1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour Clay and Buck is underway 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: on this Friday. Thanks for rolling with us. And I 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: know this is one of those things I just can't 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: believe that it's already December and we're gonna we're already 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: hearing the Christmas music. Actually, you go into like Walgreens 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, you're starting to hear it, all of a sudden, 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: your life is going to be taken over by Mariah 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Carey All I Want for Christmas? Is you you think 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: you can avoid that song? Some of you. I assure 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: you you cannot. It will find you somewhere. Clay, don't 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: you think that's the isn't that the most common? If 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: you had to pick one Christmas song that you hear 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: all over the malls, the shopping malls of America, I 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: think the Mariah Carey All I Want for Christmas. She's 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: done a great job, Buck of leaning into like the 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: win that flip when the switch basically gets flipped, and 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: there's no telling how many. I think she'll end up 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: making hundreds of millions of dollars off that song alone 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: right in her career. Based on how much it is licensed. 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: I think it's the most played song every year. When 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: you consider all of the obsession with it, Why don't 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: we have Thanksgiving music? This is ever across your bad, 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: Like you know, I feel like there's fourth or July music. 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: You start hearing the fife and the drum and you 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: get a little revolutionary revolutionary War America vibe from it, 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, But I don't, you know, and you've got 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: the fireworks, which is kind of a symphony of its own. 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving would be far better off if I were like 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Advisor. It just every year, I feel like 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: it gets snowed under more by the expansion of both 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Halloween and Christmas, because as soon as you go to November, 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: it feels like it's Christmas season, even though you got 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: to get to Thanksgiving first. And I feel like if 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving rebranded and they had it in like March, it 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: would be a way bigger holiday, right because we have 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: kind of a dirt of holidays after the first of 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: the year, after New Years where nothing really happened. I know, 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: they're holidays in February, March, President's Day, you know, MLK Day, 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: but none of those are like, hey, I've got to 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: build my entire weekend around one of these holidays, says 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: the President's Day sales. I'm stunning effective President's Day. No 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: one even remembers. They were like, wait, which presidents whatever? 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: All right, So this is something else I wanted to 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: get to here, clay And and it's remarkable. Gavin Newsom 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: has said he's not running for president. We'll see because 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. My belief here is that Biden is going 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: to run again barring a true incapacitation or you know, 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: something changing in his in his health picture where he's 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: just not able to run. So I think he's in. 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: If he obviously wasn't in, Gavin Newsom clearly would throw 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: his hat into the ring. But Newsom has a reparations 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: committe for the state of California. The Reparation's Committee is 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: going to be handing, or rather recommends handing out two 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three thousand, two hundred dollars per person. 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: This is from the Daily Mail to all descendants of 57 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: slaves in California for housing discrimination. This would cost five 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine billion dollars. It would be the 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: biggest ever redistribution of wealth restitution in the country's history, 60 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: and the specifically this is focused on a housing discrimination. 61 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: What I think is so interesting is that reparations are 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: a nationally, deeply unpopular policy. Affirmative action is a deeply 63 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: nationally a deeply unpopular policy. And I think that in 64 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: California they're going to be pushing some these initiatives and 65 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: going further than anyone had ever thought was likely to 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: happen until finally people wake up and realize that this 67 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: never ends these once you start doing this, first of all, 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's going to be highly subjective, right, 69 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what is what counts? You have a lot 70 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: of people that have you mixed heritage, mixed lineage. How 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: do you prove this? How do you get this money? 72 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: The whole thing is such a mess. And five hundred 73 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: and sixty billion dollars clay, give or take, that's a 74 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: lot of money for a stay. Yeah, you start to 75 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: add it up. Here's what I would say historically on 76 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: the reparations argument, and this is taking away the crazy 77 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: emotion that is always thrown into these kind of arguments. 78 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: Buck the United States, the United States had legal slavery 79 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: for eighty years seventeen eighty three to eighteen sixty three. 80 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: We officially won our independence from England in seventeen eighty three. 81 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: In eighteen sixty three, Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. 82 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: So we had eighty years of slavery in the actual 83 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: United States. You want to blow people's mind from sixteen 84 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: nineteen when the first slave arrived on American shores two 85 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: seventeen eighty three. Arguably that is the responsibility of England. 86 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: So if you want to truly assess slavery in the 87 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: United States, we were colonies from sixteen nineteen to seventeen 88 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: eighty three when slavery existed, and England was responsible for that. 89 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: From seventeen eighty three to eighteen sixty three, we have 90 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: eighty years, So two thirds of all reparations, if they 91 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: were going to be paid, should be paid by Great Britain, 92 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: because that is where the authority to determine whether or 93 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: not slavery existed lay, because we were not an independent country. Now, 94 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: to your point, the first argument, which no one ever 95 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: dives into, no one ever discusses, no one ever suggests, 96 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: to your point, how do you determine an assess when 97 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: there is so much racial diversity in this country. A 98 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: huge percentage of people who are African American that live 99 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: in this country now never were here during slavery. Right, 100 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: there's a huge immigration population. There are lots of people 101 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: that have come into this country that never actually experienced 102 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: slavery and have experienced affirmative action, which Buck, if you 103 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: remember again, historically, the idea behind affirmative action was that 104 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: it was a redress for past American behavior as it 105 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: pertains to black people in this country. That now is 106 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: even in California, wildly unpopular. They voted against expanding affirmative action. 107 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court is going to knock down affirmative action. 108 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: And we haven't talked about this on the Showbuck, but 109 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: do you know what the response of higher education is? 110 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 1: Do you know what they're doing already? They're enda getting 111 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: rid of meritocratic testing. Of course, that's what you're doing 112 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: in the lsat s, that's they've hate. The SAT was 113 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: created to help diversity in schools when it was largely 114 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Jewish people for being discrimina people were being discriminated against 115 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: in the Ivy League. So the SAT comes out and 116 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: now they want to get rid of the SAT so 117 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: that they can discriminate against effectively white male applicants. That's 118 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: the idea. I'm sorry an Asian, an Asian applicant, Asian applicants. 119 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: And look, what's also unfortunate is the data reflects that 120 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: standardized testing gives you a great indication of how people 121 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: are going to perform in the university. That is, if 122 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: you test really highly, you are likely to do well 123 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: in law school, or in medical school or in undergrad 124 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: and if you test really low, you are likely to struggle. 125 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: Which is why they're now doing away with testing, because 126 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: it isn't providing a perfect, perfectly diverse candidate pool. Because 127 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Asian people destroy the testing in a good way. They 128 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: overwhelm the standardized testing. They absolutely dominate, and that now 129 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really kind of interesting where the world is. Initially, 130 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: standardized testing came in because Jewish people were being discriminated 131 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: against in the Ivy League institutions, and this was to 132 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: level the playing field and allow a meritocracy to exist. 133 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: Now it is Asian people who are being discriminated against, 134 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: and that now that the response it is white males 135 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: as well. By the way, Asians are the most by 136 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: the numbers discriminate against and then it's white males, and 137 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: then there are you go down the two different groups 138 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: that are getting elevated at different levels. Right, So it's 139 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: more it is more advantageous. I mean I did. By 140 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: the way, do you know I actually had a couple 141 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: of friends that I knew very well when I went 142 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,359 Speaker 1: to high school and college with who were all admissions 143 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: committees at some of these top schools. Yeah, and I've 144 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: talked to them off the record about what goes on, 145 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: and they're all lying. I mean, and they're not lying, 146 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: but I mean the schools are lying about what they do. Yes, 147 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: they absolutely sit there and they're like, well, this person 148 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: we think is black, this person we think is you know, 149 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: a Pacific islander. And they make determinations about which one 150 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: of those things is to get more points and more 151 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: value in their admissions process. It's really it's really super racist. 152 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: It's super super racist. Just ask ask anyone who applies. 153 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: If you're a student and you apply and you're let's 154 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: say you're an Iranian, let's say you're a Persian heritage, 155 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: they the college admissions don't care. You get nothing. That 156 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: doesn't help you at all. If you can claim to 157 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: be a quarter Hispanic. Maybe it'll give you a little 158 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: bit of a boo bost if you can claim to 159 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: be who knows how what percentage that has to be 160 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: Native American, huge boost. I mean, it's just the whole 161 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: system is racially rigged. That is what is going on. 162 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: It is wrong. The Supreme Court is going to strike 163 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: it down. But when you start looking at these programs 164 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: where they're saying, we're going to give you taxpayers are 165 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: going to fund massive checks to people based upon historic injustice, 166 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: where what are the outer limits to that? Like, where 167 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: where does that stop? Well? Yes, and also on your 168 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: admissions idea, what we need is totally race blind admissions. Right, 169 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: you take a test you are and and maybe a 170 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: gender blind. You know, they did this in uh they 171 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: did this in California. They got rid of race So 172 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: this this is the one thing too they say, oh 173 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: my gosh, it'll this is don't be so terrible. And no, 174 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: California got rid of race based preferences in part, by 175 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: the way, because of the very large Asian community that 176 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: particularly in the nineties started to do and you know, 177 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: started to dominate at the UC schools Berkeley, UCLA, which 178 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: are very elite state schools, they started to dominate there, 179 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: and so they got rid of and they got rid 180 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: of race and admissions, and everyone says, oh, but there 181 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: won't be enough diversity. No, the school California's very diverse state. 182 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: The schools are very diverse. What you saw in the data, 183 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: it was a shift where there were there were slightly 184 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: lower percentages of African American and Hispanic students in the 185 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: most elite UC schools, but actually a slightly higher percentage 186 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: in the sort of more mid tier by SAT schools. 187 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: But here's the fascinating part. With higher GPAs and higher 188 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: graduation rates. Yeah, because it turns out putting people into 189 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: elite institutions where they're not actually prepared isn't a good idea. 190 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,479 Speaker 1: It's a mismatch in skill set and so your actual outcomes. 191 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: There's been great studies on this is when you are 192 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: not prepared to go to an elite institution academically, you 193 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: graduate at a lower rate because you are misaligned in 194 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: terms of your academic abilities with the institution that you attend. 195 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: But the fact that they're just completely doing away with testing. 196 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Harvard, Yale, and I believe Stanford buck have 197 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: all just said We're no longer going to be a 198 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: part of the US News rankings. They're not even going 199 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: to share data with all of the US newspeople to 200 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: help rank the best schools because they're doing away with 201 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: any sort of meritocracy at all. And the end result, unfortunately, 202 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: is going to be that we're going to circle back 203 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: around to this era where the meritocracy does not govern, 204 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: and you end up with people with lower grades, less 205 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: active and strong resumes getting admitted to schools that, frankly, 206 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: they're not going to be well suited to be able 207 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: to succeed in. But that's where we are, and I 208 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: think all of this is connected it ends up happening. 209 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: They want to give five hundred billion dollars. California's budget 210 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: has crashed. They're now dealing with a massive budget deficit 211 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: because they gave out all this money to everybody in 212 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: California to try to deal with inflation. We didn't even 213 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on that, but I think 214 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: every person in California got a twelve hundred dollar check 215 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: to help them deal with inflation, which is probably the 216 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: worst thing the government could could do to help deal 217 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: with inflation is give people more money. To go out 218 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: and spend. It's just there's a lack of basic comprehension 219 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to business in so many of our 220 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: elected officials. Look, it's so much of the Democrat Party's 221 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: power and influence comes from two things. 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There Tuttle 248 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: radio dot com one more time, Tuttle radio dot com. 249 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, gonna head 250 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: up to Michigan to talk to Tutor Dixon about the 251 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: fallout of her race for governor. She's gonna be on 252 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: with us next But I was just talking to Buck 253 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: about this off the air, and you will become an 254 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: expert in this, I would venture within a couple of 255 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: years when you start having kids. But one of the 256 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: top trending topics on all of Twitter right now is 257 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Disney is canceling the Splash Mountain Ride. Now Splash Mountain 258 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Buck is the most fun, I would argue one of 259 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: the most fun Magic Kingdom rides at disney World. It's 260 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: based on Brear Rabbit, Uncle Remus tells, and it's a 261 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: really fun long ride. If you've ever been super Odd 262 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: at disney World and you've got young kids at lasts 263 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: several minutes. It's a water ride. You come down a 264 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: hill and you get splashed, and it's pretty awesome. They 265 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: are shutting it down in January because of connections, they 266 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: say to racism. This is one hundred percent real, and 267 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: they are replacing the entire ride. They're going to keep 268 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: the same structure, but they're putting a black princess from 269 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: New Orleans, this Princess Tiana and the Toad or something 270 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: like that. I don't really I'm not that familiar with 271 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: that movie. It's a relatively new one. So they are 272 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: wokeifying Disney is a actual amusement park ride because they 273 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: have decided that the amusement park ride is racist. I 274 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: know that there have to be a ton of people 275 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now that are like, 276 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: this cannot be real. It is in fact real. The 277 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: amusement park ride, which has been there for twenty some 278 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: odd years is racist, according to Disney, so it has 279 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: to be changed. They are replacing the entire interior of 280 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: the ride. It's going to take I'll be fixed. I 281 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: don't know anything about I don't think I've ever been 282 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: on Splash Mountain. I think I might have been at 283 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: Disney World when I was like five years old or 284 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: four years old. I have really no no recollection of it. 285 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: Apparently a change dot org position of twenty one thousand 286 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: signatures was what there are you here? And that's it 287 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: just goes to show you. But there's so many of 288 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: these of these instances where we'll hear about public outcry. 289 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: I can get twenty thousand, I can get twenty thousand 290 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: people to say, you know, to go along with anything online, right, 291 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, this is crazy. You can find 292 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: twenty thousand people who will tell you. I mean, I 293 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: was gonna say the Earth is flat. That's easy a 294 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: lot more than twenty thousand millions. But yeah, point being, Um, 295 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's a racist amusement park ride. 296 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: Buck they're replacing it. 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That's m A N T 316 00:18:53,320 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: S X mantis x dot com. Welcome back to clay Buck. 317 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: We have Tuotor Dixon with us now. She just ran 318 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: a heck of a race up in Michigan for the 319 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: governor's seats. Unfortunately, the awful Gretchen Whitmer is going to 320 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: continue to be harassing Michiganders with our speeches and bad 321 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: ideas for some time to come. Tutor, we appreciate you 322 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: joining us, and I wanted to start out with when 323 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: lessons learned from that campaign, from what happened in Michigan, 324 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: and you know, because twenty twenty four is going to 325 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: be here before we know it. Yes, yeah, thank you 326 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: for having me lessons learned. I think we've learned across 327 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: the country. We need a better ground game across the country. 328 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: Republicans need to be out there and saying what is 329 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: the ballot chase we see them doing it. We have 330 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: backed away from what we keep hearing Republicans come out 331 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: and say we have to vote in one day. That 332 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: is not reality. They're voting for months before us. But 333 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: they're not just voting. They're going out and making sure 334 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: people vote. They're getting those ballots back, and we're not 335 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: doing that. That is something It is so key, and 336 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: that's something that we have to change where we never 337 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: win again. And it's just got to be ingrained in 338 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: people that this is how elections are now and we 339 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: see election laws passing in Michigan. We had an election 340 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: law passed that is really going to be pretty radical 341 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: and it's going to allow them to do whatever they want. 342 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: But you know what, we have to look at this 343 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: and say it allows us then that opportunity as well. 344 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: So we need to play that game. And if we 345 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: don't play that game, we're just not going to win. Tudor, 346 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. So I know when you finish 347 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: a campaign, you put everything into it. You were just 348 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: kind of telling us in response there to buck what 349 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: you learned, what could have led to Michigan Republicans doing better? 350 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: Because if you go look at the data, like nationwide, 351 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Michigan people really kind of took it on the chin 352 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: the Republican Party did. Is that a one time thing 353 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: because you think there was an abortion referendum on the 354 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: ballot in twenty twenty two? Will things be different in 355 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four? Or obviously Trump won Michigan in sixteen, 356 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: it was relatively close in twenty what's going to happen 357 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: in twenty four? Well, I definitely believe that abortion was 358 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: a part of it because Michigan was somewhat unique and 359 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: that in a Michigan when Dabbs the Dabbs decision was made, 360 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: then we immediately reverted to a nineteen thirty one law 361 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: that would ban abortion except her in cases of life 362 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: with a mother. And so the Democrats came out against 363 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: all of the Republicans because you know, this decision was 364 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: made in what July, and the Republicans had all been 365 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: endorsed by right to life, and so it was like, 366 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, you're on the record saying that you are 367 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: pro life, and then they can twist that into because 368 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: they are pro life, they will make sure you can 369 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: never have this, and of course they're very emotional with it. 370 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: It's taking your rights away. And so Republicans across the 371 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: states were just pummeled with this advertising, and there really 372 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: wasn't the money to go back across the state. There 373 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: really wasn't the funding to go back against this machine. 374 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: The Krets in Michigan had a massive amount of funding 375 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: to just hammer us into the ground on this particular issue. 376 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: And I really do think that that was incredibly successful. 377 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: But do I think that that's a one time thing. 378 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Michigan is very much a purple state. 379 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: So the problem is that if we don't figure this 380 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: out in the next two and four years, then and 381 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: we don't win some of these seats back, it's going 382 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: to be hard to bring it back, to bring the 383 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: majority back to the Republicans. So it's key. This is 384 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: the time when it is really key for Republicans to go. 385 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: We're going to focus on exactly what it takes to 386 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: win and make sure that we are in the next 387 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: year putting that mechanism together, forming that organization that it 388 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: takes to do this, and then hit the ground running 389 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: once these elections really start to unfold and once the 390 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: campaigns really begin to unfold and we are playing the 391 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: same game that they're playing, because if we do not 392 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: win house seats back in two years and send it 393 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: feeds back in four years, we are in danger of 394 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: being a blue state for a long time to come. 395 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: Speaking of Tutor Dixon, Tutor, if there's any messaging lesson 396 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: that you have specifically for how to win Michigan, I mean, 397 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: I know we're talking about that. That's the state that 398 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: you know the best. It's going to be essential in 399 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four that the Goop approaches It's the right way. 400 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: You've talked a bit about getting the machinery in place, 401 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: which is obviously critical. It's critical in Michigan, meaning the 402 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: vote ballot harvesting or where that's legal, obviously registration mail 403 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: in voting where that's legal, those things to an Arizona 404 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: to in Michigan to in Pennsylvania. What do you think though, 405 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: from a messaging standpoint, what needs to be said, what 406 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: a Michiganders need to hear. Let me be raw and 407 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: brutally honest here in Michigan, but I think across the country, 408 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: Republicans have to come out with solutions and no complaining, 409 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: and I think that that is something that we all 410 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: have to go Well, what happened in twenty sixteen. You 411 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: had a presidential candidate in twenty sixteen who came out 412 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: and said, I will absolutely make sure we are building 413 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: cars in the state of Michigan. Again, that was an 414 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: absolute and people want, Wow, that's what we want, you know, 415 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: that's what we want to hear. And I will absolutely 416 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: put you first. I will bring back blue collar jobs. 417 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: And now that's not the message that we're hearing. You know, 418 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: we have to go back to We're going to restore 419 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: your life and affect your personal life and affect your 420 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: pocketbook in a positive way. And that's a key that's 421 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: a key issue right now, especially for people in Michigan, 422 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: because look at what we have going on. You have 423 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 1: an electric vehicle industry that only survives if you have 424 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: battery plants, and batteries are so heavy and unwieldly and 425 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: hard to ship that you are only going to have 426 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: assembly factories if they are next to battery plants. And 427 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden just awarded the funding for battery plants to 428 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: twelve states, Michigan was not one of them. So you 429 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: are going to come in as a presidential candidate or 430 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: any candidate come into the state of Michigan and talk 431 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: to people in Michigan, you better be talking to them 432 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: about making sure that those auto jobs are going to 433 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: stay in the state of Michigan. And also for parents. 434 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, Michigan is fortieth in the nation for education. 435 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: But what is the answer for that? What is the 436 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: true answer? And that one's tougher because we have a 437 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: very strong union here and they are not allowing these 438 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: students to get back on track. There's not really a 439 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: plan and it's not as black and white. You know, 440 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: It's not like you can say I'm going to bring 441 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: factories back and teach kids to read. It's not like 442 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: factories for making sure that you're going to have a 443 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: place to build cars. That's not as black and white. 444 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: But you have to have solutions. You can't complain that 445 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: the schools are so bad. You have to have a 446 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: solution to make sure that the schools are better. You 447 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: can't complain that automanufacturers or leaving. You have to have 448 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: a solution to bring the auto plants back to Michigan, Tudor. 449 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: One of the things that we've learned by looking at 450 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: some of these campaigns is a lot of things that 451 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: typically have mattered a great deal debates. For instance, Gretchen 452 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Whitmer got I think slaughtered by you in the debate. 453 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: But Democrats are already voting, and by the time even 454 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: some independents are by the time those debates happen, we 455 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: don't have necessarily the same move in the polls. And 456 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: if we do have those moving going on in the polls, 457 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: then so many people have already banked their votes that 458 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: they really don't matter. We kind of focus on the 459 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: October surprise or the last week Democrats Republicans do for 460 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: the ground game. You hinted at this with the first response, 461 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: but did you feel that where a lot of the 462 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: result was already banked before you even got the opportunity 463 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: to make your case. Absolutely, And we have a lot 464 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: of Republican donors who aren't like you know, I'll see 465 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: how she does. I'll if I think she can pull 466 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: it off, and then if she impresses me, I'll come 467 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: into the game. And the interesting thing about the Democrats 468 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: is they don't care who the person is. If it's 469 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: a d they support them all the way. If that's 470 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: the person who wins their primary, you have to believe 471 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: that there are going to be millions of dollars that 472 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: will flow to that person, and every Democrat will come 473 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: out and vote. You won't see Democrats saying I don't 474 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: know if they personally impressed me. It doesn't matter if 475 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: your brain dead, it doesn't matter if you're actually dead. 476 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: These days, if you're a Democrat, they're going to vote 477 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: for you. Do you think do you think retch and 478 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: Whitmer is going to run for president now or are 479 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: you concerned that that's going to happen right Look at 480 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now, something very very fishy is 481 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: going on in Michigan where we're suddenly going to move 482 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: up our primary, even though suddenly that's going to just 483 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: totally annihilate the Republicans. We lose all of our delegates 484 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: if we do this. Why did our legislatures say, yeah, 485 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: this is a good idea, we want to vote for this. 486 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: This is a very, very suspect because the reason to 487 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: do this is that you are going to have a 488 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: Democrat primary. And the interesting part about this if you 489 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: are looking at what has happening in Michigan right now 490 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: and you're looking at what key comments are coming out 491 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: of Democrats, the key Democrats in the state are saying, 492 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: we want people to come and campaign, get gear Warner jacket. 493 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: We can't wait to have people here in February. And 494 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: you have to go, wait a minute, they are having 495 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: a primary. They already know it, so you know Joe 496 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: Biden's not running. The only reason to have this moved 497 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: up in Michigan is because you know Gretchen Whitmer is 498 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: going to win those those votes in Michigan, and then 499 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: you're going to push to have Gretchen Whitmer be the 500 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: candidate nationwide. So I believe one hundred percent. Yes, I 501 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: already can tell from the comments that we're seeing Joe 502 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: Biden is not running, So this is going to be 503 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: a big primary and we are going to try to 504 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: put the person in Michigan at the top. Now. The 505 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: only question is you know, is Pete Buddha Judge saying 506 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Michigan and I will be 507 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: the person who will win out Michigan. And that's why 508 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: we want to move it up. I believe it's Gretchen Whitmer. 509 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: I am anxious to see what they decide to do. 510 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why Republicans are going along with this 511 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: right now, but I think Michigan right now is the 512 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: state to watch when it comes to the twenty four 513 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: presidential election on the Democrat side, because they're telling us 514 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: things that people really aren't paying attention to. But it 515 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: looks like Joe Biden's out of the race. Tutor, look 516 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you down here in Nashville in a 517 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks meet in person, and we appreciate you 518 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: coming on the show and look forward to helping you 519 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: as you figure out your political career going forward. Hey, 520 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on today. No 521 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: doubt got four daughters to take care of. Buck, You're 522 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: going to be in that camp one day. I think 523 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a bunch of girls. I've told Carry that. 524 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think I'm gonna be a 525 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: girl dad. That's just always that's been. I think you 526 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: got a prep. I think you got a prep. Forward. 527 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: We'll come back, we'll break down something that Tutor Dixon 528 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: was just talking about a little bit more. As we 529 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: finish out the show for Friday, Democrats are changing their 530 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: overall primary season. They're doing away with Iowa. They're going 531 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: to move everything to South Carolina started there. How does 532 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: that change some of the calculus going forward. I think 533 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: it's a really intriguing question. 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I 569 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: think it was to talk about this. Maybe it was 570 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Kids are now coming back at the 571 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: University of Idaho, and every time I turn on the television, 572 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: or honestly, every time I pull up Twitter, there's more 573 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: headlines about the quadruple murder, and it still feels like 574 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: we don't know anything because they keep swaying back and 575 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: forth as to who is responsible. They were concerned that 576 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: the killer may go to the funerals, and so they 577 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: had security there. The more and more I read about this, 578 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: and I'll be honest with you, I basically click on 579 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: every new update story that comes out about this case. 580 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: It feels like this is moving not very fast in 581 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: any direction, and they legitimately have no idea who's to blame. 582 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: We keep going back and forth in the reporting from oh, 583 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: they're probably holding back details and facts, they're there along 584 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: than we think they are, and that the cops involved 585 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 1: or on it too. Then there's a report saying the 586 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: cops have nothing, there's no leads, there's no there's no 587 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: plan here, you know, And some of that is just 588 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: speculation via the reporters. On this one, it's it's tough 589 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: to track it down exactly it is. It is the 590 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: case that apparently one of the murder victim's fathers, did 591 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: you see this, didn't want to have a funeral because 592 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: he was afraid that the killer might show up to 593 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: the funeral and that bothered him so much. Because they 594 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea. And it is in any of 595 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: these instances like this, given the brutal nature of it 596 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: and the fact that happened in this community, the assumption 597 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: is usually or maybe just the percentages are, that it's 598 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: someone who knew somebody involved here, right, that it wasn't 599 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: a total random, you know, a drifter or something like that, 600 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: someone who just came into town who's a psychopathic killer. 601 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: So that's something that's that has come up. But even 602 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: whether or not the victims were targeted specifically or not, 603 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: they're they're not really saying I mean, they said it was, 604 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: now they're backing off of it, and now you're getting 605 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of this is contradictory reporting. So if 606 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: it sounds a little confusing, it's because it is right. 607 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: One day it's this, the next day it's that. But 608 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: they're also saying they don't want any theorizing from law 609 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: enforcement because it may make the case more difficult to 610 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: prosecutor or something. Okay, But there's also part of it. 611 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: It's like, is that just law enforcement covering for the 612 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: fact that they have no idea what happened here? Yeah, 613 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: and and the fact that I keep coming back to 614 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: buck and it hasn't been discussed a great deal. On 615 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: the first floor, there were two people that were left 616 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: alive in this house, So whomever the killer was or 617 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: is walked into that house chose not to stab. Now, 618 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: maybe those doors were locked, maybe there was something they 619 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: had to know the house and the people in mind mind. 620 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: And I'm not a criminologist, and I'll correct myself if 621 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but it had to be somebody who knew something, 622 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: because you then walk up to the second and third 623 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: floor and stab four people to death. On the second 624 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: and third floor, walk back out and don't do anything 625 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: to the people on the first floor. And we talked 626 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace about this. What I can't get past 627 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: as well is the idea of the knife being used 628 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: because it's just such a violent, visceral, angry way to 629 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: kill someone. And it's so I mean again, to shoot someone, 630 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: but to stab four people to death is kind of 631 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: unheard of. I had years ago some very rudimentary edged 632 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: weapons training from somebody I was overseas as assigned and 633 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: somebody out of four Brag anyway, and we went through 634 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: He took me through this sort of basic intro course 635 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is actually about first aid 636 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: for yourself. You know, you learn about edged weapons, knife fighting, 637 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: and you learn about the first day that you would 638 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: need to stop from bleeding to death. It's not an 639 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: easy and quick thing usually to kill somebody with an 640 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: edged weapon. And so in this context of going into 641 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: a house four people one after another, leaving some alive 642 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: in the house, it would have been so easy for 643 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: this person to have been discovered. All it takes is 644 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: one shout, one scream. So to your point, there's a viciousness, 645 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: there's a sadism that seems to be at work here 646 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: obviously is at work here. And also the fact that 647 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: they are these students that are now terrified at University 648 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: of Idaho. They're walking around carrying tasers in bear spray. 649 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: I mean, the community is really under siege. I don't 650 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: blame them at all. And to your point, buck on 651 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: the violent nature here, I'm a Civil War history buck nerd. 652 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: They had bayonets on their guns. They almost never would 653 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: actually get in bayonet fights because it was so much 654 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: more violent than just the regular battle, which is something 655 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: to think about.