1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to you stuff you should 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: know from house Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Damn, 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: that makes it sound fish And um, I just had 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: some of my notes mixed up, like criminal records was 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: stuffed in the middle of this one, Like wouldn't that 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: be funny if I was talking about abandoned mines? And 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: then just like a robot, it was like, and if 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: you have a d U I you can call your 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: local police shop and get that expunged. Yeah, I think 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: that's bad advice. Well, now I'm just saying, do you 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: not ever call the police unless it's an emergency. You're right, Chuck? Yes, Um, 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Three today? Huh yeah, day 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: before holiday even in fact, the office is closed right 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: now and we're still working. It's like crickets outside and 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: someone threw a spear at me when I stuck my 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: head out to go to the bathroom. Good that was 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: his assignment. So Chuck, if I may take it down 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: a notcher. Two? Have you ever heard of a guy 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: named Taylor Crane, a kid. Taylor as a kid who 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: was sixteen years old when he died. He was on 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: a tour of Mexico UM with his parents New Mexico 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: and mex Mexico, Mexico Old Mexico UM. And he was 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: on a tour I didn't realize he's existed UM but 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: a of abandoned haciendas and mines. So it's basically like 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: an urban exploration tour of old Mexico UM. And they 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: were at an old mind site the tour group was 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: and Taylor was apparently playing tag and um jumped up 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: on a low wall and apparently on the other side 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: of that was a thousand foot mine shaft which he 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: fell into a ten ft cross jess wide open a 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: thousand feet down. They had a lot of trouble getting 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: to them to recover him because there's so much lead 35 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: and arsenic at the bottom that it was really difficult 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: to breathe to get down there to get them. So 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: you think, like, wow, it's really crazy that Mexico has 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: these open minds. Mind blowing as it is, Mexico is 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: not the only place. As a matter of fact, here 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: in the States we have something on the scale of 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand abandoned minds. That's the high end, but 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: the low end even is still I think like three 43 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: hundred thousand abandoned minds. Abandoned minds probably two of the 44 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: most dangerous words you can put together, and they're all 45 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: over the place. The US is lousy with them. Yeah, 46 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: and about thirty people die in the United States every 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: year from accidents involving abandoned minds. And did a little looking. Yeah, 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: apparently they include uh, quarries, and most of these are drownings. Um, 49 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: because the quarry either has water or an abandoned mind shaft. 50 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, they'll pump out water to work in it, 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and then when they're done, it fills back up with water. 52 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: So uh, some say, crazy scuba divers, we'll try and 53 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: scuba dive these things. My dad was actually certified in 54 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: an old marble quarry in Tlita, and to be certified 55 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: you had to go down to a school bus at 56 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of this quarry. Um, you had to dive 57 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: down to go into the school bus and grab something 58 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: from it. It was like right inside, and then bring 59 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: it back up. Then they'd be like, Okay, you're certifying 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: your dad did. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I'm trying to 61 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: picture that. I can't imagine anything more creepy than having 62 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: to go into a school bus at the bottom of 63 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: a filled quarry. No, I'm just trying to picture your 64 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: dad like all you know, scuba diving and adventure, a 65 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: buzz cut and more like a big watch and everything. Yeah, 66 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: he was. I guess anytime you're older and you meet 67 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: someone father when they're a little older, it's hard to 68 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: imagine them as young because I didn't know him back then, 69 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: But I picture him on the couch. Oh no, uh no, 70 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: he was. He carried a spear gun everywhere he went 71 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: with him. Really, that's awesome. Alright, So, um, sadly, like 72 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I said, about thirty people die each year, many of 73 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: them are drownings. I think number two on the list 74 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: as a TV accidents, which doesn't surprise me because tool 75 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: along in the a TV on some you know, random 76 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: thinking You're in the middle of nowhere place and all 77 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden the bottom falls out. Literally. Um yeah, 78 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: those were the top two far and away that I 79 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: came across too. But since two thousand one, apparently two 80 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: seven people have died in the United States because of 81 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: accidents involving abandoned minds. I saw one in two thousand 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: and eight. These two guys were uh, trying to get 83 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: a former gold mine going again because they thought there 84 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: was still gold down there, and they were pumping out 85 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: water with a some sort of machine with a generator, 86 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: and they died of carbon monoxide poisoning. Yeah, that's that's 87 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: another one. I think it's way down on the list. 88 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: It's like a distant third, but but I think it's 89 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: it's um being overcome unable to breathe, asphyxiation, that's the 90 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: word I'm looking for, by bringing in your own thing, 91 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: or just by the toxic chemicals down there, toxic chemicals 92 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: or um, carbon monoxide or oxygen depletion in general from 93 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: people either trying to get old ones started up or yeah, 94 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: more likely adventuring. Yeah, abandoned mind Let's go ahead and 95 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: give a tip to people because we like to encourage 96 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: the urban explorers, which you know we've done a podcast 97 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: on that. But man, you don't need to be hanging 98 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: around abandoned minds. No, they're very, very dangerous. Yes, I 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: mean that's just so mind bogglingly dangerous. Just resist the urge, 100 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: and I like, I have that urge too, because I 101 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: love the urban exploration. If I saw a whole the ground, 102 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: I would want to go check it out. But it's 103 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: not a good place to be, not a good thing 104 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: to do. So what's crazy is we said, like, up 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: to five hundred thousand abandoned minds and these are just 106 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: the minds, not mine features. So say, every mine has 107 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: several mind features. Say and at it, which is a 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: vertical shaft or I'm sorry, a horizontal shaft. Um, And 109 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: you've got a vertical shaft like the one that um, 110 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: poor Taylor Crane fell into. Um, you have all these 111 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: different mind features on up to five hundred thousand minds. 112 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is is as of February two 113 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: thousand eleven, the Bureau of Land Management, which is tasked 114 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: with finding these abandoned minds, has only found about thirty 115 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: one thousand of them. That means that there's possibly four 116 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine thousand abandoned minds in the United 117 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: States that no one has on any map. True, but 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: like on on the good side, they're trying to find them. Now. 119 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, they only had eighteen thousand 120 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: of them, so in spanned three years they found another 121 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: uh thousand, I had twelve thousand and two thousand and eight. 122 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Well even better than um. And I think of those 123 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: have been remediated, have pending reclamation, or they say aren't 124 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: a danger. They say, so, Um, that's just the physical dangerous. Yeah, 125 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: there's two kinds. There's physical dangers and environmental dangers. And 126 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: I think and I guess it's of the ones they 127 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: found they said to have physical hazards and five have 128 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: environmental hazards, which you know, it's not a ton but 129 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: is pretty dangerous. Well, a physical hazard is insidious for 130 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: the local just the local people who are walking around 131 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: it sure like falling in, yeah, or maybe caving in. 132 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, I found out that any mine 133 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: feature that is like a hole in the ground, or 134 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: even like if there's a depression in the ground because 135 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: a mine collapse, some they're called glory holes. Did you 136 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: know that? That was almost a fit take, wasn't it? 137 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: That's not true? I s where to God it is. Wow, 138 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: I saw a sign today of an abandoned mind called 139 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: the glory whole mind. Well that's that's quite a name. Yeah, 140 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: good for them. Uh mind tailings you talk about, and 141 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: this is some of the environmental hazards, and these can 142 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: actually be physical hazards too if you're living nearby. These 143 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: are the remnants of what was going on there of 144 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: the mineral, and often it can be very toxic and 145 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: then that can either be harmful to you or it 146 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: can run off into the water and be harmful to people, 147 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, downriver. That was my point is things like um, 148 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: like add its and other mind features. UM, they're dangerous 149 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: if you're walking around the mine. Environmental hazards of a 150 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: mind can be very far reaching because in very much 151 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: the same way that ascid rain is produced from like 152 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: smoke stacks, these mines can produce acid rain UM, and 153 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: they can also produce acid groundwater. When sulfide sulfide minerals 154 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: and oxygen combined with water, it produces acidic groundwater that 155 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: can pollute an entire water system downstream and then also chuck. 156 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: There's mercury tailings or a big problem, especially with gold mines. 157 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: So you know, like if you take mercury and take 158 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: gold and put them together, mercury absorbs the gold and 159 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: you get a rainbow, right, a deadly rainbow. Uh, and 160 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: it makes what's called an amalgam. And then later on 161 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: so you have like you can take a little gold 162 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: flex or whatever, and now they're like highly portable, stable 163 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: little things of mercury. And then you take them somewhere 164 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: else and you can burn the mercury off and the 165 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: mercury will vaporize and just the gold is left. Well, 166 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: the problem is that mercury then immediately contaminates wherever you 167 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: just burned it off, and there's the atmosphere and everything. 168 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: But those kind of hailings are especially problematic, and old 169 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: gold mines too. And does that end up in gold 170 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Schlager bottles? Probably is that where they get it? I 171 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I hope they're not putting formerly mercury gold 172 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: and Malcolm in the gold schlag No, the people that 173 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: gold Slager wouldn't do that. So, Josh, if this is 174 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: such a problem, why wouldn't these companies clean up their 175 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: mind sites. It seems like a no brainer to me. 176 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: You're there, you do the work, you close it down, 177 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: you clean it up, make sure it's safe for everybody. 178 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: That's how you do it now. Yes, supposedly, Uh, it 179 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: was not the case until ninety seven. For about two years. 180 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: People mind UM even more than that, people mind in 181 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: the United States willingly however they wanted, and they would 182 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: they would say, well, this mind's used up. I don't 183 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: need it any longer. I'm walking away. Well, the quick 184 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: answer to my question answer now is money. That's the 185 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: real reason, because it's really expensive to clean up your 186 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: mind site. If you're a mining operation and you can 187 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: free what you can just fold up shop and leave. 188 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Why would you spend money to clean it up? If 189 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: you were a company without me like an ethical compass 190 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: and a moral compass, because you know it's gonna hit 191 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: your bottom line, so screw it, let's just leave it. 192 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: You know, I can't help but feel like you set 193 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: me up by asking me that question and expecting the 194 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: short answer, because I've never given a short answer. Well, 195 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: that is a short answer. UM two thousand and six 196 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: congressional testimony said it would cost seventy two billion dollars 197 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: to clean up only the hard rock minds like at 198 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: the hard rock cafes. Right, seventy two billion dollars. Well, 199 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management, which we said is UM 200 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: responsible for finding these minds and for reclaiming them. Basically, Um, 201 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: they divide minds that they have to deal with in 202 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: the three categories. There's hard rock, which is like gold, silver, 203 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: mineral iron maybe yeah, I don't think they deal with 204 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: iron um. And then there's coal mines, and then uranium mines. 205 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Got it. Well, I saw on the East coast they 206 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: had a map of where a lot of these abandoned 207 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: mines are, and there's a lot of them on the 208 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: East coast, and there were I think a lot of 209 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: the coal mines. Oh yeah, Like there's Centrally of Pennsylvania, 210 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: which we talked about before, is an abandoned town with 211 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: the coal steam burning underneath. Oh yeah, that's right. Creepy. Um. 212 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: So they abandoned the mines over time, land records and 213 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: lease records were lost, basically taking a reverse foreclosure. Yeah, 214 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: pretty much. And so in the end, like no one's 215 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: on the hook. No one knows many times who these 216 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: mines originally, like who was responsible over this to begin with? 217 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: And even if they do know the mine or its 218 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: gonna be like the do you have documentation that's there 219 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: on that mine? And the government goes no, and the 220 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: mine owners says see you or the other little loophole 221 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: wrote this right that you pointed out, which was if 222 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: you have gone through bankruptcy, then you can't be held liable. 223 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: That is no longer true. Oh is that not true? Yeah? Yeah, 224 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I was happy to find that there's there's You now 225 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: have to post a bond basically as a mining company 226 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: from what I understand from research I did very recently, 227 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: that you have to post a bond kind of like 228 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: a fidelity bond. That is money you pay in upfront 229 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: that you get back if your mining operations successfully reclaims 230 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: the land. If you don't reclaim it, if reclamation isn't 231 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: like the end of your um mind, or you go bankrupt, 232 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: that money is still there to pay for reclamation. So 233 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: you canna correct the article. I think I should. I 234 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: think you should. People need to know that. UM here's 235 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: a little thing too called the Clean Water Act, which 236 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: um obviously you're going to be violating that if you're 237 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: letting your toxins from your mind leak out into the groundwater, 238 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: big penalties. But um As pointed out that in two 239 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: thousand six that was legislation to exempt people from prosecution 240 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: who were actually trying to clean up their minds, Like 241 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: I want to go clean up my mind, And we're 242 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: gonna exempt you, uh, as long as you weren't the 243 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: people who started the mind to begin with from I 244 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: guess exempt from the Clean Water Act. Yes, from polluting 245 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: because with tailings, a lot of a lot of cases. Um, 246 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: just removing them is going to some's gonna slip into 247 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: the watershed. And if it's from, say a uranium, mind, 248 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: well does it's radioactive and your water is radioactive and 249 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: you're in you have to pay a huge fine. Was 250 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: it better to leave it? I wonder it's better to 251 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: not get any into the water shed? Well, but can 252 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: you clean it up without doing that? Yes? I feel 253 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: like what the government has been doing. The Beer of 254 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Land Management does, and they have a division called the 255 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: Abandoned mine Lands. Um, they basically just build a structure 256 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: around it, kind of like what they did with Chernobyl, 257 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: but on a much smaller scale, where it's basically like 258 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna stay here for a little while, we'll 259 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: just put this around it until it's not radioactive anyway. Okay, 260 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: that's the impression I have what they're doing, at least 261 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: with radioactive stuff. Well, that legislation did not pass though, No, 262 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: it didn't, which seems like it would discourage people from 263 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: trying to clean these things up, right, Yeah, But I 264 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: also read testimony from UM this group called Earthworks, and 265 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: they were lobbying against that loophole, saying it was overly broad. 266 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: That basically like if you just picked up a little 267 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: bit of litter or whatever, you were automatically exempt from 268 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: the Clean Water Act, So it could be used to 269 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: nefarious ends by a moral people. Well, you mentioned the 270 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: abandoned mind Lands program under the Bureau of Land Management. UM. 271 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: They get funding roughly in the neighborhood at twelve to 272 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year. And you know we said 273 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: earlier it takes seventy billion to clean up I think 274 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: just the hard rock site. So they're doing the best 275 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: they can. UM. Over an eight year period, that cleaned 276 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: up more than three thousand minds, which is awesome, but 277 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: when you've got potentially five thousand out there, it's a 278 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: little scared to think about. So to to remediate a mind, 279 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: you have to address the physical stuff and the environmental stuff. 280 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: You have to take care of the tailings piles. You 281 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: have to um prevent any more acid groundwater from being produced. 282 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: You have to disassemble and carry off any old machinery, 283 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: any old buildings, maybe UM, and you have to cover 284 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: up entrances. But covering up a mind shaft a glory 285 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: hole as it's called in the industry, UM is not 286 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: quite as cut and dry as you think. You just 287 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: put a huge, heavy metal slab over it. The problem 288 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: is is when you build a mind, in a lot 289 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: of cases, you've disturbed bat population. When you UM abandoned 290 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: the mind, you basically are leaving this bat population with 291 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: a an awesome little place to live, a playground, if 292 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: you will, exactly UM. Now, bats are really really essential 293 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: to our comfort and happiness, and that the average bat 294 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: can kill something like six mosquitoes an hour when it 295 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: really wants to if it's feeling frisky, So we want 296 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: to keep bats around. They're already being decimated by a 297 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: white nose fungus, right. So people who are reclaiming abandoned 298 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: mind have figured out that there's ways that you can 299 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: keep humans out but let bats in and out, and 300 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: so they put on like bat couple of us I'm 301 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: vertical shafts, which is basically just like a little roof 302 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: that has slats to let the bats fly in and out. 303 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: That makes sense, And a bat gate is virtually the 304 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: same thing, except it goes into like an addit bat gate. 305 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: That couple of I think it's a great idea because 306 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: then like, you're not gonna find a kid down in there. No, 307 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: you're not disturbing the population of the bat unless the 308 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: kid is the size of a bat. And even still, 309 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: why is he not like bat boy? That's his problem? Well, 310 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: bat Boy's fine. Um. So the E p A UH 311 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: started something called the super fund UM, which basically means 312 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: mining companies now paying too this uh huge bank account 313 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: to cover costs of future cleanups. But that's not enough 314 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: to meet the needs, so taxpayers end up paying for 315 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: the discrepancies. Not don't mind my tax money going towards that. 316 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: So apparently nowadays since UM, part of the abandoned mind 317 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Reclamation fund um is that if you're a mining company, 318 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: you're putting in your paying a tax basically for every 319 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: thirty one for every ton of surface coal that you 320 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: mind and every ton of underground coal, you're paying um 321 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: thirty one point five cents for surface coal and uh 322 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: thirteen point five cents a ton for underground mind stuff, 323 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: And all that goes into the super fund to reclaim it. 324 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: That's not bad. Well this this our October, I think 325 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: it's going to go down to twelve cents and twenty 326 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: eight cents. Yeah. Um things times are tough all over 327 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, they are. Um in n Josh, as 328 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: you point out, the Department of Interior created an award 329 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: for mining excellence. It's like the Yard of the Month 330 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: for abandoned mond and reclamaining. I think it's called the 331 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Mining Award, and um, all joking aside, it's very cool 332 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: that they do this because, um, a lot of you know, 333 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: people are more responsible these days with their mining operations. 334 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: They're not all bad. Mining is a vital thing. We're 335 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: not trying to poop poo that. And then we did 336 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: like with the mountaintop removal, coal mining came down pretty hard. 337 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: But um, a lot of miners these days are pretty 338 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: responsible and they are reclaiming this land and uh going 339 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: back in and planning vegetation and trying to preserve old 340 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: buildings and make those into live work space condos exactly 341 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Yeah, So that's great. Yeah, keep it up, 342 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: is what I say. I agree, and be careful out there. 343 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: A TV people in rot Corey swimmers. Yeah. There. Um, 344 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: if you see a mind, stay away. I believe that's 345 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: the name of the program. Yeah, stay away. Yeah. It's 346 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: like you know those cartoony posters with exclamation points and 347 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: stuff like that. UM P S A S that's what 348 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: they're called. Uh. I think if you do see your mind, 349 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: go on the Internet and look up reporting abandoned minds 350 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: and you will find a way to do it, and 351 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: that will be helpful. You'll save some money, save some 352 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: taxpayer money if you report a mind yourself agreed. Uh. 353 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: If you want to know more about abandoned minds and 354 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: reclamation and all that stuff, you can type it into 355 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: the search bar at how stuff works dot com. And 356 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: I said, search bars means it's time for that's right, Josh. 357 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: This closes out the trilogy. I'll go and start out 358 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: with Donna Fessler. My husband always wants to call my 359 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: beet vegetable soup as stew, but it is broth based. 360 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: I don't argue. Um, And basically she's asking about this. 361 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: My recommendation Donna is to go check out the podcast 362 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: Judge John Hodge, because he has a full podcast on 363 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: I believe Chili chili's chowlders, stews and soups and the 364 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: differences right, the first one. It was pretty early on. 365 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Judge John will break it all down for you. Nice plug, Chuck, 366 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Ryan Taylor. Question, what time is it a hammertime? 367 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: Be time to make the donuts or see ber o'clock 368 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: time to make the donuts? Beer o'clock? We've got from 369 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: Jeremy Glover. Did either of you grow up watching Andy 370 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: Griffith's show? I think he means the Andy Griffiths Show. Yeah, 371 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: I certainly did. I did too, and reruns. Is there 372 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: anybody yes? Same here? Is there anybody who is alive today? 373 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: They didn't grow up watching yet? Yeah? Well he's asking 374 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: that because Andy Griffith died today. Oh really Yeah, I 375 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: didn't know. I still alive he was till today. Wow, 376 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: that's that's well. He had quite a run. Yeah, he 377 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: was eighty six years old. Good full life, as as 378 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Sheriff Andy Taylor, Mattlock and uh was that it? Those 379 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: there's two big characters. Didn't you have a third? Those 380 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: were the two big ones. Does any like the Landlord 381 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: and threes company for a little while? No, I don't 382 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: think so. Tanya Chob is it is my anniversary? Can 383 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: you do a quick shout out to my very patient husband, 384 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: Abe Franklin. It would be a fun surprise, all right, Tania, 385 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: I guess Tania, Happy anniversary to you and Abe. Happy 386 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: anniversary Tanya and Abe. Oh here's a good one, Brandon Nichols, 387 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Who would you most like to punch in the face? 388 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: That's sort of like the fight club question? Who would 389 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: you fight? Who would I most like to punch in 390 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: the face? Would it be a good one? I think 391 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: myself many times. Yeah, that's very much like fight club. 392 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Actually I got someone else, but I can't say I 393 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: think you know who it is. Oh yeah, like a 394 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: punch him in the face. Yeah, you got anyone. I'm 395 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: not saying anything that's anything. So that was kind of 396 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: a cop out. Uh. Vitality says, would you rather fight 397 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: one hundred duck sized horses or one horsed sized duck? 398 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: I love these questions one horse sized duck. I don't 399 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: go for the one horse sized duck because you get 400 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: like a sharpened stick in its neck. It's over and 401 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: done with. It's kind of like that um garage full 402 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: of guided missiles up in space. Yeah, you take one 403 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: out you take ten out. If you've got like a 404 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: hundred duck sized horses coming at you, they're going to 405 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: get the best of you. Yeah. Plus, that's just creepy, man. 406 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: Can you imagine a hundred like one ft tall horses 407 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: coming after you? I find the horse sized duck creepier. 408 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind that. That's some good eating too. Yeah. 409 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Uh Mica Mia Mia Mea. Paul Cannell says, Howe Maya 410 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: Maya says, how is Atlanta really quality of life? Would 411 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: you recommend it? I would? I love Atlanta. I'm from 412 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: here and I moved back here for a reason. Josh, 413 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: do you like Atlanta? Sure? Lands great? Atlanta's great? Robert Casey? 414 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: Is Jerry as smoking hot as we think she is? 415 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: And more? My friend? That's all I'm gonna say about that. 416 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten a threatening uh listener mail from 417 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Yeager? No? Nothing threatening? Really like physically threatening? Um? 418 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: Uh no? Menacing? How about that? I've gotten a couple 419 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: of little crazy ones, but that never menacing? Care to share? No, Okay, 420 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: I want to send anybody off? How about one more? Okay, 421 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: let's see. Um, why is Cilantro so divisive? From Heidi Wells. 422 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: Good question, Heidi, Well, that is a good one. Cilantro, 423 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: the herb also known as coriander or um Chinese salary, 424 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: I believe in some quarters for yeah, um, that's pretty good, 425 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Uh is divisive because it strikes different people's 426 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: tongues differently. It's really big time, right. Some people, cilantro 427 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: is a glorious herb, including me and me I love 428 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: cilantro me too. To other people, it tastes very much 429 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: like soap. Yeah, my friend says that. And there is actually, 430 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: if you're interested, a video on web md that addresses 431 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: this question. And if you watch very closely, the filmmaker, 432 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: who is a friend of mine who I know through Humi, 433 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: put in a moment where he takes a thing of 434 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Paul malive and puts it over a taco. And it 435 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: happens just for a second, but it's pretty brilliant. Want 436 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: to it was just funny. Look at Yeah, it's like, 437 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: did you just put soap on a taco? Yeah? There 438 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: you go. Well, here's what I have to say. I 439 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: feel sorry for people who have that taste reaction because 440 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: cilantro to me is one of the great great things. 441 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: And uh, food and some drinks. Yes, I put a 442 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: little cilantro and margarite is from time to time so good. 443 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: It's really nice. And a couple of slices of halapeno. Yeah, 444 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: all right, I'm hungry, thirsty, I am too, man, let's 445 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: good some guacamole. Uh. If you have questions for Chuck 446 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: and I, you can tweet to us at s y 447 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: ESK podcast. You can join us on Facebook dot com 448 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: slash stuff you Should Know, or you can send us 449 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: an email to Stuff Podcast at Discovery dot com. For 450 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: more on this and thousands of other topics. 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