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Speaker 1: know from house Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome
Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Damn,
Speaker 1: that makes it sound fish And um, I just had
Speaker 1: some of my notes mixed up, like criminal records was
Speaker 1: stuffed in the middle of this one, Like wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be funny if I was talking about abandoned mines? And
Speaker 1: then just like a robot, it was like, and if
Speaker 1: you have a d U I you can call your
Speaker 1: local police shop and get that expunged. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's bad advice. Well, now I'm just saying, do you
Speaker 1: not ever call the police unless it's an emergency. You're right, Chuck? Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Three today? Huh yeah, day
Speaker 1: before holiday even in fact, the office is closed right
Speaker 1: now and we're still working. It's like crickets outside and
Speaker 1: someone threw a spear at me when I stuck my
Speaker 1: head out to go to the bathroom. Good that was
Speaker 1: his assignment. So Chuck, if I may take it down
Speaker 1: a notcher. Two? Have you ever heard of a guy
Speaker 1: named Taylor Crane, a kid. Taylor as a kid who
Speaker 1: was sixteen years old when he died. He was on
Speaker 1: a tour of Mexico UM with his parents New Mexico
Speaker 1: and mex Mexico, Mexico Old Mexico UM. And he was
Speaker 1: on a tour I didn't realize he's existed UM but
Speaker 1: a of abandoned haciendas and mines. So it's basically like
Speaker 1: an urban exploration tour of old Mexico UM. And they
Speaker 1: were at an old mind site the tour group was
Speaker 1: and Taylor was apparently playing tag and um jumped up
Speaker 1: on a low wall and apparently on the other side
Speaker 1: of that was a thousand foot mine shaft which he
Speaker 1: fell into a ten ft cross jess wide open a
Speaker 1: thousand feet down. They had a lot of trouble getting
Speaker 1: to them to recover him because there's so much lead
Speaker 1: and arsenic at the bottom that it was really difficult
Speaker 1: to breathe to get down there to get them. So
Speaker 1: you think, like, wow, it's really crazy that Mexico has
Speaker 1: these open minds. Mind blowing as it is, Mexico is
Speaker 1: not the only place. As a matter of fact, here
Speaker 1: in the States we have something on the scale of
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand abandoned minds. That's the high end, but
Speaker 1: the low end even is still I think like three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand abandoned minds. Abandoned minds probably two of the
Speaker 1: most dangerous words you can put together, and they're all
Speaker 1: over the place. The US is lousy with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and about thirty people die in the United States every
Speaker 1: year from accidents involving abandoned minds. And did a little looking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: apparently they include uh, quarries, and most of these are drownings. Um,
Speaker 1: because the quarry either has water or an abandoned mind shaft.
Speaker 1: You know, they'll pump out water to work in it,
Speaker 1: and then when they're done, it fills back up with water.
Speaker 1: So uh, some say, crazy scuba divers, we'll try and
Speaker 1: scuba dive these things. My dad was actually certified in
Speaker 1: an old marble quarry in Tlita, and to be certified
Speaker 1: you had to go down to a school bus at
Speaker 1: the bottom of this quarry. Um, you had to dive
Speaker 1: down to go into the school bus and grab something
Speaker 1: from it. It was like right inside, and then bring
Speaker 1: it back up. Then they'd be like, Okay, you're certifying
Speaker 1: your dad did. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: picture that. I can't imagine anything more creepy than having
Speaker 1: to go into a school bus at the bottom of
Speaker 1: a filled quarry. No, I'm just trying to picture your
Speaker 1: dad like all you know, scuba diving and adventure, a
Speaker 1: buzz cut and more like a big watch and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. I guess anytime you're older and you meet
Speaker 1: someone father when they're a little older, it's hard to
Speaker 1: imagine them as young because I didn't know him back then,
Speaker 1: But I picture him on the couch. Oh no, uh no,
Speaker 1: he was. He carried a spear gun everywhere he went
Speaker 1: with him. Really, that's awesome. Alright, So, um, sadly, like
Speaker 1: I said, about thirty people die each year, many of
Speaker 1: them are drownings. I think number two on the list
Speaker 1: as a TV accidents, which doesn't surprise me because tool
Speaker 1: along in the a TV on some you know, random
Speaker 1: thinking You're in the middle of nowhere place and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden the bottom falls out. Literally. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: those were the top two far and away that I
Speaker 1: came across too. But since two thousand one, apparently two
Speaker 1: seven people have died in the United States because of
Speaker 1: accidents involving abandoned minds. I saw one in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. These two guys were uh, trying to get
Speaker 1: a former gold mine going again because they thought there
Speaker 1: was still gold down there, and they were pumping out
Speaker 1: water with a some sort of machine with a generator,
Speaker 1: and they died of carbon monoxide poisoning. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: another one. I think it's way down on the list.
Speaker 1: It's like a distant third, but but I think it's
Speaker 1: it's um being overcome unable to breathe, asphyxiation, that's the
Speaker 1: word I'm looking for, by bringing in your own thing,
Speaker 1: or just by the toxic chemicals down there, toxic chemicals
Speaker 1: or um, carbon monoxide or oxygen depletion in general from
Speaker 1: people either trying to get old ones started up or yeah,
Speaker 1: more likely adventuring. Yeah, abandoned mind Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: give a tip to people because we like to encourage
Speaker 1: the urban explorers, which you know we've done a podcast
Speaker 1: on that. But man, you don't need to be hanging
Speaker 1: around abandoned minds. No, they're very, very dangerous. Yes, I
Speaker 1: mean that's just so mind bogglingly dangerous. Just resist the urge,
Speaker 1: and I like, I have that urge too, because I
Speaker 1: love the urban exploration. If I saw a whole the ground,
Speaker 1: I would want to go check it out. But it's
Speaker 1: not a good place to be, not a good thing
Speaker 1: to do. So what's crazy is we said, like, up
Speaker 1: to five hundred thousand abandoned minds and these are just
Speaker 1: the minds, not mine features. So say, every mine has
Speaker 1: several mind features. Say and at it, which is a
Speaker 1: vertical shaft or I'm sorry, a horizontal shaft. Um, And
Speaker 1: you've got a vertical shaft like the one that um,
Speaker 1: poor Taylor Crane fell into. Um, you have all these
Speaker 1: different mind features on up to five hundred thousand minds.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is is as of February two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven, the Bureau of Land Management, which is tasked
Speaker 1: with finding these abandoned minds, has only found about thirty
Speaker 1: one thousand of them. That means that there's possibly four
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine thousand abandoned minds in the United
Speaker 1: States that no one has on any map. True, but
Speaker 1: like on on the good side, they're trying to find them. Now.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, they only had eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: of them, so in spanned three years they found another
Speaker 1: uh thousand, I had twelve thousand and two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: Well even better than um. And I think of those
Speaker 1: have been remediated, have pending reclamation, or they say aren't
Speaker 1: a danger. They say, so, Um, that's just the physical dangerous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's two kinds. There's physical dangers and environmental dangers. And
Speaker 1: I think and I guess it's of the ones they
Speaker 1: found they said to have physical hazards and five have
Speaker 1: environmental hazards, which you know, it's not a ton but
Speaker 1: is pretty dangerous. Well, a physical hazard is insidious for
Speaker 1: the local just the local people who are walking around
Speaker 1: it sure like falling in, yeah, or maybe caving in.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I found out that any mine
Speaker 1: feature that is like a hole in the ground, or
Speaker 1: even like if there's a depression in the ground because
Speaker 1: a mine collapse, some they're called glory holes. Did you
Speaker 1: know that? That was almost a fit take, wasn't it?
Speaker 1: That's not true? I s where to God it is. Wow,
Speaker 1: I saw a sign today of an abandoned mind called
Speaker 1: the glory whole mind. Well that's that's quite a name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good for them. Uh mind tailings you talk about, and
Speaker 1: this is some of the environmental hazards, and these can
Speaker 1: actually be physical hazards too if you're living nearby. These
Speaker 1: are the remnants of what was going on there of
Speaker 1: the mineral, and often it can be very toxic and
Speaker 1: then that can either be harmful to you or it
Speaker 1: can run off into the water and be harmful to people,
Speaker 1: you know, downriver. That was my point is things like um,
Speaker 1: like add its and other mind features. UM, they're dangerous
Speaker 1: if you're walking around the mine. Environmental hazards of a
Speaker 1: mind can be very far reaching because in very much
Speaker 1: the same way that ascid rain is produced from like
Speaker 1: smoke stacks, these mines can produce acid rain UM, and
Speaker 1: they can also produce acid groundwater. When sulfide sulfide minerals
Speaker 1: and oxygen combined with water, it produces acidic groundwater that
Speaker 1: can pollute an entire water system downstream and then also chuck.
Speaker 1: There's mercury tailings or a big problem, especially with gold mines.
Speaker 1: So you know, like if you take mercury and take
Speaker 1: gold and put them together, mercury absorbs the gold and
Speaker 1: you get a rainbow, right, a deadly rainbow. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it makes what's called an amalgam. And then later on
Speaker 1: so you have like you can take a little gold
Speaker 1: flex or whatever, and now they're like highly portable, stable
Speaker 1: little things of mercury. And then you take them somewhere
Speaker 1: else and you can burn the mercury off and the
Speaker 1: mercury will vaporize and just the gold is left. Well,
Speaker 1: the problem is that mercury then immediately contaminates wherever you
Speaker 1: just burned it off, and there's the atmosphere and everything.
Speaker 1: But those kind of hailings are especially problematic, and old
Speaker 1: gold mines too. And does that end up in gold
Speaker 1: Schlager bottles? Probably is that where they get it? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I hope they're not putting formerly mercury gold
Speaker 1: and Malcolm in the gold schlag No, the people that
Speaker 1: gold Slager wouldn't do that. So, Josh, if this is
Speaker 1: such a problem, why wouldn't these companies clean up their
Speaker 1: mind sites. It seems like a no brainer to me.
Speaker 1: You're there, you do the work, you close it down,
Speaker 1: you clean it up, make sure it's safe for everybody.
Speaker 1: That's how you do it now. Yes, supposedly, Uh, it
Speaker 1: was not the case until ninety seven. For about two years.
Speaker 1: People mind UM even more than that, people mind in
Speaker 1: the United States willingly however they wanted, and they would
Speaker 1: they would say, well, this mind's used up. I don't
Speaker 1: need it any longer. I'm walking away. Well, the quick
Speaker 1: answer to my question answer now is money. That's the
Speaker 1: real reason, because it's really expensive to clean up your
Speaker 1: mind site. If you're a mining operation and you can
Speaker 1: free what you can just fold up shop and leave.
Speaker 1: Why would you spend money to clean it up? If
Speaker 1: you were a company without me like an ethical compass
Speaker 1: and a moral compass, because you know it's gonna hit
Speaker 1: your bottom line, so screw it, let's just leave it.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't help but feel like you set
Speaker 1: me up by asking me that question and expecting the
Speaker 1: short answer, because I've never given a short answer. Well,
Speaker 1: that is a short answer. UM two thousand and six
Speaker 1: congressional testimony said it would cost seventy two billion dollars
Speaker 1: to clean up only the hard rock minds like at
Speaker 1: the hard rock cafes. Right, seventy two billion dollars. Well,
Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management, which we said is UM
Speaker 1: responsible for finding these minds and for reclaiming them. Basically, Um,
Speaker 1: they divide minds that they have to deal with in
Speaker 1: the three categories. There's hard rock, which is like gold, silver,
Speaker 1: mineral iron maybe yeah, I don't think they deal with
Speaker 1: iron um. And then there's coal mines, and then uranium mines.
Speaker 1: Got it. Well, I saw on the East coast they
Speaker 1: had a map of where a lot of these abandoned
Speaker 1: mines are, and there's a lot of them on the
Speaker 1: East coast, and there were I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the coal mines. Oh yeah, Like there's Centrally of Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: which we talked about before, is an abandoned town with
Speaker 1: the coal steam burning underneath. Oh yeah, that's right. Creepy. Um.
Speaker 1: So they abandoned the mines over time, land records and
Speaker 1: lease records were lost, basically taking a reverse foreclosure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much. And so in the end, like no one's
Speaker 1: on the hook. No one knows many times who these
Speaker 1: mines originally, like who was responsible over this to begin with?
Speaker 1: And even if they do know the mine or its
Speaker 1: gonna be like the do you have documentation that's there
Speaker 1: on that mine? And the government goes no, and the
Speaker 1: mine owners says see you or the other little loophole
Speaker 1: wrote this right that you pointed out, which was if
Speaker 1: you have gone through bankruptcy, then you can't be held liable.
Speaker 1: That is no longer true. Oh is that not true? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was happy to find that there's there's You now
Speaker 1: have to post a bond basically as a mining company
Speaker 1: from what I understand from research I did very recently,
Speaker 1: that you have to post a bond kind of like
Speaker 1: a fidelity bond. That is money you pay in upfront
Speaker 1: that you get back if your mining operations successfully reclaims
Speaker 1: the land. If you don't reclaim it, if reclamation isn't
Speaker 1: like the end of your um mind, or you go bankrupt,
Speaker 1: that money is still there to pay for reclamation. So
Speaker 1: you canna correct the article. I think I should. I
Speaker 1: think you should. People need to know that. UM here's
Speaker 1: a little thing too called the Clean Water Act, which
Speaker 1: um obviously you're going to be violating that if you're
Speaker 1: letting your toxins from your mind leak out into the groundwater,
Speaker 1: big penalties. But um As pointed out that in two
Speaker 1: thousand six that was legislation to exempt people from prosecution
Speaker 1: who were actually trying to clean up their minds, Like
Speaker 1: I want to go clean up my mind, And we're
Speaker 1: gonna exempt you, uh, as long as you weren't the
Speaker 1: people who started the mind to begin with from I
Speaker 1: guess exempt from the Clean Water Act. Yes, from polluting
Speaker 1: because with tailings, a lot of a lot of cases. Um,
Speaker 1: just removing them is going to some's gonna slip into
Speaker 1: the watershed. And if it's from, say a uranium, mind,
Speaker 1: well does it's radioactive and your water is radioactive and
Speaker 1: you're in you have to pay a huge fine. Was
Speaker 1: it better to leave it? I wonder it's better to
Speaker 1: not get any into the water shed? Well, but can
Speaker 1: you clean it up without doing that? Yes? I feel
Speaker 1: like what the government has been doing. The Beer of
Speaker 1: Land Management does, and they have a division called the
Speaker 1: Abandoned mine Lands. Um, they basically just build a structure
Speaker 1: around it, kind of like what they did with Chernobyl,
Speaker 1: but on a much smaller scale, where it's basically like
Speaker 1: this is gonna stay here for a little while, we'll
Speaker 1: just put this around it until it's not radioactive anyway. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the impression I have what they're doing, at least
Speaker 1: with radioactive stuff. Well, that legislation did not pass though, No,
Speaker 1: it didn't, which seems like it would discourage people from
Speaker 1: trying to clean these things up, right, Yeah, But I
Speaker 1: also read testimony from UM this group called Earthworks, and
Speaker 1: they were lobbying against that loophole, saying it was overly broad.
Speaker 1: That basically like if you just picked up a little
Speaker 1: bit of litter or whatever, you were automatically exempt from
Speaker 1: the Clean Water Act, So it could be used to
Speaker 1: nefarious ends by a moral people. Well, you mentioned the
Speaker 1: abandoned mind Lands program under the Bureau of Land Management. UM.
Speaker 1: They get funding roughly in the neighborhood at twelve to
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year. And you know we said
Speaker 1: earlier it takes seventy billion to clean up I think
Speaker 1: just the hard rock site. So they're doing the best
Speaker 1: they can. UM. Over an eight year period, that cleaned
Speaker 1: up more than three thousand minds, which is awesome, but
Speaker 1: when you've got potentially five thousand out there, it's a
Speaker 1: little scared to think about. So to to remediate a mind,
Speaker 1: you have to address the physical stuff and the environmental stuff.
Speaker 1: You have to take care of the tailings piles. You
Speaker 1: have to um prevent any more acid groundwater from being produced.
Speaker 1: You have to disassemble and carry off any old machinery,
Speaker 1: any old buildings, maybe UM, and you have to cover
Speaker 1: up entrances. But covering up a mind shaft a glory
Speaker 1: hole as it's called in the industry, UM is not
Speaker 1: quite as cut and dry as you think. You just
Speaker 1: put a huge, heavy metal slab over it. The problem
Speaker 1: is is when you build a mind, in a lot
Speaker 1: of cases, you've disturbed bat population. When you UM abandoned
Speaker 1: the mind, you basically are leaving this bat population with
Speaker 1: a an awesome little place to live, a playground, if
Speaker 1: you will, exactly UM. Now, bats are really really essential
Speaker 1: to our comfort and happiness, and that the average bat
Speaker 1: can kill something like six mosquitoes an hour when it
Speaker 1: really wants to if it's feeling frisky, So we want
Speaker 1: to keep bats around. They're already being decimated by a
Speaker 1: white nose fungus, right. So people who are reclaiming abandoned
Speaker 1: mind have figured out that there's ways that you can
Speaker 1: keep humans out but let bats in and out, and
Speaker 1: so they put on like bat couple of us I'm
Speaker 1: vertical shafts, which is basically just like a little roof
Speaker 1: that has slats to let the bats fly in and out.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, And a bat gate is virtually the
Speaker 1: same thing, except it goes into like an addit bat gate.
Speaker 1: That couple of I think it's a great idea because
Speaker 1: then like, you're not gonna find a kid down in there. No,
Speaker 1: you're not disturbing the population of the bat unless the
Speaker 1: kid is the size of a bat. And even still,
Speaker 1: why is he not like bat boy? That's his problem? Well,
Speaker 1: bat Boy's fine. Um. So the E p A UH
Speaker 1: started something called the super fund UM, which basically means
Speaker 1: mining companies now paying too this uh huge bank account
Speaker 1: to cover costs of future cleanups. But that's not enough
Speaker 1: to meet the needs, so taxpayers end up paying for
Speaker 1: the discrepancies. Not don't mind my tax money going towards that.
Speaker 1: So apparently nowadays since UM, part of the abandoned mind
Speaker 1: Reclamation fund um is that if you're a mining company,
Speaker 1: you're putting in your paying a tax basically for every
Speaker 1: thirty one for every ton of surface coal that you
Speaker 1: mind and every ton of underground coal, you're paying um
Speaker 1: thirty one point five cents for surface coal and uh
Speaker 1: thirteen point five cents a ton for underground mind stuff,
Speaker 1: And all that goes into the super fund to reclaim it.
Speaker 1: That's not bad. Well this this our October, I think
Speaker 1: it's going to go down to twelve cents and twenty
Speaker 1: eight cents. Yeah. Um things times are tough all over
Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, they are. Um in n Josh, as
Speaker 1: you point out, the Department of Interior created an award
Speaker 1: for mining excellence. It's like the Yard of the Month
Speaker 1: for abandoned mond and reclamaining. I think it's called the
Speaker 1: Mining Award, and um, all joking aside, it's very cool
Speaker 1: that they do this because, um, a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: people are more responsible these days with their mining operations.
Speaker 1: They're not all bad. Mining is a vital thing. We're
Speaker 1: not trying to poop poo that. And then we did
Speaker 1: like with the mountaintop removal, coal mining came down pretty hard.
Speaker 1: But um, a lot of miners these days are pretty
Speaker 1: responsible and they are reclaiming this land and uh going
Speaker 1: back in and planning vegetation and trying to preserve old
Speaker 1: buildings and make those into live work space condos exactly
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Yeah, So that's great. Yeah, keep it up,
Speaker 1: is what I say. I agree, and be careful out there.
Speaker 1: A TV people in rot Corey swimmers. Yeah. There. Um,
Speaker 1: if you see a mind, stay away. I believe that's
Speaker 1: the name of the program. Yeah, stay away. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: like you know those cartoony posters with exclamation points and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. UM P S A S that's what
Speaker 1: they're called. Uh. I think if you do see your mind,
Speaker 1: go on the Internet and look up reporting abandoned minds
Speaker 1: and you will find a way to do it, and
Speaker 1: that will be helpful. You'll save some money, save some
Speaker 1: taxpayer money if you report a mind yourself agreed. Uh.
Speaker 1: If you want to know more about abandoned minds and
Speaker 1: reclamation and all that stuff, you can type it into
Speaker 1: the search bar at how stuff works dot com. And
Speaker 1: I said, search bars means it's time for that's right, Josh.
Speaker 1: This closes out the trilogy. I'll go and start out
Speaker 1: with Donna Fessler. My husband always wants to call my
Speaker 1: beet vegetable soup as stew, but it is broth based.
Speaker 1: I don't argue. Um, And basically she's asking about this.
Speaker 1: My recommendation Donna is to go check out the podcast
Speaker 1: Judge John Hodge, because he has a full podcast on
Speaker 1: I believe Chili chili's chowlders, stews and soups and the
Speaker 1: differences right, the first one. It was pretty early on.
Speaker 1: Judge John will break it all down for you. Nice plug, Chuck,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ryan Taylor. Question, what time is it a hammertime?
Speaker 1: Be time to make the donuts or see ber o'clock
Speaker 1: time to make the donuts? Beer o'clock? We've got from
Speaker 1: Jeremy Glover. Did either of you grow up watching Andy
Speaker 1: Griffith's show? I think he means the Andy Griffiths Show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I certainly did. I did too, and reruns. Is there
Speaker 1: anybody yes? Same here? Is there anybody who is alive today?
Speaker 1: They didn't grow up watching yet? Yeah? Well he's asking
Speaker 1: that because Andy Griffith died today. Oh really Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I still alive he was till today. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's well. He had quite a run. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was eighty six years old. Good full life, as as
Speaker 1: Sheriff Andy Taylor, Mattlock and uh was that it? Those
Speaker 1: there's two big characters. Didn't you have a third? Those
Speaker 1: were the two big ones. Does any like the Landlord
Speaker 1: and threes company for a little while? No, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Tanya Chob is it is my anniversary? Can
Speaker 1: you do a quick shout out to my very patient husband,
Speaker 1: Abe Franklin. It would be a fun surprise, all right, Tania,
Speaker 1: I guess Tania, Happy anniversary to you and Abe. Happy
Speaker 1: anniversary Tanya and Abe. Oh here's a good one, Brandon Nichols,
Speaker 1: Who would you most like to punch in the face?
Speaker 1: That's sort of like the fight club question? Who would
Speaker 1: you fight? Who would I most like to punch in
Speaker 1: the face? Would it be a good one? I think
Speaker 1: myself many times. Yeah, that's very much like fight club.
Speaker 1: Actually I got someone else, but I can't say I
Speaker 1: think you know who it is. Oh yeah, like a
Speaker 1: punch him in the face. Yeah, you got anyone. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying anything that's anything. So that was kind of
Speaker 1: a cop out. Uh. Vitality says, would you rather fight
Speaker 1: one hundred duck sized horses or one horsed sized duck?
Speaker 1: I love these questions one horse sized duck. I don't
Speaker 1: go for the one horse sized duck because you get
Speaker 1: like a sharpened stick in its neck. It's over and
Speaker 1: done with. It's kind of like that um garage full
Speaker 1: of guided missiles up in space. Yeah, you take one
Speaker 1: out you take ten out. If you've got like a
Speaker 1: hundred duck sized horses coming at you, they're going to
Speaker 1: get the best of you. Yeah. Plus, that's just creepy, man.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a hundred like one ft tall horses
Speaker 1: coming after you? I find the horse sized duck creepier.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind that. That's some good eating too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh Mica Mia Mia Mea. Paul Cannell says, Howe Maya
Speaker 1: Maya says, how is Atlanta really quality of life? Would
Speaker 1: you recommend it? I would? I love Atlanta. I'm from
Speaker 1: here and I moved back here for a reason. Josh,
Speaker 1: do you like Atlanta? Sure? Lands great? Atlanta's great? Robert Casey?
Speaker 1: Is Jerry as smoking hot as we think she is?
Speaker 1: And more? My friend? That's all I'm gonna say about that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten a threatening uh listener mail from
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Yeager? No? Nothing threatening? Really like physically threatening? Um?
Speaker 1: Uh no? Menacing? How about that? I've gotten a couple
Speaker 1: of little crazy ones, but that never menacing? Care to share? No, Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to send anybody off? How about one more? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see. Um, why is Cilantro so divisive? From Heidi Wells.
Speaker 1: Good question, Heidi, Well, that is a good one. Cilantro,
Speaker 1: the herb also known as coriander or um Chinese salary,
Speaker 1: I believe in some quarters for yeah, um, that's pretty good,
Speaker 1: thank you. Uh is divisive because it strikes different people's
Speaker 1: tongues differently. It's really big time, right. Some people, cilantro
Speaker 1: is a glorious herb, including me and me I love
Speaker 1: cilantro me too. To other people, it tastes very much
Speaker 1: like soap. Yeah, my friend says that. And there is actually,
Speaker 1: if you're interested, a video on web md that addresses
Speaker 1: this question. And if you watch very closely, the filmmaker,
Speaker 1: who is a friend of mine who I know through Humi,
Speaker 1: put in a moment where he takes a thing of
Speaker 1: Paul malive and puts it over a taco. And it
Speaker 1: happens just for a second, but it's pretty brilliant. Want
Speaker 1: to it was just funny. Look at Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: did you just put soap on a taco? Yeah? There
Speaker 1: you go. Well, here's what I have to say. I
Speaker 1: feel sorry for people who have that taste reaction because
Speaker 1: cilantro to me is one of the great great things.
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