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: people by black people. But if white people didn't fuck

712
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: with that show, it wouldn't have gotten no four seasons.

713
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't. No, it wouldn't have that.

714
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: And a lot of that wasn't them watching It was

715
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: a lot of critical, critical, positive ratings that helped Atlanta.

716
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't necessarily like, oh, because this shit is appointment

717
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: viewing every every week, It wasn't for a lot of people.

718
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: It's hard.

719
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: It's hard, and it's also one of the things when

720
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: you tell about like black people lying to themselves, like

721
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: they said, when what years ago, when they tried to,

722
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: you know, to ban pouring for like pray for view.

723
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: It was a big ass court case about that, and

724
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: a lot of their cable companies came back with like

725
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: real numbers and real statistics without people's names and shit

726
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: attached to it, and they go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we

727
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: hear what you're saying, but our numbers show the motherfucker's

728
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: watching this shit and they buying this shit. So they

729
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: just might not be quote unquote bold enough or might

730
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: not want to be shamed for it, so they're not

731
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: coming out and saying anything. I feel like this about

732
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: a lot of black shit, and particularly Tyller Perry shit.

733
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: If we was actually just look at numbers, which we

734
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: see a lot of lives of number of statistics. Mayor Coopler

735
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: came out as much as Nicholas complain that shit is

736
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: number one on motherfucking Netflix every time I'm madea boo

737
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: who anytime he put out some shit, it'd be like,

738
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: it's number one, it's number one for the box off,

739
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: it's number one. So motherfuckers are lying. They're lying because

740
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: because I can't speak for nobody else, But if I

741
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: don't like your shit, I don't consume your shit.

742
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: And it's not like cause someone in Chad said, we

743
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: don't have to pretend that the work he creates is

744
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: more than what it is. Who's doing that? Who's doing that?

745
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: We certainly haven't done that. You know, nobody, nobody's doing that.

746
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Even the people that like his stuff aren't telling you like.

747
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: How it's brilliant art, right, They just they here's what

748
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: matter of fact, this is what I was thinking about earlier.

749
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: You know who owes him a lot? Toby? Toby, how

750
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: many motherfuckers.

751
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: I have never watched the TV movie me either, And

752
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: that's not a because I'm better than y'all. I just

753
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to pay for service or whatever, Like

754
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: I didn't download it, but I've never watched a Toby movie.

755
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: But the advertisement I get for most to be stuff,

756
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: and I know there's other stuff on there, but it

757
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: is my friends being like, look at this ratchet bullshit,

758
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: look at this low budget bullshit. The clips I see

759
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: that go virals, look at the bad special effects, look

760
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: at the horrible acting.

761
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: But it is black. It is black.

762
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: Every time they show me a clip, it's some black shit,

763
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: black people independently making bad shit.

764
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: And I say, you know who they owe, Tyler Perry,

765
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: because we'll watch bad black shit to.

766
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: We figured it out to the tune of literally being

767
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: able to afford to license Triple A title movies. You

768
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: can go in there and watch the Batman and shit,

769
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: because they figured out a way to get enough people's

770
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: motherfucking money off of bullshit. And so I'm like, we

771
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: can't pretend like this motherfucker didn't figure something out, Like

772
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: his enmdprint on the game didn't.

773
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Float a lot of ships.

774
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 2: He personally didn't float a lot of ships, and meaning

775
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: that he's not bringing up people through the Tyler Perrys

776
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: Studio program so they can.

777
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: Branch out and start the be their on top.

778
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: He's not even doing that, which to some extent I've

779
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: always kind of liked about him, honestly, because I think

780
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: a lot of motherfuckers do this mentorship shit and they

781
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: don't be working out and it's just rife with abuse

782
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: and fucked upness.

783
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: But that's for another conversation. But he's like, I'm in

784
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: it for me.

785
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm a control freak that made his own vision and

786
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear what y'all better ideas are.

787
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: My ideas are the ones that prove the work, and

788
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do them. Tell no one watches it anymore.

789
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: I agree, and he continues people continue to watch, but

790
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: to be I feel like, wouldn't be the imprint of

791
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: black bullshit that it is without Tyler Perry coming through

792
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: first and being like, hey man, what matters most is

793
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: that black people will watch it, not whether or not

794
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: it's giving them the highest needs, whether it's none of

795
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: that shit. Black excellence is cool, but you know what's

796
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: cooler people watching your shit laughing at it and being like,

797
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: oh my god, they already made a dumb ass movie

798
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: about the girl who lied about seeing the baby. They

799
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: made that movie in three days and put it on

800
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: fucking tub and motherfuckers watched.

801
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 3: It, talking to their friends, talking to their family, talking

802
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: about it on social media. Because the thing is for

803
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: even people that quote unquote watch it and complain, it's

804
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: something about it that you like in it. Yeah, like

805
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: you say, you.

806
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: People need to do some self examination, go to therapy.

807
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: Right because And the thing is when you say that

808
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: people reject this premise. There are people that like shit

809
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: and they love shit, and then there are people they

810
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: don't like it quote unquote, but they continue to consume it.

811
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: They con could tell you more about the shit than

812
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: the people that loves it. That means there's something in

813
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: it that you actually like, or else you would stop

814
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: consuming it and.

815
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: Think about this. You know who owns tub? Who the

816
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: Fox Corporation? I did not do that right.

817
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: Right now, For the last couple of years, they've been

818
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: buying up every cheap black thing they can buy.

819
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: People stream it.

820
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they buy Maybe you put

821
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 2: it on there the way you put something on YouTube.

822
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: But whatever they're doing, a lot of black people use

823
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: the platform to get their movies out. A lot of

824
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: black people watch bad things on TV on purpose. One day,

825
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: they can just decide we're done, We're out of that shit.

826
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: Good luck black people that had gotten millions of views

827
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: for bad movies.

828
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: We're done with that shit.

829
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, if you've ever watched a bad Twobe

830
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: movie on purpose, don't ever talk to me about Tyler Perry.

831
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: Don't say I don't want to hear it. Don't talk

832
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: to me about I don't want to It's the same

833
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 3: bull shit, except the money go to Fox, right like,

834
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: right like, And there's nothing wrong with watching Tooby, but

835
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: don't have these higher standards when it comes to goddamn

836
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: Tyler Perry. Now my face, don't gas like me dogs

837
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: like I'm the crazy one.

838
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: So so like, that's all I'm saying.

839
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: But it's just funny to me to watch like that

840
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: happen on the timeline and then Tyler Perry come out

841
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: and it's like we gotta hate.

842
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just find it funny.

843
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: And the question I have is who's gonna figure it

844
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: out after Tyler Perry? Because it's been a long run

845
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: of Tyler Perry being the only black person that really

846
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: seems to have figured out how to make money consistently

847
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: doing black stuff outside of the studio system. I'm hoping

848
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 2: it's easter, right, because, like I said, I love her work.

849
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: I love everything she does. She's an amazing person, amount

850
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: of integrity. A lot of people that like she put

851
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: on or at least help put on that came up

852
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: through her. She don't even be like patting herself on

853
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: the back for that shit. People work for her and

854
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 2: they come up. She does everything people think they want

855
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry to do while making what I consider to

856
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: be better quality work. And even she just recently started

857
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: being like, I have to build something outside of the

858
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: studio system. I have to build my own thing because

859
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: the idea that rap shit just gets canceled. Would none

860
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: of us see it coming. They don't promote it necessarily,

861
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: they don't put the money behind it. It's not really

862
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: about the viewership or the quality because they just decided

863
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: we're selling off everything.

864
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Now I'm fucked.

865
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't done with my creative vision, right, and so

866
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: what do I have to do so that this doesn't happen?

867
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: Anymore.

868
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: And I hope she figures that out because I think,

869
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna take somebody else, because Tyler Perry's

870
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: thing is he can figure it out, but or he's

871
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: figured it out, but he figured out for himself correct.

872
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: He ain't trying to do all this extra shit to

873
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: him building community and helping the community is I will

874
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: go get this black actress that has always been underpaid

875
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: and underutilized.

876
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I will put her in my project. I will pay

877
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: her properly, I.

878
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: Will treat her right, and then she can go on

879
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: with that success under her belt. And maybe one day

880
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: they look back and they complained and go, I didn't

881
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: like that, but it don't matter.

882
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: Nobody was fucking with you before me.

883
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: So Viola Davis can look down on that movie, and

884
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: she can look down on the help, but it was

885
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry that was fucking with her before she was

886
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: Viola Davis like to white people basically, and and you know,

887
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 2: and there's so many actresses and actors I could name

888
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: like that that basically had the same situation.

889
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: So that was one thing. The Tyler Perry thing was

890
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: just on my mind.

891
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens because I think the lesson

892
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: people need to be taking this. He figured out something

893
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: where nobody can tell him what to do with his

894
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: black ass shit.

895
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: Right, and he can put it out when you want

896
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: to put it out, how he wants to put it.

897
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: That's all I mean when I say, no, what can

898
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: tell him what to do? So instead of trying to

899
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: pick apart or make him be a different person, look

900
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: at the formula and be like, now, what can I do?

901
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: What can I do with my tweaks to it that

902
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: make me something? Because right now, almost every formula involves

903
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: going to some white folks, and those white folks deciding

904
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: what counts his success for you, and that is something

905
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: he don't seem to have to worry about as much,

906
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: and everybody else is just a matter of time because

907
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: I we've seen black blackish so successful at some point

908
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: uh uh, the white people say no, it's not enough anymore.

909
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: You just he don't have to worry about that. He

910
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: and shit when he feel like ending it right, you

911
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: know which which is a freedom?

912
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: Bring it you feel like it?

913
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, love Craft Country.

914
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so many things that didn't get

915
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: this level of freedom, creative freedom, and I'm for.

916
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: That for black folks me too.

917
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: All right, before we go to the next top, we're

918
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: gonna play some music so we can throw commercials in here,

919
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: because we're also independent black on a situation built outside

920
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: of white people, and we own our own ship, which

921
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: is why we curse and say nigga.

922
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: All right. Have you heard about Michael the Librarian? M okay,

923
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: all right, all right, so I've heard about him on

924
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: the periphery, like.

925
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Through Twitter and just watching people retweet and share his stuff. Now,

926
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: I've never watched one of his videos. I'm not even

927
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: gonna front. And it's not out of any level of

928
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: hatred or any thing like that. He's a librarian that

929
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: was promoting the library, and he seemed to be adorable

930
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: and very positive. This is what he looks like, brother

931
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: with the afro.

932
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: You sure you never seen him?

933
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: I've seen Okay, I've seen clips, but I didn't pay

934
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: that nigga no attention. I was like, okay, yeah.

935
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: And that's cause even though I understand everything's happening online

936
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: all the time, I don't have kids, and I already

937
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: got my library card. He's not making things for me necessarily.

938
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: I think it's good to promote the library.

939
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: We promote the library.

940
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: We've given talks at the library here in Charlotte two

941
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: times at least, promoting our local library and telling people

942
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: about black history. That so we're huge supporters of the library.

943
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: But like, I don't need my inner child healed by

944
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: a stranger on TikTok or whatever you go to therapy

945
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 2: for that. You know, I'm good, But I wasn't rooting

946
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: against them. I was like, oh, cool, good for him.

947
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: You know.

948
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: I love to see happy people, even if happy is

949
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: just their lane of content. You know, Like, I'm not

950
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: dumb enough to think I know these motherfuckers. I just

951
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: respect the muscle because most people don't have it, and

952
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: because they don't have it, they don't respect it. But

953
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: like Tabitha Brown is amazing what she's able to do,

954
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: most of you couldn't do it if you tried just

955
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: making people look at you and feel good and feel

956
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: affirmed or whatever.

957
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: Most people don't have it.

958
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: Most people are so cynical it might not even work

959
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: on their like, oh, I don't want to. But when

960
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: one of these people figures out a way to make

961
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: that work on other folks, that man, it's a needle

962
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: in a haystack and especially in today's time when the

963
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: vast majority of the content is about cynicism, negativity. Let

964
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: me tell you what's wrong with this Let me tell

965
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: you what's wrong with this person. Very little content is

966
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: out there like, hey, you're gonna be okay.

967
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: Let me tell you.

968
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Listen, everything's fine, but you gotta work on this and

969
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: it's gonna be all right. You know, like nobody's doing that.

970
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, let's support the library. I hope you're

971
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: having a good time. Here's the resources. So this guy, Michael,

972
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: he goes on Twitter and TikTok and all the stuff.

973
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: His videos get shared and it's just promoting the library,

974
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: is very joyful and all this stuff. He's announced his

975
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: resignation to prioritize his mental health. Okay, he didn't mention

976
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: that online trolls had helped drive him to this decision,

977
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: because that's not what he would do. But he did

978
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: mention some people saw a darkness in him, which I know.

979
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: There's one woman in particular.

980
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: Who's tweet when viral and she's now private and she's apologized,

981
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: but she said, you know, I know he's y'all think

982
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: he's full of light, but I see a darkness in him,

983
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: and he said, what you are seeing the darkness in

984
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: me are mental health struggles. I suffer from anxiety, PTSD, depression,

985
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: panic disorder, a nightmare disorder. He later added that he

986
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: didn't have long in this world, and he said he

987
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: was going to take time to deal with his mental health.

988
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: So who knows what the fuck that means, right, because

989
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: you know whether that's suicide or ideation, whether he has

990
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: some severe health issues whatever.

991
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: But we don't know these people. But we're always creating

992
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: content off of the content, and people like being like

993
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: me and they.

994
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: Having the contrarian point of view typically is the one

995
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: that goes viral, right, So you know, I mean, honestly,

996
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: I think that's why you get in these situations where

997
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: you're saying something just to be different than everybody else.

998
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 2: So you're like, oh, everyone loves this guy, he's adorable.

999
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 2: I see darkness, you know. Oh, y'all like Tabitha Brown. Well,

1000
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: I think about all the women that I like Tabitha

1001
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: Brown that are assholes, And you're like, what, But you

1002
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: have no reason to do that other than to be like,

1003
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: here's a thing that's against the other things. So y'all

1004
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: will have a conversation with me about the person. Now

1005
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: they can't prove it and the other person can't disprove it,

1006
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: so you just get to be like, fuck this person

1007
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: for the other people that I don't like that remind

1008
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: me of this person, Like it's a crazy spirer. But

1009
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: this is the one we're on on the internet, right,

1010
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: We're all trying to get our own attention.

1011
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: And so.

1012
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: What I found interesting is people found this one woman's

1013
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: tweet and kind of made it all about her where

1014
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: she was, Like I sensed dark energy and stuff.

1015
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: That was the whole punt of.

1016
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: The tweet, right, And what did they do with her?

1017
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: Started harrassing her till she went till she went.

1018
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: Now, she never added him, she never like she just

1019
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: whether she said it was a joke and she apologized

1020
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: for the joke and she didn't realize it'd be taking

1021
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: that way. But I don't think it mattered how many

1022
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: times she explained it. I don't think it mattered even

1023
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: if it was true or not.

1024
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: When put it out there, that's a rap.

1025
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: Whether she was cop and pleased to just try to

1026
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: get people off her ass or she meant it, it

1027
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: don't matter.

1028
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: I know she put a video out.

1029
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: It don't matter because at the end of the day,

1030
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: regardless of how much positivity that dude exhibited, this same thing.

1031
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: For Keith Lee. We talked about this all the time.

1032
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: The Internet is mostly a negative place that thrives off

1033
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 2: of negativity, and so people just want and no matter

1034
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: how good or virtuals they pretend to be, they just

1035
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: want to be the hero of that negativity. I don't

1036
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: look at it that different from what the people that

1037
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: follow lives or TikTok does go harass people for being

1038
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: trans or schools for being inclusive. I think it's obviously

1039
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: fucked up, and the harassment is obviously the most fucked

1040
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: up part. But I think the good people, the people

1041
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: on our side, also like to harass.

1042
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: The same tactics. It's the same time, like like you

1043
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: say that the thing about it, when one side docks

1044
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: is good, the other side docks is bad. When you

1045
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: know one side, you know trolls is trolling, the other

1046
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 3: side troll you're being a hero. So all it quote

1047
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 3: unquote depends on is you just flip the side when

1048
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 3: in reality, the actions themselves is the problem. But it's

1049
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: hard to get admit people to admit that the action

1050
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: itself is the root cause of and what's happened now

1051
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: is that we found one woman to make the focal

1052
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: point and the reason that he left the internet.

1053
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: But if we're being or he left social media in

1054
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: this way. But if we're being honest, she wasn't alone.

1055
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean, some people were making it a joke. Some

1056
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: people were saying it, oh, like whatever, because you know,

1057
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: it just takes a while for things to pick up traction.

1058
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: And so now they've harassed her, which is, you know,

1059
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: also to me, not something he would want.

1060
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: He said not to. He didn't want to cause that.

1061
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: But like Keith Lee, it doesn't matter.

1062
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: And I think what I always go back to is

1063
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: what is it inside of the collective us that needs this?

1064
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Because you do want to harass, You do want something

1065
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: in you wants to do it.

1066
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: Yes, whether it's the tools of the platform just make

1067
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: it so fucking easy to do it, or whether like

1068
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: you look at other people do it and you're.

1069
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: Envious of them being able to do it even though

1070
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: you claim like what they're doing should be illegal and

1071
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: it's fucked up. But like when it's your turn, it's

1072
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: like it's my turn. Even though we claim to be

1073
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: empathetic and mental health awareness and all the other shit

1074
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people are not That woman could have

1075
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: the same question quote darkness of anxiety.

1076
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: It don't matter.

1077
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: She said the wrong thing, she got the attention, and

1078
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: now we could be telling her to literally kill herself

1079
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 2: and it will still be considered the good guys. And that's,

1080
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, obviously not the black and white way of

1081
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: looking at shit. But that's why our show is popping

1082
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: in these other shows never will be.

1083
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: But that's what I.

1084
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: Kept coming back to, is like I don't find the

1085
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: harassment of herd have made this a better situation. It

1086
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: just seemed like y'all want to y'all do want to

1087
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: be nasty, mean bully people, because I think it's just

1088
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: as easy. It would have never even come to his

1089
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: attention if people would have just been like whatever, you know,

1090
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: And on a deeper level, part of.

1091
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: Me wonders if.

1092
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: The reason people don't ignore shit like that is because

1093
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: they low key feel it or agree with that, Like

1094
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: I wonder, you know, it's like when people get like

1095
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: super defensive of anybody that says like I don't like

1096
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: Ice White her her music's not good to me, and

1097
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: then they go in Oh, so you hate black women

1098
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: or something. It's like, no, my whole fucking mixtape, my

1099
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: whole playlist is full of black women.

1100
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: It's not.

1101
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: I think she regardless of how many or few black

1102
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: women rappers that are in the game, which they are

1103
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: a lot now, I particularly do not think she is.

1104
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: Good at rap. What the fuck kind of you know, like, well, fuck,

1105
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: you know she popping? She got this?

1106
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: Like I think people come at you hard because maybe

1107
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: they feel that a little bit that insecurity kicks in,

1108
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: like maybe she is whack y'all gonna make her go away?

1109
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: She gonna am I just a sheep.

1110
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's coming from to be so

1111
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: defensive of it, but it's like a feeling of like

1112
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: this can't stand because if we admit it, then we

1113
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: have to like believe it or something. This is just

1114
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: me talking once again, but I don't know. It makes

1115
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: I just wonder where it comes from, because I don't

1116
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: find that kind of stuff. Like when she said that

1117
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: about him, I look like I would have been like, whatever, Okay,

1118
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: you think people were like quote tweeting it screenshot and

1119
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: she deleted the tweet. They took the screenshots reposted it

1120
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: tagged him in it. How is that helping It's not,

1121
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: it's not helping him.

1122
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: Or it's not it's not helping at all. And a

1123
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: lot of this goes back to some of the root

1124
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 3: causes to what we were talking about before, how just

1125
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: the social media and massing. There are great things that

1126
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: happen on social media. They are positive things that happen

1127
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: on social media. But social media as a quote unquote

1128
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: collective is a very sad and depressing place, and people

1129
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: don't want to admit that you're you're addicted to something

1130
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 3: out there, something causes you to continue to go out there.

1131
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: As much as people complained about Twitter, complained about Facebook,

1132
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: complaining about Instagram, you can you keep talk again, you

1133
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: keep posting, you keep interacting, no matter how much you

1134
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: say that this quote unquote thing is not good for you.

1135
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 3: And so, like I said, it's in what people need

1136
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 3: to admit it in the day is a drug. We're

1137
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 3: all on the drugs. Some people got a whole hell

1138
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: of a lot of the drugs and some people go, well,

1139
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: our just do a little bit of the drugs the time.

1140
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: Either way, it's a drug. Because at the end of

1141
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: the day is a tension because like you say, you

1142
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 3: read articles say that loneliness has went up. So if

1143
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: loneliness is gone up, that mean people aren't interaction with

1144
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: aren't interacting with real life people. Where are they going

1145
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: for their interactions online? They're going to TikTok, They're going

1146
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: to YouTube, they're going to Facebook, they're going to Twitter.

1147
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 3: They're getting this interaction from somewhere. And also, I think

1148
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, for a lot of people,

1149
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: they have internal termoil that they're dealing with family issues, spousages,

1150
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: whatever it is that they need to deal with offline,

1151
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: they need to go to therapy, psychologists, psychiatrists, medication, whatever

1152
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 3: it is. There's a lot of people online with mental

1153
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: health issues. It's a lot of shit happening online. But

1154
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: because your online online are rasist people's humanity. Online can

1155
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: make you look at somebody's hashtag, somebody's name, even celebrities,

1156
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 3: and strip them up their humanity and all their rights

1157
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: to be a human being.

1158
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: And this is not defense of the woman saying what

1159
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: she said, Obviously anybody hopefully listening can tell that. But

1160
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: it is a bigger discussion about the economy of social

1161
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: media and what it is rewarding because it should not

1162
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: have rewarded her quote unquote with attention, which is you know,

1163
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: our quotes with the reward, but it should not have

1164
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: rewarded her with attention for her dumb ass take, Like

1165
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: we should have all collectively been able to look at

1166
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: that and go, I don't know what the fuck's wrong

1167
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: with that, lady, whatever. It shouldn't reward people for harassing

1168
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: her to get her to apologize, go protect it. And

1169
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: what I find interesting is that even with the apology,

1170
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: even with the protecting her account. This is why I say,

1171
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: it's not really about Michael at this point, it's about

1172
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: wanting to harass her. People are still harassing her days later.

1173
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: And this is why I can't really.

1174
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Go with our side quote unquote being so morally superior

1175
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: having that shit together.

1176
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: It's why I don't.

1177
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: Really believe that they're anti police when it comes down

1178
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: to it, I don't really believe that they're anti uh,

1179
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: that they're pro they're anti prison and anti criminal justice.

1180
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: Like, I don't really believe that they're one hundred percent

1181
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: on board with that.

1182
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: Because what we do have control is in society, right,

1183
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: our social think. The government is not making us get

1184
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: on Twitter and do stuff. We are so socially punitive.

1185
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: It is the death penalty. There is no attrition. The

1186
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: only time people allow for some level of apology is

1187
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: if they previously liked you already, yep. And in that case,

1188
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: many times they don't really give a fuck if you

1189
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: apologize or not. If we being frank right, when it's

1190
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: somebody we do like, we're like, yeah, I don't give

1191
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: a fuck. If Cardi says she's sorry or not, I

1192
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: fuck with Cardi, fuck y'all, And we'll frame that as revolution,

1193
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: We'll frame that as we'll find a way to politically

1194
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: make that up about something bigger than just we like

1195
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: this person. So it was okay when they did it,

1196
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: and at its course still feels like that's what all

1197
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: it is to me. And so I think with Michael

1198
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: not wanting people to do this, and then people doing

1199
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: it anyway, then her apologizing, her deleting it, her going private, and.

1200
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: We're still doing it, We're still seeing it. Don't make

1201
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: it about him, don't make it about justice. It ain't

1202
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: about that. It's about puritanical bullshit.

1203
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah a lot. At the end of the day, it's

1204
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 3: about you, because everybody goes online. If you post any

1205
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: posts on social media, it is about you, no matter

1206
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: who you're talking about, no matter if you got a

1207
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: picture on it, no matter if you're giving your opinion,

1208
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 3: no matter if you say you like something, you love something,

1209
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: if you post it, it is about you. So the

1210
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: harassment is not about the situation at hand or the circumstances.

1211
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: It is about the person.

1212
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: Who we did the post right, and I, at least

1213
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: from the vibe I understood him to be carrying. I

1214
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: can't imagine he would see y'all harassing that woman and

1215
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: go thank you, Right, I appreciate y'all fucking up her

1216
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 2: mental health. Now my mental health is good. I doubt

1217
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: he would like that shit. But I think that's just

1218
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: you know, what people do. And I'll see people my

1219
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: age participating in it, and I'm.

1220
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: Just like, yes, I do. So age has nothing to

1221
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: you with it, like a lot of people think, no, no,

1222
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: age has nothing to do with it. In fact, you know,

1223
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: talking to like Leaylor and younger people, it's Facebook and

1224
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: Twitter and TikTok Instagram. They're having a problem now with

1225
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 3: young people actually not using their websites because it's not

1226
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: your funny, it's the old folks. It's owned it. The

1227
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: young people go because they've lived in the age of

1228
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: the internet. They never had time whatever was on the Internet.

1229
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: What I find interesting is that how often it's older

1230
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: folks participating in a way that they would say is

1231
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: wrong when younger folks do it. Yes, because it's because,

1232
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: like I expect older people to be on social media.

1233
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: That's fine, and yeah, younger people might even not be

1234
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: on it as in droves like they used to be,

1235
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: but they're on there, yes. But when I see people

1236
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: forty five getting involved in fighting with and for this librarian,

1237
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: I do feel a little like this was supposed to

1238
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: be like a cute video you forwarded to your kid, right, Like,

1239
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: I don't think any of this was supposed to be

1240
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: about us, but we're so polarized and politicized.

1241
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: Everything ends up becoming that way.

1242
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: I mean, technically the library is a political thing now

1243
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: because Republicans made it so, so I definitely understand how

1244
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: the lines get blurred, But I don't know, it's interesting

1245
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: how little restraint there is even years later. Now we've

1246
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: been Twitter's been around over a decade, I don't feel

1247
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 2: like it's gotten better. I feel like we've all gotten

1248
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: a bit worse the way we navigated as a collective unit.

1249
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, y'all have your own tactics and stuff.

1250
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully that you're considering stuff, but just in general, I

1251
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: would say the environment's gotten worse, and like Elon Musk,

1252
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: taking it over didn't help.

1253
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: It's just it's just bad.

1254
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: Right, And the thing about it, you have to do

1255
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: what's best for you. So make your own boundaries, put

1256
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: your put your own walls up, whatever you need to

1257
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: do to navigate social media, because it's very, very very

1258
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: and extremely unrealistic. Somebody's on drugs basically because social media

1259
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: is a drug. The attention is a drug, and you're

1260
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: telling them just to quit cold turkey. That shit don't

1261
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: work like that. That's you know, like a lot of

1262
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: people drink coffee, you tell them, you know, don't drink

1263
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 3: no more caffeine. That have a fucking fit. So you know,

1264
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 3: that's how it is with social media. You know, most

1265
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 3: people will have a fit if you just tell them

1266
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: to talk off cold turkey. So just adjust accordingly, you know,

1267
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 3: do whatever you feel this best for you, But be

1268
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: aware and know that these things can and do and

1269
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: will for most people. Now you might be a special snowflake.

1270
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: Nothing fucking bothers you. But most people will be impacted

1271
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: by social media at some period of point in their time,

1272
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: and they will adjust accordingly.

1273
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: Right, all right, I want to talk about one more thing.

1274
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: This one's more personal. When we come back. All right,

1275
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: let's talk about the power to the Internet. This is

1276
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: a this is a funny story to me. So uh,

1277
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: I've told this story before on the podcast When I Go.

1278
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: When I was in a freshman in college. Uh, and

1279
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: I first got there, I did. I just had my

1280
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: money from working in the summer. My parents would send

1281
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: me some money every week or two. I had obviously

1282
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: a scholarship. I had, you know, a little bit of

1283
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 2: money from like well no, no, not even that. It's

1284
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: basically you know, scholarship, you go. You can also go

1285
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: eat on campus the food there and stuff, right, And

1286
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: so I would have a little spending money every once

1287
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: in a while. And when I first got there, you know,

1288
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: guys would come by, Hey let me borrow five dolls,

1289
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: Hey let me hold three dollars.

1290
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: Let me do you know whatever.

1291
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: And if I had it, this was back before I

1292
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: really developed my own boundaries and stuff.

1293
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: But if I had it, I was like, sure, you

1294
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: just pay me back, right.

1295
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: And it quickly became common that at least a few

1296
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: people would borrow money and just not pay me back

1297
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: or not pay me back when he said they would

1298
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: pay me back, which you know, all right, fool me

1299
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: wants shame on me, you know what I mean. And

1300
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: so I remember, there's this one dude who the only

1301
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: reason I saying his name now is because of the

1302
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: story I'm about to tell. But there's one dude, truck

1303
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: who we played ball with him all the time. He

1304
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: was closer friends with my sweet mates who were cooler

1305
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: than me.

1306
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: But but he was cool, you know, like.

1307
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: Uh, and so he would come through or whatever, and

1308
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: one day he asked, could he borrow some money from me?

1309
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, man, just you know, make sure

1310
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: you pay me back. And he was like, all right, man,

1311
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: don't work. You know, I got you man, blahlah blah,

1312
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: all right. So I want to say, like I forget

1313
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: how much time went but by, but he didn't pay

1314
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: me back when he said. And so one day and

1315
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: I was it was, he just came through the room.

1316
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,959
Speaker 2: I think he may have even been asking to borrow

1317
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 2: something else, like play my video game.

1318
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: Or something, and I was like, hey, man, truck, you

1319
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: owe me the money. Ain't you gonna pay me my money?

1320
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: Like? And I didn't do it on some like nigga

1321
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 3: wan my money?

1322
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't you know?

1323
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, that's that's not you bigger, stronger and

1324
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: older than me. I was seventeen when I got to college.

1325
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: I was still nerdy. It wasn't uh, I'm not even

1326
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: that type of person to do some shit like that.

1327
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: So I asked him what I would consider be a

1328
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: respect respectful way, right, and he flexed on me in

1329
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: front of these people. It made it seem like somehow,

1330
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: even though he had borrowed the money, I was begging

1331
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: him and I was the loser for wanting my money back, right.

1332
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: That was definitely the vibe that I had, was like,

1333
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: but you asked me for the money, and like he

1334
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: clowned me and laughed with the other guys in the suite.

1335
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: At it like it was funny. And it wasn't just him.

1336
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: There were a couple of other people who owe me money,

1337
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: but that was the last thought for me. It made

1338
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 2: me so mad because it's like if he would have said,

1339
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: oh man, I need another week, that's fine, but his

1340
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: thing was basically like if I pay you back, you

1341
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: type type shit like you know, and it really did

1342
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: bother me at the time. And so I remember making

1343
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: a print out on my printer and putting it on

1344
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: the door of my dorm room with my roommate Lance,

1345
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: and was like, the cause I the Follen people ain't

1346
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: allowed in my room until I get my money, and

1347
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: this is how much they owe me. And so I

1348
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: don't remember if I wasn't there or if I was

1349
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: sleep or something, but I guess Truck saw the spread

1350
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: the sheet on the door and just started going off, slamming,

1351
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: like hitting the door, talking about he was gonna fight

1352
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: me and shit like that. And I think I wasn't there.

1353
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: I think they told me about it or something. I

1354
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: think my roommate was there, and he was like, man,

1355
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: Truck's mad at you. He said, we want to fight you.

1356
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: I said for what.

1357
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: He ripped the sheet off the door. He said, you know,

1358
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: fuck you, he ain't gonna pay you and all the shit,

1359
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, put the sheet back on the

1360
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: door because it's just a print out.

1361
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: And ain't like I can't get another convent.

1362
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then like later he tried to have it

1363
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: out with me over the sheet, like, man.

1364
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: You need to take this shit down. I said, for

1365
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: what you owe me the money? I said, just pay

1366
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: me the money and your name will come off right.

1367
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: And we went back and forth a little bit, but

1368
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 2: essentially he wasn't gonna pay me and fuck that and

1369
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: so and I said, why does it bother you more

1370
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: than paying me? Right, I don't understand, like, if it's

1371
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 2: such a problem just giving me my money, it's not.

1372
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: It's ten fifteen, twenty dollars with college students. Now there

1373
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: was a lot of money in nineteen ninety six, but

1374
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: still my point being like, just give me the money.

1375
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: It's over.

1376
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 3: So.

1377
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 2: I think I was on Karen Hunter's show, or I was,

1378
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: or maybe it was my TikTok or something.

1379
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: I was making a joke.

1380
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: And it was someone brought up like Van Jones or

1381
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: Van Lathan or something. Maybe it was on this show,

1382
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, you know, I don't trust

1383
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: men named after vehicles because like Van Jones or Cadillac

1384
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: such and such or and then I was like, and shit,

1385
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: this is a nigga named truck that owed me twenty

1386
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 2: dollars for college or something. Like that, and it's just

1387
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: a passing thing that the inspiration for the joke was

1388
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: that that this situation I'm telling you all about, But

1389
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: I ain't think twice about it.

1390
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: I just said it as like.

1391
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: A joke, right because this happened years ago.

1392
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, he doesn't actually owe me twenty dollars. I

1393
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: think he did pay me back eventually, even though it

1394
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: took a very long time, and he paid me back begrudgingly.

1395
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: I think he needed some help with something else. But whatever.

1396
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, we were kids essentially, right. But I checked

1397
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: the dms.

1398
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: For our show and I'll get it's my man truck.

1399
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 2: He's like, just wanted to say, what's up Rod? Someone

1400
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: let me know. You say I owe you twenty dollars

1401
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: from freshman year. If that's true, which I know it's not,

1402
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: Please send me your cash out so I can get

1403
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: that to you.

1404
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: Keep being great, And.

1405
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: I replied, ha ha haa nah, man, it was a joke.

1406
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: That's a hilarious though small world help you well, he said.

1407
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: I'm not upset about it. However, it paints a bad

1408
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: picture of my character to those who know me. I

1409
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: was at a basketball game. If someone tells me that's

1410
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. It's great that you have a platform,

1411
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: please use it in a correct way. And so I

1412
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: thought about it, you know, and reply back and I said,

1413
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: I'll keep that in mind next time, and I apologize,

1414
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: and I thought about it more cause I was like, well,

1415
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: if we're going to bring it up, let's be a

1416
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: hundred because I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it

1417
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: bothers me now, but it definitely bothered me at the time.

1418
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: And it wasn't as.

1419
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: Simple as you know what, like, I'm not just bringing

1420
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 2: your name up to shit on you out of nowhere.

1421
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: So let me tell you my side of it, right

1422
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: So I said, but while we are on it, you

1423
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: don't still owe me money.

1424
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 1: But do you remember what happened?

1425
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: Because I do you borrow money from me, then you

1426
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: didn't pay me back when you said you would. When

1427
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: I asked you about it, you got disrespectful towards me

1428
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 2: in front of my sweet mates, made a joke like

1429
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: you weren't gonna pay me back. Then I ended up

1430
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 2: having to put a sign on the door about the

1431
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: money I was over. You ripped a sign down and

1432
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: acted like you're gonna beat me up. Then later, you

1433
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: begruttingly paid me back. That's how I remember it. I

1434
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't have joked about you not paying me back because

1435
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: it's not true, and I do apologize for that, and

1436
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: I really do because I thought of it like ha

1437
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: haa haa.

1438
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: I know it even gonna think about this.

1439
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: And it's funnier as a joke to be like this,

1440
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: nig still owe me to dollars, but it's not fact.

1441
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: So because I'm using someone who's real name, I shouldn't

1442
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 2: have did it.

1443
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: I could have made up I could say his name

1444
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: was Chevy and we would have still laughed at it.

1445
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: So that's on me.

1446
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: And it was in a live, you know format on

1447
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: the show and just offhanded remark. But it's a good

1448
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: point and I wouldn't do that. So I said, this

1449
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: is a long time ago, and I chalked it up

1450
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: to all us being college aged kids. But that's where

1451
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: the origin of the joke came from. It wasn't just

1452
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: you either. Some other people owe me at the time,

1453
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 2: and they were being jerks about paying back what they promised.

1454
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: He said, Wow, I don't remember that at all. Thanks

1455
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: for the reminder. If I acted that way, I do

1456
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: apologize and I said, man, it's all good to be honest.

1457
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: I guess I was hurt but just didn't want to

1458
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: show it. Thank you for apologizing. I still apologize for

1459
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 2: the joke. I didn't even think about making that connection,

1460
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: anyone making that connection, bringing it up in a bad

1461
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: light after all these years later.

1462
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing well. I appreciate you for checking

1463
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: or checking me.

1464
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 2: And I'm serious, I'm gonna be more mimful in the

1465
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: future because you're right, my platform's too big to not

1466
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 2: be accurate. And he said, no problem. Actually, happy to

1467
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: see you're doing well. Brought back memories of those days.

1468
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: We had good and bad times, all of us just

1469
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: trying to figure life out. The thing is, it's all

1470
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: very funny. Glad we were able to reconnect be blessed brothers.

1471
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: And I only wanted to share that because I think,

1472
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: as we just did in these last teak saying, we

1473
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: talk a lot about it. Internet can be a fucked

1474
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: up place. Yes, it can be, and at the same time,

1475
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 2: I think there's room for interactions like these, you know

1476
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: what I mean, especially between two brothers, that the amount

1477
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: of times we'd be like, I'm all right, I ain't

1478
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: worried about it.

1479
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: I ain't mad, you know, but it's like, because I

1480
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: don't want to be.

1481
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 3: Like I was hurt by that robots.

1482
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna be cooler than that, and

1483
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, and at the same time, like,

1484
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 2: I'm forty five now, I'm sure he's similar in age

1485
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: and a little back and go, oh, that's what a

1486
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: seventeen year old does, not thinking, And it's not who

1487
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: that person's gonna be forever in their life.

1488
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 3: It's not people grow change that.

1489
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, off handily would have never thought beyond

1490
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: just making that a joke or like that experience. But

1491
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: I actually appreciated that dialogue that we had because I

1492
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that like that was that was actually

1493
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: nice to have something nice happening on the internet. Like

1494
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: he could have also had hit me up been fuck you, nigga,

1495
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: I ain't give you no money ever, fuck.

1496
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: You, I'm glad I owe you twenty dollars or whatever

1497
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: the fuck it.

1498
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: I would have been like, damn he still I guess

1499
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 2: he kept that same energy, but I appreciate him, like

1500
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: with the scope of time also being in a similar

1501
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: place to be able to be like nah, it ain't

1502
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: that important. But also, like I apologize, you know, so

1503
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: that was dope, and and thank you for apologizing that.

1504
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm not joking when I said it really did mean

1505
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: something to me because I had told myself like, oh,

1506
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: it don't matter, it don't mean nothing. But at the

1507
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 2: end of the day, when he apologized, it meant something.

1508
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: So it did, deep down somewhere means something. That freshman

1509
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: year I got clowned in front of all my friends

1510
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: over my need that I felt I was justly old

1511
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 2: and shouldn't have had to be that big a deal.

1512
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I what are under the bridge? Thank you?

1513
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 3: And also it goes to show you, like you said,

1514
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 3: people grow, change, evolve, forgiveness, empathy, you know, all those

1515
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 3: factors play a role, and you know kind of into this.

1516
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 3: And also it's one of those things where when you're

1517
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,480
Speaker 3: that young, you don't think about the consequences of repercussions

1518
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: of your actions and how what you do and say

1519
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 3: impact other people. And a lot of people don't care

1520
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 3: that same energy online. Yeah, and so for me, like

1521
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: I said, and I think a lot of it is

1522
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 3: because I'm old, I am who I am, and the

1523
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 3: person I put in online is not a fake version

1524
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 3: of me. It's the quote unquote real version of me.

1525
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: And so these are my real opinions, my real facts,

1526
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: my real feelings. And so when people come and they

1527
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: quote unquote attack it for somebody me, I was like, well, bitch,

1528
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to play a game. I'm not trying

1529
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 3: to play the dozens. I'm not trying to be no, like,

1530
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 3: this is who I am. So for me personally, I

1531
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 3: had to pull away because like, oh no, no, most

1532
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: of y'all ain't real, most of y'all out here playing

1533
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 3: games like I am showing my authentic truth self.

1534
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: Well it's also.

1535
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's one thing to chalk it up

1536
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 2: to being young, but I mean, in all fairness to

1537
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: Truck as recently as however, well a week ago, a

1538
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 2: couple of days ago, I was like.

1539
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: He owed me twenty dollars.

1540
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 2: So even in that situation, I'm grown, I do know better.

1541
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: So it I just think it can happen without if

1542
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: you're just not thoughtful. It's right, you know, And like

1543
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: I said, it doesn't mean that I just should have

1544
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: been accurate and like, cause cause you know, I pride

1545
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 2: myself on my accuracy and I know it was a joke,

1546
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: and I you know, jokes you could play and stuff,

1547
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: but when you're using real people and stuff, I just

1548
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about it. And so you know, it goes

1549
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: back all the way to when we're seventeen, like just

1550
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: not thinking of other people. That's how you getting that situation,

1551
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: you know. But at the same time, man, like I said,

1552
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, and I'm glad we were blessed to

1553
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: be old enough to let something that's small go and

1554
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: be able to be like, dude, I hope you're doing

1555
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: well because, like I said, man talking about those first

1556
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: two things with Tyler Perry and Michael the librarian, so

1557
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: many people need that moment or just like something. I

1558
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 2: don't know what's missing in people, but all this meanness

1559
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: and negativity it.

1560
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:22,440
Speaker 1: Comes from somewhere.

1561
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you need something, and maybe it is, you know,

1562
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: whenever it's whenever people say I'm good, I don't need

1563
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 2: no apologies, I don't need to do forgiveness and all

1564
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: this shit, and I'm like, yeah, you say that, but

1565
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. Thousands of years and millions of years

1566
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: of human existence, these concepts exist for a reason, Like

1567
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: whether we're gonna get it or not. I totally understand that.

1568
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 2: And maybe you tell yourself another story when you don't

1569
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: think you're gonna get it right, because I know I

1570
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 2: was telling myself a story when I didn't think I

1571
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 2: would ever get an apology. But fucking twenty years later,

1572
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: somebody being able to say something, to say, like I apologize,

1573
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: it mattered to me today. It mattered to me today,

1574
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 2: not for what seventeen year old ride, but it mattered

1575
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: to forty five year ride to be like, all right, man,

1576
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

1577
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1578
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 3: And also I think for a lot of people, and

1579
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 3: everybody has pride, but some people's pride is so strong

1580
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: that they will never willing to admit that they are hurt,

1581
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 3: that they are lonely, that they are disappointed, that they're

1582
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: you know, whatever the thing is. They will never verberalize that,

1583
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: and they will never admit that to themselves. Human beings

1584
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 3: have a great we're really good at lying to ourselves

1585
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 3: and how we really feel about shit, and we'll tell

1586
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 3: ourselves the opposite of the reality. Because, like you're saying,

1587
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 3: there are some people that go, I don't need no apology,

1588
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 3: and they really mean it. But there are Now, some

1589
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 3: people go, I don't need no apology, but they always angry,

1590
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 3: they always mad, they always bring it up with baby.

1591
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 3: It sounds like you actually do need more.

1592
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: Well, also, you don't. A lot of people say they

1593
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: don't need it because they know they ain't good. Like

1594
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: you said, it's your brain protecting yourself.

1595
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: Like my mom's never going to say she was wrong

1596
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: for blank, So then you go, I don't need her

1597
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: to say she's wrong.

1598
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: Fuck her. I don't need I got boundaries, I don't

1599
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: need no forgiveness.

1600
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: And maybe you're right maybe, but also like if you

1601
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: got that apology, maybe you find out you're wrong, maybe

1602
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: that it did bother me, and you fucking saying something

1603
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: changed something for me doesn't mean we're gonna best friends

1604
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: or whatever. But like I needed you to acknowledge that

1605
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy and that you were wrong, right, And

1606
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: so I can understand both sides of that discussion. But yeah,

1607
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 2: I definitely wanted to highlight that because I just thought

1608
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: it made me feel good this morning, like talking to them,

1609
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: and it's such a small it's such a small thing,

1610
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 2: but it just made me feel good.

1611
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: And I really do appreciate that because, like you say,

1612
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people handle those things completely different, and

1613
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 3: they handle them sometimes not in the best light or

1614
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 3: best manner, and sometimes people handling immaturely all types of ways.

1615
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 3: But I really do appreciate that it and it also

1616
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 3: lets you know I'm not trying to funny why I

1617
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 3: said it. Everybody's not cynical. Everybody ain't out to get you.

1618
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 3: There's still a good people out there. Because if you

1619
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 3: let some people tell it, everybody nobody's shipped. Everybody's terrible.

1620
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 3: Everybody's horrible. Everybody's the worst version of themselves at all times,

1621
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 3: and they'll never be a better version of themselves. And

1622
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 3: that's not always a true statement.

1623
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's uh get to some something else. Like

1624
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 2: I said, this is gonna be a talky episode that

1625
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: didn't really have a lot of segments and stuff, so uh,

1626
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: but I did have one segment that I wanted to

1627
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: get to doing it for the gram I promised.

1628
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 6: That here the grammar, here the grammar, the grammar.

1629
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: All right, doing it for the gram Uh, it was

1630
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: what's your favorite.

1631
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:01,919
Speaker 1: Thing about our podcast?

1632
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: Hmm? Okay, okay, the written one says, guess the race,

1633
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 2: but also I love when Karen gets riled up.

1634
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 1: It's fits the honest truth.

1635
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: It's me think, says I love that you have multiple

1636
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: shows a week and premium content.

1637
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: Well, we're definitely the hardest working podcast. It's not close.

1638
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 3: We have some hard working negroes.

1639
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: Okay too hard h bgrs says y'all you really are

1640
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 2: the be's means you two are beautiful and brilliant black people.

1641
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.

1642
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: Curb your enthusiasm, says I love how y'all break things

1643
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,799
Speaker 2: down on different topics on the podcast. I always respect

1644
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: the perspectives and insight black power fits.

1645
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1646
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hope that you know, like you know,

1647
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 2: I think about that a lot, like when I did

1648
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: when we were coming up with the show this morning

1649
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: or whatever, and I'm like Tyler, Perry and Michael, I

1650
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: want to talk about them because I want to talk

1651
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 2: about something a little bit different than most people, you know.

1652
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: And I hope that people are able.

1653
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: To to to to see the perspective of us going

1654
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: one more step outside the boundaries and not just being like,

1655
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: fuck this woman, she said something bad about a guy

1656
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: that we like, Like, I hear you, but also why

1657
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: do we need to harass her off the internet?

1658
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 3: Yes?

1659
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about that. You know, oh, fuck this

1660
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry movie. He makes bad movies.

1661
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: Cool.

1662
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: Let's examine his place.

1663
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: In the culture and why he's not going anywhere, but

1664
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 2: also why no one else has.

1665
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: Replaced him or been able to duplicate him. What does

1666
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: that mean? Because he's not a guy who's freezing people

1667
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: out of the space.

1668
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: Nope, because lord knows if he was, it's a crop

1669
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: of motherfuckers that would have never got their career off

1670
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 2: the ground if he was a petty ass, blackballing ass nigga.

1671
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he could have went to these companies

1672
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: and been like, don't you dare get him a show?

1673
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: They made jokes about me.

1674
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: Because people have been doing it for decades, and he ain't.

1675
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: He been a good sport about that shit.

1676
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: That might be because he's winning in life and he's

1677
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 2: able to like go to the award shows be like

1678
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: I built my own table and y'all begging for scraps,

1679
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: and I'm.

1680
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: Like, damn, but he was spitting.

1681
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: But the facts, Nazio says, honestly, the fact that you

1682
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 2: and Karen are just so damn down to earth, honest

1683
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 2: and passionate about things.

1684
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,839
Speaker 1: It's refreshing. It's just a goddamn good listen listening experience.

1685
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: You two are the kind of people that folks wish

1686
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: they could be friends with. You're both my best friends

1687
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: in my head. The podcast has been and will always

1688
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:25,839
Speaker 2: be a favorite.

1689
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: Bar Nun Thank you, Nasio.

1690
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 2: Aaron says, my favorite thing about your podcast how much

1691
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: you and your guests make me laugh.

1692
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: Oh sweet, you try to be funny sometimes.

1693
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 2: People's critics says, how much information you give in a

1694
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: smart and entertaining way is need to appreciate it.

1695
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1696
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I try to read the articles.

1697
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm the deepest small fuck in the world,

1698
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: but try to give y'all more than the headline.

1699
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 3: Somebody part of the crew got you.

1700
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Karen's laugh says, hey, Judy, Judy.

1701
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh as Aris the show says, smart, funny conversations taught

1702
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: me so much over the last decade and opened my

1703
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: eyes to different views.

1704
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:10,480
Speaker 1: Segment wise, Baller Alert, rest in Peace, who News, uh

1705
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: covid plus the intro.

1706
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 3: Music not who News.

1707
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: That's come a lot of people's favorite segment uh Sha.

1708
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 2: Rigo says, when you talk about your relationship, Oh.

1709
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: We don't do that.

1710
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 2: That much, but thank you, you know, at least not

1711
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 2: in I guess not the relationship podcast where we're not like,

1712
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: let me.

1713
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: Tell you females that I mean, we do.

1714
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 3: Talk about our relationship, but you're not in that manner.

1715
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: When a man man eat state, man man eat senate, right,

1716
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: I won't eat foot football game eat food.

1717
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: Jay doln Negro says, it's simply too much like right,

1718
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: and you too, usually make all kinds of sense. And

1719
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: because of that, I trust in value your thoughts and

1720
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 2: opinions of the voices coming out of those condenser mics.

1721
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: Thank you for noticing on Mike's too.

1722
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: Uh shit, now you know another thing I was thinking

1723
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 2: about too, and once again sound like I pat myself

1724
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: on the back, but I guess maybe that's what the

1725
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: segment is. But like, I'm willing to come around on shit.

1726
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: This is why I say, don't get too caught up.

1727
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: And I don't agree with everything y'all say.

1728
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: I felt a way about Monique that a week later

1729
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't agree with everything I say,

1730
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: so like I ain't even.

1731
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 3: No need because things change, situations change, opinions change.

1732
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm human, right, I can admit, like, oh shit, that

1733
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: was wrong, you know, saying truck's name and he owed

1734
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: me twenty that was wrong?

1735
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 3: All right?

1736
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: I fuck up. Sometimes I don't think there's it's not.

1737
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 2: Hard to admit you're wrong or get caught up in

1738
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 2: that shit unless you make it a big deal. I

1739
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: think a lot of people find being wrong to be

1740
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: such a huge ordeal. I'm not saying the disagreement, but

1741
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: just flat out like, oh shit, I got that wrong.

1742
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers do not want to come off for stuff, so

1743
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: they I think the fighting on it is what makes

1744
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: it stand out because I don't think it's a big dealing.

1745
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: It's like, yoh, y'all, fuck that.

1746
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 3: Up, right, like I said. And sometimes I had an

1747
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: IMU say problem. I'll be like, I'm sorry. I apologize

1748
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 3: for shit that I'm not sorry for. I'm like, whatever

1749
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 3: it takes, just because I'm like, it don't really matter

1750
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, fuck it, And it's like,

1751
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 3: come on, care sometimes you don't need to be apologizing.

1752
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: But I'm like, litten fucking That's why a lot of

1753
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 3: shit rolls off my back and I'm like, shit ain't

1754
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 3: gotten brought to me. And I mean it when I

1755
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 3: say it ain't that bought to me.

1756
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: Flick Chicks g says, I came here for the black

1757
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: nerdiness of it all and the segments I laugh and

1758
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: learn so much. The New Business Model says, it's the

1759
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: comedy and consistency for me. We are consistent, okay, consistently comedic. Actually,

1760
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: uh Pretty in Pink says I love how funny and foreign,

1761
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: black and southern y'all are. I'm amazed and super grateful

1762
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: for how much you content you put out. You cover

1763
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 2: all of my interests general current events, banch movies, food, sports,

1764
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: and nerd them. You've also introduced me to a number

1765
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: of other people's podcasts that I love, including Doctor Ray

1766
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 2: Winn Grant to name just one. The Blackoutist is truly

1767
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 2: a match. Love you guys, and justin too Smiley face,

1768
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh Brooklyn Shoe Base says. The Karen Who segment is

1769
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 2: quickly become my favorite because I found myself asking who

1770
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 2: as well?

1771
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 3: See I am not alone. I'm glad other people have

1772
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:17,879
Speaker 3: my same reaction.

1773
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: I just like your chemistry and finding humor even in

1774
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: dumpster fires. Let's see what else you got here? We

1775
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: got uh?

1776
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1777
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: Wait? I said that already?

1778
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 3: I love hearing your random thoughts, says T. T.

1779
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 5: Bell.

1780
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, t T.

1781
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: We appreciate that tomorrow, says Karen's laugh of course, and

1782
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: the respectful dynamic between you two. I really appreciate the

1783
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 2: discussion and breakdown of news, whether political, celebrity, rona, etc.

1784
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: I feel very foreign educated as well as entertained.

1785
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I think it's interesting too because I

1786
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 2: always had to make this point when we first started out.

1787
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: So many so much of our feedback was why don't

1788
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: we argue? Yes?

1789
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: When we first started, like they kind of I wanted

1790
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: a couple that fought, or even if it was play fighting,

1791
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: play insults, stuff like that, and in addition to them

1792
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 2: not understanding Karen's true nature as an aries, but also like,

1793
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 2: we don't do that privately. So I'm definitely not doing

1794
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: it for someone's entertainment because I don't. I don't think

1795
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: like we can tease and have fun without it going

1796
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: into disrespect for an audience, because I think it's hard

1797
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: to draw the line and if you start doing that

1798
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: kind of content.

1799
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,759
Speaker 1: I've listened to those shows. One some of the markets

1800
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: do be real, and then the motherfuckers don't be together,

1801
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: and it's like maybe they weren't joking so much.

1802
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 3: I agreed.

1803
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: And it's also you got to live there after.

1804
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 3: Yes you do them mics and red lights and dots

1805
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 3: and cameras is turned off. I'm looking you in your

1806
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 3: eye going okay, bitch, now is what the fuck was thisstance?

1807
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 3: What was we talking about? Now, let's have a real

1808
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 3: conversation off the mic.

1809
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: And it's not authentic to our relationships, so like it

1810
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 2: would come across as fake to us into y'all. And

1811
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: I think us being real is gonna work because that's

1812
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: where and I say this advice to everyone creating content

1813
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: that is based on themselves you being real is honestly

1814
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 2: easier work for you in the long run, because being

1815
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: fake is some shit you gotta remember every time you

1816
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 2: turn the microphone off.

1817
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: And you can't keep it up, and eventually the mask

1818
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 3: gonna fall, and I real you would shine.

1819
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: When we started podcasting, almost nobody was going by their

1820
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: real government names unless they were already celebrity, right, And

1821
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: so so many people that were podcasters had aliases and shit,

1822
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, I'm the such and such, I'm

1823
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: mister so and so, and it was a way of

1824
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 2: keeping their authentic selves and their real life off the

1825
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: mic and creating this persona and this product that is

1826
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 2: like that's the real spokesperson. And it was not something

1827
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: we really considered. And that was even when we were

1828
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: going by our rider its prime and say that again,

1829
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: we weren't our Twitter handles. We weren't doing this whole

1830
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: uh you know, we're let's let's put on an act.

1831
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even like uh being on camera and things

1832
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: like that. Like you know, when we first recorded, we

1833
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 3: didn't even have videos, and well.

1834
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: They weren't making they weren't doing video doing videos started.

1835
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 3: But but as time grew with some of the first

1836
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: people that was like, hey, let's do video, let's put

1837
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 3: it online, let's put our actually put our faces to it.

1838
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 3: And a lot of people refuse to do it because

1839
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 3: you do that, all of a sudden, people gonna recognize you.

1840
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 1: People don't know who you.

1841
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: Who is, and the persona you created can fall apart

1842
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: when someone sees who you, what you look like, and

1843
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: how you get down right, uh, Ali said Ali Shepperd says,

1844
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 2: I hope I love y'all. It's like y'all on the

1845
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: internet cousins in my head when I'm listening to at

1846
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: home or driving in the car on short or long

1847
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: road trips.

1848
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: I know y'all can make me laugh and learn.

1849
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you you c ce see your therapist says,

1850
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 2: consistent quality, funny, frequent episodes, a man's opinion that isn't

1851
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 2: loudly message messy of sexist Zach. I like to keep

1852
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 2: my messy sexistness on quiet okay, like I'm sure it's

1853
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 2: out there, Okay, I'm not gonna pretend like I got

1854
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 2: it all. I read enough of the books to know

1855
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 2: that I don't got it all, okay, and that's okay,

1856
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 2: But I try to keep it quietly sexist, a messy

1857
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 2: and learning about other good podcasts.

1858
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1859
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: And I really do like and I like as a

1860
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: business understanding and as a just an integrity thing, especially

1861
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: black male creators hearing the side of my voice. I

1862
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: don't understand why you make content that already cast aside

1863
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: black women. I don't understand the point of it.

1864
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Now.

1865
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: Look, maybe it's just I haven't lived my life in

1866
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: a way that has made me feel like black women

1867
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 2: are my adversaries or whatever.

1868
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 3: Like I like some men.

1869
01:30:58,240 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like a lot of men.

1870
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean it's the only thing that makes sense that

1871
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 2: they see black women as adversarial and something to conquer

1872
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: and own.

1873
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: As objects, because I'd say at least half our audience

1874
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: as women. It's not a little bit more than half.

1875
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 2: I think it's really according to Spotify, is probably like

1876
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 2: fifty two fifty five percent, and then I want to

1877
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: say like two or three percent non binary forty percent. Man,

1878
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,919
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would do that, make content

1879
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 2: that wards off women if you want to be successful

1880
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: as a black person, because black women have higher education.

1881
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying this cynically even though this is not my

1882
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 2: thought process, but it's it is. I know what I'm

1883
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: doing when we make our show, and there has been

1884
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: proof over the years that that this is right. In

1885
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 2: my opinion, that we're doing something right, because even with

1886
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: a small audience like ours, we're ever to make a living.

1887
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 2: And it's because black women don't feel like they're pushed

1888
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 2: away from this space. And it's not like I get

1889
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: on here and pander or say anything that I don't believe.

1890
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: Everything I say I believe, but I also just don't

1891
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 2: happen to believe a lot of toxic masculinity talking points.

1892
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 2: I believe there's a lot of either gray area or

1893
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 2: just we're wrong on this thing and we should stop

1894
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 2: saying it.

1895
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,600
Speaker 1: And Black women are higher educated.

1896
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 2: Higher paid, more loyal when it comes to paying for shit,

1897
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 2: more loyal when it comes to listening, actually more comfortable

1898
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 2: being challenged than men. Men's egos when challenged can become

1899
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: petulant and.

1900
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: Marriage and they get violent and angry.

1901
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: But every day a woman wakes up in the world,

1902
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: she's challenged on every single level of her being. Soon

1903
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: as she start breathing that morning. It's your hair, your makeup,

1904
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 2: your appearance, your weight, this is everything is a challenge.

1905
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: And that's before you get to just you know, all

1906
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: the familiar is all the other stuff that happens.

1907
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: So just as a creator, I don't know what these.

1908
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 2: Dudes get out of we're making a space only for

1909
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: black men, or we're making a safe space for black men,

1910
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: because it's never really safe for all black men. When

1911
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: you say that, it's never safe for all because it's

1912
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 2: always straight sis had black men. Eventually, it's the unspoken part.

1913
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: And then also the safety is measured the way Christians

1914
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: measure safety in America, where it's like I should be

1915
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: able to say somebody's gay and make a slur about it.

1916
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: That's what makes me feel safe. And I'm like, so

1917
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 2: making someone else feel unsafe is what makes you feel safe?

1918
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: When are we gonna examine that?

1919
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: When are we gonna take it a little bit more

1920
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 1: self awareness and go, maybe that's not right. Maybe if

1921
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: a white person said they created a safe space for

1922
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: white people and they were calling us the N word,

1923
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: we would not be okay with that.

1924
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 3: I' the you would not.

1925
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 1: So I just don't know.

1926
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 2: What they get out of being uninclusive. And once again,

1927
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm this is not me saying this in a way

1928
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: where I feel like I've ever had to get on

1929
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 2: here and lie or pander or be like, let me

1930
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 2: just say what black women are saying because I want

1931
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 2: their money. I'm gonna live my life differently than what

1932
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but I just want black women's money. So

1933
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: because we've seen that a lot where I just want

1934
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 2: black women's money, so I'll just pay it. Anything that's

1935
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Speaker 2: a hot topic right now, say whatever black women say,

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Speaker 2: they right, you know, And a lot of times those

1937
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Speaker 2: people end up getting in trouble because you can't live

1938
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 2: those raps because shit changes on the daily, right, what

1939
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 2: people's opinions are, and you didn't believe it in the

1940
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Speaker 2: first place, Sonna, it's gonna show eventually.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a huge tangent. But you just made

1942
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Speaker 1: me think about all that.

1943
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Speaker 3: And also it's one of those things too, what I

1944
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 3: do understand where black men go, we need our space,

1945
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 3: We need our space to talk. That's cool, but it

1946
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be exclusion and exclusionary, and like, that's

1947
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Speaker 3: that's more of what you're talking about.

1948
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think what I'm saying is not even

1949
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 2: about it being exclusion there as like so when you

1950
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Speaker 2: say something as a safe space for black men, right,

1951
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: and thus I think there's an idea behind that that

1952
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 2: is needed and valid, right, Like black men need spaces

1953
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 2: to be safe. But when it's not safe for any

1954
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 2: LGBTQ black men, then it's not a safe space for

1955
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Speaker 2: black men. You see what I'm saying. When the safety

1956
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Speaker 2: requires us all accepting and doubling down on bigotry and

1957
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 2: oppression to other groups that aren't black men, that's not safe.

1958
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: What I see people like defend Dave Chappelle on some

1959
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 2: we need to do this as black men. Whenever someone says, yeah,

1960
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 2: but this thing he did about the trans people is

1961
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 2: actually kind of messed up.

1962
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Speaker 1: But you can't take a joke, okay, So let's not

1963
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Speaker 1: call this a safe space.

1964
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Speaker 2: That's not what it is. That's not what we're really

1965
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Speaker 2: making over here. So that's what I'm getting that is

1966
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Speaker 2: that because by saying something is a safe space for people,

1967
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: it's almost always exclusionary.

1968
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Speaker 1: Right. It means some.

1969
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Speaker 2: People aren't gonna be allowed around because we consider them dangerous,

1970
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 2: a toxic. Who are people not allowed around in this

1971
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 2: black man safe space? A lot of times it varies

1972
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Speaker 2: and it's not always consistent, and I can't always agree

1973
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Speaker 2: with that, So you see what I'm saying. So like,

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Speaker 2: if women women are allowed as long as you know

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Speaker 2: they ain't got no problem with us calling them bitches

1976
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 2: and and hoes and talking down on them and are.

1977
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Speaker 1: Then it's safe.

1978
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: It's like, well that doesn't That's not a space I

1979
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: would like to be a part of, and it's not

1980
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Speaker 2: what I would consider safe. I don't need that kind

1981
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Speaker 2: of safety, you know. So I think that's what I

1982
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: mean by that idea. But people obviously have been able

1983
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: to create these kind of shows and been successful, So

1984
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they can't be successful. Just when you

1985
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 2: come here and you hear a person that's not talking

1986
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 2: like that as a dude, it's partially because I just

1987
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,759
Speaker 2: don't in generally delight in that type of community with folks,

1988
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 2: but also just.

1989
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Speaker 1: It's a bad idea. It's not a good idea unless

1990
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Speaker 1: you just want some insul ask you motherfuckers that don't

1991
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: pay for shit. It's a bad business idea on top

1992
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: of you being a bad person, all.

1993
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Speaker 3: Right, right, all right? And one mother thing when used

1994
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 3: talking about black women, also the thing about black women.

1995
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 3: Black women have been trained from a really really early

1996
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Speaker 3: age to give, to give of ourselves, to give up

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Speaker 3: our bodies, to give up our time, to give up

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Speaker 3: our talents, to give it all to the black community,

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01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 3: to give it to our men, to give it to

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Speaker 3: our children, to just give it all, motherfucking away, no

2001
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 3: matter how much it exhausts you, no matter to if

2002
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 3: you get the person you're giving it to can and

2003
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 3: will and sometimes does take your life whatever it takes.

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01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,839
Speaker 3: You are the person that has to sacrifice, you alone

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01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 3: and quote unquote and nobody else. And so when it

2006
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 3: comes to donating, we're actually trained to donate. So it

2007
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 3: actually behooves you, no matter what platform you are, particularly

2008
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 3: if you're talking in black women, to actually understand that

2009
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 3: we're going to be the person to donate. We're gonna

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01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: be the person to give give up our time and

2011
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 3: our talents. We're gonna be the person that's most likely

2012
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 3: to talk to our friends and family about it because

2013
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 3: we know what women have that a lot of straight

2014
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 3: men don't have its social circles well where it's not

2015
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 3: surface level, where I played with this dude for twenty

2016
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 3: five years, but I don't know his real motherfucking name.

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01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 3: Like women actually get to know each other and shit

2018
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 3: like this, like the relationships that we cater.

2019
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you like this, if I played

2020
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 2: basketball with this dude for twenty five years, I actually

2021
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 2: don't need to know his real name. Your game tells

2022
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 2: you everything can Okay, now you might not understand that,

2023
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:35,839
Speaker 2: but I know everything about the motherfucker.

2024
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 1: I played basketball with him long enough. I'll be like

2025
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: that motherfucker don't take care of his kids. And it's like,

2026
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: how you know that? Why he shot that three?

2027
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 3: No way he shot that three. It does you a

2028
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 3: lot doing it.

2029
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just saying I dream too.

2030
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Says your personalities, your opinions, your comedy, the fo both

2031
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 2: of you. Thank you, Manhattan Jones sound like a card shark,

2032
01:38:59,040 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: Manhattan Jones.

2033
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: Boy, y'all better put them pool cues away.

2034
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 3: Manhattan Jones is here. I'm trying to tell him in

2035
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 3: the Gang gonna fuck us out?

2036
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Man hun Jones played the devil for a soul in

2037
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 1: nine Ball and he won Moster. Right, man Hunting Jones

2038
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: on like a pimp. Right, you don't want to fuck

2039
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: with the man, Well, you better get out of here.

2040
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:25,759
Speaker 3: Manhattan Jones looking for you, right, I don't want no problems.

2041
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Like I love your chemistry and the topics. It feels

2042
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 2: like a conversation with friends, I mean my real friends.

2043
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 2: I think that we y'all and I are real friends.

2044
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:35,839
Speaker 2: I love the comedic experience.

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01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2046
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 2: Allegra says, I love love the intro jams. My favorite

2047
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 2: is LGBTQ news jam. I dance hit the fifteen second,

2048
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: rewind times three and then dance again, and the Black

2049
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 2: Capitalists intro is so good. I also love that you

2050
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 2: ninety percent of time talk about shit that I'm talking

2051
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 2: about with my friends in private. It's as if you

2052
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 2: two are sitting at kate.

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01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: Ken with us. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that was a.

2054
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: Decision too, like to be able to have a space

2055
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 2: that you can kind of bring the group chat, you know.

2056
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 2: I think that's why people really love when we have

2057
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 2: like a bossy or Ray Sani or Nicole or.

2058
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 1: Like people that I even justin people that.

2059
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 2: I talk to all the time, and we go back

2060
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 2: and forth, and I don't think it's necessarily that we're

2061
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 2: breaking new ground. It's just we we talk in private

2062
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 2: enough that we don't have any pretenses and we have

2063
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: good faith, understanding and respect for each other, right, and

2064
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: so we sound like a group chat. We sound like

2065
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 2: how people really talk when they're not worried about some

2066
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 2: stranger quote tweeting it out of context.

2067
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: And you could just be like, no, I know what

2068
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: you mean when.

2069
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: You said I keep going back to this example, but

2070
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 2: it's just one of my friends keep saying this. But

2071
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 2: it's like, it's like, I understand what you mean when

2072
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 2: you say you don't like ice spice, and you're not

2073
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 2: trying to like tear down a black woman. You just

2074
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: think she's not good at wrap. You don't have to

2075
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 2: worry us. We can have that conversation privately. No one's

2076
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 2: gonna be on Twitter, like look at the massage noir

2077
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 2: right in this conversation they hate black women over here, Like,

2078
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about that because we have

2079
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 2: an understanding of like you're you're not that kind of person.

2080
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 3: You know, all right? Uh?

2081
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 2: And I hope that people get that energy from the podcast.

2082
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 2: You know, let's see mss Barnes says, I'm always down

2083
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 2: for Guess the Racers. Reminds me that Florida has a

2084
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 2: wonderful dump has a wonderful dumpster fire aesthetic.

2085
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

2086
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 2: Lay Love says, when Karen be knowing and when Karen

2087
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 2: don't be knowing aka the who segment also Guess the Race?

2088
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 3: See I know and then I don't know? See. dB

2089
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 3: Man says, get a woman that can do both. No

2090
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 3: one don't know.

2091
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: dB Man says, my favorite thing other than that love

2092
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: and respect you show each other is how you're willing

2093
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: to change your views when presented with new infos. A

2094
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: lot of podcasters don't I know. I'll be watching them,

2095
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 1: y'all I listen to I'll be like, what, but you're

2096
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: clearly wrong.

2097
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 2: The Alexandria you says, while the while the guest the

2098
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 2: race and soar actions are so funny. I love that

2099
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 2: y'all look at topics and provide different perspectives. And I

2100
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 2: still remember Karen talked about parents not being obligated to

2101
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 2: learn about that child, but the child has to learn

2102
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 2: their parents to survive. The time Rod broke down how

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01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: the South hast strong ties with the Democratic Party through

2104
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 2: the civil rights movement during the primaries of twenty twenty

2105
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 2: and while he.

2106
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Speaker 1: Will always vote blue.

2107
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 2: My friends think I'm so smart, but I just bring

2108
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 2: up topics I learned from your podcast.

2109
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: Hey listen, okay, were smart? Day, were all smart? It's

2110
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: like this smart person to know the past this long

2111
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:36,839
Speaker 1: come on, it's a group project.

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2113
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 2: Now they can never listen. You can't reckon me because

2114
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh you just getting this.

2115
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, don't don't tell me the secrets now

2116
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 3: you can't be doing that.

2117
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 1: Very insightful and funny.

2118
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 2: The chemistry with all the guests is probably one of

2119
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 2: the best I've seen on any podcast.

2120
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

2121
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 2: Uh Degal seven O four says that's seven. There's so

2122
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 2: much to choose from. I think it's your consistency and

2123
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 2: providing a great product. You are for so much. All

2124
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: your podcasts are excellent. Plus y'all just good people. All

2125
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 2: black Widow when I want to says that y'all are

2126
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 2: unapologetically you. I love the segments and even has my

2127
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 2: twenty one year old yelling folding chill. You make our

2128
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 2: commute in front of it funny, thank you, thank you.

2129
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have hep route for me because sometimes i'd

2130
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 3: be forgetting child.

2131
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like Karen's pretty apologetically herself.

2132
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm.

2133
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,520
Speaker 3: Apologetically should I apologizing?

2134
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't need to, so I'm sorry, And I'm like,

2135
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 2: I don't know why you're apologizing.

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01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 1: DJ Java says it's obviously the host.

2137
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 2: L Elise says the bulletball explanations at Justin and Year

2138
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 2: in Review countdown, Oh thank you, thank you. Glad we

2139
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 2: brought that back this year. I'm gonna try to keep

2140
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 2: it up in the future. And last one, oh wait,

2141
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 2: I feel says uh oh, I think she left two comments.

2142
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 1: This must to be a second one.

2143
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: I plan on listening and definitely we'll see her first

2144
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 2: one laterally for us, it's out of order on Instagram.

2145
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 2: Film Wonderer says, y'all are unapologetically yourself show, always honest

2146
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 2: and authentic. Also, y'all never ever, ever, ever stray away

2147
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 2: from blackness on any topic, especially movies.

2148
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:16,799
Speaker 5: Thank you.

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01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 2: Man, Listen, somebody got put on for us, somebody got

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Speaker 2: to I just white label American says, I just love y'all.

2152
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,679
Speaker 2: And how y'all saved a hustle like me. I'm delivered

2153
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 2: and I NFT no more. You know, I hadn't even noticed,

2154
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 2: but you have not been leaving chats about the NFT

2155
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 2: and the hustles for a while. For you, brother, y'all

2156
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 2: keeping it one hundred with your segments from Guessing the

2157
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 2: Race they trying to steal elections, White People News, Gender Wars,

2158
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 2: LGBTQY News with the ultimate sword ratchingness is one of

2159
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: the reasons why y'all is the best podcast in the world.

2160
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 2: Y'all true nerves to love and respect always.

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01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: This has been good. Thank y'all for this. This is fun.

2162
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm just never don b says I love knowing I

2163
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: could turn on any episode that unwired from a hectic

2164
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:02,919
Speaker 2: day and get some last information.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Both for your consistency. Thank you stay flow

2166
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 1: in of the Ben says, your love for each other,

2167
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 1: your honesty, openness, the fact that you spit facts, the

2168
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: fact y'all are funny as hell, And my favorite moment

2169
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: when Karen said, I'm not Lulu living, I'll call the

2170
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: police on your black ass. People have quoted that a lot.

2171
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: I've seen that places.

2172
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the same in different places

2173
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 2: or what, but apparently that resonated with somebody. Ipia's mom

2174
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 2: says only one I can't. One, You're both smart, funny,

2175
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 2: have empathy for humans too. When you made a mistake,

2176
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: you can admit it. Three you are cool about stuff.

2177
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 2: Four you are willing to try new things. Five even

2178
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 2: a white European lady is welcome. And then back up.

2179
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,839
Speaker 1: To six where she said, uh, I plan on listening definitely,

2180
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: So thank you, Apia, And yeah, we welcome everybody. I mean,

2181
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 1: you know it is what it is.

2182
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:03,520
Speaker 2: We don't it's a show for black people, but obviously

2183
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 2: I feel like the power of blacknesses that is universal

2184
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 2: mm hmm, and that we still make a show for us,

2185
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 2: but everyone can relate to something being for them. I

2186
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 2: think that's where a lot of black creators fuck up

2187
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 2: is that they get so they be concentrated so hard

2188
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 2: on like how we gonna get these white people? How

2189
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 2: are we gonna get these white people? How we gonna

2190
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 2: get these white people? It's all our opinions need to

2191
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 2: consider what white people think we need to. I don't

2192
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 2: want to say this joke because there's certain white people

2193
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 2: that don't understand how racism works, and they'll be like,

2194
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 2: this is racist against me and shit, And at the

2195
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm like, why do you really

2196
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 2: believe that?

2197
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 1: Haven't we had enough proof that's not true.

2198
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 2: We have proof of so much black shit made for

2199
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 2: us becoming universal globalized and in many cases of cannibalized,

2200
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 2: but definitely globalized first.

2201
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't.

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01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

2203
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't believe in it. I think we white people

2204
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 1: can listen.

2205
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 2: It's just it's like Bomani always says, I got more

2206
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 2: faith than y'all than some of y'all do, cause I'm like,

2207
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 2: I don't think we need to change a goddamn thing

2208
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 2: about what we say, and white folks will understand, you know. Yeah,

2209
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 2: Chief Steve says, I like when Justin starts acting too

2210
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 2: high and mighty and then riots to remind him at

2211
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 2: that time, he had to call twelve on him at

2212
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,799
Speaker 2: the why And sometimes he'd be acting real light skin.

2213
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Acting out different and shit, yeah, he'll admit it himself.

2214
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: I had to get the folks involved.

2215
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 2: I still get mad about that the opposite way, cause

2216
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, why, y'all niggas start acting like y'all can

2217
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 2: understand when this white man came in with.

2218
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: A badge, he ain't saying shit.

2219
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 3: I didn't say the same shit. Now y'all listening, y'all,

2220
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 3: that's fucked up.

2221
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 1: I was getting paid.

2222
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 2: I was there as a fucking employee, being like brother,

2223
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: and I wasn't doing.

2224
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 1: No, Like like the cops come in. They just be like,

2225
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: all right, listen, niggers.

2226
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 2: But when I came in, I was all like, my brothers,

2227
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 2: my good brothers. We can't we just get a brothers, please, can.

2228
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: We talk this up?

2229
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 3: And they was like no, They was mushing me in

2230
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 3: my face, Shut up, bitch.

2231
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 1: I get out of here, homeboy, kill yourself, fool. I'm

2232
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: like what I'm like, brothers, don't make me have to

2233
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: get the white man. Go get them, I know.

2234
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden it was like they looked

2235
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 3: at you and the cop coming like berth, you're wrong.

2236
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: As soon as the cock came in, there was like

2237
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: what seems to be the problem officer. Fuck y'all, man,

2238
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: I was fucked up and a couple of du was

2239
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: My real friends included like damn man. Oh anyway, I'm

2240
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 1: a raccoon, says Karen screams.

2241
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 2: Karen Langston says, y'all always made me think deeper about

2242
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 2: what's going on in the world. Help me become more

2243
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 2: pragmatic about things I care about. Also, y'all funny as hell,

2244
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 2: and I'm real dogmatic about that.

2245
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 3: That's let's come dogmatic. We gonna get dogmatic in a dictionary.

2246
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Black Beer Traveler says, guess the race and the irony

2247
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 2: of making bitter a segment see you you know ball

2248
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 2: you picked up on oh in the conversation based on

2249
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 2: comedy while still having intentionality.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay Brandow thoughts from the package I'm making

2251
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: art here, Okay.

2252
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 2: Don't need to say the quiet parts out loud. Those

2253
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 2: who know will get it.

2254
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: Just they real all the TJBB says all the last,

2255
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: it's too crazy out here in these streets, so we

2256
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: gotta laugh more.

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01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 3: Chad, you better.

2258
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 2: It's so crazy in these streets, y'all. Every day on

2259
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 2: Facebook reels, I'll be looking at the streets.

2260
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:31,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy what's happening in these streets.

2261
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 3: Y'all about Sometimes I don't be paying attention to the streets.

2262
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 2: People going messing with alligators in the streets. Okay, you

2263
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: allowed people getting in car accidents in the streets, okay,

2264
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 2: people buying people Apple Vision pros and then demanding some

2265
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:46,560
Speaker 2: of that.

2266
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 1: Meeting these streets. Streets is fucked up.

2267
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are.

2268
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 1: AJ twenty three fifty three says the chemistry between you

2269
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: two and how you keep messing up Louisiana names. Am

2270
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,679
Speaker 1: I messing them up? Or are they for people?

2271
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 2: That's come on, y'all, y'all know y'all can speak it.

2272
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 2: Y'all could phonetically put that ship in the article. Y'all

2273
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 2: know I'm not from down there. And then y'all right

2274
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 2: in with the light. It's funny how you called this

2275
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 2: street such and such, but you get you don't spell

2276
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 2: it phonetically, so I'm just saying it again. I'm like,

2277
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 2: y'all know how the alphabet supposed to work y'all mixed

2278
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 2: French in.

2279
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: And then try to like everybody else in the world

2280
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: is done, okay, Christopher Chrystal. And it's not even real

2281
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 1: French French. It's like that the dude that used to

2282
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: have that Sean Pbs that poured twelve glass of wine

2283
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: in his soup. It's that kind of French.

2284
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 3: Ah that dude. Yes, I remember hear that. That was

2285
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 3: an old white dude. Yeah, get a crawl dad, And

2286
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all see what's big and had glasses? I

2287
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 3: remember that old white man. I don't even know that

2288
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:51,679
Speaker 3: man siting.

2289
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: Is that even French? What is that?

2290
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 2: I can't put that in the dictionary either. I've been

2291
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 2: hypnotizing the saying. Karen be Knowing, says Christophe CEV. Earth

2292
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 2: Seed says in earth Seed, you go back to the

2293
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,879
Speaker 2: guys and the Earth. I'll see you over there, five.

2294
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: Or center h CV.

2295
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:13,560
Speaker 2: Earth Seed says Informed, funny time Land, all around, delightful.

2296
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: I love the segments, even those that have been retired,

2297
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:20,719
Speaker 2: like reading Rainbow, Great Guests, love of reviews of popular shows,

2298
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 2: love Craft, Country, Game of Throngs, just too much, et cetera.

2299
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 2: I hope you both received all the flowers accolades that

2300
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 2: you received, y'all do the dog gone thing.

2301
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh, thank you.

2302
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 2: Wes Holland says the yearly bullet ball orientation and the

2303
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 2: way y'all new segments get added organically and get the

2304
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: perfect theme music in three days.

2305
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: That's on the fucking fan.

2306
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's on the fans. We ask and they deliver.

2307
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 2: It's amazing how talented these motherfucker I'll never shit, I'll

2308
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 2: never not be impressed by how talented, because I'll be like, man,

2309
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 2: you don't make the show better?

2310
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 3: Is this?

2311
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 2: But it be some shit I can't do, Like I

2312
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 2: can't do that shit. I'm like, man, wish you had

2313
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 2: some a segment, a new segment song for this and

2314
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 2: somebody will be like, boom, what about this?

2315
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: In a day?

2316
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 2: Crazy Black Women's Stitch says store ratchiness is very strong category.

2317
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: Guess the race is great till at the end of

2318
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 2: the day is y'all? We love y'all.

2319
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: As somebody replied my favorite segment, Preacher b B says

2320
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: very informal of live and thoughtful, doll ou thank you.

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01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 1: Stone b D says Karen is my favorite part of

2322
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 1: the show. Her energy is contagious. Just got to hear

2323
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: her laugh and my day is already better. Love you too,

2324
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 1: No as Stone b D, I ain't mad at you.

2325
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: I also this is gonna shock everybody. Huge fan of

2326
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,679
Speaker 1: Can You Don't Say?

2327
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 2: Might be my favorite part during the show, just saying

2328
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 2: how insecure would Nigga have to be to be like, Nigga,

2329
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 2: you think my wife better than me on the show?

2330
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 3: What ask somebody? When we first started the show, looked

2331
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 3: at Roger going, I don't even know, you know, because

2332
01:52:58,640 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 3: I told him. I was like, you know what I

2333
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 3: can do? I can't put duced right am? I produced?

2334
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 3: The hell is this?

2335
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 2: We only have this many episodes because I tricked into

2336
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 2: doing it, and I'm fine with that he.

2337
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 3: Did because he kept the name because we probably would

2338
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 3: have been like called a Rod and Karen showing some shit.

2339
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 3: But I was like, I don't even know if I'm

2340
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 3: gonna do this.

2341
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 6: Uh.

2342
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 2: When you and Karen talk about the importance of voting

2343
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 2: on how the South live in Georgia, by the way

2344
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 2: of by the way of Florida, it's being underrepresented in

2345
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 2: the federal election that we give out the biggest turnout,

2346
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 2: understanding that black men's voices should be amplified, especially in

2347
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: this election. I look to you guys for that kind

2348
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 2: of commentary for our community.

2349
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, gamb Babies. Appreciate you.

2350
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: And I'm still mad that which black man voices is

2351
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 2: getting elevated because I.

2352
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 3: Don't know how.

2353
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 2: I saw Michael Harriet tweeted today or yesterday like he

2354
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 2: spent the weekend in South Carolina trying to find a

2355
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 2: story of black men who weren't gonna vote for Biden,

2356
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 2: and he couldn't find any because there's not a lot

2357
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 2: of them. There's not stop spreading that line right, not

2358
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 2: saying they're zero, but this idea that we gonna be

2359
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 2: the people that let him down.

2360
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on.

2361
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 3: Man, less than half of a percentage point here.

2362
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 2: I think it's wishful thinking. I really think they really

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Speaker 2: want like it's click bait. They want that number to

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Speaker 2: go up. They keep they over here, y'all giving us nothing,

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01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 2: by the way, like whatever you accuse the Democrats of doing,

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01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 2: the Republicans are doing their worse when it comes to

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01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 2: giving black people nothing about but demanding we vote fuck them,

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Speaker 2: Meditan says, or mad Titan, sorry, Mad Titan says, I

2369
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 2: love the chemistry you guys have with each other. Three

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01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 2: hold it for says the host Rod and Carroll. When listening,

2371
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm hearing from my favorite cousins. Y'all

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01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: are passionate about the podcast and love each other and

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01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 2: love to have fun.

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01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 1: You have a lifelong listener and me, thank you.

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01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 2: It's Mecca probably says so many things. Karen's laugh for sure,

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01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 2: the puns. I still think about my favorite guess the

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Speaker 2: race that the lady I ran the police in Scooby

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Speaker 2: Doove A all time classes.

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Speaker 1: K Sarry ninety four says your podcast is.

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01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 2: An authentic, safe and honest black space and it's hell

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01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: of funny.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't even call our safe necessarily space safe,

2384
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 2: because I think comedy is kind of always a little.

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01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: Unsafe, especially with us.

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01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 2: Doing it live on the fly, because it don't take long,

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01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 2: like just one fucking comment, you fucked up, but we

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01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 2: try to keep I'll say, well, mindful space, I'll say

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01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 2: that for sure, yes, and thoughtful yeah, because I definitely

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01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 2: don't want to promise safety because I don't think anyone

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01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 2: can provide it.

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01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: Death not Yoda says, I love you both so much.

2393
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 1: What do I start. Rod's laugh is contagious.

2394
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 2: Karen cracks me up with her oh nos and her

2395
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: mixing up names for people. I love that you both

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01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: are truly down to earth. If I live near you,

2397
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 2: I take you both to dinner Friday nights. I love

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01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 2: all your content, like listening to my bestie, my kids roll,

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01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 2: listening to the white people news it is, it is

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01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 2: about h JR. Nicholas says, facts based commentary.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's rare these days.

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01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 2: Landor says all the last, the sound of your last,

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01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 2: as well as how much you make me laugh.

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01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: We're all laughing together.

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01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 2: Uh the folding chair, says rare Element. And someone replied

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01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 2: would last? And then she replied, Or Rarement replied, I'm

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01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 2: type upset. She's finally remembering the official weapon of the show.

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01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: I know she's getting I've been.

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01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 3: On the street now. How long that street gonna last?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess the racist hilarious, says Mars Nerdy to sense

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Speaker 2: Say says, I must add that the Blackouts podcast live

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01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 2: chat is the best. Give it up for yourselves, give

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01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 2: it up, get up for the chat room, shout out

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01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 2: to the chat room.

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01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 1: Give it up for yourself.

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01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 3: Y'all looking so good tonight, y'all looking good out there.

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01:56:56,360 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 1: Lots of fam and a joyous attitude bound always in

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01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: the chat. That is that is facts though our chat.

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01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 2: If you've never been to the live chat, you're missing out, man.

2422
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 2: The only the hardest part of doing this show is

2423
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 2: I can't really read all the chat.

2424
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 3: You can't.

2425
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 2: I can look up every once in a while sometimes,

2426
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 2: you know, help me shop with my argument or make

2427
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, address a point before somebody gets to it.

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01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, y'all, all right, your Tonday, Your Tonday says

2429
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 2: I love everything about y'all, especially Karen's laugh A big

2430
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 2: hit all right apparentlyself. I can't believe it's still going,

2431
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna keep going. Go ahead, No Wednesday Pod says.

2432
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 2: The authenticity is apparently in the love you have for

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01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: each other. It's apparent in the love you have for

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01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 2: each other, and then the way you break down so

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 2: many different topics with the sense of humor. PA Thank you,

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01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 2: PhD says anytime Karen says who and the passion you

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01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 2: two have when it comes to speaking up on voting

2438
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,919
Speaker 2: and your worship and your allyship on LGBTQ plus issues.

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01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2440
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 2: We try, we the perfect, but we try. Honestly, they

2441
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 2: make the bars alone. I'm sure we getting some extra.

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: Credit, Right's an extra point. I listen to these other motherfuckers,

2443
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 1: I'll just be like, goddamn, you didn't really shit.

2444
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 2: You out here fucking winging it like you just you're

2445
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 2: still saying transgenders as a noun.

2446
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 1: That's all you read one article, one, just one anyway,

2447
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: But we do try for uhde the Great says Black.

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01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 3: Keep it simple.

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01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 1: That honestly might be my favorite one. Black all right, yep,

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01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 1: that's my favorite thing about the show too. Uh James says,

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01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you and Karen's alliance with the LGBTQ

2452
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 1: plus community and enjoy LGBTQ News segment. Feels good to

2453
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: be uplifted and supporting the way that encourages us to preserve, persevere,

2454
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: and grow together in unity. Thank you, Yeah, you know,

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01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: thank you. I didn't really think about that, but yeah,

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01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: you absolutely, man. That segment means a lot.

2457
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 2: And I know we're too straight people talking about something

2458
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 2: that we having this readly experienced ourselves, but I hope

2459
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 2: to be empathetic and relatable and at least connect the

2460
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 2: shared struggles that we experience, and I really do feel like,

2461
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 2: whether it's even if you're just a selfish ass motherfucker selfishly,

2462
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 2: you should be looking at the people on the cutting

2463
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 2: edge on the precipice of losing rights in this country

2464
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 2: at all times because you are not far behind. No

2465
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 2: related Leslie says how unapologetically you.

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01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 1: Both are and inspired. Thank you? Uh de Lindsay says,

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 1: y'all from North Carolina enough said word represent Okay, come

2468
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: on and raise up, take your shirt off like a helicopter.

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01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Name another song. I will not Uh that's the one

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01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: we got, but I don't even lie that shit goes.

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01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to to this day that beat. Come on?

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 2: Nerdous Sins says, if it wasn't for the black out,

2474
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 2: tis all I ever know half the things I've been

2475
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 2: helped to discovered with fucking with black people. I'm also

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Speaker 2: a constant blurred in the crowd for Nerdoff loved that one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Eve says too many things. The name, the badger,

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Speaker 2: guess the race, who knews white people knew? The segment

2479
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 2: music and Karen's bad puns. Y'all do love those?

2480
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all be encouraging me for them terrible ass puns.

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Speaker 1: Shut up podcast says.

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02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 2: When I was a teen and a young adult, hip

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Speaker 2: hop was my black CNN now is a tax paying mortgage.

2484
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 2: Having grown up, it's been your podcast. So to answer

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02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 2: your question, information I care about in the comedy, J

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02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 2: two five two says, I'd say it's y'all be an

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02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 2: open minded as somebody that's been listening to y'all since

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02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 2: twenty eleven. During my early twenties, your podcast definitely made

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02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 2: an impact on me not being a wild toxic hetero.

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Speaker 1: Dude. Yo, I'm glad man.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll still remember this person that I've now

2492
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 2: unfollowed because they're fucking sociopath. But I still remember one

2493
02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 2: time on Twitter, man, someone had said like something. It

2494
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 2: was like either a compliment of our show or like

2495
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 2: someone asked like, you know, what do you do to

2496
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 2: contribute to society or some shit, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I do our show, and you know, I

2498
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 2: feel like I show. People have written in testimonials that

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Speaker 2: we've educated with people, face to face with people, and

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02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 2: the yeah, face to face people have told us these.

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Speaker 1: Stories, and I'm always proud when.

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02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 2: I hear a black man specifically. I don't mean to

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02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 2: single it out like other people don't matter, but it's

2504
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 2: just so rare that I that I see this, and

2505
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 2: I love to see it. When a black man says

2506
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 2: like because of the way y'all talk, it made me

2507
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 2: think more about black women, more about LGBTQ people.

2508
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 3: How I treat.

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02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 2: My family, my daughter, my son, my like the conversations

2510
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 2: we have, my politics.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That means a lot to me. And it's

2512
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,360
Speaker 1: not some shit you see all the time. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of rare.

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Speaker 2: Motherfuckers these days getting some shit and be like like

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02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 2: this is I'm staying like this forever. Like people think

2516
02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 2: defiance is righteousness just by the nature of being defiant,

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02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:12,040
Speaker 2: and so yeah, absolutely, man, that means a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that there will be a lot

2519
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 1: of people, but it's but even one person is good

2520
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 1: that we have dudes out here that are being more considerate.

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Speaker 2: So all right, that's that's it for the show. I

2522
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 2: don't have any Those are all the compliments for a

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02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 2: lot to say.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a grammar, grammar, grammar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know.

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02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 2: I guess we could do sword ratchetness. Okay, we did.

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02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 2: We don't want to shirk our duty. Okay, we have

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Speaker 2: one more thing to do. Man Wilding Swords shot killed

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Speaker 2: by Pima County Deathudies at Tucson hotel oh yep. A

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Speaker 2: report of a suspicious person around ten pm on Saturday

2531
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 2: was at a day's end their Tucson International Airport sherif's

2532
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 2: apartment described to man yelling outside the hotel room waving

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Speaker 2: a sword in a statement issue Sunday morning. The deputies

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Speaker 2: tried to talk to the man upon arriving, according to

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Speaker 2: the statement, at which point he removed the sword from

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Speaker 2: his sheath.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, oh no, not the she's been watching ninja

2538
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Speaker 1: kama wee.

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Speaker 3: Come on, It's bad enough you got it, but then

2540
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Speaker 3: you got the nerves to have it in the sheath.

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Speaker 1: Unsheathed in the sword. What motherfucker's got guns? You better

2542
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Speaker 1: be a ninja.

2543
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 3: And every time I hear that, hours think of anime.

2544
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:02,880
Speaker 3: I think they put down and go yeah, every time

2545
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 3: I hear that, like in my mind, that's what I hear.

2546
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 3: And you said, this little line of light that goes

2547
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Speaker 3: up to the.

2548
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 2: End, like and then the moonlight listens off of it, yes, reflection.

2549
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 3: They trying to look at themselves.

2550
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 2: They say whatever move they're about to do, because of

2551
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,840
Speaker 2: course they got to announce it, right, like, oh, you

2552
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 2: look for the total eclipse Samarah moonlight Like what, yes,

2553
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 2: all right, so he says, debs trying to talk to

2554
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 2: the man. Upon arriving, he pulled out the sword. A

2555
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 2: debuty shot the man and receeded to apply first aid.

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02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 2: The man was pronounced dead at the scene and no

2557
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 2: one else is injured. They will investigate the incident because somebody,

2558
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the routine, please do uh, and the

2559
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 2: Sheriff's Deputy's department.

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02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,160
Speaker 1: The Sheriff's department, I'm sorry, held a separate investments.

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Speaker 2: You see, if any policies are violated during the shooting,

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02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 2: so I guess we'll.

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Speaker 1: Find out if there were.

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02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, the police don't normally play around when

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02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 2: motherfucker's got swords and weapons like that day at least

2566
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 2: that I haven't seen it work any other way. It's

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Speaker 2: typically someone getting shot.

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Speaker 3: All right, y'all.

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Speaker 1: That's it, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back later on throughout the week until and

2571
02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 2: thank you for all sincerely, thank you for all the

2572
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 2: people that wrote in for doing it. For the ground

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02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 2: it was it was great to get showered in love

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02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,960
Speaker 2: for this episode and accept those compliments.

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Speaker 3: You know, yes, thank you very very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, until next time, I love you.

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Speaker 3: I love you too, wa